Falcon Punch: Negatives: Slow, sound cue, no armor, and the damage isn't worth the risk of the move. Positives: If you land it, you become infinitely superior to everyone in existence, and it's awesome.
@demi-femme4821
10 ай бұрын
I think we could rehabilitate Falcon Punch by turning it into an invincible reversal at some point in order to catch out enemy attacks and punish.
@HeyItIsMichal
10 ай бұрын
That's a pretty good idea. What I would do is bring back it's very small niche in recovery in Smash 64 by allowing it to travel a bit in the air. Heck, let's just port the Smash 64 version of the move with the ability to turn around and it's already better.@@demi-femme4821
@Jeremonkey90
10 ай бұрын
You know what’s even better than landing falcon punch? Landing Kirby neutral b (get it?)
@GoldGuard
10 ай бұрын
@@demi-femme4821 It would be cool if it was like Sephiroth’s counter where it’s a counter if he’s hit but the hit will come out later if he’s not hit
@gameboyn64
10 ай бұрын
To make volcano kick worse, did you know it has a sour spot? If your opponent is on a plat above you the move does like half the damage and won't even break shields.
@Mepphy99
10 ай бұрын
you'd think you could combo from It ... but no of course not
@mrgrimrjs
10 ай бұрын
I think it might be better if you could at least cancel it
@WOBBLEMASTER
10 ай бұрын
Now thats some niche Dorf tech.
@Moss_Dude
10 ай бұрын
You can use to knock someone off of the platform into a tech that they will almost always miss due to unexpectedness, which you can probably true punish with something alright But that's assuming you hit it of course
@Mepphy99
10 ай бұрын
@@mrgrimrjs it's a tilt, you can't cancel tilts we would be better with a frame 14 move that anti-airs behind you and kill at 90~ ... he would Need It lol
@MrGameguyC
10 ай бұрын
"Steve's Nair doesn't combo" *Shows b-roll footage of it comboing*
@Redpoppy80
10 ай бұрын
About Warlock Punch it is the most commonly misunderstood move on its damage. It is true that it gets stronger in the air and when reversed but the aerial damage bonus ONLY works if the move comes out while Ganon is airborne. It is impossible to get full power on an FD stage with a double jump because while all of the startup is airborne the move itself comes out when Ganon is grounded.
@takarijbartleby
10 ай бұрын
Fun fact about ZSS's forward smash; it is the only smash attack I am aware of that does not increase in percent dealt when fully charged. Knockback does properly scale with charge however.
@YonkoNikaGia
10 ай бұрын
Snakes up smash. Doesn't increase damage or knock back, it only increases the height of the missle.
@takarijbartleby
10 ай бұрын
@@YonkoNikaGia i forgot about that
@lavistalimited4747
10 ай бұрын
I'm fairly sure the same is true for Olimar's smash attacks, as iirc their power depends on the Pikmin you use.
@the_bookworm8281
10 ай бұрын
Another annoying thing about Ridley's Skewer is that the sweetspot of the move doesn't fully cover the tip of the tail, meaning that if you land the move at absolute max distance, you get the sourspot. Rollout is also cursed with having super negative disjoint.
@thescarfguy
10 ай бұрын
I agree that basically every move is useful, but even with it's use, yoshi would literally be a better character without egg roll because you wouldn't accidentally input it instead of b reverse egg toss Edit: honestly ganon is the same way with uptilt. Trying to hit a platform with upsmash, only to watch ganon do the splits for a full second is one of the most depressing things in ultimate. It has more uses than egg roll, but forward smash does nearly everything it does better
@GoldGuard
10 ай бұрын
They should’ve made his up tilt his old up smash from Brawl/Smash 4
@thescarfguy
10 ай бұрын
@@GoldGuard I didn't even think of that, yes!
@X-zz6jm
10 ай бұрын
@@GoldGuardI personally would prefer something more fitting for Ganondorf like something mage related or Sword related. I do understand the appeal of having no endlag move as his up-tilt tho but I feel Ganon has way more than enough physical attacks.
@RandomStando
10 ай бұрын
wish I could just disable Yoshi side b and Ganon up tilt, there is never a moment where I want to use either of them
@Nowel22222
10 ай бұрын
Ive lost multiple tournament sets from doing jump > side b while recovering by accident instead of jump > up b 😢
@nick-cepticon782
10 ай бұрын
Vars: Why no one plays Ridley Also Vars: I think Ridley’s broken
@ayar2
4 ай бұрын
I mean, characters like joker and sephiroth are also broken, yet people rarely play them, Joker because he's too demanding, and Sephi because he's too risky.
