Lets be honest, E3 ruined E3 near the very end we cant lie to ourselves
@utsavpradhan2754
3 ай бұрын
No e3 didn't ruin e3. It was hate clickbait KZitemrs who would make content out of thin air.
@valzy2267
2 ай бұрын
@@utsavpradhan2754 No dude. E3 for it's last 4 years were actually abysmal
@utsavpradhan2754
2 ай бұрын
@@valzy2267 that's because of covid u mron
@utsavpradhan2754
2 ай бұрын
@@valzy2267 it's because of pandemic u idt
@Vikumax
2 ай бұрын
@@utsavpradhan2754 E3 doxxed countless of people by sheer incompetence. I'm pretty sure E3 ruined E3 my dude
@hopelesslyoptimistic8231
3 ай бұрын
I don’t blame Summer Games Fest; I blame the industry. Video games are very profitable now and companies want to dip their paws in it. The whole industry has become sterilized because now bigger companies who don’t care about games have put their money into the industry and expect returns.
@nman551
3 ай бұрын
Especially Ubisoft, EA, and Activision Blizzard
@HermanFalckHow
3 ай бұрын
@@nman551Honestly you shouldn't blame them because they are the ones who are dying without E3. Sony and Nintendo didn't need E3. Ubisoft and EA did.
@nman551
2 ай бұрын
@@HermanFalckHow what are you talking about bro is not cooking
@HEARTMACHINEPLUSULTRA
3 ай бұрын
I'll never forget those G4 days, man. Their E3 coverage felt like watching the Super Bowl or World Series.
@lightdarksoul2097
3 ай бұрын
I think E3 kinda ruined E3 with doxxing and just being hard to work with.
@KaraiMorotĩ
3 ай бұрын
It did, not to mention people still had to pay to be at E3. So I don't get why he's complaining that people have pay to be at the show.
@shinigamiryan5837
3 ай бұрын
@@KaraiMorotĩ Think the issue is that most companies have enough presence online that such money spent on such showcases they can host themselves no longer makes sense. E3 use to air on television, now just about anyone is a click away from viewing it. These types of showcases just don't make sense and the ones they do go to are often more about connecting, rather than what Summer Fest is at this point.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Even if the doxx didn't happen, E3 was on its way out. People act like E3 collapsed in 2 years over the pandemic.
@KaleKnight300
3 ай бұрын
i think Geoff is actually trying to make SGF good but is being held back by the big boys hosting their own showcases.
@HermanFalckHow
3 ай бұрын
Is he? Because I don't agree. If they showed Monster Hunter live on stage, or Phantom Blade, or Batman VR. Or any of the many many sick as fuck looking indies. That would have been cool. But this is just ads. Trailers were never the good part of E3. The good part were the game presentations. But because literally every minute costs a ton of money that makes the whole event seem so Hollow.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Held back by Geoff's greed, yea. He's never getting Nintendo on stage. It's a sunk cost.
@Vert_GreenHeart
2 ай бұрын
Gaming went too corporate, it went too mainstream it attracted investors who knows or cares nothing about video games, all they care about is this industry prints money so they went all in. This is why we need an a whole wide industry crash, get the industry back to how it should be, full of creativity and experimentations, bringing back the good times like in the late 90's and early 2000's.
@paulstaker8861
Ай бұрын
It's crashing right now with all the layoffs. Hurrah!
@Vert_GreenHeart
Ай бұрын
@paulstaker8861 I honestly think its too big to crash now...
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
@@paulstaker8861it's a downturn, and the ones up top aren't the ones suffering.
@gravewolf77skeleton62
3 ай бұрын
It seemed like he was one of the first to pick up where E3 left off. So despite issues I may have, He did do something for the community to keep the Idea of E3 alive.
@July_Oh
3 ай бұрын
Its weird to romanticize E3 as if it was an almost grass roots type of event. It was corporate as hell and was equally as gross as Summer Games Fest.
@vinny3410
3 ай бұрын
Real bro
@SoraIndigo
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, E3 definitely had that corporate feel in some aspects, but you gotta consider that E3 originally was MADE for those kinds of people. The main people who would be seeing the news at early 2000s E3 are those in the industry, journalists, and investors. The average consumer didn't overtake some of that demographic until later on because gaming became more popular along with the growth of the internet and, imo the lets play boom on youtube making word of mouth and free advertising that much more sought after, its why popular content creators get free games/special editions to show off/advertise to their audience. I think the main issue post E3 is that, the biggest gaming events is hosted by Geoff or features him thus he become this sorta figurehead for gaming shows, with E3 everyone kinda knew there wasn't really this one big figurehead, it was mainly "who won e3 this year, sony microsoft or nintendo" with a variety of other devs/companies dropping their own things too. Each of the major companies repped themselves rather than MAYBE going on stage at the game awards or sending a trailer in for summer games fest. Plus having E3 allowed for there to be a uniform schedule knowing when each event would happen during the E3 week, now its like, "yeah sometime in late may/june there will be a state of play/nintendo direct/xbox showcase" and frequently there will be multiple events overlapping in time like that Marvelous event this year with the sony event, and hell we STILL don't know when the nintendo direct is coming we only know that it will happen. Tl;dr all these events are corporate to some extent, but unlike E3, these big events are being handled mainly by one person featuring 1 or 2 other people in some fashion(pre-show or co-host) and they use the time for ads/sponsors while semi-rapid firing trailers with minimal time for devs to talk about the games.
