Sounds like a faulty blade. I own some Magnacut knives and theres no way in hell it would roll an edge on cardboard. I bet the heat treatment got borked.
@johncromwell2927
2 жыл бұрын
If it is truly Magnacut, there’s something wrong with the heat treat. Maybe his batch of steel was produced wrong, but I think it’s heat treat.
@anthonycapo1998
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 95% positive this is a heat treat issue. The science behind that stuff is pretty extensive. Another issue could be edge geometry?? For what it's worth that knife looks INCREDIBLE. I almost want to buy one from BGM lol
@WheresWaldo05
Жыл бұрын
Survive
@highplains7777
Жыл бұрын
@@WheresWaldo05 NO!
@mikeydudek2885
11 ай бұрын
Ummm, did you watch the video? Why would you want a useless knife if you are right about the geometry? It could be a heat treat issue, but it would seem to be a lack of treatment rather than over staying it’s warm welcome, so to speak. But then again, I’m an idiot so I could totally be wrong
@jeremynedrow7003
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why.The heat treat has to be off.
@ryejack
2 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting. You really got me thinking on this one. I recently got a Tactile Knife Bexar in Magnacut, so decided to put it through an impromptu test. Granted, this is a very thin blade and super slicey, so it's not a great comparison to your knife, but it's the only Magnacut knife I have. First test, the Bexar easily cut through paper, no problem. Next, I broke down the few boxes I had. It was still very sharp after that. Then, I decided to go further and cut those cardboard pieces down into smaller and smaller pieces, until I had a pretty decent pile of wallet sized cardboard. It still cut through the paper without any issue. Unfortunately, that's the only cardboard I currently have in the house, otherwise I would have kept going. I think there has to be something going on with the heat treatment on your knife. I'm no expert, but that's the only thing I can think of that makes sense to me.
@ztnupe8
2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a Bexar and haven’t any issues, as you said it could be the heat treatment used.
@0zmosis2001
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed mine is fine but took a bit too get that first bur broke off during it's first sharpening
@themahones
2 жыл бұрын
Hope John can look into and make whatever changes necessary. He's got a lot of talent and skills and this is a new steel for everyone.
@DavidCross914
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should borrow one of the "good" magnacut knives to see if their stuff is different than yours?
@jonahdavis9206
Жыл бұрын
What in the world are you talking about? who I she supposed to borrow a between $200-$400 knife from? I don't know anyone who would do that even companies because she doesn't have a huge audience
@geoffreyzimmer2256
2 жыл бұрын
Neeves just did a video on magnacut, he blazed through a ton of cardboard and his ran through paper after with no issues. Sounds like maybe the maker of your specific knife doesn’t know how to really work with that steel. If you like the knife and profile, send it bs k and ask that he use different steel on knife.
@maxlvledc
2 жыл бұрын
I have a magnacut fixed from him...he isn't the issue..either this HT went horribly wrong of he got a bad batch of Mag, mine has zero issues...2 months and still doesn't need a sharpening.
@kirkveesaert9595
2 жыл бұрын
Great review ! You're not timid to "torch" crummy products , without a hesitation of a doubt !☺
@2873lonewolf
2 жыл бұрын
I can't begin to understand why thats happening, with any certainty. My GUESS is soft HT at blade apex, since its testing higher at spine. In my logic, again just a guess at best, a rolling edge is sign of soft, a chipping edge would be too hard and fragile. Wonder if John and Larrin could talk more about the symptoms and find an answer.
@jez76
2 жыл бұрын
That COULD be a phenomenon that appears due to the heat treament being "broken" by machine grinding the edge. It can happen that a very good knife has a bad factory edge due to this. But after (hand)sharpening once or twice the "good" steel is revealed and all is good. [EDIT]Just saw the follow up video to this, and it seems this was it. A “burnt” edge most likely from belt grinder at factory.
@ShawnL61189
2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that the knife made by a 21yo kid? I’m guessing the heat treat or something is off. There’s something wrong with the manufacturing process of that particular knife/knife company. I hope the kid figures it out, as I wish him success.
@matthewsbernier
2 жыл бұрын
Curious to see how the Spyderco Native Salt in magnacut will do for you.
@grumpyuncle.
