How’s Kate going to just disregard Toby having a heart attack at a young age, and take HIM exercising as an attack on HER? That is really toxic, like be happy for him. Hell, work out with him. She’s just so negative for no reason
@birdiewolf3497
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. She is making it about her, when he already had a heart attack and he doesn't want to drop dead because of heart disease. Kate for the most part does not have that concern. It isn't right for her to be upset about her husband doing what he can to avoid another heartattack.
@rebeccaelliott9770
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your points. But Kate just doesn’t have the maturity or self esteem to cope with this. It’s triggering for her to see him get fit as in contrast she feels lazy, lacking discipline etc. Him getting fit brings to the surface all her own unhappiness with her weight. I feel for both of them tbh. It’s great writing
@belgiumgirl8970
5 жыл бұрын
Shalia Campbell Totally agree she’s so negative about how she looks, And instead of encouraging him and working out with him she’s just getting bigger and bigger- I mean on the show as well as off-the-show. And her cheeks are so red, makes me believe that her blood pressure must be really sky high. I’m just afraid she’s not gonna live a long full life unless she starts doing some serious weight loss.
@chand911
5 жыл бұрын
Well...not for NO reason. They kind of made a show about why she's negative. You should check it out, airs Tuesday nights at 9pm.
@drae408
5 жыл бұрын
she should have jump on him like Lois did to Peter in family guy LOL
@latisha334
5 жыл бұрын
Toby being afraid to tell Kate about the gym shows how toxic their relationship is
@kathconserv
5 жыл бұрын
La Tisha Kate is the problem.
@madinatuleshova6292
5 жыл бұрын
Because he knows how insecure she is and did not want to upset her. Toby is very very sweet and hates to make Kate sad. Kate is the problem. She is always a downer, and has negative opinions about EVERYTHING. Can't she just chill and see that her husband who has been through depression, heart attack at a young age and stress of being a parent too, needs his way of finding relief? He is taking care of his health and doing better. She should be happy for him. If she is this upset, she is the toxic element in their relationship.
@latisha334
5 жыл бұрын
Madina Tuleshova Her reaction definitely shows her insecurity. She’ always so self-conscious...it actually seems like she’s only fully comfortable when she’s with Kevin (not Toby) which is weird. It might be why we never see her interact with Randall’s family, Beth screams confidence.
@aliceshannon5246
5 жыл бұрын
you all seem to forget that every time kate tried to get serious about losing weight, toby kept sabotaging her. not saying it's healthy. just saying he has some responsibility too.
@BriaBarrows
4 жыл бұрын
Latisha she needs to go to the gym too and stop blaming other people for her problems
@Sandylee00214
5 жыл бұрын
Okay, woah...! Toby has a history with depression. And he just had a heart attack, which can trigger depression. Now he's actively doing something to feel better and get healthier, instead of crashing mentally. Because he's determined to be there for his son for as long as possible. And THIS is Kate's reaction, instead of encouraging and supporting him? Her reaction clearly shows why Toby was so hesitant to tell her. I'm baffled (NOT in a good way), and I feel so sorry for Toby! Trying to hide that he's healthier and looking better... That's so sad! :,(
@nineteen96
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting mad that your husband wants to be healthy for his son. Couldn't be me
@BiancaSaphira
4 жыл бұрын
I hate Kate. She's always complaining and blame everyone for her problems. Toby is too good for her.
@kathconserv
4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@misspriss2482
3 жыл бұрын
She's jealous.
@richarddamico5639
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Even as a young girl she was lost…saw no future for herself and here we are much later and she’s still lost and drags everyone around her down.
@DreadWolf3000
10 ай бұрын
I think they was toxic for each other. Toby was great at the beginning, he did everything for her. But I think down the line it wore him down and he began demanding Kate to subside her happiness for him for example when she took the teaching job, allowing a woman he was in a crossfit group with allow to get in their relationship (though he quicky stopped it when she tried to kiss him), belitting Kate when she was trying to help him with their kids and wanting Kate and his family to move to a new city away from their support network. Towards the end I only saw Toby going "me, me, me" much like Kate was at the beginning of their relationship whereas I saw Kate maturing, it seems like one of them was always at a loss when the other one was thriving.