@EMPujols
2 ай бұрын
These kind of people were the first to shit on e3 back then calling them snoozefest and now it's a problem they're gone lol
@DionPanday
2 ай бұрын
But but my favorite KZitemr said E3 was goated 😢
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
@@EMPujolsnah, I always loved it. Encouraged me to be a dev myself. TT nailed it, it's no longer a celebration of creators and their creations, it's a corporate mouthpiece. But gamers never cared about creators so Im nor surprised people here are defending SGF
@HawaiiTimePodcast
3 ай бұрын
To that Geoff KILLED E3 season definitely is a bit much. Maybe if the vid was called "how one man killed the E3 spirit" I would agree more. Even so I think the only one out of four Summer games fest that was actually half decent was 2023's I think that Summer game fest should be here. The same with the game awards
@luckymedic1438
3 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself. You cooked!
@Giliver
3 ай бұрын
Summer Games Fest doesn't make sense when Gamescom is just around the corner and is usually better.
@KaraiMorotĩ
3 ай бұрын
Yeah but companies are also skipping gamescon. Sony and Nintendo aren't going. It still won't have that E3 spirit that he wants.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Spirit of the season, yes. E3 was always corporate but TGA/SGF don't even try to hide it. And sad part it won't change because people just want shiny AAA trailers. And Geoff gets shiny AAA trailers. In some ways we killed the E3 spirit. Because we didn't understand what was really magical.
@reddeadghostxx
2 ай бұрын
E3 felt like a huge big celebration of Video Games, a place where Nintendo, Playstation & Xbox were present physically and you could even meet people like Iwata, Reggie, Miyamoto, Phil Spencer and Mark Cerny. It truly felt like clash of the titans.
@tommymacklin6641
3 ай бұрын
It should be noted that while Nintendo did start doing Directs, they still showed up to the E3 show floors. You did loose those on stage reveals, but they were still there to conduct interviews and talk with other developers. I think they struck a good balance when they would have their directs, which were not too long, and then have the Treehouse presentations afterwards where the games would be demoed, with developers sometimes being there to discuss the games.
@jordanwhite352
10 күн бұрын
Another thing about Nintendo Direct which really makes Nintendo look like the head of the curve is that we also should really count how much online streaming has skyrocketed along with social media. In 2013 in 2014. Yeah it was a little weird to just have the announcements online when you were just making posts on bulletin boards. Now people actively live stream this stuff and people make memes of the reactions and these streamers draw in way more people than the live presentations ever did even when they were televised. Then you have social media algorithms who are attuned to this type of insaneness that you see online that Nintendo deliciously has now tapped into and all of a sudden the most seemingly backwards conservative company was now extremely ahead of the curve. And so I think that's another thing we have to factor in which is simply the media landscape has changed and Gamers themselves have changed. I didn't had mobile games that were the equivalent of Xbox 360 power with gotcha mechanics we didn't have at home. VR, we didn't have Xbox ones in handheld form factors in our pockets. We didn't have cloud gaming. We didn't have twitch and tick tock and all of these things. We also really need to factor those things in.
@RnA.2
3 ай бұрын
I mean Geoff has kind of been gaming's #1 salesman since way back in the day. He's also been one of its biggest voices defending too, he'd been the news here and there telling concerned yet ignorant people that gaming isn't gonna be crazy harmful to your family or loved ones. (Heck I love one back and forth where he had to explain how Mass Effect doesn't have full on porn lol.) Like you said, I think he's pretty legit with how much he cares abt gaming, wouldn't think he'd be in this industry since the 90s if he wasn't passionate abt it. Do I get why people will be frustrated with the ads vs. the actual games and reveals? Sure but tbh, I appreciate the ads aren't as off base as they were before, monitors, VR, gaming, and general tech ads at least align with the world of gaming. (And heck, I remember when I was watching this year's summer games fest and a friend joked earlier in the show they should have a sponsor for dash pass, which I don't disagree with since I joked earlier we should have food sponsors since c'mon, gamers gotta eat.) I will simply end off on that while yes, E3 would at least give us live stage demos of the games coming out, it was still a marketing conference no more or less than Geoff's shows. Also from what I understand, there is networking and behind the scenes talking at summer games fest, so it isn't like that was taken away from devs and publishers either.
@DionPanday
2 ай бұрын
This, im not a fan of Geoff but he definitely cares about games, way more than this channel. This video just seems like someone who is jealous because someone is more successful than themselves
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
@@DionPandayused to care. Money corrupts all, and he wears it on his Dorio cap.
