It’s quite disturbing to imagine that Thrawn likely procured more of those troopers in the coffins that are being loaded up. He’s got an undead army and the shadow council to back him. If only the new republic believed Hera.
@HolyknightVader999
10 ай бұрын
An Undead Scourge in SW. That would be scary, indeed.
@madelinegarber7860
10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. It’s deeply unsettling to think about. What’s even more unsettling is the idea that he might have a never ending supply of troopers depending on how the magic works and if the troopers are just dead soldiers or actual dead night brothers and or sisters.
@what76485
10 ай бұрын
But they are limited to only as many as their own peoples bodies they have? If they use any body, who controls it? Or is it a brainless do what Cho told mahn type thing.
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
10 ай бұрын
@@madelinegarber7860 Yeah some how i prefer he using clones like in the Book. Using the dead was truly disturbing even though it look cool. Plus the weakness if the night sister get wipe out there go the army. Like last time. I hope thrawn would see this a temporary method.
@Golfballtauchen
10 ай бұрын
@@madelinegarber7860 I think this is a big problem, we all know how it ends. They kill the night sisters, and all the stormtroopers will fall. Thrawn has no army anymore then, thats bad writing, because its lazy writing. :(
@Denjiman-qz9mi
10 ай бұрын
It is actually pretty neat to see Thrawn using the Nightsisters magic after admitting to Ezra in the Rebels Finale that he did not truly understand the force. It shows he is working to perfect a mistake of his from the past.
@Calekoflight
10 ай бұрын
An error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.
@benbot5173
10 ай бұрын
I love that about thrawn: truly open to good ideas and unfamiliar tech, not bogged down by rigid fighting dogma. He’s dangerous because he’s never afraid to play the role of student.
@elpenguinoofmexico1388
10 ай бұрын
cale alrdy summarized it but Thrawn never looked down on the Force. he's worked w/ Jedis in the past and he knows Vader and the Emperor can use the Force too. he just doesnt know how to use it for himself. it wasnt a mistake if he never got to know abt it
@net343
10 ай бұрын
The rebels literally needed space wizards to defeat him, so he has space witches now
@fyfyi6053
10 ай бұрын
Disney's star wars is awful.
@bowenc24
10 ай бұрын
I’m torn between the troopers being undead or not. On one hand Thrawn having an army of undead troopers sounds terrifying. On the other I love the idea of these troopers just being really battle hardened, going through hell and back with Thrawn. The troopers being really efficient and deadly because of Thrawn’s command. He turned them into one of the mostly deadly fighting forces in the galaxy, and because of that, they are fanatically loyal to him.
@VanguardKaiser
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm with this. Also Thrawn did say to Elspeth that they have had losses. I don't see his entire army being undead as why not ressurect those in the caskets as well?! If that's what's in those casket's.
@Cryptorabbi69
10 ай бұрын
I think the caskets that are being loaded on his ship will be the undead army and the troopers on his ship are whats left of his force
@bowenc24
10 ай бұрын
@@Cryptorabbi69 that would be a good middle ground. The undead troopers could be his cannon fodder, used to hold enemies down. While his living troopers could be his hammer, when he really needs something done right he sends them in.
@imperialtrooper927
10 ай бұрын
I doubt it'll make a difference whether we get the former or the latter. Chances are, these soldiers are still just gonna be the faceless fodder that gets cut down by the good guys by a lot because good guys always win. I mean, if they come in smaller numbers, I can see that (quality over quantity sort of thing), but them being an army makes me doubt we'll see these guys being beyond cannon fodder for the good guys
@BravosReviews
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. Making them all just magical makes them LESS menacing.
@aeontars
10 ай бұрын
It's also really terrifying for the New Republic because theoretically Thrawn could just go around to different battle locations from the war and resurrect entire planets of Stormtroopers. He could literally bring the Imperial army back to life.
@kjj26k
10 ай бұрын
Or unlike, as it were. For real tho, this is a paradigm shift in the galaxy. Now not even the dead know the end of the Star Wars.
@Mealstro
10 ай бұрын
Imagine an army comprised of clone troopers, stormtroopers, and maybe even old Republic soldiers(forgot their name)
@BrainiacGaming1409
10 ай бұрын
@@Mealstro They were just called Republic Troopers, same with the Sith Empire (Imperial Troopers).
@Mealstro
10 ай бұрын
@@BrainiacGaming1409 oh ok, thank you
@BrainiacGaming1409
10 ай бұрын
@@Mealstro No problem, Old Republic Era is one of my favorite periods.
@danman6431
10 ай бұрын
I like the idea that they are just normal people who are super well trained from the exile. Making them insanely good solders on top of that having night sister buffs. Would make them thrawns ace in a whole having an actual good army.
@kenjikune2565
10 ай бұрын
Second this. How could you not be absolutely loyal to the best goddamn Admiral in the Empire's history who minimized casualties/collateral at every opportunity while respectfully.
@f4irb4nks57
10 ай бұрын
They are called night troopers for a reason 👀👀
@rKhael53
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, would be much better if their dirty and "fractured" appearance was just due to the battles. Like battle scars that they would proudly display. Showing how much experienced and battle-endured they are.
