TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 intro 01:32 backstory of who FRYE is 04:26 my experience with FRYE boots 06:28 the reselling market of FRYE boots + FRYE boot dupes 09:21 the start of the tiktok target frye boot dupe drama 17:06 the FRYE boot dupe criticism BACKLASH 23:49 does the target frye boot dupe EVEN EXIST?? 26:50 my thoughts of tiktok dupe culture
@Emilya-A
4 сағат бұрын
It's such a bargain to watch this discussion without paying thousands of dollars for a university class
@nonoticarly8778
4 сағат бұрын
I love this hair on you. It gives 70s rocker vibes :)
@jaman_jy
3 сағат бұрын
i think it might have been phrased the wrong way, but ultimately the takeaway should be: fashion, especially good quality and sustainable fashion, isn't very accessible to the average person, but also.... the average person doesn't realize that a good garment is going to be fairly expensive because it isn't mass-produced, and is made with care and expertise, from the fabric to the sewing etc etc. fast fashion/capitalism completely ruined people's perception. a great, well-made shirt isn't supposed to cost $5. so the real big issue, which is that it is inaccessible not necessarily because the price is unreasonable, but because people are undervalued and underpaid, gets hidden inside a smaller russian doll and people focus on the wrong thing and we just end up with shitty temporary fixes. the real problem is much, much bigger. the solution isn't to make dupes so a cheap version, made with cheap fabrics in terrible conditions, hits the market and makes it accessible to everyone, it's to dismantle our current system so good quality clothing is accessible to all. (and also to consume less and more thoughtfully). i do think there's an argument to be made about pricing, and how clothing not being super inexpensive forces people to stop, question whether or not it will be a good lasting investment, and consume more intentionally. secondhand fashion slowly evolving into fast fashion, and thrift/charity stores being filled with poor-quality products and dupes IS a problem. screaming about classism and elitism is valid, but those shitty dupes that don't last aren't destroyed or recycled, they're just dumped in poor countries, which are left to deal with landfills of fashion waste.
@nitzeart
23 минут бұрын
I agree but $450 for boots? Still a lot of money. That's just brand name markup. You can find locally sourced quality leather boots for like $50-100 which is more sustainable for the average person if you consider you'll have the shoes for 15+ years with proper care
@austah2150
11 минут бұрын
@@nitzeart Quality leather boots will never be under $100, hopefully you arent being serious. $450 is actually a good price for a long term, quality boot. Thursday boot Co makes solid boots for around $200, that is the lowest you should ever go. Anything lower is probably bonded leather (leather shreds glued together) or faux leather. Both of these look good on the shelf but age horribly. You get what you pay for with leather goods.
@nitzeart
7 минут бұрын
@@austah2150 I have good quality boots for that price. Real leather. They're locally done that's why they're cheaper. And it's actual leather because I live somewhere where a lot fo these "high quality" shoes from international brands are manufactured. I have had one pair of them resoled and even the cobbler said they were good quality and had a lot of life on them. I think they're almost 10 years aold now. Also $100 isn't cheap for someone not from the US, btw. Anything above 200 for me it's too much for boots. Dr Martens boots just over that price too, so...
