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@dl3472
Күн бұрын
New World should label the game as FREE the first 20 levels and 60$ after that. They would get so many more potential players that way. The start of NW is pretty good
@farguc
17 сағат бұрын
why would they give the best part of the game for free? the end game sucks in this game. it's not ff14 where you can do 1-60 and still have the best parts of the game behind paywall. NW gives a free trial, people just won't bother to pay.
@xavierpeypellise7176
17 сағат бұрын
Why pay 60 dollars when you've TL
@hdgdhnxbdx1619
17 сағат бұрын
@@xavierpeypellise7176 Why would u play TL when is garbanzo
@dl3472
17 сағат бұрын
@@farguc ppl wont bother with a game that has mostly negative reviews. Are you telling me you want ppl to pay 60$ just to regret it after they hit lvl21? Lmfao you must be related to Kotick, take your little gremlins and go back to the stock market.
@dl3472
16 сағат бұрын
@@xavierpeypellise7176 tbh I paid 90$ back when this released on pc based on hype alone didnt realize i was paying for a broken alpha version of the game. They can salvage this mess if they want to just fire the incompetent ppl and ditch the woke DEI shit
@dreamforger7166
Күн бұрын
I mean I get the hate towards New World... but I would still pick New World over ToL 10/10 times!
@red.fox28
Күн бұрын
NWA gets my vote. Great video, thanks Baggins!
@georgetrevino1294
Күн бұрын
I'm just happy to have 2 MMOs come to the console!!!!! We have been needing new MMOs 💯. Now that we have new MMOs on consoles that seem to be decent it will make a bigger competitive market on console and will help bring us even more BETTER MMO games. Definitely playing both but I'm leaning towards NW.
@tachipirina5006
Күн бұрын
NW just better, dont lie.
@antje0334
Күн бұрын
Chrono odyssey coming to console awwell sick times for console players
@Oryyyt
22 сағат бұрын
@@antje0334And Acheage Chronicles as well. Aiming for 2025 releases but I feel like they're gonna be delayed.
@whocaresreallywho2464
19 сағат бұрын
Got NW on pc and Throne on ps5, don't like how throne limits my farming of dungeons each day. Not keen on how the gear system works either, drop rates are poor and then is the case of getting the right triats.... is alot that Throne does that is annoying just so they can prolong the game. However if the removed the limits to farming and sorting out the drop rates and the don't mean for epic gear I mean for items like Salt!!!! Would prob enjoy it alot more but the grind is just crazy. NW is less forgiving in this. Personally I will prob continue to play both as they both offer different things that I enjoy and fills a gap while I wait for other games
@farguc
17 сағат бұрын
@@whocaresreallywho2464 it's a spiritual sequal to Lineage2, a game that is pretty much a poster child for korean grind mmos. The hardcore players of the game wanted L2 with better graphics. Thats what TL is.
@swaggames_
Күн бұрын
I know TnL is the something new for global, but honestly NW still feels better. I just wish they added more casual friendly pvp flavors.
@Chinosk412
Күн бұрын
Also, NW is less pay to win because gear doesn’t matter in NW as much as it does in throne. Yeah the gear can help you for sure but NW is determined off of your skill lvl. Movement, potion management, cooldown management, etc. TL is just a bunch of button spamming with minimal cooldown management. It’s all a bunch of stun chain horse shit lol
@billgibbs7793
Күн бұрын
For me - and Ive played 6k+ hours on NW, and been on T&L for a few months Korea and now release - its NW hands down. T&L is a nice grind to 50, but boring as hell once you get to 50, and not really alot of things to do. Just my 2 cents.
@josipnincevic
Күн бұрын
As someone who didn't like T&L and am currently playing NW, how is NW end game any better
@mouseinatrap1120
Күн бұрын
What? NW's end game is War and OPR (and expedition leaderboard? bad, but okay) while TL's end game has siege, 2 different GVG, interserver GVG, worldboss conflict, arena leaderboard, -- and after that, you'll have challenge dungeon, dungeon leaderboard etc.. Just what are you talking about. NWs only good part is their combat system, anything else is trash. Combat even getting dragged by their desync from 10/10 score to 6/10 at max.
@aj-np5dg
Күн бұрын
Ehm, the lack of any endgame was the whole reason I quit NW
@Bucs-ep6lq
Күн бұрын
@@mouseinatrap1120 T&L’s end game are different versions of GvG. Both these games severely lack in end game content. But I would say NW has more to do. T&L doesn’t really have much pve content. Also, you mention leaderboards for T&L for end game, but fail to mention that NW has leaderboards for all that you mentioned. Dungeons, arenas, etc.
@GalaxyCommander07
Күн бұрын
played new world 3 years ago, now just waiting for aeternum to drop. played TL and bought early release, but game systems just don't do it for me lol. so excited for the NW redrop
@Random-ness-1
22 сағат бұрын
played about 1700 hrs in NW and im at about 70 in TL... ill be leveling up again in NW. TL was fun for the time, but NW IMO has come a long way. crafting and weapon specialization is alot more fun and forgiving.
@antharper11
Күн бұрын
If you like an MMO that allows you to relax and enjoy beautiful graphics, beautiful sound, and one of the best gathering/crafting systems I've played in an MMO play New World. If you enjoy time min/maxing builds, really grinding for gear, and being sweaty in PVP, choose Throne and Liberty. Both are very fun in their own rights.
@DarrenExplorz
Күн бұрын
Yea, I am going for NW. I need a chill game. Already have sweaty games like APEX and COD hehe.
@Oryyyt
22 сағат бұрын
NW is as sweaty as soulslike PvP which is closer to a fighting game with it's tight hitbox and based approach. They're both sweaty only in different ways.