@jaynehogue2459
2 жыл бұрын
That's the kind of person Kate is extremely narcissistic. Instead of learning from him she gets jealous and makes it his fault. They say the acting is good when you hate the character
@nexusBOS
5 жыл бұрын
She's severely insecure about everything in her life. "Inner work needed, aisle Kate"
@BriaBarrows
4 жыл бұрын
Kate needs to grow up and take responsibility for her life. He’s working out and taking care of himself. So kate wants Toby to be fat because she is? Makes no sense.
@anuskawebster
4 жыл бұрын
She disregarded his whole reasoning and instead injected her insecurties..
@nostalgicgirrl6053
2 жыл бұрын
When you can’t tell your partner something as trivial as the fact that you’re going to the gym to get healthy after a frickin heart attack?? - that’s when you know that your partners fatness and other issues have taken over the relationship, and that it is no more worth staying in.
@mikes252
3 жыл бұрын
Kate is the poster child for fat acceptance in this show , nobody should be that morbidly obese, Toby almost died to a heart attack and has a child, that is the motivation he needs to get heathier, she stays that way by choice
@codyhiginbotham6616
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: For the first three seasons, Chris Sullivan wore a fat suit. So basically, this is what he really looks like (without the suit)
@dylankrejci9965
2 жыл бұрын
So “going to the gym” was really just spending his lunch break taking off a fat suit
@domtube4783
Жыл бұрын
wait REALLY???
@codyhiginbotham6616
Жыл бұрын
@@domtube4783 Yep
@ricardoortiz4870
Жыл бұрын
Did you also know that he also played Taserface in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2?
@codyhiginbotham6616
Жыл бұрын
@@ricardoortiz4870 Yep Practically unrecognizable
@antwongadison3799
2 жыл бұрын
This woman is exhausting how you gone be mad that your husband goes to the gym and taking care of himself. He had a heart attack at the age of 38. Wow this is stupid 🤣😂
@Cassidyscorner2
5 жыл бұрын
Omg I hate Kate's character, she's honestly the reason I stopped watching the show.
@coreyblake8468
5 жыл бұрын
cassidy burchat exactly the same here. It’s such a toxic relationship, and it has very little to do with her weight and all with her attitude.
@Selenee77
4 жыл бұрын
Me too I can’t stand her attitude with her mother and Tony.
@Trump156
4 жыл бұрын
But the acting is nice by the way
@freebandz4332
2 жыл бұрын
Why would you stop watching a show just because you don’t like one character?
@cwp4eva
2 жыл бұрын
This was the beginning of the end
@smithsj227
4 жыл бұрын
Toby deserves so much better.
@shandiwilles7604
4 жыл бұрын
She always finds a way to make it all about her. 🙄
@BriaBarrows
4 жыл бұрын
Shandi Willes facts
@kathconserv
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@kathconserv
3 жыл бұрын
Always.
@JohnSacapano
3 жыл бұрын
The twins have narcissistic tendencies 🤷🏽♀️ It’s why Rebecca had an easier time loving Randall, because Randall isn’t selfish. He wants people to be happy. Meanwhile both Kevin and Kate seem to think the universe revolves around them, or it should.
@sibanipanigrahy5509
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSacapano well randall's no exception as such. I mean he comes across as this put together guy. But if u see his fights with beth, he can be pretty selfish sometime too. I think most unselfish is kevin. Theya ll have their issues.
@coreyblake8468
5 жыл бұрын
Grow up, Kate.
@romisingh471
5 жыл бұрын
I just realised.... Half of their problems can be solved if they both just go to gym 😎
@ganeshraj769
2 жыл бұрын
Says a thin person who never hit the gym herself
@honinakecheta601
2 жыл бұрын
They’d probably have a better relationship if they did those kinds of things lol
@hunterlaing18
9 ай бұрын
He deserved better and in so glad he ended up getting better.