@CrescentVA
10 ай бұрын
I think the worst move in the game is the thing where belmonts just stand still and wave their whip around, I don’t remember how it works
@WDWhat-sn9iw
10 ай бұрын
you hold the attack button, either standing or from s-tilt
@demi-femme4821
10 ай бұрын
The whip brandish is really just there for the sake of the reference. I mean, it's an extra move so it's not like they lose anything for having it, and hey, at least it's not like the actual whip brandish from Super Castlevania 4 where it fucks up everything.
@lavistalimited4747
10 ай бұрын
That definitely sucks, but I'd argue that Piranha Plant's Footstool Attack is worse.
@AZSprocket
10 ай бұрын
Yoshi main here. Completely agree with #1. I wish there were other options.
@dennisd.4726
10 ай бұрын
Yep. I'm a falcon main and would love a different neutral B. If falcon could use his gun like wolf laser he might actually be top 25 😂
@orangeslash1667
10 ай бұрын
@@dennisd.4726 F-zero is about High Risk, High Reward. The Falcon Punch is very the same.
@matto5527
10 ай бұрын
I’d rather have no Side B than Egg Roll . I can’t count with both hands the amount of times I’ve accidentally inputted side B instead of a B-Reverse Egg Lay or Throw and gotten punished for it
@Olgeezer06
10 ай бұрын
Isn’t there a cool shield break tech with it though so it has some bit of use
@AZSprocket
10 ай бұрын
@@Olgeezer06 there is, but it's so situational that it's not worth dedicating the move slot for
@ricardoludwig4787
10 ай бұрын
I consider yoshi side b the worst move in the game since its so easy to get it on accident when you're doing b-reverse neutral-Bs or angled Up-Bs, and you definitely get punbished for that more often than an actual use case for the move comes up.
@ClubCrochet
10 ай бұрын
Yoshi side B is dope af I use it all the time. There are some techs that nobody uses for some reason! You can get top speed at immediately on platforms if timed well (about half way into the platform), and not only can you jump while in the egg, which NOBODY knows for some reason, but you can ALSO hold jump when exiting a platform while in air and get a super jump that reaches top platform on battlefield! This means it can combo into itself if you jump when you hit the opponent, dealing a solid 30% on contact, and putting them in a tech situation on platform or pop them in the air which can be very useful in general. It's got insane movement when considering the top speed immediately tech and jumping, making it soooo useful for mixups or escaping. Also you can also stall on ledge before jumping giving you even more options! That all mixed with "Yoshi side b bad" in the meta means that NOBODY knows how to counter it or escape from it, which is why it's among my favorite moves for yoshi. I use it all the time, especially in tournaments away from lag. Best of 5 with me and I'll show you! I'll hyu on discord if I can find you (I'll be Louie's Loops). If you win I'll crochet your main, lose and you just lost to a crochet YT channel😅, also maybe you'll make a video about the "Scrambler" not being trash and change the meta with me😋.
@Wienerdog5
7 ай бұрын
I would never live down the embarrassment of losing at smash to a crochet yt channel
@snivydream
10 ай бұрын
Steves nair can actualy lead to fair loops and even tho its not the most optimal, its still pretty decent
@Sketch_XR
10 ай бұрын
I knew Ridley’s Skewer was going to show up here somewhere. I’m just a bit surprised Ridley’s Down Air didn’t show up somewhere on the list along with it.
@demi-femme4821
10 ай бұрын
Dair is bad but at least sometimes you can catch someone with it and it does something if you do. Skewer is nigh-impossible to use righ and doesn't help all that much besides racking up damage.
@lawsheagaming3021
3 ай бұрын
That's exactly why I clicked on the video. I've been a ridley main since the game came out, and his dair is terrible
@Someone_Somewhere7
Ай бұрын
Yeah dair is ass, but it can do something at least. Skewer only ever warrants its crazy risk if you hit its sweetspot, which will realistically happen once every decade in a serious match.
