10: Time's Up! Title Recall / Dr. Eureka / Onitama 09: Dominion / Dixit / Raptor 08: Five Tribes / For Sale / King Tokyo 07: Blood Rage / For Sale / Bang: The Dice Game 06: Onitama / Small World / Dominion 05: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong (picked twice) / Pandemic Legacy 04: Ticket to Ride / Codenames / Carcassonne 03: Splendor / King of Tokyo / Stone Age 02: Ticket to Ride / 7 Wonders / Sheriff of Nottingham 01: Pandemic / Sushi Go Party! / Shadows Over Camelot
@laurenaxtonbrereton6954
6 жыл бұрын
Chris Mullins thanks for listing this!
@amundbisgaard7295
6 жыл бұрын
Well done. A slight correction: Shadows OVER Camelot.
@Spacemonkeymojo
6 жыл бұрын
You're awesome, thanks!
@Sandcaster2009
6 жыл бұрын
My favourites are Gloomhaven, Descent, Castle Ravenloft, Azul, Lords of Waterdeep, Star Wars: Rebellion, Mansion of Madness, Twilight Imperium (I like fantasy games)
@S4r0m
6 жыл бұрын
Chris Mullins thank you! I like theese guys, but i find it kinda boring to watch them for an entire hour.
@MrLivebynight
3 жыл бұрын
"Everyone who's running for office should be forced to play these" - talking about Pandemic, in 2016. Just 2020 things.
@johnroney32
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like playing pandemic didn't help...
@Digger-Nick
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnroney32 Pandemic is a shit game. I don't get why so many people like it
@psykikninja
3 жыл бұрын
@@Digger-Nick ur acting like a piece of poo right now.....
@erevisentreri6161
2 жыл бұрын
Watching this post/during Covid times and that convo between Zee and Tom about politicians needing to play co-op games when they're talking about Pandemic feels real prophetic
@davidtroutman9906
5 жыл бұрын
39:50 Splendor does well and everyone should own it because: 1) It's quick to setup and to teardown; 2) Its gameplay is easy to teach; 3) Its playtime is fairly fast; 4) And it has fantastic component quality.
@TheHappiestMeal
Жыл бұрын
But I don’t like splendor…
@tarfinand9896
7 жыл бұрын
How about a video "10 games we agree on"? All of you try to come up with a list of 10 games that you believe all of you would agree. Bonus points for entries having same position on the lists;). This may be either very short and boring video, or quite the opposite. I would like to see how well you think you know each other:).
@dahger7
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@rocketeye8683
7 жыл бұрын
Owning Pandemic, Splendor, Dominion, 7 Wonders, Stone Age, Ticket to Ride, Small World, CATAN, Blood Rage, and ECLIPSE for the win!
@robbertsroost4745
7 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a Top 10 games on a budget? Like games under $25 - Might be an interesting topic...
@barath4545
4 жыл бұрын
(1-10) Playing cards.
@christopherlundgren3205
3 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS IDEA
@gavasiarobinssson5108
3 жыл бұрын
The poor people's game. Coming to you soon......
@IvVu23
7 жыл бұрын
Giving the Blood Rage discussion that we saw I think that now we need a Top 10 next step games
@madifinley7018
7 жыл бұрын
I own Splendor and I love it. I have taught it to a lot of people and it has been a hit every time.
@lvgeeco7121
5 жыл бұрын
Eric Finley same here we love it
@aditmaryadi6678
4 жыл бұрын
I also love it eventhough I rarely win 😢
@jtucker87
7 жыл бұрын
Hmm my Amazon shopping cart has $421 worth of games in it now...
@Sheriff_K
6 жыл бұрын
Still cheaper than my TCGPlayer cart.. >_< (Why did I not find board games sooner? 'xD)
@bobbyduenckel4762
5 жыл бұрын
Better lose one $
@buffalobear160
5 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyduenckel4762 hahhahhaah Noice, maaaaaaaan! Hitler's Birthday.
@Michael.Virtus
5 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyduenckel4762 blaze it!
@Just_an_average_weeb
3 жыл бұрын
So I'm guessing you have the bloodrage Kickstarter edition on your cart?
@Pengi_SMILES
7 жыл бұрын
Usually Tom or even Sam's lists are more my wheelhouse but Zee Smashed it for me. I like his take on the topic rather than merely gateway games, which is a list on its own for me.
@adrianojedaf
4 жыл бұрын
lets take a second to thank these guys for doing what they do! they bring to people who like board games so much content and joy... Thanks!
@TheCagedRaven
4 жыл бұрын
I raised my children on board games. Now I've been introducing various games to my grand children and the children I work with. The favourites so far are Sushi Go, Outfoxed, Mancala and Cockroach Poker. Some of the games you three mentioned are already on my wish list; I'll be checking some others out. Thanks for this video.
@mikesouthwell3657
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I do: watch, pause, add to cart, resume, and repeat.
@kiwisoup
7 жыл бұрын
Everybody is raging over this being more geared towards gateway games, but do hardcore gamers really need a list of essential games? Let's be real here...you already know your essential games and all you would do is argue about how wrong this list is...
@marceldouwstra5847
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed. If you're already "into the hobby" then you're informed enough to know what you like and what you might like.
@adamchristensen2648
7 жыл бұрын
kiwisoup Your comment nailed it. I watch this channel for run downs on games coming out and the industry, etc. Not to figure out what games I should get for my collection. I do recommend this channel to people interested in taking up the hobby all the time though, so the more "accessible" games they pitch, the better, IMO.
@DrMaquisapa
7 жыл бұрын
kiwisoup yes indeed. My family is getting into games, and we've started a good game collection. But I watched this video to help me find new, different games for our collection. With games coming in at $30 to $50 each, I appreciate learning about games that make top ten lists.
