so his logic is “i can cheat on my girlfriend with you but if you sleep with kurt cobain, you can’t come back to me”? like dude, you were literally cheating on your girlfriend at the time
@twiggsherman3641
3 жыл бұрын
Rockstars sweetie. It's about ego's. If she had banged an unknown guy he'd probably be fine, but he considered him his rival.
@User-om5bv
3 жыл бұрын
Women never understand.
@goa699
3 жыл бұрын
He prob thought kurt had the Herps
@goa699
3 жыл бұрын
He didnt want to end up like Freddy Mercury 😆
@bradydavis5791
3 жыл бұрын
@@User-om5bv Bro. Shut the fuck up. There's not much to being a shitty human being women and men aren't privy to.
@dhammaboy1203
2 жыл бұрын
Philosophical thesis: rockstar love tantrums make the greatest music! i.e. -Billy spurns Courtney we get Violet -Courtney spurns Kurt we get Heart-Shaped Box -Courtney spurns Trent Reznor we get Starf**ker Inc. -Everyone bangs everyone in Fleetwood Mac we get Rumours -Clapton bangs Pattie Boyd (Harrison's wife at the time) we get Layla And so forth....
@VuotoPneumaNN
Жыл бұрын
Clapton was not banging Pattie when he wrote Layla tho. He was obsessed with her, but she was having none of it.
@VuotoPneumaNN
Жыл бұрын
Oh, and Starfuckers Inc. was initially written about Marilyn Manson.
@brianphilippoi349
10 ай бұрын
Maybe it works both ways: Miles wanted to collaborate with Jimi shortly before he died, but Jimi sleeping with Betty apparently killed that project before it began.
@CajunRulez
7 ай бұрын
"Clapton bangs Pattie Boyd (Harrison's wife at the time) we get Layla" And yet somehow, somewhere in the middle of that love triangle(don't know exactly what events came first), we still got While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I guess the music and their friendship transcended the other BS. Lucky for us I guess.
@BeauBlueBand
Ай бұрын
..and Pretty Hate Machine was about Tori Amos
@skyenicolas7012
7 жыл бұрын
When Billy Corgan looked like the lovechild of Kristen Dunst and Ethan Hawke.
@frankelder1158
7 жыл бұрын
He looks like Amanda Knox.
@ryanguerin1010
7 жыл бұрын
OMG! HE TOTALLY DOES LOOK LIKE AMANDA KNOX!!! Hahahaha😂😂😂 or well, she looks like him w/hair.
@jodimariedomingue1452
6 жыл бұрын
SKYE NICOLAS 😂😂 bruhh
@manlymen552
6 жыл бұрын
he's white lol
@notfree2899
6 жыл бұрын
SKYE NICOLAS That's hilarious, you're right!
@toddtw33
7 жыл бұрын
Billy "Yeah but he also ruined my romance" Uh Kurt probably saved your life, you lucked out when he took her off your hands.
@465marko
5 жыл бұрын
He wasn't referring to Kurt Cobain. (Or Courtney Love). He was talking about Tom Atencio and the relationship with his girlfriend at the time.
@Poopman562
4 жыл бұрын
Who’s girlfriend
@SkrvnHiptR77
4 жыл бұрын
@@465marko half right. Tom ruined his romance with Courtney. A little fecicious comment I think.
@Swagolisious2
4 жыл бұрын
he sounded so salty
@f.r.1998
4 жыл бұрын
@@SkrvnHiptR77 nope Tom ruined the romance with Billy's girlfriend at the time. Because Tom was the one who gave courtney the money to screw her way to getting on Billy's tour.
@el34glo59
Жыл бұрын
No one more jealous of Kurt in this world than Billy Corgan. Even after his death he lives rent free. Now he takes credit for their relationship. Ffs this guys ego is INSANE
@JohnDoe-od7ye
Ай бұрын
Every interview Billy has done in the last 30 years he’s mentioned Kurt or Nirvana at least once. Indeed, wtf?
@viktoriiasamoilenko9372
2 жыл бұрын
omg there is something scary in him, all behind this"sweetness"
@ReeseChown
10 ай бұрын
He acts as if he's some mack daddy for pulling Courtney first but in reality she caused him nothing but issues
@seanpayne2470
2 ай бұрын
@@ReeseChownshe’s also kinda skanky
@julesvan
Жыл бұрын
Billy told Howard Stern he saw Courtney's photo on the back of her new single and became infatuated with her. They were on the same label and Billy called the front desk to arrange a meeting when she played in Chicago. They ended up dating, and she found out he had had a steady girlfriend the whole time she was with him in the worst possible way. Yet Courtney is always portrayed as a groupie chasing Billy...
@amymuchko7106
Жыл бұрын
🫣
@jaketedesco9497
Жыл бұрын
Billy played her cos he knew how underhanded she could be
@julesvan
Жыл бұрын
@@jaketedesco9497 Please... That's why Billy married the "steady girlfriend" in 1993 and instead of being a happily married man, he invited Courtney to go on holidays with him just before Christmas 93. Then he kept calling Courtney in March, and when her husband was no longer in this world, he cheated on his wife with Courtney in late 1994. Billy was way more into Courtney than his ex-wife.
@jaketedesco9497
Жыл бұрын
@@julesvan I'm not disputing that,, but Courtney is the grunge Jezebel. She's their JLo or Bey.
@yeetnama9094
Жыл бұрын
@@jaketedesco9497dude shut up😒 God you rabid Courtney haters are so creepy and weird.
@rickynickybillywilly3687
4 жыл бұрын
Billy sings like a kid who doesn't wanna leave a toy store
@moe5347
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo I love Smashing Pumpkins but this made me laugh hard.
@breakfastsurreal5650
4 жыл бұрын
I would have found this a little interesting when I was younger but when I listen to his story now I think these people are disgustingly immature.
