Why is that whenever somebody says tone is in the fingers, they're always playing through a setup that costs more than your car? 😁
@stevenaustin4591
4 жыл бұрын
I challenged a college tutor on this, to play an emotional epic solo on a cheap guitar (
@RandomJammer
5 жыл бұрын
When I listen to some of the earlier guitar players such as say Grant Green for example, the takeaway for me is totally all those 4 tenets you’ve discussed here. There is often much more that lies beneath the surface as to what, how and why a ‘seasoned’ player does what they do and life experience plays a huge part in perhaps conveying a certain emotion in ones playing. Great video David 👍
@suavetrainwreck7300
5 жыл бұрын
I think tone is in the guitar and amp but hopefully we can bring it to life somehow.
@superflysoulbrother
5 жыл бұрын
Its on the guitar, the knob even has tone written right on the top of it! No wonder keyboard players think were stupid
@snogglemonkey
5 жыл бұрын
Scott Gallagher I don't think that's exactly what is being talked about here. When guitar players talk about 'tone' they're talking about something far more sophisticated than the tone control on an electric guitar.
@JRCGuitarist
4 жыл бұрын
John Actually, we are talking about the same tone as what the knob on the guitar does. Often times when people say “tone is in the fingers” they are either putting down gear heads or challenging the notion that gear is necessary. It is heavily frowned upon for one to emphasise gear in certain circles in the guitar community, since a lot of players feel that one’s style, often confused as tone, is more important. Which is why in this argument people quickly say, “I can tell David Gilmour, no matter what gear he uses.” But this is not tone, this is style. With this said, a lot of great players have utilised the tone knob in the iconic tone, whether rolling it off or on, to get a specific tone.
@berniejii3739
5 жыл бұрын
Perfect ending David. It's taking a long time but I am beginning to put my attention on those points more. The 'spiritual' aspect is the most powerful and most worth listening to.
@TheD33pthawt
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! So glad I found your channel! This video really hit the mark for me, I know it’s been up for almost half a year but I’m a new subscriber and just found it. I agree with you and Carlos that the tone really starts in your spiritual center and travels from there, even if you are “reciting” a part, hopefully, it is filtering through your soul first.
@jamesjackson573
5 жыл бұрын
I did not anticipate where you were going with this but you got me. Brilliant analysis and explanation. You have probably helped me overcome what is missing in my musical experience. I had it when I was younger but I have been neglecting the emotional aspect of playing and listening. Thank you for that.
@glennkrzeminski7539
5 жыл бұрын
Tone is not in your fingers? Of course it's in your fingers! Along with your pick, where on the string you pick, your string gauge, your attack, bridge style, guitar, cord, preamp, amp, effects... I don't know why people confuse tone with style and phrasing.
@asshat3842
5 жыл бұрын
the key to tone is in your attitude. You will sound the way you feel. You need to be in the mood to feel the music. So just like running, you have to build endurance. How long can you play the guitar and keep locked in until you start loosing focus and want to do something else. So you have to build up a type of musical endurance until your able to be locked in like SRV
@farqueleyou7578
2 жыл бұрын
Name checks out
@TLMuse
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, fellow Wallimann students! Show David some love on V-day. Turns out the guitar instruction site, TrueFire, is having a V-Day sale. Every hour different videos go on sale. David has two TrueFire videos (on GAGED playing, and pentatonics), both excellent and worth it even at the full price. But you'll probably be able to pick one or both up on sale at some point during the sale. (TrueFire tip: Usually at the end of the sale, all of the sale videos get discounted at once for a day; I believe this sale ends on Feb 20; can't guarantee it'll happen this time.) truefire.com/love
@komobg6403
5 жыл бұрын
The essential part is in the fingers
@komobg6403
5 жыл бұрын
@KC I can agree on that 2 of course
@spaceshifterstereogunmachine
5 жыл бұрын
@@komobg6403 it s fingers, tq, touch.... tone described as that is timbre
@wild291
5 жыл бұрын
It always makes me smile when a guitar player try to explain with his intellect how the tone is NOT in the hands because it means the same actually. It's just a simple riddle. The tone of a guitar player comes from what he hears in his head first in a way that his muscles and hands will make him sound as he wants to.Good or bad it depends on those who listen. Every guitar player wants to reproduce the tone he "hears" in his mind so his boby adapts with practise to get THAT tone.HIS tone. I'll always remember an anecdote i read about 25 years ago. One great L.A sound engineer,i don't remember his name came to the mixing room of a studio in L.A to see a friend of his. They started to talk and he hears through the speakers there was some guy playing in the studio he couldn't see him but thought he really sounded like EVH. The player came after a while and it was EVH indeed. After he talked to his friend he went to the studio room to check what gear Eddy was playing and he was totally surprised to see that the guitar was not at all one of Eddy's but a guitar picked from the wall of the studio and none of what he played was his gear. Saying the tone of a musician is NOT in his hands is kinda like saying the style of a painter is not in his. The is pure BS! The tone is in the hands of the player as the truth is in the eye of the beholder.