@CopyNPasteComments
10 ай бұрын
Alternative Title: Top 10 most disrespectful moves
@dogboyton3166
10 ай бұрын
0:49 Robin’s bronze aerials aren’t actually too awful. Sure, 99% of the time you want the Levin variant, but the bronze versions of fair, bair, and up air have some niche uses. Robin’s one of my mains, and when I edgeguard some characters, I’ll actually use my bronze aerials to preserve uses of my Levin aerials. I may use Levin aerials if I’m edgeguarding someone who has a lot of distance on their recovery, though. If you hit bronze up air while landing, it is actually a really good combo tool, going directly to Levin up smash up to around 50% and then Levin up air for a little while after. I’m not going to go into detail about all of Robin’s mechanics, but it is possible to use bronze aerials in the air even if you have Levin sword uses left, and then switch BACK to Levin aerials if you want to, like the landing bronze up air to Levin up air combo. Bronze nair and dair are pretty useless though, if you’re using bronze nair you might as well use bronze fair. Bronze dair is actually useless, or at least very close to.
@heartnet40
10 ай бұрын
Bronze Up-Air unironically is a great juggling tool. If Robin had mobility this move would be a great way to harass people who rely in their air game.
@dogboyton3166
10 ай бұрын
@@heartnet40 You know, that makes me wonder. Would Robin really be that broken if he had actually decent mobility? I’m not talking Captain Falcon level here, but at least enough to where it wouldn’t be considered bad? I don’t think that would make him broken or overpowered, but I’m no expert
@inplane9970
10 ай бұрын
@@dogboyton3166 I doubt it considering Robin already has glaring issues. Having better ground mobility isn't going to fix his dependence on resources, predictable kill options, abusable recovery, and awful disadvantage state. It might help him regain stage control for an advantage state because Thunder into a grounded follow-up would be more plausible, but that's only one extra option and his melee attacks are small enough as is.
@nabi-red
10 ай бұрын
No bronze Dair pretty good it's bronze b air sucks
@dogboyton3166
10 ай бұрын
@@nabi-red How is bronze dair good? Not saying you’re wrong I just want to know
@E_Fig05
10 ай бұрын
Yay, another Vars video.
@gabrielpritchard
10 ай бұрын
I better see EWGF on here ._.
@KanSanyara
10 ай бұрын
Its kinda sad 19 people agreed
@muchiiuchii6368
10 ай бұрын
@@KanSanyaranah dawg, that move is trash. ive lost so many stocks cuz of accidentally mis-inputting it, you gotta wonder why they ever put it in to begin with🤦♂️🤦♂️
@Mepphy99
10 ай бұрын
yeah actually trash move
@IWish2500
10 ай бұрын
Kazuya would probably be top 3 in the game if they replaced EWGF with legit anything else
@Zekken_The_Lodestar
10 ай бұрын
Yeah... A move that stubs opponents, comes out quick, gives near if not full intangibility, is spamable, ang guarantees combos is SURE to be one of the worst moves in the game.
@k.u.5798
10 ай бұрын
Wario's jab combo used to be weak damage wise (9% total) and the first hit was so laggy that it couldn't be used for jab locking. Yup, Wario's jab was signficantly BUFFED, and it still sucks. Something to think about.
@Krona-fb4dn
9 ай бұрын
Speaking of my main (Ridley), I'd argue his down air is definitely one of the worst. It's kill power is its only redeeming quality and its not particularly notable, as it is only killing past 110% or around that range. It's spike, while being absurdly strong for some odd reason, is very brief and the move lacks any disjoint whatsoever. In addition to a nasty 32 frames of landing lag. Every stall and fall dair is better and stall and falls are already considered a pretty bad to meh category of move. The main use cases I have for Dair as Ridley are landing mixups from getting on stage, if you're near the blast zone and out of focus, using dair off the top will land with pretty much zero lag and instantly allowing you to start shielding which is an actual use case or quickly falling to ledge. However I'd argue that jump mixups on a character with 3 jump is more worthwhile and consistently helpful as dair is easy to read and can be beat out by a lot of moves.
@seejoshrun1761
10 ай бұрын
Surprised that Wario's jab was on here instead of his down smash or Samus jab. Totally agree with everything else though!
@PuppetMasterIX
10 ай бұрын
While weak, the semi-spike angle of Wario's down smash gives it utility at ledge. Glutonny occasionally makes use of it in this manner. Samus' Jab 2 sucks, but Jab 1 can at least mix up opponents and lead to reading panic options.
@AverageDoctor345
10 ай бұрын
Shulk jab should have been there instead.
@wesnile3867
9 ай бұрын
10:53 wasnt expecting a clip of my own to make it into a Vars video LOL love your content man, thanks for appreciating my hammer callouts
@DreadnThis
10 ай бұрын
On skewer I've found down smash to be the best option since i skewer near the ledge most and the down smash can hop over get up attack and cover roll.
