And to think you once thought you could actually beat Serral LMAO how cringe
@uThermal
Ай бұрын
I think my homie missed a video last week
@blinkanddie3397
Ай бұрын
Living up to the name Haterade
@Xennmaster
Ай бұрын
He beat Serral, but I feel bad for everyone in your life because you seem like the type to beat them. uThermal beats grandmasters while constantly countering himself with these fun games he plays for us; you should be more grateful that you have so much content to consume from someone so knowledgeable about the game.
@cole-nq1ru
Ай бұрын
uThermal is space jesus
@booshmcfadden7638
Ай бұрын
I don't think I've seen someone get ratio'd on YT since they took away the dislike to protect the media.
@ConflictZv
Ай бұрын
The ling swarm in the last game was so sick! Props to the opponent for hanging on and fighting it out!
@sellis2819
Ай бұрын
31:40 those drones trying their best to help out
@dajosh42069
Ай бұрын
Really great games, but the third was fantastic. That's some of the nost fun in SC2 for me. It's not fun when you're completely overwhelmed and lose after one bad engagement. But the games where you ALMOST lose many times over, but manage to claw your way back and eventually win is PEAK fun, in SC2. :) Another fantastic video, my dude!
@niklosupinfo
Ай бұрын
Hello @uThermal. Great video as usual ! Here is a little SC2 quiz and facts. - Roaches with tunneling claws change skin (you taught me that one) - A colossus can be shoot by vikings and corrupters, so, it is a "flying unit". Considering that, can you parasetic bomb it ? - If you neural an overlord, do you get the supply from it ? - Considering a PF has a range of 6 (7 with high sec), how is it possible for a sieged siege tank (7 range) to shoot at SCVs reparing the PF (so those SCVs are at a range of 7+1 = 8). (and yes beleive me it happens and Blizzard never ever corrected that "bug". That all for today !
@BuddyWudzyn
Ай бұрын
ahhh yeah, my favorite series, I think there is a lot of potential in this anytime you can get up to adrenal glands
@SCoraccioIV
Ай бұрын
Second game, if you get more spines at the choke points, swarm the lings so the roaches can't fight the spines without just getting pecked to death I think is the answer. Also proxies? if you know you're just getting all in'd might as well try something cheeky
@ssstegel
Ай бұрын
Love this serie, and love your insights and improvement!
@user-nq5cz8wo7b
Ай бұрын
Glad you managed to find the way to beat the hellions with the neural parasite. This was a little frustrating to watch as well as you were so far ahead :)
@IcariumGaming
Ай бұрын
That second game was mostly lost by taking the third base in that location. It allowed a choke, which decimated your army at the end. Destroy the rocks at the fourth, you normally avoid this base because of all the entrances but the wide open area benefits zergling swarms. And yes, more spines.
@balazsfenyes3880
14 күн бұрын
roaches hard counter zerglings because they have 1 armor, tanky, ranged and can stack up into a ball.
@HappyTwoBe
Ай бұрын
20:20 More spines, and maybe infestors may have helped this game. I think don't go for 2/2 when his all-in starts, get infestors instead.
@Zamiroh
Ай бұрын
So one thing i would absolutely recommend is upgrading your units. You played a 21 minute game with only 1/1 no adrenal lings. Focusing on only 1 attacking unit and barely upgrading them. I know the armor upgrades dont help a ton against blue flame, but its still worth it to get the upgrades. Just my humble opinion.
@Jashinthegiant
Ай бұрын
40:51 well, you might be 600 IQ, but the opponent is at 1000. He knows, if he EMPs your infestors, they are just as useless as lings against hellbats, thus completing the hardcounter
@_n_l_
Ай бұрын
That neuroplay in the last game was great
@foxs49er
Ай бұрын
If the challenge is called Ling and Infestor to GM, then you should be able to make banelings. This might help with some of the builds' weaknesses.
@balazsfenyes3880
14 күн бұрын
banes are not lings, it's like making zergling and ultralisk is the same because they both come from larva
@foxs49er
14 күн бұрын
@@balazsfenyes3880 BaneLINGS. It doesn't say zergling infestor to gm it says LING infestor to GM. That's what I was getting at. Not where the unit came from.
