Would love to see an updated list of this....its been nearly 4yrs.
@adamgardner2244
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Even get the team to speak on it as well
@darinlagarry3091
5 жыл бұрын
We agree on Imperial Assault, Descent 2nd Ed, Gloomhaven, and Thunderstone Quest. I would add to this list Folklore the Affliction and Temple of Elemental Evil (or any of the D&D dungeon crawlers)
@kennethpaschall4801
5 жыл бұрын
Took a risk on Gloomhaven just recently and I am so glad I did. Love that game. I also really enjoy the D&D dungeon crawlers and Imperial Assault. My next purchase is going to be Descent.
@frantishekressel3910
6 күн бұрын
At 2:52, the transition between Seth face and Tom’s in Arcadia Quest is a masterpiece! ❤
@4ntonio
5 жыл бұрын
2:52 couldn't have been a coincidence. Lovely editing. :P
@longstaff2258
5 жыл бұрын
Shadows of Brimstone is my favorite by far. Super fun with a group who gets into the RP aspects.
@MatthewKarns123
5 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Mice & Mystics get some love. One of my favorite games!!!
@PurpleMoose23
5 жыл бұрын
Sword & Sorcery is at the top of my list currently, but can't wait to try out Middara at some point!
@holysmoke8439
5 жыл бұрын
Did u do the expansion
@PurpleMoose23
5 жыл бұрын
@@holysmoke8439 Expansion to Sword & Sorcery? Yeah, I picked up the all in pledge in a trade. Have played through the core game and all of Arcane Portal and am in the middle of Darkness Falls now. Still very much enjoying the game!
@g470m
5 жыл бұрын
@@PurpleMoose23 we finished Darkness falls and WE are on Vastaryous!
@MarkWilliamson-kc6lh
5 жыл бұрын
Dungeon Alliance is a brilliant crawler that uses cards for actions and movement etc. Great refreshing take on the genre
@Brockoly3
5 жыл бұрын
Shadows of Brimstone is by far the most fun dungeon crawl I've ever played, but alas Tom will never play it because it has minis he has to assemble.
@lynnbowers4722
5 жыл бұрын
Considering what Tom does for a living, doesn't he know anyone who would be willing to, or even enjoy, assembling the minis? I understand his distaste for the task, and I know Shadows of Brimstone would be a MUCH more popular game if the minis came assembled, but it's a shame he'll never play such an awesome game.
@Steve-L
5 жыл бұрын
@@lynnbowers4722 He did. He had a set and gave it to someone to assemble, but the person or set dissapeared. I can't recall the whole story, but it was spoken about on a video or 2 a couple years back or more.
@ZakiJeppe
5 жыл бұрын
And that is a massive problem! I backed the first kickstarter, got the base games and did assemble them... Then came all the extra stuff and I ended up selling it cause I didn't wanna assemble 100 or more minis. I don't understand this decision by Flying Frog. Why not offer a pledge where the minis came assembled? I would still be playing this great game. Alas...
@gambit82283
5 жыл бұрын
Same reason I won’t play it lol, plus looking at them, I don’t get it, they are less detailed than single piece minis or pre-assembled ones from other companies. Usually I expect them to have massively better detail if unassembled, but I think Flying Frog dripped the ball there.
@Brockoly3
5 жыл бұрын
@@gambit82283 the core game models aren't the best. Expansions and newer core boxes are much better quality. Some of the larger models are single molds.
@ScherFire
5 жыл бұрын
Nice list! I liked the pacing and graphics of this one a lot more ; more like this please!
@hackersguidedan
5 жыл бұрын
my current favorite because its what im playing currently is Folklore:The Affliction, then Shadows of Brimstone, and several I know im forgetting
@TheMastermindX11
5 жыл бұрын
Personally I'm a huge fan of Perdition's Mouth, as it captures the growing tension as you crawl deeper in the dungeon.
@geekkafka
5 жыл бұрын
Perdition's mouth is a great dungeon crawler. Currently my favorite. The problem is that some people associate dungeon crawlers with buckets full of dice.
@jahens6529
5 жыл бұрын
Gloomhaven definitely takes my top spot as well, but my second favorite has to be Sword & Sorcery. I'm going to have to check out Middara after watching this!
