I’m so sad to hear the Electric Lizard never saw any competitive play, next thing you’re going to tell me is that Swordsman From A Distant Land Beatdown is not a viable strategy
@akitoemery8651
2 жыл бұрын
That’s such a good card that I’ve never even heard of it before 💀
@michaelhall736
2 жыл бұрын
Swordsman From a Distant Land is great in Duelist of the Roses.
@TheLaGangjShow
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhall736 In Duelist of the Roses*** 😂
@michaelhall736
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLaGangjShow What? That game is great.
@TheLaGangjShow
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhall736 I wasn’t criticizing Duelist of the Roses I was pointing out that Swordsman from a Distant Land is great card in Duelist of the Roses but in the actually TCG it stinks. I wish Konami would rerelease that title alongside Forbidden Memories, Falsebond Kingdom, and even the GBA titles
@tdarkhorse4
2 жыл бұрын
i'd like to toss out as an honorable mention the immortal of thunder, also in metal raiders. it has a flip effect where you gain 3000 lp but then when it's sent from the field to the graveyard you lose 5000. even back in the day, most things that would attack into its 1500/1300 stat line would be killing it, so it's a straight up minus 2k instantly. there are ways to get around that even back then, particularly penguin soldier, but that requires both surviving face down together for 2 turns total. even with swords and mirror force that wasn't super likely.
@j0j0dartiste21
2 жыл бұрын
I tried to test if it could be used as a cheap way to burn an opponent in duel links by giving it to the opponent, but the effect is still pretty strictly "YOU (the person who owns the card) lose 5000 LP". Since it's also an LP loss, you can't even use it to boost yourself with D/D/D Jean D'arc or with prime material dragon.
@Hclody95
2 жыл бұрын
the card has topped a SJC event back in the day, was a decent combo with macro cosmos since you get the bad eff only when he goes to grave but not when its banished
@asweknowit123
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like at least with immortal of thunder instant fusion thundra builds can make use of it. Despite how awful it is. Ofc that means it isn't very good in the current tcg tho E: MY B I completely remembered the wrong monster. I take back what I say. got immortal of thunder mixed with kaminari attack. Should've finished the vid first XD
@alonsoarana5307
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hclody95 hello MBT
@tdarkhorse4
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hclody95 i didn't think of that but i feel like that still speaks to it being terrible bc you need something amazing like MC to make it meh. pure lp gain isn't particularly good and plenty combos better with MC
@MasterofLaziness
2 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember thinking 2-Pronged Attack was bad back when I was 7. Good to see I was right about most of these cards being bad even back in the day. Also, with Crass Clown and Dream Clown having some good effects, it pains me that Bickuribox doesn't have the combined effect of "change position = kill". It does bother me that Gate Guardian is so bad, though, as he was a poster boy of the old game. That thing needs a retrain badly.
@lynxfresh5214
2 жыл бұрын
Raigeki Break is pretty much a better Two Pronged Attack in every way.
@scantyer
2 жыл бұрын
Bickuribox needs a fucking toon retrain so bad and some effect too 😭
@thatman666
2 жыл бұрын
@@scantyer Nah, Dark Rabbit deserves the retrain more.
@NitroNEXT
2 жыл бұрын
It had situational use. I remember using it to help get out Theinen the Great Sphinx by destroying Andro and Teleia at the same time, along with an opponent's monster. It's outclassed by Torrential Tribute, Dark Hole and other similar cards though.
@morganwithaneevee246
2 жыл бұрын
I remember back when I was a noob I would use two-pronged attack to trigger starlight road. Still a bad combo, but it was stuff like that that makes me love yugioh.
@DoofSenpai
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my friends and I would build random decks just for fun. He tried so badly to make the stupid cocoon thing work, but even with banned cards in his deck and plenty of negating/stalling cards it was still too easy to disrupt the combo.
@RosieAnims
2 жыл бұрын
What I think is the biggest shame about fusionist is that it might be one of my actual favourite designs for a fusion. I like how it kind of shows off visually what a fusion actually is (two monsters basically smushed together), as opposed to something else that borrows design elements from 2 monsters.
@eavyeavy2864
Жыл бұрын
No ot isnt
@0f128
2 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss the artwork on some of the older cards when there weren't that many archetypes. I stopped playing around 5ds era I wonder how bad its now ?
@Heyhowsitgoin999
2 жыл бұрын
Almost everything is a robot, dragon, or robot dragon
@jayclearmen411
2 жыл бұрын
yeah the older primary artwork/style was best. Every once in a while i’ll see a card that takes me back an I’ll be reminded of simpler but good times like Zoa electric snake kotodama Ansatsu tri horn dragon seiaryu zera the mant exile of the wicked, dragon seeker swordstalker Performance of swords garma sword oldies but goodies..now everything is all lolli waifu mecha
@finaldivine8235
2 жыл бұрын
Or waifu
@slmjkdbtl
2 жыл бұрын
Yes there are robot dragon waifu anime boy girl archetypes but there's more interesting ones, there's an archetype about an army of sentient instruments, giant mystic stone statue, secret underground society, killer stuffed animals, robot school supplies, racing cars and atheletes, cryptids, doodled dinosaurs, frogs (except frog the jam), raccoons, planes. I actually don't actively play the game anymore just admire the good arts and ideas. I like the old art too but mostly the weird ones like Tatsunootoshigo and Tyhone 2
@juanpablouriascruz1411
2 жыл бұрын
Kaminari attack was on the Very first pack I ever opened (metal Raiders). Who would have thought it would see competitive play!