2 жыл бұрын
In theory, a toothy edge should saw/slice through material better than push cutting through. In a slicing action, small particles of cut material can fall out of the blade as it leaves the cut material. If the same edge is pushed through the material, it will collect debris as it passes through the material, causing a blockage the fine edge during the push. I notice this the most in cardboard. My smooth edges push through like a champ, but toothy edges stall when push cutting. (Although most of my blades are not as thin as yours, so I don't know if a thinner blade would be affected the same by a toothy edge pushing through cardboard.) Another consideration is the blade manufacturer could have some bad stock. Since this is a new steel, perhaps the steel manufacturer has let some bad stock slip past QC.
@shadowcastyt
2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the heat treat is whack, that dulls faster then the Zhunter! Real shame too
@whocares3986
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he got a batch of the wrong steel? I would try to find someone with a RF analyzer or whatever it's called to check the chemical makeup of the steel. He knows how to do a decent heat treat. If he's doing a Magnacut heat treat but it's actually Cruwear or 4V the heat treat would probably end up crap.
@maxlvledc
2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 custom magnacut blades...they are nothing like this...something is seriously wrong. Contact the maker, he is an awesome guy and can help you.
@ericasedc
2 жыл бұрын
Like I said in this video- I am in contact with him constantly. 😁
@maxlvledc
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericasedc awesome! Hope you can get it figured out! Thanks for doing the testing and sharing it!
@joda611
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe heat treat, but maybe that particular steel would work better with a thicker bevel grind like a convex edge instead of the full flat grind. I'm not sure about the steel's characteristics that's my thinking.
@EDCandLace
2 жыл бұрын
With you having so much problems with magnacut (please don't take this as me saying anything negative) on multiple knives what I believe is happening is you are leaving a wire edge, thinking you fully deburred but rather leaving a very fine wire that feels sticky sharp and super aggressive/ toothy and as soon as you start cutting anything the wire rolls and bam insta dull. Some steels are extremely prone to this and out of the customer knives I have sharpened along with my own I can say magnacut at 64 and less is extremely prone to it and the softer the more prone it is.. if you get a microscope and check a fresh edge I would be willing to bet without even seeing it that's what's happening. Again please don't take that as me saying anything about your sharpening or knowledge I'm just giving some advice on a possible problem.
@ericasedc
2 жыл бұрын
That isn’t what’s happening, but thanks for your input. It’s not me- it’s the maker. But I am sure he will continue learning from this.
@imusryde1243
2 жыл бұрын
Something must be wrong with the ht. I recently picked up a Bradford Guardian 3 in Magnacut and polished the edge to hair whittling. After watching your vid I grabbed my knife and quickly ripped through about 265” of cardboard. Still hair popping sharp. A few swipes on a strop and back to hair whittling. I hope you and John can figure out what’s up with that batch. Cool little BGM blades for sure!
@glockgaston2922
2 жыл бұрын
I’m at a loss 🤷♂️ It was cutting paper cleanly and after 6 cuts or so of cardboard and it was hanging up on the paper. I could tell you had a nice edge because of how quietly it initially cut through the paper. IDK all I can say is that really sucks. Thanks for sharing your results 👊
@bobdoby1810
Жыл бұрын
Great Vid , Just Goes To Show HowAll Anyone’s Knowledge And Consistent Out comings Can Be Stumped By Something Not In There Control !! I Have Great Confidence In ERICA!! Seen A Bunch Of Her Vids And She Comes Through Very Consistently With Honesty And Great Insight For Products And Procedere-- So I’m Thinking Hoping It’s Heat Treat Or Something Not In The Known Realm Of Standard Go To Thoughts Or Remedy’s , We Will Wait And See !! So Rest Easy PHYNE LADY !! Take A Breath !! Mystery Will Get Solved In Do Time !! BIGHUGS!!!!!!!!! Take A Moment , And Again Breath !! Hope U Guys And The Doggies All Well And Good !! 💕❤️U ERICA!! 😉😁😘💯🇺🇸🇵🇱🇺🇦🤘🏻👍🏻🤟🏻👊🏻🫵🏻☘️🔥🍀B!!!
