I jokingly asks, are you messing with us as far as mentioning polyrhythmic and Tool in the same sentence? Boy does Karl have a video for you to watch of their drummer, Danny Carey. Peace/JT
@katsboy22
Жыл бұрын
Hello Amy and Vlad I hope you two are well. It appears to me that your doing the history of rock in reverse, when I hear the more recent reactions and analysis I hear there influences inspirations from bands 30 40+ years ago. Question has the history of rock project been put on hold if so I hope you find better collaborators as they seemed to just be winging it with no structure.
@medusa2820
Жыл бұрын
@@johnthompson6374 I do not think that she is making such a video for hardcore Tool nerds, but for a music loving general public. There is a world outside of your own bubble.
@lawrenceelgrin2205
Жыл бұрын
I forget all the time elements, but the minutes and seconds are also structurally based on number theory too. This song is a rabbit-hole. The chorus will start at a certain time that is based on numbers as an example. The singer Maynard felt that it this song was a little self-indulgent and later criticized the song.
@alansmith1989
Жыл бұрын
@@katsboy22 Must agree, it seems that way to me also.
@surfrusty12
7 ай бұрын
Finally somebody breaks down the 5-16 polyrhythm in the middle of this song. So many musicians review this song and all of them gloss right over it. In particular Danny’s 5 pattern with the bass drum quadruplets and open hi-hat accents on 1 and 3 is just filthy good and one of the most creative things I’ve ever heard in rock music. I’d love to hear you do a breakdown of Rosetta Stoned and analyze the polyrhythms in that song, and there are many.
@Dahench
8 ай бұрын
It's really fun to watch this analysis as Lateralus is playing in the background .
@jonathantaylor3074
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your explanation of poly rhythms. Tool didnt write this piece specifically with the fibonacci sequence in mind. It wasnt until the singer put the vocals to the track that that it was deliberately done. The music had been finished, and just happened come out with 9/8 8/8 7/8. Maynard has gone on record that his addition of the vocal syllables was him "poking fun" at the coincidence.
@flyingintheface6139
Жыл бұрын
I'd already guessed that it was from the Drummer and Bass player working together and just having that happen naturally by feel, then Maynard noticing that from ' Over Thinking/ Over Analyzing '..hence the lyrics he came up with. That is one of the things that was most appealing to me about Tool. I like the way Amy appears to have noticed that as well.
@CarlYota
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. It’s easy to erroneously run with the idea when someone tells you it was designed around the sequence. You start making all kinds of incorrect analyses. Luckily Maynard told us what happened so it’s no secret. They weren’t picking and choosing elements to represent this or that. The lyrics were the only thing deliberately made to fit. everything else coincidence. As you said.
@artursandwich1974
Жыл бұрын
In rock music King Crimson's leader was obsessed with math-founding of each composition. I can hear the inspiration in Tool's work.
@Waithuhh
Жыл бұрын
KC is a huge influence on Tool and in particular Danny Carry
@izeshmikurac
Жыл бұрын
Yes. 7empest is heavily influenced by Frame by frame and Vicarious by Discipline, like directly. But in gemeral, yes, very much so influenced by them. In one documentary type video they pull up the album Discipline and say how influential it was to the sound and structure of their music
@dabodyshotking
Жыл бұрын
That's one of the things that attracted me (aside that I've been playing drums and percussion for some decades since starting piano at five) is how much it reminds me of Fripp. It's also been nice to see Fripp lighten up over the dacades.
@xmlviking
Жыл бұрын
I have seen King Crimson like 3 times. So ....have 3 drumb sets on stage is normal?
@kathyjuneart
Жыл бұрын
I think the band would appreciate your review. They are open minded and have fun with their criticism and don't take themselves too seriously. I enjoy their music and I appreciate your take on all music. Refreshing! Thanks for posting, I've been waiting for this one!
@MickH60
Жыл бұрын
"Little stride, long stride" reminds me of watching car indicators at night while sitting at traffic lights, seeing them flash at different rates and matching up eventually , before going off on another cycle...
@aaronpalmer7358
Жыл бұрын
Please consider reviewing Pneuma by Tool. It has some unusual time signatures and syncopation that you might find particularly interesting.
@agarcn6704
Жыл бұрын
She needs to watch the live drum cam version to just see Danny perform
@EiriUesugiKun
Жыл бұрын
@@agarcn6704 Oh yes!