@SoloShyguy
2 жыл бұрын
The commentary really hit me when he said the benefit from shuffling your deck includes……nothing 😂
@SLatios
2 жыл бұрын
I've been into Yu-Gi-Oh for 20 years and never ever noticed that Elegant Egotist had faces in it
@skyknighteman7022
2 жыл бұрын
If I may make a suggestion: the other day I was thinking that I hadn't read the flavor text on the Rice Suship card. So I looked it up and was shocked to discover that it was a wall of text. It got me thinking, which other normal monster cards have crazy long flavor text? And which one has the longest? Is it Rice Suship, or is there another one with even more. And yes I know there are pendulum normal monsters so should you decide to make this top ten of normal monsters which have the longest flavor text, I'll add an extra rule that no pendulum monsters are allowed because that would make it too easy.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
2 жыл бұрын
14:24 Honestly surprised there was never modern Gate Guardian support or reworking released after all this time, and I have a pitch for some of it: Have Gate Guardian be a main deck Pendulum Monster (so it can exist in the main OR extra deck), with level 8 or 9 pendulum arrows to make it easier to summon it’s proper components It could be an even 3750 ATK/DEF, be a tuner, and have the effect adjusted to be special summonable (from the hand or graveyard) first by sending it’s classic materials from the field, OR banishing them from the graveyard, to summon it And it has the following effects: _Must first be special summoned (from the hand or graveyard) by tributing "Sanga of the Thunder", "Kazejin", and "Suijin", and if you do this card gains the following effects: Thrice per turn, this card cannot be destroyed or affected by battle or card effects. This monster can attack an additional two times a turn, and durning damage calculation (Quick Effect), any monster this card battles has its ATK/DEF reduced to 0. Once per turn, at the end of your turn, you may return this card to you hand to special summon "Sanga of the Thunder", "Kazejin", and "Suijin" from your graveyard._ And the pendulum effect could be _Once per turn, if you control no monsters on your side of the field, you may normal or special summon one “Labyrinth Wall” and/or “Wall Shadow” in defense position from your hand or deck. While “Labyrinth Wall” is on your side of the field, once per turn at the beginning of your turn, you may declare that monsters require one less or more tribute to summon. Once per turn, when you have a LIGHT, WIND, AND WATER attribute monster on the field each, you may tribute them to special/normal summon "Sanga of the Thunder", "Kazejin", and "Suijin" from your hand or graveyard, and if you do, add this card to your hand._
@jayclearmen411
2 жыл бұрын
NICE this has lots of potential.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayclearmen411 I didn’t overpower or overbalance it, did I?
@parkouremaster
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i would love pumpking support, i dunno i liked the art and was an absolute beast in forbidden memories/duelist of the roses, the only places it saw "competitive play"
@Hugelag
2 жыл бұрын
I have some list suggestions of you don't mind: Top 10 fusion support cards. Top 10 generic pendulum cards. Top 10 "trap" cards. (Cards that seem good at first glance but aren't really that good. Top 10 parody cards. Top 10 cards based on other Konami games. Top 10 special conditions in the games. More Rescue Rabbit, please.
@MsLoquendo20
Жыл бұрын
The only reason why I remember the existence of Blast Juggler is because it was obligatory material to ritual summon the dark magician of chaos in Forbiden Memories...which isn't better because ritual summon in such game was an awful mechanic
@litna-syxx
7 ай бұрын
I dunno, back around 2011-2013, I ran a zombie deck when a support deck came out for them, and used a LOT of the older zombie cards, along with pumpking and a few CoDI cards, and destroyed some friends in some duels. It was a double edged sword though, because if Zombie World wasn't out, it was harder to get those points set up correctly.
@patrickrocheleau8185
2 жыл бұрын
Great moth being bad is funny because on a gameboy advanced yugioh game it was one of the best cards in the game, there was no timers involved you just used cuccoons effect to saccrifice it for a great moth, then on the next turn use great moths effect to sacrifice it for a ultimate great moth
@Kawaiisikkusu
2 жыл бұрын
Gate guardian is the best target of Fusion summoning "Elemental Hero Neos Knight" if you want the Fusion got a huge Atk boost.
@MaZeW1
2 жыл бұрын
I remember people tried to play Gate Guardian in an UFOroid Fighter OTK, when UFOroid Fighter was released. UFOroid Fighter is a machine-type fusion monster that uses "UFOroid" and a Warrior Type monster and had effect that its ATK was the combined ATK of its fusion materials. So people looked for the highest ATK Warrior-type monster available, which happened to be Gate Guardian. Goal was to Fusion Summon UFOroid Fighter with Powerbond and then attack into a weak monster (or direct) with its 9900 ATK (1200 ATK from UFOroid, 3750 ATK from Gate Guardian, doubled by Powerbond) for the win.
@arceuslord1365
2 жыл бұрын
I've got an idea for a video: good combos you may not see coming. My sister has a four Trap Card combo that is pretty good. 1. Magical Thorn - deals 500 damage whenever your opponent discards from their hand. 2. Robbin' Goblin - if your monster inflicts damage, one of your opponent's cards are discarded. 3. Coffin Seller - inflicts 300 damage any time your opponent's monsters are sent to the graveyard. 4. Needle Wall, which has a chance to destroy one card in your opponent's main monster zones.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
2 жыл бұрын
That combo is pretty bad though, sorry.
@sagacious03
2 жыл бұрын
12:00 You could run say, Convulsion of Nature or such so that you know your top card. Then Shuffling is KINDA worthwhile. But even then, Tainted Wisdom is still trash. 13:37 Lol, was that "if you desire" a reference to the text "in any order you desire" of Yado Karu's text? Anyway, nice & fun analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@pnealiv7443
4 ай бұрын
It'd be really cool to see a "tainted" archetype full of cards with broken effects that only go off when your deck is shuffled. Imagine how cool cards with names like "Tainted Hope" and "Tainted Charity" would look 🤯
@sirswagabadha4896
2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that pumpking sucked so hard as a card, since it was god-tier in most of the early yugioh games that ignored the tcg rules. In duelists of the roses it was the best card in the game against passive opponents, since you could just infinitely buff all your zombies and use certain tech cards to make all your monsters be treated as zombies for that effect. In capsule monster coliseum, it was already dark so benefitted from one of the best stats/symbol buffs in the game, and also had really good attack range for such a powerful monster. Even in forbidden memories it was a good fusion in the early game before you had consistent access to twin headed thunder dragon or meteor black dragon
@maxberry7908
2 жыл бұрын
The running gag of bringing up La Jinn is peak comedy imo XD
@ZyroShadowPony
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the cocoon of evolution got reworked into its own archetype. Bring in some spell or trap cards for a bit pf protection, searchability and maybe even pass turns so instead of waiting 4 turns with a spell card you could really just wait 1 instead or make instantaneous.
