Yay! Stargate! Carter: "The Asgard named a new ship after you." O'Neill: "Oh?!" Carter: "We had to destroy it though." O'Neill: "Oh..."
@USSAnimeNCC-
5 жыл бұрын
XD
@Kronos327
5 жыл бұрын
I love Stargate
@gerardojoel2526
3 жыл бұрын
I know im asking randomly but does someone know of a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I stupidly forgot the password. I would love any help you can offer me!
@vihaanwalter2350
3 жыл бұрын
@Gerardo Joel instablaster =)
@gerardojoel2526
3 жыл бұрын
@Vihaan Walter thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process atm. Takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@nuancedhistory
5 жыл бұрын
Some notes on the Terminus-class: 1. Regarding the hangar, you're right. The Terminus' interior models in various parts of the game are completely inconsistent with the ships' exterior layouts. The same can be said for the Harrower-class. In both cases, the ships' layouts are positioned entirely behind the bridge, when the exterior features are all positioned in front of the bridge. 2. The Terminus-class destroyer does not feature two "wings" on top of the ship, those are Long Range Sensor Towers. 3. The turbolasers on the fore of the Terminus are not fixed, although their firing arcs should probably be more limited than they are in SWTOR itself where they habitually clip through the ship.
@bfrank7389
5 жыл бұрын
The halberd is always an awesome design. Its hard to say exactly what makes it so cool. I also always tend to like ships designed around fixed cannons. Not on a massive super weapon scale, but cruiser or smaller sized.
@watcherzero5256
5 жыл бұрын
"It would have been very easy for them to design some hideous ship with lots of yellow bits sticking out of it to visually communicate its Vorlon/Membari heritage" *cough* *Cough* the hideous Omega-X shadow hybrids.
@AdamSmith-kq6ys
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they killed those with fire.
@Alligator81
5 жыл бұрын
Spacedock will you do a video on your favorite non-combat ships? You were right on point about BSG’s Demetrius in that video, and there’s an abundance of cargo ships and unconventional designs that don’t often get enough deserved recognition. As always, you do fantastic work and I look forward to seeing what you do next!
@jacobpeterson1045
5 жыл бұрын
Terminus class also had crazy good armer and shelds that's why Mar had it as his flagship.
@thedragondemands5186
14 күн бұрын
Well, Babylon 5’s White Stars or Trek’s Defiant, as they both are: “such a good Destroyer that we deploy them like Cruisers, and convinced ourselves they could be used as Battleships, but this was just asking too much of them”
@joshmolepske1185
4 жыл бұрын
Sins of a solar empire rebellion has a halo mod and the Halberd class is a great fleet support ship. No covy ship could stand up to a dozen of those wicked little ships
@crocodileguy4687
3 жыл бұрын
Alantis/city ship should have been on here but I'm happy they put the O'Neill
@fatboyslim458
3 жыл бұрын
The Halberd class does show up in season 10 of Red Vs Blue as the 'Staff Of Charon', not strictly halo but heavily based on it.
@shikaru808
5 жыл бұрын
Daniel, check out the ship designs on the Dreadnought game on Steam. Some of their destroyers are just outright beautiful.
@inkedseahear
5 жыл бұрын
I really hope we get to see the Halberd more, or a next-generation destroyer with a similar shape. That design is beautiful.
@brianhenry152
5 жыл бұрын
How about the YV-929 Armored Transport? Would also like to see an analysis of the Pelta Class Frigate from Clone Wars and Rebels!
@Centurion-ce6qj
5 жыл бұрын
The Sith Empire ships are my favorite and I would love to see a redone overview of their fleet.
@lynngreen7978
5 жыл бұрын
I get Warlock-Class, but I like the Victory-Class Destroyer (White Star Series Destroyer Class, AKA Excalibur)
@jamesstevens4915
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure a Halberd class can be seen deployed by the Infinity after it’s ramming maneuver. It’s blink and you’ll miss it, but it’s there.
@jamesstevens4915
2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, I was hallucinating all along
@UGNAvalon
5 жыл бұрын
Next series: Top 5 Underrepresented Ships of [ _Insert Franchise_ ]
@Ranger1723
5 жыл бұрын
E.A.S. Titans was a Warlock class ship that the wreckage of a Vorlon transport merged with. Interesting fan fiction from efni.org.
