The 'laggy' diplay experience can be improved like with other Android devices. Go into Developer mode (tap the build number until it tells you you're in Developer Mode), then change the values for Window animation scale/Transition animation scale/Animator duration scale from 1.0x to .5x. Enjoy your lightning-fast experience, and weeb on!
@Male_Parent
Жыл бұрын
That's the first setting I change on every new Android device I get. I set it to off though.
@BAMK
Жыл бұрын
Still got my original M11 with the dual SD card slots, and I love it, does exactly what I need and not much more
@cian.horgan
Жыл бұрын
I loved mine except that I wanted to use it as a Bluetooth receiver and for watching videos directly on it, both had horrible latency so I finally gave up on it
@NoBodyO2TheG
Жыл бұрын
They said there was problems with having 2 sd card slots. Was it ever fixed?
@stephenhanson3647
Жыл бұрын
I bought an M15 two years ago. The screen broke and I emailed about a repair. They told me that I was SOL because they had discontinued the model. So now I have a $1300 paperweight. They did offer me a 5% discount on an M11 of my choice. Will look for some other brand.
@damiengrief
Жыл бұрын
I have the M11 Plus ESS and I love it. Best DAP I've owned. I like the Android DAP. But yeah... my only issue with them is they're never updated and are running on super old versions of Android constantly but ultimately it doesn't hurt the experience much. But it'd be nice to see firmware updates more than a couple times per year.
@kamilchrostowski4378
Жыл бұрын
i still use my fiio x3 mk2. it's simple but has all the features you need and I love it.
@ericburgos
Жыл бұрын
The sound of that Shanling M6 Ultra is gooooood.
@adambrown8867
Жыл бұрын
You notice a lot of cheap things from China aren't cheap anymore?
@samza9622
Жыл бұрын
Bingo!!!
@Punisher9419
Жыл бұрын
The profit margins are huge I suspect.
@endrizo
Жыл бұрын
thats cos dollar is worth nothing.. inflation you know?
@adambrown8867
Жыл бұрын
If the USD crashed we are so screwed.
@Soggy-Soy-Toy
Жыл бұрын
Because they gotten better and also inflation/import tax raised/ lots of things under the hood
@OledBurnInKing
Жыл бұрын
My fiio m9 dap battery no longer holds a charge anymore, i only had it for less than a year when I bought it awhile ago, I even sent fiio an email about the issue that I was having with my fiio m9 but fiio never responded to my email. The only way for my fiio m9 would work is by using it when it's plugged into a wall outlet and once I unplug it from the wall outlet, it would turn off right away every time and it won't charge. I purchased the fiio m9 from amazon. I ended up getting the fiio m11 from amazon and the fiio m11 still works. If schitt or topping made a dap running android, maybe a portable dac/amp from schiit with tubes or solid state class a amp that you can plug into an android device. I would even buy it.
@alyx4436
Жыл бұрын
The Pijama Pants of Fury could be a really good kung fu movie 🤣
@garygriffiths7353
Жыл бұрын
M17 is an awesome dap and desktop solution
@atypicalaudio
Жыл бұрын
Just now seeing the Pizza Hut radio. Very cool indeed
@RaySwitzer
Жыл бұрын
What I want is something I can store music on to plug into my car or my system at home. Have my oppo ha2 and phone for headphones. What would you suggest
@Suiax
Жыл бұрын
I'm posting this as a follow up, with my M11 Plus, was at work all day, so I'm posting this at home with my DAP in hand. Somethings up with the M11s. Because all i have to say in this follow up is: WHAT LAG? Maybe it's the launcher? First thing i did when i realized the default one had no app drawer, was install Nova launcher. Perfectly smooth for a Snapdragon 660, 60hz screen, and Android 10. Not experiencing the lag shown here, at all.
@mdk12172633sg
Жыл бұрын
Fiio are you watching this ? You should make upgrades on processor, software and screen... It would be great to see 120hzs screen cos 60hzs dosent feel smooth anymore and sd660 is ancient processor you should have used flagship processor like sd865 or above in atleast your flagship m17 that would have changed everything.
@stevec5465
Жыл бұрын
Still using my M7 from 2 years ago.
@endrizo
Жыл бұрын
2 years old is too old now? you buy new daps every month or something???
@stevec5465
Жыл бұрын
@@endrizo nope. I hope my battery lasts forever. My M3 for not last 2 years before it died
@richardgoddard37
Жыл бұрын
I love my M7
@dragons_advocate
Жыл бұрын
I fear that the Fiio player app is much of the reason it feels sluggish -- I am using this very same app on a Samsung Galaxy S20+, and it's frustrating.