@donovanbradford8231
2 жыл бұрын
Some of these cards and given how bad there effects were because they were tied to specific characters from the anime which predated the card game. Harpy Lady Sisters, Pumpking, Castle of Dark Illusions, and Great Moth are solid examples if this. Because Harpy Ladies were staple cards for Mia who was a regular in the series. Where as Gate Guardian was used in a tag team match so it made more sense for two characters in a non traditional match with no tribute summons to use these. Vs Great Moth who had these turn limits before summoning as a way to build the drama of the episode. Then you have Pumpking and Castle of Illusion which were used in decks that played to the cards strengths. Sych Bones used an all zombie deck so a card that could boost other zombies was useful in the anime it just did it every turn. Vs Castle which was in a fiend deck to boost their abilities. But a fun video either way.
@sloesty
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, shuffling your deck is useful when they put parasites in your deck and you are about to draw one. In duel links we had a skill that put parasites in, and for a short while, it was a deck i dealt with frequently, even on the cusps of king of games (kog was just harpies at the time) I would always try to have a search or a shuffle ready for when a parasite showed up
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
2 жыл бұрын
Still in regular yugioh parasite was never used and even if it were, Tainted Wisdom is probably the worst deck shuffler in the game.
@Delimon007
Жыл бұрын
Use a deck searching card instead, it still shuffles your deck for you.
@jeweledmoon5567
2 жыл бұрын
As a Harpie player that first entry hits real close to home.
@Agno97xD
2 жыл бұрын
We run sealed tournaments me and my friends, and two pronged attack actually carried me during the first 3 packs
@sebarsht12
2 жыл бұрын
I saw what you did, Mr. TheDuelLogs, you recently did Top 10 Worst Classic Cards on your Hearthstone channel. 2 cool lists from 2 games I enjoy.
@HaydenX
2 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of surprised you didn't bring up the fact that Cocoon of Evolution is actually the best card in its "archetype". Having 2k defense was passable on its own at the time. I would also definitely argue that Electric Lizard is marginally better than Blast Juggler as its effect is likely to go off, and it is technically a better beater than Blast Juggler.
@StealthHalberd01
2 жыл бұрын
Pumpking is not THAT bad for the first couple of sets. I love playing Pumpking zombie decks in critter format. It's a super fun deck. Bummed to hear it get bashed on when there are not that many weird strats you can do in the first few sets.
@OmnicidalClown1992
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who started playing Yu-Gi-Oh since the game was introduced in America, and am one of those people who love Fusion Monsters, it still astounds me that Konami thought that they thought Fusionist was a good idea for a card. I mean, if I were in charge, I'd give Fusionist an effect to make it slightly more useful. Maybe have an effect where you can return a Polymerization cards from your Graveyard, and it can be a Fusion Substitute Card and if it was used as a Fusion Material, the Fused Monster would gain both a power boost and an immunity effect, where it's unaffected by all of you opponent's card effects.
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
2 жыл бұрын
0:07 Which is Pot Of Greed?
@denisskenderovic3707
2 жыл бұрын
I have never in my life played Yu Gi Oh (at least not by the proper rules!) and but somehow your top 10 videos started popping up in my feed and now I use your top 10's to fall asleep. Cheers!
@Chris-lw5mw
5 ай бұрын
Yado Karu has a special place in my heart because it saved me from an empty deck and caused my brother to lose to no deck. It was the most satisfying "REEEE" of my childhood.
@Xman60014
2 жыл бұрын
First, also keep up the amazing content
@MSLMGamer
2 жыл бұрын
second
@Bezaliel13
2 жыл бұрын
I still like Main Deck monsters. Of course, they would now need to impossibly OP to competee with OP ED bosses now. Also, could have mentioned the Fusions, like Cybersaurus.
@maumee22
Жыл бұрын
According to ocg rulings, you can still summon great moth even after the fourth turn. "Counting the turn in which "Petit Moth" was equipped with "Cocoon of Evolution" as the first turn, if 4 or more turns have passed, you can Special Summon this card by Tributing "Petit Moth". (Even if 5 or 6 turns have passed, you can still Special Summon "Great Moth".)[1]"
@crazychristopher1989
2 жыл бұрын
Griggle: It's a Level 1 Plant monster with an effect that when you transfer it to your opponent's side of the field while faced up ON the field, you gain 3000 Life Points.
@smolmozi7917
2 жыл бұрын
"Top 10 archetypes most restricted in the banlist" Zoo and Dragon Rulers have 3 bans each. I wonder which deck is the most restricted right now.
@Hero_of_Comedy
2 жыл бұрын
Rewatching your vid on the most and least represented types in Yugioh gave me some ideas for new video suggestions. The top ten archetypes made of muptiple monster-types The top ten archetypes made of a single monster-type. The top ten monsters that support a type that is not their own. (example, Prickle fairy is a Plant-type, but is Insect-support)
@GeminiTasiri
2 жыл бұрын
I am honestly surprised that they never tried to revisit Gate Guardian as an archetype. Feels like the perfect setup to add some XYZ cards to because that essentially seems what OG Gate Guardian was going for. Smh Konami wants to erase the Paradox Brothers from Duel Monsters history
@arianmehana5963
Жыл бұрын
Boy, do I have some news for you 🤣
@GeminiTasiri
Жыл бұрын
@@arianmehana5963 I saw! Hahahahaha, what a coincidence
@MKRCinema
2 жыл бұрын
I never knew about ultra cacoon of evolution 🤯 Poor Weevil's cards were so useless they even tried to help the man out after all these years 😭😭🤣
@reaemishi2278
6 ай бұрын
Tainted Wisdom is an extremely powerful card...if you learned a few of the basic basic card tricks you can pick up in your average street magic primer. That's why it's "tainted" wisdom. It requires dubious morals to unlock it's full power. It can turn any player into a Yu-Gi-Oh early season villain.
