So...they nerf the two skills that people use and don't need to use gatcha for, and neglect to do anything about Energy Field + IT. This seems greedy as hell to me.
@kaironst2969
Жыл бұрын
Dumps trying not to ruin their game (very hard challenge)
@QP_lite
Жыл бұрын
Honestly even though i still don't have IT i agree this seems like an oversight The only reason that grapple and bulma bike were the most used was because they were free, while barrier and IT are obtained through gacha but if they were more common and more ppl had them I'm sure they'd beat grapple and bike in terms of most used active skill
@KAR1492
Жыл бұрын
@@QP_lite Exactly. The main problem is barrier + bike and barrier + IT, barrier should of gotten hit with the nerf if anything. I honestly wouldn't be mad if barrier and one of the base kit abilities got hit as a compromise.
@penitente3337
Жыл бұрын
Given they're based in statistics and the Gacha skills are less common that the free skills, it's more likely a misunderstanding. The change might end up nerfing EF or IT, though, as they'll keep their numbers.
@QP_lite
Жыл бұрын
@@KAR1492 Yeah exactly the reason bike and grapple are op was because of barrier, barrier is the source of the problem yet dimps just ignores it
@OGRazorfangs
Жыл бұрын
Here’s how to nerf Instant Transmission while keeping Energy Field intact, Increase the startup of I.T by 2 seconds so people can’t pair it with E.F
@dr.dapper120
Жыл бұрын
Yeah no, energy field needs to be nerfed. Effectively free invincibility is not a good thing when aiming to make a fair game.
@D4rK86
Жыл бұрын
This!
@angelblue1527
Жыл бұрын
I personally used Zip Line for a month. My biggest peeve with Zip Line is the "Set up" of the pole. It goes far, but adjusting it around while trying to get away with the raider on the tail, its pretty difficult
@noonecares7874
Жыл бұрын
I dont like that they nerfed the two only free skills that can compete with the other gotcha skills. The usage is so high because people dont pull the other good skills
@littleguystar
Жыл бұрын
I’m a little disappointed by the fact that they’re only looking at statistics to make changes instead of listening to the community, but im glad we’re getting some change at all. IT+Barrier is still uncontested though so yikes, still gotta roll for that Gacha I AM glad Bike is getting nerfed though, it gives me a better excuse than just “I want to play a funny build” when I unequip it
@zay9232
Жыл бұрын
I mean it's not that they don't listen at all since there's a raider que and they do polls and Twitter stuff so.
@dylancross1039
Жыл бұрын
If they listened to the community the Survivors would be able to 1v1 the raider outside of Z-change.
@zay9232
Жыл бұрын
@@dylancross1039 they aren't supposed to be able to 1v1 and if they listened to the community they would either nerf Z change or net full power energy volley. Or nerf survivors cuz 70 percent of the time i play Vegeta i get cooked by a lvl 4
@aitorchul2262
Жыл бұрын
@@zay9232 how tf you get cooked as vegeta against a lvl 4 ?
@zay9232
Жыл бұрын
@@aitorchul2262 getting jumped or full power energy volley doing 1/5th of a bar every ki blast
@mousquetaires2009
Жыл бұрын
You sounded so happy when the Lv4 took your Zipline, Gave me a smile As for what i wish for them to do, Reduce the number of stuns to 1 per players, having players running 3+ stuns on one player isn't good, annoying as heck, It's not an question of "Get good" it's the fact that stuns can be chained even if you use your move to break out of the stun
@Cofagrigusfan
Жыл бұрын
Oh dang, didn't expect to be featured in a video! I was the cell raider, ggs! Kinda was panicked on the spot since I ended up realized how little time I had on the machine so I just went for it but that ended in my downfall. Good job to both you and your teammates, you all played well
@islothful2508
Жыл бұрын
I don't have many active skills since I am a new player and I don't spend money on games, so these changes kind of sucks for me because even with those skills I'm dying the second raider spots me and I'm pretty much always can't escape them once they lock on to me, they could adjust better the rarity of skills so everyone could have many different skills and don't adjust the starting ones.
