Hahaha the train to the node analogy is hilarious!
@anSealgair
10 жыл бұрын
The rail line part is absolute gold! It is the cherry on top of the cake, Tony.
@HxCSounds
10 жыл бұрын
Micalef is an Australian Stephen Colbert. Love this show!
@mvo40
11 жыл бұрын
i love the train part so true
@Potenti4lz
9 жыл бұрын
aha, superb analog at the end! Good way to sum it up for lay people. FTTN will require upgrading much much sooner than FTTP. FTTP has the potential to last over 100 years without being physically touched. Just as Copper did 100 years ago and still does somewhat today for us. (With huge Fibre backbones pulling our weight).
@Nopresnik
11 жыл бұрын
Oh, this is so awesome!
@Poleticstv
11 жыл бұрын
This weeks Mad as Hell on ABC.
@XxLiveMusicxX
10 жыл бұрын
this guy is now a legend!
@eyebandmusic
11 жыл бұрын
Pure Gold!
@i4ittwasdis
9 жыл бұрын
Watching on my 0.85Mbit/second NBN connection. Give me an hour to buffer it.
@twtnk9
10 жыл бұрын
thank you for the updates on the nbnco ,who are very shy about saying anything ,we had cable put in our street and when asked what happens next i was met with ablank stare ,im sure staff or contractors are forbidden to say nill ,amazing without youtube we recieve no news ,only stupid political talk from mr broadband?,william
@Larwood.
11 жыл бұрын
Note that the fibre itself is capable of terabit speeds (1,000,000 mbit) and higher, only the electronics at the ends need to be upgraded for that.
@AKtheCHIMERA
9 жыл бұрын
This video helped to ease the pain of not having NBN :'(
@drakeb9093
11 жыл бұрын
25Mps is the best case bandwidth, but copper bandwidth decreases as distance from node increases. Remember that bandwidth is shared, so even if that cable if capable of X amount of bandwidth it has to be shared by the hosts on that network
@ChristoKiwi
10 жыл бұрын
I switched to NBN recently and found it was actually slower for downloads than my previous connection. Ridiculous.
@9Itian
10 жыл бұрын
What was your previous connection?
@ChristoKiwi
10 жыл бұрын
Broadband Unlimited with Optus, now on NBN Unlimited with Optus. Uploads are mildly faster, Downloads are frequently slower and never higher than 20MB a second
@gubbyitss
10 жыл бұрын
Christo Harrison If I get 1mb/s then I'm very happy. I've never had faster than 2mb/s.
@9Itian
10 жыл бұрын
Christo Harrison Impressive! That being said, the speeds you were getting from the NBN? Those were only the starting speeds. It's capable (or, was capable) of much, much, *much* higher speeds.
@mijuil
10 жыл бұрын
Christo Harrison probably because previously you would have simply received whatever the maximum your copper line could give you. on NBN you would be throttled to whatever speed tier you paid for.
@ElliotShirley
10 жыл бұрын
Fact of the matter is, CD was still denigrated by the music corporations that CD was promoting Piracy - may not be in the early days, but it can't be denied that the RIAA and the MPAA were condemning CDs when CD burning became massively commercial.
@roguemale57
10 жыл бұрын
The Coalition's Broadband Policy (CBP)& Labor's National Broadband Network (NBN) are eons apart. CBP-speeds up to 25Mbps per sec.Fibre to node then relies on Telstra's existing copper telephone line to premises. Cost of installing a Node is appx $12000.00 but, you won't get 25mbps if you're more than 800m from it unless, copper upgraded. NBN-speeds up to 1 gigabit per sec (1000 Mbps). Fibre to premises.Cost of installing a FDH is $700.00. Some NBN users already getting plans at $29.95 a month.
@NikolasSkoufis
10 жыл бұрын
We already do.
@ozbloke74
11 жыл бұрын
We refer to you as a low altitude flier in labor circles
@roguemale57
11 жыл бұрын
The Coalition's Broadband Policy (CBP)& Labor's National Broadband Network (NBN) are eons apart. CBP-speeds up to 25Mbps per sec.Fibre to node then relies on Telstra's existing copper telephone line to premises. Cost of installing a Node is appx $12000.00 but, you won't get 25mbps if you're more than? 800m from it unless, copper upgraded. NBN-speeds up to 1 gigabyte per sec (1000 Mbps). Fibre to premises.Cost of installing a FDH is $700.00. Some NBN users already getting plans at $29.95 a month.
