Even though this is likely the top comment, it's still underrated
@FerretWarlord1
Жыл бұрын
Eh kills demons and doesn't afraid of anything
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
Жыл бұрын
"Mount Pain" looks like a "Hill of inconvenience."
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
Papercut Panopticon.
@kevinhernandez2594
Жыл бұрын
Butte hurt
@blakecacini8016
Жыл бұрын
Mont-Pain 🥖
@johns1625
11 ай бұрын
Mound Peen
@davisdf3064
9 ай бұрын
Bump of slight distress
@fabianrios9659
Жыл бұрын
it's always hilarious when decino references mtapin27 and vice versa. The best doomtubers ever
@weaseln_hecktorplaysgames9625
Жыл бұрын
Coincidence: 😢
@misharatkevich9808
Жыл бұрын
@@weaseln_hecktorplaysgames9625 Every facerocket is a Coincident reference.
@leningrad4268
Жыл бұрын
"Mount Pain"? More like the "Foot-hill of Discomfort"
@ji604
Жыл бұрын
Watching and listening to him hopelessly try to herd the Baron into the Cyberdemon at 59:58 is hilarious 😂. It goes on for an entire minute!
@myhandleiswhat
Жыл бұрын
Map 26 looks like it was made with the explicit goal to not use anything but straight lines.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
Someone toggled the ORTHO function in Doom Builder and couldn't shut it down.
@dinitroacetylen
Жыл бұрын
Acktchshually, all linedefs in Doom are technically straight.
@HatemKhattab
Жыл бұрын
Baron in map30 was like: "Nope, I'm outta here."
@zoolapin
Жыл бұрын
1:00:33 the baron that does not want to do Decino's bidding and decides to walk away from his job
@goonerw27
Жыл бұрын
I had to check. There's a monster-blocking linedef on the top of the stairs in this version (it's not there in the original).
@Emu0181
Жыл бұрын
Map 26 is more of what I would expect from a project where the mapper is trying to recreate strictly from memory, it has the broad strokes, but lacking detail and polish, as opposed to a virtual 1:1 recreation
@mapron1
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, for map26 I see mapper did not played the map JUST before making from memory (so it probably was 10 year+ memory). For some map I feel like mapper played both original and recreation several times to fix errors...
@EMDakka
Жыл бұрын
@@mapron1 I think that they oughta play the recreation at least once to make sure its not unplayably borken (as in, can be finished), any reproduced quirks (like the softlock on an earlier map) are either cheating (checking the original) or VERY good memory.
@mapron1
Жыл бұрын
@@EMDakka recreation - sure, play dozen times, I meant original map playing. That was not meant to be offense for map26 maker! (it a bit poor look, yeah, but that person took project goal 100% serious) Sorry for being ambiguous
@matiasrapallini3404
Жыл бұрын
Something i noticed in 1:02:09 is that you can hear the icon of sin's pain sound when all the caged monsters wake up. That could explain why the icon of sin died in only one rocket.
@maltardraco9555
Жыл бұрын
It's nice to know that the opening to Heack still works after 30 years. PS. Those disappearing rockets into the wall is very cursed. Also: I can't wait for Plutonia from memory too.
@AresKusa
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I don't know why this set me off the way it did but decino doing a little 'dance' to the "epic guitar solo" on MAP26 had me absolutely cracking up. What a day brightener.
@maiyannah
Жыл бұрын
"MtPain is overhated" Hey I like the Dean of Doom too. We should make a fan club.
@Kepesk
Жыл бұрын
It's been really enjoyable to watch Decino's original videos on TNT, then watch these. Can't believe it's been three years already.
@Phryj
Жыл бұрын
That Map26 was made by the same mapper who made this WAD's take on Habitat. "That One Map" was different and clever, "Volcanic Touch" seems redundant and derivative by comparison, like copying your own homework for a different assignment.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too. It was funny with That One Map because even something that simple and barebones was better than Habitat. Volcanic Touch is a repeat joke and repeat jokes ain't funny; not to mention Ballistyx is nowhere near as worthy of being clowned on as Habitat.