@f4irb4nks57
10 ай бұрын
@@rKhael53 they are called troopers 👀
@JavierRamirez-li6ne
10 ай бұрын
M v m. Mm lbihb Bonn hbu C. Cc. 😮
@SWDude2710
10 ай бұрын
Ok, now that is one awesome way to bring the zombie stormtroopers concept from the Death Troopers novel into canon like this. (I don't refer to the Blackwing Virus, just zombie stormtroopers in general.)
@neofulcrum5013
10 ай бұрын
Technically the undead troopers were already canon thanks to Star Wars commander. Project black wing still happened and it spread on a planet for a bit.
@dn22731
10 ай бұрын
its not the same
@SWDude2710
10 ай бұрын
@@dn22731 story wise, no, but the stormtroopers being zombies concept, then yes.
@SWDude2710
10 ай бұрын
@@neofulcrum5013 that is true, actually, despite me not being able to use those zombie troopers as I had grown out of the game a while ago, sadly.
@g-manfreezer1998
10 ай бұрын
We need a death troopers movie
@SoupSmith47
10 ай бұрын
I wont lie, I am interested to see how the imperial remnant/Regional Warlords etc. would react when thrawn pulls up with his army of presumably undead NIght Troopers
@TK-4044v
10 ай бұрын
It doesn't make sense that only thrawn survived
@SoupSmith47
10 ай бұрын
@@TK-4044v I doubt that thrawn is the only survivor, but im just saying it would be interesting to see the wider galaxy's reaction to the whole thing
@Czar_Loko
10 ай бұрын
@@SoupSmith47I personally think this is just what’s left. I don’t think there’s many more stormtroopers on board, and what little navy/support personnel are left are at their stations. An ISD usually had 9-10K stormtroopers. I’d say the couple hundred left in the hangar is probably most of what the chimera has at this point.
@skywardkillzone
10 ай бұрын
They would rally behind him and unleash a war to reclaim their birthright. Id suggest reading the Thrawn trilogy which this is based off of (and wrote Luke out of his own storyline)
@mobilizedpanda3795
10 ай бұрын
Yoda in exile: Lives in swamp hut. Obi-wan in exile: Quiet life on Tatooine. Luke in exile: Hiding on a small island. Thrawn in exile: Rebuilds his army even stronger, makes powerful allies, gets someone to rescue him from another galaxy. Still has his ship. What a lad.
@scottrose6483
10 ай бұрын
Ezra in exile: hanging out with Ninja turtles
@jacksonscott3667
10 ай бұрын
Palpatine in exile after (somehow) returning: Builds enormous navy of 10k Star Destroyers that can all (somehow) destroy planets but also can’t fly up.
@cog62
10 ай бұрын
@@scottrose6483fr 😂
@tgiacin435
10 ай бұрын
@@jacksonscott3667to be fair, exegol has some really bad weather that fucks with sensors
@DgardsGaming
10 ай бұрын
Disney did Luke dirty compared to legends canon
@JakeTylenol
10 ай бұрын
Every time someone says:”This is dark for Star Wars” I wonder what would ever make them say that. You can see shit like this on Adventure Time
@TheTrollMastah
10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Maybe it’s because it was shown and not told. I think it’s really cool that they’re “zombies”, and what makes it cool is that it wasn’t mentioned or brought up specifically
@ghostramen7002
10 ай бұрын
Hey, Adventure Time could get quite dark, especially for a show geared towards minors.
@depalodor
10 ай бұрын
@@ghostramen7002 "just another goofy episode, filled with silly jokes for kids!"
@Dragonfruits_
10 ай бұрын
Maybe its such a subtle thing because of the style that they never really notice it? I think the difference is it’s emphasized or highlighted here idk
@JakeTylenol
10 ай бұрын
@@ghostramen7002 every action/story based cartoon does that’s why I never understand why people act like “dark subject matter” in kids media is shocking. don’t get me wrong, it’s cool, but I never understood why people act like kids material can’t have dark subject matter you know?
@HitchcockJohn
10 ай бұрын
Admittedly, even if they're not undead (or at least not ALL of them are undead) there seems to be a disturbingly cult-like aspect to these troopers. The chanting makes it sound like they're suddenly viewing Thrawn as something like a messianic figure. It makes some sense with the circumstances as well. Thrawn does seem the type to do whatever it takes to maintain order, and the current circumstances would be favorable to cult tactics. There's something called the BITE model which is used to determine if something is a cult, based on the different types of control used to keep its members in line: behaviour, information, thought, and emotion. The part about information control basically takes care of itself. Being stranded in another galaxy more or less cut off from their own would already limit how much information can reach them. And it would be easy for Thrawn to control how much of what little fragments of data make it through become known. The Empire's also no stranger to behaviour, thought, and emotion control, so Thrawn already has a decent idea of how to handle those regardless of circumstance. The amount of time that has passed since Rebels would certainly be enough to give Thrawn time to distort existing Imperial beliefs to better suit his goals, especially with the lack of other Imperials who might try to challenge him. And of course, while it's not an essential part of running a cult, the presence of Thrawn as a central figure who everyone is expected to give everything towards servingn does resemble a lot of other cults. So basically, it looks like Thrawn took the remnants of his forces and started a cult!
