No Hard Once Per Turn: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@loganm986
Жыл бұрын
Purrely would like to know your location
@AnRuixuan
Жыл бұрын
This was my first thought. You could clear a whole lot of cards off the banlist by just putting a HOPT clause on them.
@fadeddragon123
Жыл бұрын
#1 way to get banned lol
@charlesbruch7489
Жыл бұрын
A lack of HOPT isn’t a problem if the effect isn’t impactful enough.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
Жыл бұрын
@@charlesbruch7489 But it's a really good way to get yourself into the ban list.
@siftheadsdude
Жыл бұрын
An honorary mention definitely should be “to sell new cards/products”
@williamdrum9899
Жыл бұрын
That's more the reason why cards DON'T get banned
@siftheadsdude
Жыл бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 that’s a separate video, if anything lol. It works both ways
@NNRedemption
Жыл бұрын
@@williamdrum9899dont forget the kozmo bannlist. They Destroyed all 5 Meta decks that kozmo ist playable
@takodachi1239
Жыл бұрын
ban and never get unban to sell new cards/products
@NNRedemption
Жыл бұрын
@@takodachi1239 which Card is never getting unbanned BC of new products lol. And cards which getting banned BC of new products ist exactly the Same Like hitting Meta decks BC the Player want a new Meta. Without the bannlist the Meta wohnt Change and WE would have a zoodiac meta
@billybobjoe1335
Жыл бұрын
I find it ironic that the reason Mirage of Nightmare was banned is the exact same way it was used in GX, i.e. destroying it to avoid its downside.
@Computer-STEM-NERD-903
Жыл бұрын
Totes… But tbf Protagonist Plot Armor BS is kinda why our favorite “Drop Out Boy” won duels thru digging for the right parts.. Da no ne
@ariavachier-lagravech.6910
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, mirage of nightmare is so versatile because discarding cards is something a lot of deck want to do so even not destroying it is also a viable option.
@brightpowder_cena
Жыл бұрын
Imagine Mirage of Nightmare in Tear
@sammyhain
Жыл бұрын
@@brightpowder_cenathat and card of safe return off the list would make it tear 1 even with only one of each name
@brightpowder_cena
Жыл бұрын
@samhain5990 there was a no banlist Tear list going around a while ago that didn't even use 1 Pot of Greed because Graceful/Mirage are so strong with Tear
@the_og_alpha
Жыл бұрын
"The most effective way to kill your opponent is to burn them to death" I mean, that is true even without overpowered effect damage cards.
@unaffectedbycardeffects9152
Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that shooting them would be a better strategy. As a strong contender for second best I'd put using poison.
@thangnghiem4229
Жыл бұрын
Instruction unclear. I'm now on the wanted list
@internetperson3436
10 ай бұрын
@@thangnghiem4229You are now on the FBIs forbidden list
@williamdrum9899
7 ай бұрын
That's true even without cards in general
@einzer5670
Жыл бұрын
This top 10 is so good for new players, because they will know what and why a certain mechanic is so strong. This can give new players some degree of knowledge of how the game works and probably even make them can learn the game by themself
@ryanjames397
Жыл бұрын
Or 30 year olds like me who are coming back to the game completely lost 😂
@naiko8412
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanjames397preach
@0mn0m15
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanjames397My dad feels like that lol, but I'm proud of him mastering Fusion, Link, and Xyz whenever I play with him on Master Duel or help him in Ranked. He plans to practice more with Synchro Summoning as he just got a Blackwing structure deck (and he accidentally discovered Pendulum summoning himself lol).
@henrycalde1991
9 ай бұрын
I prefer the GOAT format. The new format where the game is over after 1-3 turns? No thanks.
@SystemYTP
Жыл бұрын
Konami: Hand ripping cards are bad Also Konami: Say hello to Lovely Labrynth By the way, after the disappointment of yesterday's banlist, I would be curious what a banlist made by *you* would look like.
@Jyxero
Жыл бұрын
As Lab myself I hate Lovely for that, can be very unfair if opponent didn't draw the out (Aka any handtrap) Virus should be considered too, as not only puts a lingering floodgate on opponent, but gives hand info
@MistaOppritunity
Жыл бұрын
I haven't played yugioh in a long LOOOOOONG time, but Konami has a long history of consistently making bad decisions. It's like they've never played a card game in their life, let alone their own game.
@0mn0m15
Жыл бұрын
@@MistaOppritunityHonestly, I feel you. I just so happen to be a guy who plays decks I personally love, like Blue-Eyes and Speedroids. My dragons and toys like to frolic, so they bow to no one, not even the meta.
@sebarsht12
Жыл бұрын
As said Shapesnatch in Rata's Red-Eyes video, "Alright, I've figured out how to fix the game, first we ban all the Tuner monsters then....."
@thunderstruck560
Жыл бұрын
Konami card design steps: Step 1: make a card that is obviously broken Step 2: set it to the highest rarity Step 3: profit! Step 4: ban it Step 5: repeat!
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
Fiendsmith Engraver: "And I took that personally"
@Hurricane1990
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the true reason for the banlist: to sell more product lol.
