If the cool concept doesn't work for the game, it's a bad concept. That's why he rates it one star. The best example I can think of was that one that turned the game into chess. Yeah it's a cool idea, but once you think about it, it's horrible for hearthstone. 1 star.
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa
5 жыл бұрын
Except that plenty of joke cards manage to find a home in things like adventures and tavern brawls, and there's nothing stopping Blizzard from even printing a joke set some day a-la Magic the Gathering's Unglued/Unhinged/Unstable.
@tyrayentali7041
5 жыл бұрын
If the HS devs want to create something ridiculous or something that simply breaks the rules of the game, then it's their choice. Players can't put themselves into that position so that's why you can't rate joke cards seriously.
@CM-oe9if
5 жыл бұрын
Well exactly, they are in singleplayer or controlled optional brawls. Printing those cards mean you are forcing other players to play a wacky game mode when all they want is to play is regular hearthstone.
@motymurm
3 жыл бұрын
@@tyrayentali7041 Yez, they actually can. It is the exact purpose of creating fan content, as a mental exercise of how the game can work. Rejecting any concept which deviates from norm is narrow-mindness
@tyrayentali7041
3 жыл бұрын
@@motymurm Players can't put the standards for Hearthstone cards so they are required to correlate to the already existing designs and balance of cards. If card designs don't fit or work with the game as it is or are overly under- or overpowered in comparison to already existing cards, then they are a bad design. It's a whole different thing if Blizzard creates such designs because they can set the standards for the game as they please.
@kanonxsulfur
5 жыл бұрын
6:02 isn't that card image the new amumu skin from league of legends?
@HostileGamer
5 жыл бұрын
u are correct
@jasperosterlund6308
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Was gonna comment this but was too late. Here have a like
@loone8535
5 жыл бұрын
i didnt knew that lul
@MajkaSrajka
5 жыл бұрын
get back to your part of the internet you filthy lol player! :D
@aweeb3069
5 жыл бұрын
odd, maybe you should stop looking down on others and rather keep a clear mindset of, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything :D
@RazorOfArtorias
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Krenkle's nice review! Also he's a Pirate because of the ilustration, he has only one leg and one eye and in the in full HD picture you can see his pirate eyepatch with the white skull in it. Also I like the Pirate tag for Pirate Warrior decks where you have a bunch of weapons buffs.
@ChrisDaPatriot
5 жыл бұрын
I think the Eternity Stone could be balanced by changing the reward to "Add 3 Eternity Shards to your hand", and the shards would be 0 mana spells that only read "You can only play one Eternity Shard per turn". That way you'd get three combo activators at the cost of slightly limited hand space for a few turns. The stipulation of only being able to play one per turn is to prevent something like VanCleef from becoming insanely powerful for nothing. EDIT: Actually, it's probably not even worth making it a quest at all, just a one mana spell that adds the shards to your hand, like Razorpetal Volley.
@Rustbar
5 жыл бұрын
7:13 did somebody said [Thunderfury,Blessed Blade of The Windseeker]?
@mikapiipari3376
5 жыл бұрын
You was faster than me :D
@Rustbar
5 жыл бұрын
M Piipari :)))
@konnermorris1753
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. I disenchanted it.
@joaquinelias7092
5 жыл бұрын
I think someone said Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of The Windseeker!
@thesevenceas2723
5 жыл бұрын
I definitely heard thunderfury, blessed boade of the windseeker
@rayko4271
5 жыл бұрын
Drinking Game: Everytime Trump says "1 Star" or "This card will never be printed" take a shot.
@tyralion3666
5 жыл бұрын
Rayko spoiler alert: none of these cards will ever be printed, because they’re custom cards and not Blizzard made.
@ralesarcevic
5 жыл бұрын
No human being could survive this
@dubspool
5 жыл бұрын
You owe me a liver
@Molon_Labem
5 жыл бұрын
*to your face
@twils2428
5 жыл бұрын
I have liver of the old now
@Bruh-el9js
5 жыл бұрын
yeah you know what also limits design space ? shudderwock and yet he's there
@ChanGardeningToolPark
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that crazy thunderfury is technically actually a card today lol but you can run two of them and the condition is easier to satisfy and for a more aggro class? Boy things have changed
@cathsaigh2197
5 жыл бұрын
Krenkle shouldn't be Cultmaster stats because equipping the weapon isn't nearly as good as drawing a card. You don't get a benefit of multiple mechs dying, and if you have 1/1 mechs lying around you're unlikely to get to keep a big weapon if you want to save it. It's much more limited.