@JackSmith-kp2vs
4 жыл бұрын
The grunge generation were the original ‘I’m a victim’ generation. Paved the way for the pathetic state of things now
@tomorrowmorning8360
3 жыл бұрын
Jack Smith I’m not sure I follow. Original? Long before Grunge there was this little style of music that came to be known as The Blues. And let’s not pretend original 70s punk didn’t have it’s share of the same pathos. Grunge was more likely just a natural progression on similar themes (from guys raised on a lot of Led Zeppelin), and also somewhat of a response to the perceived vacuousness of mid-late 80s big hair glam rock. I am quite obviously not a pro music historian and could have this all wrong but I think there’s some validity to my perspective.
@TheHSIHP
3 жыл бұрын
@@JackSmith-kp2vs those musicians came from shit and worked hard.
@misslori9725
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomorrowmorning8360 please leave the blues out of this
@tomorrowmorning8360
3 жыл бұрын
miss lori I think the blues are very relevant here
@especial0
Жыл бұрын
Well, we cannot deny, that those 3 are super charismatic. I love the music of each of them in a different way.
@Laura-kg9le
6 жыл бұрын
Billy had a girlfriend, but was dating courtney behind her back. Courtney shows up at his house and he kicks her house, even though he even had told her it was ok to come to chicago. ...and no one talks about how horrible billy is, just how horrible courtney is.
@StarryStarryNocturne
5 жыл бұрын
@Laura Plant Because when guys sleep around social standards say their studs and if a girl sleeps around social standards says their whores and sluts. Just like Kurt sabotaged his own relationship with Tracy, a girl that financially supported him and nurtured his art, yet he couldn't be bothered enough to get a job and keep it longer than a week for her sake and wrote a song about her where he says "i'll take advantage while you hang me out to dry", where Kurt's pretty much saying he'll take what he can out of it, justifying it by implying she's hanging him out to dry, when she did the exact opposite of that, but somehow if Kurt had relationship troubles with Courtney, it was ALL Courtney's fault.
@StarryStarryNocturne
5 жыл бұрын
@Archimedes Reincarnated Ignoring the silly petty nonsense of a fragile little man: Kurt only made Bleach, which led to Nevermind (what made him Rich) because Tracy let him lounge around and do nothing but paint and write songs without having to worry about paying bills or keeping a job while supporting him financially. As far what makes a whore a whore and why society differentiates, well... everything you said was pretty much a confirmation of everything suspected in that "catch phrase." This was your attitude and bizarre logic: "Hey, the guys only slept around a few times, so they're not whores (even if one of them was clearly cheating and not caring that he was.) The whore (what you probably call girls behind their backs in your failed adventures to get laid, as silly guys like you tend to do) meanwhile banged more people, therefore your femanazi propaganda (sound reasoning) is a bunch of wah-wah crying bs." You're the one that's the real stereotype here.
@musicsavedme3534
5 жыл бұрын
Think they’re both as bad as each other really
@patriciapedercini7935
5 жыл бұрын
Laura Plant They’re both gross but his music ROCKS even more than Nirvana’s and her “music” was a fucking joke. Like her. An ugly gross joke.
@kristinewhitfield4110
4 жыл бұрын
@@StarryStarryNocturne Yeah well nobodys perfect. Courtney was awful though, she was so pissed at Kurt for not performing at Laplooza bc of MONEY. Who cares how her husband felt or what he wanted bc she wanted the money. I can see why he wanted to divorce her but didnt get the chance to. Alot was her fault and so was his death. When someone came foward to say she offered them 50,000$ to blow kurts brains out and make it look like a suicide and that person DID pass a cpl lie detector test. Then ironically ends up dead bc he drunkely stumbled on railroad tracks. Hmm weird....also with a list of others involved ending up dead. Since they didnt get divorced she got alot of money and rights to nirvana! She didnt give a fuck and sold his journal to press!!! That woman doesnt have a heart and her own PI she hired figured it out.
@mywhychromosome
3 жыл бұрын
Random trivia: The Hole song "Violet" (in my opinion their best tune) has its roots in a poem Courtney wrote about Corgan, I believe called "Beneath the Boy"
@dhammaboy1203
2 жыл бұрын
Violet is such a great song that it shows that rock star tantrums have their own objective worth! 😂 Billy made another great song just by being an ass to Courtney! In turn Courtney inspired great music by pissing of her husband and later Trent Reznor!
@amymuchko7106
Жыл бұрын
Can share that?
@manifestgtr
6 жыл бұрын
Certain women just have a THING about them. When you look at them, they aren’t “objectively” beautiful but there’s something so magnetic, hyper sexualized, whatever you wanna call it about their vibe that they reel guys in. I know a few chicks like that. They aren’t ugly by any means but they aren’t what you’d call classic beauties. Yet they’ve cultivated something intangible that’s deeply attractive to men. I can imagine that this is what courtney love circa 1992 had going on. You see her in pictures and it’s a bit of a head scratcher but you know she must’ve had something going on. There’s no way...there’s just no fucking way that she would’ve landed such influential figures of the era otherwise.
@peterheinzelmann3335
6 жыл бұрын
Uhm, shame on me but I'm pretty sure she was just a "well, you can fuck me if you want" type of bitch. And she wasn't too ugly, not too beatiful, so that will work on most guys. Kurt even stated that he was mostly attracted to her sexuality in the beginning.
@bangmygavel
6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Courtney said in an interview: “Us girls who grew up a little more homely had to try a lot harder.”
@MegKampen
5 жыл бұрын
@@bangmygavel She said pretty girls aren't good in bed because they don't have to be. Courtney much of it is between your ears and not between your legs. No woman has to be anything in bed.It is how you feel about someone that determines what kind of lover you are and if you are passionate by nature. She never learned that.
@UberLummox
5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't as much of a beauty thing as it was/is her sociopathic, mega controlling, plasma robbing, soul draining, machine-gun-mouthed, homocidal "charm". She's an actress and a full blown narcissist that can control a "weaker", or calmer or a more quiet inward soul like Cobain. By the time he recognized her for what she really was, it was way too late.
