I used to work on the flight deck when I was in the navy. I worked with the Super Hornets daily. It’s always been a dream of mine to fly one of these. While not the same thing, I hope an FPV setup in one of these will suffice
@highalpharc
7 ай бұрын
After crashing 3 jets and about $1600 worth of toys today, I'm seriously considering getting some of the smaller models. I wish this was the single pilot version, since I want to do Maverick's livery and the Freewing 90mm is a Hornet version. I can't wait until they make a 80/90mm Super Hornet and a 80/90mm size F-35!
@Ogivekrew
Жыл бұрын
Bro... So I put an xfly 70mm in mine and it's a beast. I have a video on my page with a GoPro in the canopy. My fav jet
@elijahjackson1134
3 ай бұрын
Yes that is an awesome plane to fly. Aerobatic bigtime. I flew mine and actually wore out the foam lol from flying it really hard. I did install the xfly models 70mm fan to perk it up. I highly recommend this model. But i do agree the finish is rough. FMS would do well to make a lightweight version in 80mm but full flying slab.
@airprok8328
9 ай бұрын
Hornet, always a winner! Beautiful jet and flying!
@stopitdad69
Жыл бұрын
I found this to be a good flier, no bad stall characteristics, and it sounds great. Unfortunately the paint scheme makes orientation a little difficult, and I lost it on flight #5. Anyone reading this, I recommend getting this plane and if you do, add color or decals to see it better.
@jeffbrundt7740
Жыл бұрын
I did mine up in VF-102 50th Anniversary Diamondbacks scheme for just this reason.
@jeffbrundt7740
Жыл бұрын
Love mine. I use a 6s 4000 pack. Fits perfectly and CG is spot on. Not as fast as a 70mm F-16 or Yak-130 but it's definitely locked in. It does seem to fly like a bigger, heavier jet but very positive. FMS did a great job on this one.
@robertchapman7773
Жыл бұрын
Great informative video. I like it when you show the 2 flights ,with and without gyro. It really covers the entire market of flyers that way. When I see a plane that I like flown without gyro, I dont take it in as much since I am a gyro flyer. I thank you for pointing out the imperfections as some of us display our planes, making appearance a factor. The flight itself was fantastic. It reflected the capabilities very well and also the durability. Definitely one I will consider when back in stock. Thanks again Bob
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Note that this jet will fly fine without a gyro *if you're not flying it tail heavy* like we are. Full scale fighter jets are flown relatively tail heavy compared to most RC pilot CGs, which is one of several reasons why full scale fighters are more agile. Getting the CG right and using a gyro to compensate for the CG shift makes your jet perform like a fighter.
@robertchapman7773
Жыл бұрын
@Two Brothers Radio Control absolutely agree. I do like to see the odd plane demo with gyro as it is helpful to those of us that havent gained the condidence in our skills just yet. Great job Jon
@notoo7
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely one of my favorites. Nice flying.
@88lo-90
Жыл бұрын
Hahahaah “let’s cut to the chase “ love it …I’ve had this jet for about 6 months now and it’s definitely a favorite of mine from speed to sound to mechanisms…I was just waiting for your unbiased opinion to prove some naysayers wrong…great job my boy
@COMNAVAIRPAC1998
4 ай бұрын
Love the FMS 18.
@Shauncat1
Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome too
@ahoyskid
3 ай бұрын
Nice. Would love to fly one of these!
@Lilttlejan
Жыл бұрын
I have this jet and I have to say it one of the best jet beside my f22
@SoldierBoy3064
8 ай бұрын
I love it and want one... might wait till I'm not a beginner
@Joe_Zajac
Жыл бұрын
Seems like this would be easier to fly than the FMS Viper 70mm, which has not-so-great stall characteristics. Great video. Looks like a great EDF!
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
The Viper's great for teaching how to handle stalls and avoid them. This one can be thrown around a bit more though!
@benosborne7890
Жыл бұрын
the best thing is that its a 70. they're a bit more expendable and I find that expendable planes make for a more comfortable and fun experience
@ojeezrc
Жыл бұрын
Great flight , I got the 64mm version ,but I bet this 70mm is way better 🗣️💯
@Ajuzu6
Жыл бұрын
Friggin awesome
@madsimoninsky
Жыл бұрын
if you set the plane up correct it will fly smooth without a gyro , gyros are for learners
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the quote. This will go into the upcoming video regarding gyros and why people like you have no idea what you're talking about.
@mrniceguybaseballcards8486
6 ай бұрын
Wow, that its amazing! I’ll guess this is not an entry level model for beginners right?