@DarrenExplorz
22 сағат бұрын
@Oryyyt ill be in PvE only as much as I can only on ps5 servers no crossplay. Just want to chop wood fish hunt and crafting. I didn't clarify that.
@Oryyyt
21 сағат бұрын
@@DarrenExplorz It's ayt. I just meant it as a general sentiment. But NW has the convenience of flagging up so ow pvp is not a problem if you're not into it.
@ryuno2097
13 сағат бұрын
@@DarrenExplorz If this is your first time playing NW, then you'll have alot of fun getting to max level
@SomeGuyFromUtah
Күн бұрын
Hard disagree on the PVP... if you get in the right guild in New World, it's extremely organized with 50v50 wars. There's usually one shotcaller in a voice channel for the whole war, and then smaller groups split up in micro coms, every group has a specific comp and a specific role. The Throne PVP sounds like a big unorganized zergfest
@God_Zeni
13 сағат бұрын
Have you watched any videos or played the PvP on throne? It’s crazy and organized. I don’t see how you can disagree based on how something “sounds”.
@SomeGuyFromUtah
12 сағат бұрын
@@God_Zeni I'm more disagreeing with the idea that it's not organized on New World. We literally had a discord for war-wide shotcalling coms, and teamspeak with mini coms both for 5-man groups to work together individually with heals etc. and even 10-15-man groups to work together to accomplish the objectives. I don't think it could be more organized if you tried... therefore I disagree that T&L is more organized because you cannot be more organized than a well-run 50-man war in New World. I'm in a Company where we've literally been planning for 3 weeks what we will do on day one when Aeternum launches... all focused on pvp.
@God_Zeni
10 сағат бұрын
@@SomeGuyFromUtah Check out Kanon's videos on TnL's Korean server sieges. Your opinion might change. They have shot callers for each specific guild who relay information to the other guilds. They've also split the guilds into 6-man parties as well.It’s kind of crazy how they’ve organize a 200+ man siege.
@SomeGuyFromUtah
10 сағат бұрын
@@God_Zeni That's impressive for sure! I don't of any other games with anything on that scale. I personally did not enjoy T&L myself, but it definitely sounds like sieges may be more than a zerg fest as I initially assumed (mostly based off my experience in ESO and maybe drawing some false assumptions)
@Joan-kr1jo
Күн бұрын
For me, TL is buggy as hell. Got stuck lots of time while doing quests, disappearing markers and laggy controls. I'll give NW another chance, hope they will add more repeatable content.
@xoxo3337
Күн бұрын
same questing is a pain on console , also the bugs cant finish quest or items dont show up to finish it
@jacob5288
22 сағат бұрын
I'm trying really hard to enjoy TL, it's really nice and beautiful... but the controller bugs make me wanna just throw it and smash my screen 😢 No M&K support for console makes no sense... 💔
@merrilllee4878
21 сағат бұрын
Well considering how much improvements have been made since it's mobile mmo like systems before to now, im sure all these bugs will be worked on eventually.
@merrilllee4878
21 сағат бұрын
@jacob5288 because it's console? Though I do wish they have a better integration for keyboard. So I can type while using controller
@jacob5288
21 сағат бұрын
@@merrilllee4878 so what? Current gen can't handle it? Self limitation is such a brainless concept. In a shooter I might understand it... but in a mmo? What would be the point on cross platforming then? It's console... yeah, so what?
@PotatoGunCamper
Күн бұрын
It is pretty simple and based on combat. TL's combat feels floaty, light and anemic; New World's action combat is high enjoyable. For me, New World all day.
@B1u35ky
Күн бұрын
Floaty? What are you talking about? You never played the game
@Oryyyt
22 сағат бұрын
@@B1u35kyI did. The skills feel and sound impactful but it's too rng reliant and not really hitbox/percision based for the most part and the q block/dodge is too unreliable in pvp. Takes the thrill out of it. NW's Soulslike percision based approach is just more thrilling imo.
@B1u35ky
16 сағат бұрын
@@Oryyyt it’s an rpg of course there is RNG. As for “souls like” New World is not souls like and now that it has aim lock the skill ceiling has been destroyed.
@Oryyyt
15 сағат бұрын
@@B1u35ky lol sounds like you haven't played soulslikes if you can't see the clear influence. The hits and misses arent decided by rng bs. Critical and passives sure but anything that visually connects will connect. And everything has a percise hitbox even projectiles, so even when hardlocked(also a soulslike mechanic)you can still maneuver through them with skill. NW is the only mmo rn where you can outskill a max lvl scrub while naked.
@B1u35ky
15 сағат бұрын
@@Oryyyt the game has bad netcode though
@jamesSmith-fl5wv
Күн бұрын
I just played TnL and it got boring fast. Got two characters to 50. I played 30 hours of NW and got a few characters to 30. Im already wanting to play New World again. It was just more fun.
@HXFFI808
12 сағат бұрын
yeah wait till you hit max level and have literally nothing to go for in the endgame :D the leveling experience in New World is one of the best of its genre but it literally has no endgame
@jamesSmith-fl5wv
11 сағат бұрын
@@HXFFI808 community makes endgame if it's good
@HXFFI808
11 сағат бұрын
@@jamesSmith-fl5wvI get it but it doesn’t help that servers are (were?) capped at 1500 players. Which seems
@jamesSmith-fl5wv
10 сағат бұрын
@@HXFFI808 capped at 4-5k I think now
@Pokey-xp9gn
10 сағат бұрын
New world is garbage
@ReadR00ster1
Күн бұрын
I don't know. I think NW dungeon mechanics are pretty good. Making mechanics super complicated seems like a silly thing to me. Just my preference.
@Exosfear13
Күн бұрын
i played peak new world, but i still find t&l better just because i see more players. MMO should be massive.