@adv78
10 ай бұрын
DAMN, that's a good list, just some additional info on Steves Nair: Steve can actually use his nair to set you in position for a fair spike offstage (usually, after you survived the first one) You actually see it pretty often, at low percents, steves go for fair spike -> fastfall -> nair -> fair spike. You can't use Sword Fair in this case because you are already in the air so you can't macro SH aerials. You also see it used often enough to cover space in front of him while drifting backwards (in the air) or while Double Jumping backwards, since it works like jab, it's way safer to nair while drifting away than pick-fair, and it also makes it so you can double jump backwards while keep looking foward (if you DJ during the move). You probably seen people doing it while getting out of the ledge, usually jump get up -> nair while drifting backwards or jump getup -> nair -> backwards DJ -> block Again, it's not a great move, and its pretty niche (specially for a Steve move), but considering he already has Sword Fair/Bair, i think the fact that it has decent use cases is already impressive. Great video btw Vars, nice to see you uploading on this channel again, even after it has slowed down in views (together with most of smash content, for now)
@syrupshrike9742
10 ай бұрын
Imma be real, I think the skewer meta got kind of screwed by the amazing option of up-smash being there for platform tech chases, but also up smash makes tech out the only reliable option if you hope Ridley undershoots his chase, and that makes reading roll out for skewer more realistic to hit (Though very few people do).
@robstanley46
3 ай бұрын
You know a Wario’s jab is bad when his dash attack comes out faster, frame 5 vs frame 8
@kenpatner
10 ай бұрын
Duck's up tilt is turribl. I only use it after tossing out a can to both send it sky-high and to change its direction backwards.
@matthewcurtiss7557
10 ай бұрын
I feel like Ridley's down b is still more useful than his down air.
@carlosvergara4132
10 ай бұрын
I want to propose Samus' up-smash for the top 10 best/worst moves in the game.
@gameboyn64
10 ай бұрын
Zelda's is arguably worse. Hers can't hit battle field plats, has less horizontal range, laggyer on whiff, and i believe is weaker.
@heartnet40
10 ай бұрын
@@gameboyn64Zelda's is actually way better than Samus because it works well with her kit. Rather than being a bunch of small inconsistent hitboxes like Samus', Zelda's Up-Smash is continuous which makes it FAR less prone to dropping opponents. Its also really great at calling out ledge options like jump and when paired with Phantom can help pressure shields. Zelda also has moves that can combo into it like a soft Up-Tilt or certain Phantom levels. It excels way more than Samus', and its generally just because Samus doesnt have anything that synergizes with the move on top of its inconsistentcies.
@gameboyn64
10 ай бұрын
@@heartnet40 Is that zelda's up smash being good or her other moves being good? When people make these videos, like mockrock or esam, they always ask "in a vacuum" or "which other characters would want this". This is because just about every character has a way to create a use case for a move no matter how bad the move is and what you end up analyzing is the characters overall kit instead of the move itself. For example, samus has charge shot which makes opponents have to approach her more vertically. Her fair is also very good at contesting diagonal approaches. This means that her ability to not only pressure platforms but a wider area above her is significantly more valuable as she can force her opponent to contend her up smash where it is most effective. This however speaks more about charge shot than the usefulness of up smash.
@heartnet40
10 ай бұрын
@@gameboyn64Speaking for myself as someone who's played both characters, Zelda's Up-Smash is one of her best stock takers. It stuffs a lot of moves because of it's disjoint and is very strong and it catches rolls and air-dodges much more consistently than F-Smash and reliably than Lightning Kick reads. I think you greatly underestimate the move because as far as Up-Smashes go, it has more use in situations than you think. Yes, it sucks that it doesnt hit above platforms, but it has other useful qualities that make it strong. The fact that its so good at catching jumps alone makes it much better than you would probably assume.
@gameboyn64
10 ай бұрын
@@heartnet40 its not that great at catching rolls. Most spaced rolls can go around it pretty easily, especially with shorter characters. It's disjoint isn't particularly special. Ive baited out a zelda up smash before playing ganon so i could dair right through it and win. It only really works to catch neutral air dodge but a lot of moves can punish a neutral air dodge off a read. Hell I've gotten many falcon punches off of neutral air dodge reads. It's niche of catching jumps off the ledge isn't that special. It straight up loses to ledge attack and ledge roll. On other kits that don't have phantom, it becomes even more irrelevant as many people will often opt to use drop down aerials coming back to stage which up smash will not cover.