@crimsonsun2000
5 жыл бұрын
Love Sword and Sorcery, I have Middara coming which is very much along those lines, 2nd KS is this year. :;
@gambit82283
5 жыл бұрын
Gloomhaven, Sword & Sorcery, and Folklore are my favorites right now, but I can’t wait for my Middara to arrive!
@Clappincardboard
5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you talk about descent 2e again :). My favorite from the list although I haven’t played all of them on there.
@sanemalk9957
5 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to a Dungeon Crawler Top Ten. Most of my board game group comes from a tabletop RPG background. Thanks!
@kevynhansyn2902
5 жыл бұрын
I need to be in your group!!! Too bad my teleporter doesnt work.
@Meuchlor
6 ай бұрын
We need an updated list! Pleeeeeeeease x)
@Falkdr
5 жыл бұрын
Galaxy Defenders would be my favourite but it's a really tough choice with so many good DCs.
@JT-mq6oc
3 жыл бұрын
Could we have an updated list please Tom!?
@theunamiable
5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently checking out Dungeon Alliance and Perdition's Mouth, which both seem pretty cool tactical games.
@vladislav_l
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for top. I have the duet of favorite dungeon crawlers, it’s Folklore and Shadow of Brimstone
@arcubal
5 жыл бұрын
Although Descent 2 and Mansions of Madness 2 will probably still top my list, there are a lot of dungeon crawlers that are coming out in 2019/20 that will rock my world: Hellboy: The Board Game, Okko Chronicles, Skull Tales: Full Sail!, Solomon Kane, Machina Arcana, and Assassin's Creed. Oh my.
@TheDavidorse123
5 жыл бұрын
I got to say I'm really enjoying resident evil 2 and quickly moving up my list for Dungeon Crawlers
@DHarbajan
5 жыл бұрын
What about zombiecide Black Plague?
@ShiYuMeng2
5 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is my #1 Dungeon Crawl. I am adapting RPG rules (equipment tree that needs unlocking after every scenario).
@CordiglieraDelleAnde
4 жыл бұрын
@@ShiYuMeng2 could you please tell me where i can find a PDF for RPG rules for zombicide black palgue/green horde?
@user-fr1ys2wn4t
2 жыл бұрын
Tom's top 10 list of dungeon crawlers where most games are described as: "meeeaahhh this isn't really a dungeon crawl" 😄
@eatem1978
5 жыл бұрын
My favorite is Kingdom Death Monster. Also like Shadows of Brimstone. But I need to play more Gloomhaven too, awesome game.
@loicovis426
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot Tom! Always love your videos and you recomendations!
@dmcallahan32
5 жыл бұрын
My Top Ten Dungeon Crawler's Tom didn't List, list: 10) Conan, 9)Folklore the Affliction, 8)The Others, 7)Lobotomy, 6)Betrayal Legacy, 5)Sword & Sorcery, 4)Aventuria: Adventure Card Game, 3)Myth, 2)Deep Madness, 1) Shadows of Brimstone
@Freyalder
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Myth :D Others to some extent. Want to try shadows of brimstone!
@pasqualecirone9755
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a backer of Middara and I'm surprised it made #3 on Tom's list. I don't own but I love TMNT. Gloomhaven, which I own, is also no surprise. I am surprised that Shadows of Brimstone isn't on the list.
@rockxhero
5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned Arcadia Quest! I know you liked Level 7:Omega Protocol, which you mentioned. Surprised it didn’t make your list! I also didn’t expect you to mention Cutthroat Caverns or Thunderstone Quest, but can see why you would.
@Dandyphonic
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this a year later, I'm pretty excited to try oathsworn: into the deepwood :)
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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@psmylife6832
5 жыл бұрын
A 7 min video in a Top 10 - awesome!!
@PappaTrond
5 жыл бұрын
Love Shadows of Brimstone, Imperial Assault, Sord & Sorcery and Descent. Can't wait to get Middara, Thunderstone Quest and Catacombs. But - currently we're on a deep Gloomhaven stint - Gloomhaven all the way until we have completed the campaign.
@Jaisyl77
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! So looking forward to playing Middara after seeing it as your #3!
@Marviczekpusiczek
5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Rise of Moloch? Otherwise a nice top 10 list.
