Hello everyone! I apologize for some last minute corrections made within the video because I did rush this over the weekend due to my busy schedule. For any inaccuracies, please do reach out to me through twitter, especially when it comes to pronunciation and other related matters. As mentioned in the video, I would really love to hear out the people from the cultures that will be featured in Natlan. Speaking of which, ideally there shouldn't really be strong Spanish or Portuguese influences in Natlan because the nation is supposed to capture these civilizations' cultures before colonization happened. However, the music does have Spanish elements and some location names or food will likely have those Iberian elements BUT I think the characters themselves won't have those elements in their names and kits. Interestingly, I think Spanish and Portuguese influences are more present in some Fontainian characters, like Garcia the inventor, which makes sense since Fontaine represents Western Europe. Additionally, tan and dark skin (tan is lighter) are different but the discourse I think should be left to people from those cultures who better know the intricacies of colorism (discrimination based on skin tone even within the same race). By the way, another interesting thing about cacao, which I think was in the screenshot I put in the video, was that it was traded as currency in some old American civilizations so who knows? We might get a shop in Natlan that accepts cacao as payment! Also, it really feels weird using Sumeru characters for my footage when talking about Natlan but that's how horrible the lack of NPCs are. Additionally, Candace is not Aaru Village's leader but I still liked having her footage for the tribe leader part because why not lol As for the thumbnail, that was obtained from the webtoon. It was a tribe elder talking to Vennessa! He does look kinda fair but hopefully it's just the lighting... As for the theory I have about why Natlan has no npcs, it's perhaps just...hyv being colorist. Maybe there's some lore to it but maybe they're just lazy to make tan and dark skinned npcs as of the moment so who knows, actually? I hope they do their due diligence once Natlan is out. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the video! Please make sure to check out the composer of the bg music I used through this link: kzitem.info/news/bejne/tJ-Ev2GcsoKGgaA and make sure to check the description box if you want a couple of links regarding the current events I talked about as well!
@thesmilyguyguy9799
9 ай бұрын
: )
@sethlightdust4127
9 ай бұрын
Of course the propaganda driven palestwine supporter with an annoying accent cries about black representation.
@PersonWhoseNicknamedL
9 ай бұрын
Praying for black pyro archon and sovereign
@CarlosAnglada
7 ай бұрын
I'll join
@marseillejoh
7 ай бұрын
This might sound racist but i would prefer her to have light skin, mainly because i eant her to look like himeko from honkai impact.
@PersonWhoseNicknamedL
7 ай бұрын
@@marseillejoh Nah, dont worry. But perhaps she coulld be both at the same time? Someone with traits and personality from Himeko but latin looks
@troddenleper8915
9 ай бұрын
I just hope for more dark skinned characters. The characters are starting to look the same as they have been a sea of white, with the dark skinned characters countable by a single hand.
@Mistocloud
2 ай бұрын
There are 3...tan people...maybe
@Mistocloud
2 ай бұрын
I checked. White.
@chet_irl
2 ай бұрын
@@Mistocloudthere are zero dark skinned playable characters. We have a few tanned white people which the community interprets as black. it’s really sad how little representation hoyo gives us
@ngm6541
9 ай бұрын
knowing mihoyo and the Chinese market they wont make the pyro archon have a colored skin
@silverhawkscape2677
9 ай бұрын
As they should.
@1swagevilregalallen479
9 ай бұрын
@@silverhawkscape2677 okay incel
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
I thought it was very obvious that the pyro archon was going to be Himeko expy. She’s actually the herrsher of fire in honkai .
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
@@silverhawkscape2677This is why you ain’t got no friends loser 😂
@dave1346
9 ай бұрын
@@anyaaa2801no shes not lmao she was never a god and yes a human, dont spread misinformation and go play the damn game
@morax5015
9 ай бұрын
as much as I really want to see diverse colors in the game. i wouldn't want to get my hopes up especially after Sumeru..