@kennedygould
11 жыл бұрын
it really can be and it will be
@theflyingdropbear2009
10 жыл бұрын
I was referring about PM and treasurer, they are the heart and soul of any party. in this case it is egos
@robertprickett8895
11 жыл бұрын
we have fiber to the node there will be no change at all
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Now its my turn, I have ADSL2+ and so do many of my friends but we all haven't all of a sudden developed an orgasmic feeling for fibre ! I know that's hard to believe but its true ! Your right, I should embrace Tony Abbott & the coalition's improved NBN policy and I'm sure with your help you'll get as many supporters as you can muster ! Their policy minimises asbestos delays and cost blowouts which we are all suffering under a Labor/Greens/Unions lead government.
@TheJamBamAlienMan
11 жыл бұрын
i stand corrected!
@CorporateEvolution
11 жыл бұрын
I was trying to look it up, for 1080p 60fps high bit rate, the required upload for streaming and teleconferencing is 8-10mbps. The real problem with the coalition plan is that they haven't mentioned limiting how many residents are connected to each node under their plan. That can make the difference between 2mbps - 64kbps vs 400mbp/s - 125mbps/s under their plan.
@JMagicGuy
10 жыл бұрын
Hilarious :D
@chrispypancake
11 жыл бұрын
Even my 92 year old father back in darkest Wales has speeds in excess of 35 MB/sec and because he doesn't need the speed he's on the *slow* plan. When I told him of my current fastest ADSL2+ speed... i.e. 14.4 MB/sec... he laughed. I want the NBN and I want it yesterday!!
@Jay32954
11 жыл бұрын
This kinda already exists in Japan. Any station with the prefix "Shin-" is basically a node station.
@bernzeppi
11 жыл бұрын
Malcolm's been stitched... five times already.
@fcukugimmeausername
11 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that the LNP aren't laying the 'foundations of a nationwide fibre optic network in place quickly' at all. They're putting in place an expensive band aid solution. Most of which won't be used when a FTTH is ultimately rolled out.
@fcukugimmeausername
11 жыл бұрын
Plenty of facts here! Lol.
@flensdude
11 жыл бұрын
There's no offence in Australian law that criminalises people who seek asylum by getting into Australia "unauthorized", i.e. without a visa or passport. In fact in any year since late 1990s, between 70 and 97 people who have been granted protection in Australia have arrived by boat. You can easily find this information on Asylum Seeker Resource Centre's webpage.
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Some of my friends have 4K TV and I don't hear them complaining about the quality of the digital signal. Tony Abbott & the coalition have merit in how they'll restructure the NBN to prevent cost blow outs and asbestos delays & introduce a cost benefit analysis which Labor/greens/unions haven't done yet ! I also don't hear anyone complaining about the speed of ADSL2+. Roling out fibre to remote towns where satelite or wireless might be cheaper is crazy. This atitude of fibre or nothing is stupid.
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Correct !
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
I'll say that if your happy with your carrier pigeons then a mixture of ASL2+, wireless & fibre would be more then enough to take care of your daily needs provided your meagre existence could afford the monthly bill ! Did I mention that we are currently having cost blowouts (90Billion), delays, asbestos worries from the NBN who is operated by Labor/Greens/Unions ? Why don't you Google: 'copper network will last another 100 years' Your vote counts so vote for Tony Abbott & the coalition !
@GlenPeacock2202
11 жыл бұрын
"With the capability for expansion as needed".... That is, if a household, hospital, school wants fibre they'll have to pay for it....and at a premium.
@0nlakes
11 жыл бұрын
As a CS graduate, let me tell you that not building the NBN now will only cost more later. You will have fibre optics from the note to your home eventually. If you only do half now and half later, it will cost a lot more than just doing it now. Labor haven't done an amazing job whilst in office, but Tony Abbot really isn't the change we need.
@Tomace707
11 жыл бұрын
im listening amuse me
@krusi3
11 жыл бұрын
I've read it and that's where i got, "you can claim asylum if you come directly from the place of persecution"
@neuralecho
11 жыл бұрын
The monthly wholesale price for plans exceeding 100mbps are: 250/100 - $70 500/200 - $100 1000/400 -$150 BTW, the wholesale cost for 100/40mbps is $40, not $15-25. As I already said, plans exceeding 100/40 are targeted at business and high end users, and will increase the ARPU without costing lesser plan consumers. The FTTP infrastructure already supports these speeds, so nothing more needs to be rolled out. The FTTP NTD also supports 4 channels/connections, whereas FTTN only supports one.