@seawurm
5 жыл бұрын
I am a huge Shadows of Brimstone fanboy.
@Vaole
5 жыл бұрын
That is the only dungeon crawler I have ever liked, but I only got to play one session of it.
@ashvarkul3215
5 жыл бұрын
Would have been a worthy addition. I dont really see card only games as dungeon crawlers, but well if its about dungeon exploring thats fine I guess. KDM though would not have been a dungeon crawl, there is no dungeon in the game (yet)
@longstaff2258
5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@johnriley7479
5 жыл бұрын
My Sister's family really likes Dark Souls. I don't see it mentioned anywhere. I like rolling dice, so this one was fun.
@orbitingdecay6797
4 жыл бұрын
It's a really terrible game.
@Sjeng
5 жыл бұрын
I have 7 out of 10 of those, and also love them. Some others I like a lot: Warhammer Quest Silver Tower, Deep Madness, Darklight Memento Mori, Shadows of Brimstone, Massive Darkness, all the D&D dungeon board games (Drizzt/Ravenloft etc), Folklore, Conan. And some I own but have yet to try: Endure the Stars, Sword & Sorcery, Dungeon Saga, Myth. So many to choose from!
@jakesanders9834
5 жыл бұрын
That arcadia quest chibi overlayed toms face perfectly hahaha. I saw tom with parted long plastic hair.
@realshaolinprince
5 жыл бұрын
Shadows of Brimstone and Darklight Momento Memori have to be my top currently! Oh and Dungeon Degenerates but that is pretty mature themed.
@MashingP
5 жыл бұрын
I love DD but it's an adventure game not a dungeon crawl.
@orbitingdecay6797
4 жыл бұрын
Darklight has some balance issues and is pretty much abandoned.
@marcuswilliams8762
5 жыл бұрын
Where’s there grandaddy of them all, surely HeroQuest should be number 1? Here’s my list for what it’s worth; 1. HeroQuest 2. HeroQuest 3. HeroQuest 4. HeroQuest 5. HeroQuest 6. HeroQuest 7. HeroQuest 8. HeroQuest 9. HeroQuest 10. HeroQuest Honorary mentions that don’t quite make my top 10, HeroQuest and Heroquest
@ChristianAdventureGamer
5 жыл бұрын
I wish Tom and Sam would try Folklore: The Affliction
@mikkerdtm9878
5 жыл бұрын
For me 'Folklore: The Affliction' is missing in this list! Otherwise great list.
@alx4nex
5 жыл бұрын
How about Dungeon Alliance? People that have played say it is one of the best. And there is a second printing coming out.
@JakubWojtowitz
5 жыл бұрын
It's my top 1 DC and top 1 solo. Mechanics is alike Mage Knight but lighter, and I prefer it over Gloomhaven.
@sadaqat1851
5 жыл бұрын
Kingdom death monster
@BenSaidScott
5 жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see Level 7 Omega Protocol, that game got a lot of buzz from you guys initially, but seems to have fallen off the grid.
@yogibbear
5 жыл бұрын
He mentioned it at 11
@BenSaidScott
5 жыл бұрын
@@yogibbear Then I am not very good at listening!!! =)
@jdebarr
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of you list, though I just can't get into the Anime or teenage mutant ninja turtle theme's. Descent was the first dungeon crawl I ever played and that was because of you Tom, and for that reason it is close to my heart. I also love mansions of madness, thunderstone anything, and Arcadia quest, which again were games I got into because of The Dice Tower. All and all a great list. I would also add the Dungeons and Dragons board games, Aventuria, and Sword and Sorcery.
@roshrosh100
5 жыл бұрын
I’m looking into buying sword and sorcery, but is it too fiddly? Or is it similar to descent in terms of book keeping?
@jdebarr
5 жыл бұрын
@@roshrosh100 I love it, in a way it is better than Descent at lease with 2 players, because it is a Coop. I found it a little fiddly in the beginning but once you get down the steps it flows rather nice and makes sense. If you like descent I think you will like Sword and Sorcery
@paulwastney5134
Жыл бұрын
How about a top 10 fantasy campaign dungeon crawler list?
@ignitioncore
5 жыл бұрын
Middara beat out both Gloomhaven and Sword & Sorcery for my group. Despite it's current KS woes, Super Dungeon Explore is my favorite, but only if played by the 2.0 print and play rules.