@jesusdiaz4305
Жыл бұрын
There’s an issue with nimbus you might see when others use it: It’s very easy to see across the map and your character calls out “Nimbus!!” quite loud. If you’re anywhere near the raider when you use the nimbus, you better hope you can outrun them because that thing is a freaking raider BEACON. 😫
@samuelt2020
Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely excited to see how these changes shake things up but I hope the buffs are substantial enough to make them worth using
@derrickkelly5108
Жыл бұрын
Excited for nimbus buff and Saiyan pod buff
@martoncsorba
Жыл бұрын
As someone who only used the grapple during the beta's and was hoping for nimbus buffs, I couldn't be any happier
@DeereBorgGaming
Жыл бұрын
They should of just adjusted how long Barrier stays active for, if it goes away a second quicker IT would be useless for it
@derfaddern3552
Жыл бұрын
MY man you are fast. Feels like our match together just happened a few minutes ago :D
@certifiedian3539
Жыл бұрын
I can already see it. It’s might be more dangerous to fight the raider higher in the air. It’ll be better to be closer to the ground so you have more options to escape. The only one that is a little safe to fight in the air is EF, but still risky. I guess it depends on how much grapple is changed.
@AbsoluteMongoloid
Жыл бұрын
They could nerf Instant Transmission pretty easily, by making it take longer to activate, than Barrier's duration.
@dotapazappy
Жыл бұрын
OR and stay with me here we nerf the energy field? Pay2Win best skill in the game. IT is pretty good but is it really better than EF, enough that we need to nerf IT?
@hexxidelux6224
Жыл бұрын
@@dotapazappy I actually agree, here. P2W skills or items aren't just stupidly unfair and a predatory business practice to get younger players to stea- "borrow" their parents' card, but P2W will kill a game like this really quick. It also makes me angry that we had to buy the game if that's how they want to make their money. I hate to admit it, but I would be less nettled about the P2W bs if the base game were free. Even then, I think that's only because we're all kind of used to seeing that kind of thing in MMOs so it's just accepted, but P2W for a game you have to drop $30 ~ $60+ on is something I think we would all love to see go the way of the dodos. 😐
@kunonabi
Жыл бұрын
The real problem with grapple was barrier and the awful camera. All this does is hurt people who don't have barrier. The problem with bike is the barrier and the fact that it lasts indefinitely. Pre-mades are still going to murder while new players are just going to have a tougher time if the buffs don't pan out.
@gabbermac467
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the problem was that some of the gacha abilities were just weaker then grapple and bike, personally I think they should of buffed the other ones to make them more usible, but I also don't blame them for nerfing it, i'll have to test it out myself to see how it feels.
@RoxasOblivious
Жыл бұрын
Over 80% percent usage huh I wonder why it's certainly not because all other movement options are unlocked through gacha and these are literally the only two skills that are not locked.
@thebiss1846
Жыл бұрын
I really wish that they allowed for us to use Sensu Beans when the Raiders drain us. I know it might defeat the whole purpose, but the only way to use a Sensu Bean without issue is if someone is able to distract the Raider & draw them away from us. Which often is super rare unless the Raider is trying to stop a Shenron summoning or the time machine.
@SyperDT
Жыл бұрын
If the zip movement speed is slowed too much, new players will never get away from raiders... Good idea dimps.
@keiishere511
Жыл бұрын
It's just funny to me when it's actually possible to have a mirror match w the raider
@Unknowngoober
Жыл бұрын
oh ya, 80% of the player base you say? you mean two of the FIRST ABILITIES YOU GET, at the START OF THE GAME, without USING THE GACHA, are getting nerfed because they are over used. No ya, that makes sense. That totally makes sense.
@GameAnt123
Жыл бұрын
20:00 This is why I watch Stray 😂 I hope zip-lines become at least B tier, they should be nearly as fast as old grapple speed imo
@lightknightgames
Жыл бұрын
I think the range nerf is the wrong direction, because it's really the only consistent way to get a hidden dragonball in my eyes. Like if the raider hides one on a high island. Obviously there are other ways, but the time investment for it is so much higher with everything else.
