In the remake, the one thing that I hated more than the politics and everything that went with it, was how everyone hated everyone else! By the 4th or 5th episode of the first season, I was wanting the Galactica to tell the civilians to screw themselves and leave them for the Cylon. I stopped watching soon afterwards. I don't ever intend to watch anymore of it but will and have watched the original series again and again. One of the best scenes in the original series was when an unknown sickness swept through the Fleet, the Cylons were going to attack and all the viper pilots walked out of the infirmary and the Dr demanded that they return to sickbay "because they could barely stand." Then Boomer said, "a Viper is flown in a sitting position." Awesome scene!
@Schindlerphoto
Жыл бұрын
By the third episode of the reboot, I was so sick of the politics of the show that I started rooting for the Cylons to win. I stopped watching soon after that.
@mr.puddintater1805
Жыл бұрын
Suicide bombers was the straw for me
@johntabler349
Жыл бұрын
I used to want to be Boomer when we played when I was a kid
@craigalbrechtson5364
Жыл бұрын
I agree 200%. I was 11 when the original came out and still remember being swept up in this great story, with memorable characters. The remake left me cold and not really caring about the characters at all. They were all equally unlikeable.
@clarenceartman7487
Жыл бұрын
That's sad (and I mostly agree)
@0Zebadee0
Жыл бұрын
Spot on !
@Paul_1971
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@KellyStarks
Жыл бұрын
Agree. I bailed on the remake when I realized I figured if this was all that was left of humanity, pull the plug.
@b.chuchlucious5471
Жыл бұрын
The original gave you hope and was fun and memorable. The remake left you demoralized, by design.
@brianmcguinness9642
Жыл бұрын
I'll take the original over the remake any day. I agree with your points. In particular, it's hard to get invested in a show when the characters are all backstabbing assholes, so there's nobody you can really support. Stardoe was especially over-the-top and irritating. But also, the ending was a huge cop-out. All along, the opening narration said that the Cylons had a plan. But we never found out what that plan was. There was no real payoff. And with the relentlessly dark tone, the show is a real slog to get through. Nobody ever cracks a joke, which is unrealistic. Real people use humor to help get through tough situations. The show was clearly not planned out ahead of time as carefully as it should have been.
@jamesrizza2640
Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct about the ending I thought it felt made up and rushed. Furthermore it was very unsatisfying for such a ending.
@mariomathey7548
Жыл бұрын
Where is the end in the original?🤔
@jimcoester8623
Жыл бұрын
The characters were so bad I just wished they'd all succeed in killing each other. But that was just a reflection of the real problem. The producer and writers. The writers had to have been aspiring soap opera writers who weren't good enough to even work for days of our lives, and Ron Moore was happy to have them. Richard Hatch must have done one too many of his own stunts not to realize that he was the only person involved who didn't despise the real show.
@resofactor
Жыл бұрын
To make matters worse... Ronald D Moore admitted "there NEVER was a plan" lol Just a bunch of lemming leading crap!
@cheeseburger12
Жыл бұрын
The remake jumped the shark with the ending of season 2. The second half of the show was very dreary and disappointing. But I think the overall writing quality and unpredictability of the 2nd show made it better. Yes, the Cylon plan was disappointing. It felt like a weak payoff. Angel Starbuck? Tigh was a Cylon? It go so freaking depressing. And let's face it, it also didn't have Dirk Bendict. But I appreciated the moral dilemmas and tough questions- for awhile, anyways.
@davidpickens8800
Жыл бұрын
In the Original, you wanted to see our heroes end up with Earth in sight leaving the Cylons behind. The remake u wanted everyone on the show humans and Cylons to crash into the Sun.
@7bestthings
Жыл бұрын
The original Battlestar Galactica was definitely underrated and was fun to watch. Thank you for an original and interesting video!
@UrbanSwagger
Жыл бұрын
I still get chills when I watch the open. Takes me back to my childhood. Had a crush on Cassiopia. Also had models and toys from the series. Was sad when Hollywood shot down Richard Hatch's reboot concept.
@Schindlerphoto
Жыл бұрын
One thing that you overlooked that Classic BSG had over t he remake was their costumes. The Warrior uniforms had a very Egyptian feel to them, especially their dress uniforms. The helmets were obviously modeled after Egyptian headdress which helped draw a connection between the Colonials and Earth, as it was suggested in the opening narration. The remake abandoned all of that in favor of jumpsuits and more recognizable military type uniforms. For me, such attention to detail on the original uniforms greatly added to the charm of the Classic series.
@kevincrady2831
Жыл бұрын
This! I lost suspension of disbelief in the remake immediately upon seeing the characters going around in whatever the actors decided to buy at The Gap. How did this culture from a set of alien planets turn out to be early 21st century Americans? The Original was cheesy, sure, but the links to ancient Earth cultures (Egypt, and Greece, e.g. "Cassiopeia") made sense of why they were trying to go to Earth in the first place. However, they weren't _exact copies_ of ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Sumerians, etc. Instead, their costume choices conveyed the idea that they were once culturally connected to Earth in ancient times, but their culture (and ours) diverged after the separation. The creators of the remake obviously wanted to write about modern Americans. IIRC the main creator said "it's about _us"_ i.e., modern Americans, rather than a future culture as in Star Trek. They should have just made it _Final Countdown: The Series._ _Final Countdown_ was a movie about a US aircraft carrier that gets thrown back in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor, and has to decide if they want to intervene in history. Just have them get transported to a different planet/location/time for each episode, and you've got your story about a wandering American military force.
@donaldnevgonhapniv3084
Жыл бұрын
Final countdown got a series? Now I know why I got rid of TV.
@kevincrady2831
Жыл бұрын
@@donaldnevgonhapniv3084 For clarity, no, Final Countdown did not get a series AFAIK, but IMO if the makers of nuBSG wanted to make a series about (for all practical intents and purposes) a US carrier battlegroup having sci-fi adventures, that's what they should have done.
@markeffend165
Жыл бұрын
Oh I knew abc was so cheap back then and nothings changed
@alvermette218
Жыл бұрын
I was there when the classic series made its world debut in 78 and have seen every episode more than once. In comparison, I could not even watch the reboot although I have tried more than once....just could not do it. The classic show had a charm the reboot just lacked and I'm so happy you made this video because I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.
@BCBaron
Жыл бұрын
I also remember the original series with great fondness. A friend of mine would sometimes invite me over to his house to watch the reboot version on the SyFy Channel. I tried to follow the story, but it was not very easy to get into. There was the occasional decent or interesting scene, but it felt like you were required to wade through tons of dark, contrived, edgy melodrama in order to finally arrive at those all too brief moments. Just didn't seem worth it overall. I could tell they had cast some fairly talented actors. Unfortunately, I found just about all of the characters rather unlikable. As a result, I couldn't really get invested in what happened to them. While I thought most of the special effects looked pretty good, the CGI Cylon Centurions always felt very fake, especially compared to the menacing appearance of the original design.
@ileria3
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the things that bothered me about the new show was, it looked like the chars walked off the street onto the set with their business suits on. I mean WTF! at least original show at least had custom created outfits that looked futuristic. The other parts that bothered me was the space fights. the constant Camera zooming drove me crazy. The original had style and character when the ships flew in space. the same as how Star Wars did their space fights. The new one had no heart. they didn't put a lot of effort into the space fighting. it looked to hoky!