@LalienX
21 күн бұрын
His new wife was hot
@dejagerfam2779
2 жыл бұрын
He had a heart attack and she’s still mad that he lost weight?
@drae408
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about family guy when he took off is shirt and was thinking she was going to jump on him LOL
@Pauline-lw1no
5 жыл бұрын
Kate is beeing unfair
@kathconserv
5 жыл бұрын
Pauline 123 she’s always unfair, selfish, and annoying.
@Ballygirl886
2 жыл бұрын
Truth is the light.
@brandi17able
3 жыл бұрын
Tobys weight loss looks great
@lihongli6594
2 жыл бұрын
Being insecure sucks. Hurting self and hurting others.
@noreng4933
6 ай бұрын
I can fully understand Kate here. Her husband changed his routine and started working out, A LOT, and hide it from here for months. That's a big deal. She's not unhappy about him losing weight, she's unhappy about him doing so in secret, instead of trusting in their marriage. He chose not to tell her. That's hurtful
@kathconserv
4 жыл бұрын
Kate is the most messed up of all of them. Kevin has it the most together.
@maximussaktish
3 жыл бұрын
I think randall has it the most together, Kevin is not there yet but he is always actively trying to get his life together, and kate is just like.. this scene
@II-gg5my
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin definitely does NOT have it together lmaooo
@Drifter1989
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, Randall has it the most together given his marriage and relationships with his kids, he also made great moves in his career.
@anthonyanderson9303
3 күн бұрын
@@Drifter1989 Randall has it the most together on the surface. Look if you're looking at family, marriage, finances, etc... but he had some deep rooted issues he needed to have sorted out.
@nostalgicgirrl6053
2 жыл бұрын
“Oh like mom can” Yes. You can. Why is she mad at the husband? It’s not his fault that he got healthy and she didn’t. Dear god, I finished season 1 and I liked her character but this clip and her character arch seems ridiculous. How delusional and victim mentality ridden can she be?
@sibanipanigrahy5509
2 жыл бұрын
I agree kate was being incredibly selfish in this scene. I was totally on Toby's side on this matter, buuuut, later in the series he says being around jack makes him sad that's why he stays at the gym so much and, I don't know it felt pretty wrong as well. And then he didn't want to go on that trip that kate arranged. Coz he wanted to mop around. I understand being sad about your son going through this problem. But to avoid it is not the solution. I love the scene where he tells jack about the sound Design of star wars, it actually made me cry. And as of kate in this scene, its pretty crappy of her to say all this.
@k1mch117
4 жыл бұрын
FFS Kate is so freakin' toxic. I would've been so proud of my husband and wouldve just asked his help to push me to go with him to gym. Instead she somehow made it about her.
@misspriss2482
3 жыл бұрын
A more secure person would have. Unfortunately many people who decide to get healthy have to deal with reactions like this from their friends, family, and/or co-workers. When people see you doing something that they know that they should, they get jealous and accusatory.
@logann-mackenziefroste563
2 жыл бұрын
Kate is just jealous that Toby was able to lose all that weight. I never understood why Kate could never lose weight ?
@Drifter1989
2 жыл бұрын
Guess the actress never really tried to.
@iambuhlockay8007
Жыл бұрын
@@Drifter1989doesn’t she wear a fat suit?
@anveshkota2347
5 жыл бұрын
Kate is the worst ..... Shez desperately trying to ruin their relationship...!
@jennamcdonnell783
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I don't even watch this show but girl be mad because her man is working out so he can live longer for their son???🤔
@elizabethallen4353
2 жыл бұрын
The writing on this show is so good.
@heatherhoward8064
2 жыл бұрын
1:50 She acts all offended -- "oh, what, I might have a heart attack and die young, is that what you're saying?" If this character thinks her weight doesn't jeopardize her health, she's delusional. There's a reason we don't see elderly people who weigh this much.