@shadowmist9093
Жыл бұрын
20:19 that was a cool zipline
@DerrickMcDanielLucky1391
Жыл бұрын
Time for our Metal Gear Solid 3 salute to a patriot. The Grapple Device
@Grizzy299
Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid I like the buff raider was getting destroyed before
@SnowyEeveeArts
Жыл бұрын
Im new to the game, I just unlocked nimbus 2 days ago so it should be intresting to see how that will do now
@Themasterjtg
Жыл бұрын
Zipline feels hella slept on, as it's cheaper than Grapple (lower cooldown) as well as being a team item over a self item (once deployed, any team member can interact with it) Been using it to increase team movement to the next key/area when one gets set, and it's fun to see others actually take the ride on it, too. This buff'll definitely be fun to use, *if the speed wasn't siphoned from Grapple*
@juliansouto947
Жыл бұрын
It trash even at twice the speed because it can be destroyed by the Raiders and tell them were to look for survivor so yes this update is just bad in every way.
@DeezN464
Жыл бұрын
Something that is not being considered: Since escaping is now harder than ever, why bother? Let's bring all stuns and evasives instead
@TheUltraBulldozer
Жыл бұрын
Can they even nerf Gacha abilities or skills? I had heard there are laws in place that say you cant nerf characters in gacha games becasue people rolled for what they were when they came out and if money was spent they get retroactively screwed.
@wooper-ro8sl
Жыл бұрын
I have a idea instead of grabler doing Yamahas pose I do it all the time and live most of the time
@shadowmist9093
Жыл бұрын
Grapple nerf, but none of the paid skill nerfs is worrying. Hopefully we can find a new meta escaping with skills with start-up
@chJohnJobs
Жыл бұрын
me who already used zipline cause it was a great skill under the right circumstances
@SomeBeatz000
Жыл бұрын
The sky gets darker when the lvl 4 raider does a powerful attack. That was Perfect Kamehameha
@popcornlieutenant
Жыл бұрын
They need adjust how hard it is to get actives and passives. The drop rate is way too low for them to be dropping new things as slow as they do... Zipline is gonna stay not being pick after the update settles and unless they DRASTICALLY increase the speed of Nimbus and Missile, those arent going to be picked either. Nimbus probably still wont get picked because its just a fun skill to fly around with.
@lowkeyedgy4055
Жыл бұрын
I really want to see a Zipline meta. Zipline is really good and has an insane range if you set it up correctly, but how easy to see it is and the slow speed made it not really great, so pretty good buff choice. But missile and nimbus are not getting the right buffs. You are just screaming your heart out the names, and they are noisy and/or easy to see. Don't see them getting used YET
@Curlylemur
Жыл бұрын
Welp, atleast I stopped using grapple and bike since the start of the season lol. I love the new missle update. I've been using it recently and it's just one of those versatile abilities
@cullenmahoney5051
Жыл бұрын
Barrier auto recovery and grappling hook should be abilities you don't even have to equip to have. Just nerf the cd on them
@hexxidelux6224
Жыл бұрын
I mainly play Survivor, it's my favorite mode. That said, *nerfs were overdue.* But it was fun while it lasted. Time to rebalance. Maybe now I can grind Cell without getting a stomach ulcer. He went from "the scariest raider on launch" to "lol look at this scrub" and while I will admit I normally like to goof around with the survivors as a raider until it's time to fight for the time machine (which I know hurts my chances as raider), Cell has been a migraine to do that with. What I'm saying is, I can't play my playstyle with him like I can as Freeza or Buu. It makes me a saaaaaad green bugman.
@Wombat.Combat.