@DionPanday
4 күн бұрын
@@raze2012_ if you’re weak willed money might corrupt, but not everyone is like you
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
@@DionPanday lotta people in generate are weak-willed. I'm not special either. You're probably not special either. I just don't think Geoff ever tried to resist. He actively dove into the corporate pit.
@DionPanday
4 күн бұрын
@@raze2012_ Exactly you think, because all you can do is speculate, but you know nothing so don’t pretend you do
@e3vL1
3 ай бұрын
Id say iwata ruined e3. Nintendo figured it cost too much to rent out space, pay for trailers to be in main event that they started to make their own showcase/direct in their own time. Eventually everyone followed suit. Geoff just did summer games fest to keep e3 idea alive and possibly to promote his game awards at the end of the year
@tommymacklin6641
3 ай бұрын
Nintendo still bought space on the show floor though. They still had a physical presence at E3, their show was just digital. The first of the big 3 to fully abandon E3 was Sony, who didn’t even bother showing up at all in 2019.
@lightdarksoul2097
3 ай бұрын
Nintendo weren't really wrong plus the live shows didn't always work for them so they didn't bother
@CyrusIsnt
3 ай бұрын
The issue was E3 was generating a lot or money, but it was expensive for companies. But the companies put on the shows. I good example rolling loud festival. Imagine if they didnt pay artist and bands. Would they show up? Help sell these passes but take no money
@Goujeton199
3 ай бұрын
I say E3 was under borrowed time when in E3 2011 gaming media sabotaged the Wii U by acting confused about whether it was a new console or a device to magically turn Wii games in HD. Nintendo did their first Nintendo Direct later that year testing how they can "directly" present their new product information to consumers without live media coverage running their own stories and stopped live E3 presentations after 2012.
@rolandlesperance1776
3 ай бұрын
Brilliantly done! 💡👏
@MisterKrakens
3 ай бұрын
Without Geoff we wouldn't have E3 anymore. E3 was also trash for years. Finally, even tho I'm not a huge Geoff fan, he's not only a businessman, he IS a gamer and that's rare enough.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
E3 was trash in the same way SGF is trash without Sony/Nintendo there. If that's all you're there for you never cared about the "spirit" of E3. If all you wanted was trailer of new game, we haven't needed E3 for decades.
@MisterKrakens
4 күн бұрын
@@raze2012_ What I loved about E3 was the conferences from publishers like Bethesda and Ubi (when it was good) and huge conferences from Microsoft and Sony. Because it was full of crazy world premieres and even though for the last 5 years it was always mediocre, I had a great time with some friends a beers trying to guess what game will be announced and what it a world premiere trailer about
@JJFT235
2 ай бұрын
Part of the reason Nintendo stopped doing live presentations is because they can control their messaging and have misinformed articles about them regarding their E3 presentations. In a direct, they are under their own element and can present games without too much interference from outside elements.
@Ziko577
2 ай бұрын
That's correct and you then can gauge how audiences receive the games and updates to existing games especially when the directs focus on certain games such as Pokemon & Mario.
@e3vL1
3 ай бұрын
We should discuss how at least Geoff mentioned the layoffs and Phil Spencer didn't. The xbox showcase was great in terms of content shown, but the release dates were very vague. Doubt most of the "coming 2025" are actual dates, just arbitrary placeholders. If you take a step back feels like they're generating false hype. What's worse is phil talked about the layoff after the fact with what felt like a planned interview with ign with no follow up questions just like Bonds interview
@TestingTriangles
3 ай бұрын
I recorded and edited the video before watching the Xbox showcase but I couldn’t agree more! Very disappointing that they never once acknowledged all of the studio closures in their end. I still overall think Geoff has his heart in the right place but he’s gotta keep up appearances and stay very apolitical in that sense so it doesn’t alienate any potential buyers.
@bladedicedragon
3 ай бұрын
why is everyone getting mad at 250k per minute, yall DO know e3 was easily 2x+ the cost per minute, and something like 5 mil for a booth right?
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
E3 was a physical venue. Early on it was all online and still crazy costs.
@h8fulweeb
3 ай бұрын
Him not standing for anything is what makes me like his shows, I know it's not gonna be any problems with him and his opinions, just games without any shit
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Games without any soul. And you wonder why Concord and Suicide Squad ship. Waste of money all around for the industry. And yes, he does stand for something. He's a safe, milquetoast brand. That's not why I fell in love with gaming..
@loboneiner1034
3 ай бұрын
I miss E3. I would use my vacation days just to stay home and watch it from 2005 until 2019.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
2 ай бұрын
That's a long vacation! (Dad joke, sorry.)
@loboneiner1034
2 ай бұрын
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 I wish I could have gotten a paid vacation for that amount of time
@StargazingCeres
2 ай бұрын
E3 really got cancelled because no one felt like they could top Ikumi Nakamura presenting Ghostwire Tokyo in 2019. Even Keanu Reeves was humbled!