@PastaAnimal
Ай бұрын
What a banger that last game was! I think a fast hive for 3/3 and adrenal glands could be beneficial for that many lings, but I trust your judgement on that
@propeacemindfortress
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't believe if I hadn't seen it.
@evanelistjuzef9067
Ай бұрын
Listening to your commentary sounds so good for my brain... I feel like sc2 is such a good game for people with ADHD you just do soo much stuff at the same time your brain never calms down
@leafykille
Ай бұрын
Wow, that last match was astonishingly close! Great games as always, thanks:)
@Supergoon1989
Ай бұрын
Massive respect to NonidTunhnow in the last game, I would have ragequit ages ago when all 3 of my bases were being ravaged by lings. he kept his cool, and played really well after that and actually made a really good game of it. GGWP to you both!
@Supergoon1989
Ай бұрын
The fungals were perfect! *chefs kiss*
@reshavalentine1437
Ай бұрын
those hellions - It's mine now!!!
@balazsfenyes3880
14 күн бұрын
Every time an infestor takes over an enemy unit i'm having Carbot wibes.
@party4keeps28
Ай бұрын
If you gather minerals with a drone and then morph that same drone into a hatchery before dropping them off, do you receive the minerals?
@Nekoyashiki-san
23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the fun! ^^
@MrLincoln87
Ай бұрын
That was nearly the death of you there I'd love to see you have a "tap-out" kinda deal - where if its 99% lost - throw the strat out and do whatever you need to do to win it I swear there's been some games where if you just made unit-X you would have won
@Imevul
Ай бұрын
In the second game, would it have been possible to ignore the roaches and do a base trade? I'm thinking +2atk on the lings and then when he starts his second push you run around his army. Seems he did not build as much structures as you, so with the right timing the lings would get to his base faster, and fewer structures to kill? (I'm a complete noob, so might be a stupid idea.)
@Azzurite
Ай бұрын
Please don't forget to update the playlists :)
@kardrasa
Ай бұрын
Holy moley that zerg dropperlord harassment was insane!
@rhyvehr
Ай бұрын
Yo that infestor game at the end was gold. Holy macro
@piotrek7628
Ай бұрын
I really like the: "call GG, comment game with, write GG, leave" 👌19:47
@Ampersand38
Ай бұрын
Gotta neural the medivacs to heal your own units!
@XuancongWang
Ай бұрын
At 20:00, if you have some infestors, will it change the story? I think after you killed his base, you can start making infestors.
@Tsnafu
Ай бұрын
I was exhausted just watching that
@xxScullheadxx
Ай бұрын
I think the second game may have went better if you had kept pushing after killing the 3rd, either fighting those reinforcement roaches or run past and kill the mineral line in the main. Retreating gave him too much time to rebuild. But yeah that was quite a good example of why fighting roaches in chokes with lings doesnt work
@ruhrohraggy1313
Ай бұрын
I understand it's a good habit to have a worker grab minerals before building the first expansion with Terran and Protoss, but isn't it a waste to do it with Zerg?
@chezeus1672
Ай бұрын
if you ever roll this style in a tournament and need to soften the rules against high GMs, up to like 3 ultras would probably do the trick already.
@Abduladilosman
Ай бұрын
Complaining about fully upgraded hellbats hardcountering lings when your ling have 1, 1. Not even adreno glands, what a legend!!!
@Lycam
Ай бұрын
"The fungals are disgusting"
@cho4d
Ай бұрын
add a new rule maybe - when the game is "won" sufficiently and your opponent won't leave because his units hard counter yours, you are allowed to push with static defense (spine, planetary, cannon)
@stevenape377
Ай бұрын
I don't agree actually. If the opponent has lost but is floating buildings or doing something else to draw out their defeat, then sure. But in this case, the game genuinely wasn't lost for opponent: they were correct to hang in there. The question of this series is whether you can win with ling+infestor, not just if you can gain a large advantage.