@tinylaw95
3 сағат бұрын
I gotta be honest, I agree with the tiktoker that spoke on the entitlement of consumers. Regardless of the existence of the 'Target dupe' in the way it was portrayed, her point still stands. People feel entitled to something that isn't a necessity. Do I wish I could afford $400 boots? Of course. But I can't so I can either save up or just enjoy looking at photos and live vicariously through others until the trend dies off as it inevitably will and I can snap them up for cheap in 3 years. Also, the tiktoker who left a comment saying that "dupes are good because who knows if you'll like the boots in five years" is the perfect reason why dupes are bad! Either you like the boot so much you'll die without it and so then it makes sense to save up for it OR you don't like the boot that much and therefore don't need a worse, less sustainable version of it. You can't have it both ways. If you already know you don't like something enough to care about it in five years, don't buy it!! Funnily enough, I think the tiktoker who was breaking down how many hours it would take to afford the boots was so close to the point and still missed it: someone (most likely a woman from our available data on garment workers), who is GUARANTEED to be getting paid less than the US minimum wage (based on well-known fast fashion exploitation of workers), would have to work double or triple or more than that to buy those boots (or, more likely, put food on the table, pay rent, etc). Why is it that the exploited worker who made those dupe boots matters less than your desire (manufactured by social media) to own (only something that *looks* like the real) boots? Its so weird to me to show how much those boots cost v the US minimum wage and for the conclusion to be "I should buy a knock-off to keep up with trends and contribute to the overconsumption that will kill this planet" instead of "wow, I - and every other worker - should be paid more". Sorry for the essay lol. Thanks for the video. I've sworn off tiktok so it feels like I'm keeping my finger on the pulse by watching these kinds of vids lol
@DrDroog29
3 сағат бұрын
This is good shit. 100%
@ArtichokeHunter
3 сағат бұрын
totally agree and it also kinda sucks how the idea of accessibility comes into it and gets distorted. like, it's an important thing! but consideration for including people, including low-income people, in things that often exclude them doesn't mean it's unethical to charge prices everyone can't afford. one, because no price is affordable for everyone and two, because as long as we live in capitalism, someone needs to get paid, and a lot of someones in the supply chain. We need to have clothing and housing and transportation and recreation and food and education etc etc that are accessible to low-income people, and that's super important. but that is a completely different thing from saying everything should be cheap so that people can just buy whatever they feel like buying and not think about the consequences.
@jaman_jy
2 сағат бұрын
you phrased it much better than me!! exactly! the answer isn't to buy dupes, it's for us to be valued and paid more!
@XOXO-love222
Сағат бұрын
"Who knows if you'll like the boots in 5 years?" Well, you can be like the rest of us and just donate, sell, or give the boots to family/friends when we no longer want them. Or you can just not buy clothes that you won't like in only five years. I'm in college and still have clothes from middle school because I bought stuff I genuinely liked, not just because it was a trend. Even for trendy stuff that is now outdated, I still wear it because I genuinely like it and not because some random influencer wore it. Like, I don't know anyone IRL who hasn't had clothing for more than five years. The only reason I can see this happening is if you lose/gain weight or get pregnant. This is all TikTok brainrot fr.
@jaman_jy
Сағат бұрын
@@XOXO-love222 buying something bc if you don't like it you can just sell or donate it isn't necessarily a good mindset either though! charities and thrift stores are filled to the brim with cheap products and a good portion of them are dumped in landfills... (i do agree with you, it's just about that point)
@maryastutzman5654
4 сағат бұрын
In line at a coffee shop, but I’m still gonna watch right now😂
@alexasunshine83
4 сағат бұрын
💘💘💘💘
@juinqelynn3378
3 сағат бұрын
Nowadays even luxury brands are copying each other’s viral products…..
@CarolineTucker
3 сағат бұрын
jumpscare…my face lol👁️👄👁️ I think the current state of dupe and knock off culture are a part of the larger issue of overconsumption!! Whether someone thrifts or buys fast fashion, I hope they are being intentional with their purchases and plan on wearing and rewearing the item for years to come! love the vid (as always) btw!!
@Princess-ur2gd
4 сағат бұрын
Perfect timing I was just scrolling for a new video to watch Love your take on this!
@untilyourbreathingstopsforever
3 сағат бұрын
I love how you casually made a full video with extremely valid points about anitemthat might not even exist , great video
@lilhonor5425
3 сағат бұрын
I feel like with shoes there is more of a grey area with dupes in my opinion. Obviously there is the affordability factor but certain brands of shoes might accommodate the shape or arch of your foot better. Like certain brands just don’t work for certain peoples feet. I also think while there are overall negative aspects of online dupe culture overall it’s less likely to hurt larger businesses than smaller businesses. There’s always going to be the appeal of buying the ‘real thing’ particularly for more pricey or cult brands. A company like Frye will probably be ok if there are similar boots out there. While smaller businesses who get ripped off feel the effects a lot more. There’s an artist I’ve followed for a while whose had some financial issues and one of her there is a ‘dupe’ of one of her purse on Amazon, which is taking sales away from her small business. So with dupe discourse I think some of it can be case by case. Thanks for the breakdown!