@alanhilder1883
Жыл бұрын
I've got the original on DVD. The remake came on, lost interest after 2 shows.
@Angrybogan
Жыл бұрын
I could not stand the swap-out of Starbuck and Boomer with female characters. Apollo was steady and strong. Starbuck was reckless and no one wanted him as a wing-man. Adama putting them together made them both synergistic. This was all lost making Starbuck a woman. I didn't mind "Kara Thrace" but she wasn't "Starbuck".
@deeterful
Жыл бұрын
100% agree!
@ExplainingComputers
Жыл бұрын
Great video, and I agree with everything you say. I remember the original BattleStar Galactica very fondly, but never really got into the reboot. I would add that the design and execution of the Cylons was an important part of the original that was lost in the reboot.
@Blastarr1
Жыл бұрын
OMG I agree with all you said but you left out a few more things. the original had a cast that cares about each other, humanity, the fleet, and more. I loved the dynamics of Apollo and Adama as father and son then Boxy as a grandson. The parent-child love was always there. They made them dysfunctional in the remake. They hated each other and were at odds all the time. Starbuck is a great character. He was a womanizer and lover of women and always down to have fun. he had two+ women that loved him and knew what he was and accepted him for his flaws he never hurt a woman he would defend them with his life while getting a kiss. he drank, smoked, gambled, and did all the vices but at the end of the day, he was the best pilot in the fleet and would die for any of them. he we lighthearted never took things too seriously and would be the first to fight if needed. He is the rogue that has seen it all even in the dark times and still somehow has a smile and puts one on everyone he is around. His loyalty we never in question ever. But the remake they said ok keep the vices and throw all the rest out. Boxy was do important to Apollo and making him a dad was important for the show. Nope, no kids in the remake. Casiopea and Athena great beautiful women that were tougher than the men at times stepped up and did things. The was more than eye candy and the fact they both loved the same man and he loved them and were willing to fight for him without hating each other was a dynamic that never was in the remake. The fact well in the pilot there are other aliens in the universe was great. Only humans in the remake. Maybe habitable worlds in the original and only a few in the remake. I can go on.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the original Battlestar Galactica! I completely agree with you on all the points you mentioned. The original had a strong sense of family, relationships, and camaraderie that was missing in the remake. Starbuck was a fan favorite, and the remake really missed the mark with his/her character. The dynamics between the characters were just so much more interesting and complex in the original, and it made the show that much more engaging. I also appreciate your points about the presence of aliens in the original, and the focus on a more diverse cast of characters. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts on this subject!
@MapleDog
Жыл бұрын
The actors of the remake said,if one alien is added,they'd quit the show.
@georgerowe9166
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective Also there was the dynamic between Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer. The Triad that could never be defeated.
@clarenceartman7487
Жыл бұрын
I especially appreciated the relationship between Adama and Boxy - they weren't related at all but you would never know it from the way they interacted - when his mom died he stayed with his step dad and that made him the Commander's grandson, who just called him grampa, because that's who he was to him this was not a small thing like you might think "so what?" there are broken families all over the place - some dysfunctional others quite healthy but this was important really for two reasons actually (or more perhaps) one, it spoke to the character of Adama and of Apollo that they would adopt Boxy as their own - it would have been easy to say "we are important and we are too busy for kids" (or he reminds me too much of his mother and it's too painful to have him around and he's not my kid or my responsibility) but in their situation there would have been many orphans who would need to be taken in and cared for anyway the second reason which was of vital import to the story is that it was humanity on display which was exactly what was at stake - would humanity survive? with the survival of the human race on the line it was important to show humanity at its best - this is why we DESERVE to win because at the heart of everything we are good - if this was a game of thrones story one might say "who cares who wins - they could all die for all I care - they will probably all burn in hell anyway" but with this type story we are well defined as the good guys (except Boltar; he was the cowardly traitor held up for mockery and ridicule)
@Blastarr1
Жыл бұрын
@@clarenceartman7487 yes yes yes, the parent-child is tight but the grandparent and grandchild even more. The humanity of the original is so so great. In a scene with Apollo and Sheba and a scene with Starbuck and Athena, they talk about a cleansing of fire from the holocaust. Boxy was part of it that cleansing, to the best of humanity in trying times, and shows how great was can be. Look at our own history during great disasters and how we all come together. I am part of a blended family. My step-siblings are my siblings. I have cousins that are only related by marriage. I have cousins that are not even that. But we are all still family and love each other. BG remake and many others seem to forget that. Maybe that is why I love the original it had a heart deep down in the story. The family was key. I am close to mine and like to see that representation on screen. They talk about LGBTQI, minorities, women, etc.. represented in shows. That is great and we need that. I have seen too many broken families on screen and in real life. I feel like of my friends I am the only one that has a loving family. That is why the original is so dear to me.
@coldservings
Жыл бұрын
I tried. I _really_ tried to get into the "reimagined" Battlestar Galactica. But by about halfway into the first season, I realized that I didn't care what happened to any of those characters. I walked away and never looked back.
@kingbeauregard
Жыл бұрын
What I like about original BSG is the implied premise, which unfortunately got kind of abandoned: the BSG crew will eventually reach earth and serve as the basis of the myths of the various peoples we know today. So you've got Adama as the first man, Apollo flying across the heavens in his chariot, Athena the wise, and so on. Now as of "Galactica 1980" they officially ditched that notion, but at least in the original series it was a thing.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I completely agree with you about the implied premise of the original BSG. The idea that the crew of the Battlestar Galactica would eventually reach Earth and become the basis for various myths and legends is a fascinating concept. The show certainly hinted at that in its earlier seasons, and it's a shame that they eventually abandoned that notion in Galactica 1980. However, even without it, the original BSG remains a classic in its own right. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@charlesballard5251
Жыл бұрын
Boy are you ever wrong!!!! The original BSG took place as it was airing, NOT in the past. The opening narration clearly stated that, "... there may yet be brothers of man who fight to survive somewhere among the heavens". And then there was the episode where they picked up the transmission of the Apollo 11 landing, but didn't see it because they'd walked away from the receiver. And when I met Richard Hatch for the first time at the San Diego Comic-con the last thing I said to him before I walked away was, "By the way... 'Galactica 1980' SUCKED"!!!! He grinned really big, clapped me on the shoulder and roared, "IT NEVER HAPPENED"!!!!!! And we both had a damned good laugh at that.
@kingbeauregard
Жыл бұрын
@@charlesballard5251 Like I say, they ditched the implied premise at some point. I remember the Count Iblis narration, but too many things line up with the characters and mythology for me to ignore the theme they'd set up.
@hippiosposeidaon116
Жыл бұрын
All right; I agree that Galactica 1980 was no good. I think no one disagress in such assertion. But I humbly disagree that Galactica 1980 abandoned the original premise of BSG. Eons ago the 13th colony had left the galaxy where the other 12th colonies remained. That 13th colony reached Earth and settled on this planet, so they were indeed the basis of the myths of the various people on Earth. In my mind, the 13th colony could have been the island of Atlantis, which ended up being destroyed. Again, this is just me putting different myths together (nothing in the BSG canon attaches the 13th colony to Atlantis on Earth as far as I remember). In any case, in Galactica 1980 the survivors of the 12th colonies finally arrive to Earth in present day -- only to find out that we are technologically/socially immature given that the 13th colony ended due to an unknown catastrophe on Earth. Makes sense? I think this has a pretty tight logic.
