Sometimes: Thanks, Jury, u saved this great song! Sometimes: Wtf, Jury?
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you there^^
@opi7488
2 жыл бұрын
They favorized Malta many times and robbed Russia many times in last decade
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
@@opi7488 well... robbing Russia has political motives... some of Maltese entries were just eye candy for the jury. Like je me casse or Chameleon. So of course they prioritized them.
@theofficialdetectivepikach3262
2 жыл бұрын
Its the same with the tele vote in my opinion
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
@@theofficialdetectivepikach3262 for instance?
@thewolter9703
2 жыл бұрын
Juries always bullies Poland and tele doesn't like Malta
@PoProstuBartek964
2 жыл бұрын
True. Poland 2016. Michał could win. But jury said no, no. We underrate you and you didn't win. And that happened.
@PoProstuBartek964
2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately Junior Eurovision isn't politician. But wait. Last year and Europe underrate our song typed to potentional winner.
@PoProstuBartek964
2 жыл бұрын
If country is victorious everybody hate them and think about next year and planning to destroy plans of victorious country.
@adriankiedos599
2 жыл бұрын
@@PoProstuBartek964 ???
@eurovisiontszai9125
2 жыл бұрын
Updated version: Not anymore, this year juries put Ochman on 7th in semi final, while Emma was out of top 10.
@SnonymousCat
2 жыл бұрын
Of course Poland is first XD
@jordangrech4433
2 жыл бұрын
How come!! That year was obviously meant for Poland to win. Usually these songs go well with jury, but it was the opposite. Rigged
@ericgabriel3774
2 жыл бұрын
@@jordangrech4433 Bro huh????
@fraisier3710
2 жыл бұрын
@@jordangrech4433 what😐 this song was so bad
@user-jo5ph9uo8p
2 жыл бұрын
@@jordangrech4433 i think the song was plagiarized There is one with a really similar melody (can't remember it now)
@SnonymousCat
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jo5ph9uo8p many Eurovision songs are plagarised or at least they sound similat (for example Cyprus 2015, Romania 2014, Israel 2015) so it's not a point of Poland to fail at jury
@DaveVampireSlayer
2 жыл бұрын
Jury: This is awful! Televote: This is awesome! Jury: This is awesome! Televote: No is just, ok.
@danielkrasovsky45
2 жыл бұрын
Melovin was robbed by the jury
@Frozone135
2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Michał Szpak?
@pontus7153
2 жыл бұрын
@@Frozone135 Or Robin Stjernberg? Actually nevermind......
@danielkrasovsky45
2 жыл бұрын
@@Frozone135 I have, but he still got a good placement, while Melovin literally got all his chances destroyed by the jury
@confushion3075
2 жыл бұрын
he really wasn't
@PlatinSam
2 жыл бұрын
To round up the Top 50 I took songs with a difference of 12 places. These following entries also got a differene of 12 places but didn't manage it into this video as I took the points difference in this category. Portugal 2021, Poland 2015, Serbia 2016, Malta 2019, Serbia 2021.
@realdanish
2 жыл бұрын
cool
@esc_victor3963
2 жыл бұрын
Michał Szpak😭
@yesjunioreurovision194
2 жыл бұрын
Yes , the jury was awful with him
@quicxer
2 жыл бұрын
🥲
@M3RT27
2 жыл бұрын
WHAAAT!! Norway (2019) was in the first place in tele but only 18 in Jury? they got robbed really hard there
@origo1165
2 жыл бұрын
more, if it was only for juries they wouldn't have qualified from their semi XD (iirc Norway finished 11th in their semifinal)
@Quirino26
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should've placed higher with the juries, although I don't see why televoters voted it first either.