@copheart
4 жыл бұрын
@@jn1346 I think yr projecting
@user-hw6kq1fn2l
4 жыл бұрын
Billy and Courtney were lovers even when she was Kurt's wife. Kurt realized that. That's why he played "She's my best friend's girl (and she used to be mine)" in Germany , I guess, during In Utero tour.
@Angelsanddevils
2 жыл бұрын
Omg this is hilarious. I love how nonchalant Billy was. She showed up looking sexy ready to rock…
@patkawasaki771
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, can you imagine what two egos like Billy amd Courtney would be like together? Probably something like the collision that created the moon.
@lolbears123
12 жыл бұрын
as we say in pumpkins' world
@copheart
4 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I know. He's so lame.
@eliskull
3 жыл бұрын
cringe
@shunyataberlin
3 жыл бұрын
@@copheart lame??
@candymiller3304
3 жыл бұрын
Courtney tells the best stories and always name drops. I thought it was hilarious when she pretended to be hurt that she was no longer trusted with information and claimed she hadn't spilled the beans on too many stars, just "that showboat Billy Corgan." Their mutual respect for each other and hilarious digs against each other and occasional flashes of anger and revenge are entertaining.
@user-pl5pw5iy5s
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, an at-arge murderer is so entertaining
@crypttonite
Жыл бұрын
@@user-pl5pw5iy5s u falling for it all, the murder package is Slick & brought to by the same people selling you the official report of a ridiculous suicide method. Meanwhile truth is behind door 3. Until I see a photo of Kurt’s dead face, I might then believe it. Love to see anyone verify his death. Good luck, just keep yourselves attached to the idiot box in all it’s forms. Not to mention the music is not that good, much less great. Did u forget the Stooges. No embarrassing Hollywood drama surrounding those fools, just awesome records made by mostly real individuals. Nirvana’s popularity is on par with mcdonald’s being popular. Does not say much.
@scooterruns9355
Жыл бұрын
@@crypttonite so Kurt isn't really dead? LOL seriously?
@crypttonite
Жыл бұрын
@@scooterruns9355 feel free to verify he is, without pointing at a tv report or print. Real evidence. From a trustworthy source.
@scooterruns9355
Жыл бұрын
@@crypttonite so all the tv reports are involved in a giant conspiracy to fake Kurt's death? LOL seriously? do you have any evidence for this crazy nonsense or just your vivid imagination?
@tomorrowmorning8360
3 жыл бұрын
I think back in the mid-90s Tori Amos wrote a song about this dynamic on her Boys For Pele album. I believe it is called “Professional Widow”. As you can probably guess by the title, it is not a flattering view of Ms. Love. The phrase “Star Fu**er” makes its way into the chorus. Quite out of character for Tori to be that obvious with her lyrics, so my guess is she felt pretty strongly.
@HumanimalChannel
3 жыл бұрын
That song suddenly makes sense to me know thanks.
@suzannemaria5594
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it was also due to her having a relationship with Trent Reznor and Courtney had slept with him.
@danielclark920
3 жыл бұрын
That song is weird as hell lol
@RogueBoyScout
3 жыл бұрын
I think Courtney thinks she was Nancy Spungen re-incarnated. She was looking for hey Sid. She found him. The only thin is, and proves that she is not a the kinder-whore she portayed, is she didn't OD or kill herself in a "Romeo/Juliet" rock cliche., after Si-I mean Kurt's death. Kurt was a was hard core cynical. Courtney was plastic cynical. It's no surprise Heroin was the Drug De-Jour of that scene. Misery loves company, but morphine is just as nice. I guarantee Kurt never used Coke habitually. It's not a drug for those not comfortable with a less than average size ego. Hence why Narcissists love the stuff. (I use the word ego in the more post-psychological sense) Did she have anything to do with his death? maybe not on a "Logistical" level. But she certainly helped the co-dependency. Sad thing is, now she is what she always wanted to be. Nancy - Si-Kurt's girlfriend, and who also played in a band.
@blazingstar9638
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t starfkrs inc. nin written about her too
@retroguitarmaster
8 жыл бұрын
billy boy, you dodged a shotgun bullet point blank, impressive
@mondelez4422
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah because it doesn't matter if cobain is alive or dead all we want are more albums
@MultiUnreal
7 жыл бұрын
But Corgan would be dead, and there'd be no mo Smashing Pumpkins album.
@christiangasior4244
7 жыл бұрын
Kurt was a millionaire. I've felt trapped and suicidal because of a girl even crazier than Courtney, but I wasnt rich enough to move anywhere on earth. The dude signed with a major label and recorded Nevermind with tons of poppy songs on it. He wanted to become adored and famous and succeeded, only later to whine about his success. He surrounded himself with fellow junkies, had a kid, shot up and blew his brains out because as he said as a kid, he was going to become a big rock star and then kill himself. And Billy makes me want to puke although I love old pumpkins
@MultiUnreal
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nobody gives a fuck about what you think, because you're wrong.
@9unslin9er
7 жыл бұрын
No way man, if we've learned anything from Billy "I'm the last surviving 90's rocker" Corgan, he's all about self preservation. Probably would have reached "enlightenment" by saving Kurt.
@loveanimals969
2 жыл бұрын
Poor Kurt Cobain.
@jeromykriege
4 жыл бұрын
Billy you dodged a bullet there my friend.
@danellae.perezschmieloz5958
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts
@0gloomy0
Жыл бұрын
Literally
@Kat.Evangeline
Жыл бұрын
Literally
@tommyconancoates7097
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he was genuinely pissed that he lost her though
@Laura-kg9le
6 жыл бұрын
Tommy conan Coates billys a typical dude that wanted his cake and to eat it too. He was obsessed with her ever since he saw her face on the cover of 'pretty on the inside', but it appears he treated her like garbage
@is15land
6 жыл бұрын
maybe hes the socioparth not courtney
@MegKampen
5 жыл бұрын
@@Laura-kg9le he could control her and Kurt couldn't. That is why she went for Kurt. She new Billy would would never marry her even if she got pregnant. Oh I am sure h used condom on her.He didn't want to get aids
@lauraarmstrong6857
5 жыл бұрын
Men like the company of smart, well-read, engaging women.
