Let me be 100% clear about the eBay incident: SOMEONE DEMANDING A TRANSACTION OFF EBAY, THEN DEMANDING YOU DRIVE TWO HOURS IS A SCAMMER. Period. No discussion. I understand why some people might have misinterpreted, as the entire exchange wasn't posted (I only put what would fit on one screen), so here's the full thing: - First, he said he was going to come pick it up and bring cash; Fine. - Then he wanted me to drive two hours each way to meet him. I agreed and told him to "buy" the item on eBay to make it official, but not pay until I get there. - Then he said $800 was too much and he was going to buy one from a local shop. I said that's fine and to buy it on eBay if he changed his mind. - Then he agreed to meet for $800, but REFUSED to close the transaction on eBay. - Then I POLITELY told him ANY transaction outside of eBay makes me uncomfortable and he should just buy the one from his local shop. - THAT'S when his angry messages started and only THEN did I tell him I'm "tired of asshole scammers". An eBay seller with 6 feedback (for cheap items) trying to pressure me into driving two hours without even pressing "buy it now" on eBay (not paying, just agreeing to buy) is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT A SCAMMER. If you think otherwise, you're only going to get scammed. If you come in these comments telling me otherwise, maybe we can sit down and talk about it. I know this great stuff called Herbalife that I can offer you as well. Maybe if you're lucky, I can hook you up as a distributor...
@michaelsworkshop9031
5 жыл бұрын
Guy sounds flaky, but I almost wonder if you had him wrong? Devil's advocate here - I would be all for buying a PVM in person (done it several times) ensuring there was no risk of shipping damage, and paying cash during the in-person exchange. There's zero chance of chargeback this way for you as the seller, unlike any online method. If any of those sellers I bought from had said "yeah come on by, but you still have to buy it online", i'd be puzzled and hesitant. The only people I could see insisting on that would be businesses who are trying to run every transaction they do on the books for accounting reasons, accountability, or whatever. The two hour drive is a huge ask, but if he asked and you said yes, hey, it worked out in his favour at no cost to him - I've done stranger deals. Not trying to be difficult -- obviously this guy was all over the map -- just thinking it may not be as predatory as it might have seemed. I'm horrible at figuring out what other people are intending sometimes, so I try to give people the benefit of the doubt (and I've had some great results from deals that seemed weird, or hassles, with fiddly sellers myself). Best wishes - great video.
@TheSwartz
3 жыл бұрын
I love how Rob is such a nice guy, in fact overly humble, but then is able to turn on the heat when it's needed!
@RetroRGB
3 жыл бұрын
LOL, I try so hard to always be the best version of myself...but sometimes you gotta keep it real :)
@shivasthong4924
3 жыл бұрын
I hear he''s a wanted man down in Equestria.
@sdekaar
5 жыл бұрын
we are so lucky about it in France. all the crt tv was rgb. ^^
@danielbadger4985
2 жыл бұрын
Send me one to the US lol all of the ones here ain't unless you buy a high dollar one.
@RedArremer
5 жыл бұрын
I remember that Ensureship fiasco. I've got a lawyer I'm friends with that I would have sicked on them had they pulled that crap on me. They can be fined by the state they are in for several hundred thousand for refusing to pay out claims, because then it's considered fraud. Then again, even giant insurance companies will do everything they can not to pay out on a policy. Progressive once tried to hire a lawyer for a defendant that killed their client in the desperate hope they could help him get acquitted (total conflict of interest). It didn't work, and they ended up having to honor the contract with the family of the victim anyway.
@mikebain5037
4 жыл бұрын
This is great advice and should be seen by MORE retro-gamers and anyone who wants to view old systems (Pre-Dreamcast,Xbox) like they were meant to be. Thanks for keeping it real RetroRGB! Subscribed.