@Victor_Gabriele
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but let's look with some historical distance: Looking from 2 years later, Soldi and Arcade were ultra popular, so 2019 wasn't even the biggest problem
@kirstyyyyy
2 жыл бұрын
I get that we always complain about jury, but examples like these show how they're pretty useful at times. Like I'm personally a massive fan of songs like Israel 2016 and Cyprus 2015, both of which were really low in televote and (kinda) saved by Jury. I'm pretty happy with the system as it is, maybe removing some of the power of the juries
@lucas5665
2 жыл бұрын
That's if the jury's actually do their jobs. There were plenty of deserving songs throughout the years that they let stay in the semis
@jjhmr
2 жыл бұрын
Well there's always going to be people who like any songs... I personally also preferred France and Switzerland to Ukraine and Italy this year. But it's a matter of principle that it should the more popular songs that does better. No matter how imprecisely the televote is at capturing that, it's many times better than the opinions of a few select individuals.
@Empoart
Жыл бұрын
I will forever remember that moment when Sweden got only 21 televote points
@dontmindme5163
2 жыл бұрын
I love that people says that Sweden is only successful because of the juries but they’re on here just 2 times lol They are beloved by both the audience and juries.
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
You don't count the songs that Swedish guys write for other countries. Like Austria 2018 for instance. If you count all of them then you will see how many there are.
@lexezlao
Жыл бұрын
example: Sweden 2016, bad song that both juries and public overrated
@paaailla9472
10 ай бұрын
I know people see this video as proof that juries are needed but honestly, the only thing I see is that the juries need to be from a more diverse background. It's obvious that all the songs that they saved fit into a norm (either pop or a ballad) and they kill any cultural entries or niche genres. For an event that prides itself in celebrating diversity, it's pretty ironic that anything that tries to be different gets punished. Obviously, we need juries but they should be more in number & at least have some knowledge in other genres of music so that they can evaluate them properly.
@bearre8828
2 жыл бұрын
5:01 why tele? why?
@vincentesc
2 жыл бұрын
Yes....
@oliwiereekk
2 жыл бұрын
yeah i don’t get it either
@Treilio
2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites from that year!
@sageh6987
2 жыл бұрын
1:27 what a crime!
@Hjallapenos
2 жыл бұрын
Why only Sweden getting hate when Malta is overrated by the Jury time and time again?
@ohandthefracking
2 жыл бұрын
maybe because Malta was left in semifinal for a considerable amount of time not to mention they dont have any voting block while Sweden is the "queen" of Scandinavian voting block lol?
@Hjallapenos
2 жыл бұрын
@@ohandthefracking Malta was left in semifinal cuz they had bad songs not because of the Jury. Sweden has always had enough televotes to go to the final so even without the jury they would still go to the final. Malta is pretty much a part of Italy and the only reason Sweden's neighbours give them points is because they have similar music taste and not because of political reasons. This year for example Sweden didn't get more votes from their neighbours than from others (in terms of jury). I got all the facts so don't talk out of your ass please. I just find it funny how people jump on the hate train like dogs without reasoning.
@ohandthefracking
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hjallapenos being frank i wanted to also mention that some malta's NQ were deserved since the songs and staging were collectively bad (2011,2017,2018)...BUT Sweden isnt as good as you may think lmfao (televote flops in 2013/2018 and this year too, 2015 win thanks to the juries liking recycled david guetta's song and do i need to mention 2019?)
@Hjallapenos
2 жыл бұрын
@@ohandthefracking I'm not saying that Sweden doesn't get a lot of jury points. But it seems people give Sweden hate simply for being consistantly good. Malta for example can get a pass on being loved by jury because they send bad songs now and then which doesn't make sense...
@ohandthefracking
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hjallapenos sweden isnt good honey.....but yeah malta is just as bad most of the times
@MattaNL
2 жыл бұрын
ESC 2022 update: #6 Moldova 2022 (2nd tele, 20th juries, total 7th) #24 Australia 2022 (24th tele, 9th juries, total 15th) #46 Azerbaijan 2022 (23rd tele, 10th juries, total 16th)
@Sara-lx8jy
2 жыл бұрын
I’m still mad for Poland 2016 and Denmark 2018 😪
@mieroth
2 жыл бұрын
This video is the perfect proof why the jury is needed. The vast majority of these are amazing songs that are massively underrated by the televote. In comparison the songs that have done much better in the televote here often aren't good at all, there's only a few cases where a genuinely good song gets overlooked by the jury. Most of the time I absolutely agree with the juries more than the televote, which is why I think a combo of the two is ideal rather than just having one or the other. I agree that having only a jury would be boring though since part of the fun is having audiences in different countries participate, but removing the jury would be a big mistake. I think some people forget how messy the results of ESC were when there was only televoting.