@TwoBrosRC
6 ай бұрын
Definitely not.
@EngineNoise305
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it needs it but you can get more up elevator authority if you point both rudders inward when pulling up. The drag above and behind the CG and center of pressure will rotate the nose up. The real hornet does this. It would be cool to see how much of a difference this makes in rc.
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
That is something to consider, thanks for the suggestion! We've used it on the 90mm Freewing variant but weren't sure if it was worthwhile for the 70mm.
@EngineNoise305
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC oh cool I have to watch that video. I wonder how much of a difference it made.
@JohnnyCash-pi5hw
Ай бұрын
I MeAn I oWn OnE sO yEaH
@TwoBrosRC
Ай бұрын
🆗
@mach9908
Жыл бұрын
The only reason stops me from buying it is the horizontal stab... FMS should really update with a full-moving stab.
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
They should, but if you get it tail heavy with a gyro you won't really notice it in the air.
@olivierrobert7129
Жыл бұрын
Great.
@travisjacobus3381
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’ve been waiting for this video. Waiting for some better weather to maiden mine. Do you mind if I ask what your AS3X gains are set to? I’ve removed the reflex and am using the same receiver as you 👍 and the stock settings at x1 doesn’t seem to move the control surfaces as much as I’m used to seeing when tilting it around by hand.
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
2x gain, 15 roll, 50 pitch, 10 yaw. It's on relative gains that are controlled by the throttle setting using a curved mix. More throttle reduces gain, less throttle increases it. When flaps are dropped, it produces the most effect around 25% throttle to stabilize the jet during landing.
@travisjacobus3381
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC gotcha! I’ve seen you do the throttle based stabilization on other models! Thanks for the quick response.
@travisjacobus3381
Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed, it can use springs with less tension for the main gear. They are really stiff for my liking out of the box for the light weight of this jet.
@calircpilot4261
Жыл бұрын
I am elated that someone resurrected this great jet. I have mine and yet to maiden it. Very interested on your setups although I paired mine with an 8 channel smart receiver and the original FMS stabilizer that came with it. Note that mine came with reverse thrust which I have set up ready. Can you share your full setups and throws please? THANK YOU!!
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
There's no special setup here - all we're using is 150% throws. Check the chapter called "Rates & Expo" or something to that effect to hear us call it out.
@calircpilot4261
Жыл бұрын
OK, setting mine up to 150% throws, then your expo settings.. I will watch it again. Thanks again!
@ernestostrman5147
11 ай бұрын
Hey Jon. You been using SMC HV packs on almost all FMS jets and they all have Predator ESC. Did you have to program ESC for HV pack. I know few people that had crashes since esc shut down after like 1:30min of flight. It seems ESC wrongly sees voltage and makes cut-off thinking battery is at cut-off voltage. I want to order those pack when they will be available in EU(in few week) but not sure if am gona have problems. Also ordered HobbyWing FlyFun V5 ESC programming card. Thank you for your answer! I ordered this plane form China it should arrive in 2-3 weeks.
@TwoBrosRC
11 ай бұрын
Most of our FMS ESCs work fine with the HV packs we use. The only one that hasn't played well is the ESC in the P-40, which reduces thrust down to 40% after it gets below 15.8v. A simple fix for this is if you hear 5 beeps (4s) or 7 beeps (6s), fly it until it drops below 16.8v or 25.2v and then land, unplug and reconnect, then fly again.
@williamhammond3998
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what AS3X gains you are using or this model!
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Check the comments, we've posted it a few times. :)
@tructran8783
Жыл бұрын
Wow... awesome flying. Do you fly stock F18 and use the stock reflex gyro that comes with the jet? Thx.
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Nope, it's using a Spektrum AR637T via bit.ly/3dCjiuO with self-programmed AS3X gains.
@ltk20
Жыл бұрын
Nice flying! When you added the 637T did you remove the built in reflex? Seems redundant.
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you should always use a single gyro. The AR637T could be used with the Reflex gyro but only if the AS3X system isn't set up.
@ltk20
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC sounds good. I’ve never owned anything that isn’t e-flite. Eyeing some cool birds that you’ve posted on here from other companies, but was curious if there’s a benefit of using reflex over as3x/safe. Looking closely at the f-15 and f-22. Will most likely toss a 637T in either
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
@@ltk20 If you're already using a Spektrum radio, there's no benefit to using Reflex gyros over a Spektrum ARXXX receiver. Forward Programming receivers to adjust them on the fly is an integral part of the Spektrum ecosystem. You don't get that with Reflex, and it isn't as powerful because it can't emulate all of the wing and tail types that a Spektrum gyro can.