@dieuduong7178
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Bob. I just recently bought my 2nd PVM online, and got a great deal on it. Then I saw your video, and actually a lot of these tips make perfect sense (common sense). I missed out on a local 20 inch PVM for $100. But saw the same exact model thru ebay for $100 plus $100 for shipping, so I offered $50. After taxes I paid about $170 delivered. And you're right, although it's untested, the person seemed really cool about any issues. You just have to be be nice, and not assume everyone is out to scam me, I can only control what I can control...It came packaged well and it works! I just need to calibrate it. Sony PVM-2030. Thank you for your incredible insight and content to the Retro Gaming Community
@nunyabaznus7851
5 жыл бұрын
the first thing everyone need to do is really consider deep down inside whether getting a RGB Monitor is the right choice for themselves. because for many people, a standard consumer grade CRT, Specifically the "Sony Trinitron" or Sony "Wega" Televisions, are Perfectly Acceptable for most applications. Point #1. SIZE. those professional grade monitors are TINY. sitting on a couch won't work, unless you squint, or move close with your face like 4 inches from the monitor, which causes eye strain and potential damage to the eyes. the perceived effect of better visual fidelity is mostly "Observer Bias", Smaller TVs looks better because everything is shrunken down and compressed into a smaller area, thus the observer doesn't notice the subtle imperfections and "Jaggies" that would be more noticeable on a Larger Display. Its the same basic concept of why a Gameboy Micro looks better than a GBA, or a PSP Go looks better than a PSP 2000. and why PSOne games looks incredible on a PSP, and SNES Virtual Console games looks incredible on a 3DS XL, when those same games on real hardware might be long in the tooth and look awful by todays standards when blown up on a huge TV. (PlayStation Classic). Point #2. its possible to achieve a close approximation of a Professional Monitor using a Standard CRT, with a little extra work and effort. All TVs generally speaking use the same internal components, Resistors, Capacitors, Diodes, Microchips, But the main difference is the "Internal Settings", and Factory Calibration. Consumer Televisions were specifically calibrated for Watching Movies and Cable TV, while Industrial monitors were specifically calibrated for Video Editing and Production. and its possible to CHANGE the factory presets through the Hidden "Service Menu", NOT the normal menu, i mean the Second, Hidden SERVICE Menu only available to Technicians and Repairmen. which can be accessed by pressing a certain button combination on an official remote, which can be found Online on AV Forums. So by tweaking things like Color Saturation and Scanline Width, you can improve the quality of ANY Sony Commercial TV to closely match that of a Professional Monitor. Point #3. CABLES. this is extremely complex a topic, but to make a long story short... "RGB Component Sucks ass, S-Video is King of the formats". Start with GameCube, and those infamous RGB Cables that sell for $400 on eBay... that price is absurd to begin with, But even if you had them its still Not worth it since only a Dozen GC Games actually support Progressive Scan, and Most Games can only display at 480i Max. So the Benefit of Component RGB is Lost, and restricted by the Aspect Ratio of the specific games. PS2 is the same way, only a handful of PS2 games ever supported 480p, and the process of forcing 480p in many games is so convoluted its really not worth the effort to even care. AND... beyond any of that, there is a good argument to be made that S-Video actually looks BETTER compared to the Few games that did output higher than 480i, because the Jagged, Rough, Low Polygon textures of Early 3D Games are kind of "Smoothed" out and are more Warm and Soft and gives a more Nostalgic feeling closer to the way we originally played them back in the day, whereas "upgrading" to RGB Component shows the Flaws and Sharp Hard Edges and exacerbates the limitations of the hardware. And if RGB isn't that great of an improvement, it kind of doesn't really matter what display you use. Point #4. HDMI and HD Remakes. obviously the easiest, simplest way of improving quality of your cherished games is installing an "HDMI Mod" or HDMI Converter. But at that point its entirely incompatible with all CRTs regardless. (yes there are exceptions). And this includes "Classic Mini Systems". after a certain point, the best option for some might be Jumping to a HDMI solution and not even bothering with the hassle of running obsolete hardware. And there is another issue with regards to "HD Remakes". with a 3DS XL you have Zelda Ocarina HD, Mahjorahs mask HD, Star Fox 64, Luigi's Mansion, all Remastered in High Definition, plus the BEST Mario Kart, and the Best Smash Bros to date. By simply getting an XBox One you have access to BETTER, Higher Quality versions of Crash Bandicoot Trilogy, Spyro Trilogy, Duck Tales Remake (removed, but physical discs exist) Rare Replay with Banjo Kazooie, Perfect Dark, Conkers bad fur day, from the Xbox Store you have Turok 1&2, Duke Nukem 3D, Doom 1&2, Wolfenstein 3D, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, just so many classic games are rereleased and remastered, even if superficially, to modern standards that its kind of silly to cling to the past worrying about a slight difference in quality here or there.