@arthurlayao3465
17 сағат бұрын
So just play WoW or ESO if you want more players?
@hdgdhnxbdx1619
17 сағат бұрын
dumbest take ive read so far. " GAME IS SHIT BUT BECAUSE IT HAS MORE PLAYERS ITS THE BETTER GAME" lmfao some ppl.
@gimmieyurfries
16 сағат бұрын
@@hdgdhnxbdx1619it is a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE OPEN WORLD GAME is not? I’d imagine a lot of people play MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE OPEN WOLRD GAMES to have many players, just a guess though
@ionutbogdan5843
14 сағат бұрын
@@hdgdhnxbdx1619mmos needs players to survive, to have a better economy and overall a better experience I do like nw more than tl, i hope the game will revive after the update
@hdgdhnxbdx1619
13 сағат бұрын
@ionutbogdan5843 yeah I get that of course but what that dude said is dumb af
@Gavyne
Күн бұрын
T&L is pretty fun up until endgame, then you gotta join the leading large alliance that's running the server or the game turns boring for you. I feel NW is a bit more fun all around for soloers & groupers, with a slightly more interesting combat.
@whathappenedto9374
Күн бұрын
Is that so? Heard you can also pve
@danikmoroz2328
Күн бұрын
So there is really a problem for "solo" type playing in endgame ?( heard it couple times already and only invested like 4-5 hours in TnL but sounds frustrating :(
@newax_productions2069
Күн бұрын
@danikmoroz2328 yeah your drop efficiency goes to the floor in Throne and liberty without a group. I've played over 60 hours and hit 50 a week ago. It's still fun but don't expect to be progressing consistently solo.
@yanewstepdad1355
Күн бұрын
@@Gavyne agreed
@gabrielb238
Күн бұрын
I have around 50 hours in T&L, and lategame is a bit frustrating. It feels I am constantly chasing just increasing my CP, praying for drops and repeating the same dungeons endlessly. I hate pvp so I only do PVE, and in my opinion it's felt flat.
@FatNinjA34
13 сағат бұрын
I'd pick New World over TnL, easy choice for me. The NW combat system was great.
@Our_Strange_Past
20 сағат бұрын
I really wanted to like ToL, but after putting a lot of time in the game it’s just not holding me like I was hoping. Once NW is out I’ll be back on that.
@jeffreysevinga9398
Күн бұрын
The combat in NW is just more fun. TL is nice but i'm already bored with all the skills feels like any other MMO
@SomeGuyFromUtah
Күн бұрын
Endgame progression is the single biggest problem in New World... Always has been an issue in some way or another. I think the content they've added makes it a solid product except for the gearing system.
@bazzamush
23 сағат бұрын
You are right with that. But TL is even worse endgame wise so if we are having to choose to between one of the two then its still NW for me
@EstellammaSS
22 сағат бұрын
@@bazzamushYou’re comparing a 3 year old game with a one week old game. The fact that NW still has ass end game means the developer are either complacent or incompetent. I will bet on Korean devs that are way more familiar with MMORPG to surpass NW in a few months
@SomeGuyFromUtah
20 сағат бұрын
I keep hoping they figure it out. I'll take anything over p2w garbage. Imo they should take a page out if destiny's playbook for gear score. Destiny has its own style of problems but the progression wasn't ever at the top of the list that I can think of.
@sylvarixreaper
Күн бұрын
Excited to make an Iron Man on New World relaunch
@Chinosk412
Күн бұрын
Lamest shit I’ve ever heard lol
@sun4all299
Күн бұрын
Wym
@npgchef
Күн бұрын
Iron man is were you make self made rules in game. Like no trading or using the trading shop at all. Some people also add in if you die you have to delete char and start again.
@flix1179
11 сағат бұрын
@@npgchef u can just say hardcore lol
@matheusvicente1666
Күн бұрын
U forgot about new world’s influence rush in the pvp part
@cuernavaca_4070
Күн бұрын
The much more intricate collection/lifeskilling/refining/crafting system of NW, its action combat and the player-based market make it a clear winner for me. Without talking about the horrible pay-to-win system in T&L.
@safermurderweapon
Күн бұрын
Or the janky tab-target combat
@andrasylvan9915
Күн бұрын
It's not that horrible stop being dramatic. Do you cry in real life because people can pay for things you can't?
@ominai1877
Күн бұрын
I agree. I prefer NW.I love the active block in tanking and the action combat. The world feels more alive to me. I just could not resonate with TnL after 30hrs on kr servers.But TnL p2w is exaggerated. After spending about $1500 you still will get owned by people. And a f2p player can still catch up to you w/o spending a dime. A lot of people are enjoying it and realize they are not getting owned by p2w folks.
@B1u35ky
Күн бұрын
@@cuernavaca_4070 new world is more p2w than TnL because you have to spend money to even play the game. Oopsies
@Jaylot-cn8ub
Күн бұрын
@@andrasylvan9915 Its a hyper P2W game. Stop the cap
@starsgt
Күн бұрын
6:35 - No - as of Season 4 Gems update, the full weapon will now scale with Focus; though they did nerf the scale rate from 80% to a 65% rate (55% rate if you use the gem casing) if your Focus is high enough. So healers (or more accurately, Focus builds) can effectively use any weapon decently enough with an Amber or Sapphire Gem attached to it. They will never give Focus healers more damage output than someone with dedicated primary scaling, but they can at least get somewhere respectable.
@mightymort915
Күн бұрын
Throne and Liberty seems like a FOMO hell tbh, gives me Archeage vibes, but not in a good way.
@tiersei
Күн бұрын
If Rise of the Angry Earth would ever go on sale, I'd probably hop back into New World for Aeternum. I just really don't feel like paying full price for that but also don't want to feel gimped without it's features.