@antoniodeangelis3820
5 жыл бұрын
No ship in any scifi series is more powerful than the WarHammer 40k ships. A single two-stage cyclonic torpedo is capable of detonating an entire planet, and each ship is made to continuously fire 6-8 torpedo bombs, has 6-8 times the fire power of the black death and shoots continuously. In addition, the macrocannons and laser lances supplied on ships have a power capable of destroying entire continents. There are also ships like the Ark Mechanicus Hope, which are the size of a continent and have immense guns that shoot black holes at the target, and weapons that control time.
@TerranceChilds-ui8nh
5 ай бұрын
I've always wondered which one is better Earth Force weapons technology or Halo weapons technology?
@SkywalkerWroc
5 жыл бұрын
Recusant wasn't just in Clone Wars, it appeared in the Episode 3.
@RomLoneWolf23
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, just wondering, would you consider examining ships from the Starcraft games?
@grifnizzle7197
5 жыл бұрын
If the Omega and Warlock class ships in B5 were destroyers, where were the cruisers, battleships, etc?
@PsiCommando
5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there aren't any ships from Homeworld here. That game has a lot of dedicated ship classes, with each differing in strategic role and function.
@eq2Bonesmasher
5 жыл бұрын
So what about the B5 White Star class ships? They are destroyers that are used against capital ships with a fairly high attrition rate. Also, how is the Defiant classed from Star Trek? That seems to be a destroyer class being smaller, heavily armed and combat oriented. I also thought destroyers were in the 100m-300m range, but some of the ships on the list were over 500m.
@RenBR
5 жыл бұрын
The Whitestar were powerfull, but they could not take a destroyer on a 1-1 fight. The whitestars usually fight in groups. The channel below has a lot of content about B5 ships, like the warlock, shadow and vorlon ships. kzitem.info/rock/mMM1QUy_rX_N0a0-ZZH8RAvideos
@jakedempsey3809
5 жыл бұрын
I've never really been a fan of the majority of ship designs in Halo, but the Halberd looks awesome
@jovanblackman2608
5 жыл бұрын
@ 4:18 It does appear in the Sins of the Solar Empire mod named Sins of the Prophets... Close enough?
@Farlas816
5 жыл бұрын
iirc the halbred class got some attention in red vs blue
@bramweenink7697
5 жыл бұрын
Staff of Charon! Great ship for a great douche.
@roguerifter9724
4 жыл бұрын
Wait you specifically say that Battleship/Carrier hybrids are excluded but include the Warlock class. How? They are literally a class designed as successors to an earlier class of Battleship/Carrier hybrids.
@beaney56
4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, since you love audible if you could do a best audible scifi series. I love the expanse books, ark royal books, black fleet books, ember war books, expeditionary force books..... ect.
@EvanG529
5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a list of Corvette-type ships.
@USSVoyager5
2 жыл бұрын
@Spacedock Do u have a Top 5 Video SciFi Long Range Explorer Ships with the Intrepid Class USS Voyager
@LoneWolf20213
5 жыл бұрын
if the halberd had shield's, I'd be near unstoppable
@LMG1792
5 жыл бұрын
leon fierce I love the design of halo unsc ships.
@briankriens5645
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock Class is a huge ship. Always wonder why such large ships get called destroyers. Corvette, Frigate, Destroyer, Cruiser, Battle Cruiser, Battleship, and Carrier is how it usually goes.
@briankriens5645
5 жыл бұрын
Cruisers and carriers are the largest combat ships used in current era/modern navies.
@DarylFroggy
5 жыл бұрын
I love the O’Neill Class but how is it a Destroyer and not a Cruiser of some stripe? I suppose I should ask; what exactly is your definition of a ‘Destroyer?’
@KarnodAldhorn
Жыл бұрын
Can you explain the ship classes in a video?
@positronicfeed
5 жыл бұрын
I love the Warlock class. I wish B5 lasted a bit longer so we could see more of them. I would have especially liked to see the EAS Potter, EAS Weasley and EAS Granger. ;) PS: Is there a ship that would fit this function in the Star Trek universe? I would have thought the Defiant but that feels more like an Interceptor/gunboat. A better armed Intrepid perhaps.
@RenBR
5 жыл бұрын
I love babylon 5. Its a shame that B5 dont get the same level of care as other sci-fis. There arent many videos on youtube talking about B5 ships or lore. The few channels that talk about b5 usually dont get the same attention. This channel is an exemple: kzitem.info/rock/mMM1QUy_rX_N0a0-ZZH8RAvideos There is lot of content about B5 ships, like the warlock, shadow and vorlon ships. However people complain about the fact of the guy using text-to-speach on his vidoes.