@thegameplayer125
Жыл бұрын
it's always interesting seeing lists feature a lot of cards that were dominant from the original yugioh and seeing how they either devolved to the point of being useless or evolved to the point they are even more unstoppable now. it's always fun seeing how evolution of tcgs literally turn the oldest cards into literal paperweights or behemoths of their games
@Panium.
Жыл бұрын
Solemn judgement is like THE card for this. Nobody used it when it released, the LP cost was seen as too much, then people just went - "Huh, stop ANYTHING? doesn't seem that bad, I'll use it" after a decade.
@IC-23
Ай бұрын
@Panium. The funny part is woth modern deckbuilding philosophy Judgement was BROKEN back then too. Why bother playing slow resource games where LP does matter when you can just disrespect your opponents gameplan and Judgement away the one thing they could do to stop you before you go for a small combo
@ShredAimlessly92
Жыл бұрын
The fact Soul Charge was legal as long as it was is just… mind boggling.
@Darkkefka
8 ай бұрын
You forgot the biggest corporate of all, money! They have been many times that cards get limited or banned just stop people from playing it to forced them to buy new cards.
@TheAngelRaven
Жыл бұрын
Konami sounds like they would have a heart attack if they knew Magic players could search for literally any card in their deck as a normal mechanic with Black Tutors.
@CaptainJLinebeck
Жыл бұрын
Magical Scientist is so absurd that even with a hard once per turn it probably couldn't come off the banlist
@ShiningJudgment666
Жыл бұрын
Would easily be 2 Link Materials so it certainly wouldn't. The only commitment would be an Extra Deck space for an appropriate Fusion monster. It would have to be given an added downside on top of that like no other Special Summoning for that turn.
@nyecrozier8663
Жыл бұрын
Even some of the old DM-era Fusion monsters would probably still be a handful today if they could be cheated out for a mere 1000 LP by Magical Scientist. Ryu-Senshi or Dark Baler the Terrible locking your opponent out of Normal Traps/Normal Spells? That's damn near an instant win against some decks.
@leebulger7112
5 ай бұрын
@@nyecrozier8663I sometimes imagine Magical Scientist and Dark Strike Fighter working together for a OTK.
@MrTeaIBe
Жыл бұрын
Hate the game always happy to learn about it though
@neroneroren6788
Жыл бұрын
Special Summon lost the meaning about being Special as years passes
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez
Жыл бұрын
Honestly it's extra summon now
@mathewricafrente5984
Жыл бұрын
Special Summons in Yugioh are about as special as a participation ribbon in a competition
@xCorvus7x
Жыл бұрын
Eh, the vast majority of them are facilitated by card effects, i. e. the player cannot just perform them at a whim but has to meet some requirement, unlike Normal summons.
@megarockman75
9 ай бұрын
Personally, Konami should change the rule were only allow to special summon 5 monsters per turn. that way it limits the combo abuse from the opponent. so the second player can have a fighting chance instead of being overwhelm with too many negate effects. it seem unfair, but the way the game is going, i say let be fair.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
If Nibiru was printed in 2002 it would have been useless. Back then it was rare to special summon 5 times per duel let alone per turn.
@bryanbarton8610
Жыл бұрын
The number 1 reason they ban cards is so people have to buy the next new meta deck because their old one is now useless 😂
@ant-onemusic444
Жыл бұрын
Not really, I'd argue that it's the opposite, some cards don't get banned because they still have to sell them
@aceclover758
Жыл бұрын
What a false original comment Same people crying that Tears for limited
@kevenrules
Жыл бұрын
Im never going to not be pissed about Azathot being banned. I had a whole old god themed deck wasnt using the Phantom Knight rank up because i wanted the other effects too. And about a week before a local qualifying tournament it gets banned. So i pissed people off with Krawlers that no one knew how to defend against because all the Yugitubers said they sucked
@gravekeepersven82
Жыл бұрын
Cards that say you cant play the game ever this duel shouldn't be allowed to exist once they're found out to be a major problem like Zexal and VFD was.
@AlexanderMadolche
Жыл бұрын
This was one of your best videos so far, well done. What a great topic and great execution by you. Honorable mention to Zenmaighty for hand ripping. The wind up loop left an emotional scar on me 😂
@blackjacksetzer7748
Жыл бұрын
number 0: konami greed
@AlexisStreams
Жыл бұрын
Card Of Safe return was very useful in my evil zombies deck where i kept bringing back plague spreader zombie whilst also decking the opponent out with soul absorbing bone tower
@williamfalls
Жыл бұрын
Konami introducing an archetype that uses future banned machanics to sell a pack of cards for 6 months: 😊 Konami when old cards become meta, because of the new busted cards: 😮 "Banned!"
@aidanderson53X
4 ай бұрын
I hate that flood gates get banned cuz it means the game will never slow down or allow for control play. Instead we get draw your busted combo
@alonsoarana5307
Жыл бұрын
Number one: to sell new product
@DigiTism
Жыл бұрын
If number one isn’t, “Some bigwigs in Konami simply don’t know how the game really works so arbitrarily decides to hit/keep a card on the list” I’m going to stand on the edge of a castle and threaten to jump if you don’t make that number one.