@o0hlivi3uh
2 сағат бұрын
I saw this same scenario play out with the tj maxx dupe of the rowe bag. A girl made a video saying she went and checked it out and that she didnt think the quality was on par. Then proceeded to say you should just save for the bag and she doesnt even know if she wants it anymore because the dupes are popular. I looked up the rowe bag and was shocked to find out it was $5000 and such a basic bag. Saying its tacky now etc makes me think they want to own the expensive items for the wrong reasons and it gives "you cant sit with us"
@starrwinter
3 сағат бұрын
What’s ironic is I just found a pair of Frye boots at my Winners ( 🇨🇦 version of TJ Max) for $80 and bought them for fall/winter. Also found some Free People boots there too 😂
@mrscrystalking
3 сағат бұрын
The thing about the Frye boots being hard to take off is totally normal. I have a vintage pair, and I absolutely despise them because they hurt to take off. I got them for my grandmother and I can't wear them anymore. They also give me back problems because they're so dang heavy. So don't feel bad.
@RebeccaHunt-wv8bc
2 сағат бұрын
I have a pair of brown harness boots and I have narrow feet. Yes, they're hard to take off and even to put on, and feel tight for about 15 minutes, but then they're pretty comfortable. I put up with it because I really like them, have had them for about 15 years now. It's a weird thing.
@terranmilne2472
29 минут бұрын
I recently came across a tiktok talking about how Dupes are ruining creativity in design. That the high price tags of designer items forced smaller designers and artists to get creative and innovation with what they were putting out, maybe even taking inspiration from that designer item but giving it a new spin to make it something bold and new. If every brand just makes a copy of the designer item so everyone can have the "same" thing, there's no room for growth, no forward momentum in the culture and everyone becomes bored faster and moves on thus contributing to the waste cycle
@starrybrow
2 сағат бұрын
It's so wild to me to see this brand in the middle of controversy, since I went on a hunt last year for real leather lace up boots and really only found two that weren't thousands of dollars, and Vintage Foundry was one of them. I invested in a pair and have been super happy with the quality - they are definitely not fast fashion pieces. They are still an investment and still made by a legitimate shoe brand with good materials! Nobody should be throwing these boots away in a month 😂
@bethanymulo
3 сағат бұрын
i’m crying i thought this was just gonna be niche fashion tiktok discourse when i made me video so it’s so funny to see you posted this on the exact same day!
@bunnyandfawn
3 сағат бұрын
when this controversy was unfolding on tiktok i was like omg alexa sunshine 83 will be making a video about this!!!
@alexasunshine83
3 сағат бұрын
I'm happy I took a screenshot of everything when I did because so much is deleted now!!
@bunnyandfawn
3 сағат бұрын
@alexasunshine83 so smart omg this blew up on my fyp🤦♀️and tbh...those banana boots are just another microtrend the girlies are going to forget about in 2.5 weeks😭
@jaman_jy
2 сағат бұрын
like it's honestly kinda irritating and saddening to see people *only* focus on the "is the original creator gonna be ok" or "it's a big brand so they're gonna be find regardless" rather than 1/ the ecological impact (which is an absolute disaster) 2/ how much you're contributing to making poorer countries (especially in the south of Africa) even more miserable, 3/ the exploited, piss poor workers who make those dupes. the bigger picture is much more harrowing.
@tracyhuckaby5876
2 сағат бұрын
The Fry moto boots vs. the Harley Daidson moto boots???? Personally, I don't like the banana colored boots. I like a darker colored boot.
@catmoon-
3 сағат бұрын
I guess I'll finally found out if I really like the fry campus boot or if I'm just being influenced, once they start becoming uncool. Also it's very timely that this video came out now, since I am trying to find good leather boots second hand, but it is so hard to find any good pair that fits my wide calves. It's hard even buying new, at least in the EU. I can only find cheap faux leather or super expensive wide calf boots and none of them are in the styles I like. It's so crazy how all boots shafts don't come in different sizes.