@jodytfishing
Жыл бұрын
@@agarcn6704 absolutely!
@MrBigspendn
Жыл бұрын
I've listened to Tool for 25 years and wasn't sure about Fear Inaculim. But love it now.
@DR.DisInfect
11 ай бұрын
I love tool but no nothing about music other then it being pleasing. My favorite tool song is Rosetta Stoned it seems very complicated and was my least favorite at one time but it grew on me it is so bad ass I'm really hoping to hear it live in nashville in January they have been playing it more lately on tour
@ugg10video76
Жыл бұрын
Saw Tool at a festival with 100,000 people, all nodding their head but no two people had the same rhythm! Everyone has their own personal experience. I think you ought to dig into the back catalogue of Opeth, rhythmically interesting and some of their chord structures and sequences are very special.
@ConservativeGangstR
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved watching her classically trained mind shifting and moving to the rythem of Tool.
@wonderputz
Жыл бұрын
Amy's explanation of time signature reminds me of an explanation of jazz I once heard: Four guys playing different songs at the same time.
@jacksmith4460
Жыл бұрын
if you are looking for Tool demonstrating more interesting ideas with melody , whilst still using cray rhythms, "Jambi" is a great demonstration of that and more melodically developed. If you are looking for more emotive connection in Tool tracks, the songs from the album "AEnima" are the best examples. "46&2" or "Jimmy" or "Push it" are more emotive some of their later tracks from a later album, " Wings for Marie/10'000 days is very emotive" Most of Tools music is not inspired directly by maths, but many have a lot of those elements in and they use poly rhythm a lot
@jacksmith4460
Жыл бұрын
I adored this breakdown of the Tool track, I have been into the band since 97/98 and as an 18 year old they blew my mind, quite a contrast to the Nirvana diet I was consuming. I agree regarding the melodic aspects, and its the one weakness of the track. Other tracks they do demonstrate their use of melody a lot better. Its also music that the more you listen the more your ears tune to their whole vibe and it grows on you.
@HunkyTalkenMonkey01
Жыл бұрын
Tool set out, from the start, to explore rhythm as thoroughly as so many others have explored melody. when I try to imagine how a bunch of busy melody would sound over their rhythms, the results are comical and catastrophic XD
@allisonal
Жыл бұрын
😂 I learned from some other comments here that with Tool, the melody typically gets toplined after the rest of the instruments are written, so now I’m curious to hear how a song like this would sound with entirely different vocals that put more emphasis on melody. I agree, I think it would be overly busy and lose effectiveness. I love the embrace of rhythm.
@lennyghoul
Жыл бұрын
I agree. To me melody is more representative of noise or voice and shallowness of expression and rhythm is soul, and foundational. Which is a big part of much of Tools music whether intentional or not. I think adding a lot of melody over this piece would just result in chaos and it wouldn't be fun to listen too.
@oscardiggs246
Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for your analysis of this one since you started the channel.
@adruiddrummer8841
Жыл бұрын
As I'm a child of that era, I can't listen to this song without thinking of Donald Duck In Mathmagic Land - particularly the part where it explains the Fibonacci sequence, it's relation to The Golden Spiral, and their relationship to music. I was a huge Tool fan before I heard this song and I wasn't surprised when I heard they used Fibonacci here. They're amazing individuals and an incredible team.
@t3chkz0wep0p.2
Жыл бұрын
Your explanation of polyrhythms was F*****G AMAZING!!! Theory and execution wise. I have never understood it better than after you explained it.
@jonatanpinadulucmusic
Жыл бұрын
Rather than being about harmony, and counterpoint rock music tends to be about groove, timbre, impact, attitude and provoking physical reactions in the audience (kinestesia, maybe). This videos are so interesting to me because for someone who´s sensibility isn´t "calibrated" to find meaning and nuance within these popular music parameters you still find a lot of value digging for things you can relate to inside the music.
@garrettmarshall1288
Жыл бұрын
You pretty much nailed it from your opening statement on the “golden ratio” and how it already exists in music and, well, everything. Even the vocalist said he felt it was kind of juvenile to essentially point it out as they already exist in everything. There’s no need to point them out. It’s pointing out the obvious. Even so, it’s still a brilliant song.