@CptJistuce
2 жыл бұрын
For blowing crap up, my money's on the EAS Dresden. :)
@volusrus5159
5 жыл бұрын
Spacedock Top without a single ship from The Expanse? I don't believe you!
@marcosdheleno
5 жыл бұрын
by the way, what is a the diference between a destroyer, a gunship and a cruiser? hell, what is each cathegory of ship meant to fulfil? for example, i always considered the amalthea class ships from gundam victory as destroyers, being heavily armed weapons designed for combat, however, it is said to be a cruiser.
@vandammebrian
4 жыл бұрын
missing the orion class from Freespace 1 & 2 rip GTD Galatea
@VulcanOnWheels
4 жыл бұрын
5:51 That text was on the screen for a very short time.
@nikokorhonen1026
5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there one Halberd-class in season 10 of Red vs Blue from Rooster teeth. Episode 4 Turbulence.
@Daehawk
5 жыл бұрын
Halberd is a beautiful ship. Warlock is my favorite.
@zorkwhouse8125
5 жыл бұрын
The Terminus (I'm guessing this is the spelling) Class reminds me of the head of a crocodile when seen from the side. And I don't mean that as a negative, I think its pretty cool. But that image just popped into my head when I first saw it.
@Eagledelta3
5 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if there are some Sci-Fi universes where the "Traditional" Naval System doesn't apply. I.E. Star Wars uses their own system not akin to our own because their navies were developed/evolved differently. Case in point: Star Destroyer may be just a product line or a stand alone ship class that doesn't exist in the real world at all, hence the use of the term "Destroyer" in its name confuses people.
@thulejin
4 жыл бұрын
In 40k destroyers are the smallest and most expendable ships the Imperial Navy has at a minuscule 1.5 kms long.
@thomasgodridge5945
5 жыл бұрын
I know you specialise in ships, but you have excellent taste.
@jameskaufman8263
5 жыл бұрын
Hey mister spacedock.. Don't you -ever- talk about homeworld? How does the Hiigaran Destroyer not make the list?
@nedo6018
5 жыл бұрын
top 10 star destroyers
@NightBeWheat
4 ай бұрын
Top 3 halo ships 3-Kelly x fred 2-Linda x John 1-Halberd-class destroyer
@jackiemoorman7483
5 жыл бұрын
So what class is the white star? And could it be considered one ?
@BringTheRains
5 жыл бұрын
What about Honorverse ships? I mean that’s an entire series based around ship combat
@tharr67
5 жыл бұрын
Yes I was thinking the same, the Manticoran Roland Class fits the bill here
@JBuick
4 жыл бұрын
*sighs* None but the O'Neil class for me.
@jenniferstewarts4851
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know, many of these ships aren't... destroyers... Now adays in reality, most destroyers are actually light cruisers. But the concept of destroyer was "torpedoe boat destroyer" Their job was to carry light, rapid firing guns, to destroyer ships smaller then themselves. And then carry torpedoes themselves, for larger ships. To me, a destroyer would have several "light guns" not strong enough to hurt big ships unless they hit key systems. The light guns would be for hitting destroyers, smaller ships like corvettes or patrol boats, small freighters, and fighters. Point defense guns, allowing it to provide screening for other ships. Some missiles for anti-fighter/anti-light ship work. Then its torpedoes. Allowing it to use its speed and agility to make runs on bigger ships and dump a slew of large ship killer torpedoes and then vear away...
@Jartist234
5 жыл бұрын
No Orion class Destroyers from Freespace?!? I consider this an insult! lol, j/k. But honestly, Orions are my favorite Sci-fi destroyers.
@Rtgv123
3 жыл бұрын
Reaper Destroyer.
@gavinsmiley9377
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Daniel made a list without Mass Effect or The Expanse.
@rensc4262
5 жыл бұрын
Did you think to include destroyers from other games, e.g.Cormorant class (EVE Online)?
@LordTalax
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Vikings never had horns on their helmets
@dave_dark_scythe4921
3 жыл бұрын
Babylon 5 got an HD remaster on HBO max recently.