@ja8160
2 сағат бұрын
Payless used to do the same thing. You can’t tell people what to do. Worry about yourself 😅
@TeaCupCracked
Сағат бұрын
If we want the value/retail price of items to make more sense (instead of cheap slave labor and insane brand-recognition mark-ups) we have to be willing to take responsibility in our consumption. I very frequently thrift over buying new and there is a GULT of objects, in all sizes, available out there. The argument here is people are saying they "deserve" cheap dupes like they deserve a pair of shoes that fit. These are not the same argument; everyone deserves clothes to cover themselves and shoes that protect their feet, this is a universal truth / moral premise that's firmly taken hold since the last century. However, that is absolutely not the same argument made here; here people are saying they "deserve" to have "access" to a specific trendy style, that copies another person's design effort for a price that they deem personally to be "affordable" (affordability is always relative to the individual; there is no way to identify a "truly affordable" price point). If you go back in time 50 years, 100 year or 200 years ago you will find clothing, even second-hand, was much more expensive then today. We are spoiled for choice; so the outrage has now narrowed down to "but I want that boot, not just any boot". I don't mean to sound so harsh, but it's this attitude of "i deserve" that fuels the fast fashion industry. No one individual consumer is responsible for the ecological impact, or the human rights violations that are taking place, but to make change we have to first look in the mirror and ask; "Do I own enough objects to cloth myself?" if the answer is yes, then everything you buy from that point forward is out of desire. There is nothing wrong with desiring to express yourself through clothing, but it is not a reason for you to then demand we generate more pollution and poorer working environments for factory workers.
@vforvertigo1
Сағат бұрын
It's also possible Target doesn't have an online listing for their boot. I've run into this multiple times with their apparel when looking for alternate sizing. One of those instances, I found out the unlisted item was a dupe for another brand.
@alexasunshine83
35 минут бұрын
So true, although I find it odd that this actual by target “dupe” caused so much commotion yet there hasn’t been a video showing in store this copy of the Frye banana boot color (or at least it’s really hard to find on TikTok which then almost makes the big criticism against it still feel less urgent because wouldn’t a viral dupe video be easier to find I don’t know though like I said I could be wrong that there is one different than what I was mentioning)
@user00616
3 сағат бұрын
Alexa you really are the best. Love the variety in your videos! ❤
@hellenabanner88
3 сағат бұрын
I don't have an issue with Faux leather. Any items I have made of this material holds up for a while and is easier to care for.
@RebeccaHunt-wv8bc
3 сағат бұрын
Maybe you would care more if you thought about what all that faux leather is doing to the environment. It's plastic.
@le4905
Сағат бұрын
Faux leather or "vegan leather" is one of the WORST things you can buy. That stuff is plastic and will start to peel and flake around the 5 year mark. The most environmentally friendly thing is to buy real leather secondhand. Leather lasts for 30-50 years. The virtue signaling for "vegan leather" is hilarious because it was marketed to make people think they're doing the "right thing" but it's actually the opposite. Same for electric vehicles- they are horrible for the environment!
@XOXO-love222
Сағат бұрын
@@RebeccaHunt-wv8bc and real leather is perfect? Look up mic the vegans vegan leather video. Plastic leather is bad but animal-based leather is still horrible for the environment, bad for animals, and isn't as biodegradable as a lot of fashion influencer shave you believe, and it can even be worse than environment if we look at emissions. I'm not mad at you BTW, I understand your POV because fashion influencers that try to put themselves as experts never talk about the reality of animal-based leather. BTW, I don't like plastic leather and avoid it, just don't shame people for buying it when real leather is horrible.
@phoeberainier
57 минут бұрын
it won’t last forever and can’t be reconditioned
@le4905
18 минут бұрын
@@XOXO-love222 But that isn't all true and sounds like someone's opinion. How is buying secondhand leather "bad for animals" when the animal died 20+ years ago and your money isn't going to a business that sells leather? No one said leather is perfect, obviously an animal had to die for it to be made but how many chemicals from faux leather pollute the rivers near the factories that make it? How often do we toss pvc vinyl that is peeling from say, a purse from Target? I've had to toss so many shoes and bags because of that (they CANNOT be donated in that state, they'll toss them too), but I still have all of my thrifted leather bags, belts, shoes, and coats that I can resell or donate one day if I want.