@TommygunNG
Жыл бұрын
Correct. It was set in the then present day. The implication was that old mythologies here on Earth derived from the 13th colony, and their experience on Kobal. Apollo and Athena were named after gods, sort of like how Roman Catholics name their kids after saints.
@veronicareitherreese6671
Жыл бұрын
Favorite ship - the Colonial Movers with the motto "We move anywhere". Loved the original. It was a real effort to sit through the remake once.
@davidpelto8824
Жыл бұрын
I was skeptical when I saw your title, so I heard you out. I think you're right. And I think the reason you're right is, that the original was made in a day when Good and Evil, right and wrong, heroes and villains were foundational concepts. Today, those lines have been nearly hopelessly blurred.
@davidlow862
Жыл бұрын
The original show gave us a people worth saving. The remake gave us a people i couldnt wait to see die.
@ajclements4627
Жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see Richard Hatch’s continuation of the story “The Second Coming”. The novels he wrote are pretty good as well.
@Schindlerphoto
Жыл бұрын
Huge fan of Richard Hatch's novels, the second book, "Warhawk", was a personal favorite.
@arcticfox6808
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it! I couldn't get through the new one. The mini-series was great, but then it just became more and more depressing. Like every crew member needed to be on Prozac or something. The writers clearly just botched it from there.
@estondunn
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! The remake pales in comparison to the original ... it's why it's the original and begged for a comeback, not a makeover.
@danarseti
Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that in TOS BG, the two popular games, Triad, the live action sports game and Pyramid, the card game, were reversed in the Updated BG and its prequel, Caprica. The live action sports was now called Pyramid and Triad was the card game played by the crew. Also, TOS BG used lasers, whereas the updated BG used projectiles weapons, ie; bullets and missiles exclusively.
@darrenbent7601
Жыл бұрын
One reason why I prefer the classic Battlestar Galactica to the reboot are the Cylons. They were robots, plain and simple. there was only one episode where there was a "Human Cylon". All these cloned, human spies was really strange. And the fact that the "evil" Cylons were monotheistic, and the "good" humans were polytheists really alienated a lot of people of faith, not only the Muslims (which I believe were the target), but Jewish and Christians too. The only things I liked about the reboot were the starships, the robotic Cylons,... and that is about it. Everything else about it was too dark, to "normal", to forgettable.
@briansullivan5908
Жыл бұрын
As part of a high school writing assignment I wrote a letter to the network praising the original series. Then they canceled it and I cried. I approached the remake as just a sci-fi tv show, as if it had nothing to do with the original. This made it easier to deal with the differences. I also watched BSG 1980, not a great show but it was fun.
@Gamevet
Жыл бұрын
The opening narrative for the OG Battlestar Galactica, is one of the best that I've ever seen in television Sci-Fi.
@df61
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with why the original Battlestar Galactica is better. After just a few beginning episodes if the remake, I was hoping the Cylons would win. In my opinion, the remake only used the title "Battlestar Galactica " for the easy name recognition. Because if the remake had an original name all its own, like "Warship in Space" would anyone even have watched it?
@Potrimpo
Жыл бұрын
I found that despite the added complexity to the remake characters, they came off as barely 2 dimensional. Despite being simpler, I found the original characters being more dynamic, yet grounded. The camera angles on the remake are so choppy, it's like they don't know where to look, as though it lacked any real focus.
@christopherflanagan9626
Жыл бұрын
I am beginning to think that the sort of virtuous masculine role models presented to children (of both genders) in the past strengthened society.
@cybernit3
Жыл бұрын
Ya, I agree with about the original vs 1980 remake. When I first viewed this video thought original vs 2000s Battlestar Galactica. I like the original over the BSG2k 1 main reason is they didn't use the original villians storyline --- The Cylons were actually reptiloids who created cyclon androids; but BSG 2k make a human the creator of the cylons.... 2ndly Starbuck is a male and keep it that; they could easily introduce some new female character and had Sheba. 3rdly This show was on when I was only 6 years old and always excited to watch it back in the late 70s and was so high tech back then. Thanks for explaining and you are dead on right.... take care
@tonywhite9873
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget 1.Aliens. 2. Strong family. 3.Tech( old Galactia was a top of the line active ship, new Galactia ship was an outdated underpowered ship. 4. Pets. 5. Hope.
@NightHawke
Жыл бұрын
You could have stopped at the characters and had a compelling argument! During the first season of NextGen, a nearby UHF channel started rerunning Battlestar the same night. I had to watch through a blizzard of snow every week, but it was SUCH a relief to see fun, living breathing PEOPLE after dealing with the vacuous strawmen of NextGen! Sure stalwart heroes like Apollo and charming rogues like Starbuck were tropes already at that time, but the actors kept their portrayals fresh, even if some of the scripts were mighty stale! It's a shame ABC forced it into a regular series instead of quarterly event movies. I think it was the grind of putting an hour of TV on air every week that had them grasping for the poorer episodes in its run. I'll give you one more superior aspect of OG Galactica: world-building. Both shows eventually confirmed the relationship between the Colonies and Earth, though they did it in the two different ways. But the original show tried to create a "mother" society that had elements which would lead to the ancient societies and myths on Earth. The remake instead emulated modern American society and politics for the Colonies. It was mostly effective, but was too often on the nose to really explore a given issue in a science fiction context. The Original Star Trek was the master class in this kind of metaphorical story-telling, but it was never the backbone of the show.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for leaving such an insightful comment on our video! I couldn't agree with you more about the characters in the original Battlestar Galactica being a highlight. The portrayal of these characters, with their unique personalities and quirks, definitely made the show stand out compared to other sci-fi series of the time. And I completely understand why the original Galactica was such a welcome change of pace compared to the strawmen of Star Trek: The Next Generation. I also agree that the world-building in the original was superior, as it tried to create a society with roots in ancient Earth myths and societies. The remake's attempt at emulating modern American society was effective in some ways, but too often lacked the subtlety needed to explore complex issues in a science fiction context. The original Star Trek set the bar for this type of storytelling, and it's a shame that the original Battlestar Galactica wasn't given a chance to reach its full potential. Thank you again for your comments and for watching the video. It's always great to hear from fans of the series and to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of different sci-fi shows. We appreciate your support and look forward to hearing from you in the future.
@bazman32
Жыл бұрын
Also, the original pilot movie had Patrick Macnee opening with "There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. They may have been the architects of the great pyramids, or the lost civilizations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens".. then comes the unforgettable music - that really set the tone and hooks you in!! sighhh ... no ones does it like this anymore!
@kevinputry5655
Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything said here, especially about the characters of the original. The chemistry among them, especially with the primary characters was spot on! And they're very likable. But the characters from the reboot were so miserable that I can't see how anybody would care what happens to them. A continuation of the original series is what should have happened.
@t.s.adrian8785
Жыл бұрын
In the "remake" you were often rooting for the Cylons. Humanity was not worth saving.
@wtk6069
Жыл бұрын
It also redefined TV sci-fi for two decades (meaning it began the frustrating cycle of sci-fi shows being successful enough to survive in terms of ratings, but they get cancelled anyway because of expense).