@TheDungeonDive
5 жыл бұрын
#1 for me is definitely Secrets of the Lost Tomb. Been into hobby games since the 80s, and nothing matches Lost Tomb in terms of theme and atmosphere. It's an outstanding dungeon crawl, especially with all of the expansions.
@cassandracastro2759
5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get Middara, I actually got the pre-sale link, but when I used it, it was already out of stock. I haven't played many dungeon crawlers, but I really like Descent 2nd ed, Arcadia Quest, The Others, and Thunderstone Quest.
@Mrwigglyau
5 жыл бұрын
You guys need to cover resident evil 2
@JonoNZBoardGamer
5 жыл бұрын
The new music is hilariously epic sounding! Its a bit odd if I'm honest, but not terrible.
@kerryviens7049
5 жыл бұрын
Deep Madness? Journey: Wrath of Demons? Alien vs Predator 2nd Edition?
@VaultBoy13
5 жыл бұрын
1. Gloomhaven 2. Claustrophobia 1643 3. Blackstone Fortress 4. Mansions of Madness: 2E 5. Big Trouble in Little China 6. Imperial Assault 7. Mechs vs. Minions 8. Conan 9. The World of SMOG: Rise of Moloch 10. Sword & Sorcery I realize some people might not consider MvM a dungeon crawler. But, aside from looting it really has all the trappings. Sword & Sorcery would be in the Top 5 if it was less fiddly. The game really needs an app. On the other hand, Gloomhaven without an app would probably slip to 3.
@edwinrumbledove
5 жыл бұрын
Felt sure you would include Catacombs Tom! Nice list though, gonna check out Middara now.
@JimCrimmins
5 жыл бұрын
Another note to take a look at Deep Madness. It's very well done and works great.
@MrDaveydtd
5 жыл бұрын
Even though it's really fiddly I love STREET MASTERS
@tempestfury8324
5 жыл бұрын
Gloomhaven? Really? What a shocker! I love the adrenaline mechanic in Level 7: Omega Protocol. It's a good game. Super Dungeon Explore is really fun albeit with some convoluted rules and the Kickstarter ripoff was inexcusable.
@Toriko667
5 жыл бұрын
Doom(2016) is very popular in our play group.
@dallasuphold1745
5 жыл бұрын
Just putting out there... I still like Dungeonquest
@snailysaurus
5 жыл бұрын
Dallas Uphold , I like it, too, particularly because of its EXTREMELY challenging nature: I've been playing this game for almost a decade and have never won! Not crazy about the combat rules, though; I heard that the combat system might have been changed in the 3rd edition (which I don't have)- anybody know about this (I guess I just could watch a review)?
@Avaniar
5 жыл бұрын
I would rank shadows of brimstone at 2, possibly at 1 above gloomhaven because of the simplicity and leveling up, which is something i aim for in a dungeon crawler. Sure gloomhaven is more strategic and a brain burner, but in a pure dungeon crawler i am looking more for a fun direct approach. I know people will stone me to death for this but I absolutely love Myth. The whole action deck and stuff. Also Shadowscape (any Mistfall world game but shadowscape especially), dungeon alliance and maximum apocalypse
@michaelcastiglia2145
5 жыл бұрын
No Zombicide, Black Plague, Green Horde, or Modern? I'm surprised. Figured this would at least make #9 or 10.
@alcovitch
5 жыл бұрын
Their not dungeon crawlers in the slightest though.
@Steve-L
5 жыл бұрын
Those would probably make Sam or Zee's list.
@michaelcastiglia2145
5 жыл бұрын
Alcovitch how are they different than Imperial Assault? And definitely more dungeon crawler than MotM
@smcshaw
5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you didn't mention Warlock of the Firetop Mountain! ...
@astrostasis6928
5 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to have a list of ones you haven’t played? curious to see how that stacks up against your list. Thanks for the video.
@randallschweiker1731
5 жыл бұрын
Hey dt crew, I love the top tens. Please keep doing them! If possible, and enough crew play the genres/themes, please make a 3 panel top 10 of Japanime- and/or Chibi-style games; for me, these are two different genres/themes.