@BrandonKellogg22
2 ай бұрын
I like the Petit Moth version from Yugioh the Sacred Cards. If you played it and manage to protect it, the very next turn it becomes Larvae Moth. One more turn and it becomes Cocoon of Evolution. One turn later it becomes Great Moth. Finally one more turn and it becomes Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth. That would be WAY better if that were its real effect.
@deathstinger13
Жыл бұрын
Two pronged attack these days could have some niche use, but mainly from the fact that it specifically destroys your monsters, as there are some effects that need the monsters to be destroyed, but don't care who does it. Probably better options though Likewise, Pumpking could have had SOME mild use after pyramid turtle was introduced, since that can summon any zombie with 2k or less defense, and Pumpking has exactly 2k...but you're still gonna have a rough time getting it out and using it to its full potential since it won't be coming out until the battle phase, and you'll need to flip castle too. And then protect both for 4ish turns. And in return you get, based on a very quick estimation...a 3300 attack beatstick. Just play blue-eyes.
@ProductionsFromBeyon
2 жыл бұрын
Pumpking, the King of Ghosts is my favorite/most nostalgic card of all time. I have a fairly well turned kitchen table zombie tribal with Pumpking. Doesn’t even run castle
@justinrazon7200
2 жыл бұрын
I never complain or point out things on these videos because usually Mr. Logs is always on point on these things. But this is the first time I will point out something. Not to say that it's wrong, I just want to know the thought process on it. Why is Yado Karou in #3 when it's clearly better than Fusionist firstly because you can treat Yado Karou as a non-effect monster and just play it in face down position to at least benefit from that 1700. Second, it doesn't lose you card advantage for playing it. And for the opponent to even "take advantage" of the effect, they have to change it's battle position twice in order for them to force the effect if for some reason the effect is so bad for you.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
2 жыл бұрын
Arguably since fusionist is a fusion monster you'd at least special summon it and gain a tribute material. Which is still hilariously bad, you'd use 3 cards from your hand just for a tribute material, but still it has more potential that a low stat monster with a technicially negative effect.
@itachi-kun7736
2 жыл бұрын
If Konami prints Gate Guardian support cards, he wouldn't be this bad
@chrispambo1539
2 жыл бұрын
They gave us fusion, Synchro or XYZ retrains of most of the iconic monsters of the same era so they don't really have an excuse for THE one who could easily benefit from it...
@itachi-kun7736
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrispambo1539 nah, they should have made a structure deck for Gate Guardian its easily one of the most iconic monsters out there, it needs more protection but konami wants more DM & DMG support cards and ignoring the old cards that needed
@volkswagenginetta
2 жыл бұрын
tainted wisdom has 1 hypothetical benefit. parasite paracide if you see it is the next card at the top of your deck and you have 800 life points left, you can change its battle position to shuffle the deck to save yourself. that is about it
@micahperoulis
Жыл бұрын
Also I was always under the impression that the release of Harpie Lady #2 and #3 was in a sense the retrain for Harpie Lady Sisters as #2 and #3 were in the original card.
@WingedEspeon
Жыл бұрын
Pumpkin the king of ghost was one my first Yu-Gi-Oh cards. It was so bad I got it for free from another kid on the bus on the way home along with another 22 cards. Two pronged attack was another of those cards.
@justmoody2072
2 жыл бұрын
TheDuelLogs: *mentioned Tainted Wisdom Me: why is my brain starting to play upbeat song?
@MrMWorks
Жыл бұрын
3- could work in a Gladiator Beast Deck if one of the cards you want to special summon at the end of a turn in in your hand rather than your deck. I guess that's a big theme of the older bunch, later cards could use them in interesting ways.
@melvinshine9841
2 жыл бұрын
A little surprised Jigen Bakudan's trash ass didn't make the list, but this is some steep competition. Almost want to suggest a Top 10 Cards That Weren't Playable On Release, but the only card I know of that fits that criteria is Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon, since it needs Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon yet Shining Dragon came out in the TCG first. Dark Magician Girl came out before Magician of Black Chaos, so you couldn't get her max attack power but you could still use Dark Magician Girl.
@commoncollector713
2 жыл бұрын
I feel very targeted...I love all of these cards hahaha! Super fun to see these in a list
@765infinity
2 жыл бұрын
A good test for classic cards being bad or not are: 1) Would the card be playable in early Gen 1 duel links? 2) Would the card be playable if put into the rush duel format? If the answer is no to both, you're objectively a bad card
@siquilva7984
2 жыл бұрын
You should do a top 10 best cards that were powercrept on release I think it would be an interesting concept
@Leostar-Regalius
Жыл бұрын
funny thing is, petite moth was NEVER involved with the moth set in the show, larvae moth was the one that started the cocoon
@Quanze
2 жыл бұрын
On another video I requested a video of cards with odd stat lines, and this video reminded me of Castle of Dark Illusions wonky line.
@mask9306
2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't already, can you make a video on censored card art. I think that would be interesting to compare. And you never know, there might be one where the censor looks better.
