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@sankaplays3098
Жыл бұрын
I despise people like you who promote scummy scams just to get a sponsor for a video you make money on in the first place. Get a job my guy.
@tsumardi
Жыл бұрын
I wish we can see picture of Jeromy hooker, I heard she is high end. This is definitely her chronicles with Jeromy.
@majinhunna
Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Didn't know someone was notice this
@danielcalabrese5769
Жыл бұрын
That last game about dragon's I think is the very worst story out of them all, because it shows that people are so dumb that an extremely simplistic and bit of rendering is all they need to be drones. Maybe it's just a bunch of really young kids who don't care about actual good gameplay and are just happy that they can fly a dragon. Still that's just sad.
@codystromsness2130
Жыл бұрын
Day of dragon has alot of surver but funny enough has 1 to 3 people on any 1 given surver a day at best. The lasted out any anyone who called him out on his lies,lied to people saying he was a police officer and would arrest anyone who slander his game and the list of issue goes on to the point he brok steams TOS by hard code baning a game reviewer who gave a honest reviewer who also bought the game day of dragon at this point in 2023 has bassicly been abanden by its maker and is easly one of the biggest scams to ever happen on steam yet people still toss moeny at stranger promising the world without question or logic or common sence. Maybe because I worked for Square Enix I have a almost a magic 6th sence to spot scams at this point I was able to call out the days b4 was a scam with Watchung the 1st trailer they ever made the quality of the commercials,game play and even other promot meteral was literly stolen from game I called out and worned people about and show prof yet dispite having prof it was a scam no one listened and now the dumbasses that envested in the day before got what they disirve for being dumbasses.
@Avigorus
Жыл бұрын
"Don't buy the game until it's finished" is good advise for all gamers, full stop. We seriously need to stop preorder culture given how abusively game devs and pubs have gotten about failing to produce decent or even playable games on release.
@Anthony-pi6pf
Жыл бұрын
Yes there’s no need to preorder anymore since everything is digital. The store isn’t gonna run out of copies anymore 😂😂
@ingamingpc1634
Жыл бұрын
@@Anthony-pi6pf Until you realize that the game can be delisted I'm not joking that has happened before which is the equivalent of a store running out of games and stopping the sale
@Anthony-pi6pf
Жыл бұрын
@@ingamingpc1634 all the more reason to not pre order diddly squat.
@Avigorus
Жыл бұрын
@@ingamingpc1634 Delisting so early only the preorders actually get the game? I don't think I'd even want a game that suffered that fate.
@saucerfullofzepp4203
Жыл бұрын
Same with everything in Life - Houses, Sandwiches, products. VC industry is basically a Bunch of rich friends that sell to one other and "record" profits. The % of people making money of "projects" is really really small
@prompit
9 ай бұрын
I love that 9 MONTHS AGO the writing was on the wall for "The Day Before" and oh how this video aged like fine wine :)
@Izzy-rh7br
Жыл бұрын
I remember a coworker of mine would spend all his money on Chronicles of Elyria. He would talk to me all night about the game. He told me if i played later, he would let him into his kingdom. I can't imagine the amount of disappointment he has for spending thousands on that "game".
@lkx5257
Жыл бұрын
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@jwarendsen
Жыл бұрын
If I'd tell a co-worker I'd let them "into my kingdom" I'd probably be fired...
@dicariel
Жыл бұрын
That’s so sad 😞
@Nick_the_gamer21
Жыл бұрын
I remember many I played with did this or guilds raised money for kingdoms lol. This is why I won't buy into Ash or Star Citizen
@bruggybladewyrm5762
Жыл бұрын
@@Nick_the_gamer21 Star citizen is looking promising compared to these guys, they do tell you what you're getting into, now if you chose to spend more than the cost of the starter ship then that's on you really.
@ASK2286
Жыл бұрын
I think it's important to point out that the girlfriend only spoke up because he brought her up in his list of tragedies he'd gone through, leaving out how he and his lies were the key factor in their breakup
@iloveplasticbottles
Жыл бұрын
I love how easily satisfied Day of Dragons players are. They wanted to play as dragons and are happy.
@flower_of_zaun
11 ай бұрын
we really are, i just RP as a dragon and hyped to do so
@jemal999
9 ай бұрын
@@flower_of_zaun Hey if you know what you like, and you actually like it, good on you! I loved Cyberpunk 2077 on release day, so I know the feeling of other people trying to tell you 'that game sucks how can you like it'. Don't let others tell you not to like something. Enjoy!
@flower_of_zaun
9 ай бұрын
@@jemal999 thanks dude, merry christmas!
@YumariYatasuka
4 ай бұрын
@@flower_of_zaun 🙄
@cujoedaman
Жыл бұрын
I think what's worse than these being scams is that it hurts the reputation of legitimate developers/kickstarters. If someone is making a real product, but ends up having a costly delay due to something out of their control, they can instantly be labeled as untrustworthy and a scam.
@anthonyplaysbass
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I'd never give any money to a Kickstarter for a hope of getting something remotely close to what is sold on the Kickstarter campaign.
@timar6868
Жыл бұрын
some of these judges that dismissed cases should be investigated for corruption, you cannot take millions of dollars for something that was literally a scam and false advertising.
@PancakesPK19
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately kickstarter has so many safeguards. It says everywhere that kickstarter is not shopping and there is no guarantee that you will get what you pay for. It tells you to do your own research before spending any money and if you do spend money that the only way to get it back is if the people who got the money refund you directly. I'm a super backer on kickstarter I've backed over 200 campaigns. About 15% I just lost my money on. On two of them I was contacted by other backers who were trying to take legal action. However in the long run all they have to do is show they tried to fulfill the pledges and then nothing can be done. Especially when the a lot of the developers/designers or whatever are international and even if they do something illegal its out of reach of US courts. Also the one line under the submit payment button that says there is no guarantee to get what you paid for absolves them of any responsibility. While this is unfortunate its a small part of crowd funding.
@rhone733
Жыл бұрын
All judges are corrupt.
@nkaurum3482
Жыл бұрын
Only if little tim knew how the justice system worked
@Gamer_e.
Жыл бұрын
@@nkaurum3482 wdym? false advertising is illegal and judges can be removed from office...