@Wallimann
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, that’s kind of what I said in the video!
@vent676
5 жыл бұрын
You guys are confused. If you take 'what you want to hear', 'what your brain and body can do', and 'what your instrument, effects, amps and speakers do to modify your sound', throw them all together and call the result 'tone', you've done nothing to define what tone is. Rather, you've mixed in a lot of other musical factors and moved father away from knowing what tone is. Likewise, if you recognize a musician by his playing, and from that fact alone conclude that his tone must have been what made him recognizable, you're missing the point. You've been listening to his timing, his intonation, his phrasing, his choice of notes, all these factors make a person recognizable through his music. That is not to say tone isn't formed by the way you move your hands on the guitar. It's how hard you pick the string, it's where you pick relative to the bridge. It's how hard you press down on the string, and how you move your fretting fingers when the note rings out. So, someone's tone is how their notes sound.
@wild291
5 жыл бұрын
@@vent676 " It's how hard you pick the string, it's where you pick relative to the bridge. It's how hard you press down on the string, and how you move your fretting fingers when the note rings out. So, someone's tone is how their notes sound." Thanks for saying exactly what David and i said some other way. David said "Tone is in the hands " of the player,saying it's in his mind,i said it my way,you said it yours and we all said it the same in the end. Difference is you don't understand we all said the same thing.
@vent676
5 жыл бұрын
@@wild291 Sure, all the same. Don't worry about it. No need for difficult explanations, just everybody says the same thing. No need to distinguish between rhythm and timing, between frequency and timbre, it's all tone man! Rejoice!
@startrekmike
3 жыл бұрын
Every time the whole "tone is in the fingers" debate comes up, someone always tells a variation of the anecdote you just recited. Sometimes it is EVH, Sometimes it is some other famous guitarist. Either way, the anecdote always ends up ending the same way. The problem with these kinds of stories is that they really, really miss the larger point of the debate. If I were to go to your house and play your guitar through your effects and amplifiers, I would still PLAY like me. Anyone who had already heard my playing would recognize my playing style, technique, phrasing, and general musical approach right away. That stuff tends to stand out first and foremost in people's minds. This is where I think this whole debate really comes from. A lot of people hear the technique, phrasing, and general play style and just kinda start blurting out stuff about "tone being in the fingers" without really considering the other side of that equation. Now. If I were to also bring my whole setup to your house and alternate between playing both your setup and mine, even if I PLAY exactly the same, the SOUND coming out of the speaker wouldn't be the same. The playing would. The technique, phrasing, and all that would be the same and you would still recognize that it was me playing but the actual sound produced by the guitar, effects, and amplifier would not magically be the same as well. Another example of what I am talking about can be found on a few of the Eric Clapton concerts that have been filmed and put on video. There was one he did called 'Live in Hyde Park' where he switches from his usual signature Strat to a Gibson 335. His playing does not change. You can still very, very clearly tell it is Eric Clapton playing just by the phrasing and musical sensibilities but the SOUND is very different. It sounds like Eric Clapton playing through a 335. To get a bit more precise, we are really talking about the difference between technique and timbre. Technique is our part of the equation. It is our playing style and musicality. That is the part that comes from our head and through the muscles of our arms, hands, and fingers. This is the part that makes us the most recognizable. The other part is "timbre". This is the range of sounds our guitars, effects, and amplifiers are designed to deliver. This is where the important distinction happens and it is where gear really, really does actually matter. We cannot magically make a Gibson Les Paul sound like a Stratocaster. We cannot make a Twin Reverb sound like a JCM800 with just our magic fingers alone. Gear may not be as important as learning to play, practicing, and understanding how music works but it is still important because we can't magically make something produce sounds it isn't designed to produce. When I hear someone say "don't worry about what amp to buy, tone is in the fingers!" I am hearing someone who is dismissing a valid and important discussion. I am hearing someone who bought into a sentimental slogan without really thinking about it.