@GameplayandTalk
5 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I'm always scared to have stuff like this shipped online, but like you suggested, shipping on a pallet is probably the best way to go.
@dwcoleman
5 жыл бұрын
Great tips, I was lucky to get a 14m2u for $75 Canadian, recapped the power supply and then the deflection circuits to fix. I even bought a spare neck board and main board serviced reasonably cheap.
@jack0654
3 жыл бұрын
You probably won't see this, but what issues did you have that needed fixing? I have problems with my 20M4 where the screen ripples or shakes left to right, and I've been pointed towards the deflect circuits/power supply to fix it. Thanks :)
@williamanthony175
2 жыл бұрын
You're very lucky.
@cybernitemusic
5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I bought from a guy in Canada who always sells PVMs. I noticed he raised the prices a lot since the time I bought it... anyways he packed it super well and I waited at home for the truck to drive by, and when it did I ran out and helped the postal worker deliver it to my apartment. That PVM was in really good shape except it had a very loud high pitched buzz to it which I eventually “fixed” with a hot glue gun, was basically a coil vibrating. Another guy on the same Facebook group as myself bought from the same seller, exact same pvm, and his was destroyed in shipping even though it was packed the same as mine, which I thought was very good... a box inside a box basically. Amazing what can damage a pvm. Beaconsfield electronics is the name of the ebayer. I think the prices are a bit high but he always has stock. And with shipping it is truly a coin flip even with great packing.
@Beaps73
5 жыл бұрын
What a handy little video, great info buddy.
@Topesio66
4 жыл бұрын
You are the most kind and useful resource. I bought a Sony PVM following exactly this guide and everything was great. Thanks!!
@RetroRGB
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the nice comment. I'm really glad I could help and I'm especially glad your PVM purchase went well!
@6XGate
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's normal or just a suburban thing, but I've had freight deliveries straight to my house. The semi-tractor would be in the road moving the pallet to the auto-loader, slowly having that thing drop the monitor/cargo, driver, and palette jack to street level. Then they just wheel it into my garage.
@TheRealGara
5 жыл бұрын
The joy of buying off ebay. Ebay covers the buyer so insurance is only for the sellers benefit. You mention working with the seller to file an insurance claim to get your money back but it doesn't work that way with eBay. The buyer would either get a full refund and keep the broken monitor or ship the monitor back at the sellers expense and get a full refund (including shipping). Any kind of insurance claim would be on the seller. Which is why it's kinda pointless to volunteer to pay for extra insurance when buying on ebay. You're just paying for more protection for the seller. Basically anyone who sells on ebay should acknowledge they could take a total lose.
@bstar777777
5 жыл бұрын
Tip for sellers... when packing a Commodore 1084s to ship overseas, be sure to pack it with more protection than a shallow layer of foam peanuts. The person who just paid you 140 pounds will most likely not be pleased when he receives said monitor with a chunk taken out of the corner, broken power button, massive crack on the side and various broken solder joints.
@Pixilshooter
5 жыл бұрын
I got my 20" PVM delivered on a 1/4 pallet. Workd out great :-)
@RetroRGB
5 жыл бұрын
Not all places offer 1/4 pallet's...but hell yeah, great idea!
@sam-oh3wy
5 жыл бұрын
these monitors are amazing. I hope everyone that wants one gets one at a reasonable price.
@NJRoadfan
5 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: Alot of the studio equipment resellers should be able to handle both the freight and pallet shipping scenarios as they tend to move ALOT of equipment. If they can't, its a good tip off that the seller isn't a high volume dealer of 2nd hand studio equipment. Also be aware of the ebay rules with UNTESTED/AS-IS auctions. Buyer protection does not apply to these items at all and the seller will not make any attempt to show the item working or tested (no matter how easy that might be for them).