@sandradee4331
Жыл бұрын
Please livestream this, I wanna see 😇
@leojamesquiambao1047
Жыл бұрын
147 days since last worst classic cards video
@GhostofCerberus
Жыл бұрын
where is selling new product?
@LocrianDorian
Жыл бұрын
"Degenerate strategies that end games far too fast". So like every meta deck currently?
@agitpolat1061
Жыл бұрын
You say that, but that funnily enough reminds me of his "Most degenerate Cards" Video a while back (I think that was the Title atleast?), and most of THAT List pretty much boiled down to just "They suck because they can realistically stop Meta Decks from working". And given the most common Joke about "how they work" is "You play Solitaire for about 15 Minutes to win", I'm honestly starting to think competitive YGO Players have become the unironic epitome of "Optimizing the Fun out of something" to the extent that they literally can't think outside of black and white "Either it's Meta or it sucks, no exception" anymore.
@LocrianDorian
Жыл бұрын
@@agitpolat1061 Well, by definition metagame is all about optimizing your play so fun has pretty much nothing to do with it. It's Konami's job to slow the game down so that you can have fun while still being competitive. But yeah, personally I prefer playing Edison format, I only play the current one in Master Duel casually and I don't play Kashtira or anything top tier, they bore me to tears.
@dominickangelo4319
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely hated Last Turn… if you activated that while you had Jowgen the Spiritualist on the field you essentially won by default since your opponent couldn’t special summon.
@roncerjani9063
Жыл бұрын
They could negate the effects of the summoned monsters, but again the whole thing would become a matter of who has the buffiest monster in their deck. There's really no way to save this card.
@shawnli4746
Жыл бұрын
One reason to trump them all: to make konami more money. They don't care about a fair game. They don't care about the welfare of their players. They don't care that the best cards go for $$$ and put potential players off the game. Need I go on?
@shigesohma
Жыл бұрын
I hate the whole consistency hit as a form of balance because it doesn't address the problem of a deck being basically unstoppable if u don't start with hand traps opening turn. I feel that hitting the insane number of end board generic negates/interrupts is the better way to go.
@thangnghiem4229
Жыл бұрын
In short, there will be five category in term of ban list: Cards cause ruling confusion/break the game. Cards lengthen the game (including those LP gain in WORLD banlist) Cards cause infinity loops Cards plus for us or minus our opponent Floodgate (including boss monster)
@Meowvela
Жыл бұрын
Ooh, this is actually super relevant to some stuff I'm writing. It's an article about the Forbidden List, cards that have left it, and cards that likely never can
@mavericklysander
Жыл бұрын
This episode highlights Yugioh's issues with futureproofing, especially regarding new summoning methods. Scapegoat is a perfect example of this. When it was printed, you couldn't use them for tributing, ritual summoning sucked so it could use the leg up and they were irrelevant to fusion summoning. Then as the video said, synchro was implemented and the card was suddenly way more useful.
@roncerjani9063
Жыл бұрын
I'd say it highlights their problem with the lack of set rotation. They have 10000+ different cards in the game, you can't futureproof every single one of them.
@mavericklysander
Жыл бұрын
@@roncerjani9063 Amen to that! If you actually rotate your sets, then you just confine the nightmarish future interactions to a legacy-style format, rather than having your standard tournaments descend into tier zero horror shows every few years.
@LazurBeemz
Жыл бұрын
@@mavericklysanderwhat old-school cards enabled Tearlaments, again? Or was the culprit the Tears, Ishizh fairies, and Bystials?
@CaptainJLinebeck
Жыл бұрын
@@mavericklysander unfortunately the current treatment and general unpopularity of Standard in MtG hasn't been a great showcase of rotation formats
@TheNewRidore
Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainJLinebeck to be fair the reason why Standard in mtg is losing players is because the average deck cost for standard has gone way up and players don't want to spend the money on a format that makes a deck obsolete after a year... I think its too early to tell if the new rotation system is going to be a good fix it has just begun now.
@TraumaCenter13
Жыл бұрын
Another reason why Konami ban or limited cards, so they can sell new OP archetypes and alternative cards.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
Жыл бұрын
wouldnt they make more money if they just nerf them enough like magical scientist and good enough to be playable a once per a turn effect. I am sure a lot of people will buy them like hotcakes. think of how many people would do to get it. like make it an ultra rare and once per a turn and bam money lol
@OmegaVideoGameGod
Жыл бұрын
They also rig the odds on packs so people will buy more gems, I work in advertising, these companies pay people top dollar coming up with math that can screw the entire game’s flow reward and limitations.
@samuelheddle
Жыл бұрын
Re: OCG surrender rules, I believe the OCG surrender rules only applied to certain matches, like ones which were live streamed, because of the idea that they don't want streamed matches conceded. This was a point of contention because people complained that players had to play out lost matches on camera, which was boring. I think in most OCG matches you might actually play, conceding is allowed.
