Hey there, folks, it's me -- Fredo from The Godfather. I edited this video and just made a small mistake throwing up Emboar's stats and abilities there because just beforehand it was spoken about, so I got a little crossed up. It was a long video and I just was being a little bit careless in the early parts. My bad!
@suchomimustenerensis
3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you have any subs your awesome XD?
@andrethebreadsecretary3484
3 жыл бұрын
I saw those stats and was shocked thinking: "Delphox is a physical attacker?????" Then I realised it HAD to be a simple mistake. Thanks for clarifying.
@SkylerRapier0
3 жыл бұрын
Water type next my guy.
@5centdrip847
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is wayyyy better then you think man
@sean-jz8jk
3 жыл бұрын
rapidash gets morning sun it does have reliable recovery
@jazzrockr
3 жыл бұрын
The problem is Torkoal's speed is low enough that it's actually fast......on a Trick Room team. That's the thing that makes the Pokemon useless in the campaign portion of the game, but broken in the VGC.
@connerrock1164
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. In my opinion swap Flareon for Torkoal. And trust me when I say so shade on Flareon I love it. It’s just so not great
@jakuth99
3 жыл бұрын
Plus it’s speed makes it perfect for setting up sun. It guarantees that it’s the weather that will be on the field since everything is set up in order of speed
@theboi5584
3 жыл бұрын
True true, Torkoal doesn’t deserve to be on the list
@bulborb8756
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is a turtle so....do u really expect it to be fast?
@stompingpeak2043
3 жыл бұрын
Well torkoal is a mon that's used in the top teir metas. Its not great for the typical player. Maybe this is why he doesn't like it.
@dtexdarkus
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is widely considered to be the best sub-ubers sun setter due to its excellent physical bulk, access to stealth rock and rapid spin, access to body press to smack tyranitar and heatran, and its ability to inflict status with toxic/yawn/lava plume. Even that “problematic” low speed is a blessing in disguise, virtually guaranteeing that sun is set up when leading off against opposing weather. It’s excellent enough that it sees frequent use on many VGC teams, forming the infamous Venukoal core which provides power, speed control, defensive synergy, and team flexibility, as it functions well under trick room to fire off devastating sun-boosted eruptions. Compare that with Ninetales, who can only be used as a pure offensive Pokémon. With only a base 81 special attack, using it as a sweeper is essentially a waste of a teamslot. It doesn’t compress teamslots like providing stealth rock, providing secondary hazard control, etc. It arguably deserves to be on the top 10 strongest fire types list, as it is the backbone of an entire archetype and helps greatly to facilitate it. At the very least, it’s better than simisear, who has never seen usage as more than a joke.
@LightningFromHeaven
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget them sweet sunboosted eruptions
@theboi5584
3 жыл бұрын
This...is all completely true.
@romanb1615
3 жыл бұрын
Yea its definitely not that good on its own but its definitely a good support pokemon does its job.
@sombuddhapandit3088
3 жыл бұрын
Yup. It is one of the bulkiest and most strategically useful Pokemon in both Sun and trick room teams
@SACREDSCIZOR9116
2 жыл бұрын
Hey mystic should have used flareon or turtonator or coalossal
@albertogomes167
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal: *has drought, Yawn, Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin* Mystic Umbreon: Trash
@MicahhhHD
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah because he’s trash. Get over it kid.
@Yoymicanalmierdero
2 жыл бұрын
But torkoal was my first shiny :( XD
@rashmikalia1304
2 жыл бұрын
It has been in NU in smogon since it was introduced
@JasonBarnesss
3 жыл бұрын
Pokémon: Has a base speed of less than 100 Mystic: So yeah this is straight trash...
@thejuic3b0i64
3 жыл бұрын
Power Creep
@WildWeavile
3 жыл бұрын
@@thejuic3b0i64 Speed Creep.
@slyfox7452
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he ever head of choice scarf
@goldenhydreigon4727
3 жыл бұрын
*If he calls Hydreigon trash, I shall make this man the first of my victims.*
@hbb1939
3 жыл бұрын
@@slyfox7452 ikr
@kostaskarras3374
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal's low speed is actually an advantage for a weather setter. if it comes in the same turn with any other opposing weather setter the sun will prevail. Plus stealth rocks with rapid spin make it a hazard setter and hazzard controller 2in1. And lava plume 30% chance to burn and punish physical attackers who might want to take advantage of his limited attacking movepool make him even better.. It doesnt deserve to be in the list. But other than that, great video!!
@galvsparks6295
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he thinks that ninetales is a better sun setter than torkoal is pretty funny and sad at the same time. Torkoal is used to setup sun in : RU,UU,OU and even UBER it’s also the main sun setter in doubles and monotype teams, the only times you’ll use ninetales instead would be in the tiers torkoal isn’t allowed (PU,ZU)
@danielve09
3 жыл бұрын
It also gets eruptuion earth power and body press which is really all it needs with a protect
@charliewhite3905
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is a beast
@johnlachman5121
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal with Curse can become a real problem too
@pumapandora1310
3 жыл бұрын
Also flannerys torkoal should be enough to convince people that torkoal is op
@DRDJkoolade
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is banned on Smogon doubles? There were soooo many other terrible Pokémon you could’ve chosen? What?
@dtexdarkus
3 жыл бұрын
I know right? It’s the best non-Groudon drought Pokémon in the game.