@bernzeppi
11 жыл бұрын
That's pretty darn good. Careful, you'll have Murdoch bugging you.
@Galfadez
11 жыл бұрын
Well by setup I obviously also meant "run." You do not need 100MPS for a VPN, not even 25% of that.
@CorporateEvolution
11 жыл бұрын
The problem was that the telecommunications act did not envision the need for network infrastructure, they promoted competition at the expense of reducing the incentive to build broadband networks to near zero. If they had allowed the HFC networks to expand, we could have had 50% or more of the population covered by 100mbit broadband five or more years ago.
@neuralecho
11 жыл бұрын
The laser modules at each end of the fibre determines the speed of the connection. The initial laser modules will be capable of 1Gbps. The modules will have to be upgraded to facilitate faster speeds. Researchers in Germany and Australia have been able to achieve speeds ranging from 10,000 - 26,000 Gbps over fibre. These staggering speeds demonstrate how future proof the FTTP technology is; unlike the Coalition's FTTN network that will obsolete and have to be replaced by FTTP within 10-15 years.
@fcukugimmeausername
11 жыл бұрын
No it does not. Here's a quote from the second paragraph. They're talking about LANs. "The report looked at the costs of deploying a traditional wired network in a five-floor building with 100 users per floor compared to a wireless network of the same size. A wired network would cost US$300,000, according for Dimension Data, requiring cabling for 140 points and three 48-port switches. The wireless network would cost US$120,000, with cabling for 30 points and one 48-port switch"
@busylifemeto
10 жыл бұрын
Parrots are really quite clever you know :)
@fcukugimmeausername
11 жыл бұрын
Once you factor in roughly what it's going to cost to buy the copper from Telstra, the annual $1bn maintenance cost of maintaining the copper, the maintenance of the nodes and their batteries and that much of the existing copper and conduit will have to be replaced to allow larger gauge copper to be installed (which will have to happen to allow the Coalition to achieve their quoted minimum 50 mbps by 2019) it becomes clear that the inferior FTTN will actually end up costing more than FTTH.
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Correction, under current figures released from last Tuesday's federal budget the cost of illegal boat people to Australia has now risen from 6.5 billion to 10 billion and is projected to increase to over 12 billion before the end of 2013 !
@CorporateEvolution
11 жыл бұрын
Those plans aren't out yet, they are in if Labor wins world. HFC is an alternate FTTN where coaxial is used to connect to the homes, the Coalition has not specified encouraging more coaxial. The VDSL2 over twisted pair is their most likely choice, which has hit 60/20 in Australia already, and 100/100 overseas but that requires three times as many nodes as it seems the coalition is talking about.
@mmmMarkyyyy
3 жыл бұрын
Gold
@Knowbody42
11 жыл бұрын
The NBN is something that will improve the economy overall, because businesses benefit from faster internet speeds (especially upload speeds, which are far better with a fibre network) *and* it will generate direct revenue for the government, as long as it remains owned by the government and isn't sold off. It will pay for itself directly, and it will benefit the economy indirectly. So looking only at the cost to install is not seeing the big picture.
@CorporateEvolution
11 жыл бұрын
Toll roads and privatization of infrastructure has been conducted by both parties, including Labor recently with the NBN. In their profit forcasts the costs of broadband plans are given scope to rise, just like the tolls.
@ace9042
10 жыл бұрын
The key word being businesses. They can pay for their highspeed fibre cables to their doorstep. Not the tax payer. One question at a time.
@finnsk3
11 жыл бұрын
Also cell phone tower congestion will be a giant issue if people used it for desktop usage. When 3G usb donges started getting sold a lot of cellular towers got soo much traffic the internet was nearly unusable for thoes towers. It took MANY MANY years to fix this issue. Cellular phone towers are connected by Fiber so technically the speed of one tower is the same as one single house on NBN, put a whole CBD through one single fiber connection and see what happens.
@ashy386
11 жыл бұрын
The laugh at 0:22....LOL
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
There are a few of them :-)
@Judgeharm
11 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish they would have stated that NBN is actually 1Gb/s instead of 100mb/s as that is what NBNco has started rolling out.;.. Still super funny and spot on. I personally cannot wait try try the cheaper and more affordable trains that will give me all the transportation I require.