@Portrial
Ай бұрын
It depends on the understanding of "won". The games showed was that thermy was ahead, but has not yet "won"
@cho4d
Ай бұрын
@@stevenape377 i think the perception that the game wasn't won is in large part due to thermy going baboon mode and throwing armies of lings at bf hellions but i guess it's hard to know in the moment in any case.
@Ash-sd6mv
Ай бұрын
Ngl that's boring and stupid
@dragoslove
Ай бұрын
I'd love to see a random challenge: Casters to grandmaster.
@Jargolf86
Ай бұрын
I dont know how somebody who play Marines DONT tech Combat Shields, not even into Midgame. Especially against Lings and Infestors.
@chir0pter
Ай бұрын
ggwp to NonidTunnow!
@Kirk.television
Ай бұрын
Let's go!
@Knetknight19
Ай бұрын
With the big dropper lords would it be good to have a few banelings in your big push? Im a bronze league player so I have no idea if the baneling best throws off the build order too much to do it
@mphailey
Ай бұрын
Thank you for another fun video Marc!
@kellywarner3235
Ай бұрын
When you are zerg, if you mine and build with a drone holding a mineral does the game include that mineral the drone is holding in the cost of the building? Or do you just lose that mineral?
@Some.Legend
Ай бұрын
I remember losing to this….in Bronze league. RIP to me.
@dpend
Ай бұрын
Why not make some infestors against the second roach push?
@user-mv2nn6rw2w
Ай бұрын
I've a feeling you should rush adrenal in zvz. Not much else you can do against roaches beside praying they split up wrong.
@natecw4164
Ай бұрын
The awesome thing is that the lower brackets clearly aren't watching your channel 😂 Some of these Zerg strats legit leave people frozen 😳😁🤔🤬☠️
@darkalley8595
Ай бұрын
Viking only challenge.
@diazalex5314
Ай бұрын
Maybe allow an ultralisk into the build sonyou can defend against most of the counter.
@maximk9964
Ай бұрын
RRRRRRRRRR is challenge nemesis
@BernhardVoogenberger-tl5ox
Ай бұрын
Why no overlorddrops vs mass roaches? Would it work?
@Daniel-Star
Ай бұрын
Could fast infestors work well against the roach swarm? The problem with the lings is the surface area problem but infestors reverse that.
@catbert7
Ай бұрын
30:40-32:40: Two minutes of terror!
@mr.floppi8275
Ай бұрын
is there a kind of "overlord first build" existing? Something like a advanced ling rush...
@dpend
Ай бұрын
as far as I know, no because there's no reason to make an overlord first, you'll just have worse eco and it doesn't provide any benefits
@expepem189xl3
Ай бұрын
Still think Terrans mech kinda imba against zerg, so we need uThermal game where he shows us how to beat it as zerg!XXD
@Lowak.
Ай бұрын
Lets go Marc!
@maximilianosotomayorga4977
Ай бұрын
Love your work
@jeffbateman3620
Ай бұрын
Ultra memory? Does that mean that it derps out all the time?
@andrewd207
Ай бұрын
Woohoo Love what you do
@pDrake01
Ай бұрын
Last game was much more stressful to your opponent than it to you though. Imagie having to deal with just lings and infestors instead of a variety of units in zerg's tech tree, and still losing. WP!😅
@beardnick1748
Ай бұрын
can u win by just doing pure worker-qeen strategy?ling is like a drone but not so fast and doesn mine minerals
@MycketTuff
Ай бұрын
uThermal meHappy
@Blandge
Ай бұрын
Yesss
@ruslanjonson7502
Ай бұрын
Mass ling are imba :) When you Uthermal everithing is imba
@cyberkekosis
19 күн бұрын
i think you'd have a lot of potential if you decided on killing a roach warren instead of that hatch in the second game. how do you lose to roaches if your opp can't produce them?
@teprox7690
Ай бұрын
nice ❤❤❤
@IvanFazekas
Ай бұрын
how do you rewind the game so fast?? mine takes forever to jump to a middle-point in the game.