@stompingpeak2043
3 жыл бұрын
@@dtexdarkus maybe he was thinking about the gen3 version
@goGothitaLOL
3 жыл бұрын
@@stompingpeak2043 yep, the one way before Gen 7, like he's been living under a rock whiling sleeping on Torkoal
@danieljosuemedrano2495
3 жыл бұрын
@@stompingpeak2043 nope, he wanst considering all the options of torkoal fo being used
@noodle0512
3 жыл бұрын
The stats and abilities you showed for Delphox were Emboar’s stats
@kannan07
3 жыл бұрын
Magician was correct
@gagabitch54
3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused for a second lol. I was like "Delphox is a mage why does it have a higher PHYSICAL stat"
@davyt0247
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Frato (editor) goofed
@jex1689
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@krishshanbhag3225
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was super confused
@foxowl374
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal actually gets quite a lot of competitive use.
@WheelStart
3 жыл бұрын
He maybe ranking it by play through not competitive
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
@@WheelStart is used in competitive is just this guy dont play VGC where you know, this mon are designed, is the best sun seter in the game, have more used than groudon rigth now that is a gs cup
@moleman3708
3 жыл бұрын
@@WheelStart He says in the beginning of this video and the water one that he is ranking it competitively. Also the way he talks about it is in a very competitive mindset.
@WheelStart
3 жыл бұрын
@@moleman3708 yes
@blueflare3299
3 жыл бұрын
Not in Smogon format.
@Jamieswiftie13
3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t we get water out the way, it’s always last
@mattpascual1931
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal shouldn’t be on this list
@mr.cookies7173
3 жыл бұрын
I got you 100 hundy likes
@justinelowellmangulabnan1861
3 жыл бұрын
I got you 115 likes
@ttmoil2olowoyo724
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jizolord69
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, VGC players unite!
@danieljosuemedrano2495
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal can be used on other teams than isn't just doubles the fact that he gets assault vest , body press , solar beam, support moves and invest in hp and SP Def and your good to go if u want to make a pokemon work u try your hardest to find something to make it useful but the fact is that torkoal has some benefits and DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS LIST
@Cruzer108
3 жыл бұрын
Ok but imagine this torkoal gets a evolution that turns its shell into a volcano BUT even better torkoal gets eviolite for its defences giving it a great role
@pokemaniac05
3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, Rapidash can learn Morning Sun to recover HP
@itspheonix5181
3 жыл бұрын
But he is extremely trash
@jenajelema
3 жыл бұрын
@@itspheonix5181 rapidash carried my team in lg
@itspheonix5181
3 жыл бұрын
@@jenajelema but he is trash
@bvd_vlvd
3 жыл бұрын
@@itspheonix5181 we don't care. The point is, what Mystic said wasn't true
@itspheonix5181
3 жыл бұрын
@@bvd_vlvd I don't care about u too whatever anybody say rapidash is trash
@tobiasrheker5738
3 жыл бұрын
bruh toarkel was one of the OU(Overused/ in competetiv pokemon battling) pokemon befor crown tundra was released and even saw usage in competetiv 2v2 at high tournament level. It IS much better than ninetails at setting up sun in the sword and shield meta. It can lay stealth rocks, yawn, rapid spin and you can easily switch it in against physical attackers to set up sun and you switch it out against special attackes
@justinjosey5717
3 жыл бұрын
Not only to mention it's low speed makes sure that sun is set, and trick room has to think twice about setting up since toarkel is so slow it'll hit hard first
@chrisbedell21
3 жыл бұрын
Yea mystic umbreon these are you opinions my son camrupt idk if i spell it right but he def a power house
@annthom5301
3 жыл бұрын
Its still good now, but as of tomorrow maybe groudon will outshine it as a drought setter
@allyowancy8037
3 жыл бұрын
I think its just complicated abaut those things. If the pokemon have a good design then i use it
@rennyjesus
3 жыл бұрын
I dunno if someone already commented this but Rapidash actually have recovery on Morning Sun, even in its Kantonian form...
@joeyteter9383
3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely like Heatmor. He’s got one of the best shinies in Pokémon, but yea he’s not a great Pokémon statistically
@itszyworn4874
3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. Heatmor is actually my favorite pokemon alongside Sandslash, and I couldn't agree more with a statement like this. He might not be the greatest battleler but he surely knows how to warm my heart
@joeyteter9383
3 жыл бұрын
@@itszyworn4874 totally agree. I just never thought it would be one that the majority dislikes, I just can’t see why. I love Heatmor, and with a fantastic shiny like his I figured he’d be nowhere near “hated”
@xord6286
3 жыл бұрын
4th grade me was obsessed with anteaters so I liked it a lot haha
@joeyteter9383
3 жыл бұрын
@@xord6286 yea that makes total sense lol but it’s just a cool mon so i still don’t know how it could garner any hatred whatsoever 🤷🏼 lol
@jenajelema
3 жыл бұрын
its trash but its so cool looking though
@Soso_LP
3 жыл бұрын
No Typhlosion here so far, roger that. *Thank you.*
@matthewkuscienko4616
3 жыл бұрын
If Typhlosion isn't on the list, it really should be. It's directly outclassed by Delphox, who has better coverage and a secondary typing in top of being faster and hitting harder. The ONLY reason why people think that Typhlosion is at all a decent Pokemon is because it happens to be the best starter Pokemon choice in gen2 and their fourth gen remakes, and okay, in all fairness it is quite good. But in terms of it's competitive viability, it has never been that good, and it legitimately offers far and away the least out of any fire type starter.