@ZReviews
Жыл бұрын
There are WAY more options. Get the Mango Player that iBasso uses. If its available.
@nathanberger618
Жыл бұрын
For $20 less the HiBy RS2 is available
@Baboya
10 ай бұрын
Lol you like EVERYTHING literally but this. Usually buy the things you like but kept wasting money. Took a gamble on this and its pretty good. Wanted something NON THX anything. 670mw @32 / 14 hour battery life / Fiio still updates it. Powers any IEM and most headphones. Its android 10 but runs every streaming app. Can buy it around 300-350 dollars new especially this time of year (Nov 2023) with all the discounts everywhere. Get the Titanium version looks way better. What I learned is if I buy the shit you hate (which is super rare) I save money lol
@spragzpc1
Жыл бұрын
When you know to much , you can't enjoy the little things no more
@brandonburr4900
Жыл бұрын
Does having everything being processed to dsd slow it down? Did you try turning that off and seeing if that helped the responsiveness ? I agree that daps today should be modern phone like in terms of screen quality, speed, software ect. What keeps these behind is manufactures big boys (Apple and Samsung) phones screen and processors etc would only do that for large orders and they would laugh at small audio companies like fiio if they asked. The ibasso is the closest resemblance to a modern phone and actually sounds good. And this is 2023 and that's the closest we have gotten. That's why we get all these old implementations of Android and wierd sideloading daps like astill and kern.
@tassadarforaiur
Жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated to fiio, but it's always a little sad seeing the Solaris on the shelf. Thanks for the art Helmut / audiovalve
@damienriot
Жыл бұрын
My M6 pro from Shanling was horrendously slow. It sounded nice, it had my fav akm 4497 x2 dac but the UI was so laggy as shit. It had random hangs, pauses in yt music and Spotify and the random restarts. The M11 plus ESS, which I got 1 week ago, is a lot smoother. Even the display is a lot better than the shanling shit which died 1 month ago.
@jonb5150
Жыл бұрын
I m done with Fiio. I've had several in-ears go south on me within a few years, my m6 fell ONCE and the entire screen flew off. They once produced a solid product now I stick with shanling, HiBy and will likely grab an iBasso.
@jafizzle95
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the other DAP reviews. I have the M17 but I need to downsize. Now that I pretty much only use IEMs I don't need a brick with 3 watts. Need something pocketable. At the very least I need the ability to stream, preferably Roon ready. Would love a volume knob that is on the same size of the device as the headphone jacks. 4.4 required. etc.
@robertlee9935
Жыл бұрын
are DAPs locked to the OS they ship with ? don't they accept upgrades
@hockeywarrior
Жыл бұрын
Lol my Rhode NTH-100s are being held together with duct tape. Classy.
@GilReynard
Жыл бұрын
I have the M17. Never use the FiiO player, bluetooth and USB DAC functions are buggy and basically don’t work for me, it will overheat if I don’t use the fan. But I still love the sound, especially since I added my second linear power supply - the FiiO PL50 LPS died on me after a few months, so I got a far better one. Maybe I just haven’t heard enough good gear, as you guys seem to be saying the FiiO sound is just meh …
@DJGeosmin
Жыл бұрын
id love to see them do a collab with a good phone maker like, imagine a oneplus phone with a fiio dac in it
@Suiax
Жыл бұрын
FiiO DAC, with THX Amp. 3.5mm, and 4.4mm jacks. I'd take out a loan for that.
@DJGeosmin
Жыл бұрын
@@Suiax same tho. would finally make a $2000 phone worth it put all that in a phone with top of the line computing specs and its just the ultimate phone lol
@TouzeenHussain
Жыл бұрын
When are you getting the new Sony DAPs?
@jojogpt
Жыл бұрын
Fiio seems to have forgotten its roots. It was the champion of affordable all round devices. They used to have a DAP at every $50 step, starting from $50. They haven't released an affordable DAP in years. Their modern designs look uninspired. I used to love them. Now I'm not too fond of them. I haven't been interested in any of their products after the BTR5, which I still use.
@stormvogel9542
Жыл бұрын
hee z revieuw i would like to upgrade i now have the btr7 and i am undecided between a grypton or m11 what would you do or do you have better alternatives greets mark
@EvanA.
Жыл бұрын
OMG! You demo'd Violet Evergarden soundtracks during the review
@РоманАртюхов-н4р
Жыл бұрын
Have fiio m11s with Sivga Oriole. Not bad, but i want try to buy ifi zen dac v2. what about between? What better?