@dereekee
Жыл бұрын
@@Gamer_e. Removing a judge is crazy difficult. Also, we've already set legal precedent for letting companies get away with false advertising. If I recall correctly the legal defense can be summed up like this; "No rational consumer would reasonably expect these claims to be true."
@Zombertino
9 ай бұрын
The way you predicted how The Day Before's launch day and state of the game would go was just FNtastic...
@onomatopoeia7505
7 ай бұрын
Underrated comment 🥳
@nolgroth
Жыл бұрын
My rules are; 1) No crowd funding and 2) No Early Access. Which is a shame because these scams leave a sour taste in consumers' minds, making it harder for sincere indie developers to secure funding.
@Bhamloud47
Жыл бұрын
Early access is a lot safer. You can read the reviews and I’ve found some gems in early access.
@OrloxPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with early access tho 🤔 But there are a lot of scammers that publish something that barely resembles a game as early access,and tainted the whole early qccess program in the process.
@ticktock479
Жыл бұрын
I actually Early Access sometimes. The main reason I will do so is if the developers and/or publishers have a reputation. A perfect example is Grounded by Microsoft. With the success of some of the survival/builder games M$ jumped on board and sent Grounded to Early Access. Every update in EA was headway. Either new areas, new creatures or quality of life improvements requested by the player base. The QoL advances were a very plesant surprise as they actually listened when a majority of the community requested something. The only drawback is yet again the need for a M$ live account and online play for single player. I know if M$ had done this game totally in house it would not be what we ended up with. Community involvement on asset requests and QoL helped make this co-op survival/builder game the success it has been But generally I'm in the same boat. Definitely no Kickstarter video games and early access in very, very limited circumstances. Seen too many EA fail to buy into it.
@OrloxPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
@@ticktock479 yeah, kickstarter is a freaking scam 90% of the time. It's just not worth it.
@Silentpoppy
Жыл бұрын
I don't really have any issues with early access granted its probably smart to make sure the game is being produced by a known quantity Larian studios and the early access for baldurs gate 3 is a good example of a trust worthy early access.
@sadeva6532
8 ай бұрын
You definitely made a right call for The Day Before. It was up all of 4 days, didn't deliver anything promised and the studio is no more. Steam has even issued refunds in an unprecedented move.
@jolteon345
Жыл бұрын
My guess with Day of Dragons is that it’s kept alive by the combo of an interesting premise, it being playable in it’s current state, and a reasonable price tag for this age in gaming. People go in expecting a demo for a $20 game and enjoy it, it beats shelling out $60+ to a AAA studio for a game in a state that’s best described as a buggy mess.
@GrimReaperNegi
Жыл бұрын
See, if it weren't for the creator going after youtubers at the start, alongside the mismanagement, I would have bought it by now. It Looks good, and being a dragon, is cool as f*ck! I'm waiting for the complete version, OR is the healing dragons turn out well!
@dont-want-no-wrench
Жыл бұрын
or, the dude has set up a bunch of fake accounts and bought them himself
@DarkScarlettVixen
Жыл бұрын
dang it, I was so excited for Day of Dragons, seeing it's on this list sucks...
@Native_Creation
Жыл бұрын
@@dont-want-no-wrench sounds like it, it only had 100 or so recent reviews, small cost with the kind of funding. Because 99% certainly wasn't spent on the game
@TheRubberDuck77
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkScarlettVixen It is more than what he portrayed here, it' still early access mind you, but it does have survival elements, ie needing to eat and drink, sniffing out the sources of them too and sickness in its early forms. As well as several of the custom dragons already out. Road maps have been put out and being followed so far. and to me a lot of the fun is the inherited traits system. basically breeding up the stats As you grow from hatchling you get mutation points that can help you generate better stats in offspring, the offspring is a new player who grows using mutation points again. Now there is some randomness too, but its still a cool system. for more info look at my unnattached comment
@grvbbsmusic
9 ай бұрын
The fact that you predicted The Day Before downfall 9 months ahead of time...now they shut down the company. Lawsuits incoming...wont do anything, they are unreachable.
@novelwriter
Ай бұрын
Steam auto-refunded all purchases whether the players asked for a refund or not. Just straight finished them with a click. lol
@dr_lulz
Жыл бұрын
Scammers like these should be held to account. There is a colossal absence of culpability and regulation in this industry. It is actually criminal.
@leadpaintchips9461
Жыл бұрын
It's not criminal, because these kickstarters have 'donations' instead of purchases, and they're considered speculative investments.
@billrobert3226
Жыл бұрын
@Lead Paintchips who said anything about the law? they just need to be held accountable 😈
@unkledoda420
Жыл бұрын
It's nobody else's fault if you're too stupid to handle your $ without getting scammed. If you were dumb enough to donate to one of these games then learn a lesson from it instead of whining and bitching that someone needs to be held accountable.
@dr_lulz
Жыл бұрын
@@unkledoda420 Why defend these idiots, criminals and scammers? What kind of a person are you? Devoid of empathy for people who have been scammed, shame on you. If there is a hell, you’ll be fast tracked lol. Several of these cases and similar cases WENT TO COURT and were, by definition criminal in their deception. Your parents failed you people. Go watch some Jim Browning, educate yourselves about the global impact of scammers ffs. Evolve.
@leadpaintchips9461
Жыл бұрын
@Mark Mowadeeb Same concept. To be fair, there's more then a fair amount of products that succeeded and didn't scam using that terminology, but that's what allows them to get away with it.
@ManOfParody
Жыл бұрын
Really amazing job. Usually people miss some details about The Day Before because there's just so many red flags out there, but you did an amazing job at making sure to include all the details. Great job, sincerely.
@ryuno2097
Жыл бұрын
i had wondered what had happened with CoE, so I read Jeremy's blog and found out his court case got dismissed. I was angry when i read that and in his blog post he writes how he was so happy. It also felt like he was dancing and giving the middle finger to those who filled a law suit against him. I scrolled further om his blog and he post the usual no tangible update posts. Where he writes long posts just to show how "busy" he was, how this one feature he's trying to do took so long. Ever since he won the lawsuit, he hasn't bothered updated his youtube page. I know he was just using the youtube page to show the courts he was still "working" on the "game".
@KineticSymphony
Жыл бұрын
How on Earth was the lawsuit dismissed? Hard to imagine a more clear-cut case of fraud...
@happywebster7151
Жыл бұрын
now scammers have precedent to commit fraud if they just make it appear as they are working on something.