@annabellekahle5230
Сағат бұрын
yeah I think art and expression need to be inclusive and not gate-kept, but fashion as a form of CONSUMPTION is not a right. I do think that elitism in fashion is a big problem, but I definitely think that was not the critic's concern, more about the speed of trend cycles and consuming cheap things because you want the look and not value the craft. I do agree that these boots are a weird target for this convo though, because of course the "dupe" is still two hundred dollars?? It's still not accessible or anything. definitely think there is a conversation to be had about clothing and self expression being less inclusive with the popularity of thrifting causing rising prices, but attacking the boots is crazy.
@annabellekahle5230
Сағат бұрын
agree with the part about fast fashion can be sustainable too though! I think if someone buys these boots and wears them for ten or twenty years then it matters less where they came from
@suem7172
3 сағат бұрын
Sorry, but the absolute irony of tick tock being used to complain about consumerism is not lost on me.
@alexiswhite-v6q
4 сағат бұрын
when she post as soon as you sit down to eat😋😋‼️‼️
@alexasunshine83
4 сағат бұрын
💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘
@rosereddened
45 минут бұрын
As a working class girlie seeing people use my existence as a justification for duping culture pisses me off. I am not entitled to disposable clothing made by slave labor and neither is anyone else
@mrscrystalking
3 сағат бұрын
The thing about the boots being hard to take off, that is totally normal. I had a pair of vintage boots, and I absolutely hate them. They are the red t
@mariabryant6582
49 минут бұрын
I have two pairs of vintage Frye boots, one riding boot and one heavier work type boot, that I found at Goodwill for $5 a pair. Mine are comfortable, and I have no problems with them.
@whithehearthro
3 минут бұрын
I love the way you discuss topics. It validates all sides and is very balanced. I am coming from a poor girl perspective and I gotta say those tiktoks just sound like spoiled rich kids complaining that their super cool elite item is going to look “trashy” because the poor kids are wearing it now…… but maybe I’m just defensive 😂🤷♀️ Also I agree that people aren’t entitled to an item just because they want it but the argument of “save up for it” is very out of touch. A lot of us are living pay check to pay check and can only afford one very cheap item every 6 months or so. I can’t speak for every poor person but for myself I would not consider myself an over consumer because I physically cannot over consume. If fast fashion brands didn’t make trendy clothes for cheap I would not be able to buy cute clothes. Not only can I not afford expensive brands but I am also plus size so they don’t even cater to me. Also target might as well be name brand items because I can’t even afford them. 🤷♀️ that’s a poor girl’s perspective.
@LoversLane16
3 сағат бұрын
The best thred up find i ever found was my brown harness frye boots in INCREDIBLE like new condition for $70.
@margaretcathcart2953
19 минут бұрын
the elitist argument really gets me because it’s like “well, someone else in another country is suffering to produce cheap clothes for me, and you are a classist elitist for pointing that out to me”, despite the existence of fast fashion actually being a bit classist and elitist?
@whithehearthro
2 минут бұрын
How is fast fashion classist and elitist? Not defending it I just don’t see the connection.
@ButtersTweekLuka
26 секунд бұрын
@@whithehearthro It's elitist in my opinion because it's literally taking advantage of people that get paid wayyy less than what is a living wage for us middle class people to buy those products!
@g_willow
30 минут бұрын
Ok but Frye had a campus boot back in 1800 something then stopped making them. Then in the 1960s The redesigned them, changed the toe and added the square chunky heel and rereleased them. You know in the 60s and 70s when that was already the most popular style of boot. They changed that boot to fit with the style that people were already wearing.
@kyannareeves
20 минут бұрын
omg unrelated but i was not expecting to see my school in the background of one of these fashion tiktok’s in this vid
@nitzeart
28 минут бұрын
I think this whole thing is just the fast fashion conversation all over again. It's not an individual consumer issue. If you need some boots and you as an individual like the frye style, by all means buy whatever you want, be the dupe or not, as long as you take care of it and don't just toss it wihtin a year (esp if the vintage foundry is good quality and real leather). Because really $450 for boots it's a big brand markup. Good quality doesn't have to be expensive! It's the overconsumption thing again. The wanting to have the latest trend at the expense of the planet and human rights of workers. It's the companies, it's amazon and shein for their horrible practices. As an individual, best you can do is be a mindful consumer, protest, hold the companies accountable, get hands on with climate action, etc. Because yes that fashiom creator could sound a little gatekeepy, depening on how you take her intentions and tone. Also considering how high fashion is already eurocentric and "a rich people" game. This whole situation could have been avoided if that creator had taken two breaths, calmed down, saved the video in her drafts and then thought about a little more before posting. Poor girl is now in an online controversy 😅 It's a lesson on how NOT to post on social media.