@ElricSowrd
5 жыл бұрын
From my point of view right now the only benefit of getting a CRT TV is just for Light Gun games.
@ThatOldSchoolMagic
5 жыл бұрын
I use to think there wasn’t any point to CRTs anymore since i grew up with them and was too young to really appreciate them at the time. But as i got older and really started to pay attention to the way the games looked. Somethings really blew my mind the first time i noticed them. But here are my 5 Reasons on why they’re definitely worth it for retro games: 5.) 2D games Usually have some special effects that are more apparent on CRTs than on HDTVs. Different graphical effects that make the games feel like you’re playing something more than what it is as a 2D game. On an HDTV these don’t look the same. The Crystal Tower’s very first area in Lunar the silver star is a good example as it makes good use of the different layers. 4.) Some games like Resident Evil, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy have those painted backgrounds which were designed specifically for CRT. If you try to play them on an HDTV they won’t look as Good/clear as they would on a CRT. You have to see it in person to really see how great it looks. A lot of the lettering looks perfect from subtitles and background images. 3.) Some games that were specifically made for CRTs have like a Darkened look on an HDTV. A few notable games are Red Dead Revolver, Armorine project Swarm, Doom 64 and Alien Trilogy on PS1. When looking at them on a CRT the games are usually at the perfect brightness on a CRT. On an HDTV however the picture image looks too Dark and you’ll need to crank the brightness all the way up. If you Ever get a chance to Play Red Dead Revolver on PS2. Look at it with S-video/Component on an HDTV then look at it on a CRT. Its literally a Night and day difference. 2.) Lightgun games of course are definitely a must. Playing games like Virtua Cop, House of the dead, CryptKiller/Henry Explorers, Area 51, Duckhunt, TimeCrisis, Lethal Enforcers, Snatcher & Policenauts. 1.) For whatever reason 2D games with lots of Animation tend to look beautiful on CRTs. Games like X-men vs Street Fighter and Street Fighter 3 Third Strike look incredible. 3D games with a lot of Jaggies clear up quite a bit and look a hell of a lot more playable than they would on an HDTV. Its also a must for Most of the N64’s game library.
@Toyaddict81
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob, perfect timing as I’m currently selling my BVM D24
@RetroRGB
5 жыл бұрын
If you're in the US, please contact me directly. I've been putting people with the most sought-after monitors in touch with people who'll preserve these things...not just play it for a month, then list it on eBay for twice what they paid. I'm (obviously) not accusing you of doing that, but I don't want to see that happen to any more BVM's ;/
@Toyaddict81
5 жыл бұрын
RetroRGB Bob, thanks for reaching out. It has been a busy week for me. I’ll send you a private message here soon. Hopefully by the end of the day with more details. Thanks!!
@HansOilaf
3 жыл бұрын
great video and who doesn't enjoy some fine vintage male nude art
@Robosan4000
5 жыл бұрын
A little off topic. What PVM's/BVM's are considered "holy grail"?
@BreakingNVain
5 жыл бұрын
Qwerty
@ucfjtm
5 жыл бұрын
5 tips.. Dont ship them without a pallet (x5)
@montegee
5 жыл бұрын
OMG, the first eBay example you showed was the one I bought. LOL. Seller is a non-profit with decent reviews online, and I was able to drive there to pick it up. It needed some overscan adjustment, but it's been working great, so far. Oh, and it was actually a 20M2MDU. For some reason, the same listing could be found with both descriptions.
@RetroRGB
5 жыл бұрын
That was a fair price (for eBay) and looked like a good monitor. I hope that example came across as the opposite the first few...basically, just an example of buying a PVM on eBay.
@montegee
5 жыл бұрын
It seemed like a decent deal. It actually went back up to $444 when I was about to purchase it, so I decided to make an offer for the previous $333. I considered going lower, but they seemed like a good non-profit, so I decided against it. Glad to hear your thoughts on it, though.