@TheBrassDancer
Жыл бұрын
MAP26: decino's nonchalant reaction to seeing the low-effort recreation says it all for me. Perfectly cursed. Nice MIDI though. MAP27: mOuNt PaIn MAP28: That start is definitely hotter than any of my exes. RIP monetisation obviously. MAP29: That Spiderdemon was a little better than its usual F tier status. C tier at highest. Those crushers are S tier though, as well as the chance to pull a Coincident in that Baron room. MAP30: That Cyberdemon standing there like Farquaad, “Some of you demons may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.” The torch puzzle is clever though.
@Aanodino
4 ай бұрын
It was so cute of you going to the corner to recall the torch colours at 55:55 is adorable
@KernelLeak
Жыл бұрын
24:15 Looks more like the infamous cruise liner "Pain-tanic" to me...
@bambu7031
Жыл бұрын
Map 26 looks not completely out of place in wolfenstein 3d
@PICKLESIEMER
Жыл бұрын
lmao that baron just left the room calmly
@iguana9173
Жыл бұрын
Just the video I need for a Sunday afternoon.
@kulrigalestout
Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing dog bark in the song used for map 29. Not sure what the instrument is supposed to be, but all I hear is "bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork"
@vibesplaneoverflow-bz1xy
Жыл бұрын
It makes me happy Decino is a fan of MtPain27.
@riba2233
Жыл бұрын
Haha I was dead when that baron walked into the hallway, he was like ime nope I'm out of here :D btw this was so awesome, can't wait for plutonia from memory!
@hebonky
Жыл бұрын
damn that mountain is T H I C C
@MrNimbleBear
Жыл бұрын
This was great. Really looking forward to recreated Plutonia!
@jaybee2185
Жыл бұрын
Escarpment of some discomfort
@BigMacDavis
Жыл бұрын
14:58 - Decino an elitist confirmed. 15:14 - Decino not an elitist confirmed. 17:04 - Honestly, the first half of Mount Pain, minus the Disaster Area, is actually really enjoyable, and gives a great challenge, with its minimal health, corridor sniping, exploration, etc. But then THAT area totally erases whatever happiness I had with the first half - it's hard for the wrong reasons, way too wide open, way too many Lost Souls pestering you from the admittedly awesome looking Mount Pain in the distance, way too little health, your gameplay grinds to a halt if you don't have the skill to rush through, and halfway through this horrendous part, you're ready to just be done with the map already, and that sentiment is exacerbated when you happen to die in that area and have to redo the whole map again. It's not fun.
@maltardraco9555
Жыл бұрын
Having areas that are too large with too little going on is a problem with later TNT maps in general. The only thing I remember from this map is being squished by a crusher 3 seconds into the map and having to then pistol start it, which was not fun.
@eu-rn1xb
Жыл бұрын
finally decino and MAP27: Mount Pain found each other!
@nIceViewer
Жыл бұрын
No matter how much you practice Mt Pain or try to want to like the map, something goes wrong, not enough health to recover from RNG-esus, and survival becomes the goal no matter what. Too bad the mapper here was too true to the original and while some minor enhancements were made (a good job recreating from memory), didn't give a something not right to sell people on the map's potential.
@nbrocx4216
Жыл бұрын
@@nIceViewer I wouldn't go that far. Map27 is actually more enjoyable for me to play than maps 25 and 22. And, with a good amount of practice, you actually can beat this map without too many issues. RNG could be an issue if you are playing fast and trying to speedrun, but if you play it safe, you'll clear the map 9 out of 10 times. I've even played this map on UV Fast, inspired by decino's playthrough long ago, and it really isn't as bad as you make it out to be. I disliked this map a long time ago too. But, as I got better at the game, and played harder wads like Valiant, Sunlust, etc, I realized that MtPain is over-hated. The more you practice, the easier it becomes to beat this map. And this is certainly true for me. Also, largely thanks to the original midi for map27, this map has great replayability value for me.
@jedziej
Жыл бұрын
Its so absurd, i think a lot of people are so spoiled nowadays with that complaining over design. I will agree that in gameplay term tnt & master levels expansions are not perfect, but they got vibe, really.
@AjStormheart
Жыл бұрын
After seeing Map27 all I can say is "look what they did to my boy!", also you aren't alone with remembering the floor lowering after getting the yellow key, the yellow key was also a almost pitch black room. Like Map08 in Doom2 Mount Pain holds a special place in my heart from my childhood, its ok Mount Pain, they can't hurt you anymore.