@CrnaStrela
Жыл бұрын
That's why conceding require judge's consent. Judge would see the board state and both player's hand and decide whether it is ok to surrender or not. Though to be fair it's probably some regional and higher only, local and some regionals still allowing surrender at any point without Judge's consent.
@roncerjani9063
Жыл бұрын
@@CrnaStrelaStill though, couldn't the losing player just end his turn without playing anything? I mean, the judge can be very knowledgeable and all, but he doesn't know my own deck better than me. If I think I'm hopeless, I'm hopeless.
@grantswallow1256
Жыл бұрын
I feel that searching is another type of consistency hit. That’s really all searching is, and you gave the example yourself (“make the limitation of powerful warriors like Armageddon Knight and Dark Grepher trivial” by giving more consistent access to them). Overall amazing vid, though, this is a super useful resource especially for people who maybe haven’t been around as long or took a break and are just coming back
@dalegary450
Жыл бұрын
It's hard not to hate this game for three reasons. The first is that they make new game features/cards that can't play because of older cards, and rather than simply redesigning those new individual features/cards before release so that they don't conflict with older cards they ban the older cards. The second reason I've grown to despise this game is that if something says you can return two monsters to their owner's hands when it is flipped I've noticed a lot of people like to say that face-down cards don't flip and are are simply removed from the field. There was nothing in the first few generations of the game that clearly established that was the case. I don't know if that has since changed. This would be related to Penguin Soldier's effect. Now according to newer cards like Penguin Brave, you can't target face down cards with any sort of effect. Now, if a card is face down and hit with an effect the result one would expect is that card would be flipped because how else can the players determine if it has any effects to use in response. Penguin Brave can counter that but it suggests that cards can, in theory, respond to effects. This is where I introduce my third and last dislike of the game, the players. This collective group of morons will always try to cheat by misinterpreting the rules so that whatever you use can't be applied to them and because the rules include so many vague concepts and new weird features a lot of the judges for this situation don't seem to be familiar with it so the judges just assume that these flip cards can't be activated due to effects of other cards.
@TwistedAlly
Жыл бұрын
I'm a tad surprised there wasn't like an honorary mention of TG Hyper Librarian regarding the "Draw cards" section. That monster has been limited since the first list after it was printed because a no limit "Draw 1 card whenever a Synchro Summon is performed" was absurdly good, especially in the age of its release when basically everyone ran Synchro Spam decks.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
Funnily enough just yesterday I realized that you draw a card each time anyone Synchro Summons, not just Librarian's controller
@baronobeefdip8075
Жыл бұрын
Just wanna say I feel like "once per turn" effects should be called semi-limited effects and "hard once per turn" should be called limited effects. Once per duel can stay like that because it's pretty rare.
@shapular
10 ай бұрын
Semi-limited effect makes it sound like you can use it twice.
@brotherhood7596
Жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards better in real life than in the anime/manga
@Gerd0
Жыл бұрын
#0 Konami has no idea what they're doing #-1 Konami knows exactly what they're doing and already made their money
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
Two things can be true at once
@Fatalordi
Жыл бұрын
Playing trap cards from the hand with Makyura.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
Which is ironic considering how many players consider trap cards to be too slow. You'd think that would balance out and just make them decent, since you need to get Makyura to the graveyard before your deck full of bricks can be used. But then again, seeing as how pre-errata Makyura's effect worked no matter how it ended up in the graveyard this turn (meaning you could just send it there straight from the deck or discard it and that would work) it wasn't a huge hurdle. I think a better errata would have been this: "During your Main Phase, if this card is sent to the GY: You can activate Normal Trap Cards from your hand. For the rest of this turn, you can only draw 1 more card using Trap effects." This way you can't use the Chick the Yellow + Call of the Haunted loop to win the game with infinite battle damage, nor can you Solemn Judgment from hand, nor can you draw your whole deck with Jar of Greed
@tomsimpkins1211
Ай бұрын
Reason number 1: I find them fun to run in a rogue strategy and they just so happen to be 10x better in a meta deck.
@ophilipp7292
Жыл бұрын
i recall so many of these cards from playing as a kid back before the banlist was a thing.... was proud as heck of myself for figuring out the yata-lock myself....fuck im old xD
@markmyers6756
Жыл бұрын
Magical scientist is one of the most powerful cards ever and according to the anime he's just wearing boxers under his coat.
@Dude-do8vo
Жыл бұрын
I would have also said because the card didn't have a hard once per turn...many cards that are broken/abused could be fixed to some degree by simply giving them a hard once per turn
@Blueberry_Muffins
Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Konami has the audacity to make cards that can be “Once per chain” those should definitely not exist. One per turn should be standard across the board.