@spritefan10
Жыл бұрын
Now, hear me out, fusionist does have some use. If you play Instant fusion, you can bring out fusionist and use it as material to summon Naturia Beast which can be worth the neg 1 in card advantage if you're playing a niche synchro deck. This of course would really be the only viable way to bring it out and with IF being Limited now, it's probably not worth having fusionist and Naturia take up 2 slots in your extra deck unless you're desperate though.
@mystictomato9466
2 жыл бұрын
I think you should have also included Magic Ruler. It had stupidly powerful cards too.
@majormadbomber
5 ай бұрын
At least Pumpking, Harpie Lady Sisters, and Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth are good in Duelist of the Roses.
@enderslayer2484
2 жыл бұрын
I have a video idea: top 10 tech cards that are a minus in card advantage(book of moon, droplet, etc.)
@trafalgard.waterlaw4203
2 жыл бұрын
Idk if you guys knew this but, La Jin is the most powerful normal summon at the time....
@basedleafeon3221
2 жыл бұрын
5:56 the voicecrack caught me off guard while eating and listening to this video lmao
@olibobs1411
Жыл бұрын
Harpy ladie, gaye guardian and great moth are the literal 3 best decks i got when my cousin gave me his old cards.
@Kirito_wr
2 жыл бұрын
I had actually a duell where the effect of tainted wisdom could have won me the gam where my opponent avtivated a card that made him able to look at the top 3 cards of my deck and put them back in any order getting a usefull topdeck by shufling my deck could have won me the game
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
2 жыл бұрын
Even then there are so so much better ways to shuffle your deck.
@xAngelsOfHellx
2 жыл бұрын
Still love the Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth, that was one of the last Yugioh games I got as a kid, so the promo holds a spot in my memory. Everything from DDS to TSC really lol, though I honestly never knew about the 1st wave of DDS growing up. Always thought the promos were Salamandra and the like, finding out there were Dark Magician, Blue Eyes and Exodia versions made me quite salty in the moment haha
@ClampEEGEE
2 жыл бұрын
Genuinely shocked we still have never seen a Harpie Lady Sisters retrain that has the name Harpie Lady Sisters while in the (main) deck.
@jamesmcelwain342
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this gives me a lot of nostalgia for the old GBA games
@Kruegersbutthole
2 жыл бұрын
I've been binging the channel and I think it'd be cool to do a top 10 cards that recycle banished cards. I like a lot of fusion decks that banish materials and a lot of the in-archetype recycling can be kind of convoluted. Love the channel!
@noahcharles2571
Жыл бұрын
Convulsions of nature is a card that allows you to play your deck face up combined with cards that allow you to shuffle your deck you essentially pick your next card that you draw
@SuperiorGothBun
2 жыл бұрын
Gate Guardian is probably the most iconic classic Yugioh card that’s never gotten any sort of new retrain or support. The most Konami ever did with it was skills to make it summonable in Duel Links
@DominusZeikyu
2 жыл бұрын
And even the skill is hella terrible.
@13thKingMu
2 жыл бұрын
@@DominusZeikyu tbf it was good back when DL was fresh though it also where the ftk equip burn deck existed because konami fused both goat and 2010 support
@7sonicmario
2 жыл бұрын
They gave it Dark Guardian during the GX era.
@thatman666
2 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting on Gate Guardian Xyz retrain where if it has a Material of a specific Attribute (EARTH, WIND, WATER) it gains some effects.
@sebastianpijov8708
2 жыл бұрын
And the skill wasn't even used to summon Gate Guardian.
@AnvilPro100
2 жыл бұрын
I still remember the first World's Tournament in 2000 when Jeff Jones's came in clutch with Blast Juggler to destroy Patrick Hoban's two Fusionists to win the game. Shit was crazy, yo!
@feathero3
Жыл бұрын
Lol I like the idea that they weren't just using one, but TWO Fusionist XD
@martinmespiespinosa7218
2 жыл бұрын
I would put Larvae Moth for #1, instead of the Great Moth... Funny tale: during my university time, at the place where we used to play YuGiOh, there was a guy who always bring a Great Moth Deck, it was a stall deck with the only purpose to bring Great Moth, and later Great Perfectly Moth, to the field. He managed to pull the combo a good bunch of times. We always invited him a drink if he managed to summon the Moth.
@zeusalternative1270
2 жыл бұрын
There is a rule that if your friend is playing a gimmick deck and he actually pull off the gimmick, he wins out of respect
@failure4452
2 жыл бұрын
How many drinks did you buy for him? Cause I’m guessing not a lot
@martinmespiespinosa7218
2 жыл бұрын
@@failure4452 I actually had to buy him one. Sometimes we tease him by surrendering the duel just before he begans to search in his deck to summon the Moth...
@failure4452
2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmespiespinosa7218 I wouldn’t even blame you, must be scary going up against that kind of power 😢😳😖
@eklxtreme
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so down with the idea of turning yugioh into a drinking game, as adults. it's like a shadow game but instead of damaging your soul ad losing parts of your body, you damage your liver and lose some inhibitions
@BDNeon
2 жыл бұрын
Pumpking's effect was really nice in Duelists of the Roses, every turn it buffed ALL zombies by 100+100, including itself, and with no turn limits. Plus it was easy to fusion summon by just combining any 2 zombie monsters, you got 3 of them on the field and you got a gamebreaking + 300 every turn team of beatsticks... Edit: Oh right, it was combining a zombie and a plant.
@scantyer
2 жыл бұрын
This should have been its actual effect
@LonelySpaceDetective
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played or seen Duelist of the Roses but I'm reminded of how Falsebound Kingdom was, where a lot of impractical monsters in the TCG were actually really good in it.