@2triedforthis830
9 ай бұрын
I’m so glad you spoke about the situation in Gaza and the terrible things the citizens there are faces because of where they are, and how no one is doing anything about it. Great video as always and I hope we can all show our love and support of them❤️
@yourlocalyanfei
7 ай бұрын
While I myself am white and aren’t of any of the ethnic backgrounds that Natlan is from, I’m glad that you emphasized more than just skin tone for representation. Cultural representation(food,clothes,architecture,etc.) is just as, if not more, important to some people. Again, I don’t have a lot of personal experience with this since the only minority I’m apart of is the lgbtq+ community, but I just wanted to point this out. Keep up the good work and I loved your take on all of the Natlan stuff❤
@moonawilks8240
9 ай бұрын
I really do hope for proper representation this time. I was really disappointed with Candace with the release of Sumeru. Sorry that there's not too many hopeful comments in the comment section, as there's many people just blatantly saying not to get hopes up. I really hope they don''t attempt the same colorist route like they did in Sumeru.
@sethlightdust4127
9 ай бұрын
Candace had the perfect skin color and is the most beautiful character in the game right now. If you wanted her to be dark chocolate black and have a big nose, then you're soulless. I'm glad you got disappointed when you care more about racist representation toxicity than the beautiful game.
@moonawilks8240
9 ай бұрын
@@sethlightdust4127 First of all, I agree that Candace is beautiful, I never said that she is ugly. Secondly, there is nothing wrong about caring about representation. And the fact that you're saying that makes it seem like you are the one who is racist. The way you worded that was disrespectful. You are able to have your own opinion on what is beautiful to you, but for you to make it seem like dark skin and larger noses is "ugly" then you should keep that to yourself. No one said Genshin and it's characters AREN'T beautiful. I'm really confused by you accusing me of being "soulless" for wanting representation for a character they literally referenced from an actual person who has darker skin.
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
@@sethlightdust4127What on earth are you saying? Don’t use Candace as a shield for your racist agenda.
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
@@moonawilks8240Right? They really thought they were being slick 💀.
@moonawilks8240
9 ай бұрын
@@anyaaa2801 Thank you! They really thought 🙄
@wagneranselmoduarte1123
9 ай бұрын
Yay chocolate, im very curious about the monsters and creatures of natlan, there are a lot cool folklore to use as inspiration, for example, here on brazil there is the legend of the boitatá, a fire snake (or whit fire eyes in some depictions) that protect the forests
@yurinamaekawa7250
9 ай бұрын
Dont expect much considering inazuma's only japa ese enemies were nobusbis and kairagis, and sumeru had no creature related to middle east culture, just animals, living fungi, and people
@wagneranselmoduarte1123
9 ай бұрын
@@yurinamaekawa7250 fair
@silverhawkscape2677
9 ай бұрын
@@yurinamaekawa7250There were no Yoikai enemies for one
@MrPenetroso
9 ай бұрын
@@silverhawkscape2677they are almost pretty dead. You have what, Sarah, Yae, Itto, that blue oni and Kirara. The way they are expanding the lore in slower amounts, don't expect much from Hoyoverse.
@ilucasz
9 ай бұрын
Só eu que acho meio merda a nação de gente com pele escura ser uma nação de índios e tribos? Tipo, até a nação baseada no egito e oriente médio era mais civilizada... Sério, se os índios não tiverem iPhones eu vou ficar puto!
@woekittenvideos7534
9 ай бұрын
I wonder if they'll broaden the concept of "war" to something more like "competition" or "struggle." I know of a few team sports that were invented in the Americas, it could be interesting if that's a big thing in Natlan. Regarding agriculture, I can only assume cocogoats.. I mean coconuts come from Natlan, unless they come from a part of Sumeru we haven't seen yet.
@ilucasz
9 ай бұрын
Oh no... Not a tournament arc...
@f3lixxlol
9 ай бұрын
I Wonder if they’ll do something like Maroon communities, where they’ll combine both African and Latin/Hispanic cultures
@WackyChu
9 ай бұрын
Saying Latin and Hispanic is a very colonize move since those terms came from colonialism to remove the indigenous people from their original identity. This is about the indigenous people of Mexico, we won’t have to worry about anything afterward. Maybe that’s for the best. No slavery, no genocide, no forced mixing, etc.