@Sof_alm
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget kripiteria space battleship yamato destroyer of the garmillas empire
@Angaraman
5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever looked at the ships of EVE Online? There are hundreds of them, varying massively in size, armament, defensive strategy, combat role... Seems to me like any complete "top five" list is going to have to at least give due consideration some of EVE's best.
@Atom_Alchemist
2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the halo tv show..Greatings from 2022...we got the show...the future apologizes.
@qrangejuice8225
5 жыл бұрын
BUH WUHBOUT STER DSTROYES?!!
@marcosdheleno
5 жыл бұрын
wait, so no Yamato? i mean, it is the most famous destroyer of all time, and that version is basically that, but IN SPACE! how can something dethrone it?
@haggus71
4 жыл бұрын
That's a battleship
@rakeshboodoo9404
5 жыл бұрын
WHAT! no star trek ship?! Time to riot!
@DMSProduktions
5 жыл бұрын
Aww no WC destroyers!
@HuxtableK
2 жыл бұрын
So, uh... About that "upcoming Halo tv show" We from the future are sorry.
@vonfaustien3957
5 жыл бұрын
do spaceball one or a culture GSU
@dagonfell1566
5 жыл бұрын
MUSAI from GUNDAM.....
@GunRunner106
5 жыл бұрын
UNSC halo ships have still the best naming conventions - as they just go completely nuts with their names "UNSC Tokyo Rules" :D
@Alligator81
5 жыл бұрын
GunRunner I’ve been browsing the Halo wiki recently, and some of the commercial freighters have pretty funny ones. This Side Up, Bulk Discount, or Handle With Care. I love the little humorous things that game developers and authors put into their worlds!
@Thunderous117
5 жыл бұрын
Love the halo ship designs and names, they either roll or the tongue like the unsc heart of midlothian or are comical like the unsc do you feel lucky
@KillerOrca
5 жыл бұрын
Bum Rush. Say My Name. Some really good ones out there. I wonder if theres an entire division of the Navy that just names new ships once they ran out of famous battles and people to name them after. Actually come to think of it, the interesting names started showing up after Nylund left Im pretty sure, cause all the ones in his novels were US-Navy styled.
@suborgulag7908
5 жыл бұрын
Unsc say my name It’s an actual cannon ship ( I think it’s a frigate)
@KillerOrca
5 жыл бұрын
@@suborgulag7908 Carrier. Its the one Alpha-9 deploys out of in ODSTs opening.
@Jason8648776
5 жыл бұрын
Oneill Class is a battleship. No doubt about it.
@AdamSmith-kq6ys
5 жыл бұрын
Yup ... heaviest-in-species combat vessel doesn't exactly scream "disposable escort" like destroyers are _supposed_ to be.
@777Mikos
5 жыл бұрын
my thought exactly. While they don't have "officially" designated type, they are the main warship of the fleet, in SG those ships are usually designated "motherships"
@sparrowlt
5 жыл бұрын
So its the Warlock.. actually i think i renember something that the Warlock despite being named a destroyer was a replacement for the Nova class dreadnoughs.. implying their roles was indeed that of a dreadnough... In fact both the Omega and Warlock are more tecnically a fast-battleship.. the Omega when introduced was the fastest EA warship to date.. faster even than the Hyperion and Olympus.. the Warlock is suposed to be even faster having better engines with gravitic tecnology..and also having inertial dumpers..allowing the ship to go beyong human limits
@martindevon3204
5 жыл бұрын
And the Warlock
@DarrinSK
3 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between frigates, destroyers, battleships, etc?
@captaingrim8323
5 жыл бұрын
I hope it is frigates next
@captaindusty4884
5 жыл бұрын
Valkyrie Air Defense Frigate - StarCraft Brood War Stalwart Class Light Frigate - Halo Confederate Munificent Class Frigate - Star Wars
@dylanwight5764
5 жыл бұрын
@@captaindusty4884 The Muificent was a Star Frigate
@AlexSDU
5 жыл бұрын
Northampton-class Stealth Frigate - Macross Plus until Macross Delta. A cannon fodder ship of any UN Spacy/NUNS' fleets. www.macross2.net/m3/macrossplus/northampton-stealthfrigate.htm
@TheHalcyonTwilight
5 жыл бұрын
The Normandy would be his top pick. Paris or Stalwart class would get a solid mention.
@DMSProduktions
5 жыл бұрын
Frig it!