@Soso_LP
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkuscienko4616 It had a place in UUBL before gen4, so I wouldn't say that it was "never good". Many of its moves became physical because of the P/S split that gen, and as Typh's physical attack is worse than its special, it was no longer able to take full advantage of most of its coverage attacks. A good example is thunder punch. Im not sure if Typhlosion really is the worst fire starter, too. I'd rather say its Emboar, though it has some things going for it that let it have a small edge over Typh.
@matthewkuscienko4616
3 жыл бұрын
@@Soso_LP Maybe Typhlosion has been okay in some generations in the past, but it still overall has been the worst fire type starter, and it still would more than likely be now. Charizard has the exact same stats, but it's better and has 2 good mega evos and a Gmax form, Blaziken has speed boost and is really powerful, Infernape was better than Blaziken before gen5 and has good attacking stats and speed, Emboar may be slow, but it's a really strong wallbreaker and has good coverage options, Delphox is literally just Typhlosion with better stats in the areas that matter and has a secondary type for more STAB, Incineroar has intimidate and is great in VGC, and Cinderace has good attack and speed and an ability that is essentially protean with a different name. Typhlosion's only advantage is eruption, which has it's power reduced as it takes damage, so entry hazards, priority (especially aqua jet), and faster Pokemon (with or without choice scarf) really hurt it's viability
@anarchistangel2314
3 жыл бұрын
I want to argue against Typhlosion being on this list because it's my favourite fully evolved starter out of all of them, but it just got fucked so badly by the physical/special split...
@bvd_vlvd
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkuscienko4616 yeah, Typhlosion is a joke. It gets extrasensory as its coverage. And I think that's it. Delphox is way better, without a doubt and the only thing Typhlosion has it going for it is eruption scarf spam until it gets hit once and dies
@jboogs1719
3 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to completely disagree on toarkoal since it was and has been in the competitive meta !
@bewarebewear1507
3 жыл бұрын
Should have replaced torkoal with flareon. Flareon is just a terrible fire type pokemon
@ni8mareassasin367
3 жыл бұрын
it has guta and soo high physical attack stat whoch makes it slightly better
@bewarebewear1507
3 жыл бұрын
@@ni8mareassasin367 just because it has high physical attack doesnt make it good, it still gets worn down hard by things like stealth rocks, since its a fire type it needs a toxic orb to activate guts, and flare blitz will wear it dowm even more, plus it doesnt have a good movepool all it has to attack its flare blitz, facade, and superpower it needs more variety than that and its low speed is a problem too, many pokemon outspeed it While torkoal has much higher bulk, can set up stealth rocks, rapid spin them away, and has the ability drought. Torkoal has more utility and less problems to deal with than flareon
@ni8mareassasin367
3 жыл бұрын
@@bewarebewear1507 torkoal isn't specially that good and yeah flareon's only issue is the speed
@bewarebewear1507
3 жыл бұрын
@@ni8mareassasin367 doesnt matter if torkoals special attack isnt good, like I said its a good support pokemon and the best sun setter in the game Also flareons issue isnt only speed, like I said being poisoned will kill ot easier making it useless, being slow and worn down by your own attacks or items makes it terrible, how can you make flareon good if it wont even get a chance to use its attacks against an opponent thatll knock it out when it outspeeds it?
@ni8mareassasin367
3 жыл бұрын
@@bewarebewear1507 not special attack special defense
@Kall_Mii_Kemo
3 жыл бұрын
I got destroyed by a torkoal using body press holding a quick claw in the players cup 3 lol I was so proud
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
Dude this guy was wrong in that point, torkoal is in fact one of the best weater seter in the game and see to much use in vgc
@Emental64
3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice that Mystic put emboars base stats instead of delphoxs?
@banj4356
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh read the top comment.
@Emental64
3 жыл бұрын
@@banj4356 ???
@allyowancy8037
3 жыл бұрын
And did anyone notice that @emental 64 put “beast stats” instead of “base stats”
@Emental64
3 жыл бұрын
@@allyowancy8037 Auto correct
@zephdoesthings
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is a huge defensive tank, especially in VGC. Replace its slot with Flareon and it would be perfect.
@manyiahandret5119
3 жыл бұрын
Naaaah i used flareon with gust and toxic orb and just use flame charge and crush the entire enemy team it almost always happen when i get to use flareon
@samuell24
3 жыл бұрын
@@manyiahandret5119 flareon wouldn’t even last long enough to do any of that and....did you just say gust???
@zohaibhossain821
3 жыл бұрын
@@manyiahandret5119 you must be joking seriously gust?
@manyiahandret5119
3 жыл бұрын
@@samuell24 wait i Mean guts sorry
@manyiahandret5119
3 жыл бұрын
@@zohaibhossain821 sorry i Mean guts
@bvd_vlvd
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, now I understand why Minun was so low on the electric list, below the likes of Pachirisu. Mystic doesn't understand support pokemon. He deadass put Torkoal on the list lmaooooooo
@seansch_
3 жыл бұрын
Just throwing it out there, but Torkoal is one of the top tier pokemon in VGC in the last year, how is he even on this list?