@sandradee4331
Жыл бұрын
Even multiple once per turn cards are in the ban list. The standard should be a hard once per duel! :P
@chazconkey5888
Жыл бұрын
But then my opponent can just use all of their overpowered cards every duel. It should be a once per day restriction
@MarioLopez-xs3vc
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how much less the OCG cares about draw power than the TCG, probably because of how ridiculous something like Maxx "C" is compared to almost any other draw card, assuming you're blinding second against the average summon combo deck. Or can rebuild off a single card, preventing those same decks from going second against any of them that manages to go first without first getting hit by it.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
Funnily enough in 2003 yugioh maxx C wouldn't be that good, you'd pretty much just get one card off of it per turn and it's not light or dark attribute so you couldn't even use it as Envoy of the Beginning fodder
@kittentheboss2796
Жыл бұрын
I don't exactly blame older cards for being too strong. When the meta and format changed to pendulums Yu-Gi-Oh! was never the same. Back in the day Exodia OTK decks were everyone's bane as they had to sit there and wait for the opponent to kill you for minutes. This is quite similar how links and pendulums ruined yugioh's game health. Sitting and waiting for your opponent to eat through 20 cards for 3 negates isn't healthy for the game. The amount of special summoning the game has now is just too much for my liking which is why i run fossil dyna stun taking things back to the old days. Mabey Mystic mine took that ideology a bit too far but at least it made burn decks viable again.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
I think Mystic Mine had a few problems even though I like the idea: The effect "Destroy this card if you both have the same number of monsters" just isn't happening. The Mine player can just refuse to summon anything. Your opponent can't easily get rid of all their own monsters just via Extra Deck summons alone since they'll still have at least one monster. * It's a better skill drain since it forbids players from activating monster effects anywhere, not just the field (and since it's worded as "cannot activate" you can't even attempt to activate an effect with a beneficial cost like you can with skill drain) * It also prevents attacking so your opponent just has to sit there and wait to draw a spell/trap to remove it. Which is difficult since the Mine player can use burn, exodia, or final countdown to win before the opponent can draw into removal I'd rework Mystic Mine like so: "You can only activate "Mystic Mine" once per Duel. Negate the effects of monsters in their owner's possession of the player who controls the most monsters. During the End Phase, if you control no monsters or both players control the same number of monsters: Banish this card."
@TheReaperofHades
Жыл бұрын
Honorable mentions goes to Wind-Up Hunter for being able to rip your hand on turn 1.
@dennisyoung6122
Жыл бұрын
Burn Damage: Turned the game into Solitaire. So pretty much what the game is now, just without the bans of those cards that push that gameplay?
@XionSteel
Жыл бұрын
Mind Crush was also a fairly annoying hand rip tech in during goat since good hand traps were slowly making their way into the game and searchers were everywhere, you sometimes never went through a game without searching for a key card for your deck only for you to lose it. Worst case if they knew what you were playing they would just take a guess if you didn't search for anything specific, they would assume the card you need is already in your hand and sometimes be right, worst case they guess wrong and get to see your hand. For special summoning, Cyber-stein is kind of a good example of why we can have nice things, Komani did try to limit to 1, only for sprite, tearlement and super heavy samurais to be perfectly ok to pay 5k of their life points to bring out the Last Warrior from Another Planet just to have another way to flood gate. If it wasn't that then they would find other ways to abuse it so the end result is that Stein is much too degenerate to ever exist without an errata to make it virtually unplayable.
@tripleaaabattery8480
8 ай бұрын
In cyber steins case, it was always either floodgates like last warrior, or a dumb ftk that essentially turned cyber stein into magical scientist.
@arrownoir
Жыл бұрын
It’s head scratching why Maxx C is still legal in Masterduel. Whoever designed it must have incriminating evidence against Konami execs.
@youtubeuniversity3638
Жыл бұрын
17:02 "So as long as there were more than three turns in a game" is just. So depressing.
@Blahblahblah28504
Жыл бұрын
Floodgates are just one giant middle finger to your opponent no matter what, and it's not surprising that they're always banned. On another note, what the actual hell were they thinking when coming up with Magical Scientist!?
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
No idea. At least with Cyber Stein you have to pay 5000 life points which you can really only do once since at the time there weren't any fusion monsters that had an effect to let you gain more life points. Funnily enough, Cyber Stein was Forbidden in duel links even though the game's starting life points are only 4000. Just goes to show how powerful that is.
@aznpikachu215
Жыл бұрын
Amazing cards that had zero play 20 years ago are relevant.
@alanfinck5595
Жыл бұрын
while on the subject of banned cards here is a suggestion: Top 10 cards with the most ban/limited list changes (like sky striker).
@hightidekraken
Жыл бұрын
GAZELLE TO 3 BABY LETS GOOO
@videakias3000
Жыл бұрын
I would like to know why konamy hates infernities so much? just make infernity archfiend and infernity launcher unlimited again. what's the worst that could happen?