@mattvucu6706
5 жыл бұрын
Sword and Sorcery gets my #1-7, Zombicide BP/GH is my #8, descent/imperial assault #9, Warhammer Quest/SoB #10, Gloomhaven just didn’t mesh with me but people seem to love it
@mauriceoksman8594
5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...noticed a lot of Shadows of Brimstone comments... First let me start by saying Shadows of Brimstone is an amazing dungeon crawler and generally my go to solo dungeon crawler-BUT it didn’t start off that way. The original base games enemies were a little bleh by themselves, mechanically speaking it’s not really innovative and definitely has some balance issues in terms of balanced paths to upgrades, especially for characters like the Bandito who seems to have only one main path (melee) to keep him anywhere near the XP monster in almost any path-AKA Saloon Girl. Although I gave it more of a try as people raves about it addressed my complaints recommending some expansions to lively things up-and it definitely did. I’m sure those starting at Forbidden Fortress did not have this experience as flying flog really upped it’s game with what is one of the most innovative and kind fan-bases I’ve ever met (I’m looking at you Jee and Klutz!). People have taken huge advantage of the framework of this game and freely put so much love into creating campaigns, card creators*, dividers, difficulty adjustments,etc...and FFP has been extremely receptive in compiling a nice FAQ based on feedback. Now I get it, maybe the original version of this game might not have survived, but playing the new FF has really shined in a lot of the balance areas, variable player power balance and complex/variable enemies right out of the box (making it a very reasonable retail purchase from miniatures market for what you get.) Ultimately, where this game really shines is theme. No sandbox dungeon crawler makes jumping worlds through portals more fun-yet still there is underlying Cthulhu-esk darkstone theme that gives each enemy a twist-not to mention the good and bad mutations you and your animal companions can get. My party travels around with a pack animal to carry gear-the sturdy two headed-donkey Ol’betsy-and that’s what it’s all about. Don’t get me wrong, this is definitely not a game I’d recommend to people who like puzzle solving where you really have to dig deep and be on point all the time-I love those games too-Gloomhaven, Hybrid games, euro games, but SoB offers the unapologetic Ameritrash as it immerses you as close as possible to a RPG feeling while still being a full COOP. Crazy combination muster themselves as your Shotgun toting nun blasts away a bunch of undead astronauts in the abandoned Derelict ship, only then find a portal you were hoping was home, but instead you find yourself between waring factions on an WWI-esk universe where darkstone has turned soldiers minds and the Great War has seemed to had a backwards evolution on human society turning people into more geographically oriented dystopian factions. There truly is no 1 campaign, and although I love the ‘Choose your own adventure’ Legacy styled games, this one offers something uniquely different-Especially now with this whole new Feudal Japanese stuff getting thrown into the darkstone mix. Their more recent kickstarter starting introducing smaller base sets, which I think is a great thing as they recognize variety is the heart of their game-I especially look forward to the Conquistadors, as it is a rarely touched upon theme in these genre of games. The other smaller starter in that recent KS is the more common Viking Mythology theme, but never forget the darkstone mutations that have seem to be far reaching into every part of time and space. Well, after building it up I will still stick with my mentality that it is a niché game as many people don’t want to build miniatures, even though these are super easy to build, have 2 molds per enemy, and are designed in a way to allow custom poses on a lot of their models. Self building also helps keep their price down, so you really do get quite a lot of high quality sculpts for what you pay. Although ultimately, even with KS making it more affordable, It’s pricey. Not KDM pricey, but you are paying for a high quality game. I don’t blame anyone who couldn’t care less about painting, building or even having miniatures and are perfectly fine with standees not feeling it worth it-makes sense, but, i’d also what makes the price higher and a niche product. If more people were buying Shadows of Brimstone, the kickstarter situation becomes a better and better deal-he’ll, the first KS was so ambitious that anyone who got a all-in ‘minecart’ pledge caused FFP to LOOSE money-Yet instead of ‘folding the cards’ FFP just put all their chips in this passion project they believed in-they were ‘pot dedicated’ at that point (ok, ok-I’ll stop with the bad dad puns). What we see now is how a game that could have turned out like Myth, turn into a game mechanically stronger than when they started. Yes, they’ve have and continue to have serious bumps in the road due to their original ambitious scope, but even respected veterans have fallen pray to these ‘insurance-esk’ pitfalls between negations with the Insurance company (the manufacturers) and the doctors (FFP); then all the patients (backers) start getting annoyed at the doctor for only being able to see them for 30 seconds, when really insurance companies either not paying or sending back EoBs for BS reasons like, ‘we can’t read your notes. rewrite those notes and add more to the patient you saw 3 months ago on a Monday morning.’ Seriously, many of you may not know how obnoxious plastic manufacturers can be, especially when they know you already promised the item through KS and 6 months later, they play ‘slow down’ games a contract’s version of Where’s Waldo’ because they know backers are yelling at FFP and not them-and FFP also has their own promises: out to KS, Backerkit, Distribution, Roof-over-their heads and ‘Your turn to wake up to feed the triplets, but you’re so tired you can’t even remember 1/3 of their names, but you will never admit that out loud’-but yeah, that’s life. Ask Cthulhu’s best friend, Sandy Peterson, about all those (except for maybe that last one-secrets do slip out when you intend to write a paragraph and you end up HERE). Ok-wrapping up and getting back on target I’ll admit the truth of the universe: everything is subjective-even time itself (ask a black hole and You’ll find out), so even I have a couple of CONS like: 1. I wish they could design a really cool plastic player dashboard that required no pen/paper/ipad to keep track of character stuff or at least ask me to design it for them. 2. have mini cards instead of standard cards for character items-but I’d settle for just the Frontier Town cards and ability cards that I swear they said they’d do-instead of having us having to rely on Klutz* and his magical ways (oh yeah-I didn’t forget that first asterisk!)... or at least let me help you design them. 3. Do a mini kickstarter implementing my system of tracking individual enemies and within a group’s Elite, Injuries, and special conditions. Also a sleek plastic initiative tracker have and their elites....or at least let me help you design them. 4. Do a KS hardcover/softcover with each volume containing all missions from each kickstarter and infusing the FAQ into the rules or in the back of the appropriate book; also let me create and further test my advanced difficulty setting and/help rebalance and reprint these changes or, at the very least, print out sticker pages to replace some of the early stuff I rebalanced and tested while playing....or at least let me help you design them. 5. Write at least 5 more pages on weird situations that come up, with 97% of it belonging either to Henchmen, the Gambler, or guns that hit multiple enemies. 3% of it will be about the 1:1000 situations where grit still finds a way to find a contradiction-I’ll pretend it’s to ‘help new players learn’, but, truthfully, I’ve actually searched for BGG questions about the very thing only to find someone answered me and realize I’ve already read that answer-to my satisfaction multiple times, yet seem to blank out the memory....That one you can let Jee write. Well if you’re still here you either own Shadows of Brimstone and agree or are hardcore on the fence, in which you realize you’ll soon be the former of the 2. Oh, and I should mention, I don’t work for FFP, but if my rant made them feel all warm inside I wouldn’t say no to finally getting 1 of the last on my list of what I have missing from the original KS (I really can’t warrant buying any SoB until I finish building and painting my all-in Forbidden Fortress): Blasted Wastes, Lost Armies, XXL Ancient One, XL Magma Giant, XL DS Scorpion, XL Waseland Terralisk and/or last 2 Supplements to set (Blasted Wastes).... Clearly I’m shameless....and pot dedicated-damn it, broke my own rule already.... Cheers! “One reaches the point where a stunning realization strikes home: The pencil tip is not solid; it is composed of atoms which whirl and revolve like a trillion demon planets. What seems solid to us is actually only a loose net held together by gravity. Viewed at their actual size, the distances between these atoms might become league, gulfs, aeons. The atoms themselves are composed of nuclei and revolving protons and electrons. One may step down further to subatomic particles. And then to what? Tachyons? Nothing? Of course not. Everything in the universe denies nothing; to suggest an ending is the one absurdity.” - Man-in-Black, Dark Tower(v1): The Gunslinger
@GreggBolinger
5 жыл бұрын
Folklore is at the tip top of my list.
@williamroop451
5 жыл бұрын
How does Folklore the Afflicted compare? I've been considering that instead of Gloomhaven.