@ZackBogucki
5 жыл бұрын
Yep. He pulled the Cult Master comparison out of the blue there... even if equipping a weapon was worth the same as drawing a card, I don't know why you'd feel the need to match the power of a tribe-specific class Legendary to a neutral common card that doesn't see regular play. I also think the Pirate tag fits great on him, visually and mechanically. He'd feel at home in both Mech decks as some extra burst and Pirate decks that focus on stacking weapon buffs and pushing for tempo.
@collinguo2175
5 жыл бұрын
You're right that they're not comparable, you're wrong in that Krenkle's ability is way, WAY better than Cult Master's. It's basically "create, draw and play an X/1 weapon". Especially in a pirate deck, which tends to be aggressive, that's going to be more value than your average card, and it's certainly more tempo, plus while it is slightly more restrictive you can very realistically get two weapons in one turn (trade, hit, trade). Even just trading an average 3 drop, this is like 4 mana 5/3 deal 3 take some damage, which is absolutely insane. Edit: Oh and to be clear, the cult master comparison makes total sense because draw+play a card is a very standard way to measure mana value, I'm just saying they're miles apart in power level. The only part of trump's analysis that's questionable is the pirate thing, since steampunk pirates are a thing, though maybe not in WoW?
@cathsaigh2197
5 жыл бұрын
Getting an X/1 weapon might be as good as an average card. It would be a lot better if you'd get to attack with each weapon once you get it, but you get to do that only once a turn. Cultmaster would SUCK if it could draw only one card per turn. To get said weapon in your aggressive pirate deck you'd need to have a mech and have that mech attack something other than the face, and your mech would have to die in that attack.
@warptens5652
5 жыл бұрын
equipping a 4/1 weapon is like drawing a 0mana heroic strike, it's vastly superior to drawing a card
@ZackBogucki
5 жыл бұрын
(EDIT: Olli beat me to the punch on a couple of these points. Didn't mean to spam some of the same stuff) Collin Guo All good points, but I wouldn't right this card off as busted without playtesting it. It's tricky to evaluate the power spike this card could provide versus the drop in consistency from diluting a pirate deck with mechs, if you wanted to go the aggro Pirate Warrior route. You also need to consider that trading in a mech to get the weapon means NOT sending that mech face (or 2 mechs if you're doubling up on the weapon as you suggested), making it a good answer to taunts but potentially awkward in other cases. The scariest thing in my mind is how well Nightmare Amalgam would fit in that deck, since it could curve straight into Krenkle while also getting pirate synergies (and then potentially curve into Greenskin the next turn). Steel Rager would also give some scary burst if you make it to turn 8. There's definitely potential to exploit there and it would definitely be a strong card, but given the other power spikes in the game right now, I just don't see the sense in holding it to Cult Master's level as Trump did.
@Yhsanave_
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the quest would work better as something like "Combo X cards" and you have to resolve the combo effects for them to count; and the reward is a 0 cost spell that says "At the end of your turn, add this card to your hand" that way you have to actually do something to make your combo effects always live. Alternatively, it could make it so all your combo cards are automatically live for the rest of the game.
@warptens5652
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of the merit of the card lies in its simplicity. Make it more complex and it becomes "yeah, whatever".
@PlutoDarknight
4 жыл бұрын
Just don't make it a quest. The Eternity Stone 1 mana Legendary Rogue Spell Add The Eternity Stone to your hand.
@LeagueOfLou
5 жыл бұрын
Pumpking would make more sense if the text was, when this minion takes damage.
@isskipperinokripperinolate3380
5 жыл бұрын
No.
@gottagofastest
5 жыл бұрын
haHAA
@greenprofilepic8310
5 жыл бұрын
Why does this have nearly 100 upvotes
@demenetori7976
5 жыл бұрын
@@greenprofilepic8310 Its likes you filthy redditor
@iamhub2736
4 жыл бұрын
Why is this think making me laugh????
@caelandemaziere7939
5 жыл бұрын
Hey trump, I've thought for a while now that maybe it'd be a good idea to add a third starbar for flavour since right now it seems to be mixed in with design a bit, although design is still the most important one for that starbar. I feel like it could let you rate design easier without getting influenced by flavour and allow you to dock points for for example the warlock card name not really fitting the class. Just my two cents, completely understand if you don't want to clutter the screen too much. Thanks for providing us with these videos by the way, they're really interesting and give me a bit of insight in hearthstone design.
@driftwisp2797
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like it doesn't need its own star bar, since Trump can just say what his issue is with the flavor. I also wouldn't want to have to add a minute of him just saying "Yeah, it's an elemental, it does elementally things, four stars" to every video.
@MajkaSrajka
5 жыл бұрын
How about LISTENING to what he speaks, and not being butthurt about Trump categorizing things differently than you?
@Begeru
5 жыл бұрын
How would you use all 5 stars for flavor? What’s the difference between 2 star flavor and 3 star flavor?