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
The Indonesians were right when they told Gillard in 2012 to take the honey (incentive) off the table with regard to the boat problem. Gillard has not implemented temporary protection visas (honey) for illegal refugees.
@jasonseparovic3399
11 жыл бұрын
last year Japan successfully tested 1,000 Gbps over a single fibre. Theoretically that's 5,000-10,000 times faster than the coalitions proposed network. the physical infrastructure is the key, not the boxes on the end.
@neuralecho
11 жыл бұрын
Each of the 4 UNI-D ports on the NTD is capable of supporting 1000Mbps. I rang NBNco to find out whether an NTD can support 4 simultaneous 1000Mbps services. The contact centre staff didn't have that level of technical knowledge, so they are going to get someone from their technical support area to call me back.
@777hathor
10 жыл бұрын
Oh my God
@BCT071
11 жыл бұрын
Do your part to save the NBN 21st century Australia deserves. Vote Labor.
@CorporateEvolution
11 жыл бұрын
That is one prospect that would be a huge boost for businesses potentially as currently it costs 10-100k a year for a dedicated fiber link and only large companies can afford that. All I could find were people also in the dark whether it was truly dedicated as NBNco charges more for guaranteed speeds for business. The information that's put out is somewhat limited. The advantages they talk about work on both plans but its the advantages that they don't talk about that are the most interesting.
@bainesystudios
11 жыл бұрын
Everybody is so one
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
I take it that creating your own website is more important than answering a simple question why FTTH has to be compulsory.
@Dave-gg6vl
11 жыл бұрын
Exactly thats how ESS in wireless are designed. You always have a cable backbone with any wireless solution. Even with the complex duplex emulation TDD/CDMA/FDD a wired solution will always be superior.
@Yateszzee
11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant funny.....more funny if it wasn't true....thanks for sharing....
@roguemale57
11 жыл бұрын
When Abbott was in opposition, there was this great emergency about boat arrivals and the dire state of our economy (one of the few that escaped recession). It all must've magically fixed itself because, he won't recall Parliament until late October. But, just you all wait for the big one-work choices mark 2-it's coming to a workplace near you.
@DaveAbrahams
11 жыл бұрын
That is funny, and strangely a bit sad . Shaun should be doing the nightly news
@neuralecho
11 жыл бұрын
The reason FTTN is supposed to be cheaper than FTTP is because FTTN makes use of the EXISTING twisted copper pairs. The Coalition's plan would cost as much or more than Labor's FTTP plan if they were to replace the existing copper with coax. 3 times as many nodes to achieve 100/100 would cost significantly more than their current plan, which is currently not much cheaper than Labor's $44Bn FTTP network, and then Australians would be stuck with that speed until the FTTN was replace with FTTP.
@CaptainNavman
11 жыл бұрын
Han on mate. Mr Antenna was a happy man but Mr Broadband...And as to the train system, well, imagine the fun
@Knowbody42
11 жыл бұрын
There's really a trade-off: Governments can spend more to improve the economy overall, but then they do have to make that money back. Labor has overestimated the revenue increases this year (expected 12%, actual 7%). it's still an increase though, despite the GFC, and overall Australia's overall economy is better off (faring much better than most countries).
@betula2137
2 жыл бұрын
And, now, all these years later...
@9Itian
10 жыл бұрын
This...coming from the person who constantly makes use of upper-case letters himself.
@fightington
11 жыл бұрын
1.It was held at fox studios 2.Fox is against FTTH because it would eat into their Foxtel subscriptions Labour's NBN is awesome
@gikku3
11 жыл бұрын
Its cuts deep.
@andrewszombie
11 жыл бұрын
Tony Abbott's FTTN Workers would have to deal with Asbestos
@PhallacEye
11 жыл бұрын
UK may not have FTTP as standard, but given I'm currently sync'd at 140mbit, I don't mind much.
@6Adolf6Hiller6
10 жыл бұрын
Shaun, for a Q.C you're, Quite Convincing!
@AussieBaka
10 жыл бұрын
We're trying to get our trash-talk out before we're silenced by an internet that won't even load a youtube page.