@EDCandLace
2 жыл бұрын
I have magnacut at 60.5 and at 64rc. I had both my new sub zero magnacut Dekas poked at one is 60.7 and one at 60.3rc and my two Mule teams in it both tested at 64.2 and one at 63.6 I have card board test cut the mule team that's 63.6 and in a 1.5 inch section it cut 520 feet before no longer cleanly slicing printer paper across the grain. The Dekas I haven't cut test yet. On the mule teams I have found it really really likes 20dps edges (apex would fail fairly quickly at 17dps) it also did better when I sharpened on metallic bonded cbn stones rather than my naniwa or venev bonded diamond stones. I assume the carbide structure likes the shallower cutting cbn over the more aggressive cutting diamond it deff holds it's bite/toothyness longer when sharpened on CBN over diamond. I will also test it on shapton glass stones and chosera stones and see how those edges do but right now I can safely say both the mule teams toothyness lasts longer when sharpened on cbn. From my tests it really doesn't like to go lower then a 9 micron edge (F600g) and does best on a 17 micron edge (F400 grit) I have even tested it at F240 and it did well. Right now my ideal magnacut edge is finish on F400 and then strop on 12 micron cbn on soft leather to fully deburr (I have noticed magnacut will hold on to a burr pretty damn hard and it will wire edge on you in a heart beat) with EXTREMELY light passes and only a couple per side then finish on 8 micron cbn on a hard leather.
@JMcConnell
2 жыл бұрын
+1 to it holding on to a burr. Once I fully deburred, I got a great, lasting toothy edge off of DMT coarse and fine stones that showed great edge stability. That burr was stubborn at first, though.
@snowtiger44
2 жыл бұрын
Bummer this knife performs this way i really like the looks of it to and the flat grind, i saw a DBK video on magnacut that gave a very good impression of the edge retention of a magnacut knife , Rock on girl take some rest first 🙂👍
@jediflip3239
2 жыл бұрын
I know little about magnacut, but if it's quenched between plates there is a possibility the spine hardened as there was plenty of contact to draw heat, but the edge didn't cool fast enough, assuming the grinds were done before the blade was hardened.
@lindboknifeandtool
2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a specially milled plate to accept the thin edge and have contact throughout the blade? That might make plate quenching more even.
@Bowbro69
Ай бұрын
They messed up the soak time, leaving a soft core.
@rodlandscape
8 ай бұрын
Ask your knife's vendor about its HRC, if it's below 63, then the knife from Magnacut is a trash
@ramonade_knives
2 жыл бұрын
I did put 2 MagnaCut mules in through some hard testing and this steel yielded only good results. Spyderco only got them to 62 or 63 Hrc maximum, but it's already really good at that hardness.
@daver6564
2 жыл бұрын
Even with a bad heat treat it should hold an edge better than that.
@briannorrris4141
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t blame the steel…correct tempering means everything!
@nicoledodge7240
2 жыл бұрын
It must be heat treat being too low again… I can’t wait to see what you think of another makers magnacut, sorry you’re not having luck with this one either!!
@BumbleBeeedcYT
2 жыл бұрын
Bummer bummer bummer!! Again? That’s gotta be frustrating for both you and John. I feel for you both, this must be what happens when you’re on the very cutting edge of something new and things suddenly stop moving forward. I’m he’ll get it right with time, and in a little time, you’ll have some Magnacut to test out for the channel. 💪🏻
@alangreywolf6071
2 жыл бұрын
Not to be truly ugly about it, but I've had gas station knives that held up better than that! I don't know anything about magna cut so I can really can't speak to what might be wrong with it, but I can tell no knife should be acting like that after two cuts three cuts whatever it was!
@goawaybaizuo
Жыл бұрын
That's wild. I've used magnacut ever since I got the Spyderco Mule. I get better edge retention than m390 and I have yet to get any kinds of chipping. I have had a few rockwell tested and I've used between 60.9 and 64.7. I much prefer it above 62, but even at 61 it was still fantastic. This definitely looks and sounds like a failed heat treat.
@artisanwalkertapleyco
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty
@stowfam
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for the testing and info.
@AaronJohnson1979
2 жыл бұрын
When you did a zoom up of the edge the primary edge didn’t come up very far at all makes me think it’s like a 30° primary edge you need to hold your angle lower when sharpening I can see the primary edge it’s barely even there. This definitely doesn’t represent magnacut I cut an entire trashcan full of cardboard and it still hair shaving sharp but I heat treated it myself and I know what I’m doing. I’m not knocking John I don’t know if it’s the heat treat I’m gonna go with sharpening angle from this video it’s too thick at the Apex
@AaronJohnson1979
2 жыл бұрын
So let me clarify the knife geometry and secondary bevel and behind the edge looks thin but the primary bevel looks very obtuse
@AaronJohnson1979
2 жыл бұрын
@@knifesharpeningnorway No you’re right it shouldn’t role that easy
@rainbowhiker
Жыл бұрын
It didn't get heat treated, possibly. Send it back. They'll replace it.