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
And in this one still good, with be apectacular, but ia far from unusable
@goGothitaLOL
3 жыл бұрын
singles format in mind, that's it and even then. Torkoal is better than Ninetales as a sun setter with actual bulk, can set up rocks, remove hazards with Rapid Spin, and even make use of it's 140 Def with Body Press the main thing Ninetales has going for it is Nasty Plot
@ethandollarhide7943
3 жыл бұрын
Despite being hotter than the sun, Magcargo just got roasted.😂😂😂
@jeffhirsh5722
3 жыл бұрын
Delphox should be like number 11 or 13 because yes it has a lot of weaknesses but it's also really fast so it can take out the competition before it's hit. also just letting you know when you where going over Delphox you put Emboar's stats and abilities instead so you should go fix that if you have a chance.
@V-Jes
3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile (regular) Charizard and Typhlosion are both weaker and slower with Typhlosion having a horrendous movepool yet neither are on the video -_-'
@MatiGra32
3 жыл бұрын
@@V-Jes at least typhlosion has eruption
@MatiGra32
3 жыл бұрын
@@V-Jes flareon should be on this list tho
@V-Jes
3 жыл бұрын
@@MatiGra32 Aand that gimmick falls flat if it gets hit by hazards, priority or pokemon with any speed higher than mediocre 100...
@banj4356
3 жыл бұрын
Read the top comment about the editing mistake.
@yetismeatis9102
3 жыл бұрын
Torkal is actually the better sun setter. It’s lower speed allows trick room use and it will set up the sun after the faster sun setter which can give an early start. Torkal also gains access to stealth rocks and rapid spin. A sun boosted eruption in trick room allows it to be a strong hitter. Ever wonder why that Torkal is used more than Ninetales in both single and double battles?
@GamingG4276
3 жыл бұрын
This is a interesting topic to get into. Also, I vote weakest Fairy types next.
@@darkscorpion-donzaloog Lol. I was just trying to trigger someone. Also, I've never seen anybody so close to me on that political compass, I literally ended up just as right, but like 2 boxes above you.
@RedDragonForce2
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s get it out of the way early: Bugs!
@LegendaryCaptain
3 жыл бұрын
On the opposite end Dragons like legit most of the worst dragons are better then the top 15 bugs 😂
@allyowancy8037
3 жыл бұрын
@@LegendaryCaptain i think there is no bad dragon type exept of course in gen 1. Probably its gonna be “top 15 worst dragon type design” rather than their base stat
@xBreezysWorldx
3 жыл бұрын
Delphox + Magician + Solar bear + Powerherb is a legitamately viable set. Switch in on a grass type, they switch into water/rock/earth type, u chunk/kill them and reap whatever item they have. A slight gamble, of course but works out more often than not and I personally think is good enough of a gimmick to carry the poke off this list entirely.
@LollyByDay
3 жыл бұрын
Why do you have such a vendetta about Delphox? It has great Sp Attack and uses that well with Fire/Physic typing. Just say you don't like its design or the X&Y games.
@graythaprince
3 жыл бұрын
He loves Foxes, was waiting for a fox starter but doesnt like Braixen and Delphox's designs
@LollyByDay
3 жыл бұрын
@@graythaprince This dude *really* called Delphox "weak" cuz he was let down by its design? Bruh
@graythaprince
3 жыл бұрын
@@LollyByDay Yeah...
@sooqible
3 жыл бұрын
Delphox literally my fav starter from XY and yes its pretty strong. I enjoy using it during my games and quite shock to figure out people don't like it.
@ShadowtheYouTuber523
3 жыл бұрын
@@sooqible I completely agree
@lisasemarron5413
3 жыл бұрын
Never knew why people hated delphox . In my opinion I always found more use out of it compared to other ootiond
@froste5909
3 жыл бұрын
Bro Torkoal could sweep u so quick with a trick room team plus it has she’ll smash which gives it insane attack stats plus white herb makes that 10x better so that’s mad disrespectful to gen 3
@conansglasses2645
3 жыл бұрын
Actually ur both wrong . Torkoal is a GOD in competitive, but not at all as an attacker, its main function is utility . Its the best weather setter in the game due to, funnily enough , its abysmal speed . You see in pokemon the order in which abilities activate is based on speed , and since torkoal is such a slow mon , drought will always activate last , this is important if you were facing off against an opposing weather setter , for example if you faced off against a pelipper with drizzle , its ability activates first and sets up rain , then rorkoals ability activates second and replaces rain with sun , this simple fact makes torkoal the best weather setter in the entire game as it guarantees that as long as torkoal is still standing, your team will be the one controlling the weather Secondly torkoal ( unlike ninetales and politoed ) is not a one trick pony and isn't an exclusive weather setter , as it gets access to stealth rock to cripple the opponents team , yawn to force a switch out , and rapid spin to remove the opposing teams hazards. Unlike ninetals which is forced to only be an attacker since it gets 0 support moves and since its really physically frail and only has a mediocre 81 special attack stats , it won't really do you any good for offense It also gets curse and body press which can deal with a lot of bulky steel types . I'm conclusion , mystic really undersold how good torkoal is , but you yourself were a bit wrong in saying that torkoal is good at trick room and offense, cause on the contrary , you ideally always want torkoal to be the slowest pokemon on the field in order to monopolize the weather
@mahfuzrahman913
3 жыл бұрын
Radical red monkeys are pretty solid with their hidden ability, sage power. It's basically special gorilla tactics, so a choice specs. This is pretty good when coupled with choice scarf or choice specs to give a MONSTER special attack.