@crunch_amp9282
5 жыл бұрын
Once you can actually play guitar it becomes a tone Chase the best thing to do is to plug in to the front side of a tube amp do not buy effects processors the only thing they do make. you play less than mess with the settings more. Buy digital or analog foot pedals for what you think you need and use them on the settings and then play your guitar become the best you can
@checcob7906
5 жыл бұрын
That video opened my mind
@kennybenally7187
6 ай бұрын
Everything you DO and what you're using DOES affect your tone. What you're explaining after the 10:00 mark proves it.
@Spidouz
5 жыл бұрын
3:00 actually between your ears and the speaker(s) there’s something... Air ;)
@chhau123
5 жыл бұрын
Phil Smith and the room or environment that the you’re in.. Amen
@shysingh
5 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect explanation.. it’s all on the ear
@aleatoriac7356
5 жыл бұрын
Tone is a process, and the label ain't the thing. Patterns and relationships with boundary conditions and so on, it all depends on what one means by "tone." Excellent video for the most part, thanks!
@ViniAndradeMusic
5 жыл бұрын
Well I'm looking at your lesson files, well thanks for that! I have a question. Do you have modes from the minor scale? Or the modes are only relative to the major scale?
@mandovid
5 жыл бұрын
so how should I use the "tone" knob of my guitar? I always put it in the higher number and never move it
@Fireglo
5 жыл бұрын
Slash puts it really low.
@mitchellturnbull3988
4 жыл бұрын
Mando Vid I rarely touch it. It stays all the way on. I have used it when changing different styles of music without touching a lot of my EQ on my amp, but that’s almost the only time I use it.
@davidsmith-jj4iq
5 жыл бұрын
So much of music ,comes from your own life experience/other inspirations ,Gary Moore says it all.
@briancraig1684
5 жыл бұрын
My weakness as The Lord Knows is hearing the notes in my mind ear what do you do to practice this ?
@jasonb7949
5 жыл бұрын
Spoken by a master. Great dissection!
@yashramawat1063
5 жыл бұрын
What's the song at the end @ David wallimann? That solo sounds so cool!
@Wallimann
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's from an unreleased project...
@yashramawat1063
5 жыл бұрын
@@Wallimann well then we are waiting, do release soon ☺️ gotta steal that one 😁
@jackzango427
5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that when people say that tone is in the fingers they don't explain that it's not literally the tone, but it's your technical ability. The way you personally finger notes and pick them. Obviously the guitar, stomps and amplifier have a lot more to do with your sound. Nowadays that whole art is lost because all the amps are digitized.