@drdoofenshmirtz4946
6 жыл бұрын
kiwisoup God sent his one and only Son, Jesus Christ, down into the world to save you from your sins. Jesus died on the cross paying your punishment so that if you believe you can go to heaven. Three days later he overcame death and was raised to life and went back to heaven. Serve and Love Jesus everyday! God Bless Share
@hardbathsalts3143
6 жыл бұрын
Live4Jesus ha! Sure he did.
@TheBrothergreen
7 жыл бұрын
I define "games that everyone should own" as 1) Classic (eg not here today, gone tomorrow party games like dixit or apples to apples that fall out of favor once you've played it in a few groups) 2) Genre defining 3) CHEAP-ish (so not $90, sorry agricola) 4) Able to be played in almost any group 5) Fast (less than 2hrs) 6) Good theming/ Identity 7) FUN! There are probably some other ques that I would look for that I'm not thinking of. No particular order: 1. Galaxy Trucker 2. Splendor (I'm with tom on this one, reminds me of playing cards at lunch with friends.) 3. Above and below 4. 7 wonders 5. Viticulture (or last will?) 6. Ticket to ride 7. Sherriff of Nottingham 8. King of Tokyo 9. Sentinels of the Multiverse (I understand the arguments for dominion, but I feel like there are several card drafting games that beat dominion at every turn. Sentinals is one relevant example. I would even put millennium blades here...) 10. Pandemic (or Battlestar Galactica?)
@markdryden8240
7 жыл бұрын
100% agree with Tom on Splendour, awesome but simple game and glad to see it on the list.
@2DNoodles
5 жыл бұрын
This video needs a 2018/19 update :)
@angeloptz1475
4 жыл бұрын
absolutely!
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@charleneferguson9250
4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! .....Orrr I'm gonna do a basic video that describes 5 or maybe 10 basic board game's objectives
@XtianApi
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have an adult and two kids. Looking for some new ones
@aofdoom5030
4 жыл бұрын
Now 2020
@gurtana
7 жыл бұрын
I agree with Zee on Blood Rage - and I've not played it yet. What I am trying to say is the list is called "essential games", and technically any game you really enjoy and seems to exemplify core mechanics or experiences should be included on this list. If know what floats your boat, wholeheartedly recommend that instead of "lite" versions. Just like Sam usually says (in relation to skipping micro games or super fast games), go for the main course and enjoy that meal! EDIT: For me, I would pick Cosmic Encounters as my #1. For "gamers", it's an essential experience because it teaches unique player powers and how that breaks or interferes with the basic core rules. I understand that Sci-fi it's everyone's cup of tea, and with newer gamers they struggled to get their head around their Alien's unique power - but as an experience in boardgaming, I consider it essential because of that "rulebreakers" gameplay and the social interaction that ensues.
@Stephen-Fox
7 жыл бұрын
I think Zee's list is the closest to what I'm be looking for from this sort of list now - 10 games making up a well rounded collection for people who are into the hobby, while Tom and Sam's list is for where I was 10 years ago - 10 games that would make up a well rounded collection for people who are just getting into the hobby and haven't already gone through their gateway and next step phases while guided by people who already have a collection. So Zee's list is a good 'if you're making a communal collection for gamers, start with these games' while Sam and Tom's is more 'start by considering these games if you're just getting into the hobby and are starting on your collection for yourself.' - And I think both of those are perfectly valid things to consider as 'essential games'. I'm also not sure consumable games have a place on either list - I like them, myself, but they wouldn't be games I'd be starting a collection with in any circumstance, making Pandemic Legacy the only game I actively disagree with on the three of your lists (And that might apply to campaign games as well as Legacy games), even if some of the others aren't entirely to my tastes - Perfectly good examples of categories that should be considered for any personal collection of 10, or which a communal collection of 10 should consider starting with.
@eckfunk5011
7 жыл бұрын
In case you ever redo that kind of list: I would prefer if you would first agree on 10 categories and then everybody has one game he proposes.
@eugenb.8448
7 жыл бұрын
To my mind "essential games" are those that you'll happily play both with someone new and someone who's been in the hobby for a while. And, of course, whoever picks 10 will end up with their own personal biases showing, me included. I dislike party games. No idea why, they just do nothing for me. Same with some well loved games, like Blood Rage which I cannot stand. All that said, my list of Top 10 Essential Games would probably consist of: 1. Pandemic (or Pandemic Legacy) 2. Lords of Vegas 3. Shadows Over Camelot 4. Coup 5. Lords of Xidit 6. Small World 7. Trains 8. Biblios 9. Black Fleet 10. Imhotep It shows a nice variety covering cooperative to dice based/placement games, from quick games to those that take longer, from pick-up-and-deliver to deck building and programming. And those games appeal to both gaming groups I'm a part of which says something about the appeal since one loves in-your-face competition while the other is much less so inclined. And I believe my entire list remains in print no less :-).
@tigertemprr7276
7 жыл бұрын
Great update. The original video is what got me back into the hobby. Thanks for continuing to put out great content ever since, Dice Tower!
@AlexNguyen
7 жыл бұрын
The length of these videos is spot on. I throw them onto a Chromecast wherever I am, like washing the dishes or doing the taxes.
@YuGiOhDuelChannel
7 жыл бұрын
SmallWorld changed my life man! Game got me hooked on boardgames, couldn't sleep the first time I played it haha
@unlimitedrabbit
2 жыл бұрын
I felt that way about Hive.
@defaultdefault9090
7 жыл бұрын
really Nice that you do this list again, i watched the previous version 4 times or something haha
@joeciccio9743
7 жыл бұрын
Gijs Van Hemelryck
@joaocamilo8106
7 жыл бұрын
Yup. I know that feeling!
@NightSpook
7 жыл бұрын
4 times a day! :')
@mathulus
7 жыл бұрын
Zee is so right. If you don't introduce a game with meat to some people(like people who like heavy thinky strategy games), they would not be interested in board games.