@HowWeSeeItPodcast
Күн бұрын
Just buy it 😈
@brianmack3665
Күн бұрын
Go back for free, if you fall in love all the extra stuff is going to be worth the 30$.
@tachipirina5006
Күн бұрын
bruh are you for real gonna mind to spent 30 euro? are u living under a bridge?
@davep5788
Күн бұрын
@@brianmack3665 That is my plan, but I'm not sure how long I will be able to deal with not having a mount.
@PinnedOut90
Күн бұрын
Buy it bro this new dlc is free and new world wasn't 60 off rip so it's worth it plus they added so much stuff since launch
@ThatDanishFellowPlays
Күн бұрын
It would have been NW, but after they added AIMLOCK in PVP, almost any other tab-target game is better than NW, including throne.
@vladimir4526
Күн бұрын
Chill it will get nerfed
@Festiino
19 сағат бұрын
EXACTLY. Completely negated the whole action combat appeal that drew me to it. If you don’t have to aim how different is it really from tab target? Hope those on console enjoy it
@Teaganharris
Күн бұрын
The biggest factor IMO is like you mention the roadmap. NWA has a grim future IMO with maintenance mode for the rest of its lifespan likely being the future. Where as T&L is new and hasn’t disappointed us for 3 years straight. Plus the Devs for T&L are going to want to capitalize on the current hype so the potential for it getting better is higher, idk just my take.
@Dntbehasty
Күн бұрын
One thing that's left out of this is dev interaction to the player base. NW does do dev blogs, but they have a bad track record for not listening to their player base, sometimes back talking player comments, and not being able to interpret their own data within context. T&L immediately made changes after Korean backlash, and worked on player requested changes from beta. NW player treatment is also part of why its player base crashed so hard.
@Wavycapx
Күн бұрын
3 abilities... its barely an MMO, is why it crashed out + horrific launches, horrible connection. The game is just bad.
@Dntbehasty
Күн бұрын
@@Wavycapx oh that was the initial crash for sure. There have been multiple ones though which all took more and more chunks out of the player base
@dl3472
Күн бұрын
Day and night cycle for pvp sounds like an excellent idea. Why didnt new world copy that idea? Then pvpers get the rule the night and the carebears can gather during the day and craft during night time
@casualgamer4112
Күн бұрын
Throne and liberty has classic tab target and action combat options in the settings with mouse over lock vs having to tab or click.
@wiznz3659
18 сағат бұрын
I was wondering if something like this existed, do you know what the setting was called? I messed with mine too much cause im not familiar with tab target at all
@casualgamer4112
15 сағат бұрын
@@wiznz3659 it's under controls first option select action instead of classic, then under target set it to auto lock nearest target and mouse over target lock. Also might want to look at target priority in this mode. Hope that helps.
@wiznz3659
8 сағат бұрын
@@casualgamer4112 Thanks it helps heaps, I was pretty lost
@PterAntlo
3 сағат бұрын
The action combat of T&L is not comparable to NW. It's just the difference of having a mouse cursor all the time and holding right mouse to turn around (classic) vs. turning around without holding right mouse and pressing a key to get one temporarily. The base mechanic of choosing targets by tab or click and then everything hits automatically (minus a few auto misses based on ingame stats) will stay the same. Just classic MMO. Nothing wrong with it, but not really "action".
@casualgamer4112
Сағат бұрын
@@PterAntlo you can also auto target nearest enemy or mose over enemies to lock on. There are also target priority settings .It's not true action combat no you are always locked to a target regardless, if you want to attack that target.
@starsgt
Күн бұрын
17:35 - There are indeed only 11 mutated dungeons, but mainly because they combined two early game dungeons into one merged map for the mutated version.
@Birdieslayer71
19 сағат бұрын
Where did you get that chair cover?
@curriedsnagz-fn.1667
Күн бұрын
I like new worlds combat way more and the fact there is loot in the open world
@Tygaera
Күн бұрын
You can edit the HUD for T&L. 36:50 This statement is incorrect.
@BagginsTV
Күн бұрын
You cannot edit the HUD with a Controller Plugged in / when playing on Console. Only Mouse and Keyboard.
@chronos1112
Күн бұрын
mmo on console is a problem in itself
@paduarte
18 сағат бұрын
He said you can't change UI for Console / Controller mode. This is correct. You in fact can't change it ☹
@leo9528950
Күн бұрын
I play both and NW and T&L and New World is the better game by far, both games struggle with the end game but New World has a better balanced end game IMO, also the gameplay and combat in NW feels MILES better than TL its so much more fluid and fun its something TL has tried to improve last few months but its sadly still not there.
@davep5788
Күн бұрын
I don't like PvP (I don't play it, therefore I'm not good at it, therefore I don't like it, etc.) and I feel like the PvP is more mandatory in TL.
@GhostRare
Күн бұрын
It's Zerg fest on there with no real skill involved just a numbers game
@jamesSmith-fl5wv
Күн бұрын
Absolutely mandatory to get best gear.
@darrenbates8897
18 сағат бұрын
you do know most 725 gear comes from Pvp in NW right ?
@DarrenExplorz
Күн бұрын
New to MMO, I am trying out TnL just to get familiar with mechanics and upgrades etc. Its fun but man its very overwhelming with the UI and Upgrades. What I do like about it is the Face creation customization compared to NW. I already preordered NWA for the PS5. Can't wait to dive in!