@KyudoKun
3 ай бұрын
The thing I don't like about him is that he always overhype TGA yearly, like it's an Oscar award tier. I could go as far as to say he's trying hard to compete with Hollywood award ceremonies, which I think is ridiculously outrageous and anti comedy. I don't know but, he's like a Wolfe in a sheep's clothing. Everything about him doesn't feel genuine, it's so odd seeing him grinning from ear to ear. He's like a walking billboard, an npc.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
He's never been generous. Doritos Pope was over a year ago and he's only gotten worse somehow. I remember the G4 days where he'd looked cooked on camera. People call me a hater. And yes, I am. Because I hate people who never become better people but keep moving up the chain. This exact thing happens in studios too and is why we have so many industry controversies every month. People just like Geoff. At least they hid it better.
@airem5861
2 ай бұрын
I did have the opportunity to assist to two E3 and its true what it is said in this video, the excitement, the experience of this kind of shows was unique. How you socialize with other people, how the booths were awesomely design (specially Nintendos) the free gifts, the conference were really good and the excitement were real, I really miss E3. I dont like this soulless liveless conference of today but this is just me.
@mg6945
3 ай бұрын
What I really miss about E3 is the schedule. Each company conference was in the days leading up to the event, all one after the other. It was such an exciting few days. Now it’s just stretched out over the month and it doesn’t feel the same at all, especially when I forget about some of these even happening because of that.
@vinny-zebu
3 ай бұрын
What connections did E3 provide? Game developers already have their own conferences to network and players aren't really participating in these events, they are very niche and expensive. It felt like nothing but waste of time and fabric of memes when in the end all we cared was the games being presented. Wanting E3 to be back is nothing more than rose tinted nostalgia glasses.
@Syae225
2 ай бұрын
1000% during E3 everyone was complaining about the event and talking about how bad it is now that people grew older they take out their nostalgia glasses and make it out to be the greatest event ever but during those time it wasn't like that at all
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
GDC and E3 were a league apart. They had a much larger international community that would come in. It may have been the only time US studios could talk in person to Japanese ones. Also, nothing wrong with 2 places a year to connect instead of 1. GDC is in February, E3 was in June.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
@@Syae225speak for yourself. I always loved E3 and it was still a good time even in the years the conferences were mid. If you only wanted game trailers you never cared about what E3 actually was.
@KingAgniKai
3 ай бұрын
Nintendo and Sony killer E3. When the big two stopped coming, it was over.
@nhlcbj
Ай бұрын
I refer to this as Geoff’s Summer Infomercial, not to be confused the game awards being Geoff’s Winter Infomercial
@pavkaroth
3 ай бұрын
Looks to me like you've got a problem with Geoff himself. E3 and the fest are both just ways to deliver game trailers to ppl, simple as that. If the devs didn't want their games showcased they wouldn't submit them to the show.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Sounds like you missed the point of the video and you just want game trailers. You don't care how many smasung ads are stuffed in. If you never liked E3 it's fine. But the whole point is why people liked E3. If you don't care, you don't gotta watch.
@paradoxplant5070
2 ай бұрын
E3 had an inherent competition aspect. Summer Games feels too clean
@levelupdude3i31
3 ай бұрын
Does your full time job have to do with editing or recording because you’re quite good at it. Very good video nice job you got my sub
@TestingTriangles
3 ай бұрын
It does not lol. 🤝
@jdbb3gotskills
9 күн бұрын
I truly believe he is a corporate puppet. He was placed in his position so they can control the image of their game announcements. E3 was too big of a risk to their image.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Yeah, pretty much. Though puppet implies he has no control. Maybe "stooge" is better. He spent decades tailoring himself to be the perfect corporate spokesman.
@Accuaro
3 ай бұрын
This the man that didn't even mention Hogwarts Legacy even though it was the best selling game, no bias or agenda here
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Funny story there. I was at the TGA concert in 2022 I think(friend invited me last minute), and he made a slip calling It "Harry Potter". Seeing the regret on his face made the entire concert worth it. Concert was fine, just not my music. And the Fireworks display for the "TGA theme" was peak self-flagatory.
@KhaosKontroller
2 ай бұрын
You missed a crucial point about the whole price to get your trailer at SGF. Geoff lets certain games get in for free if he thinks they're really exceptional. That's how a lot of indies earn a spot at the sgow. You really think Cuff Bust, a game made by one dude, got it with that high of a price?
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
*That he thinks is marketable. Good luck betting he'd put Balartro or even Lethal Company. Remember, gotta be safe. Also, do you really trust Geoff's opinion on what's an "exceptional indie"?
@sonicrunn3r895
3 ай бұрын
Describing Geoff as an NPC is the perfect way to describe this man. And it is truly ironic to have that be a representative of a game presentation show
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
And it's crazy how many people defend him here. I thought this community was supposed to be more critical of their industry and not just consume trailers and ask to be excited. I guess those people are why we are gonna keep getting Concords. Receives well in trailers but those people will never actually buy it. Or any game.