@putinissonofiblis8130
5 жыл бұрын
Because Frances is his biological child not Kurt's
@patrickcostello4146
7 жыл бұрын
Her own father called her a sociopath.
@ktothec24
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah will that guy is a huge POS. I’m no Courtney advocate but there’s a reason why courtney considers her stepdad anything close to a father
@Ethan-rl5bo
4 жыл бұрын
I almost feel bad for her.
@StarryStarryNocturne
4 жыл бұрын
You mean the man that would threaten her with barking dogs to discipline her when she was a little kid? The guy that even boasted about his tough discipline towards his own daughter on camera, by saying, "if you f*** with me, I'll keep kicking your ass!" That guy is who you're citing as your "trusted" source on all things Courtney?
@unanimousanonymity1836
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ethan-rl5bo nah .....
@traineresports726
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you all!!! Mother Fuckers!!!
@justinhopper5941
5 жыл бұрын
Billy used to be a little boy
@ryansager9224
4 жыл бұрын
So young in his shorz
@jhonnycagexrage7458
4 жыл бұрын
The killer in him is the killer in us
@alicenestpasmonprenom5784
4 жыл бұрын
My Love😍
@davebertaud
3 жыл бұрын
He sends a smile over to us. :)
@salopro86
3 жыл бұрын
[Hey,] what's a boy supposed to do?
@justinhopper5941
3 жыл бұрын
Courtney had one goal. To latch on to a talented musician and ride that horse to money and fame.
@BushyHairedStranger
3 жыл бұрын
Courtney had been doing this since she was 15.
@andymorphic67
3 жыл бұрын
you ever see hole in their prime? better than nirvana.
@justinhopper5941
3 жыл бұрын
@@andymorphic67 Good one, I wouldn’t open with it...but it’s funny lol
@PO-si4ty
3 жыл бұрын
And kill them
@deckofcards87
3 жыл бұрын
@@andymorphic67 I mean that's not much of a triumph, but both were crappy overrated bands to begin with
@chrisconnor5418
7 жыл бұрын
"courtney love" and "sexy" are unrelated terms
@sl46495
7 жыл бұрын
The Internet Killed Music was...
@wilsonblauheuer6544
7 жыл бұрын
Courtney love is a weird looking woman whose behavior seems to be intolerable. Corgan is not much better to look at.
@Macnavor
7 жыл бұрын
Courtney Love and Sexy are not synonyms!!!!
@Macnavor
7 жыл бұрын
It's like saying pepper is sweet!!!!
@StarryStarryNocturne
5 жыл бұрын
@Chris Connor Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I have to say that Courtney did not ALWAYS look as you describe, there have been many instances when she's looked pretty. Plus, on the subject of "mess" being attractive, I know it may be an alien concept to a guy with your hipster clean-cut looks, but in the late 70s, into the early 90s, there was a thing called Punk Rock, where looking trashy was actually viewed as sexy. You don't and I don't, but like I said before, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and Billy Corgan was a teenager during that era and viewed himself as being part of that sub-genre world of Rock.
@spacefrogmogg
3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Courtney saying that she was going out with Billy and he wouldn’t pay her ticket to get back and that’s when she met Kurt on the ride back home. She said that when Billy did that to her, “that’s when Billy lost me, not fully but that’s the moment” Billy is saying he had a girlfriend at the time? Why was Courtney making out like they were going out when he already had a girlfriend?
@void0094
3 жыл бұрын
Yo wtf I like your videos nice to see you here XD
@spacefrogmogg
3 жыл бұрын
@@void0094 wtf no way! Fancy seeing you here hahaha that’s crazy!
@shayburton4104
3 жыл бұрын
Billy was cheating on her with his girlfriend back then he said so in a Howard stern interview
@BOBSAGET-sn8ex
6 жыл бұрын
I think he was jelly of courtny for marrying kurt
@katz3339
2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t love her, it’s just ego. all men are like that when they see their ex happy. SMH 🤦♀️
@mag5020
3 жыл бұрын
I wish she stayed with Billy, Kurt would prob still be alive. Not saying she murdered Kurt but he needed a better influence in his life.
@devtherevLS
12 жыл бұрын
Two of the greatest figures to ever grace music. Both of these men are geniuses in their own right. RIP Tony
@tparker2095
6 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that Billy and Courtney had an affair while Courtney was with Kurt, but who the fuck knows.
@nicholasperusek3639
4 жыл бұрын
He dodged a bullet.........literally.
@danellae.perezschmieloz5958
2 жыл бұрын
Totally
@lilc5353
2 жыл бұрын
FO SHO!
@brianh4625
2 жыл бұрын
with butterfly wings?
@federicomachado811
6 жыл бұрын
This comment section is a toxic wasteland.
@thecurseofghostisland3068
5 жыл бұрын
Only some of them. Yours is definitely one of them.
@AgiosOLucifer
4 жыл бұрын
Its filled with retarded conspiracy theorists as well lol
@JaycRam
4 жыл бұрын
@@AgiosOLucifer Kurt's name's brought up in any context. Conspiracy theorists: hE WaS MuRdErEd! cOuRtNeY DiD iT! Even Krist--a guy who was there from the beginning, not fans who only know Kurt through his music--believes he killed himself. People are nuts.