@JamesEzell
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. I have always thought the remake missed the mark on what made the original so special.
@okrajoe
Жыл бұрын
Original rules. Have a thumbs up!
@kevincrady2831
Жыл бұрын
I lost suspension of disbelief in the remake immediately upon seeing the characters going around in whatever the actors decided to buy at The Gap. Oh, and when Red Dress Cylon Lady rolled up in a Hummer. WTF?! How did this civilization from a set of alien planets turn out to be early 21st century Americans? And not just similar, but _exactly_ like modern Americans? The Original was cheesy, sure, but the links to ancient Earth cultures (Egypt, Greece, the ancient Israelites, etc.) made sense of why they were trying to go to Earth in the first place. However, they weren't _exact copies_ of ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Israelites, Sumerians, etc. Instead, the show's costume choices conveyed the idea that they were once culturally connected to Earth in ancient times, but their culture (and ours) diverged after the separation. The creators of the remake obviously wanted to write about modern Americans. IIRC the main creator said "it's about _us"_ i.e., modern Americans, rather than a future culture as in Star Trek. They should have just made it _Final Countdown: The Series._ _Final Countdown_ was a movie about a US aircraft carrier that gets thrown back in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor, and has to decide if they want to intervene in history. Just have them get transported to a different planet/location/time for each episode, and you've got your story about a wandering American military force. Or make _The Last Ship._ But that's not _Battlestar Galactica._
@davidusler4956
Жыл бұрын
There's no comparison. The original Battlestar was 100 times better than the remake....
@kmbbmj5857
Жыл бұрын
Agree. Loved the original series. The characters and personalities were like people I could know. The remake they were just one dimensional. Tried to watch the remake and just couldn't do it. The original was classic sci-fi. The remake was like it was written by someone who had no clue what sci-fi was.
@badas45
Жыл бұрын
Ironic having a robot review battlestar
@NorthernANTs
Жыл бұрын
I loved the original it is 100% my favorite. Loved the story line so much more in the Original, then the new.
@hippiosposeidaon116
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. The original was far better. Furthermore, in my opinion the remake had so many plot holes that critics just overlooked for their own convenience. For example, something that upset me was that the remake made the character Anastasia Dualla commit suicide out of the blue. Really? No explanation whatsoever. She just shot herself. She was one of the kindest and genuine individuals in the show -- she reminded me of the original BSG. I also dislike the ending of the remake -- Baltar and Number Six seem to convey that all humanity on Earth has the Cylon genes through Hera Agathon. But then humanity starts all over again as we develop robots and cyborgs here on Earth. Then, what's the point if humanity is bound to repeat history again and again? There is a giant premise of futility in the remake versus the premise of hope that the original series offered. And what about the final message of the remake? In every cycle humanity is supposed to get more Cylon genes? Then, what's the point? Let's just be all Cylons and be done with it. On top of that, I may be wrong but if I remember correctly the remake started to lose audience so the show was not being renewed. This cause the showrunners to wrap up the series quickly, leaving a bunch of plot holes in its fast marching pace to wrap up the series.
@icecold9511
Жыл бұрын
Um, her suicide was easily understandable. Ty even brought it up with Adama when he tried to get Ty to shoot him. Everyone was tired, only to find this Earth. The original never had any sense anything was wrong.
@Benjilaw2288
Жыл бұрын
The original battlestar Galactica was better for another reason no mentioned. Was the look and design of the battlestar itself. The ship looked majestic. The bridge design alone, not seen in other ships was amazing. 👍
@SigmaPrimus
Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%, particularly where it was said that not a single, solitary character in the entire freaking reboot was likeable or relatable in any way ... at all. The reboot came out on the heels of 9/11, and when contrasted against the real-world events everyone was seeing in the news on a daily basis, it was abundantly clear that not a single, solitary character in the reboot was behaving in a way remotely consistent with how people would react in those circumstances. Suspension of disbelief gone. Plus there were so, SO many plot holes, it became clear the reboot script suffered from a complete lack of editing. It was, frankly, horrid.
@lynngreen7978
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. i feel like I'm alone on this. I gave the intro movie and pilot episode a chance. I caught the occasional episode, because there was nothing else on, and I was waiting for the show on Sci-Fi channel afterwards. I came away baffled why people couldn't identify the Cylon infiltrators. "Is the character terrible, and you *hope* the Cylons kill them? That's a human. Do they have redeeming characteristics, and you hope they survive? That's a Cylon."
@TheCastellan
Жыл бұрын
This also applies to Star Trek today, and for the same reasons. Both Discovery and Picard got the same problems...even Strange New Worlds. Only Lower Decks has shown the hope and optimism of past Trek, and it's the only 'nuTrek' I watch. Same for War of the Worlds, comparing the classic '53 film, and it's TV sequel series to the 2005 Cruise one.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I completely agree that a lot of remakes, including Star Trek and War of the Worlds, have lost the original essence and spirit that made the original so great. I think it's really important to respect the source material and pay homage to what made the original so special, rather than trying to modernize it and lose the heart of the story. It's great to hear that you enjoy Lower Decks, it's always good to see some hope and optimism in science fiction. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and subscribing!
@TheCastellan
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective I also like how Lower Decks depicted TOS as TOS, which is the first time since Enterprise in 2005.....NO visual reboot, or "25% difference". The only remake that I feel surpassed the original was Dreamworks' She-Ra and the Princesses of power.....very well done, characters actually ad...well, character. And is definitely NOT a 30 minute toy commercial, like the original one from 1985 was. As well as FAR better voice acting, animation and nothing insulting my intelligence....like the PSA's they and He-Man had at the end of each show (I'd grab the channel changer as soon as those began), and no stupid secret identity thing....and they depicted LGBT and diversity as it should be...as a normal thing, and not so much a gimmick or marketing ploy...as in not beating it over you head. Lower Decks succeeded in that area as well.
@johnmeneses7039
Жыл бұрын
@@TheCastellan I too am in agreement with you. The writers of those days were gifted enough to know how to develop certain plot lines. It never felt like an assault on your viewpoint or morality. Discovery is a total STD, I could not make it past 20 minutes of the first Episode and swore off it completely. It destroyed Gene Roddenbury's dream of a positive future of hope.
@clarenceartman7487
Жыл бұрын
I haven't been able to see any of the new Star Trek except for "the trouble with Edward" (highly recommend especially if you are a fan of TOS) and a few episodes of lower decks which were fun but I haven't seen enough to really know what's going on
@stevec5465
Жыл бұрын
Can't watch lower decks or prodigy. Definitely cringe.
@elviakerlick1163
Жыл бұрын
Both versions were deeply flawed, but I preferred the original for these reasons: 1. Likable characters. The protagonists in the original version were generally warm, decent people. In the remake, all the characters - human and Cylon - are unpleasant to varying degrees. Too many of them are self-righteous put-down artists. 2. Music. I'll take Stu Phillips' dramatic themes any day. 3. Costumes. The costumes in the original were great. In the remake, the Colonials look like ill-dressed furniture movers. 4. Sets. The sets in the original were bold and dynamic. The sets in the remake are, at best, pale versions of the original. In the remake, the Galactican sets look as if they were filmed at a water recycling plant. 5. Exterior designs. The original designs were iconic, the remakes were weak. There were multiple versions of Vipers in the remake, but none of them made the cut. The Cylon Raiders' "heads" look like Gort from the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still." 6. Themes. It's true that the original was a Reagan-Era rebuttal to the original Star Trek's progressive themes, but the remake's muddy theological conflicts were tedious. 7. Locations. The original actually had some shots done in Egypt. Any location shots done in the remake were made on an overcast day in British Columbia.