@HisLordsh1p
10 ай бұрын
I kinda got a similar vibe, I think the name Night Troopers implies they've been inducted into some sort of "Cult of the Night Sisters" and the red bands are symbolic of their connection to the cult. It could be that some of them are being compelled by the night sisters magic but I don't think they're full on zombies. Or at least they're more akin to the classic voodoo zombie rather than the walking dead.
@gman9384
10 ай бұрын
He's not the Messiah! He's a very naughty boy!
@shmeg8695
10 ай бұрын
The cult theory would suit Thrawn as a character far better than zombies would. I fully believe Thrawn would prioritize discipline by any means possible as opposed to letting all his troops die. That wouldn’t even make sense if they were all dead, like why would they all have perished but Thrawn stays alive. Odd, I really hope they do him justice, wasn’t entirely satisfied with his performance in rebels, but it is the same writer, maybe I shouldn’t get my hopes up…
@spaceman8935
10 ай бұрын
I am leaning towards thinking they are mostly alive too. It really doesn't take long for a unique subculture to develop when a group becomes isolated from the main group and these Imperials have been at Thrawn's side for over ten years with no reinforcements, logistics or Empire. To them there is only one thing that matters, Thrawn and his plan to deliver them from their exile, of course he would assume an almost god-like status to his men. Their chant to me seems more like an acknowledgement that Thrawn fucking did it, he called for help and they are going home.
@dadian803
10 ай бұрын
@@spaceman8935 Hoping in the next episodes that these troopers wreck the characters and then Thrawn with his tactical brilliance.
@madelinegarber7860
10 ай бұрын
Yeah this was hella creepy. The idea of Thrawn having an undead army is so unsettling and yet not that surprising. Too bad the new republic sucks and is probably drowing Herra and maybe Carson in bureaucracy right now. But I can still think of some people that our heroes could reach out to. The question is if they’d be ready and willing to get involved at this stage.
@marco002
10 ай бұрын
these theories are really starting to be ridiculus.. so they are dead soliders cause their name is night troopers? I guess all of the nightbrothers and nightsisters we have seen in TCW were all dead cause night was in their name also
@derkreuzritter6789
10 ай бұрын
@@marco002 Well, Thrawn has been trapped in another galaxy for...15 years? he would of lost a lot of troops in that time, and Nightsisters are known to use necromancy so the theory makes sense. People saying they're zombies because of them being called night troopers is stupid though I agree.
@marco002
10 ай бұрын
@@derkreuzritter6789 "People saying they're zombies because of them being called night troopers is stupid though I agree." -> This is what I was talking about Btw I'm pretty sure those soldires were recruited (or hell even forced to join) from the planet, just like the first order did with a bunch of kids in the Unknown Regions
@MattOGormanSmith
10 ай бұрын
Does being dead improve their aim?
@madelinegarber7860
10 ай бұрын
@@MattOGormanSmith I was wondering that too lol.
@Luc42
10 ай бұрын
Y'know, I forgot that the Chimaera was a fully staffed warship. So Ezra didn't just banish himself and Thrawn to another galaxy, but thousands of stormtroopers and officers are stranded so far from everyone and everything they've ever known. I don't doubt that Ezra and Thrawn have retained most of, if not all of, their sanity, but what about everyone else? It kind of reminds me of Gallius Rax's plan for the stormtroopers after he declared himself Emperor in the Aftermath trilogy. He brought them to Jakku to make them tougher and stronger, and along the way several either lost faith in the Empire, went mad, or ended up dying of starvation and dehydration. What kind of rules has Thrawn had over the past 9 years to make his remnant what I can only think of as fanatical?
@Fulcrox
10 ай бұрын
Aftermath is trash, and everything related to Gallius Rax is even worse, legit one of the worse written pieces of lore simply because of how few sense they make on the overall universe.
@warbossgrotsmasha23
10 ай бұрын
i bet most of them died when the purrgils transported the ship to that other galaxy and the rest either perished from exposure to that harsh planet or from lack of resources (food, medicine, you name it)...keep in mind that a fully crewed star destroyer has about 37085 crewmen out of which 9700 are stormtroopers, the rest being officers and enlisted personnel
@billybob-zk9nm
10 ай бұрын
@@Fulcroxplus a shit ton of stuff from what i heard got retconned afterwards(read the first book, hated, never finished it)
@helghast1149
10 ай бұрын
You don't even know the Lore you're trying to regurgitate. Gallius Rax brought the Empire to Jakku so they could languish and breakdown in morale over time. He used "strengthening them under the harsh conditions" as an excuse. This is explicitly stated in that trash novel.
@jamesashcroft8170
9 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think most of them probably survived. Yeah, the ship was badly damaged, but it needs a huge crew just to operate one, even/especially one as badly damaged as the Chimera is. I'm sure we're just seeing the stormtrooper in the show.
@rxmmxs
10 ай бұрын
Now just imagine Ahsoka and Mando were the build up for a sequel trilogy and we actually had 3 good movies with a lot of the story already set up instead of the shit Disney gave us.
@thomaswheeler.5330
10 ай бұрын
If only... If only...
@kirbpaign6666
10 ай бұрын
I personally feel the tape is more to keep their armour together, these guys have gone 10 years without a resupply more or less. I can only imagine the trauma and hardships they have gone through in their extended deployment.