@AlX-Ander
Жыл бұрын
I will be forever mad at them limiting Macro and Fissure solely because they wanted to keep making overpowered GY effects.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
Жыл бұрын
now for victory dragon the only way I can think of getting off the banned list. if they did like either a give it a support card where they are forced to accept the ko from victory dragon u know like unity and friendship card. or if u are about to win with this card they cant forfeit. but either way its not really a healthy card. and honestly I rather see like graceful draw 3 and banish 7 or even just magical scientist once pe a turn and honestly dont care about victory dragon that much. and tribute three only dragons. like I rather see more dark magician girl dragon knight supports or her for that matter. more ultimate great moth and mabe a serpent knight dragon support non speed duel or five head supports than seeing victory dragon unbanned. now for cyber stien mabe like 7999 lp and banned that equip card and mabe if cyber stien destroyed then u lose the duel or something like that
@sandradee4331
Жыл бұрын
No need for support cards, just a standard tournament ruling that a player can't quit at the opponent's turn unless the opponent agrees or if the game causes unnecessary delays.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
Жыл бұрын
@@sandradee4331 yea mabe some thing like that for victory dragon. now for each banned card I am not sure how to fix it besides heavy storm cant special summon or like scientist once per a turn. if u got suggestions that be great. and mabe we can send that idea to konami lol
@sandradee4331
Жыл бұрын
@@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 Why would you fix them? They're banned for a reason, just release a more balanced/playable retrain.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
Жыл бұрын
@@sandradee4331 well sadly hate to admit u are right. mabe I just love old school cards like them call back... sorry I just well... sigh... but anyways its not the end of the world I do want to see more support like dark magician, blue eyes, great moth, ally of justice, anime characters cards like rex, bandit keith, and more lol. but anyways u have a point about the banned cards. I mean for heavy storm we do have like lighting storm so point taken
@SmugLookingBarrel
Жыл бұрын
In my eyes, the number 1 reason that a card is banned isn't for special summoning, but rather for cheating resource requirements. Special summoning is a thing that happens all the time, but monsters are designed to have costs in the forms of cards needed to bring them out, using once per turn things like a normal summon, or variance, so being able to cheat any of those tends to get a card banned. Cards that can summon monsters from deck thus removing variance and card costs? Probably banned. Cards that can loop multiple times thus ignoring once per turn restrictions on monster summoning? Probably banned. Cards that can special summon monsters ignoring their summoning conditions? Probably banned.
@roncerjani9063
Жыл бұрын
My number 1 is cards, especially those from Extra Deck that are way too generic without needing to. The best ED cards like Apollousa, Borrel Sword, Talker etc are all free for all, and not tied to their archetypes. It makes every Extra Deck look like a plagiature of each other, and help spread unwanted issues of the game, like board of negates, unbreakable boards and 1 turn long games.
@runningoncylinders3829
Жыл бұрын
Unexpected boost in power of an older card in a newer deck. Often times this is the fault of the newer card, but it falls into being “too new” to hit. I like seeing cards move off their bans and limits, sometimes just needs errata, don’t get me started on the just errata it hopt club.
Victory Dragon is an example of someone at Konami not thinking. There are lot of Joke Cards in Yu-Gi-Oh and most of them have it clearly stated they can not be used in Tournaments. Hell, there are cards that simply just very rare reskins that can't be used in Tournaments for whatever reason. Yet, Victory Dragon is the one card they forgot about. Only thing I can figure is maybe it's a Translation thing.
@maximilianhenzerling7027
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Nice Idea! Also smooth präsentation.
@drunksaintloser195
Жыл бұрын
I think I'm the only one who ever got victory dragons effect off in my area, I played it when I really wanted to have a cig during locals, so victory dragon got me away from the tables for a break. The guy was kinda dumb founded on what happened and needed the players around us to explain, this was like 2005 or 6 though and the card was fresh and the whole surrender cop out wasn't a know strategy against it yet
@thek838
Жыл бұрын
This list just feels odd to me because most of these aren't why a card gets banned. The real reason is mostly just because the card don't have cost equal to it's effect or loose restrictions. For example pot of greed is not broken cause it draws cards it's broken because draws cards for no cost. Magical Scientist is not broken because special summons it's broken because it only has a cost of 1000LP for one and has no restrictions for using those cards as materials. The drawing cards or Special Summoning aren't the inherent problem, the inherent problem that banned these cards and the reason behind it was due to lack of costs and restrictions. So Lack of costs should of been on this list and Lack of restrictions. Problematic Rules and Consistency hits are the only 2 I agreed with on this because that is an actual reason why cards are banned/limited.
@IricAlexis
Жыл бұрын
Top 10 Reasons Cards Get Banned or Limited? why so much there is only 2 important reason. 1. so konami can create more broken card to sell it safely since they can banned them latter on 2. they banned prev OP card to promote new card.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
Жыл бұрын
out of all the list here I think magical scientist has the highest chance to get unbanned and see play if they just did once per a turn. as for the other cards here or on the banned list not sure. and for heavy storm could be like cant special summon the turn u use the card. or if u use the card first then u cant special summon for this turn. and for snatch steal mabe get 10k lp for enemy player per a turn and cant attack besides with a control monster. and the fusion one the one u pay 2000 lp to special summon as many banished monster as possible. I say 7999 lp and u have to win on that turn otherwise u lose.