@PterAntlo
3 сағат бұрын
Props for a very fair comparison, highlighting pros and cons of both. For me it always comes down to P2W, especially in two games where PvP is such a significant part of the experience (but also for PvE, just a bit .. less important). If the by far most important "skill" of another player is the size of their wallet and their willingness to use it to progress in the game then that's just not acceptable to me. This is even more magnified if the difference between earning it by playing and buying it is so steep. From what I've seen of T&L, we're not talking about "yeah, one guy can just buy it, but the other only has to play a few more days", we're talking about a difference in months, possibly even years given how small the drop chance for the high-end gear is in T&L. No chance I'll play something like that. But still: Not everyone has my aversion to that, so again, props for making such a detailed and fair comparison.
@NZ-cv5cj
Күн бұрын
I have more faith in the producers of guildwars and lineage. The game is semi disappointing by those same qualifications but they have been listening. I have alot of friends that play BDO and went to throne because it feels like they actually want to earn our time on their game. It's genuinely built around having a player base so if they piss off the community the game is dead. Which explains the delay and fixing their stuff before releasing it to us. They've done alot in a short time, and for the overall development time you can really see it. This game has alot going for it and is certainly larger scale hand crafted than a bragged game of different genre like starfield.
@NuffSaidBread
Күн бұрын
I was really looking forward to new world fresh start but throne and liberty has me hook line and sinker so that’s out of the window
@Jayfour96
Күн бұрын
ask yourself p2w or non p2w. and you get answer
@merrilllee4878
21 сағат бұрын
Lol what a moronic take. TL isn't p2w.
@Jayfour96
18 сағат бұрын
@@merrilllee4878 right
@Jollyjocks
18 сағат бұрын
TL's best weapons and armour cant be put on the shop so you have to grind to actually get the best endgame gear, you can pay to speed up the upgrading of these but it wont put you that much further ahead becuase not all upgrade mats are purchasable
@TheAtmaNex
Күн бұрын
My vote's for NW. I prefer that action combat, especially on console.
@arise14
Күн бұрын
Some differences that you didn't mention: New World you need to switch to the weapon to use the abilities. T&L you can use the ability for the other weapon without swapping weapons. More content also unlocks in T&L when the server completes milestones. This includes new areas, new dungeons and new events until all milestones are complete. New World the content is already there, you just need to progress to get into it. T&L Boss mechanics are mostly forgiving. If you lose one person in your party, you can still complete the boss. There's no enrage timer. New World, you lose someone you might have to restart the boss fight because you don't have enough damage to beat the boss before the enrage timer. T&L there's no durability or PvE penalties on death. New World, equipment has durability. T&L has open world dungeons contracts that you can complete which are separate from the daily contracts. They give you pouches that have a chance to give you an epic piece of gear and those pouches will give you additional open world dungeon contracts. The tokens for these open world dungeons increase item drop rates, exp and gold by 400% and can be obtained from completing other activities like contracts, public events and co-op dungeons.
@danikmoroz2328
Күн бұрын
TnL also has somewhat Action Combat - u can freely choose between classic and this one. Most of the skills still require to select a target rather with mouse or Tab and be in necessary skill range to use it. So it's clunky, but still. NW combat system ofc way much better over any other and has no alternatives still.
@TheBl4ckSh33p
Күн бұрын
Easy, New World! No pay 2 Win, more PvE. And no silly talking dolls. 🥰
@angryscan2970
Күн бұрын
"HELPIE" 😂😂😂😂
@warchiiif6589
Күн бұрын
Yes 🙌🏻 no stupid dolls or plushies following me around. NW for me as well. I like TaL but it’s so hard to get used to the Tab Targeting BS. My character always picks a different target when I’m in a fight.
@B1u35ky
Күн бұрын
New world doesn’t have more pve
@SomeGuyFromUtah
Күн бұрын
I think it's worth pointing out since New World is not a tab target MMO, the pvp system would not work correctly unless the body sizes were the same. Otherwise any pvp player would just make themselves as small as possible.
@RussKarlberg
Күн бұрын
Both. NW is my favorite but I will run out of the new content quickly. TL is boring combat, but nice world to explore and it's better than nothing, since there are no other new MMOs....
@NatashaChannell-v9w
Күн бұрын
I'm going to be hoping back on new world next week but I have enjoyed tnl since it's release. I think the end game and content section is a little unfair as new world has had 3 years of updates compared to throne being brand new, although other then dungeons, world bosses and arena, the mindless grinding for average gear is already becoming sour. Overall I think its a fair scoring
@BlackAlpha93
Күн бұрын
I tried T&L but New World just feel much much better and fun
@thenumberonebeaner2211
Күн бұрын
NW will be the better experience, T&L is too p2w... and the fishing.... NW has amazing fishing mechanics
@SinjunSands
6 сағат бұрын
Literally as someone that has thousands of hours in multiple MMO's and has max crafting and gathering in all of them... like 6 major MMO's ... the ONLY one I enjoy fishing in is NW ... that says something right there.
@GW2Vids1
Күн бұрын
Would love to see content from you in T&L. I have way over 1k h in New World and not planning to come back right now.
@byodinsbeard3945
Күн бұрын
The fact that AGS has them so close is ridiculous NWA should have been September with TnL release November
@God_Zeni
10 сағат бұрын
I really want to try New World when it releases with my friends, but convincing them to pay the $60 up front is tough. The best thing about Throne and Liberty is that it’s free and well-polished. I have a guild of 8 people, all of whom I know in real life. They’ve all gotten addicted and are grinding the game hardcore. It would've been extremely hard to convince them to hop on if the game had a $60 entrance fee. I love this game because it got my friends interested in MMO games, which they would’ve never touched before.
@God_Zeni
12 сағат бұрын
New World has had a lot more time to develop. Let's give Throne and Liberty a year to marinate, and then we can revisit this comparison.
@SinjunSands
6 сағат бұрын
Throne and Liberty took over ten years in Development and has been out in Korea since 2023 .. it has been marinating for a very long time.