@riggel8804
5 жыл бұрын
@@montegee I've got that same monitor. Mine has a really soft image. It's comparable to my consumer grade wega tv. How are you liking it?
@montegee
5 жыл бұрын
@@riggel8804 I'm liking it, though it's been a while since I've spent much time in front of a CRT of any kind. My last was a 200lb, 40 inch Sony that I gave away to a friend years ago. Hah.
@riggel8804
5 жыл бұрын
@@montegee. That's cool man. The m2mdu was my first rgb monitor. The jump from composite to rgb is life changing. Happy gaming!
@RetroGames4K
3 жыл бұрын
Those monitors should look awesome in videogames, they are expensive and difficult to find. I only can emulate them...,😓
@TheRealGara
5 жыл бұрын
All good advice that assumes you're buying the monitor off another entheusist. In general the only people selling these things that have a game system to hookup are the scalpers. Any normal person is going to be annoyed (as you are) by all the questions. It's only 5 minutes of work because you have all the equipment and know how it works. Auction sites(other than eBay), e-waste, or just random people who stumble on a studio monitor likely wont be able to do any of that. So you kind of have to roll the dice
@RetroRGB
5 жыл бұрын
Well, I've bought from the auction sites and they're generally SUPER easy to work with. They'll usually have 100% honest descriptions and say things like "pulled from a working environment, but not tested". In fact, I've even bought monitors "as is" that showed up broken and still got a refund...cause I was polite, sent a video of the issue and asked the seller what they thought I should do. The tips were really to warn against the deliberate scalpers out there.
@TheRealGara
5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Yeah, definitely no standard of service. You're usually at the mercy of the seller so being polite is definitely recommended. It's a shame that people even need a reminder of that. My experience that buying off anyone that isn't an enthusiast is usually an as-is situation. They don't know how to test the displays beyond a power up and are usually not willing. Your views of the people who ask the most questions are the most troublesome is pretty universal with big sellers. I've had sellers tell me that they just aren't interested in selling to me because of requesting videos and other details. It's ridiculous but they just don't want the hassle. I just think of it as part of the adventure of buying old electronics.
@bjeezy831
5 жыл бұрын
Great tips ty Sir.
@momoqahtani6545
2 жыл бұрын
I have found a sony trinitorn HR 1454Q and not sure if it is a very good option for playing old consoles ( NES to PS2 )? Any information that I need to know !
@RetroRGB
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that one is great!
@clawhauserTheGamer
4 жыл бұрын
Great video can I get scart to to component
@bloomerb4162
3 жыл бұрын
Most sellers won't do most of these things.
@mjmolby
5 жыл бұрын
I recently found a JVC TM-H1900G on the curb being thrown out. I took it home to find it has some burn in from a surveillance camera (time and date) any recommendations to help mitigate the burn in? I noticed if I bring the brightness down, as it was cranked all the way up, it helps some.
@riggel8804
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's anything you can do
@XtraSmiley
5 жыл бұрын
The best thing for burn in is to use smoked plexiglass (basically tint). It will hide a lot of burn in and it's what arcade games did back in the day. It's not a perfect solution, but it works well enough if your burn in is distracting.
@ThatOldSchoolMagic
5 жыл бұрын
Mohammad Karimi Not sure if you’d know what to do for this situation but have you ever seen like these weird moving lines that pop up whenever the volume of the CrtTV is up. It always tend to happen when playing PS1/N64 games and onward. The only way to stop it from happening is to have the volume down. I’ve seen it on two TVs so far.
@XtraSmiley
5 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOldSchoolMagic Yeah, it could be a few things, but grounding issues come to mind. I'd check out the KLOV forums, they have a section with monitor repair and the experts there should be able to help you out.
@RyanMartinez
5 жыл бұрын
Good tips for ebay and craigslist selling in general. There are a LOOOOOOOOT of assholes out there. Wish I could just snap my fingers and...•:.':-*•.:- . .
@sunnohh
4 жыл бұрын
What you don’t like proto gay porn?
@RetroRGB
4 жыл бұрын
I've got no problems with adult porn of any kind...but I just don't think any respectable reseller would have it on the same account as electronic equipment - Just open a new account!
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