@driftwisp2797
5 жыл бұрын
My instinct is that five stars would be cards that are noteworthy, whether they're interesting or tell a story or are just exactly what that lore character should do. I'd give it to cards like Yogg Saron, Forgotten Torch, or Arch-thief Rafaam. Four stars would be cards that aren't impressive but check out thematically, like Fire Elemental. The elements are a Shaman thing, you'd expect Fire Elemental to be a mid size or large minion that blasts things with fire, and that's what it does. Or Sorcerer's apprentice. You'd expect it to be a weak mage minion that helps you cast spells, and that's what it is. Three stars then are cards that are kinda bland but have no real issues like Boulderfist Ogre and Fiery Imp or that do something you wouldn't quite expect them to but still makes some sense, like Dancing Swords drawing the opponent a card when it dies, presumably because they're looting it. Two stars then is for cards that either have some minor issues like old art Witchwood Grizzly looking like a ghost but having the Beast tag, are just plain confusing like Anub'ar Ambusher (Why exactly does it return something else to your hand when it dies?) or that seriously misrepresent a canon character, like Dr. Boom being a really big minion, and one of the strongest cards in the game, when he was just some random side quest that was really easy to cheese. One star finally is a card that really just feels wrong, for one reason or another. I can't think of a real card example off the top of my head, but it's easy to make things up like "What if Fiery War Axe were a priest card?" or "What if Felfire Potion had the same effect as Circle of Healing".
@IHadALifeOnce
5 жыл бұрын
@@driftwisp2797 Thunderfury blessed blade of the windseeker as a shaman card? The class cant even wield the weapon. Thats an automatic 1 star flavor imo.
@matticus99
5 жыл бұрын
5:39 in regards to design, just make it say (Heal for 20 - your current health or 8). Gets rid of the synergy with nethersoul buster, while still making it somewhat viable. Destroys flavor but could see play. Maybe tweak some numbers around.
@allhailderpfestor4839
5 жыл бұрын
One man army: too good against certain decks and too horrible against most other decks. What a horrible card. At least some other cards had cool design with right balance.
@nutsontheroad91
5 жыл бұрын
8:14 Giggling inventor uses a GvG card so even if the subreddit didn't take issue with your ranking system your point is still flawed
@houstisiomcfinasto9665
5 жыл бұрын
Annoy-o-Tron didn't have GvG specific text on it. Sinister Squashling does have Witchwood specific text on it. That's the difference.
@mist1714
5 жыл бұрын
@@houstisiomcfinasto9665 when gvg was around mech was tied to harvest golem wasnt even called mech
@kaydendubmen3330
5 жыл бұрын
@Mist but class tags arenr a unique effect per say and its been made clear that they dont only belong to GVG whereas oyher mechanics like inspire are almost only their original set
@walkergossett572
5 жыл бұрын
There is a principle in debate called "fiat" which (essentially) says that the debaters are debating should an action happen rather than would an action happen. I think this approach of should over would is a good way to approach custom hearthstone cards and I'm glad you are reviewing cards more in this way now. Thanks Trump.
@GrapplingHookJones
5 жыл бұрын
There are watermarks behind a card’s text that tell you what expansion it came from. Eg. it is indicated that the Pumpkin was imagined for Witchwood
@nintendork67
2 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to see if any of these cards end up becoming actual hearthstone cards. Like Overwhelming Force becoming Unstable Shadow Blast.
@joshuaqwertyx
2 ай бұрын
😮
@Lasergurka
5 жыл бұрын
1:03 No, basic cards do not have the 'white circle thing', they don't have a rarity rating at all, so presumably they would NOT count as a common card...
@gabriel_cooper
5 жыл бұрын
honestly i'm happy trump is acknowledging feedback and improving his format accordingly,i really appreciate him being open to improving his reviews :)
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa
5 жыл бұрын
Not open enough if you ask me, considering how overly defensive he's been of his bad decisions for the last 10 videos.
@birbborb
5 жыл бұрын
Note the "instead" on Back from the Brink - it only deals as much damage as your remaining HP (up to 20).
@HaloBrock99
5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you very much for receiving the criticism and taking action one way or the other with an explanation.
@bl4zeburn
5 жыл бұрын
6:10 Infernal Amumu :D the “Friendly Fire”
@kamek200
4 жыл бұрын
What if the One Man Army card made it so that every time you play a weapon it summons a minion with the same stats, you'd have to remove the wind fury and it would still be weird to balance, but I think it's closer to something good than the original.
@Phatnaru0002
5 жыл бұрын
Trump. I really wish you had a third rating for 'concept'. If someone has a good concept, but lack design or balance, it deserves some recognition.
@MajkaSrajka
5 жыл бұрын
He has category for concept. It is called "design".