@Courier_333
4 жыл бұрын
Aye but nice profile picture tho the pixies rock
@salopro86
3 жыл бұрын
@@tatiz1406 ...wow. Got a lot of free time, huh? Jk. Idk, Nirvana had a big influence on me when I was younger(still do), but I think if you read the lyrics to the songs, the writing was kind of on the wall. Shit, even the title of one of the songs is "I Hate Myself and Want to Die". It's unfortunate, but the dude was obviously self-destructive and imploded under the pressure of mental illness, drug addiction(which are pretty much interchangeable), the glaring spotlight with creeps wanting to know and print all of your personal drama; now imagine yourself a sensitive artist seeing no way out - what would you do?
@jjohnsengraciesmom
3 жыл бұрын
Lol Kurt didn't ruin the romance Billy did. Lol.
@bradjustin2573
6 жыл бұрын
She also said they broke up at a nirvana concert that never happened in Oct of 91 few months before Frances was born
@monnie508
3 жыл бұрын
I love smashing pumpkins but kinda hate billy lmao
@todd2846
3 жыл бұрын
Same unfortunately
@todd2846
3 жыл бұрын
@Cortland Taylor he just says/does the wrong things
@shunyataberlin
3 жыл бұрын
Billy Corgan IS the Smashing Pumpkins, tho
@overkill7990
3 жыл бұрын
@@todd2846 He tells the truth which is not cool. Not who we are.
@todd2846
3 жыл бұрын
@@overkill7990 don’t understand but ok
@thebomb78
4 жыл бұрын
As a 41 year old Irish man who lived in London through Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Oasis, Joy Division etc..... Metallica, Alice in Chains and Machinehead are my favourites
@Stewartchampion
2 жыл бұрын
Im 40 and joy division was back in the 70s ..I'd say you was born in 1980 .and was like 12 years of age when most of those band's broke through like I was.. joy division much early been and gone by then
@kasimojohn2017
7 ай бұрын
pear jam shits on all of them lmao
@army_dreamer_8088
2 ай бұрын
no one cares if you're Irish
@brandtsavoy6123
3 жыл бұрын
I think its funny that Billy is a HUGE wrestling fan. Like historian and huge fan and even bought the NWA an old school rasslin promotion
@Garf2O
2 жыл бұрын
Makes me think ole billy came up with a wrestling type persona to go with his music career early on, and one day he just said "fuck it" and decided to become that persona full time
@80gumdrops
6 жыл бұрын
None of this story stacks up. 1) If you look at Nirvana / SP's 1991 tour dates, they're never in the same state at the same time apart from Boston MA on Sept 23rd where they both played the Axis. 2) Billy says she flew off to Minneapolis - where Nirvana played on 14th October 1991. True, Courtney was in Minneapolis and got with Kurt, but Smashing Pumpkins were touring Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama and Georgia at that time. The day he's talking about, Nirvana were in Chicago, and SP's were in Alabama.
@peterheinzelmann3335
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I like that kind of research! I can understand Billy a bit thought, he just wanted to fuck her, thought it would be funny or something. I bet his conscience is guilty af. He knows that Kurt died (which way ever) because he fucked with Courtney.
@ByVan_
6 жыл бұрын
Had you read this ? Is Courtney story about that same story but ..... different www.burntout.com/kurt/interviews/int8.html
@peterheinzelmann3335
6 жыл бұрын
interesting read!
@MiszzMiszz
6 жыл бұрын
sure you know better than him...
@brandymassey3853
6 жыл бұрын
80gumdrops he is from Chicago and he said his apartment not hotel so... maybe he wasn’t doing a show and was just back in his home town that night with his girlfriend
@jh-kv6pq
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of rocks most tragic deep layered love stories
@jowlorenz9555
2 жыл бұрын
At least mrs hole didn't blow off the great pumpkin's head .
@lolz_lmao_2144
2 жыл бұрын
FR
@jh-kv6pq
2 жыл бұрын
@@lolz_lmao_2144 nobody hears when they listen, nobody see's when they look. it's deeper than an ocean
@jh-kv6pq
2 жыл бұрын
@@lolz_lmao_2144 In another life they live happy ever after with their daughter
@sampedro9316
Жыл бұрын
Gross.
@JBest0
12 жыл бұрын
Tony wlson! crazy man ... He was part of the music history! RIP....Corgan is my favourite rockstar of ever. Great interview but...where's the rest?????
@ValisX
7 жыл бұрын
Billy loves to hook up with train wrecks.... Courtney, Tila Tequila, Alex Jones.....geez. Kurt genuinely loved Courtney, I didn't understand it until 'Montage of Heck', Kurt was such a wreck himself a lonely misfit and he met a girl that was, outwardly, amazing and he fell head over heels. I don't believe Courtney literally killed Kurt but she no doubt figuratively did. I'm sure something secret happened that devastated Kurt and he just said fuck it. He probably had some junkie he was using with help him kill himself. I'm sure someone will make a deathbed confessional one day
@frankelder1158
7 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most accurate comment on this page. Kurt suspected Courtney of cheating on him. He may have been right. People who were close to them thought she was cheating on him with Billy but neither of them have confirmed (and why would they). I don't think just that contributed to Kurt's suicide or state of mind but it did play a big part.
@carsonhall1366
6 жыл бұрын
Suspected? He used to come home from traveling and it would hurt him that she would be screwing other people right in front of him. Geez. I don't think he was that dumb. Also, as someone who worked in forensics I can tell you he was not alone in that room when he died, and all forensics point to murder. Police departments are not always honest, especially when money is involved.
@alexborgia4712
6 жыл бұрын
Carson Hall - I agree. Kurt was rumoured to be disillusioned with his career and ready walk away and divorce Courtney. A dead rock legend is like a never ending cash machine. Who benefits? There are rumours David Geffen had his biographer Tom King killed (he was very unhappy with the book). Tom King died mysteriously at 39, no cause of death given. Rumour has it that the investigating officers later left the force and took up 5 year $500 000 p.a. contracts.
@JustLikeHeaven77
6 жыл бұрын
I hope you are a writer, cuz that was brilliant.
@thecurseofghostisland3068
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... he totally overdosed to kill himself and then blew his brains out just to make sure. Great logic dumbass.