@luiscarlosqg
7 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the haters. this is video I was looking for. I am getting in the hobby and wanted to know what games I should buy first.
@Platinumstyx
7 жыл бұрын
luiscarlosqg same
@TheThunder48
5 жыл бұрын
Same here! Board games are future of gaming
@libertyprime9307
4 жыл бұрын
Give us a 3 year update. What are you playing now?
@jeangodecoster
4 жыл бұрын
the one grudge I hold against Pandemic is that while it's a cooperative game, there's often going to be one player who takes the lead on what others have to do
@dapamico1
7 жыл бұрын
If you're going to have one drafting game, I would go for Medieval Academy. It's so much easier for people to understand what they should do during the game when they can see those progress tracks. I never feel like I can overcome luck when I play Sushi Go or 7 Wonders.
@kustomkure
7 жыл бұрын
7 Wonders is still the go-to game out of the three. I still own all three of them and will own them until the end of time. Huge fan of MA. But only one is truly essential.
@TheHouseofPanda
7 жыл бұрын
What if you guys did a list of essentials where you took different categories, ie. Worker Placement, Card Drafting, etc., and you each named three games within that category, in order of: 3.) Gateway/Entry, 2.) Medium Weight, 1.) Experienced Gamer/Heavy? That would be a really fun list to make, and it could give a range of viewers different starting points. Great work guys, thanks for all the lists.
@CDCyD
3 жыл бұрын
I liked that you explained what essential means. And that you imply that each person can have their own meaning for the same Word.
@sad0happy
7 жыл бұрын
Mine: 10. Lords Of Waterdeep 9. The Resistance 8. Stone Age 7. Smallworld 6. Dead Of Winter 5. Pandemic 4. Ticket To Ride 3. 7 Wonders 2. Carcassonne 1. King Of Tokyo :)
@89taklung
5 жыл бұрын
Niece list, some games I don't kniow yet (well only in the hind spots, never heard of Lords of waterdeep, is it really good?) My top ten for games every gamer should own would probably be: 10. 7 Wonders 9. Ciub (colourful and fun dice game ^^) 8. Villa Paletti/ Menara (who doesn't like a good balancing game?) 7. dixit 6. Pandemic 5. King of Tokyo 4. Carcasonne (lokl we don't own it XD my mum does though and I only play it with her so... it's Ok) 3. Caverna (great Workerplacement) 2. Photosynthesis 1. Terra Mystica/ Gaia Project
@jakubtustanowski4270
5 жыл бұрын
@@89taklung If you are a fan of Caverna and TM, you probably won't like LoW that much. It's great as "next step" game, nice worker placement mechanics but nothing really groundbreaking. Also, the theme is kinda there, but after 10 minutes you will simply trade "white and orange cubes" instead of "clerics and warriors". The insert is gorgeus, though.
@danhoenn
5 жыл бұрын
Great picks!! But sad to see that nobody picked Catan for their list :/ I think it's really a must-have game and it's also fairly easy to get into! And, maybe I'm biased by Will Wheaton's Tabletop, but I do think Betrayal at House on the Hill would be a good addition to this list!
@LeeONardo
7 жыл бұрын
I would put Resistance as one of my choices, mainly as I took it round to a house party and it worked perfectly. A mix of players that have played it before, some have a slight gaming experience and some have never really played anything before. They all loved it. To me it has everything going for it - - portable - easy to learn in 5 mins, one round not even a full game needed to do so. - easy set up - engages the whole group - can be played multiple times as everyone wants to be a spy at least once. - has expansions both available and in the box immediately to tailor it more to tastes yet having a simple core game that anyone can play. The comment about artificial interaction is a little odd, I mean as soon as the first player chooses someone for a mission there's always one player that will jump saying either NOT to choose them or to choose himself instead and that just brings in everyone else. After the first rounds over and the mission is won/lost I've noticed everyone likes to have a say then. I can't fault it, just works every time for me. I would also so far place codenames here too for myself, even though its already on the list.
@macadysmith1722
7 жыл бұрын
I really think that if you get Ticket to Ride you should get Takenoko. It basically works the same way but has more options and a different theme. When you get tired of Takenoko you play Ticket to Ride and when you get bored of Ticket to Ride you play Takenoko. Awesome game!
@themaster408
7 жыл бұрын
I understand people like King of Tokyo. I've played it numerous times and never enjoyed it...ever. King of New York I did enjoy. And I like Zombie Dice, I'd play that or nearly any dice game of KoT. So glad Deception in Hon Kong is on the list. That game goes over so well!
@g8kpr3000
7 жыл бұрын
Played it only once, and it totally fell flat. Not just for me, but for others at the table as well. It just seemed dull and random, and the rules came across as very basic. It's almost pure fluff. I would be open to try it again, but I didn't really think much of it.
@nemysboy85
7 жыл бұрын
Tom - TOP 10 HOTNESS GAMES FOR NEW GAMERS Sam - TOP 10 GATEWAY GAMES Zee - TOP 10 ESSENTIAL GAMES EVERYONE SHOULD OWN! Thank you Zee for continuing to be the voice of the people! For some of us we are only going to have 20-40 games so we want to have a wide range of games that appeal to many folks whether they are non gamers, new gamers, or full on hobby-gamers! I have For Sale, Lost Cities, Sushi-Go, and Wits and Wagers for non gamers; 7 Wonders, Carcassonne, Dominion, San Juan and Jamaica for new gamers; and Viticulture, Cry Havoc, Memior 44 and Power Grid for hobby gamers. Are you going to make a "Top 10 Essential Games for Your Game Collection" so we can hear what Tom and Sam actually think are essential?
@EclecticCamel
7 жыл бұрын
andrew nemy For a small collection, sounds like you have some solid choices. Cheers.