@Mboogie69
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Maynard called it sophomoric. His sense of humor is present in so many songs
@ThePayner1
Жыл бұрын
@@Mboogie69 Sophomoric dick joke if I recall correctly
@DR.DisInfect
11 ай бұрын
Embrace the random
@benjaminflasher
Жыл бұрын
I'd also recommend "Monomyth" by Animals As Leaders. They are an all instrumental band that focus almost exclusively on rhythm and mathematics for their song writing to great effect. You might enjoy it.
@octaviopicazo4080
Жыл бұрын
You are the Carl Sagan of music. The explanation is marvelous and much interesting. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge!
@NPK476
Жыл бұрын
Great job Amy. You put in so much effort and care.
@devanwc23
Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes this was so good Lateralus is my favorite tool song by a good measure. And there is nothing I love watching more than experts in a craft discuss said craft I ate this video up like Candy. Thank you so much for your dedication and expertise!!!
@NapoleonBonapaeteusf
6 күн бұрын
You're such a gifted teacher
@Marnee4191
Жыл бұрын
So much food for thought. Thank you for listening, researching, then creating this video!
@kronklively5804
Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I think this might be the best breakdown of this song that I have heard. It also gave me more music to look in too. Thank you for the effort you put into all of your videos, they are always both interesting and educational 👍🏽👍🏽
@iisotter8944
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, absolute delight listening to someone else classically trained discuss one of my favourite artists. Lateralus, the LP as whole is thoughtful composition, it would be akin to me just giving a short part from the second movement of a concerto, and asking what you thought of the whole piece. There is also the 'Holy Gift Sequence' of this albulm where you listen to the songs in order to match the Fibonacci sequence.
@mattm9871
Жыл бұрын
Fabulous! Your analysis is insightful, well reasoned and described in detail yet intelligible to even a novice such as myself. I only recently became aware of Tool’s music and of course find it fascinating. When I was young (I am in my 60’s now) I worked with a company that developed high rise office buildings. We developed and built a 33 story building in Tampa FL that was designed by an architect named Harry Wolfe. It’s a very recognizable building on the Tampa skyline since it’s completely round. He was an award winning designer and had some interesting and unusual approaches to his work. The Tampa project was designed based on the Fibonacci sequence (FS). All of the dimensions from large to small were numbers found on the FS. For example, in most office buildings the structural floors are ~12 feet from floor to floor, but the floors in this building are 13 feet apart. This is only one example- there are many. Two cube shaped buildings stand adjacent to the round tower. They are attached to each other at the middle, and are each 78’x78’ X 78’ tall. Inside, the cubes are mostly hollow, they have 5 balcony levels. There are so many other details that there’s far too many to mention here, from the patterns of the stone used in the lobby floor and the detailed pattern that is reflected in the ceiling above it to the specific sizes of the windows in the building. It was the most fun I had in my years doing this kind of work (and being in Tampa made it all the more so- Tampa is a wonderful city!). It was a ridiculously expensive building to construct however. The necessity of keeping to the non-standard dimensions drove up the cost of materials in numerous instances and many specialty materials such as the French limestone exterior walls were called for by Harry Wolfe. The customer was a predecessor bank that later became Bank of America. Sadly, today the building has traded hands a number of time and I believe was last purchased out of a bankruptcy case. I don’t recall all the numbers anymore but if memory serves i think it cost more per square foot than it has ever been worth as an asset. I’m sure the amount of money that it’s owners have lost is a dollar figure that lies somewhere on the Fibonacci sequence😂!
@John_in_SoDak
Жыл бұрын
You are such a talented presenter. Thank you for creating this videos please please make many many more
@lateralus9244
Жыл бұрын
Here is another in-depth analysis of Lateralus that may show you of just how much this song is rooted in the Fibonacci Sequence: How TOOL Used Math To Create Lateralus - kzitem.info/news/bejne/1oV-0Zl-a4iSeGU
@shaman6891
Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel today. I have watched a number of the video's and love both segments, 1st reaction and in depth analysis. I hope you are enjoying this and keep doing it.
@psycho42069
Жыл бұрын
Right hand snaps squares, left hand snaps triangles. Now add you left foot tapping octogons and the right foot stomping hexagons and you're Danny Carey! 😎👽🐙
@enerpro2955
Жыл бұрын
Their Pneuma explores musicality and harmony in much deeper fashion
@mrsrabbit2712
Жыл бұрын
I'm truly appreciating the comments. You people know so much more about this than i do. Blowing my mind, but also with laughs, and insight into the band, their intentions, and their awareness in creating it.. Their sense of humor.