@ryanhale1654
6 жыл бұрын
Billy's the man! SP's are def. up there w/ th Soundgarden's, Nirvana's, etc. etc.
@ryanhale1654
3 жыл бұрын
@@slimyfisher1370 Everclear?? Green Day?! Idk ab all that. I mean Green Day had one great record. I feel ya on STP though but all the rest I don't get the association.
@nathenism
6 жыл бұрын
courtney seems like one of those people who is always desperate and their desperation inevitably leads to some real shady betrayals
@SunniShiaUnity
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Courtney was playing the odds and just wanted to marry any rockstar. If only she had hooked up with Billy, Kurt would still be alive today
@dAvrilthebear
7 жыл бұрын
yeah, luckily billy married a normal girl afterwards, who dumped him after 2 years, but we owe Seamese Dream and MCIS to her! :) (that is, assuming she actually exists, there are no photos of billy and his first wife together))
@tweezersalad4075
3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, the thumbnail looked like a still from To Catch A Predator
@davide.b8027
Жыл бұрын
I wonder why some geniuses can work their way through the industry While others crumble at its feet
@spaceorbison
7 жыл бұрын
Wow Courtney didn't give one shit about ANYONE
@mooknick242
5 жыл бұрын
courtney love looking sexy is where this video lost me
@deafphantom865
4 жыл бұрын
She was hot dude :p at the 90s perspective
@themagicalfox6
3 жыл бұрын
She didn't look bad in her day
@amymuchko7106
Жыл бұрын
😅🤣
@HunterL850
4 жыл бұрын
Kurt: I hate Mtv and the Music Business Billy: I LOVE THE BUSINESS
@rowtenlowt3371
6 жыл бұрын
billy thinks it was 1100 tony says 750,shes making 350
@kirabarsmith9353
7 жыл бұрын
Tony Wilson is a bigger music legend than Curt, Courtney, and Billy combined. Factory Records forever!
@odw_99
7 жыл бұрын
Kira Barsmith haha yeah course
@odw_99
7 жыл бұрын
Kira Barsmith and its Kurt
@xxoxia
6 жыл бұрын
Who's Curt? You mean Curt from the Meat Puppets?
@stratchic
6 жыл бұрын
She wanted to f with Billy. He threw her out, so she went down the block and slept with Kurt, then tried again get with Billy and then shortly after married Kurt? Classy.
@auroraborealis6398
5 жыл бұрын
what did you expect ? lol
@patriciapedercini7935
5 жыл бұрын
stratchic nothing but class
@theblakex
5 жыл бұрын
Even better she went back to Billy just 3 weeks after Kurt died
@malloryknox6802
3 жыл бұрын
@@theblakex billy must have a good d
@Exodus-sb8so
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you admit to fucking Courtney love?? That's like saying ive eaten a cheeseburger from McDonald's ... Who hasnt
@krisfrederick5001
3 жыл бұрын
I get the sense that Billy knows what actually happened to Kurt.
@allancastilini4647
3 жыл бұрын
what actually happened to Kurt = he killed himself, get over it
@ervin9720
2 жыл бұрын
@@allancastilini4647 if by "he" you mean Courtney and by "himself" you mean Kurt then you are correct
@stephensullivan1879
2 жыл бұрын
he definitely didn't kill himself I don't even like nirvana but the evidence that he couldn't have done it is overwhelming.
@Munnwort
2 жыл бұрын
On the Joe Rohan podcast said he knows about a lot of stuff about events that happened while knowing what’s true & what’s false, so maybe
@chops4986
2 жыл бұрын
@@Munnwort yep
@vertigo2930
12 жыл бұрын
Rock star A to Rock Star B....hahaha..
@nyxnjmnz1261
4 жыл бұрын
courtney love is a double timing bitch hahaha
@dexterWES
3 жыл бұрын
BAM -_- -_- -_- -_- :P
@vertigo2930
3 жыл бұрын
8 year old comment still there..damn !
@dexterWES
3 жыл бұрын
ferooze ali and that bitch is still around
@vertigo2930
3 жыл бұрын
@@dexterWES amen to that !
@jamesgutierrez4695
7 жыл бұрын
Again poor Kurt for marrying Courtney
@sjin8896
6 жыл бұрын
this was filmed in the same room at the same time? watch it closely...
@pts5217
4 жыл бұрын
Right. The lighting is off
@83n80y
2 жыл бұрын
LOL! Yeah, I also immediately noticed the sound was completely different. Billy's mic is 100x better quality. The lighting is brighter as well.
@crash8563
3 жыл бұрын
Corgan's ego was large back then, too
@radiomindchatter7994
2 жыл бұрын
He changed his tune years later about the business..check out the Joe Rogan podcast...
@Charlito732
7 жыл бұрын
Tom Grant did his job well. Nowdays, the majority of the people thinks that Courtney Love is a murderer and almost like an expert criminalistic plot woman.
@anti-ethniccleansing465
4 жыл бұрын
Tomás Orellana Who sells their dead husband’s journals to the world??
@pts5217
4 жыл бұрын
He did. Sad that so many ppl believe him. His documentary starts of with him saying he never lies...usually a red flag
@Charlito732
4 жыл бұрын
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 yep, complete lunatic, fucked up by money and drugs. although i admire her early music work, i think she had a lot to do with Kurt's addiction and downfall. but, i do not believe tom grant anyway and the conspiracy docs.
@anti-ethniccleansing465
4 жыл бұрын
@Tomás Orellana From what I understand, Kurt had _A LOT_ to do with the writing of Hole’s earlier work when he was alive. I differ with you on the cause of Kurt’s death though. I think it is likely that Tom Grant is correct. By the way, why are you just now seeing my original reply to you six months later? Haha.