@Gala-yp8nx
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Halberd class destroyer was initially created by fans for a Sins of A Solar Empire mod called “Sins of the Prophets”. In fact 343 Studios commandeered a lot of the ship designs from that mod.
@thepolishtech1552
5 ай бұрын
I don’t think they “commandeered” it, the SoTP mod team works with 343 occasionally
@Ethesto
5 жыл бұрын
I would have classed the O'Neil as a cruiser despite it being called a destroyer. It seems like a replacement ship of the line for the Asgard and is used as such throughout the show, acting independently from larger fleets or as a frontline ship during larger battles. the weapons themselves are OP and geared towards massive damage output and sustained combat rather than anything specialized.
@jesseberg3271
5 жыл бұрын
Daniel, are you familiar with the Honor Harrington books by David Weber? Weber goes into great detail about ship classification in his universe and while you might not agree with him entirely (he uses Dreadnought and Super Dreadnaught as specific classes, distinct from and larger than Battleships) I think you would find it interesting if you haven't read it yet.
@seanheath4492
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was sorta hoping the Roland-class would pop up (also the Deacon-class from the Homeworld series, but that's another matter).
@Valiran9
5 жыл бұрын
Why is the O'neill class in this video? I always heard it called a mothership, never a destroyer. And the Warlock is a battleship, the "Advanced Destroyer" classification was basically politics.
@benlaskowski357
4 жыл бұрын
The Recusant has to be my favorite CIS ship. It's so unique-looking it's like a flagship of some sort.
@Daimon-X
5 жыл бұрын
'They protect, They attack'! But mostly they Destroy! HALO - Halberd Class looks smexy AF.
@torjones1701
5 жыл бұрын
I thought you said you were going to eliminate battleships that were called destroyers? No Star Destroyers is what you said specifically, and if so, why the hell are you including EAS Warlock which is the Star Destroyer of the B5 universe?
@jeanremynoble1798
4 жыл бұрын
That was my thought. Closer to a Battleship-Carrier model you profess to hate
@Vaultboy-ke2jj
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock isn’t a destroyer though, it’s a battleship/carrier just like the Omega
@g.waldmeister1851
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought the same thing. I mean, Daniel said it himself: just because something is called a destroyer doesn't make it one and gave the example of a Stardestroyer which is absolutely correct. The Warlock is anything but a specialized vessel. I like it (although not as much as most fans of B5 do) but it hasn't much to do with the topic of this list.
@Ushio01
5 жыл бұрын
Both the Omega and Warlock are called destroyers in Babylon 5 which they are in the same way the US Navies Arleigh Burke is to a WW1 Clemson class.
@richmcgee434
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Somebody's bias for the design is showing through here. EarthForce "destroyers" were capital ships, and more powerful in most ways that the Nova-class "dreadnought" design.
@richmcgee434
5 жыл бұрын
Eh, the Burkes still serve a similar (albeit modernized and much-expanded) fleet role to the Clemson's, even if their capabilities are far greater and frigates have taken over some of the former destroyer duties. The Warlocks and Omegas do not do those kind of jobs. They're definitely not escorts or small attack ships, they're capital ships, battlecarriers to borrow a phrase from various scifi games.
@Ushio01
5 жыл бұрын
+Rich McGee Burkes do everything while the first destroyers had very specific roles which got expanded till they become the everything ship. The Omega and Warlock are everything ships from fleet ships to fly the flag solo border patrol. The Iowa class battleships where escort ships they where used to escort the Essex fleet carriers and to escort landing ships for beach landings in WW2 and escorted Nimitz class carriers during the 90's re-activation. In navies where the destroyer or even frigate is the biggest ship (all but the 10 biggest navies in the world) they would perform duties like the omega and warlock do.
@highgrounder5238
5 жыл бұрын
Battlecruiser next please, a lot of stargate fans want to see the 304s!
@highgrounder5238
5 жыл бұрын
@@revbladez5773 Its literally called BC-304. BattleCruiser 304.
@highgrounder5238
5 жыл бұрын
@@revbladez5773 Battleship itself is an outdated term and most sci-fis dont use them. And for the carrier abilities, if a ship can carry a couple of fighters, i doesnt mean its a carrier. Even Yamato could carry a couple if fighters. If we compare Odyssey and Galactica (both carrier/battleship hybrids), we can see that Galactica is relying on fighter a lot more than the 304. I'd say that Galactica is abput 70/30 aka carrier with guns, and the 304 is the other way around aka battlecruiser with fighters.