@shanepennington4264
Күн бұрын
I tried the new Xbox beta of NW and the T&L release. I’ll say that T&L will draw in more new players as it just takes off in a better way. The pushing people to guild up part will benefit the users as well and keep more people engaged. The content map keeps people excited for the future. Also I feel like people enjoy complexity in an MMO. Not saying I won’t give NW a deeper look, but T&L sucked me in day 1…NW did not.
@Wotanson56
Күн бұрын
Even though I got chewedup and spit out several times I'm still gonna return to New World cause the fresh server starts are always one of the best experiences I had i that game. Also flagging for pvp any time you want is already instant win in my book. Timegated pvp and zerging isnt fun.
@Oryyyt
Күн бұрын
NW. I love Soulslikes and Action rpgs. Always wanted an MMO with that kind of action combat. BDO is too over the top and scuffed in group pvp, I don't want to play as a god with super speed/teleportation and terraforming attacks. Vindictus and tera are also dead. Tried TnL to max lvl cause they say combat gets better then. And yeah it's a hard pass for me.
@tachipirina5006
Күн бұрын
problem with BDO is that you cant do anything with your friends/guild, makes the game so boring unless u like to play just solo.
@jamesSmith-fl5wv
Күн бұрын
I felt the same. I got to characters to 50 and it just didn't feel right.
@Oryyyt
Күн бұрын
@@tachipirina5006 100%. It's a wonderful solo life-skill sandbox with sick combat but they also killed the pvp scene with that direction. But unless they make an engine upgrade the pvp will always look and feel scuffed to me.
@Oryyyt
22 сағат бұрын
@@jamesSmith-fl5wvwhich is a real shame cause I like the progression trees and the idea of having 10skills max. The explosive fx and sfx are also really cool. But combat is too rng reliant, and not percision/hitbox based which is just not thrilling for me.
@jamesSmith-fl5wv
15 сағат бұрын
@@Oryyyt yup and mass pvp is really choppy and cluttered.
@BeeBopGaming
Күн бұрын
NWA 100%
@connorsapp5235
Күн бұрын
I read that incorrectly 😂
@Dreadful-Grope
Күн бұрын
Gangsta gangsta
@BeeBopGaming
Күн бұрын
@@connorsapp5235 lol 😂 I should probably fix it then. 🤪
@BeeBopGaming
Күн бұрын
@@Dreadful-Grope 😎
@Wow4ik1
3 сағат бұрын
I've only played T&L since early access and I have to say that it's fun, but it's not really for solo players. Now after a week I'm often just standing around and don't know what to do because you can only do 3 dungeons a day and usually only bad things are dropped there. And the p2w bothers me too. I don't like it when people just overtake you like that. I will definitely try New World and hope that it is more suitable for me as a solo player :)
@wiznz3659
18 сағат бұрын
Guys when you put into perspective that T&L is a FREE game which released with MORE content than New World as a full priced MMO, I could go on forever on how this blows NW out of the water. There was new content relased within the FIRST week, and more scheduled within the first month.. The ONLY down side for me is the ping. I have levelled completely F2P and with the battlepass, and its really just a convenience factor. We act like G2G doesnt exist in NW and isnt punished whatsoever. Whales will always find a way to P2W. All that being said, if T&L had NW's combat, it would probably be the best modern-era MMO hands down. IT EVEN HAS GLITCH-FREE DOORS!
@BoredAndBrowsing
14 сағат бұрын
Tl is an 8 year old game 😂
@allgoodnamesrgone6029
12 сағат бұрын
@@BoredAndBrowsingit literally isnt.
@MillerTheOriginal
2 сағат бұрын
When you say "blows NW out of the water" I'm not really sure it does. They are both MMO's so you are going to assume people will put many hours into these so paying full price is more than fine for most people
@neoconker2k8
Күн бұрын
Which one ? Imma play both get to endgame and move on to the next game like always .
@Lootwurst
Күн бұрын
MAybe Throne and Liberty shows us how much we can actually do in New World
@tristinhuggins1842
Күн бұрын
What is that demon transmog you have??????
@gregmashore4361
Күн бұрын
NW kills TL easily
@Kaang_Plays
Күн бұрын
Have no choice but to stay with New World, as Amazon will not release Throne & Liberty in my region. I was part of one of their other Beta titles, paid up front before release only to be locked out regionally, no refund from Amazon.
@worldtruth2038
9 минут бұрын
Throne runs at a higher framerate and perceived fidelity for me by a significant margin
@RedJay81
18 сағат бұрын
I plan on playing mostly New World with T&L being my backup game
@Coldberg
12 сағат бұрын
Let's see how PvP is doing after this update, I highly doubt controller players can get anywhere close to a veteran PC player, there's just too many actions one can do in this game and you can't really gauge the potential on a controller at least I think so
@rafaelantonio357
21 сағат бұрын
New world, for sure
@1989Andrej
Күн бұрын
I understand your points however comparing amount of content between game that is 4 years out and 1 year isn't good in my opinion and yet 4 year isn't much further with amount of it
@vladimir4526
Күн бұрын
TL is 8 years old
@BoredAndBrowsing
14 сағат бұрын
Tl is 8 years old 😂
@Rogerfoulger
17 сағат бұрын
I enjoy and have played both at launch and will continue to do so casually for them also. But my current backlog of games and DLC's will mean they are on the back burner for now
@seabhacgra517
Күн бұрын
Both games have alot of pros and cons. I played NW from the launch, quit and went back a few times. The biggest problem with NW is it's lack of anything to do at end game. All I could do was craft and apply to wars that ended up being more Lord of the Flies with hundreds of toxic kids and that's not gonna change with the new spin on the game. TnL has issues as well but at least it does PvP better and feels more fun to me, but that may be the euphoria of a new game too, we'll see as time goes by. TnL has alot of issues with instability of servers and other issues but for now TnL wins for me, but that's likely because I've already played the $#$#@@! out of NW in the last few years and TnL feels fresh and new.