@RedLion800
2 ай бұрын
E3 was a press-exclusive smokescreen until it was no longer profitable to make the event press-exclusive.
@Hunterofyeets
2 ай бұрын
I think the most human event in the gaming industry (save for tournaments) is Nintendo's Indie World, in which they show off a bunch of indie games coming onto the switch with the devs themselves explaining what exactly their games is about.
@mastersword648
2 ай бұрын
Multiple indie studios have come out saying that Geoff comes to them to show their trailers and they do it for free, they only paid spots are like the ones that feel like commercials, obviously like the Samsung and the weird mobile game ones. I don’t even like the event at all I think it’s excruciatingly boring, but since that is like the whole thesis of this video, I feel like this video is just invalid mostly
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Survivor bias. You're holden to what Geoff likes, and Geoff like safe and marketable. It's the same problem.
@mrrizaz577
2 ай бұрын
The fact that the youtube algorithm recommended your channel with the amount of subs you have is a blessing. This is was thought provoking and hit home some truths I may have repressed about our beloved industry, and the so called spokesperson for it.
@Foxser
2 ай бұрын
Great commentary. I never experienced E3 to be able to compare the events.
@LoganTheOutlaw
2 ай бұрын
The death of E3 breaks my heart and to see summergames fest be a shell of what E3 was is so frustrating!
@valetboy21
3 ай бұрын
So you criticize SGF for celebrity appearances and five minutes later laud E3 for Keanu Reeves?
@DionPanday
2 ай бұрын
It makes sense if you don’t think about it
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
If you're gonna pay 6-7 figures for an appearance of an actor, they can at least... Act. Maybe Keanu doesn't like games and it's just his brand. He can at least ACT. So many of those appearances phone it in, and remember they are paid more than you make in a decade for that. It's like Jack black vs Chris Pratt. They are bit good actors. It's clear for Mario which one wasn't putting their all in. And yes, E3 had its botched actors as well. I haven't seen a single interesting showcase in SGF tho.
@BreeeXR
3 ай бұрын
I am not one to comment or interact with things online in general, I'm much more of a passive consumer (unfortunately hehe). But I feel compelled to let you know how much I love your videos! I've been watching a few this morning and they are fantastic. I want to say amazing takes but I'm probably biased because I share the takes but anyway, great work!
@felixgijon8621
3 ай бұрын
I agree with the bland presentation and lack of gameplay, including live gameplay, does make SGF a bore. I never watch it live and I scroll through pre rendered ads. But I must disagree on a few points about E3. A lot of the expo was closed off to the public and it slowly moved towards more advertisements instead of opening the expo to more of the public.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
That's the interesting part that may have lead to the death of E3. It actually started as a closed off event. Then it tried to be public for a year or 2 in the early 00's and shut that out hard. But sometime in the early 10's it became a public event. Which may have been a grind on devs who wanted to focus on meeting devs and potentially try to discuss NDA stuff. There was no one reason E3 died so there's another cut to consider.
@Juice8767
2 ай бұрын
This is absurd. E3 was dying before the pandemic. It was meant for developers, vendors and journalists to meetup but had been flooded by consumers who were taking up too much of the intended audience’s time and spaces in line.
@ucVu-di6cx
3 ай бұрын
E3 was on its way out since the Internet and corpos realized during the pandemic that online "conferences" are a waste of money. TGA/Summer Game Fest is a much easier and convenient way to show new game trailers, instead of whatever comes up financially in a physical conference. Geoff may or may not have ruined E3, didn't watch the video, but he picked up what E3 couldn't do - keeping up with the time. Even big game companies don't really want to do something like E3 anymore. Also, Geoff is such a good host.
@invisibleloki26
3 ай бұрын
This video is disingenious in a LOT of ways.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
This comment section is disappointing in a lot of ways. Can't believe Geoff has so many white knights.
@jordanwhite352
10 күн бұрын
You know it's incredibly funny to be a Nintendo fan back in the mid-2000s when they were coming out with Nintendo directs and then the infamous year where they didn't attend E3 as a presentation. Everyone saying that Nintendo has fallen off a cliff and that they were doomed to fail and we're going to go third party and all of that. Nintendo was definitely struggling 3DS was not as popular as DS and the Wii U as much as I liked the system was fucking abysmal and tanked in the market... It's so weird looking back and I guess cuz Nintendo has this stereotype of being business conservative of how ahead of the curve they were. The Nintendo DirectX just kept both the pacing in the announcements quality after quality after quality and then when the pandemic happened it solidified that this is the presentation style going forward. That's one of the reasons why summer Game fest and the game awards are just mud to me because Keely keeps saying oh I do this because I want to retain what E3 used to be with the stage shows but he just keeps filling it With the same exact problems that I had with E3 stage presentations, awkward pacing speakers who are programmers so they don't know how to speak in public. Bad timing, announcements and trailers that wait for applause that never comes and so the whole thing has now become cringe. There is a reason sometimes why things evolve and certain things don't come back anymore and fight, especially during my developer years. I used to dream of going to E3. I am glad that it's dead and I am glad that we've all moved on from it. Three was great when we were all young kids in teenagers but were all adults now we leave in a completely different era with different technology and a different consumer market. So we should accept that and not keep doing this old cringe shit that we used to do. There's a reason why when you play a lot of the games during the PlayStation 3 and 360 era, it just feels like you found awkward teenage photos of yourself during your emo phase. Leave that shit in the past.