@jensreiberg8086
5 жыл бұрын
@@highgrounder5238 well the BC-304 is called a battlecruiser but not always does an IP get their own ship classes right (look at Mass Effect 1) in my opinion the BC-304 has huge carrier parts with it having like 4 hangars there's no need to deny that. As a ship it can hold it's own in combat but as seen on SG:A only truly reaches it's potencial with fighters deployed... Could still be placed in a Battlecruiser video, for sure.
@jfangm
5 жыл бұрын
@@jensreiberg8086 Rev is right, it is not a battlecruiser by Spacedock definition, as it is a battleship-carrier hybrid. Battlecruisers are probably the most misnamed ship type in science fiction. A battlecruiser is a naval vessel with the main armament of a battleship, but with armor protection closer to that of a cruiser, giving them a faster speed as the cost of protection, the being to outrun whatever it could not outfight. HMS Hood best represented the pinnacle of this design philosophy, as well the flaws with said philosphy.
@jfangm
5 жыл бұрын
@@highgrounder5238 You are wrong on all three accounts. First, the Daedalus does not carry "a few fighters," but at least two squadrons. Second, Yamato also carries a number of fighters, 10-15 if I recall correctly. Third, both ships rely heavily on them for support during combat. Thus, they cannot be considered battlecruisers, or even battleships. Both ship types would only carry a couple of aircraft, suitable only for reconnaissance and light utility duties. To conclude, both battleships and battlecruisers rely ENTIRELY on their guns to engage enemy vessels, using one or two aircraft for spotting and reconnaissance ONLY. See my previous comment for the defining characteristics of a battlecruiser. Neither the Daedalus nor the Yamato are true battleships, ance they are likewise not battlecruisers.
@starsilverinfinity
5 жыл бұрын
Destroy-‘er? I hardly even knew ‘er!
@8834pogi
5 жыл бұрын
StarSilverInfinity what is that supposed to mean? That makes no sense.
@srbrant5391
4 жыл бұрын
@@8834pogi It's a dad-joke.
@prime_resistor
5 жыл бұрын
Viking helmets didn't actually have horns. It's a modern revision that there is no historical evidence for.
@dennispoley6005
5 жыл бұрын
Its a little known fact that the helmets appeared to have horns, but the horns were actually growing from the Viking's heads...
@TheSlasherJunkie
4 жыл бұрын
That’s the joke.
@creldest
4 жыл бұрын
I believe with can thank Wagner for that? Been a while since I studied Northern myths and legends.
@TheSlasherJunkie
4 жыл бұрын
Creldest Most historians attribute Wagner. In Die Nibelunglied, Odin’s helmet had wings and Brunhild’s had horns. This is popularized in a cartoon where Bugs Bunny filled in for Brunhilda.
@hopefulmonster
5 жыл бұрын
Can we get a Top 5 'Hero Ships', things like the millennium Falcon, Normandy,Rosanante etc. Cool ships that get the heroes around space.
@darkage5
5 жыл бұрын
By you naming the Warlock class as part of this list. You broke your own rule. It is still a fighter carrier hybrid. Not only that but the ship is massive! It's almost 2000m long. Destroyers are supposed to screen for the larger ships. But the Warlock is larger than the Omegas.
@Ishlacorrin
2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree, the Warlock is closer to a Battleship than anything else. Designed as a weapons platform first and foremost and the largest ship in the EA fleet, anything less than Battleship is a disservice despite how they name it in universe.
@coreymicallef365
5 жыл бұрын
I actually ran some of the numbers on the Halberd Class Destroyer to see how fast it is and it's engine output, and really it's crazy slow with an acceleration comically low at just a tiny bit higher than than 3.5mm/s^2 (after about 10 minutes it could make it all the way up to reaching the speed of a very slow jog) and just because they have a mass listed for the class I decided to plug that into the calculation to get he engine performance at just a tad under 6.33 mN of thrust (which is roughly equal to the power of 33 F-35s pushing a mass over 80,000 times larger than the F-35). This is a particularly good example of the effects of Sci-fi writers having no sense of scale.
@tntproductions1996
3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, if we are taking the canon feats of the Halberd Class Destroyer (ex: Keyes Loop), what would the Halberd’s speed and engine output be? Just curious.
@arandomhamster233
2 жыл бұрын
Intresting? Where did you get the numbers on the engine?