@boki1693
Жыл бұрын
@@KineticSymphony My guess is this type of fraud is so new, there are no laws to protect us properly.
@GreedOfTheFool
Жыл бұрын
The game has a website and ,scrolling just a bit, you see the money he got right in the middle. $7,900,000+ Crowdfunding
@ian_b
Жыл бұрын
Kira's channel has lots of fun videos exploring Scam Of Elyria.
@MaFo82
Жыл бұрын
The worst part about the scammers is that they put people of the idea of crowd-funding, something that may well lead to the death of indie-development and making the gaming scene even more dominated by AAA-studios.
@revolvingworld2676
9 ай бұрын
I dont trust any kickstarter for an MMO tbh, thats one of the hardest games to make that even most big AAA publishers have trouble with it. I can count the active great ones on one hand
@blax140
Жыл бұрын
i feel like 80% of the MMos that come out today are scams
@Dootslay4rX66
Жыл бұрын
True. I miss when MMOs were decent overall instead of full of pre-renderered footage and promises. I loved FFXI and Tera, 2 of my fav MMOs. Such shame no live is poured in to the genre that is slowly dying
@ReinertZerker
Жыл бұрын
I'm making a game called Griftopia, if you're interested. For just one(Monthly) payment of $15,000 you'll gain access to the store, there you can buy access to unlock the start menu for only $10(Hourly) to which you'll be allowed to see, there is no start button. But you can buy that too for only a mere additional $20 as DLC. Buy don't wait! If you act now, I'll throw in multiplayer free for only $99.99!
@burnin8able
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I feel like the sheer volume of assets and resources needed to make games at today's expected visual fidelity levels is just incompatible with how big an mmo has to be. Pretty much the only mmo's around today have already been around for a number of years
@snakeplissken1754
9 ай бұрын
The really sad part, clowns like this ruin any chance for someone to be taken serious in a Kickstarter anymore. Generally never been fond of the idea to hand my money to anyone based on promises for the future, sad but true, you can't trust anyone anymore.
@michaelrobinson9643
Жыл бұрын
I think it's necessary to ensure that the individuals who do things like "Dreamworld" are fully revealed and identified in public and location etc so that they are reputationally "moderated" back to the level appropriate to their honesty and aim at criminal charges or at least enforcable undertakings that prevent future business etc like any fraudsters or bankrupt businesses etc.
@michaelwebster-clark9865
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, pretty much any professional fraudster knows how to launch a new online presence pretty easily making it pretty harr for identification to act as a meaningful anti-con tool.
@JohnDoe-og2bt
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelwebster-clark9865 *Anita Sarkizeesian has entered the chat*
@GigabearPanda
Жыл бұрын
A machine that cooks food without flame or heat. Horseless carriages that guide themselves. An app that lets you hire random people to drive you places. Communications devices that use "magic" to work without wires. Sending a message from your desk to someone on the other side of the planet in under a second. Machines that allow humans to fly and split the atom. Artificial intelligence which could probably write this better than I could. All of the above were crazy ideas once upon a time. Today? A part of life. Not all things society deems impossible actually are. If we have such a standard were the mere claim of impossibility is enough to prevent someone from trying, the world is a far less innovative place. Not to be confused with actual scams, with intent to defraud people. We already have laws for that behavior.
@mitchtherevolution
Жыл бұрын
I think it's necessary to use proper punctuation and sentence structure.
@michaelrobinson9643
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchtherevolution "Correct" is the term to use, not "proper". If you are going to be a pedant, at least be good at it.
@Hogscraper
Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about most crowdfunding, like what happens on sites like kickstarter, is that they are universally known as a system wherein you give a person, that you do not know and have literally zero reason to trust, your hard earned money with no legal recourse to demand anything in return and hope for the best yet people seem to lose their minds when they're part of the ~61% of projects that never release. You actually have better odds on a coin flip yet people honestly seem shocked and start talking about laws and corruption when the project never releases...
@AStrangeWindmill
Жыл бұрын
I think the lesson to be learned is that if a Kickstarter for a high-end looking game doesn't either request at least a million in funding, or talk about funding from other sources, it's a scam. Games are expensive. MMO's are _incredibly_ expensive. You cannot make one on a low budget. If someone tells you they are going to, _it's because they have no intention of making an MMO_
@Power5
9 ай бұрын
$1mil is not enough to make a full MMO game even if it is using all UE5 assets. Unless it is just an MMO where UE5 stock assets just walk around a UE5 stock environment. Would get you 4 developers at very low salary 4 years to create an entire game. Not including all the assets to purchase, servers to purchase or lease, work space, development hardware, and lots of other business requirements.
@Grammafunk
9 ай бұрын
Looks like they started working on The Day Before the day before.
@ItzLimp
9 ай бұрын
it's like you had a crystal ball when you were talking about 'The Day Before' 😂
@ShadowEclipex
8 ай бұрын
For some reason The Day Before was on my wishlist without me ever remembering seeing anything about it before. I probably just forgot about adding it, but it's weird to think that it somehow wormed it's way onto peoples wishlists.
@myplane150
Жыл бұрын
The next announcement for The Day Before will be how sad they are but that there are unexpected causes and issues that had made them make the hard decision to cancel the game...☺
@hpharold23
Жыл бұрын
The Day Before calendar app is their escape plan all along.
@bigbearkat2010
Жыл бұрын
I would expect that their next set of workers will have to pay for the privilege
@laars0001
Жыл бұрын
Money funnelled to Putin like all businesses Russian based.
@kayn9651
Жыл бұрын
Imagine one day, The Day Before releases, and it's all they promised, and more, but it's 2027 and not only is it not impressive anymore, people are so worried it's a scam that nobody buys it so nobody sees it's a finished game, no content creators to record it or stream it, and it just sits there like the spark of hope locked in Pandora's box with everyone too afraid to open it XD
@butter1339
9 ай бұрын
It got released and it's not doing well so far
@535phobos
8 ай бұрын
@@butter1339 Understatement of the year
@blizzart9191
Жыл бұрын
Funny the egoistic world we live in: ppl are willing to donate millions of dollars for potential games and obvious scams, but not for irl donations or charities to really help other people.
@rremnar
Жыл бұрын
My opinion is 2 reasons: 1. charities are usually scams, even ones backed by the government; when they take 40-60% of money for "operational costs" and you are left wondering who they are helping. I am sure there are charities that are legit; but they are few. 2. Usually people don't care about charity. When a company does it, it's to save on taxes.