@sandradee4331
Жыл бұрын
I rather not let these iconic banned/limited cards get errata'd and instead just release another retrain with conditions to make them playable/balanced. Still can't accept what they did to Chaos Emperor Dragon and other iconic legacy cards. I do, however, agree to make some other cards' effects slapped with a hard once per turn only if they can make the card more playable -- like Foolish Burial getting errata'd but must be released from banlist.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
Жыл бұрын
@@sandradee4331 oh I just saw this comment right when I gave u a comment on my other one... anyways it depends on how they do it... I guess... I mean like nercovalley is one where they changed it and its better now. but overall u do have a point. the errta stuff I want I bet they wouldnt do it like that more likely so u have a point like brain control shivers... but its just that I just want to be able to use them is all. but I guess the close thing they could do is either a make a card similar to it but nerf it a bit or b make like a magical scientist number 2 and make it a once per a turn. for pot cards they will never make errata pot. so they just make a new one. anyways as long as they improve the game we good. and mabe some supports like ally of justice, dark magician girl, serpant knight dragon, five head dragon, gate guardian, ultimate great moth, blue eyes and their fusion more supports. cause honestly even dark magician and blue eyes kinda eh... but yea if u got other suggestions and ideas I can talk to konami and hopefully they listen but doubt it.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
@@sandradee4331 I agree, especially since Cannon Soldier and friends are literally only good cards because they can FTK. If those cards had a hard once per turn they would never see play simply because they aren't useful
@DarkMagicianGirl0
Жыл бұрын
Isn't copying effects of monsters even worse than all of these. Starving Fusion Venom Dragon While only two monsters fall into the broken end of this category I feel like when it is bad it is straight to #1
@TwoToneShoes
11 ай бұрын
Copying effects is usually just broken because they copy a burn effect, so it's kind of a subcategory there. Even if Starving Venom was also broken for copying Electrumite, too, the main reason it's banned is burn.
@DarkMagicianGirl0
11 ай бұрын
@@TwoToneShoes I suppose I hadn't really thought about that aspect of this. While it is a lot more broken than most other cards it is not the fact that it can copy that makes it broken but what it copies. If all cards were normal monsters it can't copy anything so it is useless. So in a weird way the most powerful card is the one that alone can't do anything by itself (hence why it doesn't qualify for this list) but exploits the fact that it's any monster it wants to be while gaining the benefit it is not the original. HAHAHA. I was curious as to why the copy ability was not here but it makes perfect sense now Thanx
@supremeking6694
Жыл бұрын
26:22 It’s a shame you forgot to mention “Macro-Cosmos” for shutting down GY-centric strategies Edit: Apparently, “Kashtira Arise-Heart” got banned in the latest banlist, which also had the effect of “Macro Cosmos”
@AthosJosue
5 ай бұрын
Every card should be legal, that way Konami would have to put real thought on the design process, instead of winging it.
@757gamerguy2
Жыл бұрын
Disagree with #1. #1 should be “To sell new products”
@RinaShinomiyaVal
11 ай бұрын
Thats number 0 😂
@ryanrandolphjr779
Жыл бұрын
I literally named out this list and what I thought would be on it. I got most of the list right and even named out the cards featured. Thanks for the great content!
@reisen9584
Жыл бұрын
why no reason "copium"? just look at halq! Konami had been coping that card to be in the game by destroying other tuners, lol.
@anthonyamurri9278
5 ай бұрын
Cards get banned to push product
@DagothUr2002
Жыл бұрын
I want to ask, what is the name of the background song or what is the name of the artist who composed it? Great video, Nerevar
@lilykoizumi
Жыл бұрын
Went back to check for you and the bgm i used for this is called “Misu - Calm Shores”
@DagothUr2002
Жыл бұрын
@@lilykoizumi That's indeed the song, I really appreciate. Thank you.
@darkwolf9637
Жыл бұрын
It's still so wild to me that the ocg just doesn't allow you to surrender even when you've obviously lost.
@tripleaaabattery8480
8 ай бұрын
Now imagine this in a no-banlist tournament in the ocg With Victory Dragon allowed
@ERenato
Жыл бұрын
Possibly one of your best Yugioh related video ever Made.
@kotzpenner
Жыл бұрын
"too degenerate to keep in the game" I know what you mean but lmao
@Greg501-
Жыл бұрын
I see this was recorded before the list came out yesterday...
@ofox716
Жыл бұрын
"Burn ended the game far too fast --" Meanwhile, most games only last 2 turns max regardless
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
Жыл бұрын
18:57 Idea for a counter card to players adding to many cards to their hand: _Accumulation of Greed_ (EARTH) Level 1 Rock/Tuner/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can normal summon/set this card from your hand if your opponent adds to their hand or excavates any number of cards. Unaffected by the effects of cards from your opponent’s hand. Each time your opponent adds to their hand or excavates a card, increase this cards ATK/DEF by 500, and place 1 Greed Counter on it. (Quick Effect) You can apply each of the following effects of “Accumulation of Greed” once per turn:_ ⚪️Increase your LP by equal to all Greed Counters on the field X1000. ⚪️Transfer 4 Greed Counters from this card onto a card on the field: That card’s effects are negated while it has any Greed counters on it. ⚪️Remove 4 Greed Counters from this card: Shuffle 1 card that is banished or the the GY into it’s owners deck. ATK/0 DEF/0
@mcmisterhd1920
Жыл бұрын
Droll and Lockbird would like to know your location
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
Жыл бұрын
@@mcmisterhd1920 I always preferred cards that make your opponent _regret_ playing a certain way rather than just just locking them out of it.