@twai8036
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe hogue will give you a better result? They seem to be the first big company to commit to this steel
@ramonade_knives
2 жыл бұрын
I had a K390 knife that did that, the Ladybug. I have 3 other blades in K390 that behave just right, but this Ladybug wouldn't get a damn edge for more than 2 minutes
@ChuckinSteel
2 жыл бұрын
Go watch knife steel nerds, he is the actual creator of magnacut if I remember correctly. He is a steel genius, ask him in the comments and he can help you.
@Surago
2 жыл бұрын
I imagine he tested the heat treat on the spine or tang. If that's the case, I have no idea what could of happened without knowing his process in making the knife. If he did test it, it would need to be a differential heat treat issue, it didn't hold the treatment at the edge as well as it did the spine. Or lost the heat treatment somewhere in the grinding process, if he even does it that way. If he didn't test it, it might not even be magnacut as others have mentioned. Different steels require different treatment. I know you want to keep it but I'd send it back to have it fixed, it's basically a kitchen butter knife steel at this point.
@sammiches6859
Жыл бұрын
Everyone should judge a new steel from a long time professional American knife maker like Buck or Benchmade.
@kevinfitz3721
2 жыл бұрын
I have a junko in magnacut from him in full flat ground and I reprofiled it because it wasn't even, but I did some testing and mine is holding a edge well I like it a lot. I used metallic cbn to 700js witch is 20-14 microns and finished off with a 4 micron strop its pretty fine edge I would maybe even prefer a more toothy edge but it cuts like a demon and holds its edge
@themahones
2 жыл бұрын
That's really good to hear. The junko's look awesome I was thinking about getting one soon but I'm leaning towards a different model at the moment
@Oldecrow_bushworks
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a heat treat problem. I've had something similar happen and it was confirmed to be improper heat treat. Hopefully that's the case considering i just ordered a knife with Magnacut (my first one).......
@rickgifford42
2 жыл бұрын
Please for the love of God...try T Kell knives!
@jacobcarter6028
2 жыл бұрын
I know you like toothy edges but have you tried it with a very fine edge?
@AbsoluteSeo
2 жыл бұрын
maybe try ordering a new hogue deka in magnacut. aren't available yet, but they're right around the corner. spyderco also has some magnacut natives on the way
@joshcutlip7548
2 жыл бұрын
Thats strange I have a hogue deka in magnacut and its great super slicy holds edge and is easy to sharpen. Wonder why the variation ?
@anthonym6078
2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the exact same thing, I’ve got the Magnacut Deka too and it just shreds cardboard for days and I haven’t even had to strop it yet. After a little over a week and many boxes the edge still is still super sharp. Def very weird
@tizben
2 жыл бұрын
Magna cut definitely depends on the heat treat. This one is probably a little too soft
@Headhighinc
2 жыл бұрын
I've been testing a magnacut kermode from tacticaleverydaydad here on the farm and at work I've had really good results im assuming heat treat is the absolute factor with magnacut im looking forward to try some from spyderco they really like to make sure they have got everything right before they release a new steel I'd like to see how it compares to what I have
@brandonjones1580
3 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s a quality control issue with the heat treat?
@griff7749
9 ай бұрын
Even my Tactile Rockwall at 61hrc with factory edge cuts pretty well and strops back like a dream. I know it's soft Magnacut, but it still seems like pretty balanced steel with an emphasis on toughness
@molon_labe_nc9390
2 жыл бұрын
I don't have any yet but this is making me second guess it
@jamieluvsknives3912
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you need to baton through the cardboard lol omg how bad is that heat treatment I've seen 8cr13mov last longer
@stevestory8483
2 жыл бұрын
It seems like bad testing on the part of the manufacturer. Why would you build with a new steel and not do at least some testing on it so you don’t trash your reputation with bad product. It’s even more puzzling due to the fact that the first knife was bad as well.