@snogglemonkey
5 жыл бұрын
Some tone comes from the hands for sure - I realize that there is a whole raft of other components, but the fingers create something when they strike the strings - especially if the player is not using a pick. The better you get at guitar, the more you know how to strike the strings in many different ways to elicit a tone that your equipment will amplify. I would say that the name of this vid: Tone is NOT in your Fingers, is a little misleading. Some of the tone comes from the player.
@JRCGuitarist
4 жыл бұрын
John I would argue that saying “tone is in the fingers” is greatly misleading. Often times what people are talking about is not tone but technique and style. Very little of tone comes from fingers and is usually about how one frets the notes, where, the fleshy sound compared to the pick sound, these are small parts of tone compared to the physical parts, the gear. With this said, I think “Tone is in the fingers” is largely false and misleading more so than arguing it’s not.
@ioodyssey3740
3 жыл бұрын
Tone = TALENT
@farqueleyou7578
2 жыл бұрын
A man of culture, I see
@Martin7182
5 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. Tone comes from the strings, nothing else. Music comes from the brain and in principle doesn't need a guitar or whatever. IMO, the guitar is only an instrument to make music audible. So, what is your point exactly?
@mitchellturnbull3988
4 жыл бұрын
Martin7182 All wrong. The wood, hardware, nut, everything about the guitar creates tone. Look up Paul Reed Smith’s “21 Rules of tone”. He’s figure it out, down to a science. How you play and how much you abuse the strings all play into it. Tone is a package deal, An all inclusive basket of things that create the tone of a guitar.
@parkearth
5 жыл бұрын
you nailed it
@dime_life4768
5 жыл бұрын
it is when your unplugged or acoustic
@lgwappo
2 жыл бұрын
Tone is in my toes. I use them to select what pedals I want.
@jackzango427
5 жыл бұрын
For tone to really be in the fingers, you first have to be playing through a tube amp with NOT a whole lot of effects or stomp boxes.
@gonzaburdiatmonticelli8703
5 жыл бұрын
I think yes tone is in your fingers. Nobody can define the magic of music. music is magical. Theres always something more. Improvising came from the heart its magic .You dont need expensive gear to developes your own sound. Famous guitarrist only needs a little gear and pedals. Like mark knofler. . Very interesting topic.
@sisajtegabre
5 жыл бұрын
yep imho about that Carlos was talking no need for fancy gear and fact is i had chance to hear some of my heroes with pretty shity gear and they sound dame good....
@sisajtegabre
5 жыл бұрын
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@timothyd9543
3 жыл бұрын
I would ask anyone who think this ridiculousness: WHY do people buy Rickenbacker anything? WHAT exactly do you call that famous jangly sound on Ticket To Ride, Turn Turn Turn, and every early REM song? The entire success of Rickenbacker and Fender is predicated on the idea that a Strat sounds different from a Tele and different from a 360. It is the entire reason why guitar players switch guitars. We won't even get into preamps and amps. It isn't even partly true. The idea that tone is in your fingers is idiotic. 'But, but why does Geddy Lee sound different from Jaco?' Because they each play their STYLE. But they both sound like a guy playing a Jazz bass. If tone were in your fingers, you would have no choice but to conclude that 'The Waiting' would sound exactly the same if Tom Petty played that song with a Les Paul. I think anyone with two ears knows that it sounds like Tom Petty playing a Rickenbacker 12 string.
@wulfenii64
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@tomas-wi8dy
5 жыл бұрын
the tone come from soul, but is not to strong, it is enhanced by mind, then 'materialise' over the body with the hardware (guitar/amp/ ...), ... the mind re-process asking the soul 'is the way?' - then again the hole path, until is armony between - what the singer want to share and what he/she can express (never will be 100% accurate)
@AllanGildea
5 жыл бұрын
Wise words, thank you.
@dondefact3541
5 жыл бұрын
You got to feel the groove.