@stevewillis8710
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your analysis. It was very thoughtful and informative. Their live shows are expertly played, while accompanied by a visual art and light show that has few rivals. For composition, the three instrumentalists put the song together and the singer writes the lyrics that he feels fit the music, thus making his voice a fourth instrument, thus adding the melodic element to their music. If you have fifteen minutes to kill, watch a live version of this song. Almost always fan shot, but it gives you a sense of what a live experience is like. Cheers!
@AriesKJJ2
Жыл бұрын
Pythagoras "All is number" Music is such a pleasant expression of it. I don't know of a more intricate and hypnotic piece than this one though I am indeed, "attracted to this sort of exercise"! Peace
@gustavomontiel1939
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what your talking about, but find it very interesting and educational. Gives the music a totally different perspective and understanding. I love music but this is on a different level. You are obviously an educated person who really takes music to another level.
@albot6992
Жыл бұрын
WOW .. JUST WOW ! What a Break Down .. Thank You...
@joseramirez-rp1id
Жыл бұрын
A sincere understanding breakdown. Thank you for your info.
@AprilLaRae
Жыл бұрын
Listening to Lateralus in the order that it was placed in on the Lateralus album would give you a better feel of being drawn in AND carried along. Promise! I really enjoyed hearing about why TOOL is amazing, as always they are given their own spot in my all time there is no other that will be better (I saw them live in Nashville, it was soul cleansing), but Alice In Chains and Deftones are my favorite bands 😅 is it too audacious to think that they should be comparable to Beethoven, Mozart, Bach? I believe that they will live into history and be appreciated a few centuries down the line like their fellow musicians!
@irontoolgoddess
Жыл бұрын
Not a Question, just Stunning. Well done.
@MrVirtuezzz
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was over after the reaction, thank you for this!
@newa0nn
Жыл бұрын
if you're waiting for more melodic and harmonic complexity from Tool, you'll be waiting forever. I'm pretty sure all of their songs are written in the same key lol. Their focus has always been rhythm because they have one of the best drummers alive steering the ship. On top of that, most of the band is into mystical Kabbalah to some extent, so numbers play a key role in their creation of art. Puscifer is the name of Tool's vocalist's side project. It has a much greater focus on exploring melody and harmony, while still maintaining a rhythmic structure that goes against the grain of most popular music. Grand Canyon (Live), The Arsonist (Live), and Life of Brian (Live) from the album Billy D and the Hall of Feathered Serpents are all great places to start. Would love to see a breakdown of one of their live songs on your channel. Your content is excellent. You've earned a like and a sub.
@lupcokotevski2907
Жыл бұрын
The source and ultimate example of dark, intense spiritual music: The Inner Mounting Flame(1971) by the Mahavishnu Orchestra - highly complex music by some of the best rock fusion players of all time such as John McLaughlin and Billy Cobham. All virtuosos.
@grahamokeefe9406
11 ай бұрын
Frank Zappa did a lot with mathematical principles. He used a lot of pitch-interval ratios in his melodies and harmonies and applied a similar method to his rhythms. (This is mostly in his orchestral work, but also in some of his rock stuff as well).
@rdevries48
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your in depth analysis. Learning a lot from your channel. I have never been a Tool fan, I tried. I felt like music I hade to like somehow. Even friends with a more mainstream music taste love Tool. It is to cold an feels too controlled for me I think. I'm a big advocate of Italian progressive rock, music can make me shed a tear and create a smile often in the same song. After watching your analysis, (and struggling with the snapping exercise) I'm more confident that it is just not my cup of tea. But I do appreciate the brains and musicianship of Tool even more now. Keep up your excellent work!
@hilmarkoerner2603
Жыл бұрын
I love your interpretation and explanation using visuals that we all understand. I am a scientist and explaining this piece to somebody is just confusing. They understand your language.
@richpeltier9519
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I would strongly recommend the next time you visit TOOL, watch the video of the Drum Cam for Pneuma. A wonderful expansion on their work with poly rhythms! 🤘🧙♂️🤘 Rich tAMB
@matthewmckenzie1434
Жыл бұрын
I agree with another comment here. I’d love to see you listen to and break down pneuma by tool. There is a part of the song that just the drummer is holding a crazy polyrhythm and it’s very interesting to listen to.