@ur_shulgi9133
Күн бұрын
AGS messes them both up - so unless you are a fan of them, neither - especially if you are a PC player
@grobs4678
16 сағат бұрын
Great video! I agree with almost everything you said. However, I'd like to make one correction regarding your points on progression. You mentioned that you're more of a solo player and therefore prefer New World, and yes, it's true that some items in Throne and Liberty are locked behind guild content. But if you dive a bit deeper into the game, you'll notice that the beauty of Throne and Liberty lies in its gearing and progression systems. There are so many different viable builds...everyone plays a class differently, and you have countless possibilities for upgrading your items to perfectly match your playstyle. While it's true that certain items are inaccessible to solo players because they're locked behind world bosses, the possibilities for your build are still endless! From my point of view, progression is actually one of the weakest aspects of New World and is by far the best in Throne and Liberty. However, the biggest reason I stopped playing New World is the incompetence of the developers. Listening to them talk somehow makes me angry. In contrast, when you compare them to the Throne and Liberty developers, you'll notice they have a clear understanding of what they are saying and doing. Their ability to modify existing features or implement new ones is impressive...just look at what they've changed since the game's release one year ago. But I do miss the combat system from New World. :(
@darrenbates8897
13 сағат бұрын
ditto, so much more variation in TnL. the meta list is completely wrong here. My bro would, being firestaff since day dot can testify firestaff is not meta , gets booted from group runs. @baggins also mentions solo while the best gear comes from raids .. solo you cant do that. !!. (seen all baggins videos on grouping raiding constantly so not sure why his change all of a sudden.. is baggins going solo only in expansion ? I think not.
@ryanvs131
14 сағат бұрын
NW combat feels smoother, ability to swap weapons end game, mounts over morph, even the UI feels more unique. Just my opinion but NW feels like it's own game, whereas TL feels like a combination of a couple in one.
@Cody-92
9 сағат бұрын
New world is more laid back and chill and throne is more intense and in depth but requires dedication. Both are great.i play both but lean more on throne
@petemisc4291
2 сағат бұрын
If they can make dungeon’s solo able, NW would be perfect!
@infantryblack
Күн бұрын
Loving Thrones and Liberty right now and will probably stick with it.
@cc-ll6po
Сағат бұрын
Do throne and liberty have house building?
@summaryjudgment
18 сағат бұрын
My college had more students than New World has active players... the people still playing NW are hilarious.
@paoktaison11
Күн бұрын
Guys one question for both games: It matter which one is the primary weapon and which one the offhand weapon? For example Bow/Staff and Staff/Bow are different or the same ?
@Oryyyt
22 сағат бұрын
In TnL your active wpn dictates your auto-atk. You swap between 2 wpns anytime and you have a 10slot hotbar you can freely customize with skills from both weapons. In NW your offhand is just a shield only if you choose a 1handed wpn. You also swap between 2 wpns anytime but you can only use the 3 skills of your active weapon so you have a total of 6 plus 1 special if you unlock it.
@merrilllee4878
20 сағат бұрын
The difference is auto attack, it also imo affect the roleplay and your immersion into the game. You get to pick the abilities you want from both weapons and slot them to your hotbar. You don't have to swap weapons to use bow/staff abilities vise versa. So there's little difference between primary and secondary weapons. I play dagger/crossbow, so I'm always in melee range. Although most of the builds out there have crossbow/dagger which fights at mid range.
@SkufAbuzevich
Күн бұрын
What do you think Aeternum il less lag than New World that days)?
@bunzzz07
Күн бұрын
As someone who played NW and TL and a PVE player: Things I like in NW: - Combat fells really good and fluid - Story (sort of good) - Mounts finally Things I dislike: Lack of character customization Armor sucks cosmetics sucks (I really wanted to buy to change the look of my character, but, it just sucks!) expertise farm sucks and long queue times events are not as good and frequent as TL Reason made me quit: lack of content afterwards and my friends not motivated to play as, costumes or even normal armor sucks and the character just lacks so those factors made me lose motivation and so I quit. Now: things I like in TL: Character costumization Armors are cool looking, not even needing to buy cosmetics (already bought the battle pass) Im regretting not buying the early access packs as the shadow knight costumes are just DANG! Story rich (with good cutscenes) cool looking characters and some memorable ones vast world You can fly, swim, dash (wouldve preffered if they have actual mounts) open world dungeons and cool dungeons with great mechanics not need for a full party to complete so long as u know the mech (and queue times are less than 10secs or even less and I get it its new) Events (there’s almost an event every hour to keep you engage and its exciting as there are a lot of people doing those events Things I dont like: clunky combat particularly melee if only they can integrate combat of NW then oh boy! Cutscenes sometimes are not in line with the voicelines and I get it, its a korean MMO so yeah. There are Bugs obviously with all new releases of games but the devs are working on those Verdict: Personally, I really love character customization, armor designs and combat that feels good then add a compelling story, engaging and rewarding events, and boss, dungeon runs then im sold!
@николайт-п8в
19 сағат бұрын
I like new world!
@million94
15 сағат бұрын
Do you know if I have to buy The Rise Of The Angry Earth before Aeternum drops? If I'm correctly players with NW + TROTAE get Aeternum for free right? But what is with guys like me, that only got NW base game right now?
@SinjunSands
6 сағат бұрын
Aeternum technically is just the original New World with tweaks and new starting out etc for PC players. Angry earth is expansion content .. without it you are just capped at level 60 and don't get flail or mount afaik.