@ResidentWeevil2077
Жыл бұрын
That's because most IRL charities are also scams...
@insertname3977
Жыл бұрын
I mean, given how people thought they'd get games that they'd want to play out of those donations, it's similar to how people preorder games from AAA games. There's a sense of "I'm just paying now for something I'll get later" rather than viewing it as an act of charity.
@brianw3415
Жыл бұрын
No worries, there are tons of charities that piss away money too. Actually more charities scam than game devs.
@ResidentWeevil2077
Жыл бұрын
@@brianw3415 if people wish to donate to charity, they should donate to their local Red Cross or food bank. Globalist charities have never done anything for the causes they claim to support.
@TruckKun
Жыл бұрын
I remember getting scammed with Chronicles of Elyria and spending around 300$... After that, I guarantee I won't ever crowdfund any game again
@lflintx
11 ай бұрын
lmao. The rush of the young. That's why you shouldn't get impressed so easily. You have to keep in mind that games isn't something simple to make. It is a very complex endeavour to pull off and time demanding as well. Even the most simple games like Snake or Angry Bird clones. My brother once showed me his decent clones of such games that he developed in the short time he studied about game dev, and even something simple as that goes hundreds of lines of code. Then imagine how difficult is making a game where "you can do anything and shape it as you please."
@UtopssAKAPJ
Жыл бұрын
I saw both 'The Day Before' and 'Identity' and I was interested in it but I held back because my gut was saying it's too good to be true, I was hoping I was wrong
@unkledoda420
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations. You have at least a basic level of common sense, unlike a lot of people.
@UtopssAKAPJ
Жыл бұрын
@@unkledoda420 lol think I'm a bit higher than basic level
@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames
Жыл бұрын
I looked at the actual gameplay segment and thought, ok the player character seemed ok and destructible environment is a good boon annnnnd the towns are not full of ravenous infected but 3 quite litteral walkers.
@carlost856
Жыл бұрын
There's also basically zero downsides to waiting for a finished product and not pledge for the crowdfund. You might end up paying just a little more, but it's not like pledging entitles you to a return on investment, because it isn't an investment.
@tc-tm1my
Жыл бұрын
I had zero interest in day before. Not a fan of apocalypse survival games so i felt like it promised too much.
@Ben-zi3rz
8 ай бұрын
As a game designer, there is no bigger red-flag from anybody than "I'm making an MMO." It is the most common thing you hear from new students at university. The only people in the world that don't underestimate what it entails, are the people who have already worked on an MMO. Even then, not all of them. If someone tries to sell you their idea for an MMO, be sceptical. If someone who has never worked on an MMO tries to sell you their idea for an MMO, don't be just sceptical, become the divine avatar of the god of disbelief.
@RyanRidere
Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Scalies keeping that dragon game alive, because I don't know who would be playing it otherwise. haha. Great video!
@SovereignThrone
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this game lost a bunch of players to Wow's Dragonflight expansion lol
@VonDoughBoy
9 ай бұрын
Welp, the day before was indeed a scam and a half. It’s so bad, after 4 days, they removed it from steam and nobody can purchase the game. Make matters worse, the studio is shutting down completely.
@Maximusrex4575
Жыл бұрын
I am going to give you the most revolutionary MMO ever for 2 million dollars and 18 months of work. That alone is so unbelievable I can't believe that so many paid in. I am happy to see Lucky is getting better at not laughing during the sponsor spot. It is amazing how little people know basically about game development that they think anything good could be made on these shoestring budgets and short timelines.
@reapersasmr5483
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, and they can't blame anyone but thier selfs for giving them money, as it's common sense, and I would guess I am laughing as hard as the ones getting the money
@tsumardi
Жыл бұрын
I heard he is in european cruise ship right now also working on game blog at same time. He is definitely hard worker.
@alexanderbeardsley5465
Жыл бұрын
scummy game devs: "i am making the most awesome special sauce badass mmo in existence that will have everything under the sun AND a pet unicorn for every backer in just one year! i just need at least $100,000 to finish the project off!" ppl: "yes please! heres $1,000,000!" Scientist: "i have found a way to create a renewable energy source that is completely clean and efficient that will revolutionize the energy industry! i just need 1 year and $100,000 to finish my prototype!" ppl: "ehhhhh i call bullshit you quack."
@ETophales
Жыл бұрын
While I don't think one could produce an AAA level game with this, a small and experienced team could produce a decent game with $2M and 18 months if the game has already been worked on for a while. These scams try to give the impression that's the case.
@carlost856
Жыл бұрын
And I'm going to give you a pledge that's distinct from a pre-order, act like it's a pre-order when it doesn't work out and "invest" in the success of your company while expecting zero returns. 🤡
@OldieWan
9 ай бұрын
Damn, imagine spending 10K to be royalty and own a plot of land to call your own. And all you end up with is getting royally pissed that you got scammed.
@rushboardtechuk
Жыл бұрын
In some cases, I think many small teams misjudge the enormous amount of effort that goes into making and publishing a game. In others there are people who simply don't want to make an honest living, because anti-scam protection on crowdfunding sites is still pretty weak, so they can just get away with it. As for The Day Before, I doubt it will ever be released, but not because of the obvious plagurism - it feels more like a portfolio submission, to show prospective studios what they can do with an existing engine. This happened before with Project Offset, which was briefly pitched as an MMO in Unreal Engine 3, until Intel acquired the project and its staff... ultimately no game was released, but the modified code helped Intel optimise their Discreet GPU hardware in R&D.
@janderson5773
Жыл бұрын
Kickstarter needs to be held accountable as well as the developers. They allow scammers and even promote them lol
@unkledoda420
Жыл бұрын
So it should be Kickstarter's fault that a bunch of morons were too dumb to handle their $ without getting "scammed"?
@valconir1619
Жыл бұрын
The parents of these backers need to be held accountable as well for failing to teach their kids common sense and being smart in spending . 😂
@nunyabisniz8047
Жыл бұрын
@@valconir1619 yeah. we should go back to persecuting parents along with their children for crimes. This might force parents to actually try to be good role models.