@wolfbeat6427
10 ай бұрын
I'd say the main reason why Warlock Punch is better than Falcon Punch is it's raw strength. If you break an opponent's shield (which ganon is one of the better ones at) it is one of the strongest options to punish, only being beaten by a lucky hero, roy/chrom and something else that I'm probably forgetting and these moves also drain a characters resources (health, mp). Also Falcon Punch is just completely useless for a shield break, because Falcon's F-Smash is just as strong (what can't be completely said for Ganon)
@spookster2265
10 ай бұрын
Great stuff man I think for future video ideas after this just ask "whats fun to talk about?" Your analysis would do well for analyzing historical sets. You could break down the decisions made, the impact in the community, and how they reflected their metas at the time
@lavistalimited4747
10 ай бұрын
Good video as always, a few thoughts. - ZSS Forward Smash is awful, no one is denying that, but idk if I'd call it the worst. In a vacuum, I'd definitely trade Snake's or King Dedede's Forward Smash for it as those smash attacks are really only saved by being on trap based characters. In context, however, you would have more of a case of saying that she has the worst forward smash in the game but I think I'd say that spot goes to Squirtle instead. It's slower than ZSS coming out at frame 20 and while it's safer on shield, it can't catch spot dodges like ZSS can due to it not being a two parter. - Something that makes Ridley's Skewer even worse is that it lost the occasional down throw into Skewer that players would sometimes do as they changed the properties of Skewer to be classified as a grab in a game with protection against chain grabs. - Some moves I think could fit on this list. The Belmont's Whip Dangle, Piranha Plant's Footstool Attack, Samus' Jab, Jigglypuff's Rollout and Wario's Down Smash.
@turbinefromblackops2138
10 ай бұрын
Im so happy hearing some positive talk on Warlock Punch. It gets trashed on too much, landing it is rare, but if yoj do it is almost guaranteed to kill whoever your fighting with its absurd power. Plus Im biased and love it
@DiverseStyle
10 ай бұрын
Before video: *Ooh this looks fun* Listening to start of video: *Now I have to go play Blue Archive*
@booludlow9348
10 ай бұрын
Like Falcon Punch, Ridley's tail is another move that you throw out if you have a massive lead and it just demoralizes if it lands. Doesn't get the same crowd excitement, though. Once I threw it out offstage against a Ganon. Somehow landed, and not just that, but stage spiked the poor guy with it. Connection immediately died-I've never experienced anyone cut their internet so fast.
@MichaelKulikov-wr8oy
3 ай бұрын
If you're going to say that Steve's short hop fair and bair are different from his nair, then you should consider jab and f tilt as different moves as well
@ArclinusCastoral
10 ай бұрын
For the ZZS players, up angled f-smash has the most kill power at ledge if you find yourself needing it, anyway.
@Alonzone
5 ай бұрын
There’s more to why Egg Roll is so terrible. Imo it’s actually worse than Rollout. Reason 1: Mis-inputing this move is a nightmare. There are times where you want to use Reverse Egg Lay, but instead you become an egg. Reason 2: It’s at its worst when used in the air. You are literally a falling hurtbox that can barely move. Reason 3: It’s kills you more than it helps you. Whenever you’re offstage and try to do Double Jump Egg Throw to help yourself get back and live, you instead do Egg Roll which will guarantee a stock loss.
@strawb4983
10 ай бұрын
True, i really didn’t know what steve’s nair was until now. I’ve always wanted to learn but am too lazy to find a “killing with every steve move “ video or acola matches
@michaelsponseller5337
10 ай бұрын
falcon punch literally cannot be removed. it can be tweaked, touched, prodded, tickled, but if falcons neutral b is ever not a big ass punch, that’s not captain falcon
@sylvaticriver5428
10 ай бұрын
you're severely underrating steve's nair in this video. it's very useful as not only a mid-air combo extender, but it's also an insane gimping tool due to its fast startup, low endlag, and ability to just hold to spam making it an almost consistent hitbox. It also has low knockback and high hitstun which is great for gimping. In the context of his kit it has a lot of unexpected use. Nair OOS is sometimes referred over SH-fair/bar. It's also widely used as a followup to a fair spike both on and off stage. it's great as a followup to minecart and extends a lot of combo routes. It's also very useful to use for blockless combos using the short double jump tech. and if you rate outside the context of his kit it's just better. it still has all of these benefits, but doesn't get outshined by the rest of steve's kit. Like you said it's basically aerial steve jab, but steve's jab is literally the best jab in the game. without the context of SH-far/bair, Nair suddenly becomes an amazing OOS option that combos into imagination at mid percent, and leads to some nice followups too at low percent, while still being a really quick frame 7 OOS option which some characters would kill for. Like, in steve's own kit, Nair isn't even his worst move. And outside of his kit, it is in no way the worst nair either
@raphaelchan7574
9 ай бұрын
Worst move is kaclang, because it's super easy to punish and the falling hitbox is impossible to connect. At least yoshi egg roll and kirby hammer, as bad as they are, can break shields. It's very specific but it can still happen. Kaclang is just a frame >=60 down air which does like 18%
@sephangel7893
10 ай бұрын
BA OST in the back. I love it.