@Charlito732
4 жыл бұрын
@@anti-ethniccleansing465haha, just saw it now!!! didin't see it at the time. 👍
@chrisallen9743
6 жыл бұрын
Frankie cannot be Kurts daughter. He has a butt chin, she does not. That is a DOMINANT trait--Frankie, if she is Kurts, would 100% have a butt chin as well...She cant be his... Fuck...i just realized this. Depressing.
@malloryknox6802
3 жыл бұрын
She got fillers on her chin, as she did everywhere else on her face
@kawaiitos
Жыл бұрын
OMG you're right! I never thought about that!
@chrisallen9743
Жыл бұрын
@@kawaiitos I know this because i have a butt chin, and have a daughter that looks exactly like me--even down to the butt chin. i remember her mother being happy that she would have one, because she thinks its a good defining feature.
@erikmolnar6585
6 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peaces Tony Wilson. Definitely missed
@goa699
3 жыл бұрын
Lol If she ended up with billy he would probably be the one dead instead of kurt.
@mylove-gm3wk
9 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons Kurt could not stay "SATISFIED OR HAPPY"...is because he started to see Courtney's true colors. She's always had an alterior motive that always benefited herself. She couldn't keep her legs closed, she basically slept her way to the top. She is a narcissist, I can see why her own daughter can't stand her. Courtney is fucking embarrassing, and is a COMPULSIVE LIAR!!!
@zackfulton3889
9 жыл бұрын
mylove Tell me more about how you know everything about someone you don't even know lol
@masennakonieczny2377
8 жыл бұрын
+mylove even her own father says those things about her
@AB-bt9eb
7 жыл бұрын
Some Nirvana fans really treat Kurt as this perennial victim, which he was not. He had the power/will to live his life how he chose. Respect that and stop infantalyzing and justifying him and his legacy.
@delhidelirium9091
7 жыл бұрын
She´s too good in bed even for`porn star` standards, allegedly, plus she´s older than all these cats - I can absolutely understand how she played these rock star kids/promoters whatever , the way she did, truly can.
@delhidelirium9091
7 жыл бұрын
lol, that was intimidating (even though I do not necessarily disagree lol).
@Marius-vw9hp
6 жыл бұрын
Kurt fell trap to the one thing he hates. Courtney was the opposite of everything Kurt stood for.
@thesecondYouTube
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously she wasn't otherwise he wouldn't have married her.
@maulcs
5 жыл бұрын
@@thesecondKZitem She definitely was. She wanted all the glamour, fame, expensive cars, and he didn't. He once described their relationship like "Evian water and battery acid" - it was an opposite attracts situation that ultimately turned out to be volatile.
@alukuhito
4 жыл бұрын
@@thesecondKZitem No. Opposites attract.
@julesvan
Жыл бұрын
Billy told Howard Stern that he became obsessed with Courtney after he saw her in a photograph and didn't stop until he met her kzitem.info/news/bejne/qYmOy5aQs2aGe3o
@chrisridenhour
3 жыл бұрын
Tony Wilson - wow what a legend
@micaela7159
4 жыл бұрын
whats the interview hes talking about at 3:08 ?
@PrivateSchemers1
6 жыл бұрын
Billy knew how to handle a slag. Throw em out! If only Kurt had the same instinct.
@RoyBasanta
4 жыл бұрын
I always believed that Bullet With Butterfly Wings was a reference to Courtney and also some kind of relief or confession, his bad feelings for knowing what really happened to Kurt and rage because he knew the truth but had to keep his mouth shut. If you listen to the lyrics carefully it is like he felt guilty but he had to fake it “for just one more show”. “Secret destroyers, betrayed desires, a piece of the game...” I see references to some Nirvana songs too. “The world is a vampire sent to drain (you)” “Tell me I’m (not) the only one”... Read the lyrics thinking in all this shit and the bizarre love triangle he was trapped in, and it makes sense...
@Santiagopauli
2 жыл бұрын
The killer in my is the killer in you my love.
@clevername8832
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine that. It could have been that Nirvana still had Kurt and that either Billy and Courtney stayed together or she got him killed instead.
@pavelakhmadeev9261
3 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence Kurt was there down the block? Exactly at a time he kicked her out
@jasenator1323
3 жыл бұрын
Its the way the universe plays
@mikeywhite7031
2 жыл бұрын
I think they were on tour together in '92
@koolklif
7 жыл бұрын
ya what about the sighting of her and a unamed smahing pumpkins member hooking just before kurts death
@Jazzyteach65
6 жыл бұрын
Is it true that Courtney slept with Corgan two days after Cobain died?
@jennblue2464
6 жыл бұрын
Yea, apparently she was (kind of bragging) to the private investigator she hired that she was with Billy a few days after Kurt died.
@auroraborealis6398
5 жыл бұрын
2 weeks after she was with evan dando from the lemonheads. I bet he was not the only one haha..
@user-hw6kq1fn2l
4 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid she slept with him even when Kurt was alive and was her husband.
@user-hw6kq1fn2l
4 жыл бұрын
@Diana Moore Courtney considered Billy a great lover you can find a video where she mentioned that.
@user-hw6kq1fn2l
4 жыл бұрын
@Diana Moore Sorry, my English is not very good. A lot of Nirvana fans don't trust Courtney. That's it.
@garrettpapit
3 жыл бұрын
Billy can't be dumb enough to think she loved him...lol. I'm sure it was $750. She told Corgan $1100 so she could pay the guy back and keep the change to buy heroin. How can Corgan have spent so long in the music bjz and still be this naive? :-|
@caranelson7457
Жыл бұрын
Keep the change to buy heroin. 😂😂😂 All you people speculate so much.