@mandarinduck
10 ай бұрын
Zombie army isn't all that dark. It's pulpy fantasy evil that's par for the course with Star Wars. Now, the prison system in Andor, where anyone can get randomly sent to prison for life for no reason, was genuinely horrifying.
@Whatsabird
10 ай бұрын
And when they killed a whole floor full of inmates, y'know so they wouldn't be seen as dumb
@giantlabs
10 ай бұрын
for real, and then you'd be having never-ending dreams of finding light at the end of the tunnel or some variation of it.
@granola661
10 ай бұрын
Yeah star wars generally isnt a dark franchise to begin with, this is very mildly dark, and surely goes nicely to the kiddo theme of rebels and which ahsoka has taken
@helghast1149
10 ай бұрын
...What? You're such a casual locust and it shows. We just want to see loyal Imperials Thrawn. We don't need zombie troopers go back to Marvel you reddit loser.
@rKhael53
10 ай бұрын
Zombie army isn't dark. It's just a boring overused cliché.
@jackskellingtonsfollower3389
10 ай бұрын
As odd as this situation is to me (I'm not a master scholar of EU Star Wars lore), this feels like a step in the right direction. The franchise needs to have more dark and gritty plot points. People who understand and respect the lore too.
@danielefabbro822
10 ай бұрын
I'm working over a total rework of Halo saga exactly for the same reason. While some parts are even more brighter for the "good guys", and the galaxy (yes, the galaxy, not anymore just the Orion Arm) is splitted in half, the "bad guys" are a darker and cruel version of the Galactic Empire. All with alien empires sided with one or another part. Sangheili, Jiralhanae, even fallen Forerunners are precious characters in my new version of Halo. And mostly, the situation is in fact static. I mean, there is balance between the good guys and the bad guys, so they will continue to exist even after the wars. Distances are hort for someone and kept far for the same in order to guarantee coexistance between good and evil.
@rKhael53
10 ай бұрын
You mean boring overused cliché ?
@o-mauler-o3021
10 ай бұрын
I very much hope these aren't in fact dead troopers, or at the very least Thrawn still has some troops that are alive, and deeply loyal to him. If they're all dead, then there's no one to have shared in his exile.
@adambrande
10 ай бұрын
it'd be so unlike star wars to not take inspiration from history. This is literally a Caesar or Alexander the Great moment
@pieman141
10 ай бұрын
The only thing I don't get, is how would Thrawn end up losing all if not most of his troops? I mean sure, over 10ish years, you're bound to lose some, but all of them? Especially on a world you outgun everyone else. I like the idea they've just been cult-like loyal to Thawn and are elite now. Though those caskets are certainly going to be used to build a bigger army.
@reganator5000
10 ай бұрын
presumably he wasn't just on that one world- he still has a hyperdrive, just not the power needed to hop galaxies.
@paulvarda5318
9 ай бұрын
yeah, if they're implying all the storm troopers have been zombiefied that's just stupid.
@ShortCircuitStudios
10 ай бұрын
To me, the eternal army concept they introduced here reminds me a lot of Emperor Qinshihuang's Mausoleum in China. An eternally ready army waiting for their ‘king’ to rise. I feel like there’s quite a bit of synchronicity there. Also the way the troopers look and are standing is a dead-ringer to the terracotta warriors.
@AlyssMa7rin
10 ай бұрын
The Terracotta Army?
@ShortCircuitStudios
10 ай бұрын
@@AlyssMa7rin Yeah, the statues of the warriors guarding the tomb
@AlyssMa7rin
10 ай бұрын
@@ShortCircuitStudios Huh, I wasn't aware that was their purpose. I thought it was a form of burial ritual for the warriors themselves. I remember hearing as a child that they were entombed there for a betrayal, and were forced to stand eternal vigil as a pennance.
@danielefabbro822
10 ай бұрын
Have you ever seen a Roman army?
@ShortCircuitStudios
10 ай бұрын
@@danielefabbro822 Yeah, I have. Why?
@madmaximus581
10 ай бұрын
This was my first impression. The Troopers are undead. They just vibe it. And when Enoch turns around it reminded me of the chronicles of Riddick when the lord co.mander turns around at the beginning of the movie
@river9453
10 ай бұрын
I've noticed the same thing about Riddick. If it's intentional, it's well done and pretty cool
@KCB277
10 ай бұрын
My first thought also. A big hint is their armor. It looks like it has been fixed many times, so eventually those troopers died a few times before.
@river9453
10 ай бұрын
@@KCB277 almost certain they died and were resurrected by the night mothers. And I think Thrawn is trying to bring back more of them, because they speak of catacombs and take something that look like coffins.
@rahl169
10 ай бұрын
The only issue I have is the dirty armor. Thrawn was obsessed with order and attention to detail (both from himself and those under him). While the battle scarred armor is cool, there is no way that Thrawn would have allowed his stormtroopers to leave it dirty like that.
@deathtrooper7760
3 ай бұрын
and thrawn can just pull a fabricator out of his ass to build new armor
@OrangeHistory-nx1zx
3 ай бұрын
@@deathtrooper7760lmao
@timdoyle3028
10 ай бұрын
Wow, I 100% did not get that from watching the episode. I thought they were all stormtroopers in badly beat up armor because, like the Chimera, they've been fighting and taking damage that they don't have the resources to repair for the last 5-10 years.