@TVNmanufacture
5 жыл бұрын
well design is the combination of concept and execution. So just rating good concepts badly because of the execution is fair.
@MajkaSrajka
5 жыл бұрын
Well 1 star designs are often due to execution of the idea being not viable for hearthstone (too complicated, deply unfair and unfun, hard to implement or impossible to balance [due to card text]). It would be like Design - Patches that is pulled at the start of the game. Ok - it is shit due to balance, but is it a good design? How could anyone fix this design? Make it 0/1? No. Design is inherently imbalanced, and you cannot re-balance it.
@ramsigutman4707
4 жыл бұрын
The Card at 7:13 actually exists with Stormhammer in the Descent of Dragons expansion, having the same statline only differences its for hunter and says if you have a dragon on board. (Trump was even the guy showcasing this card)
@SoMuchNoise1
4 жыл бұрын
Really funny to see thunderfury again now that Stormhammer was printed and given to Trump for preview :B
@Demazman
5 жыл бұрын
Because the squashlings have echo, the squashking is adding two to your hand every time you play one and they would just clog up your hand. Seems not intended but there isn’t really a workaround
@AvelineMelena
4 жыл бұрын
I like that thunderfury basically became a hunter weapon
@ThatOneRandomSteve
5 жыл бұрын
I think Snobbish Noble would work better if it was like a 4 mana 5/6 that could only attack rare or higher cards, since I feel it would fit into the flavor of "Ew, don't touch me, peasant." Though not sure anyone would play it at that point.
@zachariz1490
5 жыл бұрын
Zenhotta maybe a 7/7 for... let's say 4 mana that can only attack a certain type of card like elementals.
@RealityRogue
5 жыл бұрын
I still think flavor should be a separated from mechanical design. For example the first card and One Man Army had a lot of flavor but would never work so it just got 1 Star. It would be cooler to get 5 stars in flavor and 1 star in design.
@DarknayseLyn
5 жыл бұрын
One man army was just fine and would work just fine. Your deck is only spells and weapons. This would give the spellstones a deck to play in, and allows for very different gameplay. It isn't just trade and smorc, its "how do I put together a deck that actually works here?" You need some early game cards, which would involve the likes of shield bash and iron hide, along with early weapons which are sadly lacking right now for warrior, but could have new cards printed with OMA. follow that up with midgame cards and draw, like forge of souls and brawl, with the dead mans hand combo and some bring it on to go late game/infinite armor. All of this with strong weapons like supercollider and Gorehowl, and the hero cards. These with the new Omega Assembly and Dr. Boom allows minions to be played too, even in the early turns. All of that, and that's not even considering Wild and its good weapons along with spells that you can use with Razor (sleep with the fishies, bouncing blade, etc.) some execute for big threats, shield slams. OMA was a great card idea.
@ikrena4701
5 жыл бұрын
@@DarknayseLyn so, that's great, but that's a deck building consideration. What happens when the game actually starts? Is it "focus on board control with your weapons and smorc the opponents face"?
@Begeru
5 жыл бұрын
Why does he need to give a star rating for flavor. He either says it has good flavor or it doesn’t. Like what would the difference between 2 stars and 3 stars for flavor be?
@RealityRogue
5 жыл бұрын
@jomsart He goes over it anyways. It’s just for more clarity. Plus if a joke card comes up it’ll get an automatic 1 Star and 1 Star in his current system.
@mishacoleman7103
3 жыл бұрын
Wow they printed overwhelming force (close enough)
@MageToasty
5 жыл бұрын
You can add another rating for when you say "cool card", so that some viewers arent confused when you give a "cool card" one star in design
@ancient7716
4 жыл бұрын
There should be a 'Rise, Thunderfury!' Quest with Thunderfury as a reward because it is originally the way to earn this weapon in wow. Quest could be 'play 3 weapons.' This could be a 5 mana 5 attack/ 3 durabilty weapon with 'also damages minion next to whom you attack', and Deathrattle: Summon Al'Akir the Windlord.
@typoko
5 жыл бұрын
I love how Shaman is the only melee class that actually can't use swords.
@vini6
5 жыл бұрын
typoko priests?
@junamboqcg2369
5 жыл бұрын
Druids can use swords?
@dakota6885
5 жыл бұрын
@@vini6 Priests dont have weapons in Hearthstone
@dakota6885
5 жыл бұрын
@@junamboqcg2369 Druids dont have weapons (besides the obvious Kobolds one where every class got a weapon)
@jfgcz1
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Trump, just add the category “usability”. So you can judge wether or not it would be used but could also judge the design. Meaning how it looks and how good the idea is!