@maxm2639
Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabisniz8047 "Persecuting" means going after a person or group with harassment, trumped-up charges, and other formal & informal attempts to harm or destroy them. "Prosecuting" means using the court system to attempt to convict and penalize someone or some group legally for a specific offense or offenses. I think you meant to use "prosecuting."
@nunyabisniz8047
Жыл бұрын
@@maxm2639 oh! sorry about that
@sourcheeks
Жыл бұрын
I am actually shocked to hear the lawsuit against Soulbound was dismissed.
@carlost856
Жыл бұрын
I'm not, the terms you agree to make your transaction a pledge. It's different from a pre-order or an investment. You need to know what you spend your money on or not be surprised by the outcomes.
@tc-tm1my
Жыл бұрын
This is why I don't donate to kickstarter. The game wouldn't have been allowed on steam's early access.
@RaiderNic99
Жыл бұрын
Day of Dragons is basically just a chat room at this point. People just get on, roleplay, and that's about it.
@highfive7689
Жыл бұрын
The Day Before can be described as "bait and switch", it a legal term in which you are sold something and at the last minute you are given something different. Usually of less quality than was promised.
@nortyfiner
Жыл бұрын
I hesitate to mention another gaming review channel, but I think it's relevant in this case. Force Gaming has done several videos about all the problems with The Day Before, and they're worth a look in relation to what LG says here.
@Texas240
Жыл бұрын
As long as the developer says, "still under development", it's legally not a crime.
@Hexiad
7 ай бұрын
Some of these should just be called _Money Laundry: The Game_ Seriously, when he said that four people donated $2k each I pictured Jason Bateman with his hands tied making a scrubby motion saying "Let me wasssssshhhh your money, hombre"
@OddlyIncredible
Жыл бұрын
I along with most of my gaming group got suckered in by Chronicles of Elyria. Not happy about getting screwed over, and I'll probably never back a crowdfund again.
@theaussieperspective
Жыл бұрын
:(
@glennwatson3313
Жыл бұрын
How did you fall for such an obvious scam?
@OddlyIncredible
Жыл бұрын
@@glennwatson3313 We all thought of it as "this may well be too good to be true, but if they pull off even a fraction of this plan it'll be interesting," and our expectations were tempered accordingly. Turns out to be all of the first half and none of the second.
@michaelheckmann3791
Жыл бұрын
A video about MMO scams promoting a MMO scam, isn't ironic.
@StepOnMina
Жыл бұрын
Informative video, and very well put together. It is certainly wild the future we are entering, where it's becoming so easy to create a beautiful game without doing any work and trick people into thinking it's the real deal. This applies to a lot more than gaming, of course, as you well know. I wonder where we go from here.
@LuckyGhost
Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@murkypuddle33
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's so crazy how people are taking advantage of our good nature. Most of us just want to support and help them with the development. The more they do this, the less people are going to trust these guys. I think cool, honest developers and the community are going to be the ones to suffer ultimately due to lack of trust / funding. : /
@sik3xploit
Жыл бұрын
It gives my mind a metaphor of WW1. Field technology updated but the regular man on the foot and his technical smarts did not. We need to update and be sure to be wise of scammers.
@willischwabe1324
Жыл бұрын
Look at people like Pierogy from Scammer Payback. There are people of good nature who do what's right. And of course, the rest of us, who is neither a scammer nor someone actively fighting it. But at least we can stay informed and maybe help those around us to not fall for such things.
@SFoX-On-Air
Жыл бұрын
'Don't pay for games that are not yet finished' is not just good advice for the games in this video. It's good advice for all games that exist and will come in the future. Stop funding early access, betas, and preview versions. The entire pre-order culture has never brought anything good.
@michaelyork4554
Жыл бұрын
"Let The Buyer Beware" gives a digital license to steal. P. T. Barnum would be a Happy Man in today's world
@Kerbezena
9 ай бұрын
On The Day Before: "I hope they prove all of the doubters wrong, but as right now history would suggest this game will be sold in early access before dropping in a state that is completely unfit for release, ultimately being abandoned by the developer again." Saying that you had "nailed it" nine months ago would be a huge understatement.
@LuckyGhost
9 ай бұрын
lol damn, I'm tweeting this comment
@TheRubberDuck77
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, most of these were devs getting in over their heads at best and true scams at worst, But Day of Dragons I have been following since the Kickstarter, was a backer and not been disappointed at all. Jao was actually very vocal to backers. I think the problem was him not being as transparent to everyone else. He had told us backers actually in the proof of concept alpha that that is all it was. Proof of concept. and readily told us it was store assets. The initial kickstarter was actually specifically to replace the store assets with custom ones(just the models I think which is why it was so low). And he got WAY more money than that so he added more stuff in terms of tiers. The 4 lines of code thing was just him testing out that networking stuff in steam. and not the actual game, that part had been totally mis-represented. He then showed us backers where the money was being spent as it was being spent. Modelers, animators, sound, music ect. The current game is more than what you said. There is survival elements (food and water and being able to sniff out sources of them and sickness in early forms), you can spawn as a new baby OR be hatched in to a pair of players. and there is a whole inherited traits system to try to breed up the stats. There is "crafting skins" system, that part I am not too familiar with. They have also shared the roadmap and updated it several times, and staying pretty close to it. So at least that one has done pretty well, yes it took him longer than he thought. But it is getting there. I actually mainly play on the offical rp-pve server tho do try the pvp one from time to time. Will probably switch to CvC or DvE when 1.0 comes out... speaking of which.... 1.0 is just around the corner too btw, with new game modes, planned, more AI stuff to fight to go along with that (can't wait fo the giant crocs like creatures). They are finally releasing the elementals for factions, ie servers that are dragons vs elementals. which is what pve was originally supposed to be, instead of the lil bug things running around to kill and eat now which is the new pve(elementals won't spawn, and I am unclear if elementals will be AI, players or both) clan vs clan, so only clanned dragons can fight each other, but the ai buggos and elementals can still be fought by un-clanned. and then of course the true pvp free for all servers... right now they just have the pve (ai buggos) and pvp Still fun tho. Right now testing still uses the old alpha desert/oasis map which was that asset store map, and live uses the custom mountainy forest map. With 1.0 if I remember right the new megamap will be launching too.. can't wait for it. ALSO a new weather system coming, and there will be a new dragon down the road that can summon lightning during a storm, they showed it off on the test server to Anthomnia... looks awesome.