@n0pamine
10 ай бұрын
I think it's interesting that the red element on the troopers is a somewhat haphazard wrapping, but Enoch doesn't have that, and instead the "skirt" and under suit is where the red is. I'm curious to see what sort of significance that has for the character, if any at all
@PrimevilFuzz
10 ай бұрын
Here’s my crazy fan theory about Enoch. Firstly, Enoch's helmet also has a modified rebreather like Rex did with his clone trooper helmet. We've yet to see any helmet like this. (More clone style.) Also, Commander Cody stayed with the Empire after order 66. He was amongst his troops and then was no more. Thrawn saw his loyalty to the empire and renamed him Enoch which means dedicated, trained and disciplined. I would say for you to turn on your brothers and the republic that shows dedication. Secondly, even crazier I would love to see an original Dathomirian Zabrak warrior in that stormtrooper armor but still able to use the force like a night sister, would or Maul. Filoni loved Maul, and so did the fans. It would be an homage to bring a force wielding Zabrak back. He also has a double red empire insignia on his helmet that remind me of horns. Lastly, Thrawn sent away a human named Eli Vanto to help with the chiss ascendancy. I don’t know how he could connect into the situation, but he was Thrawn’s number 2. And I couldn’t help but thinking of Eli when he said Enoch, which, if we’re going off of biblical terms, which Dave Filoni loves to do, Elijah and Enoch both ascended to heaven and were no more. In the book’s Eli mysteriously vanished from the empire. As you say "He walked the Earth and then was no more, God took him." To these troops, Thrawn is their God. Enoch’s book was also removed from the Bible. It's poetry, it repeats itself. Also the red and black clothing the night sisters wear are very reminiscent of the first orders red and black flag, the final order's Sith troopers armor, and even Palpatine was garbed in red and black. Maybe Thrawn's return with the night sisters was the key to unlocking Moff Gideon's force sensitive cloning process and as to why his fleet was so massive, thousands raised from the dead or cloned in secrecy. P.s. When Eli was sent to the Chiss ascendancy they shortened his name from Eli Vanto to Ivant because they could not pronounce his name correctly, same as did Thrawn with his name so others could pronounce it. Could Enoch be a shortened surname, based on the Chiss using the last letter of the first name and the first 4 of last name, as the Chiss did with his original #2? Ivant and Enoch both 5 letters... Thrawn trying to cling onto some Chiss pride when he hasn't seen them in so long.
@patrickjohnson5245
10 ай бұрын
I like the concept, but it's revealed in season 2 of The Bad Batch that Cody deserted from the Empire, after showing clear signs of regret and remorse for carrying out Order 66.
@michaeltodd6731
10 ай бұрын
Your speculative analysis is most impressive. Thanks for the detailed explanation. I’ve learned new information from this
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
10 ай бұрын
The theme from the moment the Chimera showed up to Thrawn is glorious.
@accessdenied5998
10 ай бұрын
I think the nightsistets just extended their life and not completely undead, but they do degrading slowly
@cane6074
10 ай бұрын
Thrawn commanding otherworldly forces makes him more of a threat, because he understands what the force truly is, combined with his military genius now makes him a even greater threat.
@eianfederle2715
10 ай бұрын
I would say this is "dark, even for disney". Star wars should have dark undertones for serious events like this but disney being disney likes to water down these sorts of tones. Andor was a good stepping stone away from the disney way.
@theguardingdark1183
9 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed is how the gold veining on the armor looks very much like the Japanese art of Kintsugi (literally, gold seams). They take broken objects and repair them with gold wire melted in to the broken seams to repair it. Seems like they are showing this as resurrecting and repairing the dead to again server.
@wizard680
10 ай бұрын
Wait...what happened to his living troops? What happened to the rest of the fleet? Who has thrawn and the night sisters been fighting and losing against?
@justintaylor1713
10 ай бұрын
The rest of the fleet is back in the original galaxy. Hence why Paelleon was at the Shadow Council meeting. It’s also entirely possible that all of these stormtroopers are still alive as, until we see green smoke come out of them when they’re killed, it’s so far just a theory that these are reanimated soldiers
@Jerhevon
10 ай бұрын
@@justintaylor1713 I like the idea though. Like if it was just soldiers roughing it, I might expect the armor to be dinged and cracked, but not quite so blemished. But to have them reanimated makes perfect sense. The troopers within every much a broken and hollow shell as their patched up armor.
@cragler
10 ай бұрын
What do they eat? There’s nothing on that planet to eat.
@danielefabbro822
10 ай бұрын
The star destroyer can carry just two years of supplies... they was there for 11 years. But yeah, the planet seems to not offer that much in terms of food. Still there's at least one possible source of sustaining in that dark corner of the universe: the space whales. And Thrawn have a star destroyer. It's a personal theory, but if I was in Thrawn, I would have tried this card. But maybe he did it and it not worked out, who knows?
@wizard680
10 ай бұрын
@@danielefabbro822 he needs to have some sort of facility that can transfer the whale stuff into hyperdrive fuel.
@shadowtrooper262
10 ай бұрын
Would that also mean the fallen Death Troopers, Royal guards, officers and engineers in that Chirmera back in the final season of Rebels also have night sister magic in them?