@senchocaptain5553
Жыл бұрын
I fee like now a budget phone + microSD + FIIO BTR7 is the way to go.
@tnarch
Жыл бұрын
If you think M11 S is slow you should try X7 mark ii 😝. Slow to death…
@Inserthouse
Жыл бұрын
Should try the FiiO X3 😂
@SonicVibe
Жыл бұрын
I’m still using the m3 pro and ea3’s
@kristophergurley585
Жыл бұрын
My Little Bear has a 2.5mm and that’s enough. I use it so infrequently that it’s fine.
@Vonliktenstien
Жыл бұрын
I have a btr5 with 2.5mm 2 pin and a cable for my HD6XX.
@xFrozenxSnowx
Жыл бұрын
Made the mistake of buying Fiio X5iii, never again. Fiio does not update their software more than 1 year at most. The same happened with UTWS3 and probably UTWS5. They are neat products, but the quirks are too much and I can't use it for calls cause the mic sucks. Have to run a TWS when making calls outside.
@WarriorKidd06
Жыл бұрын
Good video. Looking forward to more DAP reviews
@colinmartin9797
Жыл бұрын
22 seconds. SAFE.
@samgilliland3423
Жыл бұрын
Z Is there a dap that won't die within 3 years 🤔 I have had the fiio m11 the hiby r5 gen 1 and the r6 gen 2 and none of them have lasted more then 3 years my r6 barely made it two years before the battery crapped out
@samgilliland3423
Жыл бұрын
Should I go with a sony dap?
@raywcksn
6 ай бұрын
Ibasso in general made pretty good product. I’m still using ibasso dx90 today, I bought it 10 years ago. Mind you, some of their dap battery are user replaceable, including their newest dx260.
@EdgeDC
Жыл бұрын
Bear in mind that the M11S is supposed to replace the aging M11, NOT the M11 Plus (which itself replaced the M11 Pro). The older M11 and newer M11S are at a different price point than the older M11 Pro and newer M11 Plus are.
@ZReviews
Жыл бұрын
But what about the M11 Ultra° Skylag edition?
@EdgeDC
Жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews Hah! 😆 BTW have you ever seen the K9 Pro “Skylight Exploration” version? Limited edition (only 200 made), only sold in China (officially). Has a clear panel on top so you can see the insides. Same specs otherwise. Your joke about a “skylag” edition brought it to mind.
@videomasterlou
Жыл бұрын
Still need 2.5mm for my expensive cables…will not be buying any more cables…ugh…
@TheMMadmaXX
Жыл бұрын
I've got a 2,5 on my A&K Futura 200 🙂
@r00s.
Жыл бұрын
I still use 2.5mm.
@thekarlouchh
Жыл бұрын
Fiio q5s for the win 😉
@endripradika5473
Жыл бұрын
Hello, i want ask something. If you say M17 is passable because it's like a brick, do you have any recommendation for me which dap i have to buy other than M17 ? Thanks in advance.
@ZReviews
Жыл бұрын
iBasso and Shanling are all solid offerings.
@endripradika5473
Жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews Very well, i will start digging information about those two. Thanks for your feedback.
@BrZi38501
Жыл бұрын
Don’t buy a DAP its a waste of money
@endripradika5473
Жыл бұрын
@@BrZi38501 may i ask why ?
@BrZi38501
Жыл бұрын
@@endripradika5473 their softweare will never be maintained regularly they will become more and more buggy and slow as they get older… no metter how good it sound you will not use it if softweare expirience is bad 🤷♂️ I don’t know your budget but no DAP can compete with sound of a good portable dac/amp like mojo for example… and I’m only pointing out mojo couse it has a optional poly add-on which unables airplay which is only lossless wireless conection and it also ads a sd card slot… in my eyes thats size of dap, price of higher end dap but best portable bitperfect wifi enabled wireless music source that is much better investment than any dap and it will last longer and sound better…
@ruiborges1635
Жыл бұрын
I love my m9
@BrZi38501
Жыл бұрын
I cant understand how anybody could have hoped that android DAPs would ever get softweare updates for any resonable amount of time… not even most android phones get regular updates for more than a year so how could one hope for much smaller companies to have dev teams dedicated to updating DAPs and developing for new ones… it was always clear that buying android daps was a wasted money… I know its not a popular opinion but we all as a comunity failed by letting iPod Touch get discontinued… it was the only DAP that was mantained by manufacturer and I know it didn’t have the best magical dac that puts angel dust on every recording, but you could easily conect it to a mojo for example… that combo sounded better, had better softweare expirience and got updated while not costing any more than a mid-higher end Fiio DAP. Even if you add poly in to the mix to have best wireless connestion with airplay its still cheaper than high end DAPs that become paper weight in 2 years… but dissing apple is much more cool 😒 Soooo best DAP now and for past 5 years has and will be a used iPhone/iPod touch + mojo & poly. The end.