@tribii1
2 жыл бұрын
Duelist of Roses is one my favorite PS2 games. I have a copy to this day 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@matthewkuscienko4616
2 жыл бұрын
..............Except that Pumpking isn't really a game breaking card in Duelists of the Roses like everyone says it is. Sure, you can gain 500 attack and defense every turn if you brought out 5 of them, but you literally also got the same value off of just one equip card in that game (with a few exceptions). Clovis, of whom is an expert on this game and has literally made hundreds of videos about it talking about all kinds of things in it has even made 2 videos that go into detail about why exactly it is that Pumpking is actually the single most overrated card in the game, with one of those 2 even showing off a way to effectively do what you're trying to accomplish with Pumpking, but is WAY faster. The problem is that Pumpking has earned a reputation for being super good, even though it's actually funny, because when you look at what it's effect actually does, gaining 100 attack and defense each turn has literally NEVER been considered to be any good EVER, making it a conundrum why it got such a ridiculous reputation for supposedly being "the best card in the game"
@michaelmoran6364
2 жыл бұрын
Straight up great game ty for the rose tint bro. Used to hate playing against that guy
@Rurike
2 жыл бұрын
From what I recall, while the tcg started with 1800 max atk for level 4s, in the first set of the OCG, the highest level 4 atk was just 1200, and that context makes some of the real old cards make a lot more sense, emphasis on SOME
@idansheffer56
2 жыл бұрын
Still fusionist is terrible
@Drakorre
2 жыл бұрын
Hitotsu me giant was the boss Monster. Them Aqua mador got released and then we got our beloved 1800 boys
@koxame
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its like yugioh the sacred cards on gba, for a long period of the game the vanillas with 900 atk and 1200 atk were them boys to play
@naos8116
2 жыл бұрын
@@koxame I used mainly Yami and Dark monsters that got boosts. Or I mainly worked on countering the elements the opponent used.
@diogenes42069
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the original card game was only in Japan and didn't really have many rules other than 13 but this was before Konami was involved
@daranyillh6446
2 жыл бұрын
I think the idea for Blast Juggler was to get rid of cards like Mystic Elf, who had high defense and low attack
@Kurotekken
2 жыл бұрын
Holy beef pants I think you're right
@heavyrain5949
2 жыл бұрын
Which wasn't even needed since you had Fissure which takes out a monster with lowest atk (most likely Elf). Dark Hole, Raigeki, Man-Eater Bug and Summoned Skill. Why waste a slot for a bad card when you have other options?
@daranyillh6446
2 жыл бұрын
@@heavyrain5949 oh I don't think it was really useful in any way, but it kinda makes as pack filler so that players who didn't get the other, actually good, cards would get at least ONE option for that job
@heavyrain5949
2 жыл бұрын
@@daranyillh6446 But Starter Deck Yugi & Kaiba had all but Raigeki though, so there was no reason to use Blast Juggler lol
@daranyillh6446
2 жыл бұрын
@@heavyrain5949 not everyone got the starter decks tho, I know I sure didn't
@adamg2031
2 жыл бұрын
Great Moth is such a great example of how different early Yu-Gi-Oh design philosophy was. If that card was printed even a few years later, they'd just make each card search out the next card from the deck like every other card does.
@Phoebe5448
Жыл бұрын
Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth?? That's the most powerful card in all of Duel Monsters!!
@Envy_May
Жыл бұрын
if they really wanted it to emulate the original concept from the manga it really should've been in the extra deck
@btttmeehan
Жыл бұрын
I’m honestly still surprised they haven’t given us a generic search card for insects like ROTA
@JoHn-if6wy
Жыл бұрын
Yugiho was just an extremely bad game to play in the early 1-4 sets. When compared to other strategic card games at the time ( MTG, pokemon, LOTR tcg). But i mean we were all around 8-14 years old so it was still fun. Looking back now and i think yugiho was never intented te be a strategic card game that made sense but just cards for enthusiastic collectors who loved yugiho. Summon skull= 1 tribute Dark magician= 2 tribute The whole gameplay and mechanics were so bad lol
@idontknow164
Жыл бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh's biggest problem in the beginning is that it's based on a card game manga and you can just write that Mai drew into Elegant Egotist with Harpy Lady on field. Real life not work like that!
@tomforge614
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a lot of these are from the non-Japanese perspective. Early on in the original packs, 900 was more along the lines of the average statline. This is why a lot of early video game decks were full of weaker monsters.
@HighPriestFuneral
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that format about... three weeks? Where Hitotsu-Me Giant was the most powerful card in the game?
@tomforge614
2 жыл бұрын
@@HighPriestFuneral I mean, it lasted for about 9 packs before the game we got in America.
@michael_betts
2 жыл бұрын
@@HighPriestFuneral there was also the various junior rulesets before the more modern rules were designed. Yu-Gi-Oh wasn't designed as a game first, it was designed as a plotline in a manga, and early Yu-Gi-Oh in japan was screwed up because of it. Junior rules not having tributes as a mechanic into summoned skull beat down into Tier 0 exodia decks, it was a mess. Yes there was a time where hitotsu-me giant was one of the best cards. It had the highest defence stat of the 3 level 4 or lower monsters with 1200 attack, which meant with 3 +300 attack equip cards it could beat over a 2k wall by hitting 2100 attack.
@HighPriestFuneral
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomforge614 I just watched @Janjo Zone's excellent videos on this. Basically from February 4th to March 6th, it was king until a special tournament attendance Sword Mistress Kanan throughout February. Then the normal threshold of power It moved into the 1500's pretty quickly from there and only skyrocketed. Oddly enough Gemini Elf, which changed the game for the TCG was released in these early seasons.
@paradoxzee6834
Жыл бұрын
I remerber the early Yugi and Kaiba decks, they were a mixed bag. Had some good cards and some really awful cards people tried to replaced it as soon they can
@Nagatem
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously gate guardian needs a new version, that can contact fusion or something and has protection 3 times a turn, heck rush duel could literally make a maximum version of it
@ianr.navahuber2195
2 жыл бұрын
Is kinda weird how even Ishizu's cards have gotten retrains while Paradox Brothers have gotten NOTHING..... is Konami really that unsure how to adapt their "labyrinth and tag duel" gimmick ?