@sovietbear5084
10 ай бұрын
I reallly hope to at the Night Troopers are just battle hardened veterans that have a cult devotion toward Thrawn and have taken culture from the night sisters to boost that devotion, the feeling of zombies following Thrawn instead of Troops that are loyal just doesn’t fit his respect that he brings.
@kevinkruse88
10 ай бұрын
Perhaps some of Death Troopers is getting adapted in to here? The empire was working ona bio weapon, maybe there was a lab on the Chimera that had that work going on
@Sigma-gb9yd
10 ай бұрын
I really hope they aren't undead, and instead are just battle-hardened stormtroopers that had to use what they could find to repair their armor. Red cloth provided by the Nightsister's that is enchanted with magic to be resistant to blaster fire would be a neat touch.
@patrickjohnson5245
10 ай бұрын
I don't know if they're undead, or they're empowered by Magick. If Thrawn procured dark magick to empower his army, and make his soldiers stronger, then his troopers would almost be fanatically devoted to him, and his cause.
@f4irb4nks57
10 ай бұрын
The troopers are actually called “Night troopers” they are 100% undead or controlled by the night sisters magic
@HouseClarkzonian
10 ай бұрын
If they'd be alive their armour wouldn't be so destroyed/repaired. yes field repairs happen but for them to be called "Night Troopers" is tell-telling signs they are dead.
@glitterboy2098
10 ай бұрын
@@f4irb4nks57 we have had nothing to indicate what they are beyond the name right now. the supposed undead status is pure fan speculation, albeit a popular one. but then a lot of people though Marrok was going to turn out to be starkiller or Ezra, so fan speculation is often wrong.
@f4irb4nks57
10 ай бұрын
@@glitterboy2098 they are called night troopers in the show with subtitles on. They are most likely troopers controlled by the night sister magic
@glitterboy2098
10 ай бұрын
@@f4irb4nks57 you'll notice that i said the name is the only thing that we know for sure. literally everything else is speculation at this point. and a name change does not automatically equate to magic being involved, or undead status.
@danielbalderrama4137
10 ай бұрын
That dosen't make much sense with what Thrawn said later in the episode. "During our exile we suffered losses". If that were true why didn't the nightsisters revive those troops that were dead. Seems like an unnecessary handicap. What i think happened is that the nightsisters enhanced those stormtroopers capabilities which is why thier now called night troopers. Also why Thrawn has a limited supply of them.
@jeffgodden7968
10 ай бұрын
Perhaps six others have already made a connection, but a much older Disney property "The Black Hole" had a mysterious commander on a distant location commanding a crew of the undead (sort've) too.
@zidanerizalalghifaryalghif3248
10 ай бұрын
Id still believe that these troopers are still alive like they survived the journey but the way they act like that is because there loyalty to thrawn for their survival which obviously they couldn’t do, i mean not all of them are dead there could be still alive considering thrawn survive hyperspace with the chimera’s bridge being open because if the whales
@TheGeneralGrievous19
10 ай бұрын
Grand Admiral Thrawn's Entrance was both epic and eerie at the same time. This was my favourite moment of the episode. 💙 The Night Troopers tho. 😨
@Greenwood41
10 ай бұрын
I like the Kintsugi aesthetics on the Night Troopers armour. Like broken ceramics given new purpose with gold lacquer, dead troopers are given unlife with Night Sisters magic
@ultimateninjaboi
10 ай бұрын
I love that, whether theyre the remaining living troops, or an army of undead, theyre still DEEPLY compelling (at least to me).
@briantrent1155
10 ай бұрын
Back in the day star wars was very dark. Even the tuskin raiders were scary. Vader unknowingly tortured his own daughter and knowingly cut off his sons hand. Disney is who turned it into g rated. Glad to see them go back to making a good show. This, mando and andor is great
@DannsProductions
10 ай бұрын
Give credit to Dave Filoni for writing this episode and bringing back the lore of Star Wars.
@averykoch4553
10 ай бұрын
Ewoks?
@russianinvader3207
10 ай бұрын
Andor is meh imo.
@itsmike2736
10 ай бұрын
The Imperial Remnant to the New Republic be like "READY FOR ROUND 2?!"
@michaelandreipalon359
10 ай бұрын
Zombies and necromancy are still tiresome to me, so the fear factor is lost to the old guard.
@mellie2003
10 ай бұрын
Debunked just one terrible episode later..
@openwaters2988
10 ай бұрын
Aragorn: arrives to save the day with three corsairs full of an undead army Thrawn: hold my glass of blue milk
@howmaneverton9630
10 ай бұрын
you wana know whats dark? Ahsoka force compelled an entire pod of spacewhales into an early grave and she did not even hesitate doing it.
@kozaamovies1779
10 ай бұрын
I don't think they are dead, if they were he propably would just give Baylan more reinforcements and not complain about casulties. Since he could just ressurect them one more time, collect some new dead bodies etc.
@AndrewH1220
10 ай бұрын
They definitely are why would thrawn want a living army and since they're called night troopers there's no way they aren't dead
@atari947
10 ай бұрын
@@AndrewH1220 A living army can provide insight and input, things he wants.