@neatcool4770
Жыл бұрын
BSG 1978 was epic tv, I was glued to the screen as a kid and even enjoyed reruns as an adult
@AFancyHippo
Жыл бұрын
Zac and Apollo saying good bye was very powerful when I was 9.
@christophersivley5289
Жыл бұрын
I agree with your points! Making Starbucks a female pilot was STUPID and her character trying to be tuff and swaggering like the original Starbuck was pathetic since the allure of the character was his CHARM and CHARISMA! The original storyline was well thought out and was made so the audience could follow along and fall in love with them and there struggle! The remake was so chaotic that most of the characters were such that you wanted to just shoot them your self!
@siatelecomsltdLondon
Жыл бұрын
The original Battlestar Galactica was also dark and serious. The only difference is that the original producers of the show got it right! This is why it worked so well.
@331Grabber
Жыл бұрын
It was darker in the first 5 or six episodes. the network made them turn it more into a family kid friendly show later
@billlyell8322
Жыл бұрын
Agree 1000% I loved seeing the original Starbuck plotting some scene to get rich only to have it fall apart at the last minute. It was hilarious at all the work he would do to accomplish when he could have been much more successful by being more straightforward. Lol. Even at that he was a loyal friend and would risk anything to help others. It was a refreshing counterpoint to the stuffy prim Apollo. I didn't like the gender swap they did to make him a woman. There where plenty of female warriors they could have cast the actress as that would have only changed the characters name. I saw it as an openly sexist change no no other purpose than removing a man from the cast.
@ChristopherSloane
Жыл бұрын
I watched both many times over. BSG was a favorite as a kid I loved every minute. It was disappointing some episodes and the series ended with some odd events. It was of course a product of that time period. The new BSG was done in a more realistic manner, darker and dirtier. It was much more spicy and twisted. It also did not have a solid ending but what can you do? Both were excellent for the decades they were developed in. We are all looking forward to the reboot soft one we hope.
@clarenceartman7487
Жыл бұрын
I hope it has much more in common with the original than with the reboot except I do hope the characters are realistic as well as likeable - in the original they were caricatures of themselves especially the villains and Boltar in particular - if you want to make Adama and Apollo estranged I'm ok with that as long as they are real people and not plastic and predictable - a growth arc or even a downward spiral into alcoholism would at least add some realism But yeah, mostly like the first one but more true to life rather than comic book - the original was too comic book
@mikegrantham7440
Жыл бұрын
For sure. The reboot was too dark and depressing. Plus, the female Starbuck didn't work for me. It could have been so much better than it was.
@davidklande
5 ай бұрын
I missed the long blue turbo flames and the laser guns on the remake's Vipers. Didn't feel like Galactica without that
@davidmcneill7403
Жыл бұрын
I’m always skeptical of these kinds of videos but found myself agreeing with you. Great work!
@johnmeneses7039
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on with your commentary, I am in full agreement. Having said this, I am still a fan of both the original and the remade series. I did find the gender swapping of Starbuck annoying, the remake definitely took a hit on that one. A buck is "normally" a male deer, so to have a female buck, just doesn't "seem" to fit. The original characters were definitely more colourful and lively. I just wish we knew what happened to the Battlestar Pegasus and comander Caine. I don't think it was blown up, and could have led to a spin-off series. (aah wish). Thank you for a great video, I have now subscribed and would love to hear more of your analysis of series in future.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and for subscribing to our channel! I'm glad to hear that you agree with the commentary in the video and that you're a fan of both the original and the remake. I understand your frustration with the gender-swapping of Starbuck, as it did change the dynamic of the character. And I also agree with you about the original characters being more colorful and lively. It's always fun to speculate about what could have happened with the Battlestar Pegasus and Commander Cain, and I'm sure many fans would have loved to see a spin-off series exploring their stories. Thank you for your support and for watching the video. We appreciate your feedback and are always open to new ideas and topics to cover in future videos. Keep an eye out for more of our analysis on other sci-fi series, and we look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
@cernstormrunner7263
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective the thing is, when they first announced that Starbuck was going to be female, they said it was to show how men and women can work together as equals. But by the end of season one it turned into "who is Starbuck going to end up with"
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
@@cernstormrunner7263 Thanks for your comment! I completely understand your frustration with the gender swap of Starbuck. While the intention may have been to promote equality between men and women, it's unfortunate that it devolved into a romantic storyline. I think creating new characters and giving them unique stories and arcs is a better approach to promoting diversity and representation in media. It's important to continue having these conversations and pushing for positive change in the industry.
@johnmeneses7039
Жыл бұрын
@@cernstormrunner7263 I feel that their reasoning was flawed, as they already had Sheba as an Ace Pilot in the original series and she was more than equal as far as I can recall. (memory Fading a bit - Old Age you know.)
@johnmeneses7039
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective Adversity at the cost of telling a good story is what is destroying the film industry these days. A fine example of this is Star Trek. In TOS, TNG, Voyager and Enterprise, they handled all kinds of modern day "re-alignment" in a skilled and professional way that built wonderful story lines. It wasn't rammed down your throat like that other STD. At least Battlestar Galactica remake managed to avoid some of that. Can't say the same for Franchise Killer Jar Jar Abrahams's Star Wars. We need the story tellers of old, they know exactly how to make people sympathetic to a cause without causing "in your face" offense. 🖖
@sailelerosewarrior2145
Жыл бұрын
I just can't agree all the more the creator Glen A. Larson, hit every note right battlestar Galactica 1978 the fight between man and machine good and evil. The tv show will live on forever in my mind and will not ever see another show like it dispute its remake!
@michelemartin7673
Жыл бұрын
Like several other people noted, you had it at "Characters". Those in the original series were people you could root for and would want to hang out with. Loved the relationships between Adama and his children (true children Apollo and Athena, and semi-adoped son Starbuck); between the "hero triad" of Apollo, Boomer, and Starbuck; and between the "couples", Apollo/Serina and later Apollo/Sheba and Starbuck/Athena and Starbuck/Cassiopea. Those relationships were believable and you got a genuine sense of caring between them. By contrast, after watching the new series for just a few episodes, I wanted the Cylons to win. They were actually more interesting. The only even vaguely heroic/decent character was Helo and it was clear the showrunners simply didn't know how to write for someone who was actually a decent human being. I also hated the total character assassinations they did in their portrayal of Apollo and, especially, Colonel Tigh. Tigh in the original series was a fantastic character and a groundbreaking role for an actor of color on 1970s television. The change they made to that character in the new series was abhorrent. We won't even talk about how they messed up Starbuck -- as someone else noted, they not only kept all of the vices, they also made the new version so angry and unpleasant. Blech. Oh, and of course when it comes to the music, there's absolutely no comparison. The original Battlestar Galactica theme is epic (and it's my ringtone!); the new one....not so much.