@realthing66
Жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel. Love your videos. Subscribed! 🙂
@Hartlor_Tayley
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this analysis you really explained it all very well. Thank you I’m going to listen again
@ricardillapujagut8073
Жыл бұрын
As others have pointed out, the song wasn't really structured with the fibonacci sequence in mind and the theme was only added by Maynard when writing the lyrics. And the actual connections to the sequence are somewhat superficial. * The word grouping in the verse follows the sequence. But in a not very consistent way, and without much effect to the rhythm structure of the rest of instruments. * The time signatures in the chorus are 9/8 - 8/8 - 7/8. But that was mostly a coincidence and has a very naive relationship with 987. Because that relationship only exists with decimal notation, so it just relates to our base 10 representation of the number, not the number itself. For instance, 987 in octal notation would be 1733. A relationship that depends on a specific notation is not mathematically relevant. * Maynard starts singing after after 97 seconds, which divided by 1 minute (60 seconds), is a number somewhat close to the golden ratio. But the one minute mark is not super relevant to the song anyway and the ratio there doesn't really mean much. There are a few fun little references to the fibonacci sequence, but they are always a little tongue-in-cheek and not mathematically rigorous at all nor integral to the structure of the song. This is why in the chorus Maynard reminds the listener not to overthink it too much :). This song is very close to my heart and very emotional for me, and I would love seeing more analyses of it independent of its superficial relationship with the fibonacci sequence.
@EiriUesugiKun
Жыл бұрын
This video is a great example why I like to watch musicians reacting to Tool or other prog bands. :)
@Meta14ever
Жыл бұрын
Do Tool Descending/ Pneuma analysis or reaction. Please !!!
@MartianPlanetArt
11 ай бұрын
Tool has a song titled, '46&2'
@DogFromLondon
Жыл бұрын
While I thoroughly enjoy your video, all about it, the language, the sophistication, the expertise, down to the atom analysis, I'd like to just say, that you are decomposing A rock/metal song. Something which is of a niche today, maybe not as much as classical music, but still far less popular than e.g. crappy pop or hip-hop. I'd like people to appreciate the effort and thought put through by TOOL to create such piece of art, like with many other of their work. The fact that you spent 40 minutes in two videos on it, while not belittling it, is a testament of its quality. Thank you :) Tool fan...
@posic3073
Жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy the explanations and insights of a more learned mind in music. Thank you.
@artfarty9822
7 ай бұрын
Like a lot of tool fans, my first introduction to Tool was the Sober video on MTV in the 90s. At the time I was living with a lady who was into R&B and hip hop and jazz. Needless to say, my musical tastes didn’t get much respect from her and her family. Once I got out of that relationship, I stumbled into a music store and started looking for the CD with Sober on it (Undertow, but I didn’t know it at the time). Fortunately or unfortunately, however you choose to view it, they didn’t have Undertow, but they did have Aenima, which I bought, got it home and played it. There were a couple tracks I liked, but generally…eh. But then I played it through a couple of times… the again…and again. And I got it.. Pretty much the same with Lateralus. My brother in law burned me a copy, which I barely listened to. Then, one night while working graveyard shift, the FM station in town had a nightly show called 10 O’Clock Tool. And I heard the Holy Trinity. From that point on, Tool is dominant on every play list I have, including classical playlists… Through that 10 O’clock Tool show I was also introduced to APC and Puscifer- it never stops amazing me the depth… the genius . There is a spiritual aspect to tool music I really don’t have the words to explain.
@alanjames762
Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I discovered your channel, you’re a wonder!
@crazydrummer181
Жыл бұрын
Thank for the interesting dive into this song.
@helenespaulding7562
Жыл бұрын
Another very famous piece of classic rock….which is well known for the drums snd bass being at a different rhythm from the guitar in certain sections, is Black Dog by Zeppelin.
@agentsquish
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. What a great analysis 👏
@garrettmarshall1288
Жыл бұрын
Also, the Fibonacci sequence in the vocal performance is in the syllables during the verse. Each word in each line builds upon the sequence. It goes up and then back down the sequence. Sound it out and count. It’s there!
@helenespaulding7562
Жыл бұрын
Um….she just did that very thing in her review?
@gurglinghermits3043
Жыл бұрын
Are you okay bruh
@garrettmarshall1288
Жыл бұрын
@@helenespaulding7562 yea I didn’t See the second part. But I have now so oops. I actually commented on the wrong part. Jeez
@garrettmarshall1288
Жыл бұрын
@@gurglinghermits3043 yea I just realized I commented on the wrong part. Oops.