Жыл бұрын
On my first time summoning I did 10 summons and got barrier. Haven’t gotten anything for 17 since
@gunbladesamurai2683
Жыл бұрын
If they really wanted to "allow survivors more flexibility" then they need to give us more skills. I use grapple and bike because I don't have any quick escape skills. 80% of people are using them because they haven't pulled alternatives. There aren't even many alternatives to start with. Besides IT (not many people have) and saiyan pod (needs to be used preemptively) are there any other escape skills? It takes too long to get 10 tickets only to get all duplicates as things are. I don't mind gacha systems, but they need a valid pity system, a steady flow of pulls, decent drop rates on banners, and something in the game that allows us to have some degree of control in our progression. Most of these changes should have been made before the nerf. Now the skills we do have are worse AND we don't decent replacements. Oh wait, now I can equip swimming savant.
@Handheldstorm
Жыл бұрын
i dont mind the grapple nerf but i hope its not to bad that fact that its both speed and range makes me worry but i hope the missile and zipline buff going to improve them enough to be useful. Zip line never seemed useful to me i looked up the skill and saw how slow you travel with it and said nope and stuck to the floating device and grapple the biggest hope if for nimbus even if i dont own it
@dizzenios1716
Жыл бұрын
we won't really know how substancial it'll be until it's out. It'd be nice we got fresh new stuff for the raiders too.
@EADE78
Жыл бұрын
I’m ready for the nimbus buff
@GamerThaibe22
Жыл бұрын
early squad hype! love your daily vids
@SeanBarlow-gu2vx
Жыл бұрын
I’m just curious I haven’t played in a while but are you still able to get IT or do you have to wait till the banner with it comes out?
@kaiokenn
Жыл бұрын
You can get it. The rate for it will be lower if you’re summoning on a different banner. Just check it next time you’re on
@NiteStrike
Жыл бұрын
It got darker cuz he was using his ultimate
@The-Determined-Ninja
Жыл бұрын
I can't be upset about anything, I can understand _why_ they're doing what they're doing and I feel like it makes sense. Why bother having all these other skills if people only ever want to use one or two, right? (õ∀ŏ;)ゞ
@serzanbe5459
Жыл бұрын
i dont have it and it not comming in the shop i cant even try to get it ..........
@swompy8127
Жыл бұрын
XD sorry about that buu game I am new to the game I was the first one down. I did my best. But it was a good game
@xandergreen9478
Жыл бұрын
This is a shitshow, they took away the one thing I had as a defense against a raider. Winning as a raider is so easy now, there's no point on fighting back as a survivor in my opinion
@jonnygaming6427
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I’m already getting smoked by the raider with these skill, how am I supposed to win now 😅
@Mdiele1
Жыл бұрын
So i need IT and energy field now to do my hit and run shit now great.😢
@tonyredgrave2129
Жыл бұрын
Dang. If they nerf the grapple too hard, this might kill the game.
@user-fi2rc4zv8w
Жыл бұрын
HONEY WAKE UP! STRAY POSTED!
@Knooodles
Жыл бұрын
Bruh the usage is so high on them cause they're f2p and not in the shitty gacha. I'll have to see how this plays out but rly not liking this so far, what little motivation I had to play has gone down even more now
@timothymacpherson7452
Жыл бұрын
They need to buff raider
@flackfam1886
Жыл бұрын
But it’s Thursday
@StrayStream
Жыл бұрын
I used the STM sorry. (I did eventually say Thursday lmao)
@derrickkelly5108
Жыл бұрын
We still gonna be using grapple n capsule bike they goofy ass barely play they own game n have the nerve to destroy survivor like it already wasn't hard enough
@yeeter7348
Жыл бұрын
Day 3 of asking for Japanese Cell
@kbennett365
Жыл бұрын
Just keep nerfing survivors
@gotlitwasted748
Жыл бұрын
Buff kaioken attack my dumbass fully upgraded it and it was a terrible mistake 🤦♂️
@juliansouto947
Жыл бұрын
Free to play is dead.
@user-nn4mc8ge4u
Жыл бұрын
Welp it’s official. I’m dropping the game 😕
@cory6640
Жыл бұрын
same im not even gonna test the waters the wrong nerfs were made and i wont support them for ruining my continued experience
@pixelperfectgaming1996
Жыл бұрын
@@cory6640 i been off that game for a hot minute lmao even season 2 couldnt bring me back
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