@lyanahowe1357
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing an early version of Chronicles of Elyria, but it wasn’t to move around as a character but more of a point and click… I didn’t actually pay for anything, so naturally when people started to get land and mansions/castles in exchange for real money, I noped out because I was cheap and in high school. 😅
@drunkbillygoat
Жыл бұрын
The only game I supported on kickstarter was my time at sandrock. Only because my time at Port was so good. I felt comfortable supporting sandrock and I'm glad I did.
@darkflux
9 ай бұрын
why ANYONE would shell out ANY amount of money to random strangers who promise them something is beyond me. i know a fellow who sent a vast portion of his inheritance money to some guy in China to fund a "Children's Orphanage". an orphanage which he sent pictures of once it was built. however, how could you ever know if this was a building that was built recently, or had already been built? and how would you verify it was even an orphanage, and not some other building? trust should not be given, it should be earned. if you do not know someone, don't blindly trust them. especially where money is involved...
@xenic2494
Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel because of your FF14 videos and now you drop a video on one of my favourite topics - scam mmos. I got lucky this week 😄
@ABZer0x_x
Жыл бұрын
"The last game you'll ever play" that almost sounds like a threat 😂
@TheDJMeyer85
Жыл бұрын
I’d say another common theme of these scams is they promise a game where “you can do whatever you want” in the game
@momonga.
8 ай бұрын
16:40 it's scary how accurate this was 9 months later
@arkenfalgurd5860
Жыл бұрын
Kickstarter is part of the problem, they should control the projects on their platform to prevent scams. i just find absurd people give away thousend of money away for games developing, i think as all firms the investment should come from the companies themself, not the gamers...but it's not my money, everyone is free to do what they want with them.
@Power5
Жыл бұрын
Then kickstarter would not make any money.
@reapersasmr5483
Жыл бұрын
I would just use common sense
@reapersasmr5483
Жыл бұрын
But yes they are , you are correct about that , if these people did 10 min of research before giving money, that alone would save alot of them.
@oblivion5390
Жыл бұрын
it's not Kickstarter's fault that people are so dumb
@ProfQuibblefingers64
8 ай бұрын
Watching this now and seeing the absolute state of The Day Before, shutting down sales after less than 4 days and the game servers entirely after 45 days......
@lasagnakob9908
Жыл бұрын
Promising unrealistic goals Check Asking for laughably little money to do said goals Check Asset flips Check Several delays before a failed/dropped launch Check And all these people probably graduated to crypto scammer. Remember folks, if somebody is promising something too good to be true, chances are it is. At the very least I'd just be skeptical and watch before shelling money into it.
@OrderOTCB
Жыл бұрын
Very fun video, and informative! The things that hurt me about these scams is that... even if the developers are in over their head or not, they end up taking advantage of people's trust, promising something they can't deliver. I remember Identity, I used to go on the website and read what people were saying. I was a little kid, and I'd never tried investing in a game before. I didn't know how it worked and didn't have a good concept of what a very obvious scam would be. And I wanted to be nice, so when other people started getting vocal about how obviously the developers weren't doing anything, I tried poitning out the few models the developers had posted, as if the mods showing off a shiny new beachball and desk meant they'd actually done anything. It's awful, because yeah, in retrospect, I was being naive. And I was lucky to have only bought the early access key and nothing else, so it wasn't like I lost a ton of money. But... just... argh. It's easy to say "this is obviously a scam", and sometimes it really is just easy to say that and turn away. But I can't help but feel bad for people who wanted to be trusting and support others. And I can't help but be upset at developers who took advantage of others.
@DrSmithDVM
Жыл бұрын
The more stories I see like this, the more I realize that Star Citizen is doing something completely unheard of and pretty much unbelievable.
@jeffroLife
Жыл бұрын
IT will destroy crowd funding as we know it when people realize its never going to be "game ready"
@Biscuit1rl
8 ай бұрын
the day before has been officially cancelled as of 11december 2023. Fntastic announced their closure, stating that as their game had "failed financially" they could not afford to continue operating.
@chadnorris8257
Жыл бұрын
I was actually following Chronicles of Elyria. I didn't have extra money to spend supporting this game, so I dodged a bullet, but I was kind of hyped that this could be what invigorated my desire for an MMO after getting tired of Lord of the Rings Online. Then it came out that everything was a scam. I also heard about the Day of Dragons scam. Not the other ones, though.
@defrte
Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you even consider doing that lmao. You're always buying into a start up. The developers are not legally required to produce anything
@chadnorris8257
Жыл бұрын
@@defrte Ignorance, I suppose.
@downzeitor
Жыл бұрын
there is a saying in my country which states something like "everyday a conman and a normal person go out of their homes, the day they meet, is a day that a deal is done"
@imzesok
Жыл бұрын
"Don't give these people money until we have a real, finished product." is great advice for buying games in general. Don't preorder anything, ever. Make them prove themselves worthy of your money first. If it's not in your hands, it doesn't exist yet, and there's always the chance it never will. This goes double for kickstart projects. People with brains know if you don't have the funds to do the thing: You don't try to do the thing anyway and then go the extra step and try to make others pay for it too. Assume all game projects on that and similar sites are likely going to be scams. Learn from the mistakes other people have made, and don't invest. 😎
@khylerbane4523
Жыл бұрын
That’s my motto on life and dlc as a whole.
@ETophales
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go this far. If you're totally risk-averse, then maybe, but in a lot of cases pretty decent products wouldn't exist if people weren't willing to risk some money on them. Most of the products I backed on Kickstarter ended up fulfilling at least most of the promise. You just need to do some due diligence, look for warning signs, and decide what's an acceptable loss.
@dawnfire82
Жыл бұрын
Niche topics and experimental projects will never get funded, if everyone had that mentality. You know why big studios normally only produce boring, safe sequels, prequels, and reboots of known IPs? This. It's not worth trying something new, in case it fails. And if there's no way for an experimenter to get money in advance, experiments don't get funded and you only get the boring crap. Same problem in Hollywood.
@RanivusCh
9 ай бұрын
This aged well
@JesseKerson
Жыл бұрын
Clicked on this thinking oh this will tell me what happened to Chronicles of Elyria. I kickstarted a couple games, but never pulled the trigger on CoE, and couldn't explain why. I was certainly excited for the snake oil they were selling.