@aru5117
3 ай бұрын
What always plain confused me was seeing so many people comment and talk about now much they love Geoff, but I’ve never once heard someone say why they love Geoff.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Bingo. They don't love Geoff. They just want trailers and Geoff gets trailers. Idk why these kinds of people would come to a video about E3 when they didn't care about E3, just the trailer reveals. That's why mid years is just anger at Geoff (I don't care about that. He can't control what games are made. Just how many % of nongame ads are shoved in my face).
@ThePigeonStoop
2 ай бұрын
Gaming Culture and Gaming Journalism was so strong back in the days especially as more 90's kids got older and tuned in to watch TechTV/G4. So many people wanted to be the next Adam Sessler or Morgan Webb. Get paid to talk about upcoming games and possibly play them? Yes please. Edit: Some people are saying E3 killed E3. E3 didn't kill E3. E3 was primarily a trade event used for Game Studios/Devs to pitch their ideas to publishers/retailers. Plenty of games were shown and posters were up at EB Games, Funcoland, Gamestop but never released. One of the few biggest I remember was Starcraft Ghost, Frame City Killer, and the 3rd that comes to mind is Split/Second 2.
@sunxnes
3 ай бұрын
You obviously aren’t aware of the exorbitant price demands that the ESA had near the end.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Sure, cons are always expensive. But imagine if E3 was only 3 conferences and not much else. That's pretty much what SGF is. If you never cared about the non-conference content, you won't understand why it was more value. Still expensive, but we are talking about businesses being targeted.
@bdo333
3 ай бұрын
I deadass fell asleep during the xbox showcase
@Giliver
3 ай бұрын
How...
@micpango
3 ай бұрын
@@Giliver almost all the big games didn't have a date, even the ones coming this year.
@bdo333
3 ай бұрын
@@Giliver I don't care for souls likes.
@thejman5683
3 ай бұрын
@@bdo333what souls likes? Microsoft won not E3 so far
@bdo333
3 ай бұрын
@@thejman5683 I can't name em because after awhile they blend in together.
@DionPanday
2 ай бұрын
12:11 Bro really said I’d rather have deceptive marketing than curated marketing 💀 what a horrible take
@ToweringPepsiMan
3 ай бұрын
I really wish I flew over to America to go to E3, I missed out.
@ggamemaster1689
2 ай бұрын
I watched E3 from 1998-2002 and they had so much personality from the games they showcased to gamers and the press. Having in your face marquees and expressive visuals and cosplayers dressing like the characters from the games at each booth while having a demo of each game on the show floor was amazing. I know that probably will not happen again, but I wonder in the future they could do it one more time in the future for gamers everywhere with great visuals and explosive colors in the booths with modern technology.
@Flindo911
2 ай бұрын
Putting the blame on Geff feels gross since he basically saved the game awards and picked up the ashes after E3 died
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Sometimes a good thing should just stay dead and not be milked by corporate. You woulda gotten your game trailer either way. I don't need yet another middleman in my life gatekeep ing content. 😊
@KennethWrites
3 ай бұрын
i can't believe you called ModdedController360 a fake gamer 😅
@jamilzayas5808
13 күн бұрын
1:33 where'd you get that footage from?
@SuxMenner
3 ай бұрын
I have stopped voting for the Game Awards, it started feeling like user votes do not matter as much as the judges votes who are most likely picked by Geoff. Every year I struggle to stay awake for three hour slop and commercials just for the one or two exciting announcements, sooner or later Geoffs shows will fall the same way E3 did as viewers gradually continue to despise them more and more
@hopelesslyoptimistic8231
3 ай бұрын
They don’t that’s why theirs player’s choice but the actual award is up to judges which I think is fair because consensus doesn’t mean good.
@theinimitablejora522
3 ай бұрын
My first E3 was 2014. I missed the G4 era, and I saw the downfall in real time. I didn’t realize what was being lost with the industry connections. The only hope left is GDC taking up at responsibility, I suppose…
@Vreidicus
2 ай бұрын
I always assume that the audience at E3 events was trained seals.
@teddyfurstman1997
3 ай бұрын
Jeff wants to make an E3 season event, but does not too. :/
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
He's literally said he wants to make TGA the "Oscar's of Gaming". He either doesn't understand what made E3 great or he pretty much has the exact plans for SGF.
@TonyDaExpert
3 ай бұрын
Summer used to be like Christmas now its not that special oh well.