@Nagatem
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 , I know at least the 3,gods and gate guardian deserve new versions
@runningoncylinders3829
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Legendary Duelists began back in the Duel Links developing days. Paradox Brothers actually had a pretty good Skill back then. Not like pre-nerf Masked Tribute, Master of Destiny, or Cyber Style level, but good enough. Why it didn't get support after attention, a tiny moment in the spotlight, is a tragedy.
@Nerobyrne
2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Gate Guardian, but as a card it's overwhelmingly terrible. I still remember seeing it as a kid, knowing almost nothing about the game and going "wow, nobody is ever going to summon this."
@neroneroren6788
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Valiant has a board game gimmick to move their cards arround. So is not like is impossible
@Materialist39
2 жыл бұрын
Castle of dark illusions is one of the greatest crimes to this game simply because of its stat line
@HoveringAboveMyself
2 жыл бұрын
Konami purposefuly made the Moths even worse than they already were. In the manga the evolution line started with Larvae Moth and the turn count included both players' turns so it took half the time to summon them. Also Great Moth and Perfectly Ultimate weren't main deck monsters (they were non-physical, like Fusions) so you didn't need them in your hand to summon them.
@motodog242
2 жыл бұрын
And Ultimate had an Anti-Pumpking effect, by decreasing opponent’s atk per a turn
@Merilirem
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it woulda been so much better if they just started by adding those main deck monsters into the extra deck. Gate Guardian coulda been a contact fusion and would atleast have niche use in older decks since Extra deck room wasn't an issue.
@Lh0000
2 жыл бұрын
Hashtag make the moths good I guess
@thanotosomega
2 жыл бұрын
So many cards were designed with the animes logic in mind, where you actually had to work with what you had and only kaiba cheated by buying tons of cards to make his deck
@schwarzerritter5724
2 жыл бұрын
Magic the Gathering creators learned that lesson very soon, because the creators did not think anyone would by enough card packs to get several of the Power 9 cards.
@omegamanGXE
3 ай бұрын
@@schwarzerritter5724Gagic the Mathering
@Noojtxeeg
2 жыл бұрын
Man. Even if Great Moth had a "you win the duel" effect upon summon, it would still be unplayable.
@maxmucci3170
10 ай бұрын
As of right now there are ways to cheat it out ignoring its summoning conditions, so if it won the duel on-summon it'd be a playable janky ftk strategy lol
@Wolftatze
3 ай бұрын
Its interesting because this could be fixed in so many different ways. Like being able to Special Summon Cocoon of Evolution if Petit Moth was on the field, activate the effect this way and be able to switch positions as well, making this a 1-turn-play. Or removing the 4th-turn-limit, making it essentially a time bomb until you draw Great Moth. Or giving Great Moth the effect from the Anime, reducing each enemy monsters attack and defense points by 100 each time Standby Phase rolls around. But to be honest? In todays Meta, you probably could do all of this at the same time and still it would just be an "somewhat ok" card. Nothing great, not terrible, just somewhat playable. In the Meta back then, implementing all of those changes would probably brought it up right there to one of the best cards, even with all this setup, just for Great Moths effect.
@RetrospectiveChannel
2 жыл бұрын
A popular way to summon "Gate Guardian" was to banish all its components first then use "Return from the Different Dimension" or " Dimension Fusion " to summon them back to the field.
@dethkruzer
Жыл бұрын
Curious if there's any good ways to banish them from the hand and/or deck?
@RetrospectiveChannel
Жыл бұрын
@@dethkruzer Back in the day we used cards like "Aqua Spirit" , "Garuda the Wind Spirit" etc.
@kewlaldo10
2 жыл бұрын
Hey duel logs, here’s an idea: top 10 worst “positive effects”. Examples: increasing attack, gaining life points, shuffling your deck, stop monsters from attacking, etc
@puppieslovies
2 жыл бұрын
There is a video on useless cards like sparks
@Bikee-uh6of
2 жыл бұрын
@@puppieslovies i think he means worst KINDS of effects not worst effects
@puppieslovies
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bikee-uh6of scale matters more than type of effect, don't you think? A card that stops your opponent from attacking for the rest of the duel or a card that gives 20,000 life points would be really good
@Kawaiisikkusu
2 жыл бұрын
"and at number 1 is Fake Trap, a normal trap that allows you to looking at your own set spell&trap"
@j0j0dartiste21
2 жыл бұрын
"shuffling facedown monsters" is also pretty low in the usefulness scale
@ChimeraMedia
2 жыл бұрын
"Top 10 Cards to take on the Maxx C Challenge" would be both fun and useful for Master Duel players. I'd love to learn about all the creative ways you can get revenge on someone relying on it going second.
@leviathan5207
2 жыл бұрын
Psy Framegear Gamma, Called by the grave, Ash blossom. You are welcome
@ChimeraMedia
2 жыл бұрын
To clarify: There are lots of cards out there that do something useful when your opponent draws cards, since the draw is not optional. There are cards that burn your opponent for each card they draw, or cards/combos that let you very easily force your opponent to deck out by summon looping or summoning tons and tons of times before reaching an end point, or cards that can force your opponent to ditch their huge hand all at once like Present Card. Lots of creative ways to torture Maxx C players.
@PKMNwater
2 жыл бұрын
I saw a duel live with [iirc] @ignister with card destruction as a tech. PoV was from the Maxx C side, so it was the perfect Uno reverse moment.
@acedemon3434
2 жыл бұрын
@@leviathan5207 none of those help with the maxx c challenge but OK
@ChimeraMedia
2 жыл бұрын
@@leviathan5207 Well that's no fun! Why not start a combo that forces them to lose instead? Much more satisfying.