@XzMondayNightzX
Жыл бұрын
A welcomed break from the madness of My house. Maybe...this tnt map set is inducing a type of psychological break on me though. "This room as a single imp... and the next one a fat imp.... then we put an entire agitated skeleton in a secret."
@junkolover9518
Жыл бұрын
Was map 26 recreated by the same guy that recreated map 15 in Doom 2? Like it feels as if he didn't even badly remembered the map, he remembered someone talking about that map, never playing TNT himself. And it's not possible to not remember that altar...
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
Nah, the map15 recreator had bad memory but at least he was funny in what he did. That one definitely had effort and cheek invested in it. Can't say the same about this gutterball in place of Ballistyx.
@Ioannis29
Жыл бұрын
48:02 OMG an absolute throwback on the Sarcophagus room in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES! A health pick-up was placed beyond the trap making it impossible to get. I said the exact same thing you did just now! 😄
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
Жыл бұрын
At last the final episode of TNT but something is not right with good old decino. In conclusion this particular wad is honestly I found it really funny and excited to me and some of the maps are hilarious rather than cringe. So yeah I definitely did enjoy this one.
@BrianM_3rd
Жыл бұрын
More like Mount Pain-Peko. Oof. Look how they massacred my boy.
@napoleon32
Жыл бұрын
Truly the work of a war criminal
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
I was NOT expecting a reference to Usada Pekora here. I was expecting even less how appropriate it was. Poor Mount Pain.
@georgeheilman885
Жыл бұрын
Slightly Discomforting Hill could also be a good description for Map 27. Nice win on Map 30.
@johndoe7270
Жыл бұрын
Just one of these "..But Something's Not Right" I would love to see some Warrens Shenanigans turned up a notch, in a slaughter troll like manner. You step on the exit teleport and walls lower to show a BFG and a huge playground. If you can't tell, I loved E1M7. That cyberdemon was light hearted trolling.
@Flyxolydian91
Жыл бұрын
Fair play to whoever remade River Styx, my favourite of the the original TNT WAD. They smashed it!
@anonymouspatapon
Жыл бұрын
that ain't mount pain that's hurt hill
@PrismaticAngel
Жыл бұрын
Wow, MtPain really let himself go
@user-kw4qx4qu8c
Жыл бұрын
Ballistyx. My eyes hurts, my memory hurts, my soul hurts. Why it's even exists? Ah, nevermind, send it to Civvie. Mount Pain. Fireblu in a way is like purring. If kot purrs, you can forgive anything to him. But mountain is really sad. Heck. Now that's a rough start.
@justinholland9844
Жыл бұрын
Mt. Pain has collapsed into a heap of despair.
@ronkan1369
Жыл бұрын
Decino, you won't see this but I gotta say - you're my favourite youtuber ever. There's nothing more satisfying than binge-watching one of your playthroughs and feeling that rush of excitement. It's hard to describe, but when I watch your videos, I feel complete. Like I'm sitting next to you and having a blast. It's not just you though, as the whole doom community feels like this. They feel like family. It's in a way, so beautiful. I feel happy. Thank you so much for doing this.
@JesusEPena_17
Жыл бұрын
For the torch puzzle I only write the first letter of the color on a paper sheet
@DarkQuill
Жыл бұрын
Changing the order of the torches in Map30 is the meanest. How can people forget the classic RGGBGBGBGGRBRB
@Brentastrophe
Жыл бұрын
I like the evilution spaceship just being a vague "suggestion" on the title screen tbh. "Yeah that looks like a space ship... whatever"
@Qoko88
Жыл бұрын
1:00:45 for. f. sake. that cost me half my coffee 🤣 just the casual stroll and you can hear your frustration increasing. Enjoyed this playthrough but I'll be honest, I definitely have more memory of DOOM II then any other IWAD. We never owned DOOM I or Final DOOM so I played those like one and a half year ago for the first time. I'm definitely recognizing some errors (I do adore Ballistyx and River Styx if just for the difficulty on a fresh playthrough so see the former like this is... confusing) but most I don't. Interested what's next.
@PersephoneStars
Жыл бұрын
With this set of maps is really funny how they go from TNT long spaces to smaller space and more enemies. Like if somehow the difficulty of Plutonia sprinkled over some of the recreations.
@lukebehrendsbro.