@eleemaeli1830
9 ай бұрын
well i think probably the pyro archon can be Himeko mostly to honor honkai impact and being her a fan favorite is not so farfetch, she can be tan a little bit and being that we still missing a claymore archon and himeko was a fire claymore mmmm, probably is not true is gonna be a original character, but being the hoyo multiverse a thing and character being in different version in any game a thing they did many time. i guess is probably something
@yourlocalyanfei
7 ай бұрын
From what we know, I do think one of the Pyro Archons was based off of Himeko Murata from Hi3rd. That in off itself does NOT mean she was/will be white. Cyno seems to be based off of Kalpas in some way and Kalpas is white/white passing while Cyno has a tanner skin tone. Just because a character is inspired by another, It doesn’t mean they’ll be a complete visual copy. (At least for Genshin characters)
@sweet_tooth-if3yx
9 ай бұрын
Here’s my thoughts on natlan, as well as some extra side notes so first of all on the whole war aspect and as a Mexican with indigenous heritage I know very well that at least in south America with the Mayans, mexicas/aztecs, and Incas war for them wasn’t nearly as barbaric as people make it out to seem, it was very calculated, thought out, and heavily tied with religion, and rituals, they wouldn’t declare war all Willy nilly just cuz they felt like it, it would take them weeks, and it very much consensual, because to them it would mean being able to make a sacrifice to the gods which was a very big deal to them which also kinda ties with the “losers turn to ash” in which the goal wasn’t to massacre unlike more European known wars the goal was to capture. I think it would be really cool to see this more calm and tactical side of war, that and my thoughts on a playable dragon character I think it would be really cool, and we could have a really good chance of it happening considering how much the fan base loves Neuvillette so far, and I guess Zhongli too since he’s sorta a dragon ( an illuminated beast dragon to be exact), and it’s kinda clear to see hoyo verse does like their dragons, plus it has some pretty good ties with Mayan, and mexica/aztec mythology/beliefs keep in mind that one of their most important creator gods, was a dragon so to speak I’m referring to Quetzalcoatl for the mexica, and Kukulcán for the Mayan the precious feathered serpent who keep in mind could change forms between human, and a feathered serpent….hmmm sound familiar?!?? Yep dragons who adapt, I really hope we do get a playable dragon character tho it would make me really happy, oh and about skin color, or colorism, as a brown person myself yeah it would make me happy seeing more people like me presented on the big screen, but keep in mind that just as everyone is different so were indigenous people, our ancestors came in different colors as well, we have some written records from the Spaniards which I don’t know how valid they are ngl since they did exaggerate many things about us, where they talked about lighter, and fair skinned indigenous people, either way I’m just happy to see my indigenous culture represented, our culture goes beyond the social roles many white people placed on us(Christianity/Catholicism), so I understand if some people don’t understand, or like some of our culture aspects (human sacrifice which again wasn’t the way you normally think of it as, which don’t get me wrong sounds awful that they did this, and I don’t agree with it, but they had reasons for doing it, and it held of great significance to them so it wasn’t treated lightly at all, it was treated with honor, respect, and care, oh and they didn’t sacrifice as much as you would think again Spaniards kinda lied about the toll) and that’s okay, I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day sorry for making this so long and thank you for reading if you made it this far 💕💕💕
@S3ymira
9 ай бұрын
I am so hyped to learn more about Maya, Inca and Aztec civilizations. Especially Maya civilization. I hope they keep the archon design little raw and not forcefully incorporate modernity.