@maurice4348
5 жыл бұрын
Trump, thank you for listening to our feedback and incorporating it into your card reviews. It takes a big man to listen to others and a bigger man still to act on that
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa
5 жыл бұрын
I mean, sure, if you ignore how whiny and defensive he's been in the last 10 videos because people realise how awful he is at enforcing his own rating system and want him to change it, which he's still refusing to...
@imaloony8
5 жыл бұрын
Snobbish Noble could be fixable if it said something like "Reduce damage that this card takes from common cards by 1" or something like that. That could work. It'd probably be a poor card, but pretty interesting and fun at least.
@albertosara416
5 жыл бұрын
The worst part of The Eternity Stone is that the quest finishing animation would be triggering every single time, and we already have enough cancer animation times with Shudderwock and Test Subject combo priest deck.
@CosmoProductions666
5 жыл бұрын
Friendly fire is a really well designed card and interesting card. Would also fit in a deathrattle shaman
@kuelhomaster
4 жыл бұрын
''Overload is too easy to maintain'' ''If you have a dragon doesn't lose durability''
@guikhgyjv5688
5 жыл бұрын
A "Flavor" star rating would Be cool
@excusemebutwhat3587
2 жыл бұрын
As a person who's deck that I rely on is nearly 90% commons, snobbish noble is a giant counter to my deck.
@Mad.Dementor
4 жыл бұрын
Looking back. As a side quest eternity stone is dope
@brovahkiin4302
5 жыл бұрын
I think you should add a third category for creativity, that would cancel out any confusion between a "cool" 1 star card
@KuroroSama42
5 жыл бұрын
Another fix for the eternity stone could be to add "reduce the cost of a combo card by 1 mana" to the reward. If you're out of combo cards, it does nothing, but if you have one then it's like 0 mana next time.
@SlurgDurgler
5 жыл бұрын
did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
@MajorMystery
5 жыл бұрын
Back from the brink could be worded as "Set your hero's health to 20 lower than it is currently. If it goes below zero, heal the excess."
@calebbarnhouse496
3 жыл бұрын
that is a far worse description
@fearfury6725
5 жыл бұрын
Krenkle honestly isnt too strong, I mean most mechs have low attack. but it could be a problem with super lategame minions, a 10/1 weapon maybe isnt too nice
@driftwisp2797
5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Krenkle isn't *that* bad when he doesn't give you a weapon. He has three mana worth of stats for a four mana price, so obviously it's not that good, but it's not terrible. Then if even a low attack mech dies he gets a ton of value. Even if you somehow can only manage a two attack weapon, that's still effectively playing a three mana 5/3 alongside a one mana 2/1 weapon with battlecry draw a card. And it's stronger than that, since the opponent is forced to remove the 5/3 or they risk a ton more weapons.
@yeefoongphoon8505
5 жыл бұрын
@@driftwisp2797 You could also wait for when you have a mech and trade twice when playing this card.
@xandermcdonald8543
5 жыл бұрын
For snobbish noble, it says common cards, not basic, so completely fresh players would probably have a fairly good chance. Anyone who isn’t mainly playing basic cards probably also has quite a few rares and maybe even an epic or legendary, so it doesn’t seem too problematic.
@strider2175
5 жыл бұрын
I have a really big problem with Overwhelming Force: it pretty much insta-levels up the spellstone if use against a low-health minion.
@Revilex100
5 жыл бұрын
Spellstones don't work like that, they can only ever level up one tier at a time per card
@xavierlepine6825
5 жыл бұрын
6:06 'Friendly Fire' card is Infernal Amumu skin from League of Legends XD
@adderx3
4 жыл бұрын
Looking at old videos is great hunters have thunderfury irl now
@AchEdeJungeNeDu
5 жыл бұрын
An additional effect of Thunderfury should be that emotes of both players get replaced with "Did some say Thunderfury, blessed blade of the windseeker!?" for the rest of the game.
@Linosek279
5 жыл бұрын
Can we get a flavour ranking too? Cos seeing cards with really nice feels to then getting 1 star design rankings feels a bit off
@tasdude3227
5 жыл бұрын
you should add a new mark called idea or something like that in which you consider only the flavor and the idea behind it without considering the design and the possible way that the card could possibly act. like so he can read it
@James--Hunt
5 жыл бұрын
The rogue quest could be buffed in it summons a 1/1 on activation? That way it's like firefly in that it gives a body for the one mana and can be the combo activator.
@Miamiamaiiai
5 жыл бұрын
Eternity stone more like prophetic prism
@otakusatanist
5 жыл бұрын
Basic cards do not have white gem so they are not common
@isaachaahr8691
4 жыл бұрын
Glancing back at eternity stone buffing it to a side quest seems very possible. Possible broken with auctioneer but we will never know
@Speedfire2_
3 жыл бұрын
Boy am I late, but at 3:59 a good fix would be 2 Mana, Deal 10 Damage to your hero, if this were to kill you, Heal 10 Instead.