@michaelcurry3498
Жыл бұрын
Still the best dap for streaming under 500 dollars your going get and if you know one better with more power and full body let us know instead of doggi g fiios under 500 dollar dap. What you going to get under this price that's a dap with same specs or better, none
@Inserthouse
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a bang for your buck DAP. FiiO is good but their updates really suck…
@_Pretender
Жыл бұрын
...TempoTec V6 step better in all aspects. And for -30% price.
@antyvirusuk8056
Жыл бұрын
So i guess he doesnt like the M3pro anymore?
@colinmartin9797
Жыл бұрын
Fiio's firmware updates are absolutely shit. And their customer service is really pissing me off. It's awful. They have wasted over two weeks of my time demanding I deal with the Amazon seller for a warranty/firmware issue.
@linnen_elm
Жыл бұрын
here subs for miku! _noooicccee~_
@guerin545
Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on bang an olufson?
@EdgeDC
Жыл бұрын
Complaining about not having the latest Android version on a purpose-built DAP is just… silly. It’s a DAP first and foremost, NOT a phone or tablet. The fact that it can run non-audio-related Android apps is a bonus, not the reason for its existence. What really matters on that front, IMO, is whether or not it runs all of the audio-related apps you care to use. If Android 10 can still do that, why do you care about having a newer version of Android on a DAP? That’s what your phone is for. DAPs are *not* phones! It’s ironic that if a DAP has 100% custom software and can’t run ANY Android apps, the complaint goes away. 🙄
@ZReviews
Жыл бұрын
It still runs poorly. Partially because of the Android version.
@EdgeDC
Жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews I think it is mostly that the Snapdragon 660 (and the 3GB RAM) is much less powerful than modern Android phones, so it feels sluggish by comparison.🤷🏻♂️
@BigSugar1078
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I love my M11s. Just what I wanted and needed.
@Inserthouse
Жыл бұрын
Same here. I had my x3 gen 2 since 2016 and it lasted up until this day. At least FiiO products don’t break down :) I am also using an M11S by the way 👍 Can’t complain about the purchase.
@beezlebub3955
Жыл бұрын
Lol the laggy experience is my experience with android phones and is the sole reason I like apple garbage
@Suiax
Жыл бұрын
So, it seems like the M11 Plus was the better buy after all. After hearing you rave about the THX Amps in the K7, and also the video where you compare the M11 Plus to an iBasso, and Hidizs, I ended up going with the M11 Plus, and I like it. Yeah, only Android 10, and Snapdragon 660. Still reasonably usable, if you don't ask it to do too much else. Obviously, music is it's bread and butter, but KZitem runs good, and on device video playback is good. Biggest issue, is the lack of security updates. Lastest one it has is from 3 years ago. Definitely would heavily advise against taking this thing on public wifi, or keeping sensitive data on it. The lag doesn't bother too much either. I still my old OnePlus 5t with the Snapdragon 835 for all my shameful browsing, and in terms of fluidity, they're about the same, which is to say, tolerable. Certainly no S22+, that's for sure. So, I see the distaste for the M11 S. It's an okay device, but it's so okay, that why does it need to exist? Also, 🙋 my 7hz Timeless still has a 2.5mm cable. However, because of the K7, and M11 Plus, I'm quickly transitioning to 4.4mm.
@bugrakalkan3064
Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the review of hiby r6 gen3. Is the review any soon Zeos. Btw i like evertthing about the ibasso dx170 (i mean never listened actualy, but look wise: screen, form factor, volume knop. But it has Rockchip which is not the snapiest from what i read and viewed. Do you share this opinion also? So im close tot decide between the Hiby r6gen3 and the shanling M3 ultra (love the form factor). Great reviews btw,really enjoying it.
@samgilliland3423
Жыл бұрын
Be careful my gen 2 has battery issues same with my r5 gen 1 I love the sound but all these Chinese daps just die fast so I think my next one will be a sony dap
@bugrakalkan3064
Жыл бұрын
@@samgilliland3423 Thanks for your comment. That's a shame, is it that bad? These are well known brands in the dap industy. Are you looking for the sony nw-a306 or the nw-zx707?