@bronzepkmn
3 жыл бұрын
Ya but thats fan game sadly
@jenajelema
3 жыл бұрын
i am playing radical red and i CANT beat giovanni in silph co cause of that stupid excadrill
@AlexThat200
3 жыл бұрын
While I don't deny some Fire types will be "worse" in some categories, I still love them all the same. Yes, even Simisear. His derpiness is just cute to me.
@aquaffinity
3 жыл бұрын
Understandable
@donttrustnoone3921
3 жыл бұрын
@@aquaffinity Have a great day.
@allyowancy8037
3 жыл бұрын
I think simisear don’t deserve it getting hated. It may be not that good but it still do a good job of its inspiration
@danielve09
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal definetly shouldnt be here
@danielve09
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbynewman9321 I dont know its decent as well :/
@TheDragonstorm1993
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbynewman9321 nah not Charizard but I think flareon should tho
@WheelStart
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDragonstorm1993 I think talonflame should be here..I love talonflame but it sucks in play through..it only get flame charge until late of the game
@TheDragonstorm1993
3 жыл бұрын
@@WheelStart it didn't suck in gen 6 that's the bad part about it
@TheDragonstorm1993
3 жыл бұрын
Unless it was flame body talon
@othergrimm6592
3 жыл бұрын
So many errors on Delphox. Shows stats that aren't Delphox's, shows abilities that aren't Delphox's...
@blecis74
3 жыл бұрын
Magician is Delphox’s hidden ability.
@othergrimm6592
3 жыл бұрын
@@blecis74 Duh? I'm referring to 4:23, where it shows Reckless as the Hidden Ability. With the stats just a few seconds before it ALSO not matching Delphox at all.
@blecis74
3 жыл бұрын
@@othergrimm6592 right I thought maybe you missed the bit where magician was shown. My mistake.
@davyt0247
3 жыл бұрын
Frado edited the video, he put up Embore’s stars and abilities by mistake
@3.2187_Kilometres
3 жыл бұрын
The worst fire type is Heatmor because it hunts Durants and Durants are cool.
@GlazeBattleBorn
3 жыл бұрын
Based
@timr.3311
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mahfuzrahman913
3 жыл бұрын
@@GlazeBattleBorn we have a Pokemon Challenges fan. Why u commenting? The irony of commenting cringe when commenting is cringe.
@GlazeBattleBorn
3 жыл бұрын
@@mahfuzrahman913 ??????
@mahfuzrahman913
3 жыл бұрын
Haha lol jk. Wanted to see your response lmao
@mayuresh2194
3 жыл бұрын
RAPIDASH GETS MORNING SUN... A RELIABLE RECOVERY WHEN DROUGHT'S UP
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
"when drought it up"
@bronzepkmn
3 жыл бұрын
I see rapidash used ALOT
@RhapsodyHC
3 жыл бұрын
@@chendror872 It still works well without the sun. It only becomes weak in Hail, Sand, and Rain.
@BoosterUM
3 жыл бұрын
Damn. Now I'm gonna use magcargo on every team I can
@paigecee4085
3 жыл бұрын
The only Torkoal I've ever used was in an Emerald randomizer and it had Cute Charm for an ability instead of Drought. Sure, it lost the one thing that made it okay, but the novelty of a Torkoal immobilizing foes with infatuation was great.
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
Now is better than emerald
@sinnohperson8813
3 жыл бұрын
You haven't faced a nightmare called doubles trick room eruption charkoal torkoal. Torkoal is really good!!!!
@apollojustice5338
3 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting that Slugma and Maccargo aren't Hoenn Pokémon.
@allyowancy8037
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@stevenbland4035
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Flareon could be on this list, but great video as always.
@bronzepkmn
3 жыл бұрын
It not on the list because of its ability guts
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzepkmn guts is good if you not are frail AND slow and most important fire type, guts in flareon is in fact bad ability in him
@giovannimartinez9341
3 жыл бұрын
Torkaol is really good with trickroom and having a great ability like drought. In singles it is a strong sun setting rapid spinner that is bulky on the physical side. So having it even considered for a worst list is bad.
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
Is a monster in vgc, this guy get a brain fart
@jizolord69
3 жыл бұрын
Me throughout the entire video: *FLAREON FLAREON FLAREON FLAREON FLAREON!!!*
@megabladechronicles962
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he should have taken magmortar or torkoal off for flareon
@alexw-_-4187
3 жыл бұрын
Flareon? Based 130 atac' Guts Nice special defens and nice enough moves. Its not the Best but he doesn't deserve Be in the top i think :U IT is my favorito of all the eevee
@megabladechronicles962
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexw-_-4187 guts is a terrible ability considering that flareon is immune to burns
@justtkrl
3 жыл бұрын
@@megabladechronicles962 it can use toxic orb to get the guts boost. So boosted flare blitz can put out some insane damage. But It’s low speed means it’s really only good as a wallbreaker and magmortar might be a bit better overall at that, as it has better defense and speed. If flareon is top ten worst it’s probably number 10 or so IMO
@megabladechronicles962
3 жыл бұрын
@@justtkrl toxic orb is a terrible item for guts because toxic poison gets stronger every turn, flareon wouldn’t be able to stay on the field to do any worth while damage when it’s hp is drained from poison and thanks to its terrible defenses. Flareon is awful
@Lolo-st5bs
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe do the fairy type next. It'd be interesting to see what pokemon would be the weakest of the strongest type.