@draco5770
9 ай бұрын
Little sidenotes that I'd like to make and a commentary at the end as someone from latam: Tupac alone means royal/brilliant/magnific in quechua afaik, it could still be a reference to amaru II but just so we are informed of that and if there's a II there has to be a I so he's not the only one. Regarding the pets yeah they are cryptids that tend to resemble dinos and the actual term the cn localization used it's the umbrella term which is used for dinos like the velociraptor and the like. Murata as the archon, Furina and Zhongli and Nahida are an example that the next archon might not be strictly be expies like Ei or Venti but who knows. Fellow natlan capitano truther I'd be honored to share the crack of the hand with spiral as his constellation since it's a symbol that has been registered from hopi to olmec cultures. About cacao, personally idc, I care more about the corn and aguacates(avocados) trade and naming. And regarding the elephant in the room, the topic of skincolor, as someone from latam, as someone who just wants to share an honest well reflected, measured opinion and as someone whose skincolor is brown I understand the need a lot of people feel for the archon to not be white but from what I've seen on the ES speaking side of the fanbase, we want to see something similar to the current us so not only the precolumbian deal, and although we understand the thing with color we usually care about other issues before that, for example Insomniac that should be closer to us and did spiderman miles morales getting something like miles' nationality wrong on release while still selling themselves like they understood the latinos is something that is to puke. So a cn developer making the head of state of the ingame "us" be white but still deliver on actions, clothing, etc representing our cultures would still be good since latam is a place with a lot of skincolors and phenotypic characteristics, with important parts of the population in a lot of our countries nowadays being mestiza y variopinta so be it white or brown or black just delivering in the aspects I metioned would be good no matter the color imo. What african players might feel is not my bussiness, I know I cannot speak for them and I dare not suppose what they might think so I know I'm not the one to answer. Overall good video.
@ricecola9609
7 ай бұрын
I dunno I feel like it'd just be easier to at least add some diversity in the cast of characters. Making them white, black, tan, brown, etc. I genuinely think they can they just don't. For instance with Natlan a majority of the cast were just pale in skintone despite a majority of them having been out in the sun. I mean Bennet is darker than a majority of the cast. Then if you include the brown skinned character Xinyan and Kaeya are noticeably darker.
@CarlosAnglada
9 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis
@JoJoLay.Kawaii
9 ай бұрын
I would be kind of disappointed if Natlan didn't have dark skin characters but I would be more disappointed if the Genshin fandom doesn't behave because of it... *ahem* nahida va drama *ahem*
@dovahkiin6488
9 ай бұрын
Wait, what's up with Nahida's VA?
@sethlightdust4127
9 ай бұрын
They didn't like her because she was black probably (i don't fucking know)
@JoJoLay.Kawaii
9 ай бұрын
genshin twitter fandom harassed nahidas English Va
@shozinks
9 ай бұрын
Id also be disappointed, but I would not get my hopes up. If Xinyan, kaeya, Candace, Dehya, and Cyno are deemed "DARK SKINNED" then I can only imagine what someone of my complexion would be called. If they repeat the same drama from Sumeru release... this time the community is gonna let hoyo have it. Me personally I like the game and ill continue playing regardless. Only way to get me to complain is if they actually create melanated characters... and they all are trash or weak, I might have a slight attitude. But whatever.
@mybeaniebooz9601
8 ай бұрын
Knowing himeko in the honkai lore shes probably dead the whole time or dies during the story 💀
@aluinkali7100
9 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m very pessimistic about Mihoyos cultural sensitivity when it comes to people of colour. I’m not sure what I‘m dreading more a nation of pale people inspired by Africa and Meso / South America or them telling a story of brown people who are always at war. I‘m not confident that the writers who gave us Liloupar can do that without playing into a bunch of racist stereotypes.
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
Whoever came up with Liloupar needs to be fired. It’s like they created her just to “self insert” with her or something.
@aluinkali7100
9 ай бұрын
@@anyaaa2801I don’t think that people get fired over writing racist characters in a country where nationalism is the status quo and religious minorities are sent to concentration camps. Mihoyo often shows in their work that they’re more open to foreign cultures then the Chinese government is. On the other hand I highly doubt that they subscribe to the same progressive views that many western game developers do else the Liloupar story line would have never made it in the game the way it did. I mean having a racist NPC is one thing but the MC and Paimon not pushing back hard against her ideas is the main red flag for me regarding that story line. Kinda paints traveler as someone who doesn’t give a fuck about social issues as long as it doesn’t effect their own agenda.
@marseillejoh
7 ай бұрын
@@anyaaa2801who is liloupar and whats so racist about them?