@logann-mackenziefroste563
2 жыл бұрын
If Toby had health issues over his weight that he needed to change his eating habits and to make exercise a priority then why have they never addressed Kate’s health issues when it comes to her weight because carrying that much extra weight be healthy for her ? It looks like she can’t bend over and tie her shoes or wear pants.
@hahna77
4 жыл бұрын
You don't keep a whole other secret life from your wife, secret friends and chats about your wife. He's not being inclusive, which is only making her feel more alone & rejected. She needs support & encouragement, not distance and secrets.
@misspriss2482
3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, but she needs to give him a better reception. It's like complaining that no one ever tells you anything but then always over-reacting and responding with hostility when they do. If that's how you're going to react, why would they tell you? Just by confiding in her, he knew that he was going to make her feel bad. What should he do: not work out because that is the only thing that would make Kate feel better.
@pilirodriguez04
3 жыл бұрын
How is everyone missing that he's been lying to her for months, saying he was at work while he was at the gym. While she was caring for their son. Kate had to take care of him during his depression, she knows how important it is for him to do things that help him mentally, she would have been perfectly okay with the gym if he'd just told her.
@ssissigui8846
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he lied about it just shows how toxic She is. He knew she would react badly and make it about her! Like she always do. I can't stand her
@Torbid22
2 жыл бұрын
He literally said mostly on his lunch break
@SamiLo2
2 жыл бұрын
@@Torbid22 except that wasn’t true. He was also going before work and sometimes after work as well.
@triforcekeyblade7858
5 жыл бұрын
I feel bad that I lost interest in this show. Everything is just extreme and dramatic with everyone's storyline. Idk just me and my opinion.
@azu111
5 жыл бұрын
@Savvi C nah it's just these two that are fked every other story line is good
@user-tr2qq6hh2t
4 жыл бұрын
I love the show but I was kinda feeling that way about season 4 which surprised me, I think they maybe need to introduce new characters
@maximussaktish
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-tr2qq6hh2t season 3 and 4 was kind of a downgrade but season 5 was great imo
@via-anghelmagahum2586
8 ай бұрын
The gym thing is good for his mental health and the heart issues. Exercise has been known to help with depression and anxiety. He had a heart attack young. He’s doing a good thing for himself.
@nickmorales6624
3 ай бұрын
The simple fact that she had not noticed his changes tells you that this relationship was over a long time ago.
@keven2074
8 ай бұрын
Okay Kate, get over your insecurities if youre gonna be attacking your love ones like this. No excuses
@ssissigui8846
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I just can't stand Kate. She has to be the most selfish character on the show. I like Randall and Kevin way more. Kevin's character development is the best to me
@キットカットおいしい
5 жыл бұрын
ケイトはいつも怒ってばかりに見えるけど 色んなことが不安なんだよね… うまくいってほしいなあ
@sumipun5856
4 жыл бұрын
The Pierson Sibling everything come back to them 🙄
@ricof20
8 ай бұрын
Toby didnt deserve, bro had heart attack
@ricardoortiz4870
Жыл бұрын
Taserface before Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
@lindaleelaw5277
4 жыл бұрын
Is she always this miserable. ?
@tyriffic16760
9 күн бұрын
Ok so, she's shaming him and making him for guilty for working on getting his health in order???? What Am I missing??
@vin3049
8 ай бұрын
Kate is toxic. Literally everything about her character revolves around everyone making her feel ok being this unhealthy. It’s just wild
@christycapers4715
2 жыл бұрын
The Big Three is always in a Big Funk.
@thickymcghee7681
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if Kate stopped eating a full slab of ribs for breakfast, she too would lose some weight.
@stevenanderson4197
Жыл бұрын
This is real. It happened to me. I lost over 80 lbs and my wife and daughters have said nothing and are annoyed by it. If turns the mirror back on them. Some women can be selfish creatures. She would rather have him fat and dead. Misery loves company.