@luliby2309
5 жыл бұрын
This series is fun and cool, but some of these designs probably aren't as insane as you're making them out to be. A lot of the ones you might be on the fence about could be balanced through playtesting, which you don't get if you're just thinking about them, and it's a mistake to try and make everything perfectly exactly the same power level. Collectible games are actually at their best with a diversity of power levels (See Mark Rosewater's "When cards go bad" articles).
@aidanrogers7907
5 жыл бұрын
You should split design into two categories; flavor and mechanics. I feel that cards get docked too many design stars for one but are still really high in the other.
@TVNmanufacture
5 жыл бұрын
whats the point then? if the card is badly designed, why would you give it a "you tried" price? as long as the flavor is mentioned, its fair.
@AugustusCaesar9464
5 жыл бұрын
1:20 it could be banned in ranks 25-50 like whizbang
@runningarctic301
5 жыл бұрын
@Ravi V it's not powerful. It's just mean. 5 mana 4/4 "immune" to new players is mean
@Lasergurka
5 жыл бұрын
Well, Trump mostly misses the obvious thing that basic cards are NOT common cards ( and they don't have the 'white circle thing' he says they do in the video), so unless the description of the card is wrong, it would only do anything against other new players that has also bought packs, and it would still be very very minor. I rate Trump's reading comprehension 1 star.
@MajkaSrajka
5 жыл бұрын
IIRC they are common. i.e. for the rarity for arena etc. IMO if they wouldn't it would be even more confusing.
@AugustusCaesar9464
5 жыл бұрын
@@Lasergurka calling it obvious is a bit strong, sure they are not technically consider common cards, but the author may have intended for it to work that way.
@Lasergurka
5 жыл бұрын
@@AugustusCaesar9464 I'd say it's pretty condescending to presume the creator has written the description wrong and then go on about how dumb the card is from the perspective how him writing it wrong, especially if you base your presumption on something you've mixed up ( that basic cards share the symbol of common cards). That's all :)
@spookster2265
5 жыл бұрын
Eternity stone should be reworked into a 1 mana spell that states: give the next card you play Combo: add an Eternity Stone to your hand. Gets around the quest tag. Still isn't very strong tho.
@Something-ff9cg
4 жыл бұрын
11:22 It should be a passive hero power that makes it so you can play combo cards without any other cards and the combo effect will still trigger.
@firstlast446
5 жыл бұрын
One addition to this I'd love to see is having one card designed by Trump himself or some card he highlights that wasn't on their top cards.
@ZenofireX
5 жыл бұрын
By far my favorite outro
@Solrex_the_Sun_King
5 жыл бұрын
Trump, at 5:57, let's say you were at 10 life and used that card. You only deal 10 to your hero, not 20. Regardless, maybe a better way to design this card would be to change the damage you've taken into life. Meaning, if your at 20, you go down to 10, and if your at 1 HP, you go up to 29. With amara in priest (assuming they somehow got this), this would include the 40 HP maximum.
@justanoman6497
5 жыл бұрын
Thunderfury: I don't mind re-naming, but there might be merit to keeping the legendary status. Remember, there is actually a game play difference for that rarity--in that you can have only one. The weapon seems something that's extra good if you get early, as it will let you swing almost perpetually. And lower rarity will help with that. And a duplicate means that you can feel more free to swing with it on the few turns you are not overloaded. (on that note, what does "overloaded" mean? That you played a overload card this turn? Or last turn and you have mana locked? Or both? Because overload-removers remove both. The card is pretty busted if it's both since you only need to play overload every other turn.) The Pumpking: Due to squashling being echo, it's not really THAT good. Since after maybe the third one, its effect becomes very meh as you are increasingly unlikely to actually use up all the squashlings. As such, it's not as OP as you think. Krenkle: On the one hand, you can get two weapon from this in one go, so its maximal value is higher than what you talked about. On the other, you compared it with cult master, which can have more triggers than that. It's rather hard to say how well the balancing is.
@Lucas-kb5ks
5 жыл бұрын
Could you add a third star rating based on flavor only? That would solve the "cool idea, 1star" issue
@jakemoore5064
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like non interactive shouldn't be a factor.... Look at taunt druids, witching hour cube. Nourish combo. There's nothing you can do to stop it
@cheese9466
5 жыл бұрын
Can add beasts to their pool to interact with witching hour, nourish is 5 mana do nothing the turn you play it so you interact by building a board and hitting them or counterspell.
@jakemoore5064
5 жыл бұрын
@@cheese9466nourish is not a 5 mama do nothing, it's one of the best fruit cards. And for a lot of classes it's very hard if not impossible to add beast to the pool
@cheese9466
5 жыл бұрын
Tinkmaster for example is neutral...