@whithehearthro
53 секунд бұрын
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@MaraAnnelisa
3 сағат бұрын
I think this whole situation is pretty interesting when you view it through the lens of conspicuous consumption (a theory by Veblen). Highly coveted items like these boots function as status symbols, and therefore not only reflect personal preferences but also serve as indicators of "taste". People use these items to showcase their economic, social or cultural capital, signaling a sense of prestige/status and belonging to a certain group (e.g. being seen as someone who is into fashion = high cultural capital). From this perspective, I think we can consider dupes or counterfeits to be an imitation of status, or even as critiques of capitalism. For some, this is offensive because it undermines a brand's authenticity, and good dupes weaken a status symbol's effectiveness and symbolic power. For others, dupes represent the democratisation of luxury goods, making them more accessible to larger groups. However, I think there's always a grey area when it comes to the legal and ethical considerations of dupes/counterfeits...
@ArtichokeHunter
2 сағат бұрын
I think you make good points but also as dupes are more and more popular, it diminishes the power of the real thing as a status symbol, but also diminishes the power of the dupes as a democratization of the status symbol because people are less likely to assume they're real. most people who know enough to ID the status symbol are likely to know if the dupes are common. So there might be a thought to wonder if you're a person who wears real x item or who wears dupes, and what that says about you, but it's not a straightforward access to the status symbol for people with less money. it's an interesting distortion, at least as long as the dupes are good enough for people to wonder. if the dupes aren't actually convincing, they might label the wearer as someone who keeps up with the trends, but can't or doesn't choose to afford the real thing. (sometimes this might be wrong though, people could absolutely buy a dupe by accident without even realizing it's imitating something trendy) i don't think we're at a point societally where a choice to wear a dupe communicates a critique of capitalism to others (except possibly if you know the person and have reason to conclude that's likely the intent) unless it's the kind of humorously bad knockoff that is ultimately showing off that it's a knockoff. (i have friends who collect those) that's not to say that there isn't undermining of the capitalist system in the choice to wear dupes, but it's rejecting one part of the system to buy into another part... unless you make your own dupes! i love kathleenillustrated's homemade and creative dupes and i do think those can def read as a critique of capitalism
@MaraAnnelisa
50 минут бұрын
@@ArtichokeHunter Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I agree that high status groups will probably recognise dupes, and identify them as outsiders. However, those who are not well-versed in identifying dupes might still perceive them to be genuine, and believe in the symbolic value that item represents. In that case, it’s less about being accepted by high status group and more about setting yourself apart from lower status groups. About the critique of capitalism, I don't mean that people buying dupes are outright rejecting the capitalist system itself. I see it more as a rejection of exclusivity and gatekeeping within the luxury goods market. It's a subtle (and often unconscious) critique of how high staus groups attempt to differentiate and segregate themselves from low status groups through luxury consumption. I believe this to be especially true for those who openly admit that they buy dupes and have a blasé attitude towards the opinions of others, as this kind of behaviour directly undermines the symbolic power of luxury goods as status symbols. Anyhow, Veblen's theory is focused on the structural side of consumption, which makes it pretty lacking concerning the agency of individuals. But it's an interesting perspective nonetheless! Thanks again for engaging with me, I enjoyed reading it
@ArtichokeHunter
44 минут бұрын
@@MaraAnnelisa that makes sense! I guess my point re: capitalist critique is just that while it may be undermining the luxury/status symbol side of things, it's buoying up the fast fashion side, so it's still buying into capitalism (a little less with thrifting or a small business maybe, but unless it's a hand me down, clothing swap, dumpster diving, or made yourself, it's gonna fall somewhere under capitalism. Just not the luxury bit. I'm far out from my reading on these things so just running on my thoughts
@MaraAnnelisa
12 минут бұрын
@@ArtichokeHunter Oh yeah, I'm on the same side! I don't think these perspectives have to be mutually exclusive though. Something or someone can critique capitalism while still reinforcing capitalist beliefs, which I'd say could (sometimes) be the case with dupes. Is it a hollow critique? Maybe. Honestly, I’d argue it’s probably not the most effective critique of capitalism anyway, haha. But it certainly prompts an interesting discussion!