@maxm2639
Жыл бұрын
This is a great series of summaries of some of the most notorious crowd-funded games that under-delivered or never delivered at all. It avoids making unsupported accusations and labels speculation as such. Highly recommended!
@jbonkerz
Жыл бұрын
Some of the games I have bought in to during early access that I have not been disappointed by are Satisfactory; 7 Days to Die; Timberborn; Grounded; Green Hell; The Forest; UnReal World; Raft; Stone Shard; Rimworld; Project Zomboid; Ark: Survival Evolved; Valheim; Neo Scavenger; and Lords & Villeins. Honourable mention goes to the developer of Under the Ocean. So the game did fail during early access which sucks. But the developer was open and honest about what happened between him and the other person working on the game and even offered to refund everyone's money who bought the game. For those who decided to not refund the game, the dev gave a steam key to another game he made called Fistful of Gun. So while the game ended in failure, the dev wasn't human garbage and tried to amend things with the community. There are probably some more that I have forgotten that I purchased in early access that turned out well in my opinion. There is also a huge list of games that I am glad I did not get that were abandoned by their dev team.
@SirDistic
Жыл бұрын
Wow! I never backed a game in any type of kickstarter or similar funding prior to release. But I've played Ark, Rimworld, Project Zomboid, Raft, The Forest, Grounded, Timberborn, 7 Days to Die, Satisfactory. Rimworld and Ark alone I have over 2000 hours in each.
@jbonkerz
Жыл бұрын
@@SirDistic Technically speaking 7DTD is still in early access. So congrats you have bought in to an early access game!
@Lilitha11
Жыл бұрын
I have bought a lot of early access games, but I don't think any of them have ever failed. My rule of thumb is never go into early access if it is an alpha build. That is what will get you killed. Going in when you have a playable beta and most core functions done, and just adding more content, is fairly low risk. Especially if you can get your money worth just playing the early access by itself, which you often can with later stages of early access.
@80sOutrunFan
Жыл бұрын
The glory days of 90 till mid 2000's are long gone. Miss you UO!
@sociallyferal4237
Жыл бұрын
One thing I found quite Amazing is during the Identity section when talking about how he set up another studio to be hired by his main one for that Furballs game - in the sidebar of the website you are showing - it has the devs as: Phony Games Inc. While this might be inclined to make you think mobile phone games - it seems more spelt like Phony meaning 'False'. Like a tongue in cheek way of letting you know it's fake. . . LOL.
@ETophales
Жыл бұрын
Good catch. Looks like there's at least a little bit of honesty there. :)
@Bigmark928
9 ай бұрын
Came back to this video because I could’ve sworn someone called that the day before is a scam… great call 😂
@christoffer1125
Жыл бұрын
This is a really high quality video. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it, keep it up
@LuckyGhost
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@apocryphal_man
9 ай бұрын
The amount or gullibility on one side and amorality on the other side is breathtaking.
@scribes8472
Жыл бұрын
Whoever contributed to these kickstarters are as smart as a box of rocks. lol
@Heidelmann
Жыл бұрын
Board games are worse. The product looks nearly complete. Only needing funding to print and ship.
@stifynbaker2914
Жыл бұрын
"It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money." W. C. Fields. Scam artists have always existed and will always exist as long as people allow them too.
@happyzahn8031
Жыл бұрын
I have only sponsored 1 game, KOE. It's an adventure/fighting game based on learning Japanese. Learning the words help you level up and fight and unlock areas, etc. I thought it was an intriguing and reachable goal. The screen shots were not over the top nor was the promised game. A beta and some updates were released after a few years as he wanted to release something instead of waiting until it was really finished. The guy (and we the backers) found out it cost a lot more in time and effort than he originally imagined but he really wants to see it through as he will release it sometime at the end of this year, 10th anniversary of the project, 2023. It actually works in its present form so at least he got something out that works well. I guess I dodged a bullet as a backer although I didn't put in more that $50. Happy ending but a long, long slog. Too bad it took so long as my daughters are all grown and have moved on :)
@ETophales
Жыл бұрын
I backed quite a few projects (including KOE). Several of them were by well known devs and got finished. Several were by less well known devs and still got released (like Zenith). A few fizzled out and a few others are still being worked on, like City of Titans (which I only supported with $5). All in all, my experience is reasonably positive, but the maximum I ever pledged to a game was $50 (for Torment: Tides of Numenera).
@cjhmdm
Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the biggest MMO scams that you somehow missed is Camelot Unchained...
@thebeardsmith
Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Loved it! Are you planning on doing more in the future? Maybe even focus on one game and do a deep dive.
@Aflacist
Жыл бұрын
Maybe do a video greatest successes
@hectorplz2813
Жыл бұрын
the ad segment seamlessly integrates to the list of scams
@EskoLuontola
Жыл бұрын
3:24 The placement of the laughing man was golden. 🤣🤣
@kimjongun2081
9 ай бұрын
16:42 holy prophetic
@larryredenbaugh6854
10 ай бұрын
It turns into malice as soon as the developer sees that its not going as planned but continues to ask for money. Like I understand being in over your head, asking for money because you really think you can do it but then realizing you're not quite there yet. At that point a person with good intent is going to be honest and say that they were in over their head and either refund the money while continuing development to hone in their skills to maybe one day complete it. Or, tell people they can refund if they'd like, that you'd still be working on the game, and be honest about the process.
@shonailo
Жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like the Day of Dragon's one isn't as intentionally scammy, when you consider his Kickstarter goal was so low, and so over exceeded by the backers. So the dev had to start coming up with value based promises, that they initially never thought they'd have to. If you consider that they set out to make a $12k dragon simulator in 2 months, and compare that to what they delivered, it's actually not that bad of a story, (I've never played the game, or heard of it outside this video). I think the dev looks bad for lying about the code, for sure. But if you look at the whole story against the results, I'm ruling this one as a small indy dev, getting in way over their head after a kickstarter campaign ran away from them. No way they were expecting half a million dollars in success from that kickstarter, nor could they produce a half-million dollar game by themselves. People ended up getting what he set out to make, a $12k game where you play as a dragon, and do very little.
@jemal999
9 ай бұрын
in light of recent events, Change your mind yet?
@norbertnagy5514
8 ай бұрын
What are the recent events
@norbertnagy5514
8 ай бұрын
Nevermind, i read the steam reviews. Its about the toxic devs right?