Жыл бұрын
Well time for me to say something about all these maps. Map 26, Hmm......not better than original but it's not bad of a map either so......overall this map has curse, & it's also okay. Map 27, once again, if decino likes this map than the original, than it's fine with me George! Map 28, Even hard than the original cause of Cyberdemon so.....yikes that's a curse there for sure ah for this it's good. Map 29, some curse I see and yet once again it's a good map, just a note here decino, you forgot the MegaSphere as well from the hidden wood panel's like the 4 tech panels as well cause I remember that MegaSphere there from the original thanks to BMD showing me that hidden item out of nowhere. As for map 30, I do like this a little more than original so therefore it's an alright map imo. Overall I might like this wad more than TNT original period due to because it is alot fun there so this was a treat to see! Well done you guys! This was awesome! And also thank you for this whole video decino! 👏
@Nob1ej0n
Жыл бұрын
Wow, MAP26 was so cursed I had to look up the original just to know what map it was even trying to be. That was awful! I was actually impressed with MAP29. The entrance to the marble structure was more open that the original, but for some reason I liked it better that way. Also, the baron and cyber refusing to dance was hilariously upsetting. Freaking pathing AI! Haha
@manaiathorpe4785
Жыл бұрын
I watched BMD walkthrough of map 26 and it looked nothing at all like it lol i did how ever like thier version because of the cemetery of the room great job Decino love your content
@infinitebit1255
Жыл бұрын
Forever will the doom community be a everlasting battle now that Decino and Bigmacdavis have contradicting viewpoints on Mount Pain.
@adre2194
3 ай бұрын
Decino using up _all_ his rockets playing with the hungry wall, lamenting he wasted all his rockets, then finding more only to immediately use them up in the exact same way was something very special.
@Phryj
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I enjoy playing Mt. Pain. It has the same issue a lot of the maps do, where there's long corridors, large rooms, etc. seemingly just there to make the map bigger/take longer to complete. A LOT of the problems could be improved by trimming down connecting passages and putting more interesting fights in the large areas. That said, even though I can see the problems with the maps, I've still always enjoyed playing through TNT: Evilution, and I keep going back to it.
@lankymaccrazyhair264
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. One of the few maps Decino praised, Mount Pain, is actually one of the lower teir maps in my mind. It's an ok map and all, but it overstays it's welcome in my opinion. You don't even get to see the signature mountain until past the point the map should have ended. (In my opinion)
@tornado100able
Жыл бұрын
Man, i wasn't remembering how cool that marble mansion/mausoleum used to look on map29! And also i never knew about the torches collor sequence was a hint!!! It makes so much sense for me now
@nickplaysviola
Жыл бұрын
Decino being reckless. We love to see it
@EwMusik68KydAvonWestCarti
Жыл бұрын
I litterrally just pistol started ballistyx on ITYD to get a sense for the map if I ever am going to do an ultravoilence the game, AND I CANT TELL WHAT EACH AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS MOD.
@audiosurfarchive
Жыл бұрын
For those wondering, I did end up doing the first part of Cursed compilation, MAP01-10 kzitem.info/news/bejne/o6Nu0ZuKqGZhapw
@x1teDota
Жыл бұрын
20:55 mt pain in widescreen
@MrEW1985
Жыл бұрын
After "Sunlust" and all the difficult maps you seem to impressed by the first trap in the video.
@solliderfull
Жыл бұрын
32:55 that baron was quite damaged by the first arachno and almost killed the second one too
@clearspira
Жыл бұрын
What was the person in charge of this mod thinking allowing Map 26? If I was him I would be embarrassed to say that I greenlit that monstrosity. Easily the worst map of any of the three ''Something Wrong'' mods you've played so far.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
You could argue that E4M5 was worse, but at least it had an amusing fault.
@zarnox3071
Жыл бұрын
Are you forgetting the one with the tag 0 shenanigans?
@TheNihalngopi
Жыл бұрын
Ah cursed Mt. Pain. Although BigMacDavis would say the OG map was cursed anyway (I remember his walkthrough of the map, lol).
@user-xq9wm8gj8y
Жыл бұрын
Somebody doesn't love ballistyx very much
@2manyghosts
Жыл бұрын
7:02- new patreon subscriber name idea- 'Agonizing Mountain Pain' ?? :0
@cwp24
Жыл бұрын
25:53 god damn, talk about a hot start
@Nuclearstomp
Жыл бұрын
Well that was a fun ending. I'm kind of wondering if you had more fun with the recreated levels or the originals overall.