@stratosphere94
3 сағат бұрын
I HATE ripoff products. Tacky.
@ivania321
28 минут бұрын
People are mean and it doesn't give them the entitlement to comment out loud. This is so snobby and rude and the opposite of fashion. ugh don't get me started Sunshine :P your looks so gooooood lately :D the air in Los Angeles has been extra congesting...my allergies have been kicking my butt . get well soon
@jessicadensford4421
Сағат бұрын
Everything is fast fashion because fashion always changes and comes back around! Wear what u want but what you want as long as you’re happy!
@ritalynb7070
2 сағат бұрын
I am a boot girl and decided I wanted a Frye boot several years ago (2021 or 2022). I saved and watched for a 2nd hand pair online for ages. I found a pair of vintage Frye's for $120 that needed resoling but were in otherwise great condition. The resole cost me $20. So got a great pair of black Frye's for a total of $140. I imagine I will have them for the next 20 years. I thrift almost all my clothing and ADORE vintage. I don't participate in trends. I was first introduced to the Frye boot by another Vintage lover who recommended them as a quality boot that I would love. I only learned they were "trendy" after I started searching for a pair. I also don't like the "banana", not a popular opinion I know 🤷.
@edwardleecaliforniausa
4 сағат бұрын
Good morning Alexa how are you happy Friday morning to you and I hope you having amazing day and you are amazing supporter
@nitzeart
Сағат бұрын
Now that you mention it, the quality of shoemaking especially leather in Mexico is top notch. (Other leather goods are also very well made). Seriouly. Many of the best international shoe companies outsource their manufacturing here (it's probably also cheaper labor than other countries and then charge very high prices for the finished product but that's a whole different conversation). If you come to Mexico, buy some shoes 😅 Dr martens who? Frye who?? Best shoes I own are from mexican brands and shoemakers. Not to mention traditional huaraches.
@alexasunshine83
45 минут бұрын
For sure!! On FRYE’S official Amazon listing they have a section that says “MADE IN THE USA” which isn’t true for all their shoes so I just wanted to make that note!
@nitzeart
18 минут бұрын
@@alexasunshine83 Yeah, the "made in" is also a legal loophole because as long as the finishing touches of a garment/product is done in said country you can put made in whatever country you prefer 😅 Luxury brands are infamous for doing this. It's another layer of transparency or lackthereof from brands that you need to consider as a consumer.
@pass_word_girl
3 сағат бұрын
i love Caroline but her take just sounds classist, like i get what she's saying but there are better ways to say it
@CarolineTucker
3 сағат бұрын
hi, just wanted to pop in and say my tone was def snarky in that video because I was mainly thinking about all the fashion influencers who constantly pedal fast fashion knock offs and normalize overconsumption in a way I find harmful, especially because they have the privilege/access to be able to consume more mindfully, but don’t! I should’ve clarified so no one could interpret that I was talking about poor people which I certainly wasn’t and understand what’s accessible to some people is different than others!
@pass_word_girl
2 сағат бұрын
@@CarolineTucker hii thank you for clarifying, with that in mind i wholeheartedly agree 💞💞
@CarolineTucker
2 сағат бұрын
@@pass_word_girl I’m sad people misinterpreted what I said but I def left it open for for misinterpretation so I can see how it happened! lesson LEARNED!🤞🏼🤞🏼
@DrDroog29
2 сағат бұрын
How is it classist for her to defend the lowest class of people? I’m sorry, I don’t have any sympathy for middle class people wanting fashion at the expense of low paid laborers. I have spent almost 10 months saving for a pair of shoes when I was at my poorest. If you can afford ANY spare funds, you can afford Frye boots even if it takes you a long time to save. Most people that complain about expensive things spend a lot of dollars on cheap things over time.