@LBF522
Жыл бұрын
I love you analysis of the original and the remake. In the original first episode, the President of the Colonies was a complete idiot in that he would not allow any of the battleships to stand by just in case. True Baltar was a traitor, but without the President being a useful idiot, Baltar's betrayal could not have succeeded. I also prefer the original. The gender swaping of Starbuck was dumb.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for leaving your thoughts! I completely agree with your point about the President in the original series. It added a layer of complexity to the story and showed how even those in power can make mistakes. I also think the gender swapping of Starbuck was a controversial move, but it's important to remember that remakes and reboots often bring new perspectives and interpretations to the table. Nevertheless, the original series will always hold a special place in our hearts. Thanks again for your comment!
@rodmoore1577
Жыл бұрын
The swapping of boomer was stupid also
@LBF522
Жыл бұрын
@@rodmoore1577 I forgotten about that. I agree.
@markuswolf2678
Жыл бұрын
Characters in the remake forgettable??? Eward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell alone elevated the new series to another level. There are so many scenes in the new BSG, which were unforgettable: The Lighter scene, the naming of the blackbird, "putting the fleet back together", "I've coming for all of you", Gaetas perfectly understandable mutiny, Duallas ending and a lot more. The difference to the original show was, that in the new BSG there were real people in an extreme situation, who had to make difficult decisions and "live with the consequences". It was far more adult. I admit, in the end they had the same problem as the original, where did they want to go with the premise? But as adult dramatic television the new series was far superior to the "jump on the Star Wars craze/mormon wagon train to the stars"-mix. Don't get me wrong, the old show has still a place in my heart, but it's childrens tv compared to the new version.
@barneytaylor9338
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but there is a right and wrong way of doing it. New BSG too often just got messy. And not in a good way. There was no sense of hope. Always the sense of they were going through all of this for nothing. "All of this has happened before, and it will happen again."
@marinagreens8910
Жыл бұрын
I agree that the original was targeted more towards kids (hence Boxy & dagget) but I still feel that the remake took the soap opera drama way to far which for me didn't make it adult it just made it a soap opera set in space and quite frankly pretty depressing. I guess I just didn't care for the the remakes 90% drama slash every characters miserable 10% sci-fi formula
@josephshivers7626
Жыл бұрын
the remake sucked
@tarkas566
Жыл бұрын
I must agree with you. I loved the original series, but found the remake to be unwatchable. It may well have been decent SF in its own right, but it was terrible as Battlestar Galactica. You mention some of the problems when discussing the characters and tone, but I would go further: the remake seemed to do it's best to destroy or ignore everything that was positive or different about the original. Even the ship was degraded from an example of the most powerful class of warship that the Colonial Fleet had to an old, outdated relic that was about to become a museum! To give credit where it's due, it was clever to have the neoGalactica's age be the reason it survived, but it was one heck of a disappointment to have what I considered to be the most impressive SF ship on either large or small screen reduced to a second-rate reserve non-combatant. And then there was what they did to the Colonial culture and the Fleet. People used to joke about the silly units that the original featured (MAD's satire was particularly biting, but very funny), and it didn't help that even the writers couldn't keep them straight, but things like that made the audience aware that this was not an Earth culture and never had been. The remake went too far in the opposite direction: the Colonial Fleet was portrayed as though it was part of the US Navy -- heck, they even wore ties! All the sense that the Colonials, though human, were from an alien culture went straight down the drain. So yes, the remake was an improvement on the original series in some ways (mostly minor ones like the spacesuits and 3D movement), but as Battlestar Galactica, it was a failure IMO. Had the original series been given more time and support from the network, I think it could gave gone on to be a big success (and Galactica '80 wouldn't have happened 🙄😉).
@ericc9664
Жыл бұрын
I grew up watching the original series on TV, and also love the remake. The simpliest way to describe the difference between the two series to me is.......The original is checkers, while the remake is chess. Both great games, but much different levels of complexity.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Battlestar Galactica. We appreciate your appreciation for both the original and the reboot. Your comparison of the two series to checkers and chess is a great way to highlight the differences in their levels of complexity. It's wonderful to see that you were able to enjoy both series, despite the differences. We're glad you watched the video and appreciate your feedback. Thank you for being a fan of Battlestar Galactica.
@blissfairchild7194
Жыл бұрын
the remake was dumb. Why did the space ships have ikea office furniture in them? the original had all sci fi looking furniture... and Starbuck was a man, a cool man. Starbuck sucked as a woman. They should have just named the remake, Battlestar Andromeda or something.. fans would have still come to watch, and they wouldn't feel insulted by the changes.. just name the cast differently than the original and BOOM! no one would be mad!
@ericc9664
Жыл бұрын
@@blissfairchild7194 I thought the same thing when the reboot first came out....could mot stand it. I rewatched 8 or 9 years later and fell in love with it.....some of the best TV ever. I have watched all 4 seasons, plus the tie in movies and web series about 5 times now......give it a chance.
@battlestarmarc
Жыл бұрын
Original Battlestar Galactica was the best sci fi series. Should have been a super franchise.
@JTruthseeker
Жыл бұрын
The Original BSG had more character and originality with space clothing, space vehicles, space weapon blasters in their story line, and with alien encounters along the way, as well as the characters worked better together to ensure their future survival. All of their ships had sub light speed in their space travel. Count Iblis as the cylon imperious leader was their greatest threat as he had evolved far beyond human capabilities in intellect and technology, but he was also the last surviving original cylon being from the original cylon wars who had sought to eradicate the human race before they too evolved as a species past their human potential to eventually far exceed his own. Eventually however the fleeing colonial fleet encounters yet another extra terrestrial human race far more evolved then their own by thousands of years, known as the Seraphs, who were the distant decedents of the original Lords Of Cobal and if it were not for this more evolved race then the colonial fleet would never have reached Earth 30 to 11 years later, because the Seraphs were able to help advance the colonial fleet's existing technology with more advanced space-time FTL travel, cloaking technology, and time travel capabilities, which we don't see until much later until Galactica 1980, which of course still didn't become possible until the introduction of a Seraph-Human hybrid character by the name of Dr Zee, who finally leads the Galactic and colonial fleet through an attempted final escape space-time FTL travel to Earth, which unfortunately we don't see much of in the original series in what would have been in the second season, but it is at least slightly hinted at later on in Galactical 1980. An original story line for an original perfect sci fi TV series, despite however the constant repeated space battle and space ship scenes, which I think could have been avoided despite it being a low budget film. Now the new BSG reboot was successful in avoiding the repeated space battle scenes, but had also eliminated altogether most if not all references to any possible Extra Terrestrial culture, making the colonial fleets more Earth human like then what it should have been, which in this case it was like replacing sci fi cultural originality with better CGI space battle effects, but for more low budget concepts while eliminating altogether the whole idea of anything being extra terrestrial and alien like, and futuristically culturally different beyond anything already known on Earth, with exception of them already having the space-time FTL drive, making the show to much Earth American socially dysfunctional melodrama like to even compare it to being anything believable as a true sci fi film, like completely Americanizing space alien humans who have never even been to Earth, while rewriting the Cylons as their own A.I. creations gone wrong as they see the destructive imperfection of the existing human race as they seek to be humanities replacements, like the A. I.s in the Terminator movie series, from which in this case the BSG reboot would have done a lot better as a completely different Si Fi film, which should never have been a BSG reboot.