@mcmisterhd1920
Жыл бұрын
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire That makes sense, maybe remove the counter requirement and make it so you can use one if its effects (negate a face up card or shuffle a card back into the deck) each time your opponent adds without the once per turn. The 4 counter requirement is a bit harsh and I dont think that even decks like dark world would care since you just search your engine pieces and then when youve got everything, only then make your bosses you dont want to be negated. That way it would be a decent tech against purrely. Right now, Im not sure I would side deck it.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
Жыл бұрын
@@mcmisterhd1920 Ok, then let me just gut the counter part and… _Accumulation of Greed_ (EARTH) Level 1 Rock/Tuner/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can normal summon/set this card from your hand if your opponent adds to their hand or excavates any number of cards. Unaffected by the effects of cards from your opponent’s hand. Gains 500 ATK/DEF for each card your opponent adds to their hand or excavates. Each time your opponent adds to their hand or excavates a card, you can apply 1 of the following effects:_ ⚪️Increase your LP by 1000. ⚪️Target 1 card on the field: That target’s effects are negated until the end of the next phase. ⚪️Shuffle 1 card that is banished or the the GY into it’s owners deck. ATK/0 DEF/0 THERE, took out the counter and HOPT parts (and made the negate choice temporary to compensate for the extra ease of access.)
@farkhans5360
Жыл бұрын
I thought kashtira's best spell is that one that can sp summ different kashtira name from the deck?
@germanydietz1984
Жыл бұрын
Hey I've been looking for a video that you do when you do your videos which I enjoy please can you do a video that cards that whenever you pay light points or you get inflicted or you pay or you don't take battle damage or anything with damage I'm looking for all the cards that when it comes to damage that I can make my opponents takes it instead of me I beg of you please do a video
@tanatep23
Жыл бұрын
magic cylinder, swift scarecrow, battle fader
@DramaticCrossroad
8 ай бұрын
If they create an retroactive errata database with "These cards can now only use their effect once per turn.", it would surely shorten the Limited/Forbidden list.
@williamdrum9899
Ай бұрын
Just from memory: * Mass Driver * Ronintoadin * Phoenixian Cluster Amaryllis * Magical Scientist (although probably not tbh, the effect is still very good) * Cannon Soldier and friends (OCG banlist) * Card of Safe Return (also debatable) * Samsara Lotus
@nayemurrahman1791
Жыл бұрын
Ideas for next top 10 cards: Top ten Dragon cards Top ten ancient gear cards Top ten magican cards Top ten fusion cards Top ten archetypes
@goodgamegelinsky7405
Жыл бұрын
I disagree #1 should’ve been Money. Can’t make money if everyone is playing the same deck since last year. Got to convince y’all to spend
@OmegaVideoGameGod
Жыл бұрын
They’re still making money even if meta exists they’ll just limit the cards people can get so that’s why everybody jumps to meta because then people can keep winning realistically and Konami is really the winner because they’re just making money and they’re making more money due to limits and new releases.
@wilkobadberg5272
Жыл бұрын
This List was not exactly what I expected to be honest. I thought we see Reasons like "too strong for its time" (like Raigeki or Change of Heart during the early days of Yugioh) or "create infinite Loops" (like Butterfly Dagger Elmer or Wind Up Hunter / Zenmaity). I do agree that many infinite loops going hand in hand with Things on your List though (burn damage, Drawing Cards, Hand Ripping and so on...)
@XxHistorikxX
Жыл бұрын
I just plain don't think you should be able to slink summon with tokens. It's absolutely broken
@anayabeltransergioemmanuel146
11 ай бұрын
The cards that were good only in DL like shiranui that dominate for 1 year
@DarkPlaysThings
5 ай бұрын
Chicken Game is back at 1. 2024 is already wild
@Ragnarok540
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people complain about negates but very few cards with negates have ever been hit in the banlist, one I can think of is Toadally Awesome it's negate is not hard once per turn and it steals the cards being negated.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
Жыл бұрын
And there's also the fact that it can easily be recycled with Spright Elf (which is what pushed Toad to the brink of the ban list).
@syrelian
Жыл бұрын
Negates are healthy, negates are interaction, they're not gonna get hit unless some core fuckup is involved because saying No is the simplest and most efficient form of interaction
@Firebird-he3sz
Жыл бұрын
I’m calling it: 1. Money.
@steezaustin
7 ай бұрын
I feel like the way the game is played now there shouldn’t even be a banned list
@SargeWolf010
6 ай бұрын
Tbh I dont see the point in making cards that are gonna get banned or limited...
@WavemasterAshi
Жыл бұрын
I don't see "to push you to buy their new product" anywhere on this list...
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