@sand747
3 жыл бұрын
Xerneas and Glorges 100%
@sreenaths6829
3 жыл бұрын
Probably Wigglytuff?
@blazinglightgt8673
3 жыл бұрын
Pyroar should've benefited from the Meowstic treatment except the male would be Physical and the female be Special.
@anarchistangel2314
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, other way around. Look at that glorious mane; that is not the mane of a melee fighter
@gioanysgonzalez3396
3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that Flareon is not on the list. It’s defense and speed are terrible and it’s move set isn’t really that good. It’s really sad because it’s my second favorite eeveelution.
@williammcintosh5204
3 жыл бұрын
Flareon is okay in competitive though, flame charge with toxic orb and guts and you can easily get a couple KOs
@Elitus
3 жыл бұрын
Aye man don't say anything about my cute fire fox
@Elitus
3 жыл бұрын
Aye man don't say anything about my cute and fluffy fire fox, cat or dog!?
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
@@williammcintosh5204 false, is untiered and doesnt see use in hige ladder of VGC, only see it like a meme pick
@williammcintosh5204
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertoalexandermendezmore408 Doesn’t get used in high tier henceforth “okay” not god tier pokémon lol definitely better than nearly all on this list (bar Torkoal) It’s a fun pokémon that has a niche that can be used, and it’s usually the dark horse on my eevee teams
@Muddeth63
3 жыл бұрын
If it ain’t 100% accurate, it’s 50% accurate
@andysnider6984
3 жыл бұрын
Quiet, Mikey.
@neilbryanbucsit197
3 жыл бұрын
Good to see that more and more people are recognizing Emboar's power
@CydaEu
3 жыл бұрын
I would honestly put Typhlosion in the list, like Eruption is great, but Solar beam and Extrasensory for coverage? Just terrible. + Typhlosion is really restricted to playing choiced items to work well. And if the Oricorio forms get to be on the list, then maybe include Silvally-Fire. When have we ever seen it do work?
@connerrock1164
3 жыл бұрын
Huh, I’m quite surprised Flareon isn’t on here.
@gabrielleleasure5949
3 жыл бұрын
Have you SEEN it’s physical Attack?? If you can find the proper Fire type moves for it it’s a beast
@6ix_Wins
3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielleleasure5949 speed is bad, hp is 65, and defense is only 60. I would say it’s meh or bad
@ronswanson7371
3 жыл бұрын
😡
@sreenaths6829
3 жыл бұрын
He definitely deserves to be in here. Maybe Mystic is biased towards eeveelutions.
@matthewkuscienko4616
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal and Magmortar shouldn't have been on this list, and in their places should've been Flareon and Typhlosion instead.
@ashelygordon669
3 жыл бұрын
I wished that certain Fire Pokémon like Pyroar were honestly better and I guess Hyper beam is a option for special attacking normal types but still, I wish it could of been buffed in some way.
@suryave
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is a way better sun setter than ninetales.
@jenajelema
3 жыл бұрын
facts cause ninatales is trash
@pokeben0525
3 жыл бұрын
Mistake in Delphox stats? Those look more like Emboar stats than anything
@SS-ig9lj
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and ability. Emboar worst starter confirmed?
@laxusstrauss5945
3 жыл бұрын
@@SS-ig9lj emboar was banned from NU in gen 7 Typhlosion delphox and base Charizard are weaker competitively
@kannan07
3 жыл бұрын
@@SS-ig9lj he was saying about it's stats just showed emboar
@jenajelema
3 жыл бұрын
@@SS-ig9lj emboar is pretty good
@crawdaddy2004
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is really good right now in the Doubles format - Trick Room is a thing.
@dollz8957
3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in gen 5 I was so at aw over heatmor I used my master ball on him, he was perfect in every way
@shadowflamegaming5598
3 жыл бұрын
These are my guesses before watching the video: Simisear, Heatmor, Emboar, Typhlosion, Delphox, Oricorio-Fire, Magcargo, Ninetales, Houndoom and Pyroar. Also Flareon.
@ojnopulp4563
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Typhlosion, Houndoom and Ninetails are great pokemon to use. All 3 are very useful and all 3 have great stats. Plus Mega Houndoom is badass
@bvd_vlvd
3 жыл бұрын
@@ojnopulp4563 Houndoom is probably in top 15 weakest and Typhlosion is one of 5 weakest no doubt. Ninetales gets drought so it's probably in top 10/top 15
@yaboidragonitehere1137
3 жыл бұрын
Houndoom is good, Typhlosion is great, and Ninetales is a bad one because of its shallow movepool, because it learns fire moves
@yaboidragonitehere1137
3 жыл бұрын
Only
@laxusstrauss5945
2 жыл бұрын
@@yaboidragonitehere1137 i mean typhlosion is even outclassed by delphox and magmortar competetively lmao it is far from being good it sucks sadly
@Vallite_God
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal is a freaking great mon, very ironic seeing it on this list!
@mr.cookies7173
3 жыл бұрын
99 speed pokemon Mystic:this is trash 🗑 100 speed pokemon Mystic:omg so strong 💪
@RhapsodyHC
3 жыл бұрын
His logic is just trash. Torkoal and Mega Camerupt are far better than Simisear and Delphox competitively.