@anthonyanderson9303
3 күн бұрын
Yea cuz she even admits at the end that she missed the "old Toby", the broken guy she met at fat camp. Once he bettered himself it forced to look within and she didn't want self accountability.
@Bekka_boo13
5 жыл бұрын
Kate makes it all about her...All she does is moan & complain...She is very selfish...Hope toby dumps her and gets someone better...
@sandimiller6465
Ай бұрын
It's kind of hard to look back now and realize how absolutely toxic kate was.
@LeslieLili
Ай бұрын
Kate was always toxic as adult . She was not very close to Randall , she was sometime mean to her mom , and mostly she was toxic with Toby since the beginning . And a another man propose to her in the end XD
@r3bel383
3 ай бұрын
How in the hell did she flip that?
@audreyb276
2 жыл бұрын
Wow Kate is super toxic!
@TheJazz61
4 жыл бұрын
The writer did not do a good job on this actress
@kathconserv
4 жыл бұрын
Yes he did. We all hate her.
@celineterra8107
4 жыл бұрын
Seriously?
@bharadwaj2008
4 жыл бұрын
This has been her life. It's everything about her weight. So if you think Kate is the problem here then you don't know a thing about what fat people go through. She is fat and she is negative yes, but Toby knew it before she married him. She tells him that it's always going to be about her weight. He should have told her.
@misspriss2482
3 жыл бұрын
So that he could get a negative reaction? Nah, Kate needs to work on herself. I've been overweight myself and there is a huge difference between being negative and always taking out your feelings on other people. Kate wants Toby to stay fat like her and he knows it. That's why he didn't tell her. If he had told her, her reaction would have been the same then as it is here: making him feel guilty to work out and automatically assuming that he's talking about her. I'm tired of Kate's victim attitude. She is who I was years ago before I decided to change my life.
@heinuchung8680
2 жыл бұрын
They should have made him lose weight by developing a drug addiction . Why does everyone hate this character so much. They give him such a hard time.
@liljewels15
2 жыл бұрын
Look I understand all women come in different shapes and sizes but when it comes to women after having children sometimes they don’t even make the time to take care of themselves and have a healthy lifestyle to live long-term. In the fact that toby he didn’t even tell her shows how much he doesn’t really want to say anything about it because it wrote the wrong message to her saying because right now it say to her “I can’t get healthy but you’re able to that “ just says it all right there there’s some women who wants to lose weight but keep making false excuses of why they haven’t done it is the old saying it’s easier said than done.
@jnolette1030
2 жыл бұрын
I would tell her off. For real. What does he see in her?
@PearlsandRoses
2 ай бұрын
She seems to be stuck in the emotionally reactive state of an angsty 17 year old. Somehow, his progress makes her feel less than?? Never really cared for her character.
@11ie32
5 жыл бұрын
this is not toxic this is not telling something to youre wife
@kathconserv
5 жыл бұрын
Elfie Franz it’s toxic. She’s jealous and rude.
@KS-di4df
5 жыл бұрын
BxGirl Blazin' exactly and that’s why he didn’t tell her and was justified in that. How Kate can claim to love him and not be thrilled and proud I don’t know.
@11ie32
5 жыл бұрын
@@kathconserv i guess you never met a toxic person
@googlename7943
4 жыл бұрын
This is REALLY toxic.
@jacobsherman8666
4 жыл бұрын
I pray the actress will lose weight it's really important.
@greenmanlll
4 жыл бұрын
@Maggie Ryan how is she perfect?? Shes fat af....hope u defend obese dudes as well and call them perfect
@lindaleelaw5277
4 жыл бұрын
Does art mirror her life ? Because honey, ....
@decoeric
7 ай бұрын
I hated Kate, she was the worst character on this otherwise wonderful show.
@ellliii6
5 жыл бұрын
First
@claddagh8nuts
Жыл бұрын
This should have been a wake up call for Kate to start sport to be healthier for her kids as well. I truly hope the actress will be able to loose weight for her future.
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