@Westerguard1
Ай бұрын
You have to rewind straight after the game without loading the replay, so everything is buffered.
@IvanFazekas
Ай бұрын
@@Westerguard1 ty!
@adamsupczynski5839
Ай бұрын
Hardly, scarcely and barely are negative words and should not be used with not or other negatives like in: I can't hardly believe it.
@Gnolomweb
Ай бұрын
hi
@artemirrlazaris7406
Ай бұрын
20:35, when you noticed the first loss, banneling nest, and spine crawlers, also if you have lots of rss, a macor hatch un seeedd so yo ucan tranverse your drones across to another minign spot, can give you time, enough to make an army, Dark does this alot, since most huamns will not chase the drones as z and focus thehatchery and other things ,epecialyl if there was nevera direct engagemetn nad your drones go ot hte empty 4rth whic his really simpyl a back up third, and larvaproducer, and banneling nest if built when you were worried would allow you to set up a banneling bomb on the roaches. Since lings are fast you can move the roach ball to thedesired location, and most peopel don't build overseers, this requires burrow and bannelign nest... the simplist solution would of been 5 crawlers on the ramp side wher ethe push was coming but he could of moved else where, heance defence not always effective, your queens were not effective doing the ling wrap arounds, missing about 400 points of damage, which would been a fewroches damaged, Queens helping allow you to pick off red roaches easier, as thelongs take hte melee target. You were not in a winning spot or losing spot, but there is a methodlogy that we shoudl awlays take account. Some Zerg players, build cheap builds that areffective... Get 50-60 drones.. then hold the Roach key... and never stop producing.. The first encounter was greatm and the hatch loss, but not quite enough damage, typically to snow ball against zerg if you break their ball and rally points tothe point you push in and z trickles in, at a less effective rate.. Lings would be more effective taking out smaller clusters of roach as it nullies the ball range attack as melee is one v one, verse.. 10 extra roaches attacking and not being attacked..., another interesting thing is deballing units is super effective and its not discussed or used, but burrowing your units nad unburrowing them uneath an army during a surround is really effective, as it pushes out hte units and makes more surface area for your melee units, weakening the benefits of range ballings/clustering.. meh.
@Zamiroh
Ай бұрын
He can't make banelings... it's ling/infestor only
@ERhymesD
Ай бұрын
you needed 5000 IQ, luckily you have 6000 IQ.. unfortunately the IQ went towards sticking to the challenge and not transitioning out of lingfestors.
@redbeard1980cbr
Ай бұрын
Where are the infested terrans
@Breakfast221
Ай бұрын
That first game was super clean. Your zerg play is getting pretty disgusting lol
@somedude1313
Ай бұрын
bro talks like he would lose MORE games if he DIDNT restrict himself to 2 units
@EricK-nm2gg
Ай бұрын
You complain too much at last game. The king infestor is the universe. So when lungs don’t work, infestors can. You arrived at the answer finally so all is good, but the uncertainty nearly killed the game. Gg. Wp!
@TrinityAlex
Ай бұрын
OMG, that last game is painful, just transition to mutas against hellbats... wth... keeping with the lings forever...
@Iseenoobpeoples
Ай бұрын
I wonder how much better this god like player would be if he used hotkeys properly, at one point he had no hotkeys for units like a platinum player, gg.
@glowbug5162
Ай бұрын
that's what F2 is for
@Iseenoobpeoples
Ай бұрын
@@glowbug5162 F1 - FX is best for location hotkeys, using F2 causes so so many mistakes, look at his games, units are going everywhere, he constantly has units were he doesn't want them, every game he has units wandering around. As Zerg you need to hotkey the eggs immediately as you make them plus you need multiple groups for units.
@user-sv4ou5bz7m
Ай бұрын
Why didn't you just switch to roaches or hydralisks in the last game? Right after you destroyed his economy. Or even mutalisks.
@jamiebabycakes
Ай бұрын
*farts cutely*
@RavagHer
Ай бұрын
that last game was super sad. the fact that he almost made a comeback shows how stupid being able to fly ur buildings away...
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