@ltk20
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC sounds good, thanks for the good info. Years ago I got a bunch of rides in the F-15 with the same Eglin tail markings on it. It was the first plane I ever got to fly even before my ppl. I’m leaning towards that bird for nostalgic reasons even though the -22 probably flys better. Great reviews on both btw!
@samuelsherwood298
Жыл бұрын
I have this plane as well, but im afraid to do any loops or rolls with it all because i have 2 warbirds , 1 i have as3x only with the spectrum 637 reciever and it will not ,et me do a loop or roll. The other warbird is the same way. So when i try and loop it smacks me right out of it and turns me a different dierection. I have the spectrum 637 in this jet. Is ther anyway to have as3x and have full acrobatics?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/s2mgsol3nWeViYI This should cover it.
@tructran8783
Жыл бұрын
Did you change the stock FMS servos with better servos? If so ? Which servos did you use? Thanks, Sir.
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Nope, they're all stock servos.
@nirlachman007
Жыл бұрын
Great video guys!! How does it feel compared to the FW F-18 90mm? Also Jon, can you please share your AS3X gains for this model? Thanks man ❤
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
2x gain, 15 roll, 50 pitch, 10 yaw. It's on relative gains that are controlled by the throttle setting using a curved mix. More throttle reduces gain, less throttle increases it. When flaps are dropped, it produces the most effect around 25% throttle to stabilize the jet during landing. It handles similar to the 90mm Freewing jet but it's a little more stable at the cost of being somewhat less agile.
@nirlachman007
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC amazing! Thank you for teaching us how to use the gyro correctly. It’s a really game changer
@icyphotons
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC Would you recommend these settings for most planes? is there a reason pitch is so high on the f-18 specifically?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Because it's tail heavy at the CG we're using. Stability is most needed in the pitch axis.
@M4rkmcc21
Жыл бұрын
Jon would u say this and the F16 are different enough to own both or are they similar in flight character but one is better? Just trying to decide which to buy. Cheers
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
They're definitely nothing alike in flight characteristics, at least not at the CG we've used on both jets. The F-16 is still pretty docile even with a 3600 shoved to the back. The F/A-18 is tail heavy with a 3600 at the back. This makes it significantly more fun (and definitely requires a pitch gyro for precision/stability) to fly for us compared to the F-16.
@M4rkmcc21
Жыл бұрын
@Two Brothers Radio Control thanks man. F18 it 👍🏾
@velocistafpv
Жыл бұрын
Jon, how would u compare the flight performance of this to the 80mm E-Flite/FMS F/A-18? I wanted to get the 70mm but my local shop was totally out, so I got the 80mm one instead. The 80mm doesn't have a gyro and I'm looking at putting a Hobbyeagle A3 Super 4 in it (Spektrum stuff aren't available in my neck of the woods, so no AS3X).
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
This is a better jet overall than the 80mm. It has too many problems to recommend. It's a good jet if you want something to look at on the ground, but it isn't something you'd want to fly unless you're willing to put in way too much work to ensure that the stabilators don't come loose, or that the nose gear doesn't get messed up.
@velocistafpv
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC thanks for the honest advice. Saw ur review of the Blue Angels' F/A-18. And yes, I do feel the stabs are somewhat dodgy but hell yes it looks real good on the ground. Will think of something to tell the missus that I need another F-18. 🤣🤣🤣
@parvindersingh1506
Жыл бұрын
Great information 🎉, what is the price?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Open the link in the description.
@redwineisfine
Жыл бұрын
I thought the flight characteristics were great but the canopy lock... the fit and finish... and the lack of takeoff power were a little disappointing I really wish FMS would Would update this edf with better electronics and canopy like the Yak-130
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Lack of power? It had plenty from what we could tell. Fit and finish is definitely an issue though.
@redwineisfine
Жыл бұрын
@Two Brothers Radio Control i crashed mine on the maiden after it was full power down the runway 50-60 yards... nothing like the Yak-130... or the Viper 70mm Love the way it flew.. the rear stabs were amazing with rolls with the ailerons.. but.. man the canopy... i am using packaging tape to secure it now.. Definitely deserves a v2 update.. But i could be wrong
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
It's using a FMS 1900kv inrunner, definitely isn't lacking for power. Did you calibrate the ESC before flying? That would probably be the issue. That or a battery that can't keep up with the power load.