@AndrewH1220
10 ай бұрын
@@atari947 same with the dead
@focuscelt7610
10 ай бұрын
It's probably obvious, but since I haven't seen anyone point it out, I just want to share my two cents. I like to think that the red rope wrapped around the (night) stormtroopers is where they were formerly sliced open by Ezra using his lightsaber, and it's basically used to keep their lost limbs together with their main bodies.
@dmitrykhvostik5975
10 ай бұрын
*_"Even in death, I still serve"_* - Dreadnought. Warhammer 40k.
@carlosalvendia5860
4 ай бұрын
FOR THE EMPEROR
@user-it3gp4vm1z
4 ай бұрын
Theres a clear divide between force and non-force peoples in SW (especially in Andor) and too see both peoples working together is very interesting
@AceSpadeThePikachu
10 ай бұрын
One might say...Thrawn has an "Evil Dead Army of Darkness." Things are about to get...groovy.
@Kickmon
10 ай бұрын
I think this theory is added by all the grime and dirt on the stormtrooper armour. We've seen grubby looking stormstroopers before post-Empire, but you would have thought that out of all the Empire's troops, Thrawn's would be the most disciplined when it comes to things like armour maintenance and presentation. Especially when Thrawn's uniform itself is still immaculate.
@tspencer227
10 ай бұрын
Ten years is a long, long time to be deployed to a remote location, with no opportunity for resupply, replacements, or anything to look forward to as a morale booster to keep the troops (and crew of the Chimaera, for that matter) as a morale booster- this is something that I feel has consistently been overlooked with regards to Imperial Remnants in all of Star Wars, honestly. To that end, I wonder how many of the bandits we saw are deserters from his crew, or how many of his own troops he ended up executing as examples to the others (thinking about the poor LT who was made an example of after the unfortunate tractor beam incident in 'Heir to the Empire').
@Uratz
10 ай бұрын
How can the Undead soldier "dwindled in Numbers" that Trawn doesn't feel he should spare more soldiers in looking for Sabine/ Ezra?
@brodi0351
10 ай бұрын
They’re not dead. They have fabric wrapped around their armor to repair it. They’ve had the same gear in exile for years with no resupply. I believe they do have dead nightsisters in the coffins though, and plan to resurrect them, similar to what we saw in The Clone Wars
@slicer940
10 ай бұрын
I think it’s a possibility for troopers who may have died if the ship crashed or arrived at its destination. But I think they may also have done this as a tribute to those that saved them.
@VersedFlame
10 ай бұрын
I have to admit the idea came to mind when I saw their demacrated armors and heared the commander's voice, but I had kinda forgotten nightsisters could do that, it makes so much sense. It's pretty cool that Star Wars has that kind of creepy details for the keen eye.
@charlessaint7926
10 ай бұрын
If the Stormtroopers are zombies, what happened to the crest of the Chimera crew?
@admitrashchuk6411
10 ай бұрын
I have an extra layer to this theory that makes it even more creepy. I thinks it’s totally possible Thrawn massacred the whole contingent of his star destroyer once he learned he could resurrect them with nightsister magick. It is highly unlikely that a world as barren as Peredia could sustain all these troops for over 10 years. Thrawn knew this and made a strategic decision to preserve resources.
@colesutra
10 ай бұрын
Just so long as he doesn’t break out Blackwing.. Cause on the one hand, Thrawn’s too smart to do something that dumb. On the other hand, if there’s anyone who could figure out how to use Blackwing effectively, it’s Thrawn.
@StormEagle5
10 ай бұрын
I find the chanting and kintsugi armour very goofy.
@SpottedHares
10 ай бұрын
Just like all the Night Brother and Night Sister having Night in front of you name means you no longer alive, i mean every Night Brother and Night Sister we met are undead right?
@gbozzi05_
10 ай бұрын
What? The only undead Nightsisters we met are the zombie ones brought back through magick from The Clone Wars and Jedi: Fallen Order.
@beangrff
10 ай бұрын
In the end they just ended up being normal storm troopers with red ribbons lmao...
@SmugCanadian
10 ай бұрын
The rometrooper is probably the best design since the clone troopers for me.
@erikvarela2045
10 ай бұрын
The undead army is an interesting spin on the clone army from Heir to the Empire/OG Thrawn trilogy. I wouldn't mind seeing more elements from Zahn's novels cropping up in a reinterpreted form like that, as long as it's executed well.
@matthewst537
10 ай бұрын
The way they called Sabine stinky oh my goodness
@wolfen8619
10 ай бұрын
Notice how the stormtroopers armor design is really similar to the one in Rebels, its especially visible when you look at the helmets, basically the art design of the Rebels stormtroopers has been adapted to live action
@creativeusername3408
10 ай бұрын
No - it’s identical to original Star Wars stormtroopers
@daniels7907
10 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed is that Thrawn is the only Imperial on the Chimera that we see who isn't wearing a helmet. Normally there would be officers in standard uniforms. This adds to the suspicious nature of the situation. Why are these Nighttroopers the only personnel that we see? I can't imagine somebody like Thrawn not wanting to be able to look his crew in their faces.
@CaptainM792
10 ай бұрын
The officers are probably on the bridge, waiting until we see them.
@daniels7907
10 ай бұрын
@@CaptainM792 - Every last one of them? Even after the ship was docked at the tower and the Nighttroopers were loading the caskets? We see Thrawn looking at a map of the galaxy with Morgan, but no officers.