@davidrich27
5 жыл бұрын
Non-interactivity is in the game for sure, but certainly you dont consider it a positive design?
@warptens5652
5 жыл бұрын
non-interactivity is in the game indeed, and it doesn't mean it's good design, but trump says stuff like "this could never be printed" whenever he sees something non-interactive, which is plain wrong, just look at the mage quest.
@T0getherAl0ne
5 жыл бұрын
really enjoyed this episode. we had more variety of rankings, not just 1 and 5 star cards.
@uperpie
5 жыл бұрын
I personally think Back from the Bring is a great card for the purpose it's trying to fulfill. It's a comeback card. When you're on the BRINK of losing, with let's say 8-5 health left and regain and you end up with 12-15 or more health at the end of it all. It allows you too survive one more turn in case you need to clear the board it can't be just a total 20+ heal because by the time you're popping this off it's likely going to be near the end game it'll feel like a soft reset of everything the opponent just did. As for the problem of cards that relay on damage done to your hero it's pretty simple. Only account for the difference of health when the spell is done. Giving that aspect an all or nothing sort of effect and bring yourself to massive disadvantage in being restricted of your hero power and certain cards that deal damage to your hero in exchange for a really powerful effect given the damage. The only change I would personally do is ramp up the cost to 8/9 to disuade the latter and require setup beforehand if you truly want to go for that strategy and make the former more appealing.
@uperpie
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and to avoid Back from the brink into Back from the brink sinanigans make it a legendary spell.
@somerandomguy246
5 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for the rogue quest change it to "Quest activate 3 combo cards" "Reward eternity stone 1 mana your combo cards are always active"
@I__--
5 жыл бұрын
Krenkle, The Junksmith gets 4 stars for balance? Imagine all the giant weapons you're gonna get with those giant magnetic mechs.
@visoth7791
5 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with The Junksmith. You cannot draw a comparison between Cult Master and it. This is because it EQUIP's a weapon. You can only attack once per turn. That means, if you play it while a mech dies, you will gain a single 1 charge weapon. Cult Master is far superior in that you draw cards, and can have more value per turn. If you draw 5 cards from Cult Master, that is far superior that re-equiping 5 weapons from Junksmith. This would be a difficult card to balance. Perhaps if it was "Add a weapon with 1 durability to your hand" and balance those weapons around their mana costs, it could compete with Cult Master.
@Fusrodog
5 жыл бұрын
6th card: Alongside making it a 5/6, I would consider it passable. I wouldn't encourage more health into the pumpkin king since I do fear it would give others (other than rogue, polymorph, hex, humility, repentance, and aldor) a hard time to remove it without it being too costly. Plus, Inner fire combo and all that jazz.
@Featherwick
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe for Snobbish Noble you make it cant be damaged by cards that cost less than it
@ipkandskill
5 жыл бұрын
Eternity stone is really cool but it should be like head crack end of turn return it to your hand. You could then maybe make it 0 mana.
@darkanviii2182
5 жыл бұрын
The Stone of Eternity (sounds better i think) should be a rogue legendary spell: 1 mana "At the end of your turn add the Stone of Eternity" to your hand. That makes it an interesting card for rouge that can be used for combos but can't be abused that easily. You pay 1 mana for nothing but you dont lose a card.
@AlonsoQuesadaMartinez
5 жыл бұрын
Giggling inventor uses a card from previous set, so Pumpking isn't the first to do so.
@Fusrodog
5 жыл бұрын
1st card: Change it to a 4/2 and I think it'll be fine... maybe also change the text and make it more specific, it being "common minions" so it's wide open to backstabs and frostbolts.
@Dominik356
5 жыл бұрын
7:13 You only need to play a overload card every other turn. You lose overload not immediately. Pretty OP.
@spencerfreeman5408
5 жыл бұрын
back from the brink seems bad with nethersoul buster. u would have to do this on turn 7, maybe turn 5 with blood bloom, but the card would prolly just about kill you most of the time and having a large atk doesnt matter with only 5 hp.
@Fusrodog
5 жыл бұрын
5th card: You could probably just say that if you wanted a more epic weapon, you could give it like... I don't know, a much higher mana cost with a little bit more stats behind it. Take for instance Silver Bells... I mean blade. It has the stats of Assasin's blade, but it's got 3 more mana to it's cost, considering the powerful effect of the paladin weapon being that it gives all of his minions +1/+1. I say it would be a pretty good late-game card, maybe as a good 8-mana 5 or 6/2 where it doesn't lose durability if you're overloaded.