@salopro86
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I was a huge Pumpkins fan as a kid back in the Siamese Dream to Machins era. Stood 8 hours in line at the Waterloo records in Austin to get my Aeroplane Flies High box-set signed during the Resume the Pose tour(it was MADM, instead of Darcy, oh well), also waited 6 hours in line at Austin City Music Hall to be close to the front at the Sacred and Profane tour back in 2000, so I think I have enough fan-cred to state that Billy Corgan really seems like a douchebag. Lol
@bojangles6444
2 жыл бұрын
A nerdy douche bag. On one level he is like a a child or teenager with arrested development. Something about him is not all there. Like when he says he saw a shapeshifter… on Rogan I think much more recent. I dunno what a famous person would want to be in Chicago for. Go get a house not a city full of apartments. It’s a lot better than being packed with people above and below like a sardine i reckon. I have met Dennis Rodman “his friend”, dude isn’t right in the head either. Dude acts friendly but he just wants attention all the freaking time. Shook my hand when I was a kid didn’t say anything. I don’t think he is too smart goes to N Korea lol 😂
@COLTRONNN
2 жыл бұрын
you waited in line so you know that billy is an asshole? nice dude.
@wvu05
8 ай бұрын
Nobody said he wasn't talented and a brilliant artist. Nobody also said that he wasn't a jerk.
@Norman-Bates-60
3 жыл бұрын
The biggest question i want to know is. Where the heck did Billys hair go?
@matthewkaptena9512
2 жыл бұрын
He zeroed it.
@Norman-Bates-60
2 жыл бұрын
😌
@FindingNorcal
3 жыл бұрын
Forever in love with Billy ♓
@LSUOdyssey
Жыл бұрын
Billy knows exactly what happened to Kurt.
@rubbersoul420
Жыл бұрын
I know have respect for Billy Corgan's patience.
@Nathan-gd7xq
4 жыл бұрын
Every time I see Tony Wilson in something I'm reminded that they made no effort to make Steve Coogan look like him in 24 Hour Party People.
@kaanayp
4 жыл бұрын
Lol true for the rest of the movie. JD members in that movie look like they are from a distant alternative universe
@ajg5138
3 жыл бұрын
Corgan is highly unlikeable for no almost no apparent reason.
@station2604
5 жыл бұрын
courtney didnt care about kurt dying$
@redriver6541
9 күн бұрын
Fleetwood and Clapton..... The best of them all.
@jjohnson8977
3 жыл бұрын
This is a strory about kids being kids. thats all it is
@afterafterbirth
6 жыл бұрын
Courtney is disgusting. Kurt could have had anybody he wanted. He never realized his potential
@makaylarose2959
6 жыл бұрын
John Wood Same with Billy.
@dayana369
4 жыл бұрын
podrias subtitularlo al español , plis
@frogerfury
6 жыл бұрын
contrast corgans last statement with his interview on joe rogans podcast
@michaelleskauskas3645
3 жыл бұрын
Holy hell his hands are huge.
@malloryknox6802
3 жыл бұрын
Probably not just his hands
@odw_99
3 жыл бұрын
Billy looks like Handsome Squidward in this
@Garf2O
2 жыл бұрын
Its that brown shirt
@apope06
3 жыл бұрын
Hea bragging about cheating only because it's with a rock star. Hes always been egocentric
@D.MINORRR
12 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW.
@giovannileonetti2120
3 жыл бұрын
Billy made me fall in love with 1979
@ZachAttackO0
7 жыл бұрын
I dont understand is Smashing Pumpkins and Nirvana friends or do they not like each other??
@Mytube777
7 жыл бұрын
ZachTheGamer 812 They were pretty much friendly to each other. Courtney used to fuck Billy, even though he usually had a girlfriend that never new about her. The guys were always friendly to each other.
@Ajlakritz
7 жыл бұрын
Mytube777 no Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins were not friends. Nirvana and all the other cool bands (Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Mudhoney, etc) always thought the Pumpkins sucked and were a joke. Kim Gordon always talks about how they thought Billy was gross and lame. The Pumpkins suck!
@Mytube777
7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lakritz Yep Smashing Pumpkins does suck. Although I sat in a room with all them and they acted friendly to each other. I also met Kim too. I was Jenner Finch's roommate for a while, I saw all sorts of shit.
@belleofkilronan8565
7 жыл бұрын
Do tell
@ZachAttackO0
7 жыл бұрын
Mytube777 Ah thanks for telling me
@xtracex77
2 жыл бұрын
just gonna say...Courtney and Billy were probably legit soulmates, and if they'd just hooked up for real in 1991, it could've saved a lot of people a lot of pain. I'm not a "Courtney killed him" truther or anything, but he was just not equipped to deal with someone with as dominant a personality as Courtney had. She needed someone who'd fight with her, walk away, but still care about her in the end. And decades later, kind of obvious, that was Billy.
@Crosshatch1212
2 жыл бұрын
Yeeaggh but new info has just come out about the detective who was killed ,who was trying to find the person who sold kurt the h ,but kurt didn’t buy it so I can see the interveiw with the guy who murdered him spilling the beans and he has stuck to that same story for 30 yr ,it gets aired tomorrow .on true psych ward ,peace ,
@ditavee
2 жыл бұрын
No way are they soulmates. Billy has had to help care for his brother and came from an abusive background, both hooks for a sociopath like Courtney to grab onto - I guarantee that had he been with her we would have had a dead Billy instead of a dead Kurt. Both relationships seemed incredibly toxic.
@catmejia6109
9 ай бұрын
@@ditaveeMelissa who’s been in both their bands says they are soulmates, you’re hate for her and trying to make him some angel is hilarious….hes actually a male version of Courtney …..and he’d been unable to shake her for decades …he always ran back to her …..he did
@NiueanHoney
4 жыл бұрын
But weren’t you playing in Memphis that night Billy??
@dailyflash
Жыл бұрын
My band played with Hole a handful of times, pre-Kurt. I didn’t know Courtney personally, but I swear, I never noticed anything remarkable about her. She wasn’t a personality yet. Hole was one of many, many L.A. bands and they didn’t stick out. I don’t remember seeing any amazing performances by them. A lot of guys at the time liked the novelty of women onstage and Hole also had a female drummer. They had ok draw and I always thought that was why. In fairness though, maybe there was talent that I just wasn’t able to see.
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