@nemysboy85
7 жыл бұрын
I do a lot of research before I buy anything since I can't keep many games (space issue/ tight budget). Deception Murder in Hong Kong and Robinson Crusoe 2nd edition are showing up next month.
@trdi
7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it was that bad, I think all lists were ok. The only real miss on the lists was Pandemic Legacy and both Zee and Sam clearly explaned why it's a miss - you don't have to own it if someone from your group owns it and it's just crazy to say it should be owned before Pandemic.
@victoriadaniellemedele7622
7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting Pandemic Legacy because I thought you could play it as regular pandemic before and afterwards. Is this true?
@kathryndersch
7 жыл бұрын
Victoria Danielle Medele Yes you can but ideally you want to play it as regular pandemic at least a dozen times before getting into legacy. Also Pandemic legacy is only one direction to go after regular Pandemic. Also afterwards it won't be the same as before so you might want to play it (better board) or not (all the markings from the campaign are distracting).
@donmiller2908
4 жыл бұрын
The only board game I've ever studied to become better at was "Diplomacy" by Avalon Hill. I think it's been bought out by Hasbro, not sure. Fantastic game. And there is a large population of people playing the game online right now. I used to host games of Diplomacy at my house but it became increasingly difficult to find eight people who enjoyed thinking. So I gave that up and now play exclusively online. I no longer play board games because single player PC games are easier to get a game going and you don't have to deal with people, who basically suck.
@DarknessProphet
8 ай бұрын
My ten plus one recommendations would be: Deck building with 2-3 players: Dale of Merchants Abstract strategy for two: Onitama Abstract strategy for two or four: Element: Silver Tableau building for 2-3 players: Codex Naturalis Negotiation with 4-7 players: Zoo Vadis Tug of war between two players: Air, Land, & Sea (or Spies, Lies, & Supplies) Social deduction for 6-8 players: The Resistance (or The Resistance: Avalon) Bluffing with 5-10 players: Mascarade Euro arena shooter for 4-5 players: Adrenaline Cooperative game with 2-4 players: Pandemic Bonus solo game: Onirim
@joshuaschulz3897
7 жыл бұрын
Splendor is a great game. How dare you Sam and Zee. I have pulled this out and been successful with it every time
@buffalobear160
5 жыл бұрын
Is splendor what you call you wee wee?
@timkeene8378
7 жыл бұрын
Hey you guys should do a top ten essentials for true Gamers. Stick to the same game categories but give games that you think people well into the hobby should have and play with people already into games
@Steve-L
7 жыл бұрын
I would look at their top 100 games and choose the highest in that list for these categories. The work is done, just have to peek.
@JonoNZBoardGamer
3 жыл бұрын
I originally watched this video when it came out after being in the hobby for a year or two. I already had some of these games, but I decided to see how many of these I now own 4.5 years later (since the Algorithm recommended the video again!). Out of the 25 unique games on the list, I have played 17 of them (the main ones missing are Stone Age, For Sale and Shadows over camelot). Of those 17 I own 11 of them physically (or a later version of the game) and 2 of them digitally (blood rage and onitama). That is quite incredible to me. The dice tower has had a lot of influence on the games I have bought over the years, and I still own and love all of the games on this list (that I have bought). Great list that definitely still holds up today!
@PeakYourInterest
7 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I feel like 10 essential games to have in my collection should include a couple gateway games and mostly a step or two beyond gateway. So, I would agree with Zee's Blood Rage pick. And I feel the other lists were mostly just top 10 gateway games. Just my thoughts, thanks for all the time and energy put into the videos!
@ikesteroma
7 жыл бұрын
Here's my ten essential list: 10. Ticket to Ride (family/gateway) 9. Avalon (social deduction) 8. King of Tokyo (family/dice rolling) 7. 7 Wonders (drafting) 6. Dominion (deck building) 5. Splendor (my wife will play this game and is therefore _"essential"_) 4. Codenames (brainy word game) 3. Puerto Rico (Euro/Worker Placement) 2. Exodus Proxima Centari (thematic war strategy) 1. Settlers of Catan (resource management and trade)
@PeIon316
7 жыл бұрын
If this is a NEW TO THE HOBBY essentials list, you should make a hardcore essentials list too... for the people who actually follow your lists... haha I was just kidding with the ending! xD But you should...
@MussoGames
7 жыл бұрын
When I first started getting into modern games, the first one I played was Descent and it remains my favorite game. So I agree with Zee, some people like me and my friends (who actually did play risk a lot) weren't scared to jump into complexity. We still play descent (second edition now) every year and it's always a blast. So good
@Poiuytrew.Q
Жыл бұрын
We need an updated list! Party/co-op - just one Co-op-pandemic north america Tactical - unmatched Ingen vs raptors Auction - for sale Dexterity - animal upon animal Drafting - sushi go Engine - splendor Roll and write/dice placement - Rolling Realms Set collection/route building - TTR London Tile laying - cascadia
@lasttruegypsy
7 жыл бұрын
Just played Raptor for the first time last night and loved it! Thanks for the suggestion.
@ramonosuke
6 жыл бұрын
I think I'd rather teach Blood Rage as an intro area control game over Small World. Then Cyclades/Nexus Ops/Kemet for the next step game. I think Sam and Tom over-rate Small World when it's okay at best. MY Essentials would be Deck builder: Dominion or Xenoshyft/Aeon's End Worker Placement: Lords of Waterdeep or Champions of Midgard Pure Co-op: Pandemic/ Mysterium / Ghost Stories Area Control: Blood Rage or Nexus Ops Social Deduction/Party game: Deception / The Resistance/ Balderdash / Dixit / Celestia / Werewords / Time's Up Casual two Player: Battle Line / Lost Cities / Santorini Strategic Two Player: Claustrophobia / Memoir '44 / Race for the Galaxy / 7 Wonders: Duel Family/Light Strategy etc: 7 Wonders / Ticket To Ride / Takenoko / Carcassonne / Stockpile / Splendor
@matticussilverman6179
6 жыл бұрын
I'm now starting to realise why everyone loves Tom Vasel.