@helenespaulding7562
Жыл бұрын
@@garrettmarshall1288 you can delete your comment so you don’t get razzed anymore 😉
@denniswhite3487
Жыл бұрын
Another Tool piece you might enjoy that is very moving is Pneuma. I would love you to review it!
@lisasechler5714
5 ай бұрын
Please do more T00L and Rush!
@allisonal
Жыл бұрын
If Amy is looking for more melody I’d strongly recommend looking into the Austin music scene. There are thousands(?) of world-class rock musicians there making a living playing onstage nightly, allowing them to hone their skills to the highest degree. There is truly something for everyone. I guess in other locations, musical talent that is more devoted to musicianship than appealing to the masses might die off (by having to get a day job), but in Austin it is able to thrive due to the supportive live music environment they’ve intentionally built. As for relevance to Rock History, they might not often take center stage, but Austin players are constantly just out of the spotlight playing supporting roles on the rock greats’ albums and tours.
@JonathanMartin884
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your first impression and analysis of the song. I am not a musician in any way, but I do know that they can essentially replicate this song live, as they can all their other songs. If you listen to a band like The Mars Volta, which does a lot of what you want from Tool here, they have trouble replicating that same sound live. Tool does all this with three musicians and a singer. They may bring another musician along during some tours, but I don't think that is common.
@CarlYota
Жыл бұрын
That’s because they didn’t mathematically design the song. The played it by feel and it turned out that it happened to line up. They weren’t trying to force the music to fit the numbers.
@seasideman
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Amy. This music has always struck me as cold and unengaging, and you perfectly explained why it makes me feel like that. It's rhythmically clever, but the melodies and harmonies to match the rhythms are insufficient. Brian Eno once commented that very complicated rhythms are capable of carrying a great deal of melody and it's a real shame that this is not done with this piece.
@ericjonesy71
Жыл бұрын
Opinions vary
@13lueBerryBluntz
Жыл бұрын
Well that’s just like, your opinion, man. 😅
@pdcrmr
Жыл бұрын
On the Fear Inoculum album, Pneuma, the 7th song (not counting interstitial music) on their 7th album uses seven as the basis for the time signatures
@jobyoanvillarreal9400
Жыл бұрын
May I suggest Breaking all illusions from the band Dream Theater? thanks!
@midwestmidasmining
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great analysis! I appreciate that what you seem to love most about music is melody and/or harmony. However, rock music is all about the rhythm. You will probably enjoy it more when you make peace with this. Anyway, keep up the excellent work!
@JoeBlow_4
Жыл бұрын
What a great way to explain that was heard. Just really well done. Listen to "The Golden Path".
@kiasidhe
Жыл бұрын
I´ve followed this channel for a while. I wish it could take a step back to the more basic kind of rock music, like The Troggs "Wild thing" or something. This Tool, Lateralus thing did make it to my playlist though.
@mattthomason7514
Жыл бұрын
Imagine watching a top notch hip hop dance routine, and then saying you couldn't like it because there weren't enough pirouettes. Rock and metal songs, in general, don't have complex melodic or harmonic development. I feel like Amy will be hard-pressed to like any rock song.
@allisonal
Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you didn’t feel drawn into the music! Maybe because you missed the 40 mins of music that preceded it. This album is a beautifully designed cohesive musical work, with varying degrees of melody and rhythm throughout. When I listen to the full album, I always feel like one song carries me into the next, and overall it really absorbs me and takes me somewhere. I think it would be jarring and less enjoyable to come in as you did 2/3 of the way through, at somewhat of the climax (just what you were talking about on the song scale in the first listen video!) And the song has a long intro that functions more as a palette cleanser from what came before (which was quite emotionally intense/draining 😉) than a super necessary part of a radio single-type song. I think I might have suggested starting it just where the vocals come in, to get a stronger first impression of just the one song. I guess the promise of a song built on the Fibonacci sequence set you up for some disappointment. I haven’t followed the band closely so I don’t know what they say about it, but to me it sounds like a kernel of an idea that they allowed to take on a life of its own (as the lyrics suggest) rather than the be-all end-all Fibonacci rock song 😂 When I first listened to it, all I heard were some cool rhythms that were unusual yet memorable and enjoyable.
@The_Kiosk
Жыл бұрын
This right here. Lateralus is also an entire album.