@doctorpool273
3 жыл бұрын
I think Flareon is worse than Magmortar. Also Heatmor does have a very nice shiny
@JacksontheSwordsman
3 жыл бұрын
Are you being biased on not adding Flareon on the list? I love the Eeveelutions with a passion, Leafeon being my favorite. However, Flareon is just bad, though not as bad as Glaceon. It has a very limited movepool, with Flare Blitz as its best, and other moves like Superpower, Iron Tail, Dig, and a priority Quick Attack being its best diverse moves, the stat spread is pretty bad, with that horrible Speed, physical Defense, and HP, and while Guts is an incredible hidden ability, that can make it work with a Toxic Orb, other Pokémon who are faster than its base 65 Speed, packing moves like Stone Edge or Earthquake, can take it out before it even has a chance to let loose that power. And because it’s physical Attack is so much higher than Special, the only use I had for that stat was just to unleash an Overheat on physical walls. Other than that, Flareon is pretty bad.
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
Good point
@majesticgothitelle1802
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they really need to make more physical fire-type move
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
@@majesticgothitelle1802 same with electric type moves
@majesticgothitelle1802
3 жыл бұрын
@@chendror872 here some few fire & electric type moves. Fire moves Flare jump flip. Torch tail. Blame paw. Fiery slam / fiery ram Electric moves Zap headbutt. Electro chop. Tase jab.
@taeslilclown9801
3 жыл бұрын
Glaceon’s better than Flareon tho? Bad typing aside, it’s a really strong hitter with decent defenses. Can’t say the same for Flareon especially with its move pool
@macwelch8599
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a Pokémon trainer in Unova would bypass the Starter Pokémon and got all three Unova Elemental Monkeys instead
@macwelch8599
3 жыл бұрын
@PANG HSIEN LOONG Moe they are
@6ix_Wins
3 жыл бұрын
Lol that’s what I’m going to do when I get black, I’m going to get all the because cuz I like them even though they are hated.
@macwelch8599
3 жыл бұрын
@@6ix_Wins good for you
@NerdMania2000
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I actually really like torkoal 😂😂
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbynewman9321 you're literally comparing ninetales nowadays to torkoal "at some point"
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbynewman9321 I never said ninetales is good (I love it but it's bad) I just said it's not fair to compare between the 2 in different times
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbynewman9321 I never said I don't believe you you're missing my point
@elisha7231
3 жыл бұрын
@@chendror872 Your wrong, he didnt compare ninetails now to torkoal at some point, they where both compared at their peaks
@jenajelema
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbynewman9321 ninetes is trash
@Darker1607
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this list but not Torkoal. Torkoal is really good in VGC. It's been like top 3 most used firetypes. ATM he is at 11% usage. But he was used alot more before the dlc.
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
Was ou before crown tundra
@goGothitaLOL
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertoalexandermendezmore408 and being NU is better than being untired like Ninetales Torkoal blew Ninetales outta the picture
@agames2112
3 жыл бұрын
I think steel, fairy or dragon, because those are the types people put most highly so that would be interesting
@eduardobarros3986
3 жыл бұрын
Torkoal can set up sun and that's enough to make people consider it at lower tiers. There's nothing attractive or worthwhile for Simisear that makes it better than the turtle.
@robertoalexandermendezmore408
3 жыл бұрын
Dude this guy got a brain fart, torkoal is far from bad pokemon in fact was and is very used
@KK-ku4rd
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Delphox was my signature starter Pokemon for some time before I switched to Primarina, with Cinderace or Greninja being temporary alternatives.
@KK-ku4rd
3 жыл бұрын
Delphox will still be one of my favourite Pokemon though. I would include it into my starter themed party with Primarina, Torterra, Venusaur, Greninja and either Cinderace or Inteleon
@Beachfiend_
3 жыл бұрын
You need to watch some VGC videos before some of these evaluations
@chendror872
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair that's always a good idea
@banj4356
3 жыл бұрын
Which entry is this in context to?
@Beachfiend_
3 жыл бұрын
@@banj4356 Torkoal
@shadowdragonlord2295
3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of doing a video on the best type or types for each game/region?
@esmo9728
3 жыл бұрын
torkoal is definitely the best sun setter that isnt a legendary he shouldnt even be on the list he had rapid spin, rocks, and can eat physical hits, its lack luster special def stat is whatever when u can pivot into a good specially defensive mons specially when he's enabling sun
@WheelStart
3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't get drought in the older game which is sucks
@esmo9728
3 жыл бұрын
@@WheelStart hes talking about the pokemon in their newest game otherwise camerupt wouldnt be on their
@Zack-2-Attack
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Delphox is actually my first starter and my first Pokemon EVER that I chose when I played through Pokemon Y, my first Pokemon game I ever owned.
@TheGrizz57
3 жыл бұрын
Magmortar is my favorite fire type. I love the whole evolution line, but magmortar is the best one for me.
@misterzygarde6431
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure more people would like Magmortar if it had a Mega form. Also they should've given Magcargo an evolution in Gen 4
@ultimapower6950
Жыл бұрын
I have an idea to buff Magcargo Abillity changes Magma armor -> Evaporation(new ability) Weak armor -> Simple Base stat buffs HP: +60 Sp Atk: +10 Sp Def: +15 Spe: +10 New BST total 525 Evaporation makes the user and allied adjacent pokemon both immune to water type moves as well as making fire type moves super effective against water type Pokémon. If it’s raining when the abillity activates then the rain will stop Edith gave Magcargo it’s own unique ability
@TerribleTake
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely like magmortar way more then Magmar, actually magmar is one of my least favorite designed Pokémon while magmortar is one of my favorite and I’m an OG gen 1 fan
@a-ash666
3 жыл бұрын
I think this can be awesome series and it would good to go in same way how strongest went.