@estern001
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just wow. Thank you
@Caged63Man
5 жыл бұрын
Tell that Andy Martin, whom shows the various types of guitar pedals, and uses zero picks..and let's not forget all the famous guitarists that have all their tone from their fingers and have managed to escape the crutch we Call a plectrum..indeed amps, pedals, and everything in between the guitar signal, offers up umlimited tones and textures...but yet we can still point out that tone of a guitarist just by their own personal 'tone', that we ourselves want and mimic!
@Wallimann
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! What I was trying to convey though is that it’s more than fingers. It’s intent, emotional bagage, personality etc. I find that just thinking about all those things that “make” tone super useful in one’s musical development.
@ludovicburonfosse4529
5 жыл бұрын
C'est a la fois très vague et tellement vrai.
@sisajtegabre
5 жыл бұрын
i'm not super huge fan or Satriani ( i do like Him a lot) but seems to me Carlos was talking about this, sorry for 2nd comment ..like Gary M no matter Charvel with EMG's, Hamer both with FR, or old start with single coils, or LP with old PAF's etc he sounded dam same ☺kzitem.info/news/bejne/wIGQ0IqQhaWGaag
@sisajtegabre
5 жыл бұрын
wow i think Carlos was talking about equipment meaning no need to have few 3000E/$ guitar etc to sound good, if i give you Harley Benton or let say some fancy guitar, tube amp or digital etc you will sound like David W. That was IMHO idea to have recognizable sound and it is like that, of course sound will be different with DS, flange, trough small speakers, with single coil VS humbacker etc but that is just few small % of extra color, main thing is guitarist...Of course fact that Carlos was playing super expensive PRS ☺ with other super expensive equipment was far from ''practice what you preach'' ☺..I like to remember EVH, George Lynch, Brian May etc players who made $ but still they play their self made guitars that were far far away from expensive...that was the point IMHO, that player have to develop good tone and unique sound to have His style
@GravityFarm
5 жыл бұрын
Tone is wherever you say it is.
@JaniceLalla
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@johnhunter377
5 жыл бұрын
Tone is the inner voice within the heart, soul, and spirit. The equipment simply amplifies what comes from inside the body.
@instrumentenfreak
5 жыл бұрын
I like to say "The melody is in your fingers". Your equipment is just the tool to make it happen.
@nethbt
5 жыл бұрын
Ok.. You give Guthrie Govan a Cheap Squier connected to a Line 6 amp I'm pretty sure he'd sound immensely better than 99. 8 percent of the population who owns exquisite gear
@dcoch2000
5 жыл бұрын
"I realize now that only vintage TS808s have the mojo. I'll get one. Ebay will have one....then I'll have tone." Hitler can't quite match Stevie Ray Vaughan's tone... and he's not happy about it. kzitem.info/news/bejne/xa172Z6Eb3R2lHo
@MarioHernandez-zc7dv
3 жыл бұрын
Tone is not in the fingers. Your playing style should be what's in the fingers.
@semin811
5 жыл бұрын
I thought you were gonna say "It's in the brain, not the fingers, you idiots!" haha. But the video was much more helpful than that. As always, you're the one instructor that makes my guitar playing-life more fulfilling. So much better than learning a bunch of new licks and scales. Thank you David!
@denniscochran1878
5 жыл бұрын
!
@samizdat113
2 жыл бұрын
There us zero truth to the saying "Tone is in your fingers." Technique is in your fingers. Tobe is 100% in your equipment.
@noeffnwaypal
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say, but your attack by your fingers aids in you tone. Mick Mars plays so aggressively that his finger attack defines his tone!
@Wallimann
5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree! It's part of the full thing! :)
@gdevelek
5 жыл бұрын
ears... speakers.... ears... speakers.... That's too deep for me. I'm outta here.
@joshofofw945
5 жыл бұрын
Ill say %75 on ur finger
@SoundingSix
5 жыл бұрын
Good tone comes from blood, sweat and tears.
@joebloggs1444
5 жыл бұрын
Your tone is in your fingers. We all sound the same no matter what amp n guitar we are using....
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