@krusi3
11 жыл бұрын
You don't get criminalized, you just get put into detention. So yes it is still illegal just like it is illegal to arrive by plane without proper documentation. All this entering as refugee can only count to people coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened. I can tell you that Indonesia isn't threatening them so there's another law that doesn't apply to them
@Knowbody42
11 жыл бұрын
Firstly, there are plenty of businesses who do need 100mbps or even more for their VPN's. Second of all, we were talking about upload speed weren't we? Upload speeds on 100mbps cable barely exceed 1mbps. Plus, you have to understand that the 100mbps speed of cable is shared between multiple premises. ADSL2+ in Australia doesn't even get 1mbps upload speed.
@fcukugimmeausername
11 жыл бұрын
Cable/DOCSIS is a shared data 'pool' though. Like wireless broadband. It's definitely not a serious alternative to FTTP when long term infrastructure is considered.
@Nalianna
11 жыл бұрын
Made me laugh. In the same way I laughed at the movie "Idiocracy" - then I threw up.
@kreme341
11 жыл бұрын
the fact is that 'boat people' weren't coming during the howard years, its only when rudd got in that they came
@isupplyu
11 жыл бұрын
@roguemale57 1) 25Mbps is about 5 times faster than most current ADSL connections. Users who need more will be able to pay for the node to premesis to get the full 100Mbps. 2) Encouraging intelligent women to breed does wonders to the gene pool. 3) True. Education is vital. 4) It wouldn't be hard to find 12k public servants who are unproductive either by attitude or by redundant roles. 5) Aid was not cut, it will continue & will grow at CPI. 6) Green living starts at home. Buy some solar panels.
@Knowbody42
11 жыл бұрын
Also, I personally would benefit greatly from 100mbps upload speed for my own VPN. It would mean actually being possible to access my files over the internet. And I don't just mean text/word documents.
@kreme341
11 жыл бұрын
and oh thats right, they also promised that they would have a surplus! just add that to the endless list of empty promises. instead theyve spend even more..
@Knowbody42
11 жыл бұрын
Actually having a VPN is not the issue. The issue is having the upload speed for it to be useful.
@amymanning6962
11 жыл бұрын
Mad As Hell with Shaun Micallef
@starcalibre
11 жыл бұрын
It's not about saving money, it's about keeping our broadband infastructure in the dark ages to protect Foxtel from competition from IPTV providers.
@Galfadez
11 жыл бұрын
A run of consecutive deficits leads to all those things you've just mentioned. "High unemployment, a low dollar value, high interest rates, and businesses and individuals would not be performing well generally." The Australian Economy is doing well because of the 11 year reign of the Howard government. 11 years of government focused on governing and not politics resulted in money being saved and a strong economy, all of which is rapidly disappearing.
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Although Telstra owns the pits & conduits, the responsibility lies with NBN Co (Labor/Greens or gov) to carry out an assessment (not Telstra) as to the state of these pits & conduits so that if any issues of safety or health that may arise can be corrected before the actual laying of the cable. It appears that Labor/Greens (NBN Co) didn’t properly carry out an assessment before hand nor inform the public about the associated health risks (asbestos) !
@AKtheCHIMERA
11 жыл бұрын
WHAT!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
@Deevo037
10 жыл бұрын
Well I'm no technical expert but in my job (automotive spare parts) we really suffer from slow connections. So many catalogues and supplier ordering systems are online these days that I waste more time waiting for screens to roll over than anything else. This is the Abbott government supporting small business for you.
@MrGeocidal
11 жыл бұрын
Now that Abbott's won the rest of the world is going to think Australia is just like it's depicted in Crocodile Dundee. - I doubt Abbott even knows how to use a computer.
@lyserg1k
11 жыл бұрын
catching a mini train to work every day? sign me up. LIBERAL!!!
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Our very own CSIRO (home grown) has developed cheap wireless called the ngara project where TV antennas are able to pick up wireless ! Its better & cheaper then the very expensive Labor & greens NBN ! Hollow optic cable is cheaper to install, requires less connects with a transfer rate of over 73 TB/s compared to the top of the line fibre !
@Matlockization
11 жыл бұрын
Alright smart arse, name for me the 5 ISP's you've tried. Why do I get the feeling that everyone I talk to in this forum is under 21 yrs of age ?????? And..............if your undecided in this coming federal election........ then vote for Tony Abbott & the Liberal National Coalition for a better future for all Aussies !!!!!!!!
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