@hannahrebek
2 сағат бұрын
Can someone give me a sparknotes version of the house of sunny dress? I only dabble in fashion so it’s unknown to me
@xxoldmagicxx
2 сағат бұрын
I’m going to start this off with I respect the video and your ability to see all side of an issue, not many are capable of that and I don’t think you give yourself enough credit at how well you can put together a document type script. I’m honestly surprised you have been to journalism school! I think it’s elitist af to tell people they aren’t allowed to buy “dupes” or things that look similar to “popular” clothing items. I understand sustainability but it’s ridiculous to put that solely on the consumer when we aren’t the one responsible for the climate issues in the first place. Not to mention most “sustainable, expensive” items are made just like the crap from target or Walmart. Not everyone wants to pay $500+ for boots that are going to hurt their feet or they don’t want to wear leather. Who knows, not anyone making snap judgments on tictok, that’s for sure. Maybe I just have a different relationship with clothing than people that do this as a “job” (which in itself is elitist, not everyone has a job where they tear apart other people’s fashion choices” but I’ve always been a big on wearing whatever tf you want, whatever makes you feel comfortable and safe, because it’s no one else’s business. At the end of the day it’s just clothes. If buying a weird color pair of boots from Amazon to try out the look makes someone happy. Then let them because throwing a fit about it is weird.
@xxoldmagicxx
2 сағат бұрын
And if you don’t wear something you love because other people bought it then you probs didn’t love it that much and you’re just part of the perceived issue now.
@roguetaco5487
2 сағат бұрын
Also appreciate a good "internet analysis" video :) Agreed with many commenters and I think its hard for people to push back on the consumerist culture. I'd heard someone say once you don't have a champagne budget and it's okay to just have a beer. It's an odd way of saying the old adage of "living within your means". However, I don't think we should shame others for wanting a treat every so often. (Again every so often. One needs to distinguish a "treat" over a compulsion to consistently buy things because of consumerism). If the dupe is what you can afford (within your means) and it makes you happy then do it for yourself. Who are random people on the internet to judge your purchase.
@aquari.fairiie
28 минут бұрын
I’m gonna hold y’alls hands when I say this lol, your shoes costing $500 DOES NOT always mean they were made more ethically or eco consciously than the $100 shoes. Especially if they’re made in countries like china. And it’s not because Chinese people are cheap, it’s because American businesses that use Chinese manufacturers are cheap. Just look up the profit numbers for your fave luxury brands before and after they moved their manufacturing from the U.S. to china (or other countries notorious for unethical practices in their manufacturing industry). Now, when it comes to dupes and knock offs, think about it like this: You said in your video you didn’t even know what Frye Boots were until like the last 5 year. And I’m sure that most the people buying the dupes of these boots also don’t know who they are either lol. For some in these comments, and in TikTok, to call it “tacky” to buy and wear the dupes, keep in mind most people don’t realize they’re even dupes. We can refer back to the scene in The Devil Wears Prada where Andy has to be explained to why that specific blue color was even on the racks of the discount store she purchased her sweater from lol. High fashion and luxury fashion (and Frye Boots has 100% leaned into being a luxury brand) has always influenced the mainstream fashion industry. We’re not “entitled to” fashionability but we also shouldn’t be telling low income and low class folks they have to dress in a way that makes it easier for us to identify them as such.
@iselajaz
2 сағат бұрын
the white girls crying and trying to gate keep a brand 😢😂
@o0hlivi3uh
2 сағат бұрын
yeah and saying its going to be tacky and played out... well did you even like the boots or did you like that you had something other people couldnt that was popular in a certain group of people..
@le4905
6 минут бұрын
It's silly and ridiculous. In the 90's I wore FUBU shoes as a white girl and got shit for it. It's not that serious, it's a shoe and I liked it. Period. Nobody can "claim" a brand.
@tinmin91
Сағат бұрын
Alexa, I love your fashion discourse videos, but this one feels like a "chronically online" person's problem.
@alexasunshine83
Сағат бұрын
Exactly why I wanted to cover it!! Especially in regards to this “dupe” not even possibly being real!! That’s what makes it all so fascinating, at least to me.
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