@Ink.Mapurol
20 сағат бұрын
NW need to click a button to swap weapon to use skill in throne if you use the skill auto swap the weapon
@everlonggaming1966
3 сағат бұрын
Having played both. T&L hands down. Better overall polished gameplayed, fun and involved story, enganging pvp and pve content better character creation andalot more content. IMO. NW needs 10 years at their current dev cycle to have the content available in T&L out the gate. T&L already has more updated content then new world and more is opening as eaxh server progresses.
@gk4204
Күн бұрын
I’ve played both of these games and in my opinion, New World feels better on console and T&L feels better on PC.
@mysticalplatypus87
Күн бұрын
I’m getting the itch to play an MMORPG again, it happens annually haha. Ultimately, I want WoW on consoles, my heart needs it as my PC is too old to run it. I’m hopeful, but until then I need something to get sucked into. T&L was promising but I feel you need a guide to not screw up the leveling process, the UI is broken with a controller, you have to activate cursor mode to navigate menus etc. monetisation seems all over the place, I hope it doesn’t end up where the game forces you to spend money for microtransactions etc. on the other hand I’ve yet to try new world aeternum, I’m gonna have to watch more videos on it. Thank you for this video though, very informative 😊
@NoAlias536
Күн бұрын
SnS + lifestaff = Paladin. Yes, your sns damage will not scale with focus, but that doesn't mean the build will not work. It will work because of the utility. Another thing, for example, is the combination firestaff with Grea axe. You need a specific artifact that makes your firestaff scale with strength.
@118042
Күн бұрын
Or you can get The Abyss great axe, and scale with int instead.
@Audio041194
11 сағат бұрын
I just want to point out the WSNS the only thing the SNS part is used for are some defensive abilities unless you are a tank. Other than that they do less dmg than the wand. Also if you were gonna compare should have done fns/ls since it can tank or do dmg/off healing while life staff does the major healing. It would have put them closer to being equal. Part of the reason for this is how stats work in each game I think TL does it better for a "classless" system. Also want to point out you can't compare new world now to TL now with content (if you saw new world in it's first few weeks if it had to compete with TL now it would have been blown out of the water) because of their age even Korea doesn't have the new expansion for TL, while Amazon has 2 (3 if you count this relaunch) if you gonna compare do it for base game content only. They also had a much lower threshold for dungeon amount that you could even do (TL you can still go but you can't open the loot chest) if you compare them a couple years from now on the path both games have been taking TL will over take New World. Essentially this video is like comparing WoW Mists of Pandaria with FF14 1.0 (heck I will even give you 2.0 ARR). I like the premise of your video though I just wanted to play devils advocate, you are helping people decide what game is worth the time to them or better for them. You don't throw shade at either game. All in all great video only half through but am enjoying it.
@alexanderarena3134
Күн бұрын
T&L for me. New world is cool but T&L just fits what I enjoy more
@mactol7239
Күн бұрын
Another difference is that Amazon don't call their game an MMO. New world is an open world RPG. And New world holy trinity don't work. The tank can barely maintain enemy agro.
@AesthMed
Күн бұрын
Enemy aggro is fixed in new world aeternum so that the tank can more easily maintain it.
@Ares_XO
Күн бұрын
its fixed now, take into consideration that T&L was a game that started its developing in 2011...this says alot already
@nonamename4367
Күн бұрын
i used to tank in medium armor in NW m10 with hatchet and sword + shield. First two years were fun, now…. i wouldn’t know
@SinjunSands
6 сағат бұрын
Aggro in NW is only a problem if you have a lazy / inexperienced tank. People that know how at even a basic level and take the time to use potions and gems like you are meant to, do just fine.
@nonamename4367
3 сағат бұрын
@@SinjunSands yea the best tanks are dps/tanks cause they do so much dps and aggro that they have the boss locked on them. hatchet was my go to since it’s immortal and then sword and shield for taunts and protection ofc
@ThomasPreinitz
Күн бұрын
I tried Throne and Liberty and it just felt awful from the very start, awful controls and combat.
@nytegamer1542
Күн бұрын
Exactly how I felt when I tried it.
@skiddzjust1389
21 сағат бұрын
yeah if you play on the microwave it's exactly how it feels
@николайт-п8в
19 сағат бұрын
@@skiddzjust1389 Do you think TL should only be played on 4080? my 3080 is bad
@ThomasPreinitz
11 сағат бұрын
@@skiddzjust1389 I've got no fps issues in the game, it's just bad controls, you can tell it was made for autoplaying on a phone.
@skiddzjust1389
11 сағат бұрын
@@ThomasPreinitz that's what I meant, control and movement are smooth af on PC, you can adjust the way you like
@hiranthadil
Күн бұрын
I like how easy it's to heal in T&L
@Amel-vp9he
15 сағат бұрын
My 2 cents: TnL looks a bit bland and uninspired. I am not immersed in the world while leveling. NW just draws me in and I get lost in it (in a good way)
@danikmoroz2328
Күн бұрын
I played TnL like 4-5 hours only rn but got a lot of disappearing sounds bugs/server error/stuck in terain. The worst one is sound problems during cut scenes as i totally breaks it ;(
@vesavius
Күн бұрын
Played for 50 hours and had none of that. well, got stuck once. What are you playing on?
@danikmoroz2328
8 сағат бұрын
@@vesavius I’m playing via GFN on PC
@aspact7
13 сағат бұрын
So target lock on PvP is official ?
@darrenbates8897
13 сағат бұрын
yes
@sirtreedom2123
Күн бұрын
You forgot to mention one critical thing in choosing an mmo… that’s player count. New world struggles to break 5k on steam. TL will most defiantly drop in players in the future just like every game does but I’d wager it being able to retain more players… time will tell. If you looking for an mmo players are important. 200-300k or 5k give or take a thousand
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