@i_want.to_sleep_Rn.
7 ай бұрын
Bro, is that Blue Archive music?! You sure have good taste!
@myname2590
10 ай бұрын
Hocus Pocus is a uniquely awful move. Most of these moves at least have good outcomes when you land them and can be used after a shield break or when you are safe. Because all of the negative outcomes of Hocus Pocus are more likely than the positive ones Hocus Pocus is the only move in the game that increases your chances of losing no matter when you use it. Even if you shield break your opponent or just use Hocus Pocus at centre stage while your opponent is off stage the odds of you losing the game increase when you use Hocus Pocus. You also have no idea what the effect is going to be so you can't even outplay your opponent by making a read like you can with other bad moves. On the other hand it's also one of the biggest 'cheater' moves and has arguably the best rewards when things do go your way.
@nathanosborn98
10 ай бұрын
I don’t think you mentioned this but zss fsmash is infamous for people just falling out of it Tbh her entire character is Marss knows this very well lmao
@MandalorianRaider
10 ай бұрын
Piranha Plant back air isn't even bad, I'm glad you chose not to include it.
@thepaintingbanjo8894
10 ай бұрын
I remember playing the first SSB and seeing how busted OG Falcon Punch was in its startup and ending lag. Why can't we have that back?
@Azusashusband
10 ай бұрын
Wasn't expecting to hear a Blue Archive theme here
@eonamiella2124
10 ай бұрын
Another thing to mention about ZSS fsmash is that people just pop out sometimes, it's a horrible move. I don't know why they changed her fsmashfrom Brawl, it had good range and was a single move. Dsmash to fsmash was more viable there. On top of functionality the move just looks awkward and bland, in general I'm not a fan of how they took most of her plasma whip moves and turned them into generic kicks. The plasma whip helped the character stand out more instead of just being more like sci fi sheik with a gun Also surprised you didn't include Shulk's jab, I would think it's worse than Wario's for how slow it is
@salsa7453
10 ай бұрын
the worse the move the cooler it is to hit
@andrewcavallo1877
8 ай бұрын
I’d consider DDD dash attack for this list, super slow startup and very long end lag. The animation is very exposing throughout all parts of the move, and more often than not you’ll just get punished when using it. It kills, but in pretty every scenario where you might consider a dash attack, his down tilt is just more useful. DDD dash attack seems like a move that should have armor but doesn’t, I think it might actually be viable if it did
@charley2714
7 ай бұрын
As a Dedede main I completely disagree In a vacuum and on any other character yes, it would be the worst in the game But with Dedede's kit specifically it's amazing and one of his best kill confirms if you learn to use it. It has a lasting hitbox after he lands and can 2 frame people trying to grab ledge. You can also use it to tech chase opponents, and use it to land on opponents as they hit the ground. There's a lot of combos you can use this as a finisher for as well And I mean cmon, it's the strongest damage wise dash attack in the entire game, it kills OBSURDLY fast. It's basically a fourth Smash attack that Dedede has in his kit The point you're trying to make is that it's bad at filling the role of a dash attack, which is fair. But if you actually learn to use his dash attack affectively and use it for what it's meant to do it's an amazingly strong part of his kit. The AMOUNT of kills I've gotten with it, and seen other players get with it also is staggering, even on a competitive level And like you said, if you need something to fill the role of a dash attack, he has down tilt
@andrewcavallo1877
7 ай бұрын
@@charley2714 fair points, fair points. I’m by no means a DDD expert but I play him for fun sometimes, I always find his dash attack hardest to implement in game, but I probably just have to experiment more with it
@charley2714
7 ай бұрын
@@andrewcavallo1877 Using downsmash, F throw, or Gordo to send enemies forward and then landing on them with dash attack before they can tech is a good place to start Funnily enough his Dash attack works better as an F smash than his actual F smash
@royceisthebestrapper7686
10 ай бұрын
Came for the move info, stayed for the correct Ridley opinion, character is absurdly privileged lmao.