@redwineisfine
Жыл бұрын
@Two Brothers Radio Control yes sir calibrated esc running a 50c smart 4000mAh.. all the same as my Yak-130 and Viper 70mm Hell, i run the smc 5000mAh in the Viper and Yak-130 on Windy Days for a little bit more stability
@samuelsherwood298
Жыл бұрын
Will not try it with this jet because its fast. The warbirds are much slower so 8 can bring it back to me in time, again ,how do 8 keep my as3x and have full acro?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
We're not sure what you're asking here specifically.
@pstarxxx78
Жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos of how to set up as3x and safe on a brand new receiver ? Not BNF. More like a AR10360T
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
SAFE is super simple to set up, no video is really needed for it. We go over setting up AS3X in several of our setup guides. Whether the receiver is BnF or not doesn't matter, the process is identical for a new/unlocked receiver. kzitem.info/news/bejne/x4aIq4xskWOGbJw
@pstarxxx78
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC the reason for asking is. When I set mine up. The as3x won’t turn on unless I add value to the heading. I watched Brian Phillip set one up and he didn’t put anything in heading and it was working. However, another KZitem guy had the same issue. He found he had to add value to heading. I checked 2 of my Bnf planes and they have zero in heading. Therefore I’m a bit confused and concerned I’m doing something wrong. Here’s the video I’m referring to kzitem.info/news/bejne/pH5sn55ng31oiJg
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
@@pstarxxx78 Contact Horizon support for assistance here.
@pstarxxx78
Жыл бұрын
@@TwoBrosRC u know. every time i complain to you about something. All of a sudden what ever it is starts working correctly. Either its 🍀🍀. Or your part of the matrix. If your part of the matrix, I need some winning lottery numbers. Thanks.
@qnoorani
Жыл бұрын
cab you show the battery placement?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
As far back as possible.
@qnoorani
Жыл бұрын
@Two Brothers Radio Control Thanks for the reply. I tried that however it made the plane tail heavy. The plane is completely factory and with out any armaments to make it as light as possible. I'm using a spectrum AR637T with as3x enabled. moving the battery forward makes it difficult to rotate off of grass. Battery I'm using is spektrum 6S 3200 smart battery. Any suggestions?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
@@qnoorani We did mention that we're using a lot of pitch gain to compensate for the tail heaviness. Try that!
@flyingfools47
Жыл бұрын
What AS3X gains and sensitivity do you use for this
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
2x gain, 15 roll, 50 pitch, 10 yaw. lt's on relative gains that are controlled by the throttle setting using a curved mix. More throttle reduces gain, less throttle increases it. When flaps are dropped, it produces the most effect around 25% throttle to stabilize the jet during landing.
@iknoor1521
Жыл бұрын
Is there any way you can put a G meter, so that we can see how my G force a rc plan can pull ?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
It already has one. You'll hear it call out in the vid.
@randomstatements8034
Жыл бұрын
How did you get a g meter
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
It's part of our AR637T receiver: bit.ly/3dCjiuO
@GlobalDefenceForce_694
Жыл бұрын
*where to buy? *
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Link's in the description.
@jimmymarockircstuff2289
Жыл бұрын
Will it fly off of grass?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, if it's low-cut grass.
@ramlidon7520
13 күн бұрын
I want to buy these product but I Don't have any money
@TwoBrosRC
13 күн бұрын
That's unfortunate.
@abundantwealth-vy5bn
2 ай бұрын
'...Remotely done with this thing' ba-dum-dum
@abundantwealth-vy5bn
2 ай бұрын
Little RC humor?
@TwoBrosRC
2 ай бұрын
lol
@larsulrich3356
Жыл бұрын
How do you think an f-117 flight controls are mixed?kzitem.info/news/bejne/pq2Br36qiomdmH4 I am thinking about getting one when they're available. Yaw controls?
@TwoBrosRC
Жыл бұрын
Try Googling it - there's probably a wealth of info on it.
@markomalley4442
10 ай бұрын
Interesting that you say that anyone who says they can fly this plane with extended throws and aft cg without a gyro are 100% wrong. Very arrogant assumption to make there. I recently got this exact plane and am using a ar620 with no gyro with 150% rates on elevator and aileron with 55% expo. Mine flies very smooth. Im using a 4000 pack which could be a little heavier than yours. I also have about the same amount of flying experience as you and have used gyros since i started. Only recently have i started moving away from them. They help slightly in the wind from what ive found and also noticed the plane is more responsive without stabilization. Ive watched lots of your videos but you should really tone down the arrogance. You're not the only one out there doing extended rates etc you just might be one of the few posting youtube videos about it.. youll never get a true feeling of how stable the plane flies with a gyro in it..
@TwoBrosRC
10 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, gyro bad. Expo bad too. Anything new bad, everything old good. We get it.
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