@grzegorz2010
5 жыл бұрын
Folklore is less repetitiv, has a nice world map you actually travel on and have adventures. It has rumour cards that add more "reality" to the world, for example you can hear in a bar that someone has a lot of gold it his house and go to rob him but in the end be unable to break in. Folklore has definitly better item system-more stuff, more helpfull items, some can only be obtain by certain characters in certain places, items can be upgraded as soon as you get resources etc. When you die you go to ghost form and can still play and fight untill even you ghost gets killed. Plus you get very nice story like in gloom. For me folklore is much more fun and definetly less boring, I mean in gloom I had fun cards I wanted to play but it never was the best choice for the team since qe need to survive as long as possible so that "one time use" cards were rarly in play. I own KS version of folklore with all expansions so maybe if you buy only core game some of the goodness wont be there but if I could buy one I would go for folklore.
@williamroop451
5 жыл бұрын
@@grzegorz2010 Thanks for the quick response... Gloomhaven has been kind of an enigma to me with the who card/deck combat and movement aspect feeling sort of like Pathfinder Adventure Card system - a game that didn't quite hit the spot for me. Folklore seems more up my alley. You gave me a lot to think about.
@1AngelAlita
5 жыл бұрын
@@williamroop451 Check BGG, there are some comparison of these two games. Folklore is great and new KS is coming...
@stickandmud
4 жыл бұрын
Descent - playing overlord is the best I have ever played
@CptBumFlufff
4 жыл бұрын
I have really been enjoying Claustrophobia 1643 lately, always like a game of Level 7 Omega Protocol and Doom too :)
@KabukiKid
5 жыл бұрын
Is Tom using a new mic or something? Is it just me, or does the audio sound better than usual in this video? Whatever their audio setup is here, I hope they don't mess with it.
@asnpogi
5 жыл бұрын
Where is Sword and Sorcery in your list Tom?
@gamera2351
5 жыл бұрын
Tom, is the card game Heroes of Terrinoth on your short list? Wondering where it ranks for you.
@colmustard21
5 жыл бұрын
Tom, have you played Blackstone Fortress? If so, what did you think of it?
@Jeffs40K
5 жыл бұрын
Not a Fan of Gloomhaven, dungeon crawl should never have a limit to number turns you have by you running out of cards. .. No I own all and love Imp assault, and thinking of getting Descent, but I had not Heard of Middara, going to look in to it, I also own and like Arcada quest and its not really a Crawl to me (basically the PVP version of Super Dungeon Explorer), Just backed Folklore 3rd printing I think it is, and it seems to have a large following and its play is close to D&D style as you can get I think, great choices that effect the outcomes, I also like Dungeon Saga for a more Actual Fantasy Dungeon crawl feel, I have thunderstone I got from a trade, yet to play it yet though.
@stuartcoyle1626
5 жыл бұрын
The first dungeon crawler (boardgame rather than rpg) I was aware of was SPI's Deathmaze released in 1980. It has not really stood the test of time.
@mikloslipcsey7923
5 жыл бұрын
Stuart Coyle But it has to be said, it has a very small footprint. However, those chits can be so fiddly.
@Steve-L
5 жыл бұрын
I prefer a list of this type to be straight fantasy, and then I would include Fantasy Adventure games as well. However, while it was my looking for dungeon crawls or fantasy adventure games as board games when I came to the hobby, I no longer play them at all. When I did play them my favorites were: Tomb & Tomb: Cryptmaster - a dungeon crawl board game, basically D&D in a box. You entered a dungeon with rooms. the rooms could hold monsters, traps, curses, and treasure, and you collected these to increase the strength your group of adventurers. each player controlled their own group. and the winner had the most experience. the game has horrid rule books, which i think killed the game for most people. Cutthroat Caverns - a very decent light hearted dungeon crawl, but it was the 1 time adventure books that made it amazing! Talisman 4th edition - a top notch classic fantasy adventure, but very long, and so long I would only play at most 2 times a year. Prophecy - a game similar to Talisman but removed the roll & move aspect. Had potential to replace Talisman but did not have enough content and so became samey. Runebound 2nd edition - another Talisman style game, but also too long, but not as lengthy as Talisman, however I had less patience with it and preffered less players. The D&D system board games - a very short and tactical dungeon crawl. I owned the 1st 3 of this series ------------- I had a limited budget, and so there were some out there I may had loved, as I probably like them more like Sam, than Tom, but now, I have no interest in this genre at all. Sword & Sorcery and Arcadia Quest both looked promising to me. I no longer wish to play these style games. they were fun for a long time though.