@labanganrs8976
Жыл бұрын
cardboard is maid mainly of trash and abrasive sand particles is part of it. Normally you don't see a big difference, but I had some boxes which made my zdp189 and elmax knives dull and shiny in just 20 cuts. the rope test might help to restore your trust in very good knife, the dirty cardboard will kill even the light saber. Since realizing that I use my beautiful knives for everyday tasks, bushkraft, camping and etc but for cardboard I use exacto knifes period
@SouthernKnifeLife
2 жыл бұрын
wow, that's crazy, maybe he got a bad batch of steel or something. try sharpening at 20 degree per side, might hold the edge a little longer.
@100BearPaw
10 ай бұрын
I have the same issue. I have tried several different edge angles. It either rolls or chips. Nothing in between. I think it’s all a hype that media has sold people out on. I’ve been using mine on soft Basswood for woodcarving. In sloyd knife form. Every other steel I have out performs it. By a long shot. And I spent three times more than I have on any other sloyd knife to get that steel. Just sad.
@jjirish81
Жыл бұрын
It's the heat treatment!!! I currently have 7 different magna knives and they all perform spectacular. Do you have issues with other knives or just this one? It's gotta be the heat!
@grizzlycountry1030
Жыл бұрын
The problem is who you bought from. Just scrolling through the website looking at history, pricing, etc sends up red flags. "Welcome to my website. My name is John and I am 22 years old. I have been making knives for around 5 years now." (BGM KNIVES)
@jimsolmer1292
Жыл бұрын
From what I hear he makes really incredible knives that cut great and dont have problems. It seems like it's just this steel maybe? Would you trust buying from him? Also, do you have any recommendations of good quality knife makers? Thanks
@DREDEDEDGE
Жыл бұрын
Magnacut I a difficult steel to heat treat it must be austenitized at very high temps around 1900-200 degrees, needs to be air quenched with plates or interrupted oil, must be tempered twice and can be cryo treated for better results, I recommend buying a blade made from it by a reputable source, no super steel should loose its edge so easily, whoever made that knife didn’t do it right
@denvercriss78
2 жыл бұрын
Did the heat treat get messed up maybe
@richardrudy2834
Жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since I have watched your videos kiddo, nice to see ya again. Look forward to more videos 👍👍
@ericasedc
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ChuckinSteel
2 жыл бұрын
That would be bad heat treatment.
@D.or.A
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, good luck
@maloc1166
Жыл бұрын
This says bad heat treat all over it. Unless it’s the cardboard that does say it’s chewy on it lmao 😂
@maloc1166
Жыл бұрын
Also I have a little hogue deka in magnacut and there is for sure something wrong with yours. Mine is slice and dicey, sharpens or strops to a razor blade and is so freaking good. It’s not even my favorite knife or steel but like I know it should be my main user deep down.
@huntsvilhawk1598
Жыл бұрын
What angle are you putting on your blade when sharpening your knife
@BahmannBlades
2 жыл бұрын
Curious if it’s a bad heat treat? Speaking from experience two steels with two different heat treats are two completely different experiences.
@DenyTheZeitgeist
8 ай бұрын
Just goes to show, it’s about the heat treat.
@AutismFamilyChannel
8 ай бұрын
Maybe a new steel that some manufacturers haven’t worked out the heat treat/ process/ science yet?
@jonmay55
Ай бұрын
Never should have been sold then
@bryanstone7237
2 жыл бұрын
First off thank you for the video updates. Taking your time to do them is really useful. Second, it sucks this is happening. I love John’s knives, but it seems fairly evident there is an issue. Hopefully he can work it out. To those actually reading these comments, I can attest to his awesome work with other steels. I have a 4” custom in Nitro V and have put it through solid abuse even batoning with it. No problems over the course of maybe 2+ yrs
@BrentonCarr
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a lousy heat treat.