@coreymicallef365
2 жыл бұрын
@@arandomhamster233 based off the speed of a MAC round, how in the books MAC are considered impossible to dodge and the size of the ship.
@ODST_Parker
5 жыл бұрын
Not the biggest fan of the Terminus class design, but it's a solid ship. Would have moved it to fifth place and moved the list up accordingly.
@Arashmickey
5 жыл бұрын
Homeworld RTS destroyer is pretty cool, especially the Vaygr destroyer IMHO.
@aurongrande6141
5 жыл бұрын
I've been begging for him to to a series on the Homeworld ships, from the Motherships, to the HW2 Battlecruiser and the lowly Scout.
@Arashmickey
5 жыл бұрын
@@aurongrande6141 Aye, maybe I should ask more often. It's ripe for coverage, with ships and technologies that is fairly cohesive and not complete fantasy and with abundant footage available for showing off. To be fair they probably haven't gotten around to it since they've done a lot of ships from The Old Republic MMO recently, which they probably would have included a lot more and sooner if they had the time. Still, it can't hurt to ask :)
@haassteambraker9959
5 жыл бұрын
It definitely needs more attention on this channel. I'm still salty none of the HW carriers ranked in his "Top 5 Carriers" video.
@ThieflyChap
5 жыл бұрын
What do we want? "HOMEWORLD SHIPS"! When do we want it? "WITHIN AN ACCEPTABLE TIME FRAME"!
@aurongrande6141
5 жыл бұрын
@@Arashmickey In the HW series, each ship has a rich personal backstory to them, especially when you read the thick manuals that came with the games. It's sort of like multiple stories within a story.
@praetorurbanus2917
5 жыл бұрын
First, you say that you are restricting this list to proper destroyers, (not Star Destroyer-type ships) then you include the O'Neill and Warlock classes. Both vessels were mainline warships, used as battleships. The O'Neill was to replace the aging Beliskner class, which was the Asgard's most powerful ship. The Warlock was very similar, replacing the Omega class, also improperly named a destroyer. The other entries on this list are perfectly acceptable, and I fully agree about the Halberd class and Terminus class destroyers. Those ships really deserve more love than they get.
@terryforsdyke306
5 жыл бұрын
if you had not mentioned that the star destroyer was realy a battleship carrier hybrid so did not qualify I would have had no problem with this list, unfortunately you did so this may be a silly question but how does a ship that at the time of its creation was the most powerfull and durable ship in service with any known faction qualify as a destroyer? The O'Neill was a battleship, designed to beat the replicators, the only ships which would have stood a chance against it 1 on 1 were a Wraith Hive Ship, Ori battleship, BC304 with all the upgrades and an Atlantis class city ship. With regards to the Warlock, that is a battleship carrier hybrid the same as a Battlestar, Star Destroyer or Mon Calamari Crusier, it was supposed to be more powerful than anything else in service with the younger races at the time it was launched. as with a Star Destroyer calling it a destroyer does not make it so.
@Sargonarhes
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock? Just because it's called a Warlock class destroyer doesn't mean it is a destroyer. The Warlock was bigger and better armed than an Omega, making it more of a heavy cruiser or even a battleship. It's the problem of hollywood naming conventions, they don't know a frigate from a destroyer. The basic naval rule is a frigate is a ship that can outrun anything it can't outgun, a cruiser is a larger version of that. The term destroyer originates from the ship known as torpedo destroyer, these are the ship used to protect battleships and dreadnoughts. No way in hell is a Warlock a destroyer.
@n5syr01
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock class is and was not ever intended to be a true destroyer. It, along with the earlier Omegas, were intended to be heavy cruisers/battleships. They were intended to go toe to toe with the Minbari Sharlin war cruisers. They were labeled "destroyers" by Earthforce in order to "sell" them to the Eath Gov Senate. Logic being that it wouldn't come across as "warmongering" building destroyers as opposed to building numbers of cruisers or battleships. If one really thinks about it, when considering their ability to carry fighter/attack craft, troops, heavy armor and firepower, and adequate(by human standards of the time) C n C systems, it would be fair to call them, dare I say, Battlestars?
@adamdubin1276
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting the spotlight on the Halberd and Warlock, such pretty ships. Although, my favorite Sci-fi destroyer is the Roland-Class from David Weber's Honorverse. I love a ship where the backstory of the design is that the Admiralty will not let you build a new modern class of Light Cruiser so in the mean time... Here is a destroyer that is slightly bigger and better armed than most navies light cruisers...