@bertbrezel8605
2 жыл бұрын
Think the same, the jury keeps the quality high and thanks to the tele voters the music is able to evolve 'cause they push the different things, sometimes. I also like it to be able to vote, to help the songs I like, the televote is also an other way to put the population of Europe a bit closer to each other as usual. I like the current mixture of it!
@ok..9382
2 жыл бұрын
no, the public knows better
@bertbrezel8605
2 жыл бұрын
@@ok..9382 Not always, but both sides don't 'cause they're all humans, at least. A jury member from Germany this year (Consi) told in a video of the official Germany Eurovision channel in which categories they have to rate a song, some of them are staging quality (which could explain Sweden' s victory in 2015, Italy was amazing, too, but the Sweden ones was more touchable) and singing quality, so countries can't "just make a great or weird show" to win 'cause it's still a song contest. We need both part of votes, the top of the tele voter favourites (Italy, Ukraine, Finland and France) were at least in the top ten this year (France was also a jury favourite, but still). Bulgaria would be 18th or so, not 11th, even with her amazing voice. Both sides mess up, sometimes, so it's good that the one side is as strong as the other. So I appreciate the actual mixture of both. You have to win at least voters from both side (a few, at least), to win the whole contest.
@ok..9382
2 жыл бұрын
@@bertbrezel8605 I'd have to disagree, maybe make 25% vs 75%, but that's very annoying when a small group of people decides what's good and gives votes to someone and than public doesn't like it, and they get very little points, for example Sweden 2019, when it was the juries favourite but got very little televotes, or Poland 2016, when juries gave them 4 points but public put it on 3d? place... It's not completely fair
@allmight2795
2 жыл бұрын
@@ok..9382 Not completely but still fair 100% televote era was very questionable
@zeolo6703
Жыл бұрын
Do this with jesc I this it would be interesting bc the placings differences would be much less since there are less participating countries 🧐🧐
@zeolo6703
Жыл бұрын
*think
@madjack6667
2 жыл бұрын
2:09 how does it work?
@papadopoulos1
2 жыл бұрын
This transition😬 1:58
@Johannes-zy6ij
2 жыл бұрын
Is austria 2015 a mistake?
@miguelgilgracia3022
2 жыл бұрын
What happened with Austria 2015 does not make sense
@codelyokotm3761
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot "Hurricane - Loco Loco"
@bearre8828
2 жыл бұрын
21 by Jury 9 by Tele 12 Difference
@PlatinSam
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, just have a look at my pinned comment :)
@vincentesc
2 жыл бұрын
So France is always underrated by the televote...
@vincentesc
2 жыл бұрын
@ΑλέξανδροςR yes we were *overrated*
@vincentesc
2 жыл бұрын
@ΑλέξανδροςR The only song that I hate from my country finish 2nd overall, but a masterpiece like "Mercy" finished only 13th...
@tasthar3505
2 жыл бұрын
Allez Ola Ole? Requiem?
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentesc I wouldn't say overrated since the public gave the entry 3rd rank. My problem that I was hearing Edith Piaf singing in the back of my mind during her entry so her vocals seemed lacking to me.