@isaiahhaley4816
8 ай бұрын
Im gonna be honest im sure there are going to be some natlan characters with some slight pale skin but for some reason theirs this one sliver of hope that makes me think murata will be black or tan its not that hoyo is incapable of doing it its just that there sucking up to there chines players which is understandable but if there gonna be taking culture representation from other countries they still have a responsibility to represent it accuratly and they have done great so far and the skin color of the characters arn't the reason i like some of them but as a black person i would really appreciate it if they mad murata black or tan like xinyian and deyha
@robertmelconde8151
9 ай бұрын
the sound track of natlan is near sound track of carinosa (the philippines folk dance)
@exiled_angel1239
9 ай бұрын
Well I will say you are hoping for a alot
@Jack_o_Lin_
9 ай бұрын
But wait don't we have someone in the business sector of sumeru in Dori? Granted it's not selling a product made specifically from the nation, but having someone that specializes in trade via import/export of goods is valuable. Plus, Inazuma has package delivery with Kirara as well, though that one is a little harder to justify as business of export unless combined with world wide distribution of Yae's light novels
@silverhawkscape2677
9 ай бұрын
No. Tbe Pyro Archon will be Himeko. At best we'll have tanned Himeko.
@johanseth3277
27 күн бұрын
Dis aged like spoiled milk But oh well it is what it is
@MrPenetroso
9 ай бұрын
Don't expect much from this company. This game is mostly a waifu and husbando collecting game.
@moonawilks8240
9 ай бұрын
You make it sound as though dark skinned characters cannot be fit into the waifu and husbando category. Apologies tho if your comment was unrelated to representation or the topic of skin tone.
@MrPenetroso
9 ай бұрын
@@moonawilks8240 It was kind of, since the main demographic don't like that much. I would love to have more representation if it's done right, now if they will had a dark skin character just for the sake, it makes them as if they are after brownie points. I just wished Sumeru had more dark skin characters.
@moonawilks8240
9 ай бұрын
@@MrPenetroso Okay, yea I definitely agree. Representation def should be done correctly, and I will admit I was pretty upset with how they handled Candace. I was def hoping for more dark skinned Sumeru characters too, not to mention, the ones we did get their kits are pretty sad compared to other characters...
@sethlightdust4127
9 ай бұрын
@@moonawilks8240you're a fake christian by the way. Left-wing political ideals are your god
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
Kinda hilarious when you realize that “Reverse 1999”, a game made by a Chinese indie company, has more diverse characters despite being less than 8 months old than a billion dollars game that is three years old 😂. They even have a canon non binary character.
@CarlosAnglada
6 ай бұрын
Free Palestine
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
About the archon: so Honkai has a herrsher of thunder and wind: Mei and Wendy who became Ei and Venti. But honkai didn’t have a herrsher of rock, water or grass hence why their expys were random characters. Which brings me to say what’s obvious: honkai has a herrsher of fire. That is/was Murata Himeko. Considering Natlan has something to do with resurrection, it makes it more obvious. I’m telling you guys this so that you could prepare yourselves in advance and not be shocked when it turns out the pyro archon is a European looking woman 😂.
@ivangalv
9 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@nuguya-2
9 ай бұрын
Headcanon: Natlan where it's citizens is at war with their coward Archon. Citizen 1: "An archon? A god? Sorry, but we don't believe in a god." Citizen 2: "After she tried sacrificing all of us we lost faith in her, and now were fighting back." Citizen 3: "There is only us... There is no "Archon" here." Citizen 4: "Why would we follow a god who killed her own kin. Her brother all for what? Power..." Citzen 5: "Are you here to see her? CAPTURE EM! Feed em to Xiuhcoatl!"
@1swagevilregalallen479
9 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t this contradict the manga?
@sethlightdust4127
9 ай бұрын
This is why you don't don't give 8 year old kids phones. Like stop with these cringy fanfics that nobody will ever love. At least your life will be a bit more miserable if you continue on.
@anyaaa2801
9 ай бұрын
I kinda wanted an antagonist archon in Fontaine but unfortunately no :/
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