@vk-fb4ox
Ай бұрын
Every video on your channel is oozing with passion. You deserve much more subs
@prismaticseal2553
2 ай бұрын
My issue is with the game industry as a whole, it has more industry than game, more need for big names and all that BS they shove on us with movies and series these days, where everything has to be grand and bombastic, game companies used to be like families, not all of them of course Konami can fuck off, but Naughty dog was full of passionated people (Under awful conditions of Universal studios), trying their damnest to do something different, something cool, before it turned into a remake machine, GTA was groundbreaking, it was unsafe, it was bombarded by mass media because you could fuck prostitutes on your car, everything was about innovation, everything was about trying something cool, something new, Mario Sunshine was a game where Mario shoots water, it sounds so lame but is very cool, they make stuff work, they think something weird and just somehow make it WORK, it now feels like ''This game franchise sells a lot, let sell it again, new number, nothing changes a lot, and we sell mtx'', its all about micro transactions, about a pre rendered trailer and showing a celebrity, its boring, its sterile, it feels like work.
@prismaticseal2553
2 ай бұрын
Just like youtube, it was for fun, people did weird things, now everything its the same, everyone does what works instead of what they want.
@josiahsuarez
3 ай бұрын
I propose we start the E4: EXTREME Electonic Entertainment Expo 😎
@jizamkizam9611
2 ай бұрын
The new ones just don't have the atmosphere and life that those old E3 events did. I remember all the videos going around the event, checking out booths, talking to all the people there etc. Now its just like a standard Hollywood award/gameshow vibe. Not nearly as entertaining
@bdo333
3 ай бұрын
"no game, no hype" - Lyle Rath
@Me_Myself_Maly
3 ай бұрын
Don’t really see why Geoff should stand for anything. From his perspective, he gains little out of it. Geoff is a business man at the end of the day. If he goes calling out companies on live stage, that’s enemies he’s making. Money he’s loosing. And while that will make him look better to the public, it will amount him nothing more than a pat on the back. Which is kinda redundant because a lot of people already like him. He did a good thing mentioning the layoffs without targeting anyone. And did even better when he did something positive and highlighted the good in the industry like all of the top indie games last year. It’s a nice contrast to the constant doom and gloom that I hear about over and over again in this industry. Just because someone has a platform, doesn’t mean they have to use it to preach your views.
@raven80wolfx2
2 ай бұрын
I disagree that you think his response on the industry is evolving. The fact that it is and we are at cross roads for triple A and the growth they had made. Indie games are the future and that is a fact. That these people rebuild and grow to be more amazing. Maybe you haven't been playing games recently. They are filled with microtransactions and costing full price. Shut the hell up! E3 killed itself it making Nintendo, Sony, and now even Microsoft have to adapt.
@PhysicalToast
3 ай бұрын
it’s also the lack of trust that makes summer games fest what it is. It seems like no one actually cares about the trailer and are only waiting for reviews to tell them if the game is buggy or not
@mitsuba_gayming
2 ай бұрын
The recent one he did, man he did not care for Sonic like everyone else in the audience did😭😭😭
@TheAnimatedGamer
Ай бұрын
I mean he was neutral for a lot of games. Y'all can't get mad just cause Geoff didn't go "OMG LOOK" to you're favorite game lol.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
@@TheAnimatedGamerhe's literally paid to be neutral. That's the least surprising part of your comment. He will take swipes at "safe targets" tho.
@MatthewCobalt
3 ай бұрын
Let's just admit that, regardless of Geoff or his show, the real reason E3 died was the lack of purpose once independently produces video showcases were popularized by Nintendo. After that, every large publisher and game company began to hoard all their games and exclusive announcements, making any attenpt at a centralized Show (like Summwr Games Fest) to flounder with lacking content to present.
@bluehornet632
2 ай бұрын
Meh, like you said Nintendo and others dropped out of E3 to give us a 15 minute CEO update of trailers. It was their corporate individualist competitive direction almost like how most film studios splintered off to make their own streaming platforms. Companies used to have a less dire view of consumer marketing. Now mega efficiency is demanded.
@chrisamadeus510
2 ай бұрын
16 :20 Game?
@natalimoina
2 ай бұрын
Support the Triple-i Initiative
@KazuhiraWolf
3 ай бұрын
I do understand the passion and admiration that went into devs showing off their own game, but honestly my only counter point is that now a days anyone with a slightly notable status will just get canceled or called out by something dumb years ago which kind of incentives even indi devs to continue to hide behind the corporate curtains, imo not a huge point, but i feel like the internet itself is a LOT harsher than it used to be by dumb people, so it makes sense to keep everything marketable and clean. Though honestly if more passion is what you're looking for, maybe check out and support some indi game showcases or expos, though I forget their names...
@alfonsor4985
2 ай бұрын
This are just corporate ads and mainstream garbage. I just watch the youtube recaps.