@TheDeathOfLucifer
4 жыл бұрын
Cause his bad opinions killed his baby?
@bad1788
7 жыл бұрын
Pandemic legacy is basically an amazing 1 time legacy experience and then you have a regular version of pandemic that has been battle scared from your play through. The character cards even have little spots you can tear away the legacy play and use them as normal characters. So folks just starting out can play legacy as vanilla pandemic a few times to get a feel for the game and then when they feel up to they can THEN dive into the legacy part. Playing a legacy game is just such a different experience that I think it is justified being on a list for everyone should own (whether that be own individually of split the cost of with one's group or through some kinda shared game library).
@leesabo8784
7 жыл бұрын
I know the guys have different approaches to making these lists, but I have to side with Zee over Sam regarding Blood Rage, especially as it concerns how and why many people watch Dice Tower videos. I found the Dice Tower four years ago from the previous Top 10 Essential Games list. I've always loved board games but only had one or two good ones, so I thought of "essential games" as the core of a solid game collection, not just ones you would recommend to people new to the hobby. Most people don't have the time, money, or space for a dozen big Eurogames or a dozen splashy Ameritrash games with miniatures, and, because so many are good, it's hard to decide which ones to commit to. Zee's point that you can satisfy a wide variety of people with Blood Rage (and Five Tribes, and a lot of his other picks) is exactly why it's "essential": you get more than your money's worth because it can take the place of five or six other games if you can't or don't want to maintain a large collection.
@Silentwolf9
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I viewed an 'essential list'. not necessarily whats good for new comers to board gaming hobby, but as essential must haves because its 1 outweighs 3-4 others of similarity and game play reach.
@gekkenhuisje
7 жыл бұрын
What, no Settlers of Catan? "This is a shameful display!" -Rome 2 Total War
@CheriF
7 жыл бұрын
I've been surprised a few times by how much every single person I've played Splendor with has loved it.
@ostrowulf
7 жыл бұрын
I have never played Blood Rage, but the argument for it I can understand (the part about some people want a little more going on even for an intro). I got my wife into playing board games with Betrayal on the House on the Hill. That is actually an intro game we have used for a few people, as it has a bunch of stuff going on to keep in engaging. She enjoys games like Settlers of Catan Seafarers sometimes, but it doesn't hook her and her friends interest the same.
@cthulwho8197
7 жыл бұрын
I do like Sam's "I know this wasn't Top 10 Essential Games, but that's what I did anyway"
@NomadHokie
7 жыл бұрын
I'm recently getting into the hobby, and Blood Rage is my favorite game at the moment. It was relatively easy to learn, and there are so many levels of strategy. I played with 2 others who are also not big board gamers and it is also their favorite game I own. (Others being things like Dominion, Agricola, Bang!, Pandemic, etc) Could not agree more with Zee on that one.
@Andrew_NJ
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with Zee on this one, get anyone who plays video games and they will have no problem understanding Blood Rage.
@jcb3393
7 жыл бұрын
I own these games... From Tom's list: - Pandemic Legacy - Dominion (and I have regular Sushi Go, not "Party", so I guess a half a point there.) From Sam's list: - 7 Wonders - Ticket to Ride - Small World - BANG! The Dice Game (and I've played "Celebrities/Famous People" - the public domain version of "Time's Up!" - multiple times, so 1/2 a point there as well.) From Zee's list: - Pandemic - Ticket to Ride - Carcassonne - Dominion - Dixit So, Zee wins (by half a point!) with 5 out of 10, over Sam's 4.5 pts and Tom's 2.5 pts. "Voice of the People", indeed. :-)
@philippniemann8842
7 жыл бұрын
I have to say: I really enjoy the energy between you guys :) I wish everybody could respect everybodyelse this way
@danielengel4593
7 жыл бұрын
Love these 10 Top lists with you three gyus, always a pleasure.
@ashleepradella4912
7 жыл бұрын
Great list! I'd agree with all those games except maybe blood rage, which I LOVE, but I think it doesn't appeal to everyone, I think Small world has wider appeal.
@GameWeekendChalbie
5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Zee about Blood Rage that it is so accessible. Even people that aren’t confrontational can die a lot and win. That’s mind-blowing for an area control battle game. I just played it for the first time and I can see why Sam loves it so much.
@hermanpesina6328
7 жыл бұрын
splendor alone has helped me introduce advance games to my why entire family and several friends.
@mbrochh82
4 жыл бұрын
wow. watching this in 2019 and I'd say this is still a super solid list. I'd buy and play all games on this list.
@Stroggoii
7 жыл бұрын
For Sale! is Monopoly if Monopoly was a game instead of a social torture experiment.
@MrPigpom
4 жыл бұрын
Funniest comment!
@madsam7582
3 жыл бұрын
Actually it was made as a social commentary game. Those who have, get more. Those who don't have loose more.
@aweso
7 жыл бұрын
I think the lists mostly make sense as lists of ten games that are all fairly new player friendly and cover a broad range of flavors. The problem a lot of people in the comments seem to be having (and one that you guys mostly addressed in the video) is that that isn't necessarily the same thing as the title. But also, I don't think there are ten games that every gamer should own, because there's such a huge variety of taste. Just for fun I'll mention that I personally own three of the games mentioned, 7 Wonders, Splendor, and 5 Tribes, and I think they all make good sense on this list (as do a lot of the others you mentioned that I don't happen to own for one reason or another). As always, an entertaining top 10, thanks.
@joerobertson7709
4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting to hear people discuss the games. Most videos like this just zip through the names. However I would really, really like to see more video samples of the game so I know what you're talking about instead of just looking at you guys chilling at the table for an hour! Thanks again.