@dylanblade9078
3 жыл бұрын
Delphox can steal if it lost focus sash I used it and it stole the opponent's leftovers.
@andrethebreadsecretary3484
3 жыл бұрын
Cover the worst of the worst: the ice type If you have already then my bad
@thatman666
3 жыл бұрын
Really because to him Bug is the worst typing
@scottj2895
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to make it my mission to make Magcargo great in my team. Can't wait to see the next list.
@risingshadow9487
3 жыл бұрын
Macargo also gets thrown into the dump. Simisear: OMG YASSS ANOTHER FRAND WOOO
@jedimasterforrecrezz71
3 жыл бұрын
Am I supposed to believe that sun form Castform isn't on the list?
@jedimasterforrecrezz71
3 жыл бұрын
@COOPER PENNINGTON that's the only logical explanation I can think of, because the thing if definitely trash when compared to at least half of the list
@ALDO_GOODENS
3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe he did that Melvin... On his birthday no less!
@crowmii5212
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t bully my man magcargo. They had to nerf him or else he would be as hot as the sun canonically
@sinnohperson8813
3 жыл бұрын
Thermodynamically its possible to have 1800 degree celsius
@himarik4609
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s see what bullshit list Mystic comes up with again
@Dante...
3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about heatmor is it's shiny.
@Spottedstorm27
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. One of the best shinies and it's wasted on heatmor. Ouch.
@augustuscaesar8287
3 жыл бұрын
Nah. The best thing about it is it's exhaust pipe asshole.
@galvsparks6295
3 жыл бұрын
4:18 ah yes I remember when delphox had emboar’s stats
@banj4356
3 жыл бұрын
Read the top comment about this.
@isaiah7985
3 жыл бұрын
Simisear has the same stat model as infernape it’s total is just less by 36 points
@krookking2237
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. 2 things I would do is replace Magmortar for Flareon, which is just bad with its non existent movepool, terrible bulk physically, and slow. And Torkoal being replaced for Nientales. Nientales is inferior to Torkoal as a sun setter since Torkoal has actual bulk, can set hazards, and remove them with Rapid Spin, and can make use of the 140 defense with Body Press, which is a blessing for Torkoal.
@SS-ig9lj
3 жыл бұрын
nah, at least Flareon has Guts and Facade Also, Ninetails gets Nasty Plot which is a huge thing
@101Youfail
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Delphox here hurts. That’s one of my faves.
@perritoshido5845
3 жыл бұрын
The stats he sword were Emboars though..... Delphox stats are: HP: 75 ATTACK: 69 DEFENSE: 72 SP. ATTACK: 114 SP. DEFENSE: 100 SPEED: 104 Although not the best special sweeper, it’s definitely far from bad with that good speed and special attack so I think it shouldn’t be on this list. Plus it’s got good cover with fire moves, psychic, shadow ball, calm mind, grass knot, dazzling gleam, and a lot of support moves that can be taken advantage of thanks to its good speed
@creaser9749
3 жыл бұрын
Heyo, first I’ll juxtapose saying I love the list, however I do feel that torkoal should find itself higher due to its usage in a trick room team!
@45TRANSFORMERSFAN
3 жыл бұрын
This was quite a brutal list, so I'm gonna get me some more popcorn for the rest of the types. Keep up the good work!
@cyberjack4757
3 жыл бұрын
I really wished Rapidash was better it's just so cool and majestic it's without a doubt one one of my favorite fire types and same with the alt from it's one of my favorite psychic types. Damn shame all it is.
@segunthepikachufan1470
3 жыл бұрын
Lol Flannery's Torkoal was something else
@thenerdbeast7375
3 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna go physical on your Magmortar, you might as well use Magmar as their attack stats are the same and Magmar has better speed.
@Poka_the_Phantom
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the Number 5 entry, I was really sad to see it cuz it was my first shiny I've ever caught.
@leozyxs
3 жыл бұрын
Magcargo was one of my favorite Pokemons, I always thought it was interesting and using one on my HG playthrough was the worst decision I made, I didn't know it was SO bad
@ivanvillarreal7436
3 жыл бұрын
I like Heatmor. I treasure the 6 IV Shiny I got.
@dragonobsessive
3 жыл бұрын
I like Heatmor, but I can't deny that it sucks at battle.
@codeyrogers2376
3 жыл бұрын
I love your content, though I really disagree with Torkoal being on this list or even near it :( I say this because I feel you maybe don’t know what’s accomplished? And for fun! No judgment! Your opinion is your own but When you look at it from a VGC history standpoint and From a team building standpoint it’s an amazing anchor to both Sun teams and Trick room teams which have long been a very meta defining strategy regardless of the format. And this ignores that due to Torkoals own existence a new meta defining team Strategy called Sun-room was popularized and is one of the most if not the most dominant and defining team strategy’s in all of VGC. Cheers
@wanderingandwhistling
3 жыл бұрын
I saw this after I swept a team of banned Legends with my Shiny Kantonian Rapidash and laughed so hard when Rapidash came up on this list.
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