@samgilliland3423
Жыл бұрын
@Bugra Kalkan I'm thinking the 306 because I'm scared to waste my money on an expensive player again. And out of all of my players the cheapest one the hiby r5 gen1 sounds the best .it's also a power house it runs my HD 600s and my sundara perfectly. It just needs a better battery
@MrAkella33
Жыл бұрын
hope you review the new Sony DAPs particularly the ZX700, it looks great and Im a big fan of Sony DSP. They manage to do some cool stuff with their DSEE tech
@RemitheDreamfox
Жыл бұрын
ok but when are they making the robot tho
@ZReviews
Жыл бұрын
Get SOMETHING ELSE Here -- FiiO BTR7 ----------------- amzn.to/3qt8ylP FiiO K9 Pro --------------- apos.audio/products/fiio-k9pro-desktop-dac-amp/?sca_ref=36221.ouwJgZltO5 FiiO K7 --------------------- amzn.to/3FxUrnJ FiiO M17 ------------------ www.mimic-audio.com/products/fiio-m17/?bg_ref=1jiUfR1k0R
@joelopez7459
Жыл бұрын
A high-end scroll wheel dap would be perfect for me
@CarAudioHorizons
Жыл бұрын
It’s sound signature is extremely BRIGHT!! and the original M11 coaxial digital output was far better than this. That’s all you need to know if you’re using it for headphones or car audio 🙄 Oh and Roon is overrated!! 😆
@user-yj6ih2ql1z
Жыл бұрын
I only watched first 3 minutes and that was enough information for me, thanks man, I can't stand a laggy and slow device
@zloklau
Жыл бұрын
I got M17 is exactly what that guy showed you. Hahaha, I want other Chinese companies making high power DAP then I can used them instead of Fiio.
@rabitec.
Жыл бұрын
I preordered the M17 back when it came out and I love it to death. I still see your points tho, so lets see how they take your criticism and what will come out of it in the future.
@usernamefromhell
Жыл бұрын
I just want a nice dap with great audio quality, powerful amp, NO android, NO touchscreen, and under $200 😢
@AliAkbar-oh5dy
Жыл бұрын
Still rocking my lg V20 with my sony and beyer headsets using usb audio player pro. Cant wait for more Dap Roasts!
@HighEnd-S
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on this review !! i had the M5III and it was a worm sound, with the Sennheiser IE800, then I got the M11 and my God, so neutral...boring to death, then I got the M15, very good and more detailed especially shines with MQA, and if you pair it with bluetooth it still shines with AptX plus, so a good neutral, the only problem is that is getting to hot... I sold all of them, and reassess my DAP situation.... by mistake i destroy the IE800 and since I like vintage reference I have now the AKG K3003, which i use with an iphone since the are 8 ohms and with 125db sensitivity, i also run the hiby app on the iphone.... it makes almost un-necessary a dedicated DAP, and I have also a HiBY FRC3 but it makes little difference depending on the material and i hook that to my laptop...
@springbay1
Жыл бұрын
The poetry of Z randoming up Jethro Tull on yet another FiiO brick 🤣
@MrBlackJava
Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see Sony this year
@crtautist220
Жыл бұрын
00:16 Daddy chill LOOOL
@dawhoking
Жыл бұрын
Is this the same Z who absolutely loved the FIIO M11?
@ZReviews
Жыл бұрын
Yeah . when it was first released and was better sounding. This one is just ... not good.
@adaboy4z
Жыл бұрын
I've sold all Fiio equipment I've bought. It all sounds sterile and blah.
@masterazlan6999
Жыл бұрын
Dun buy dap buy dac n amp Cuz it last with time If dap its like smartphones, always new one ery years.. Earmen Angel dac amp Numero Uno for iem N sum headphones.. IF u insisted Well AK3000 is the best for now.. Check it out.. peace butter!
@Punisher9419
Жыл бұрын
Too many DAP's are overly complicated. It just needs to play music, it doesn't need to be a smart phone. I like my Xduoo X3, it was £80 or so and plays music very well and sounds great. What do this £500+ DAP's do better? What's up with Xduoo anyway, they have discontinued all of their DAP's?
@DJ_BROBOT
Жыл бұрын
That's false. If you don't add more features to it there is no incentive for most to buy it over a phone
@Suiax
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. I have a Hiby R3 Pro Saber. Great little device, but I wished I had a small Android based DAP, that can download my Spotify stuff. Enter FiiO M11 Plus. I had a feeling going for the one with the THX Amps was gonna be the better buy.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
Жыл бұрын
"What can £500 daps do better if I just listen to my unearned biases for them sounding all the same".
@_Pretender
Жыл бұрын
...))) It's scary to imagine what you will say about TempoTec V6, which has a 425th processor and Android 8.1!) But it has a great sound and amplifier. And good work with streaming. Great player for $300++.
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