@orbitingdecay6797
4 жыл бұрын
How come you no longer play?
@shaneannigans
5 жыл бұрын
10. DungeonQuest Revised Ed. 9. Vengeance 8. Wrath of Asardalon/Legend of Drizzt 7. One Deck Dungeon 6. Mistfall: Heart of the Mists 5. Gloomhaven 4. Mansions of Madness 2nd ed. 3. Heroes of Terrinoth 2. Descent 2nd ed. 1. Sword & Sorcery NB: Ranked as my Top 10 Dungeon Crawl experiences (not as my Top 10 designs). Also, with the exception of DungeonQuest, I mostly play solo. 🙂
@rockxhero
5 жыл бұрын
Shane Annigans 5 Min. Dungeon is fun too!
@shaneannigans
5 жыл бұрын
@@rockxhero Ah, yes, I've enjoyed that one too 😊
@Steve-yd9ki
5 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of love for Folk Lore: Affliction. I met the makers at Essen and talked to them a little bit about it but haven't pulled the trigger on buying the game yet, mostly because the folks I play with don't really do dungeon crawlers. I did play Gloomhaven for a while and I just don't care for it. I think the combat and initiative systems are clunky.
@kevinwallace1374
5 жыл бұрын
think there is a chance that Wander: Cult of Barnacle Bay will make the list in the future?
@ruffnarbobnar5960
4 жыл бұрын
I'm wanting to get my boys j to the dungeon crawl scene. I myself havnt played since I was a kid and I only ever played heroquest. Other than mice and mystics, or stuffed fable. What would yall suggest I get to break the ice with them
@psmylife6832
5 жыл бұрын
Have you played Sword & Sorcery? What did you think of that?
@willyum3108
5 жыл бұрын
I always thought of AQ as a skirmish type game and a dungeon crawl. I see alot of similarities of AQ with Hate.
@gamera2351
5 жыл бұрын
Tom, I know Sam likes Sword & Sorcery and Massive Darkness. Have you ever played them? Where would they rank?
@guillermoz4914
5 жыл бұрын
Love Tmnt Shadows of the Past!
@spldright
5 жыл бұрын
7:21 for list
@jonsnow7839
5 жыл бұрын
Myth is my favorite!
@Kondi2100
5 жыл бұрын
Good list, but defo missing Shadows of Brimstone and the D&D Boardgames - particularly Tomb of Annihilation: simple rules but engaging for all ages.
@Khaador
5 жыл бұрын
Brimstone, Myth, Sword & Sorcery, Kingdom death? wow, tom is missing the best in this genre
@mrtricky1313
5 жыл бұрын
Would Wander: The Cult of Barnacle Bay get a look in if you played it more? I just got my KS edition.
@pauls3585
4 жыл бұрын
Shadows of Brimstone and Hellboy for me.
@kruzhalovv
5 жыл бұрын
Such a pity that Tom don't enjoy the most elegant and puzzly of dungeon crawles - Claustrophobia. And where are Escape and Magic Maze?)))
@marksahlgreen9584
5 жыл бұрын
Mage Knight for sure, it's not a pure dungeon crawl, in the sense that you're crawling a landscape, but it could have been and it would feel right at home. I think it qualifies as much as some of the others on the list, like Mansions of Madness for example... not a dungeon crawl in it's truest sense, but an awesome game none the less!
@ajramone4459
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought about that too. There are even dungeons in Mage Knight and you crawl INTO them, kill the Monsters, and get out. Thus you dont crawl IN the dungeon. But I would still include it. You explore, kill, loot and level.
@SanjuroSan
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Tom sees these and or responds but I am curious whether or not he would consider 7th continent a dungeon crawl. If so, where did it make his list?
@thedicetower
5 жыл бұрын
No, I don't consider it a dungeon crawl.
@diegoadriandlc5273
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom you should play Slay the Spire is a great dungeon crawl on PC.
@rogerrigby7943
5 жыл бұрын
Nice list, Tom. Descent 2 rox
@jedisith3864
5 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing Dungeon Degenerates this week. Anyone know if dice tower reviewed it?
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