@WallNutBreaker524
10 ай бұрын
"What was once just a dream has become a frightening reality for those who may oppose us."
@benmacleod7000
10 ай бұрын
SW Death Troopers was such a great novel!
@CGFMovies
10 ай бұрын
[Insert Spongebob and Patrick riding the kiddy rollercaster image]
@jacquecortez5014
10 ай бұрын
Nah I thought they just very experienced storm troopers under Thrawn's command.
@tsancio
9 ай бұрын
Good to see that Star Wars has new ideas and is not just going for nostalgia.
@Bongarelli
9 ай бұрын
Spongebob and Patrick on Rollercoaster with baby reaction
@cyber_robot889
9 ай бұрын
This so dark and grotesque so servitors left the chat...
@freepoco2
10 ай бұрын
Look out we’ve got 100 dead guys and 10 tie fighters
@ramonzapien3098
10 ай бұрын
Makes sense and a cool way of bringing in the old version of death troopers from legends that were actually zombies created by the rays of an ancient Sith technology
@zetafae4124
10 ай бұрын
I am jaded but this is the closest Star Wars will match the tone of Legends.
@mememaster147
10 ай бұрын
I like the kintsugi-style repairs to the armour
@JaxonJaker
10 ай бұрын
One way or another, these troopers look like they have been through some heavy sh*t. It is a stark contrast to the clean chrome look of the empires storm troopers, or even the new crisp look of those commandos from the mandolorian.
@toysmostwanted
10 ай бұрын
Giving themsekves the license to mow down troopers with light sabers 😂
@33482
10 ай бұрын
Casual tuesday afternoon in Warhammer 40k
@landonmckinley6250
10 ай бұрын
I want them to be alive and actually DEADLY. They’ve spent years fighting, surviving, and training. They should be stronger than an average Stormtrooper. I hope they actually put up a fight and aren’t just used as canon fodder. Note: Stormtroopers are the elite soldiers of the Empire. We see in Solo what “regular” soldiers are used for. Stormtroopers are ALWAYS going against the main characters so they look stupid and pointless, much like droids. Let’s remember than these are normal humans going against Jedi, bounty hunters, guerilla fighters and more often than not, main characters. Of course they are going to “look” stupid. They were so accurate they missed shots on Luke, Han, and Leia just so they could find the rebel base but “look” like they were trying to kill them. We NEED DEADLY Stormtroopers.
@ionatanmacbhaididh5736
10 ай бұрын
I wanna see some storm troopers like the ones we saw in the first movie when they just destroyed the rebel's on the Tantive IV
@thelastkiwi
10 ай бұрын
The darker the better. We need this. Star wars was always dark when I was younger.
@pyerack
10 ай бұрын
The Sequel trilogy would've been a lot better if these had been the main antagonists instead of just "Empire 2 but slightly different"
@user-oc6re8yb2m
10 ай бұрын
I wonder if those troopers are able to shoot more accurately now that they're dead 🤔
@michealsoh8432
10 ай бұрын
Me a warhammer 40k fan watching as drukhari brutally mutilate,deform, revive, and turn their captured slaves into gigantic walking undead soldiers: This is nothing.
@dustydeemer8347
10 ай бұрын
"dRuKaRi" old ass mf stoll reading the first edition lore tf
@CreepersNeedHugs
9 ай бұрын
Death Troopers novel on a new level
@unsuisseegare1291
10 ай бұрын
this has a bit of project blackwing vibe, and I like that
@mrnobodytheuser2950
9 ай бұрын
I love how the Jeff Bezos ad pops up in the video, He makes the Night Troopers look as threatening as the Smurfs.
@gobe8354
10 ай бұрын
It would be nice if they hinted at that in the show. There's so many theories because the show doesn't actually tell us much. Oh well.
@underworldguardian704
10 ай бұрын
Another thing to back this up is when Thrawn mentioned his “deal” with the night witches.
@ultracro
10 ай бұрын
Star Wars is meant to be dark with few hilarious exceptions. That is why Star Wars is the most lovable franchise among milions and milions of people.
@andromedas6630
10 ай бұрын
De Lorra song was a nice touch. This song is a banger
@48some
10 ай бұрын
The theme of Thrawn - when he enters the picture - sounds like a soundtrack from a Frankenstein movie.. then you see the rows of troops filthy and broken armour held together with gold like the Japanese Kitsuni art form. Now imagine whats undereath the uniform and hear the Thrawn Frankenstein soundstrack ... the horror...
@KingdomKeyJT
10 ай бұрын
Ain't no way y'all find zombies to be a dark/disturbing 💀media has already run the zombie shit to the ground and somehow y'all are disturbed by this? 💀
@DanierCZ
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, I really hope the Night-Troopers are not zombies as that would make them far less interesting.
@spyredrum3447
10 ай бұрын
This reminded me of the old zombie storm trooper Star Wars story called death troopers
@theblindbandit6533
10 ай бұрын
Haven’t seen a title like this since andor was releasing must be a good one
@alvinjames470
10 ай бұрын
I think its not all of them that are dead. They volunteer to be in that state. Once they are dead however they store them in coffins until they are ready to resurrect them night sistas style.
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