@marivijard
4 ай бұрын
all i remember about that is it being so repetitive?@@vincentesc
@dominikwimmer7213
2 жыл бұрын
If you only look at one split voting result, my country (Austria) would've a lot of top 10 placements . 2011: 5th place 2014: winner 2016: 8th place 2018: winner And we would've finished a respectable 15th in 2015 and 11th in 2017. Sadly there is always another voting that always kills our hopes and dreams (except for 2014 ofc) 😂
@12irissu14
2 жыл бұрын
My Favorites I am Yours (Austria 2015) - 6 Pionts I Can (UK 2011) - 6 Pionts Allez Ola Ole (France 2010) - 8 Points Waterline (Ireland 2012) - 8 Points We Got Love (Australia 2018) - 8 Points Love Me Back (Turkey 2012) - 8 Points Dance You Off (Sweden 2018) - 8 Points Running on Air (Austria 2017) - 10 Points Lights and Shadows (The Netherlands 2017) - 10 Points You (Sweden 2013) - 10 Points Friend of A Friend (Czech Republic 2019) - 10 Points Beauty Never Lies (Serbia 2015) - 10 Points Nobody But You (Austria 2018) - 10 Points Growing Up Is Getting Old (Bulgaria 2021) - 12 Points Higher Ground (Denmark 2018) - 12 Points Lion d'ici (Austria 2016) - 12 Points Under The Ladder (Ukraine 2018) - 12 Points L'enfer et moi (France 2013) - 12 Points Spirit in The Sky (Norway 2019) - 12 Points
@qwertylello
2 жыл бұрын
Hi peeps frome the KZitem live!
@josephnewsome2935
9 күн бұрын
Really shows the bias towards Sweden
@alexandrepalma1546
2 жыл бұрын
lol portuguese this year placed 7th in jury and 21st in televote why does not appears in the video?
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
Was mentioned in the pinned message.
@silanvayidan9393
2 жыл бұрын
Go Home Jury
@vodktruffel
2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't malta 2021 on this list.
@Railbird_
2 жыл бұрын
They were 3rd (jury) and 14th (televote) making the difference 11. The list starts with a difference of 12.
@hep8008
2 жыл бұрын
I thank juries for saving Portugal 2021 and Czech 2019
@anxinhoo
2 жыл бұрын
I am yours 🇦🇹 13th jury but 0 points ????????
@imaxim3032
2 жыл бұрын
Yeap, due to voting system: judges and televoting place was summed up and transformed to points (for example, 1st place from jury and 8th place by tele is 9 pts). And it’s happened for every country and then they are sorted in descending order. Country which scored minimum points got 12 pts, 2nd minimum result 10 pts and so one. Hence, if jury or televiewers put country in 21-26th place there are was no chance to got any Eurovision points from this country. That’s happened with Austrian song. They got almost in every country 19-27 places by televoting and although the jury put them in high places in total points came out to zero.
@anxinhoo
2 жыл бұрын
@@imaxim3032 hooo :(
@annemijnmaas568
2 жыл бұрын
I love your video’s, but isn’t it true that Sprit in the Sky should be the other way around (18 from tele / 1 from jury)? They got a little less than 300 points from televoting but had technical difficulties during their jury performance, so their jury score was low
@marivijard
4 ай бұрын
18th place in jury vote, 1st in televote. not 1 point from tele
@user-gy3gu2bj9x
Жыл бұрын
Jury seems to hate poland so much
@kaW3_4
2 жыл бұрын
First
@Mc-xman
2 жыл бұрын
Second
@shellos31oeste72
2 жыл бұрын
ALBANIA 2009 WHAT A BOOP
@aurelb5412
13 күн бұрын
so many basic af songs praised by juries wtf
@kaW3_4
2 жыл бұрын
Israel : 👁️👄👁️
@brucechadsith5519
2 жыл бұрын
Jury has no taste at all.
@luisfernandez4057
2 жыл бұрын
They have More taste then televote
@tasthar3505
2 жыл бұрын
This video is a solid proof that both jury and televote have no taste at all.
@alex5623
2 жыл бұрын
@@tasthar3505 If no one has taste... Everyone has taste 🤔 ?
@kingofthesands
2 жыл бұрын
@@luisfernandez4057 Someone is salty their country got robbed by the televotes 😂
@luisfernandez4057
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofthesands and Miki? 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@artiaslari5594
2 жыл бұрын
Juries focus only the voice .The public has better taste.
@lunaskye2352
2 жыл бұрын
If they focused on the voice then Italy would be winner in 2015 since the guys had the best vocals out of all of the contestants. Jury is focused on what in their opinion would sell well.
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