@GetMeThere1
2 жыл бұрын
MagnaCut is truly an awesome steel -- believe me, there's absolutely no doubt about that. What makes it awesome is the COMBINATION of attributes -- excellent (but not "super") edge retention, combined with very good toughness and corrosion resistance. There's never been a steel with those attributes in such high order, in combination. Your problem here is a bad heat treat. Unfortunately, many steel reviewers don't understand that they're often testing blade geometry and heat treat factors (and hardness decisions by the heat treater) MORE than steel formulations. The crummiest, cheapest, OLD, basic steels -- if given truly expert heat treatments -- can work amazingly well; and similarly, the "superest" of super steels can be crap with a crap heat treatment. This is a sad reality. One problem is that some super steels require quite sophisticated heat treatments to achieve the qualities they're advertised with -- and some third party heat treaters take shortcuts where they shouldn't (and some small-time knife makers don't have the equipment necessary to optimize super steels (liquid nitrogen cryo treatments, for example). Get a magnacut knife from a source known for excellent knives with many different steels and you'll see it's value. If you're doing exclusively box cutting, you'd probably be best off with steels like 20CV or M390 (or K390, if you don't have to worry about corrosion). MagnaCut shows its best value when the combination of toughness (i.e., resistance to edge chipping) AND excellent corrosion resistance are top priorities. Spyderco has a great reputation for good steel treatment and slicey knives that make the best box cutters.
@greekveteran2715
7 ай бұрын
Actually Magnacut, properly heat treated, provides better edge retention even compared to M390 and K390. What's the Magnacut steel, is over hyped at, is it's toughness. When it comes to steel blades, you can't have everything, the harder you get a steel, the less tough it becomes. Magnacut, being closer to a stainless, which also makes a steel less tough,being so hard im the same time, means it can not be very tough. That being said,how that translates to a blade and edge performance, has to do with many more factors than steel itself. it's heatreatment, bevel geometries, thickness of blade stock, how the knife was made and so on. Finaly, what matters the most in a knife, is everything else, than the steel itself. Steel should be tha last factor, a user and potential buyer, should care for in a knife.How the knife was made, heat treatment, bevel geometries, handle, and sheath, are all more important than steel itself. The only time, that one has to care about steel, is if he wants it for fishing etc, where he still has just to avoid, low alloy steels and not choose a specific steel for any reason, other than that! Happy new Year!!
@sammiches6859
Жыл бұрын
The "chef" is more important than the ingredients.
@willydstyle
2 жыл бұрын
I'm betting that companies are in such a rush to get Magnacut knives to market that they're probably skimping on QC and taking production shortcuts, and I bet this particular blade either missed the heat treat somehow or just a very poor heat treat from being in a too-crowded oven.
@BenoJ3000
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the edge got overheated. John does a good job so not typical of what he does. Something happened that's not normal.
@RWKnaf
2 жыл бұрын
Either it’s heat treated extremely poorly, or it’s not actually magnacut? Do you know what HRC is, or what it’s supposed to be? My experience with magnacut at 63-64 HRC is completely different, that seems extremely fishy.
@ericasedc
2 жыл бұрын
It’s supposedly 62-63
@billr4492
Жыл бұрын
I hope you got your money back.
@lumengod
7 ай бұрын
Have your tried Magnacut recently? It seems that their are multiple videos that Magnacut isn’t good from a year ago, now people are calling it a super steel
@johnmoder5306
8 ай бұрын
From which brand is this knife? I have doubts in the quality of magnacut. Survive Knives had some trouble with it. Check it out on their channel. Very interesting.
@mcm4point2o
2 жыл бұрын
gotta get some Spydie k390 homeslice
@markjg2275
2 жыл бұрын
All these fancy steels are just marketing to sell more knives for more money , I have no problems with the basic carbon steels 1095 , 01 , A2 , L6 , forged properly they work great and rust does not concern me since I oil the blades and clean them after use.
@knaftasticedc956
2 жыл бұрын
Your cardboard is magnacut proof..get some different card board..😂🤣😂🤣 sure there is a grind or heat treat combination that is the culprit...the edge tip is too soft..imho..basically cuts like raw sheet metal...just carry a butter knife in your pocket..good luck on your mission to find out the issue.
@dualsportedc
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ. I’ve seen 3cr13mov perform better than that Magnacut. Hell I’ve had chinese mystery steels do better on cardboard
@HTS_EDC
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos....relatively new subscriber. Best of luck on your new endeavors in Ohio. I already know your gonna kill it. Question.....have u even got a hold of a Bradford knife. I think they are some of the best semi production fixies in the game. I think a Guardian 3 would really fit your hand well and they several blade shapes, scale variations, and upper end steels. I have several Guardian 3s and several Guardian 3.5s. Just actually picked up a 3.5 in Magnacut. Love these blades.... drop me a line and tell me whatca think... HT in Arkansas...