@DarkLordDiablos
Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with the remake is that they took away the fantasy Sci-Fi elements such as giving every character names and making the original names the callsigns. Not to mention adding familiar clothing also detracted from the original like we are really going to believe a society that has developed interstellar travel just happened to also develop clothing that exactly the same as Earth. Lastly the need to gender swap two of the characters was stupid considering they had females on the original who did become pilots, one of which was Apollo's sister Athena along with Cassiopia and Serina aka Apollo's wife.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I completely understand why you would prefer the original series over the remake, and it's great to see that fans are still so passionate about Battlestar Galactica. I agree with you on the fantasy elements, such as the unique naming conventions and the imaginative clothing, being a big part of what made the original series so special. The remake, while more realistic, lost some of the magic and wonder that made the original so captivating. And I agree with you about the gender-swapping being unnecessary and detracting from the original's established characters. Overall, I think the original Battlestar Galactica will always be a classic in the sci-fi genre.
@DarkLordDiablos
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective You're most welcome and I'm glad you agree with the points I made as it seems alot of remakes of late 70's Sci-Fi shows had the same problems.
@johnmeneses7039
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective I forgot to mention in my first comment, I have the DVD Boxset shaped as a Cylon Head mask. So yes definitely a classic.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
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@darkman237
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with your assessment! I too prefer the original. The remake was too dark and the biggest thing that bothered me was somehow they had developed Terran swearing, weapons, and addictions. Was there even a laser pistol in the reboot series? How can a leader inspire when they want to take their own life week after week? By contrast, Lorne's version had hope in the face of tragedy. I think Galactica 1980 could have been really good, if a direction could have been decided on. Thank you!
@marinagreens8910
Жыл бұрын
yeah the terran swearing, weapons and addictions bothered me as well but it also bothered me that they were so lazy as producers that they had them (mostly wearing terran clothes like suits I mean I understand why they did it (cheaper and easier than paying someone to design these things) and to them they probably assumed it really didn't make that big of a difference but for me I couldn't suspend my disbelief that this was otherworldly every time I heard them using common phrases today or wearing clothes common today it just bothered and distracted me too much and felt like in insult to the original show and its fans.
@darkman237
Жыл бұрын
@@marinagreens8910 I completely agree! Did you see Caprica? I did enjoy that.
@marinagreens8910
Жыл бұрын
@@darkman237 I didn't see caprica but maybe I will check it out
@clarenceartman7487
Жыл бұрын
@@darkman237 I've not heard of it? Who's in it? What's it about? (No spoilers please)
@darkman237
Жыл бұрын
@@clarenceartman7487 Richard Hatch, Dirk Benedict, Lorne Greene were the main stars. It's available on Tubi streaming channel(free)
@ericelander9936
Жыл бұрын
Original great. Remake crafted for "modern audiences." (before that was even a thing. Shout out to The Critical Drinker)
@xray86delta
Жыл бұрын
I share your opinion completely! I think you covered just about every point! 😉
@joseliano325
Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how I can’t find a single comment from someone who disagrees with your premise. They call this an “echo-chamber”. I am a fan of both versions of the series. The characteristics that you describe about the original series prove that it was DIFFERENT from the remake -not that it was better. One might as well make the argument that for the very same reasons the remake was actually superior. In fact, one version of the series received multiple awards -including a Peabody, and the cast was invited to speak before the United Nations, while the other was cancelled twice ! Both versions of BSG have their merits and weaknesses, and both have their fans and detractors. Both are good in their own ways. The original was a product of the post-Star Wars sci-fi / fantasy fad, and the other a reflection of the post-9-11 world. I like and appreciate them both.
@darkhighwayman1757
Жыл бұрын
I was a 7 yr old boy when it came out and I felt like this was tailor made for me. I instantly fell in love with it and all the characters. I did like both but the remake didn't resonate as deeply. Part of that is that im not 7 anymore but the new one was really grim for the sake of grimness. The remake, Cylons wanting to destroy humanity just didn't make a lot of sense to me. They were functionally immortal, why even bother with humanity? The original ones hated all biological beings....thats cool. There was no ambiguity with it, its life or extinction.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! It's great to hear that the original Battlestar Galactica resonated with you on a deep level. I completely understand your point about the remake being too grim and the motivations of the Cylons not making a lot of sense. The original Cylons having a clear hatred for all biological beings was a unique aspect that added to the tension and drama of the series. It's great to see that the original still holds a special place in your heart. Thank you for your feedback and support.
@darkhighwayman1757
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective when I wanna hit the feels machine. I play the intro and it 1979 again
@darkhighwayman1757
Жыл бұрын
@@Advances_in_Perspective And i love warhammer 40k and love grimdark but....bsg should have been more hopeful. I still liked it but though
@sacatomatos41
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting take. I was happy to have seen both the original and the remake. I enjoyed them both, but they were very different series in character while nominally telling the same story. I do like the persistent optimism of the original more than the relentless darkness of the remake, though the latter was well done. I enjoyed watching your video, as it provided some food for thought in comparing the two. It seems to me that each was a product of its time.
@josephshivers7626
Жыл бұрын
fuck the remake it sucked
@leniere309
Жыл бұрын
As far as I am concerned the remark was and is a total disregard for the fans of the original, if it wasn't for us the interest in making another show would not have even been there. The original idea was completely scrapped, instead of the humans being heroes they were the bad guys, the old Frankenstein and his monster redo, in original the Cylons were their own race not an abandoned slave machine race produced by humans. The remake destroyed the originals humanity and changing some of the male characters into females was and is laughable. The ramake was a kick in the guts for the people who kept the interest alive, 30 years of support was wasted, there were younger people who grew up watching the show with their parents who became fans as well. Cheers and thanks for this video.
@Advances_in_Perspective
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Battlestar Galactica. We understand that there are different perspectives and opinions on the reboot. The show creators aimed to pay homage to the original while also adding a modern twist. Although the reinterpretation may not have met everyone's expectations, it still generated a lot of interest and sparked discussions among fans. We appreciate your support for the original series and your passion for the show. Thank you for watching.
@Frosenborg
Жыл бұрын
Pretty spot on comparison to be honest. I love both versions but the remake is one of the greatest shows ever made, it's not a sci-fi adventure, it's a drama that takes place in a sci-fi setting. The questions the show asked about morality and ethics, how far are you willing to stray from your beliefs of what's right and wrong in the name of the greater good? The show made you think, thanks to the showrunner Ronald D. Moore who also worked on Star Trek: The Next Generation.
@bobbova8708
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video ,you are 100% spot on. I never cared for the remake not having any aliens due to the objection of the lead actor.
@BC_VORTEX_CHANNEL
Жыл бұрын
I agree the original was far superior. ABC is always killing the golden goose. BSG was supposed to have two-hour specials, but they wanted the show every week. The ratings started to go down and so they cancelled the show. They should have just had four two-hour specials every year. Then the show could have lasted for five years with a good conclusion. Anyway, the original is far superior to the new version. Why does everything new have to be so dark and serious? The people in the 1970's knew how to have fun.
@webstersempire
Жыл бұрын
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS VIDEO ARE 💯 FACT. 1978 BSG is the greatest 👍
@cloud1930
Жыл бұрын
The original Battle Star Galactica was far superior than then the remake.