@bushibayushi
7 жыл бұрын
This is how I would do this list, tell me what you think: 1. epic game for bigger groups (Game of Thrones / Chaos in the Old World / Blood Rage / Cyclades) 2. party game or dexterity game (Codenames / Jungle Speed) 3. quick game for 5+ players (7 Wonders) 4. replayable, expandable 2p game (Dominion / Neuroshima Hex! / Summoner Wars) 5. good mid-weight euro (Castles of Burgundy / Puerto Rico / Five Tribes) 6. good mid-to-heavy weight euro (Troyes / Caylus / Terraforming Mars / Tzolk'in) 7. long, meaty, heavy civ-building game (Through The Ages: A New Story of Civilization) 8. cooperative game (Robinson Crusoe / Pandemic) 9. easy to learn gateway game (Stone Age / Quadropolis / Potion Explosion) 10.good ameritrash game for theme lovers (Star Wars: Imperial Assault)
@AhJong0
7 жыл бұрын
bushibayushi while I don't think this replaces this list, I think it would be a good top 10 in its own right. "Expanding your collection " list maybe?
@JapanischErfahren
7 жыл бұрын
Seems like a boring copy&paste from BGG tbh.
@bushibayushi
7 жыл бұрын
What's boring about this list? These are just "safe", tried and tested games. No need to be experimental here.
@Gdude1231
7 жыл бұрын
pradafang well ameritrash is more than theme. it's also defined as having a shitload of components and pieces (usually with a large board). Imperial Assault fits that bill to a T
@RockCh4lk
7 жыл бұрын
Good lists, and entertaining as always! This seems like top 10 gateway games... I want a list that has top 10 essential games that are not gateway games.
@McNoat
7 жыл бұрын
Games that would go on such a list are nearly by definitions games that have a wide appeal and that (very often) means gateway games.
@mechashadow
7 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could label them as Must own games. That gives me a vibe for fun, unique possibly rich in depth gameplay experiences..
@RockCh4lk
7 жыл бұрын
I think there are games that have wide appeal but are not gateways. It is probably just me because I get bored easily with games that require little strategy such as for sale. I was really surprised that Zee put Blood Rage on his list. I have wanted that game for a while now, I should just go pick it up.
@McNoat
7 жыл бұрын
If they are not gateway games that by "wide appeal" (I think) you have to mean gamers. So I guess you are thinking of something like Agricola, Power Grid, Descent, etc.
@mechashadow
7 жыл бұрын
+Moritz Schubert Top 10 Essential Games for Gamers then.
@samebatchannel4702
7 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate the top 10, and I like this idea is updating some great topics ones like this! Plus MeepleCon shirt is a great touch. Glad you guys will be coming back this year!
@kustomkure
7 жыл бұрын
Zee's list is glorious.
@ddmalarkey
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Here's to another million+ views!! :)
@WylliamJudd
7 жыл бұрын
Blood Rage is a fine gateway game! It's really not that complex.
@mikejonesnoreally
7 жыл бұрын
Thank You! No, I don't own Blood Rage but I've watched many reviews and even copies of it being painted while the artist discussed it and I've always wanted to play it and I agree with Zee. I know if I were entering the hobby I wouldn't want it just assumed that I was allergic to depth. I would either feel A. Underestimated or B. That board gamers were a rather simple lot, which isn't true, you guys have a *lot* of depth and complexity, that's why I'm so confused that many of you don't want that reflected by your interests.
@hardbathsalts3143
6 жыл бұрын
mikejonesnoreally hey! Did you ever get blood rage?
@fowlerchristoph3282
3 жыл бұрын
As someone a month into the hobby I really appreciate the blood rage recommendation because I’m a hard video gamer and I like brawling, so that sounded the most appealing out of those earlier games and I know plan to get it, so thank you
@DuelistVash
7 жыл бұрын
I own very few of these games. But I would say that Camel Up is an essential game. Everytime someone wants to play it at my boardgame group I know I'll say yes. Easy to teach, great for families, fun theme and quick to play. The expansion extends the player count without extending the game time. Probably my number one pick.
@Osborne4Life
7 жыл бұрын
What the hell? Sam didn't put Twilight Imperium 3 on a list? What sorcery is this?
@LuisMontes
7 жыл бұрын
sam made of list a essential games for other people to play,, not a list of essential games that are good.
@wroot_lt
7 жыл бұрын
Someone read to seriously into that :D yet, for Zee it's so easy to stick Pandemic into nearly every list :D
@HeadCannonPrime
7 жыл бұрын
When you have a nearly perfect, super tight, and almost always fun game, why not put it in every list.
@wroot_lt
7 жыл бұрын
Don't know about StarryAqua, but i was only joking. Have no problems with that ;)
@KingOfShadeEmpire
7 жыл бұрын
That's why i'm wondering why TI3 wasn't there
@jollyroger1009
6 жыл бұрын
After reading through a few of the comments to this video, I've invented a new category of person: "Board Game Snob" 😊
@rafaeluryayev7174
5 ай бұрын
I miss the old-school Dice Tower with Sam and the setup with the massive game shelves in the background.
@JustinMorganYXX
7 жыл бұрын
Every game I've played of Blood Rage, the first round is the learning curve and the second and third are picked up with no issue (with relatively new gamers). And they all have loved it for the reasons Zee pointed to.
@Steve-L
7 жыл бұрын
But it is expensive. New gamers probably shouldn't buy expensive games. They should be committed gamers 1st.
@famousamos
5 жыл бұрын
My birthday wish list :)
@hucz
3 жыл бұрын
ok
@SicklyNickable
7 жыл бұрын
Man I love your channel guys, but a lot more people would like it if you just find a way to shorten up these videos. Some of your videos seem so interesting, but a lot of people can't devote up to an hour watching some of your content for one video. Love your stuff anyway, keep up the good work
@thedicetower
7 жыл бұрын
We figure if people can watch multiple feature length two hour movies, they can watch one of these. ;)
@SicklyNickable
7 жыл бұрын
You realize that those movies that people watch aren't on shoestring budgets like yours, right? Cut the rants, it'll make your videos better.