@TheRambossss
3 ай бұрын
Considering that the people that watches SGF are mostly gamers, it's a worldwide audience and than in KZitem the stream got a peak of 617 k viewers and i can say, those prices are cheap. You have no clue how expensive is advertising, this targeted advertising towars prime time numbers worldwide makes it very cheap.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
After reading the comments I'm not even convinced it's targeting "gamers". Not the kind of gamers who go on to complain about how bad the industry is. This is everything they hate about the industry.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
2 ай бұрын
"over 1 million troops. wow." I would die for that man.
@hoodie18th
2 ай бұрын
The pandemic ruined everything.
@SiameseToenail
3 ай бұрын
Xbox is the only one giving the E3 spirit IMO. I stayed until 3am to watch summer games fest, only to get mid.
@hopelesslyoptimistic8231
3 ай бұрын
E3 was from a bygone era where everything was centralized. Now, PlayStation and Xbox events hold the heavy hitters. It’s not fair to blame SGF for not having big games.
@Writing_Gamer_513
2 ай бұрын
I think that the answer you are looking for at 17:10 is he might be paying Twitch and KZitem to allow him to livestream this stuff at like 8k/60, 4K/60, 1080/60.
@lostwheat5806
3 ай бұрын
Buh, but Geoff is the doritto pope he can do no wrong
@bolladragon
3 ай бұрын
I don’t mind SGF right now because it’s NEW. If it’s still this stiff in a few years, then I’ll be upset.
@etorres504
2 ай бұрын
E3 ruined itself man
@morganborzelli8942
2 ай бұрын
Ahaha spot on buddy is a cornball , the Xbox showcase saved this summer for me
@ArcadianWaheela
3 ай бұрын
I’m glad to see most people in the comments disagree with this take and don’t blame Geoff. Yeah SGF isn’t great, but like others have said it’s the best we can do right now after E3 offed themselves. Give it time and I’m sure he’ll manage to find a good middle ground for it he’s always put the community over everything else.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Not me, Geoff represents everything I hate in the industry right now. And he isn't some pawn. He's planned this a very long time. I'd rather have no summer event outside of sporadic directs (which we get anyway) instead of this facade. I thought gamers hated ads? Now we gets ads between the ads we want and we just accept it. Real shame how the industry is. .
@joshuaknox2724
2 ай бұрын
Imagine Keanu Reeves hosted a game awards or atleast Alex Jones.....LOOOL im kidding i'm just sick of seeing jeff's face every year, he thinks he's one of us....but he's not :)
@JeremyBX
2 ай бұрын
Couldnt even get myself to watch SGF. I don't know if it's because I'm an adult with less friends or because the industry really is doing something improperly to a devilish degree. I used to be hyped for the streams of this kind of stuff, but now I'd rather pay $40 to go attend it IRL, not for the show itself but because i can meet with other real gamers.
@yvoi1153
3 ай бұрын
I didnt realise this was a *new channel. Do you have a main channel? Where you discuss topics other than gaming? Either way, have been loving the videos.
@TestingTriangles
3 ай бұрын
Nope, this is brand new and my only channel. I’m glad you like the vids - more to come!
@finixmoon127
3 ай бұрын
You’d be surprised how many new and small channels out there have this level of quality content despite being practically unknown
@MinakoAino2112
3 ай бұрын
I remember dying laughing at the cringe that was mister caffeine we’ll never have something like that again
@ghostly66799
2 ай бұрын
I will say I’ve tried to watch the other show announcements this months and I really hated them all, I will stick with Nintendo Direct cause this is the only show that the games are the best space we can start with big, get lackluster and in the middle they blow our minds after they go back to lackluster and the end is reserved for the big final game anounced
@realalaamona
2 ай бұрын
12:25 game?
@PentagonFortress
3 ай бұрын
Timothée Chalamet got his start in Xbox controller skin videos
@p5rsona
3 ай бұрын
they need to bring back e3 with eccentric people like kudo tsunoda
@chrisbennett1358
3 ай бұрын
I've seen the guy involved in the games industry, but I dunno who the frakk he is. Why is he the gatekeeper at these events?
@BlackViperGX
3 ай бұрын
8:18 I totally agree with this, trying to get notice by Hollywood it's so desperate and i hate when actors show.
@Writing_Gamer_513
2 ай бұрын
My brother in the Arcane; E3 and SGF were both massive advertisements. They have always been massive advertising campaigns.
@raze2012_
4 күн бұрын
Indeed. But there are good and bad ways to do ads. E3 was far from perfect, but I'd still Call it "good" overall. SGF has yet to not disappoint me, meanwhile.
@ar_reactions612
2 ай бұрын
I found this Summers Game Fest even more boring than usual. You’re right, it just feels soulless a lot of the time.
@OhNoAlexxStreams
2 ай бұрын
Very nice video dude!
@The_Zeta_Male
3 ай бұрын
hey man, fantastic video so happy to see someone else actually out there make an attempt to defend e3. sure it wasn't perfect by any means, but it was far better than SGF for al the reasons you mentioned
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