@azulon435
2 жыл бұрын
I thought Tainted Wisdom was meant to be used with Convulsion of Nature, which flips your deck upside down. Since you can watch your deck, now you could technically shuffle your deck until You get a card you liked.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
2 жыл бұрын
Although in competitive yugioh it's usually your opponent who shuffles your deck, and it still can't shuffle on the turn summoned.
@azulon435
2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 Oh, I didnt know that.
@ExeloMinish
2 жыл бұрын
You'd only get to shuffle once every two turns, because you can't exactly switch battle positions freely. And that's if someone doesn't just punch you in the brain.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
2 жыл бұрын
@@ExeloMinish that was my first thought too but theoretically there is no ruling on how long a single shuffle goes, so with just one position switch you could already keep shuffling until you "coincidentally" get the card you need on top.
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
2 жыл бұрын
Card Shuffle is a better choice by far since it only costs 300L for indefinite use per turn.
@sharplosion1
2 жыл бұрын
I think Pumpking deserves a full, proper archetype just as much as Gate Guardian does. It always came off as 'THE' Zombie monster back then. (Though maybe thanks in part due to how strong it was in Duelist of the Roses.) It's weird that they made Pumprincess and Jack-o-Bolan be clear references to Pumpking, but neither are any attempt at an archetype for it. Granted gaining lots of attack with zombie monsters is already covered by Skull Servants, so Pumpking would need a new sort of gimmick. Still, I hope one day it'll get one.
@feathero3
Жыл бұрын
I would love a pumpkin archetype!
@jerfuhrer2581
Жыл бұрын
@@feathero3 Pumpking and Hungry Burger combine to make the "Vengeful Dinner" archetype. It's just foods that are fiends and zombies. They mill the opponent, wreck and interrupt his hand, and then punish them for having cards in the graveyard.
@Fujisaur
9 ай бұрын
He can give protection effects for zombie types. Also it could use attack gain effects but as a bonus rather than the main effects
@504gucci4
2 ай бұрын
I think it was because of Duelist of the Roses *and* when bones used vs joey it in the anime .
@happinezz0236
2 жыл бұрын
If I could make a suggestion how about a list of beginner friendly archetypes
@lynxfresh5214
2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I feel like True Dracos (No need for an extra deck) or Prank Kids (One card combos that also teach the Link and Fusion summoning mechanics) would be on that list. Plus both decks are very competitive as well.
@anonamos225
2 жыл бұрын
Dinomist has to make the list. And Dangers
@Calemad
2 жыл бұрын
Eldlich :^)
@mfznal-hafidz8592
2 жыл бұрын
Fire Fist. From them, you can also learn ritual, fusion, synchro and xyz even link.
@Merilirem
2 жыл бұрын
Dragonmaids are pretty simple at their core but can do stuff.
@m.l.228
2 жыл бұрын
You missed sparks.
@neobullseye1
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Yado Karu says that: "[...]You can place any number of cards [...]", and 'any number' includes zero. Meaning that even if you shift it from attack to defense (maybe the opponent was wide open and you shifted it to attack to get some cheap damage in), you can always just choose to not return any of them. Plus, "You can" is an optional effect, so again it's not needed at all. Given that, you can think of it as a semi-normal monster with 1700 Defense, which already makes it better than pretty much every other card on this list. Not *good*, mind you, but not complete trash either.
@motodog242
2 жыл бұрын
If it’s an effect monster, that you only use as a normal monster… it’s complete trash. It’s level is bad for Aqua decks, it’s atk and def are too low for level 4 monsters, it’s effect is completely detrimental, and you get a black mark for running it in tournaments… not really, but you should if you’re just going to troll, lol. If it was a normal monster, it at least would have normal monster support, even if it still wouldn’t be chosen for those decks, still.
@heavyrain5949
2 жыл бұрын
Yado is trash lol. Wanted a wall?Just use Giant Soldier of Stone: 1300 atk, 2000 def. Casuals, gotta love 'em 😅
@neobullseye1
2 жыл бұрын
@@heavyrain5949 Again, I'm not saying it's good. I'm not even saying it's remotely viable. I'm saying there are *worse* cards out there, even back then, which is why it should be at a lower point on the list. Just as a random example, Fusionist has worse stats and costs way more to bring out. It does not have a negative effect, sure, but again, the effect is completely optional anyway and can be ignored if you don't want to use it.
@heavyrain5949
2 жыл бұрын
@@neobullseye1 It's really that bad my guy, even back then it really was one of the worst cards made.
@kentucky_ken
2 жыл бұрын
Ah... the nostalgia. I still have these worst cards on my collection.
@Zetact_
2 жыл бұрын
Dark Artist is so bad that it skipped being released in the TCG until it was decided to be imported for pack filler in Legacy of the Valiant.
@biobroly9324
2 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why Pumpking and Castle work together when they were never played together in the manga or anime
@AsherX9
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that we have yet to get a retrain of Gate Guardian is actually baffling to me.
@MrSkullMerchant
2 жыл бұрын
Or atleast some support to help actualy summoning it much easier
@AsherX9
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSkullMerchant there’s no point to support it since it’s so bad. If there was support cards that just so happen to support it, that’s one thing. Like how Cocoon of ultra evolution and Corrosive Scales happens to support Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth, but it’s not the main focus of those cards. If they wanted to put Gate Guardian back into the game, the only way to do so would be by creating Retrains
@lightning2279
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should put more emphasis on supporting older archetypes than making weird/unappealing new ones. And I do just mean the usual suspects like heroes, dark magician, and blue eyes either.
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
Жыл бұрын
@@AsherX9 Done.
@Felipenunesalmeida
2 жыл бұрын
To this day, I expect an Extra Deck card that is a playable version of Pumpking. It would be a generic Extra Monster for Zombies, it could destroy a monster on the field and gain an ATK/DEF value. And keep gaining ATK/DEF every turn.
@jayclearmen411
2 жыл бұрын
that would be a fearsome effect! if Not only itself gained an ATK/DEF but every zombie you control did too so long as he was in play!
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