@Bad_Moon_Rising
7 жыл бұрын
Dearest Dice Tower , I really love your videos but can not watch them because they are all 3 minutes too long and I can't waste those precious 3 minutes so shorten your videos for me by 3 minutes each !! Just kidding :)
@connorlaux
7 жыл бұрын
True, but I agree with Nick. This video is geared towards a person just starting to dip their toe into board gaming (like me), and what we should get/have. I think a little tightening up on the lip flap as well as more cuts to the games and their features would make this more accessible to the casual viewer. This would be a phenomenal 20-30 minute piece if you could tighten it up, instead of a monstrous hour dedication to get a top 10. I love your channel, thank you.
@Bad_Moon_Rising
7 жыл бұрын
Its not just a top ten , its THREE top tens. And their witty banter is what makes them fun to watch. You guys must have super ADHD if you can't watch an hour long vid from these guys . WOW!
@victorgonzalez2927
7 жыл бұрын
1) Zombie Dice (Dice Game) 2) Stratego (Strategy Game) 3) Puerto Rico (Resource Management/Euro Game) 4) Cthulhu (Deck Building game) 5) Pandemic: Reign of Cthulhu or On the Brink (Co-Op Game) 5) Billionaire Banshee (Party Game) 6) Grass or Cthulhu Fluxx (Card Game) 7) Castles of Mad King Ludwig (Strategy/Building Game) 8) Ticket to Ride: Europe or New York 1901 (Family Game) 9) Magic The Gathering (Collectable Card Game) 10) Chess or Backgammon (Classic Game) These aren't in any particular order just games I think people would enjoy and should be in your collection. I also would add Rise of Tribes but it hasn't been released yet but looks amazing and really fun to play.
@adamg4912
3 жыл бұрын
Miss this trio sometimes. Looking back after all these years: -Monikers has better rules than Time's Up! -Raptor is fine...but if the category is two-player games, then 7 Wonders Duel or Targi are much better options. -Pandemic Legacy is absolutely not essential. That is the most "2016" choice on this list. I completely agree on: -Dominion -Dixit -For Sale -King of Tokyo -Blood Rage -Deception: Murder in Hong Kong -Ticket to Ride -Sheriff of Nottingham -Pandemic I would add Viticulture Essential Edition (no pun intended) as the "worker placement" option. A year after this video was released, Downforce came out (thought technically, it's a remake of a game from the 1980s) and I consider that to be the essential racing game.
@dmchuck2575
4 жыл бұрын
"Mama just wants to save her babies." - Sam quote of the day
@haakonts
7 жыл бұрын
I agree with Zee about Blood Rage. Have introduced this to no-games who loved it.
@Steve-L
7 жыл бұрын
But should new gamers buy an expensive game right away, when they aren't committed yet to their likes and dislikes or into the hobby?
@haakonts
7 жыл бұрын
Well, if you have absolutely no idea what you like, I'd try to play some games before I committed to any games. But we are talking *essential* games here, not gateway games. If you want a game you can play with everyone from hardcore gamers to beginners and have everyone enjoy it, I think Blood Rage is great in its category. Smallworld is fine, but not great.
@michaelguidry8759
7 жыл бұрын
My top 10 essentials: 1. Legendary (Encounters Alien is my personal preference) (great deck building system with a good variety of themes) 2. Dead of Winter Longest Night (favorite traitor game and very thematic) 3. Zombicide Black Plague (great one off dungeon crawl with leveling mechanic) 4. Mage Knight (great exploration game with deck building and it is my favorite solo game) 5. Pandemic (solid co-op game with character abilities and a theme most can get into) 6. Cosmic Encounters (great light hearted asymmetrical diplomacy game) 7. Castle Panic (great co-op family friendly game) 8. Scythe (beautiful area control/resource gathering game) 9. Strike (good press your luck family friendly filler game) 10. The Resistance (good cheap party deduction game)
@Keith1212
7 жыл бұрын
I think you could convince me to try any game with the amazing enthusiasm you all have for these games. I'm use to play MTG, but now 15 years later I'm getting back into board games. My wife and I wanted Mansions of madness, but since it is out of stock we bought Arkham Horror. Wow what a game. We played 2-3 each night hours over the span of 3 days and managed to seal 6 gates on our first play through. We are hooked I think. We picked up the card game Gloom and plan on getting some more board games. Looking at Carssonne and some others you have mentioned. Thanks!
@BeccaIan
7 жыл бұрын
I think this should be called the Top 10 Essential Gateway Games. Some are great gateway games but not essential if you already feel comfortable in gaming.
@Steve-L
7 жыл бұрын
This is a remake.
@mikejonesnoreally
7 жыл бұрын
I agree. My fault though via interpretation. I thought this this was going to be what they felt were *essential* games as in "If you could only own or store 10, *these* would be the ones not to miss." If I had followed this list when I decided to limit my games to 15, (unless something gets "fired", but it looks like Land of Zion and Abyss are going to force me to amend that.) I would have been sorely disappointed with the usefulness of games. Such as in my case I feel that MageKnight and Eldritch Horror (possibly Mansions of Madness as well now.) would be on that list as well as some form of a "chess" like game such as one of Zee's favorites, Neuroshima Hex 3.0. This list almost makes it sounds as if other gamers really don't have the capacity for complexity or depth and feels much more like a list meant to appeal to what they see as the "lowest common denominator." I had no idea they had such a bleak view of people's capacity, *particularly* those showing an interest in games. They made a great point about *where* many new gamers come from. Video games and RPGs that simply don't offer the range of agency that a board game can, and if you get somebody into this hobby who usually gets their kicks in the crucible or by just defining *practically anything* they can think of, then you'd best bring something a bit more challenging to the table than Sherrif of Nottingham or Carcassone!