@BobOrKlaus
Жыл бұрын
6:18 its not only fantastic advice for games on this list, its fantastic advice for literally ANY game ever (look at cyberpunks launch, battlefield, and some that were not that big but still released very much unfinished)
@MrMintyfreshsmell
Жыл бұрын
I remember talking about all of these mmos on reddit at one point or another, and there were countless smooth brain copium boys who refused to even entertain the thought of these games never releasing. Backers = 🤡
@nortyfiner
Жыл бұрын
Scams like these are part of why I have stopped being a beta tester, stopped doing early access, stopped supporting ANYTHING on Kickstarter, not paying for or putting my time into any game until I actually see the released product. If something seems too good to be true, it almost always is. Especially in the gaming world.
@anthonyortega1585
Жыл бұрын
I came here for the thumbnail
@Korandon
10 ай бұрын
My brain: Where's... Lucky Ghost: Next up, Dreamworld. My Brain: Ah, like clockwork.
@TheZoenGaming
Жыл бұрын
Crowdfunding and Early Access is basically donations. It's absolutely a joke to expect a court to rule in your favor, it's going to be a rare occasion that you get your money back via a court order. On the other hand, there is a possibility to claim it on your income taxes.
@reapersasmr5483
Жыл бұрын
They don't deserve anything , it's common sense. These games just take your money but yet people keep giving it to them , so it's no one's fault but the people giving money
@SirensQuest
Жыл бұрын
A lot of these games came out or were conceived during a time when the phrase "Fake it till you make it" was popular. I think a few of them took it to heart.
@JK-Visions
Жыл бұрын
I never knew this happened. Great advice. I will be more carefull when buying a pre-released game.
@dangingerich2559
Жыл бұрын
A "scam" is intended to deceive right from the beginning. Starting a project and failing is NOT a scam. That's just failure. It happens, a lot, with small businesses. That doesn't mean it's anyone's evil intent. Example: there was a "console" a guy got a bunch of investment for, back in the days before crowdfunding, but instead of developing anything with the money, he basically partied and marketed it all away, without any product. After 3 years of promises, his investors finally sued him, and he skipped out of town with the remaining money. He had never intended to provide a product. THAT was a scam. As opposed to Anonabox. The creator raised money, and had a product that could have succeeded, but failed to take into account the costs of mass production and any management of delivery of the product. Mismanagement caused the failure there, not the intent to deceive.
@TheRubeeRose
Жыл бұрын
Chronicles of Elyria: that was the one that got me. I didn't give them much (about $100 or so, it's been a while now). I certainly couldn't afford the higher levels. I hung on every email/notification, etc. It was sad. The idea was incredible. But I soon realised that I wasn't going to see any game soon. I figured they'd get no more money from me.
@MxZaza
Жыл бұрын
Dang, how did the character creation screen of Elyria go from looking like a AAA titles to looking like something made with Rec Room Studios? 🤣
@Mantis_AB
Жыл бұрын
The Day Before has broken my heart so many times yet I'm still willing to give it another chance😔
@hammerheadcorvette4
Жыл бұрын
Don't.
@purson117
Жыл бұрын
8 years of development for Elyria? Star citizen would like to have a word.
@Wha73v3r
Жыл бұрын
or Starfield ^^ or GTA 6
@BreandanOCiarrai
Жыл бұрын
@@Wha73v3r - or Duke Nukem Forever :D
@whyjnot420
Жыл бұрын
As sad as it is to say, for way too many of these failed kickstarters of all sorts, the people who threw money at them have only themselves to blame when they are disappointed in what, if anything, comes from it. Every, single, time, I hear about some kickstarter such as the ones here (maybe not Day of Dragons, but definitely the rest) there are huge red flags that are so visible they practically beat people to death. I have backed 3 kickstarter games, one of which I did just for shits and giggles while the other 2 I cared about. Both of those, Iron Harvest and Subverse gave me what I expected. Including the nice tat from Iron Harvest for a decent pledge. Iron Harvest ended up being a little late getting that stuff out to people, but in the end they did, and it was precisely what I thought it would be. Why would I back those 2 and not a hundred others that looked promising? The people behind both had track records that were proven, either from previous games or "other" works they had released (trying to be family friendly here, look up what Subverse is and who made it if you don't know :D). The other game died off, but like I said, I backed it for the lols, so I don't care. Really the only complaint I have with what I backed was that, while it was not anything promised, Iron Harvest did release an expansion faction which I still had to purchase. Other expansion/dlc stuff they promised, I got, so no complaint there... its just that for a pledge that could have bought the game 4 times over (I had been following news of this game since it was less than a rumor, due to the 1920+ artwork and world it is directly based on, imagine a dieselpunk wh40k, the artwork is beyond gorgeous) I felt that they should have given it out as a bonus thank you, for those who had made those relatively decent pledges. This isn't even a full complaint, because I got exactly what I expected to get from them, more of a "you know, it would have been nice..." thing. To end, while certainly immoral, I almost don't feel bad for people who get got by obvious BS from kickstarter or anything like that. If they do not do their due diligence, well, like I started this with, they have only themselves to blame. Nobody strongarmed them, nobody put a gun to their head, while they did not vett (swedish word, look it up, good word). That said, I really wish there was more recourse people could take against the scumbags that use kickstarter or similar as a way to make a quick buck by promising the moon and delivering utter garbage. Without the ability to take such recourse in any meaningful way, scumbags are incentivized to do this again and again. Some get away with it again and again as well and that, that pisses me the hell off.
@EBEDieandRetry
Жыл бұрын
You're a king guy isn't it ? In your world People being scammed should blame themselves.. I'm pretty sure you think all raped women should blame themselves too because red flags blabla.. In my world.. the bad and evils are the bad and evils.. no excusesyy and I would fight the bad so strongly, mercilessly, that nearly no one would choose that way..
@wowgmplayer
Жыл бұрын
You are a real motherfucker for making us look shit up while you could just write the answer 😂
@DonMatek
Жыл бұрын
I heard recently that unreal engine wasn't built to handle mmo's and that reasonable limit for one server would be around 100 players.
@ZeroFocu5
9 ай бұрын
The foresight in this video :')
@LuckyGhost
9 ай бұрын
the signs were definitely there!
@marlboro9tibike
8 ай бұрын
As the Christ Roberdts says, "fake it until you make it"😂
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