@donaldheisler4322
Жыл бұрын
I have to admit that when I first saw the remake, the first thing I said was, "Where are the cylons and muffit!" They were the 2 things I liked most about the show when I was a kid. The other thing I said was, "Starbuck isn't a girl!" By the end of the first episode of the remake, I was out. I never watched another episode. I remember how often Richard Hatch talked about bringing the show back. It's too bad that never happened. The other thing I must say is how AWESOME those uniforms were. I'm a huge Star Wars fan and I've never seen costumes as cool as those uniforms in B.G. Well, that's my 2 cents. Thank you and good night! :)
@suzannekirkwood6392
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed both but the original will always come out tops to me. The visual effects on the original were of their time, but totally suit the narrative of a technologically superior group of robots hunting down humans
@Sonny-Spoon
Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you. I thought the remake had some fantastic and original scenes like when the Galactica did the tactical jump into a planets atmosphere to launch vipers. But overall the original is just infinitely more rewatch able. Great likable characters and a story you can understand.
@BattlecryGWJ
Жыл бұрын
They're really two different shows based on the same premise, saying the new series is a remake of the original is a rather unfair statement. I really enjoyed the original Battlestar Galactica which made it difficult for me to get into the new show, so much so that after watching the miniseries on SciFi it was a decade or more before I bothered getting into the series. When I finally watched the new series I wound up really enjoying it as well, probably because I came back to it expecting something different rather than just a remake of the original.
@shumoon1
Жыл бұрын
I agree. If you treat them as 2 separate, very different series that have the same name, then you can enjoy the latter series. However, keeping the same names for the title, characters and enemy, they were piggybacking on the original, and therefore it is a remake.
@maxwellkrem2779
Жыл бұрын
The MUSIC.... you saved the best for last! Thanks for encapsulating it so well. Basically, you cared about these characters, and overall the whole thing felt approachable. Only complaint: you should’ve closed out the video with the BSG theme.
@Blades-wi4fk
Жыл бұрын
The remake always felt like "The West Wing" in space for my viewpoint. Tried watching for a couple seasons, it just never really grabbed me. Stop caring or watching before the end of season 2. Some shows do start out slow, Babylon 5 is a good example of this, the first season is rather slow and episodic. Season two is where the show starts to hit the ground running.
@kmbbmj5857
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to the dark tone and political machinations, Babylon 5 has it beat hands down. That's the right way to do it. The actors in B5 created characters who you could believe would act that way in those circumstances and make you care for them. G'kar and Londo's arcs were so well done. The BSG remake was a long, sad, way behind B5 in that sense. It was neither good sci-fi nor good dark drama.
@tripwire6306
Жыл бұрын
Monday nights 7.30 1978, that music.... Much as I love the remake, it didn't have that feeling. Here's a challenge, Battlestar78 with today's tech.....a man can dream can't he?
@santiagoarestegui
Жыл бұрын
I disagree with you. The remake's complexity makes it better for me.
@jwc00789
Жыл бұрын
Very well said and excellent analysis! The remake was sort of Battlestar Galactica crossed with "24"
@markeffend165
Жыл бұрын
I agree cause I knew Richard hatch personally at comic con and I expressed how I love the original so his suggestion to me before he passed was to try the new series so I bought all 4 seasons not bad but the original rocks better
@prophetofthesingularity
Жыл бұрын
I like them both but they are really 2 different types of shows. They share the name and many elements but the reboot was much more of a slow burn/dramatic kind of a series. I like it when re-boots do something different instead of just recycle the original. This frees up the writers and allows them to be more creative when they do not have to stick to canon or a storyline that they were not involved in creating they can use more of their own writing strengths.
@expfighter5112
7 ай бұрын
the ONLY BSG 1978 was 100% the best, the remake was utter garbage! Starbuck is A MAN!!!
@Mouse_Metal
4 ай бұрын
To be fair, the Starbuck from the remake might be a man too. :D
@robertomiranda386
Жыл бұрын
Eu assisti a série clássica e adorei cada episódio. Além disso, li os livros de bolso do episódio piloto e do planeta do gelo. Nestes descobri coisas mirabolantes a respeito dos Cylons, uma raça de reptilianos que sucumbiram ao uso da cibernética para levar o império cilônio a conquistar toda a galáxia. Em BSG - 2004, a proposta foi outra. E apesar das batalhas espaciais serem extraordinárias a cada temporada, o conteúdo do que foi proposto inicialmente se mostrou um contexto político tradicional. O bom de BSG reimaginada foram os efeitos especiais e a temporada final, associando os centuriões cilônios clássicos ao período da Primeira Guerra Cilônia.
@doctorclu
5 күн бұрын
5:00 remake music was like someone fell asleep while at the piano and their finger was on one key.
@paulsmith-ll9vg
Жыл бұрын
as i only watched the pilot movie of the new show, and apart from the odd scene that i`ve watched on youtube, i cannot say that either i`ve watched a lot of the new version, or that i have much of an opinion on it, but what i do know that even me watching the opening titles of the original show and especially hearing the music of the tv theme is more than enough to having me thinking yet again about one of my favourite shows of my childhood, and certainly one of the best old tv shows that you could ever watch, and despite the odd false moment on the odd episodes plot, just watching the first couple of episodes is enough to get you hooked on the adventures to come, and i don`t even mind watching galactica 1980 because it was probably what i was watching during the summer holidays, and when you grew up watching the likes of this show, buck rogers in the 25th century, the incredible hulk, the amazing spiderman, the six million dollar man, and wonder woman, then your taste in television shows is to be admired.
@TheBlindDyslexic
Жыл бұрын
Grew up with the show, Loved it. Loved how in the series Baltor was spared from getting a um a uh Marie Antoinette hair cut.
@SideSwipeGTA
Жыл бұрын
Seems like a bit of a reach to me. No examples were given to make you point. So the new characters aren't clearly identifiable architypes but which ones are inter changeable? They both had state of the art effects for their time periods but they were still constrained to tv budgets, the reboot BSG was on the Sci Fi channel after all. Which sequences in the new show overshadowed the human drama? What parts of the score of the original is all that memorable, other than the theme? The ratings and reviews and the success of the show in general seem to defeat your argument that the tone of the new show made it less accessible and less enjoyable for many fans. Is the presenter trying to narrate this video in character as a Cylon? The pronunciation and cadence of narration seems like TTS to me. Weird.
@billywynn233
Жыл бұрын
I liked the remake !! But original was better in every way , but the remake made me so depressed and no matter the outcome still felt like there was no hope. ? Just too dark.
@gsr4535
Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with you. I enjoyed both but the original had a charm.
@donnie2832
Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with everything you said. Also have to mention that the original Battlestars looked better, and the new series can’t come close to the original Living Legend episode.
@David-kq6vy
Жыл бұрын
Was a kid when the original premiered and loved it. Agree 100%
@jamesgraham814
Жыл бұрын
I thought I was alone by hating the reboot!
@ronbzoom8531
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember watching the original when I was a kid. Initially it was exciting because of the special effects. And of course Star Wars mania was enormous. But I must respectfully disagree with this video. Yeah we can get nostalgic and romanticize the pass. But I'm sorry, the original is not a very good show. It is nowhere even remotely on par with the reboot. The original is basically an expensive kids show. The reboot is a far more interesting character study, nuanced, anything but black and white. It's simply better in every way. But you know, to each their own.
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