@jasomega2446
10 ай бұрын
6:00 Good Idea
@soundrogue4472
10 ай бұрын
Ah; I was hoping the attacks themselves would get their own video versus the normal attacks, you know; a video for specials and a video of normal jabs and stuff.
@bobert555555
10 ай бұрын
I was half expecting “all of little macs aerials” to be on this list. Little Mac is just top tier I guess.
@CaptinOD
10 ай бұрын
Sorry if you’ve done this before, could you build what your dream character would be? Complete move set and mechanics from any character.
@mcgyverac9415
10 ай бұрын
I better see Corrin counter on here Okay maybe not top 10 worst but still up there.
@Sticker_By_NCT_127
3 ай бұрын
Mii Brawler counter worse
@mcgyverac9415
3 ай бұрын
@@Sticker_By_NCT_127 who?
@Sticker_By_NCT_127
3 ай бұрын
@@mcgyverac9415 M-mii brawler? Like, one of the three Mii's in the game?
@s.a.k.i7768
10 ай бұрын
*GASP* BLUE ARCHIVE Soundtrack??! :D
@kisapniaq
10 ай бұрын
Byleth down special, Mac down air, mac fair, mac uAir, egg roll, Samus jab, Simon “jab”, hero up smash, villager jab, falcon punch, ganon up tilt, wario jab Probably missing some genuinely terrible moves but yeah that’s the summary I’d give
@OddRick3113
10 ай бұрын
Okay but Mac dair assists his recovery a bit.
@Saxnavarro
10 ай бұрын
also, Ivysaur neutral special 🦔👍
@substitutedoll5224
10 ай бұрын
broh did you even watch the damn video also villagers jab is nowhere NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAR as bad as many others its still a frame 3 infinite that deals 20+ percent what're you thinkin
@kisapniaq
10 ай бұрын
@@substitutedoll5224 I wanted to make some guesses, and was wrong on some but right on others! It’s not that deep lnfao
@elisevanbeethoven
10 ай бұрын
missing jigglypuff sing
@legendarysoil1064
10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but Steve’s nair is decent on anyone but him. It would combo so hard on any character with decent mobility for so long it’s insane. The fact it doesn’t send into tumble for so long means anyone with a killing forward of back air would abuse the shit out of it
@Gradient___
10 ай бұрын
Disonourable Mention: Wario's down smash. Comes out at frame 8 and....that's about it. It's -44 on shield and dreadful kill power. Worst down smash in the game IMO.
@MakeAmericaLiftAgain
10 ай бұрын
These vids are top tier ASMR as well.
@verbage432
10 ай бұрын
Some sonic main is probably gonna come in here and overexagerate how bad his up-air is
@nefalissys9630
10 ай бұрын
11:24 Vars we know you are only saying that because Ridley beats Cloud (Seriously though, I would agree that Ridley is underrated)
@itsyaboijay073
10 ай бұрын
Ridley and surprisingly dk are great counters to swordies cuz of their long limbs
@BocchitheGwak
10 ай бұрын
WE LOVE THE BA MUSIC LETS GOOO
@hippolyte5248
10 ай бұрын
Ok I'm watching now and if yoshi's side b isn't mentioned I'll throw a fit Edit : ok I'm quickly reassured
@xxvolcomxx56
10 ай бұрын
dude steve’s nair being one of the worst moves in the game is the hottest of takes
@arcubi487
10 ай бұрын
It's funny how so much of the characters that had the ''best moves'' have also the ''worst moves''
@XykonOverlord
10 ай бұрын
As a Ganon main I hate volcano kick. I misinput semi-frequently expecting an actually useful up-tilt to come out. F-Smash and Warlock Punch do anything that volcano kick could do better. Just give him K-rool’s up-tilt and I’d be thrilled.
@Erokingu
10 ай бұрын
volcano kick is the worst move because because it's the only one who take up-tilt from a caractere every other move have something to replace it
@robertminor8460
10 ай бұрын
I'm kinda surprised that Robin's down smash (bronze sword) didn't make this list. I get that it's supposed to be bad, but good lord that move does like 5%, has a ton of endlag, and doesn't even cover behind him.