@aymonverheij1863
5 жыл бұрын
basic cards dont have a whithe ball nd you dont get karazhan crds from packs
@quadrophrenic
5 жыл бұрын
My idea to fix Eternity Stone: make it a repeatable quest. Blue icon. Rare card. It would still be shitty, but it'd be a rare so nobody would care about unpacking it and some folks might tech it into a meme deck or two
@joshelderkin3232
4 жыл бұрын
pumpkings gotta be 9 mana if its giving you squashlings that also proc its ability
@SkipperinoHS
5 жыл бұрын
0:38
@WEIRDxGRIM
5 жыл бұрын
Wrong guy.
@cameronmcindoe6119
5 жыл бұрын
You say wrong guy like its his first time in this channel
@Sweetguy1821
5 жыл бұрын
You mean 13:00, custom cards most pointless series
@ratrujaga6499
5 жыл бұрын
Seth Morrison why are you watching than
@spiderdog07
5 жыл бұрын
I disagree. You can never skip Trump admitting he was wrong
@Reidlos1773
5 жыл бұрын
Snobbish noble, if you noticed, is a karazhan card, meaning that it would be purchase only and unlikely to be found in ranks 26-50. Anyone who would pay blizzard for this card would never play ranks 26-50. Not as broken in that regard, just saying
@vini6
5 жыл бұрын
Stentago and it can be killed by basic cards, so i think is fine
@bagorngo
5 жыл бұрын
Somehow, that makes it worse. Now you got a card you can make 25-50 P2W
@bakabridget9248
5 жыл бұрын
Well with cult master, you can get more than 2 cards if you have enough minions for it. the warrior legendary you're limited to 2, you trade in mech, attack with weapon, then trade in another mech for a new weapon. if you trade in anymore mechs they'll just overwrite the weapon. i see no problem with the warrior card being more stats than cult master since it's warrior only instead of neutral, only works off mechs, and is more limited on how much value you can get off of it in a turn. The mech also needs to have enough attack for the weapon to even be of any value. with cult master you can trade ina 1/1 and get a card, if you trade ina 1/1 mech you only get a 1/1 weapon which isnt any good.
@SyckestBlah
5 жыл бұрын
3:48 Why not add a third meter, then, Flavor for example, where you rate the design but leave out gameplay aspects? Such as, is the card coherent in its theme, is the idea new and exciting and all that jazz.
@Buchtaboy
5 жыл бұрын
6:05 that's the new amumu skin in league
@Begeru
5 жыл бұрын
Thunderfury doesn’t seem OP at all. It would be a hindrance to overload yourself every turn. And that has a lot of variance involved since you can’t just consistently draw an overload spell every turn.
@rofik1476
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should add a new rating system upon which you rate how *cool* the cards is.
@guildmasterandy3767
5 жыл бұрын
What I would do for the Eternity Stone is 1 Mana Rouge Spell: Shuffle 1 Copy of The Eternity Stone into your deck. I considered it drawing you another card upon playing it or upon drawing it, both I felt were OP. You're drawing a Combo activator pretty much, it's worth enough as is, you want it to be a dead draw sometimes as a balancing factor. Drawing The Eternity Stone when you have no combo cards in hand is just a dead draw. You could consider it a 0 Mana Card though, considering you have to draw it, it shuffles in, and sometimes it's just a dead draw. It would need to be tested at 0 Mana, but I feel neither variant limits design space, and could see play in a heavy combo deck maybe. Also since it's no longer a Quest you can make it non-Legendary, allowing you to run 2. But would Rogue want to run 2 cards that sometimes do nothing and are basically deck thinner?
@jackieririan
5 жыл бұрын
HENLO THER! I COME WITH A CUSTOM CARD! ⭐7 5/6 Mec'Han'Cho: Magnetic Battlecry: Give a random Mech in your hand this minion's Attack and Health. Mech This card is broken, but if you want to make it balanced just remove Magnetic.
@raisschultz420
5 жыл бұрын
Should be deathrattle 9 cost
@kennethokubo3435
5 жыл бұрын
Custom Carderino Kripperino the battlecry wouldn’t work if you magnetized it i think. Anyways, i guess i’ll put an idea up. 5 mana priest Hero card 5 armor Battlecry: heal 6 health to all friendly characters. Hero power: heal 3, if the target is still damaged: discover an elemental. Flavor would be like, lyra or something.
@connorm7915
5 жыл бұрын
@@kennethokubo3435 Should cost 5
@kennethokubo3435
5 жыл бұрын
Connor McNulty edited
@jackieririan
5 жыл бұрын
@@kennethokubo3435 I like this card. The effect of 'if still damaged do this is' very interesting design and I wish there were more cards like this. And not just Light of Naaru.
@joedeamon264
5 жыл бұрын
i interpreted back from the brink as only taking damage until you are at 0, so if you did it at 5 life nethersoul buster would get +5 and you would go to 15
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