@tatsu280
5 жыл бұрын
I want the term "refit" to become a new norm for Spacedock. Instead of reuploads or 2.0 versions of topics, just call them refits.
@jrosa__
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock Class had a nanotech armor plating reverse engeneered from shadow tech, that regenerates using extra power output from the 2 advanced fusion reactors. Was a behemoth that pretty much could go toe to toe except maybe the Vorlon Dreadnaught. *There is no Canon.Theres Only Legends.*
@TheOneWhoMightBe
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock was the first vessel Earthforce had that could be expected to shirtfront a Sharlin and still come home alive. Indeed that was pretty much the design philosophy, given that the Minbari were the top dogs in the local space.
@Daehawk
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneWhoMightBe That happened in The Strelas'tha incident. A Sharlin ambushed a Warlock and even fired first but the Warlock took it out.
@RenBR
5 жыл бұрын
The warlock destroyer is awesome. The first ship with real artificial gravity and specially design to fight and win againts minbari ships. This video has more information about the Warlock destroyer: kzitem.info/news/bejne/uoGVnmmgrZuriX4
@davidburton2229
5 жыл бұрын
Love the inclusion but don't the Earth Alliance destroyers, both Omega and Warlock, fit more into the Hybrid carrier/battleship role too? At least that was their purpose as mainline warships.
@dreamingflurry2729
5 жыл бұрын
While I like the ships from Halo, I really hate their naming convention :( ("Forward unto Dawn" - Why?...too complicated IMHO!) The Warlock is NOT a destroyer, that is a fucking Battleship! It can take on a Sharlin (and that is a battleship, too!)
@RenBR
5 жыл бұрын
The Warlock is awesome. Its a shame that B5 dont get the same level of care as other sci-fis. There arent many videos on youtube talking about B5 ships or lore. The few channels that talk about b5 usually dont get the same attention. This channel is an exemple: kzitem.info/rock/mMM1QUy_rX_N0a0-ZZH8RAvideos There is lot of content about B5 ships, like the warlock destroyer, shadow and vorlon ships. However people complain about the fact of the guy using text-to-speach on his vidoes.
@cyberfemme319
5 жыл бұрын
The O'Neil and Warlock are battleships in all but name.
@Ishlacorrin
5 жыл бұрын
Have to agree, they call the Warlock a destroyer but it's actually really large in size. 2km long from memory.
@kharneater778
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I dunno why and am curious as to the fact of why it seems like the role descriptors cruiser and destroyer seem to have been reversed in the Earth Alliance of B5?
@ImperativeGames
4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, all Earth ships in Babylon 5 are small (and weak) in comparison to ships of several other races. Being that other races builded spaceships for hundreds or thousand of years before humans made into space, like Minbari. Kinda same thing with Asgard ships - Goa'uld or Wraith ships are to be considered Battleships and Carriers in their Universe, and they are far larger than Asgard ships.
@alexhurlbut
4 жыл бұрын
@@ImperativeGames it wasn't the other races who called Warlock and Omega "Destroyer" it was the Earth Navy itself. It was explained to preserve the dignity of the Hyperion Cruiser the Navy classified Omega and then Warlock as Destroyers.
@davidshea6272
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexhurlbut it was actually due to budget and politics. After the Earth-Minbari war the EA senate didn't want to build cruisers, as they saw it as sabre rattling against the vastly superior Minbari, but the EA fleet desperately needed a new mainline cruiser. So to get it through senate approval, the named the Omega (A cruiser by all standards in universe) a 'destroyer' and apparently the con worked, senate approval for the omega went through. The official designation for the Warlock is 'advanced destroyer', but in EA strategy it is meant to be used as the centre of a task force and stand toe-to-toe with almost anything a younger race can deploy, even a Sharlin or Shargoti, so its pretty much a dreadnought
@sparrowlt
5 жыл бұрын
One Halberd class destroyer appears in Red vs Blue.. the Warlock class btw doesnt have Minbari or Vorlon tech... it got minbari tech in the form of gravitic engines and inertial dumpers and gravity.. but the armour was EA's own..so was the weapons.. they did had shadow tech but aparently it was software related.. There is one JMS short history called "Hidden Agendas" wich is canon and deals with Ivanova's ship, the EAS Titans, one of the very first Warlock destroyers and her shadow tech...
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