@orbbb24
7 жыл бұрын
Do you even watch the video. They explained that these games all have a gateway feel and are for newer gamers.
@BeccaIan
7 жыл бұрын
lol, yea man, I love watching these guys. The first essentials video really did spark my interest in gaming. I understand why they named it what they did, but I was just giving my opinion on what the title should be to match the content of the video. Maybe they will do another video someday called "Top 10 Essential Games for Experienced Gamers." Sorry if my orginal comment seemed "alpha gamerish", just remember we are all gamers here, so have fun gaming! - Ian
@gekkenhuisje
7 жыл бұрын
+mikejonesnoreally "Video games and RPG's that simply don't offer the range of agency..." Have you ever played Europa Universalis IV?
@0nenati0nunderground
7 жыл бұрын
Good timing to release this video while the MvM meltdown is going on. At least something is working.
@McNoat
7 жыл бұрын
What does MvM stand for?
@Fuzzyfoot88
7 жыл бұрын
mechs vs minions on riot games website. site is crashing because the game went live to purchase 36 minutes ago
@jcb3393
7 жыл бұрын
LOL - amazing!
@buffalobear160
5 жыл бұрын
This thread is hilarious all this time later, now that we know the game is bad.
@Blondesax
7 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I'm sure I just missed this, but you finally have more than one mic to pick up everyone! Hooray!
@smoothcriminal28
7 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Essentials: 1. Targi: 2 player game 2. Stone Age : Worker Placement 3. Glen More: Tile Laying. 4. Archaelogy: The New Expedition: Fillers 5. The Resistance: Party Game. 6. Greed: Card Drafting. 7. Grand Austria Hotel: Dice Drafting. 8. Vanuatu: Most player interactive game I know. 9. Bruxelles 1893: Best Medium-Heavy Euro game.Worker placement, auction, character powers, set collection, etc. 10. Imhotep: Best gateway game out there atm.
@TheMrE
7 жыл бұрын
I don't get it: I like how Splendor looks! Colorful, nice art, and even the gameplay is engaging for those who are looking for a slightly more crunchy game.
@McBehrer
7 жыл бұрын
Dominion is the game that got me into the hobby. So +1 for that, definitely.
@simonmancini6038
6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Zee on Blood Rage. I have often thought it to new players and they loved it and have usually done well in their first game.
@kirinarutozumaki4750
3 жыл бұрын
Ludo is the best 4 player board I’ve played. It’s the one game where strategy can be beat luck but when luck wins it’s by a mile
@mrtompso
7 жыл бұрын
Why no settlers of Catan?
@melvinj.124
7 жыл бұрын
Charlie Simms it's soooo sad I love the games!
@gmoore6129
7 жыл бұрын
They don't like it that much
@JasonEllingsworth
6 жыл бұрын
because catan is as random as Monopoly. It isn't very good. You are at the mercy of the dice the whole game.
@Spudst3r
6 жыл бұрын
BS, you can trade your way to victory. That player interaction mechanic is what makes it such a classic over all these other autistic worker placement euro games.
@snugglyjeff214
6 жыл бұрын
kenektik trashing euro games using the word autism isn't going to win you any points here for intelligence, or likability. Euro games take skill. The more experienced player typically wins. Have fun doing what the dice tell you in your teenager game.
@kkirT
7 жыл бұрын
ESSENtial games! Because they are in Essen!
@mikejonesnoreally
7 жыл бұрын
If that were the case then wouldn't Sam have felt compelled to list a certain game about the German taxi service? I hear they may even release a riveting expansion at this Essen "Ring top bell."
@BlimpMcGee
7 жыл бұрын
*mind blown*
@Feroke
7 жыл бұрын
:^)
@TheWascal
5 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda new to gaming and this review ticks all my boxes! Great Recommendations and hopefully as you state, these recommendations will Point me in the right direction for future game purchases Also, you 3 guys offer excellent insights to help make my choices easier...and very funny. I look forward to more reviews Much appreciated!
@mrozzdude
6 жыл бұрын
10. Castles of Burgundy, nice simple competetive city building game where you can set the difficulty for your self, nice simple clean looking game. 9. Lords of Waterdeep - Simple worker placement game about manipulating the players into making the wrong calls whilst not trying to give away your goals. Very good versus worker placement. 8. Twilight imperiums 3 - Though you will more than likely play this 1-3 times, it's a massive game of trade, diplomacy and war. Warning: it does take a lot of setup and explaining and takes about 8 hours to play for your first time. 7. Resistance of Avalon - This is like werewolf for a small group and in my opinion plays better, a simple social deduction game without the elimination mechanic. Instead you must win 3 out of 5 rounds, You need to find out fast who is ruining your missions 6. Pandemic - A great co op game based on saving the world from a virus outbreak you must work together to cure and health the world. this DOES have an issue of the most experienced player will take the driving seat. but otherwise a very good game. 5. Munchkin (any set) - Great party game of back stabbing, Nothing else more to say about this. 4. Tales of Arabian nights - Story telling game where you must journey all over the province of old arabia and survive your encounters, you get to set your own end goal, with the amount of narrative in this game no 2 play throughs will be the same. You are competing to have the best adventure in Arabia 3. 7 Wonders - As explained din the video 2. Stone age as explained 1. Eldritch Horror - Much like Arkham but not as ridiculous, Great co op game about saving the world from HP Lovecraft's monsters and demi gods. It finds a nice balance of things going wrong and succeeding. with the rng mechanic of adventures, it stops the game from having a driver. Also I LOVE rolling dice and this is influenced a lot in the game and you can reduce the randomness with cards and leveling up your character. These are just my top 10 for this, where they are games you will come back to and if someone asks you to suggest a game you have a lot to choose from.
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