@TheBigToe69
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a heat treat issue. Magnacut is the bee’s knees for sure. The fact that it’s rolling after a few cuts of cardboard is definitely a heat treat problem. Watch Triple B’s Magnacut videos. Send the knife back to your maker and buy from someone who knows how to treat Magnacut.
@thedetective8150
Жыл бұрын
A lady that likes knives that's very cool 😎.
@my_everyday_carry
2 жыл бұрын
Bummer and not a single interruption from a dog - lol !!!
@sonofagun743
Жыл бұрын
It’s the heat treatment
@BerserkEDC
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's a bad heat treat.
@peterdemarco3406
7 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm sorry, maybe I just missed it, but did you say mention the brand name of the knife, what you paid for it, the Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (MSRP). The brand name and cost would be useful to people watch or subscribe to your KZitem channel. I "jumped ahead" to another video (presumably the next) you made entitled "I cracked the code of Magnacut" and I did not hear you mention the brand or cost of the knife.
@mityjoeyoung8855
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a bark river bush crafter scout in Magna cut snap on another KZitem channel. But I'm leaning to a heat treat issue. Looks like it was not even heat treated at all. It's seems way too soft.
@davidgrady4516
Жыл бұрын
Possibly had a bad heat treatment
@austinwight1107
Жыл бұрын
My assumption is that knife is extremely soft
@toddpote2937
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe send it over to Neeves knifes for a geometry change and a sharpening . Now before you block me I know you know how to sharpen a knife very well and you have been sharpening for years, maybe it just needs someone to look at it from a different angle, see what I did there. Like you said you have been working with no break sense March 18 and maybe someone else has seen this before. I"m far from any kind of expert but I like to give it to the experts when I have a problem. Subscribed/ Peace
@zdenekbart
Жыл бұрын
Magna-Cut is very good steel. If there is eny problem, is problem of heat treating. Not problem of the steel.
@michaell397
2 жыл бұрын
Although I do suspect mix up in steel or heat treat, or more often, slightly having its hardness lowered by being sharpened on a belt and getting a little too warm, any of these will effect the performance. (Often, the damage is only superficial and simply sharpening a few times can get past the softer as delivered edge. this is why you hear so many times that sharpening a knife 4-5 times often improves the edge retention). On a side note, I knew part of the issue while watching your very first cut. You cut the paper heal to tip and I would imagine it was sharpened the same way. However, when you made the cuts, you not only did a modded push cut, you cut the card board tip to heal. Exactly the opposite to the way the paper was cut and most likely the sharpened pattern as well. On a carbide steel, the carbides are aligned while sharpening. Polish too much and the carbides will be removed in use quickly. When a blade with decent carbides on the edge is sharpened heat to tip, the cut should be the same. Cutting from tip to heal will tear out the carbides quickly and give less than stellar performance. Much like trying to cut wood with a high pressure but trying to cut a hard wood with the back stroke rather than the forward stroke which would putting the teeth in to the cut as opposed to the teeth being rounded and dulled by the back cut. (Which doesn't work well at all if it cuts at all, and exactly what you are doing here). Before you dismiss my thoughts, understand that I am a Retired Knife Maker with over 47 years in the trade and my fit and finish and sharpness are well know thru out the world of custom knives. If you would, consider my thoughts here. It comes from many years of experience. this is to say that we all learn from experiences and the experiences of others. Try this, tip the heal downward at the same angle to the edge that you sharpened it and draw the blade in the cut exactly in the same manner you sharpened it. This will allow the micro teeth or toothy edge to really get into the cut and allow the carbides to really show their stuff. and remember, a polished edge is for push cutting and a toothy edge is for draw cutting. Both are good edges but are better suited for their intended purpose. Reverse their roles, and they become poor performers. KnifeMaker
@ger13nunyah56
2 жыл бұрын
This is not the way
@Surviveknives
6 ай бұрын
These are some of the things we've been running into with Magnacut, from a manufacturer's perspective. Great content, I love your shooting style and genuine conversation. Magnacut Voids & Quality Criticisms kzitem.info/news/bejne/u4JmqGiPZpGhfm0
@ericasedc
6 ай бұрын
I’ll take a look!
@1981shovelheadhd
2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a Polished edge yet? If not I’m curious about it
@ericasedc
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I have. They all suck haha
@Montblanc1986
2 жыл бұрын
The statistical stats of Magnacut aren’t desirable to me
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