@SmokerFace12
Жыл бұрын
Came for the map 28 midi, im happy.
@Olek54321
Жыл бұрын
That was so fun to watch :D I don't know why, but I enjoyed more watching TNT than Ancient Aliens (this not means AA is bad or something!!) TNT has something special in it's weirdness :D I tried to play some Ultimate Doom recently from pistol start and UV with no saves (I've never tried to play that way) and I need a few days to get use to movement. I haven't played for a while and for me Doomguy is running too fast and it feels like I'm walking on the ice :D
@irishgerman98
Жыл бұрын
Hey Decino, I was wondering if you could do a Doom 64 sound effects origins video. I really liked your video on the Classic Doom sound effects
@BigPashPlays
Жыл бұрын
A pumpkin walks into a bar and plays cursed Dean of Doom
@crit-c4637
Жыл бұрын
Wow! River Styx was a really good recreation. They even got the green armor secret correct.
@CalavErik
Жыл бұрын
Oh look, it's the French Bread Mountain.
@nangsanbhalangblah333
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the og doom wads in a "The way we wished they were" to balance out the cursed nature of these wads
@EMDakka
Жыл бұрын
That would be even more cursed. because for me? they'd all be slaugther maps xD
@jrock718
Жыл бұрын
Nice run pumpkin man
@mamimoemoe
Жыл бұрын
Grade : A+ Difficulty : CURSED
@eu-rn1xb
Жыл бұрын
hey, decino, I'm MAP27: Mount Pain I came to you, friend!
@makhauser42
Жыл бұрын
06:35 General decino, you are the Pumpkin one
@OmegaTyrant
Жыл бұрын
Heck is my favorite TNT map and it was cursed in a good way here, but I'm so used to hearing Abyssal Mystery for it, so hearing the original crappy midi for it instead was so cursed itself.
@Vamptonius
Жыл бұрын
11:29 - I still have their tour T-shirt.
@Hydronisa
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Map 29 even had the pillars of ammo in the second to last room. A very good recreation of that map.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
Very good, but way cursed. Why is the inside of the marble fortress flooded with blood? Where's the lava?
@larsthedude1984
Жыл бұрын
Now I have to know if there’s a Plutonia “But Something’s Not Right” map pack
@violentbeetle2441
Жыл бұрын
It's being developed right now.
@CabalCorporation
Жыл бұрын
I've noticed that Revenant's missiles hit you more often recently than in the past. I think a bit more training is in order.
@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon
Жыл бұрын
Map 26 was almost unforgivable lol. Mapper must've had almost no memory and just decided to crap out a quick 1 hour job and move on. 🤣
@starfruit2007
Жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh tnt❤
@kitpalencar5165
Жыл бұрын
Decino is welcome at my house for dinner any day.
@dansimon1100
Жыл бұрын
Yup a lot of it was different but pretty similar on some of the maps.
@caidensluss-kt6dw
Жыл бұрын
I like TNT evilution
@steubens7
Жыл бұрын
the big open area where the fireblue is in mtpain seems not as bad as average, not having dead end hallways helps a bunch. it makes it look like not a bad idea
@procow2274
Жыл бұрын
The real friends are the revenants we made along the way 🙂
@rndmguy69
11 ай бұрын
1:00:36 After trying so hard to hit the cyberdemon, the baron didnt like that very much and ran away
@T-West
Жыл бұрын
That map 26 opening looks like a Hell Revealed 1 map.
@VolcanoPenguin
Жыл бұрын
I remember the color order of the original map30: R G G B G B G B G G R B R B Didn't look it up, so if I'm wrong then I just made a fool of myself.
@creaturetypesorcery
Жыл бұрын
The mountain looked like a stranded ship
@rodrigoabarca3014
Жыл бұрын
1:00:40 That baron just noped out
@TheRilluma
Жыл бұрын
funny how you go to the corner of the room to memorize the order of torches you studied :D
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor
Жыл бұрын
Geographical accident of discomfort
@theshep
Жыл бұрын
heck yea bro
@Krevetkozavr3000
Жыл бұрын
Decino, u’r great “blind” runner
@dinitroacetylen
Жыл бұрын
1:00:46 -- still a better love story than _Twilight_
Пікірлер: 215