@michaellambert5223
Жыл бұрын
I always considered Megadeath as math rock too! Take a dive into some of their music some day, I will be there! A couple others I missed in a different comment elsewhere would be Polyphia and Yes. Both crazy good!!
@horoldo77
Жыл бұрын
You should check out Pneuma by Tool. There is a drum cam of Danny Carey that has millions of views. Or even listen to the studio version, but drum cam gives you a view of the genius of Danny. Each of these Band members are really top of their game.
@Catman_321
Жыл бұрын
I recommend you listen to other tool songs if you liked the intricate though expressive style. They have many songs like this with varying themes and feelings you can attribute to it and it's really easy to spiral into
@lisasechler5714
5 ай бұрын
Yes please Vlad and Amy!
@philosophicsblog
Жыл бұрын
@13:40 putting head and rubbing stomach. exactly. 😂
@DavidSmith-cc5hk
Жыл бұрын
Vitamin String Quartet has some good TOOL covers.
@kellydickinson1773
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't find a good symphonic arrangement of Lateralus on KZitem but another song from the same album has a good one: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kax5l3-KfJmSgHo
@tylerbuckner3750
Жыл бұрын
As a drummer, I remember the first time I heard the 5/4 polyrhythm and it clicked kinetically. It’s kinda like riding a bike now. It’s a groove you can’t unfeel.
@ks5553
Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people in your comments probably over-hyped this as far as the Fibonacci correlation. Yes, it's there. But it wasn't written with that concept in mind. The way Tool approaches the writing process is this: the band writes all the music together without the singer involved (this usually takes between 5 and 13 years per album lol). Once the music is complete and finished, Maynard (the singer) listens to what they have done, and writes the lyrics based on what he feels in the music. So once the band was done he happened to notice the Fib sequence in this music and applied lyrics that... sort of obviously point to it, while also making fun of it. He is quite the character... writing incredibly deep and profound lyrics while also making a joke out of everything at the same time. In this instance, "Look at this amazing math. Don't be an idiot by looking at this amazing coincidence of math and forget that you're listening to an amazing tribal rhythm"
@fuelflownormal
Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe in coincidence. I also run and swim in time depending in speed or going up/down hill. Great channel.
@xmlviking
Жыл бұрын
I have seen Tool three times. And they are simply amazing. Mostly in Portland. I love Tool so much . Washington state as well. This was early. And I can tell you. They brought people together, regardless of any particular political ideology. LOVE ME some Tool. Carrey is a prodigy as well as Maynard. Adam, well yeah...a Rock GOD.
@minddriver6358
Жыл бұрын
On the danger to repeat me: If you are searching for a band and a song, which put as much or even more intensity into the melodic structure as into the rhythm, listen to "Close to the edge" or "Awaken" by Yes. You'll find everything there and in many of their musical artworks from the 70s aera, what you miss here and in other guitar shredding songs.
@AdolphMarx
Жыл бұрын
When you recount the lyrics it becomes more poetic.
@medusa2820
Жыл бұрын
I think your analysis is very good.I like how you try to educate the average listener and you did really well explaining concepts by using good and simple examples. As you already mentioned, the song does not offer much in terms of harmony and melody. Sadly, this is a general thing with Tool and it is the reason why i can not really connect with them. While their music is appealing in a certain way, it leaves me somehow cold and disconnected.
@konradtomala3580
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I kind of like some of progressive metal bands (e.g. Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, prefer progressive rock though) but this song doesn't work for me. The general vibe is too cold for my taste and I lack strong melody content in it, which is sth I look for the most in music.
@chrisgamble5843
Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to respond to this...not at all negative. It just amazes me that you feel that way..."cold and disconnected" because the millions of fans out there think the complete opposite. Truly we have said that this band saved our lives! Made us go inside instead of blame the outside forces. Maybe it's because we know the background of the journey of the lead singer...it's been a factual journey of emotional evolution for him. Maybe without the backstory for most of these songs and knowing from the depths that the words come from...I understand it being cold. Again...please don't take that as me bashing you...just amazes me.
@HunkyTalkenMonkey01
Жыл бұрын
Is there a prog rock or metal band that fits your taste in the melody department? I would check them out =)
@HunkyTalkenMonkey01
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgamble5843 The draw from the start, for me, was always purely the music. I didn't even have faces to put to names for the first couple yrs
@flyingintheface6139
Жыл бұрын
That's probably what attracted me to this band,I got bored with simple melodies and harmonies all the time. I think Maynard fills in that gap with the band A Perfect Circle.
@jakemorrison482
Жыл бұрын
Drum cam from Danny would really inspire you
@thomoose4647
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what happened to Miss Hathaway from the Beverly Hillbillies.
@digibirder
Жыл бұрын
Have you heard Amy Meyer's version of "Lateralus" on the harp? It sounds really good!
@LeeKennison
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting mathematical observations and insights Amy. Hopefully there won't be a pop quiz in the next video.😉
@VirginRock
Жыл бұрын
No worries! Lol! I’m always telling my young students that if I can just get them to count to three, and subdivide every single beat into whatever divisions are necessary, that will get them through practically anything. Even the most complex stuff can be broken into smaller bits:-)
@LeeKennison
Жыл бұрын
@@VirginRock Very true. With bars (measures), you can either look at something as 7/4 time, or a bar of 3/4 followed by a 4/4 bar. Often the later is easier for some people to comprehend and count. I knew that elementary school math when they taught us fractions would come in handy some day.😉
@Hartlor_Tayley
Жыл бұрын
@@LeeKennison well…. 7/8 is different than 3/4 followed by 4/4. Think of a bicycle with one wheel as a triangle and the other is a square, your getting three beats on the triangle in the same distance you get four from the square. If you alternate playing 3/4 and 4/4 you will have three long beats and four short beats as opposed to a steady seven in 7/4 or 7/8. I only know this because of an argument back before the internet, the song “Estimated Prophet” by Grateful Dead ( the song of contention) is played in alternating measures of 3/4 and 4/4 and not in straight seven. It makes the music sound warped in a way. Trippy for sure. But what you and Amy said about breaking long counts into smaller pieces is what I do too, sorry to nerd out on ya there.
@LeeKennison
Жыл бұрын
@@Hartlor_Tayley Did you mean to open by saying 7/4 rather than 7/8? Because yes, 7/8 is different from 7/4, and 7/8 definitely isn't the same as 3/4 + 4/4; but I do consider 7/4 to be equivalent to 3/4 + 4/4. At least for general purposes, perhaps there are subtle differences I am not aware of, along the lines you are mentioning. My opinion is certainly not based on any vast music theory knowledge. I have just seen the same score written both ways by different people. My bass instructor also mentioned this in his music reading course, if I am remembering correctly. I certainly could be wrong, but you are definitely messing with my mathematics understanding.😉
@Hartlor_Tayley
Жыл бұрын
@@LeeKennison I know it messed me up too. I’m not technically able to explain it at all. 7/4 7/8 are different. The 3/4 4/4 thing sounds like 3 slower and four faster but only slightly and leaning into the waltz on the first three and straight four on the rest. There is actually a groove to it, but it’s different. Hardy anyone does this but some songs do throw in an extra half measure or so every now and then that does a similar thing. Set up a drum pattern with a measure of 3/4 and a measure of 4/4 and loop it. It’s pretty cool.
@gregorykenfield3134
Жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend that you become familiar with the band Dream Theater. Their use of both melody and rhythm in interesting and intricate ways might satisfy your wish for more melodic diversity as mentioned in this analysis. God bless!!
@7EMpEsTo
Жыл бұрын
The sequence started because the time signature is 9/8 8/8 7/8 repeating and 987 is a fibanacci number
@flyingintheface6139
Жыл бұрын
She does say that in the video. Maybe you should've watched it before commenting.
@wojciechwisniewski8984
Жыл бұрын
This Xenakis guy puts a fresh perspective to the famous saying "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"...
@The_Kiosk
Жыл бұрын
Word. I am a bassist as well. Happy belated birthday to JC.
@edrannou3914
Жыл бұрын
Please try the group Renaissance. The lead singer Annie Haslam has a 5 octave voice.
@Hartlor_Tayley
Жыл бұрын
Voice of an angel.
@claytoncardoso4538
Жыл бұрын
Tool checked. Now it is time for MESHUGGAH!
@DJ_Cthulhu
Жыл бұрын
Xenakis 🤘
@Hartlor_Tayley
Жыл бұрын
Xenakis was mad as a hatter ;)
@ward9
Жыл бұрын
Went back and listened to Iannis Xenakis - Metastasis and wow.. This sounds like a scary movie soundtrack.
@martyfrancis1011
Жыл бұрын
You have to check out a Meshugah song. They are the kings of Math music and polyrythms.
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