@carloss7655
10 ай бұрын
he literally said at the beginning he wont be including robins bronze sword moves
@BasterdSonkKong
9 ай бұрын
I just got killed by hero upsmash on 15% while watching this im not even kidding lmfao😂😅
@Geo34
10 ай бұрын
Falcon punch is PEAK AND YOU KNOW IT!
@robertlasher9246
10 ай бұрын
Ivy saur bullet seed I’m hoping is hwrw
@dee6561
10 ай бұрын
I don't believe you about Steve Nair.
@riseshredder5287
10 ай бұрын
I almost never see this move mentioned in these types of videos but Banjo’s up air is actually useless. It does no damage, doesn’t kill, it’s a multi hit so sometimes both hits just won’t connect, and it’s a horrible juggling tool because it doesn’t even combo into itself like you think an up air of that nature would, not even at low percent. If you’re going to use an anti air as Banjo you might as well use uptilt.
@lewyn5797
10 ай бұрын
I love Banjo, but, yeah. I am also disappointed with his jab, as it feels that it has lesser range than others
@heartnet40
10 ай бұрын
Banjo D-Air is probably worse than Up-Air because at least Up-Air is a harmless combo extension. Banjo D-Air is weak, slow, and has a mediocre spike hit-box that also has a ton of lag. It's genuinely detrimental to Banjo gameplay.
@Sash_le_Taciturne
10 ай бұрын
What about Samus'jab and Pacman'up tilt ? They're reaaally bad, the jab of Samus doesn't connect with itself sometimes and the range of PacMan jab is garbage x)
@AverageDoctor345
10 ай бұрын
Steve's nair can join Brawl Meta Knight's jab in the "terrible move on an otherwise overtuned character" club. Does Smash 4 Bayo have anything like this?
@heartnet40
10 ай бұрын
Her F-Tilt combo still kinda sucked and her bullets in Smash 4 were really underwhelming because of infinite airdodges.
@inplane9970
10 ай бұрын
Bayo's Jab, FTilt, janky UTilt and DAir hitboxes, and Bullet Arts in general were kind of bad. Aside from DTilt and NAir Bullet Arts, the mechanic is still redundant and even detrimental. Doing Witch Twist or ABK and accidentally holding down B for a few frames too long will add endlag and mess up the combo's flow.
@luisreyes1963
10 ай бұрын
Good to see Minecraft Steve get some criticism for once. 😊
@hatsudopia5085
10 ай бұрын
If you count grabs villagers is like pac man in smash 4 bad
@LADYLXCK
10 ай бұрын
How are we not talking ab Toad in this video.
@arkokroeger9799
10 ай бұрын
I think i had the idea with beam on kirby on your discord :D
@heartnet40
10 ай бұрын
Banjo D-Air really needed to be on here. It is move so bad it actually does more for your opponent than it does for Banjo.
@jmann531
9 ай бұрын
He should be able to bounce off people like Greninja. I'm pretty sure he does it in his games.
@gdmrhotshot3731
10 ай бұрын
Glad to see that this is still happening in 2023
@theenderkirby
10 ай бұрын
No memtion of piranah plant's footstool attack lol
@ansonpoon4814
10 ай бұрын
Wtf blue archive music in a smash video
@wigglerwednesday
10 ай бұрын
pac-man up tilt
@Lopster_Real
10 ай бұрын
pac man up tilt
@kylelemon4230
10 ай бұрын
Poor falcon punch literaly the worst of its kind
@ridgenyan-botxv367
10 ай бұрын
Eyyyyy blue archive lets goooooooo
@Meanpingasmachine
9 ай бұрын
Why didn't you put PK Thunder on here?
@derpalopeincorporations8441
10 ай бұрын
what is the song at the beginning
@Zigzorark
10 ай бұрын
Sora down air. Just Sora down air
@calebhamblin2748
3 ай бұрын
Little macs aerials still have their uses so they arent as bad as everyone says they are. Not saying that they're good in all 'cause their trash.
@alexnoren6141
10 ай бұрын
People dont know that ridley is acutally crazy good if he wasnt huge he would be broken with thise hitboxes
@KazoomuneSSB
10 ай бұрын
What have you done
@PrinceSamTV
10 ай бұрын
Steve’s neutral B is objectively the worst in the game
@lucack6348
10 ай бұрын
This video is just why no one play Ganon. 😂
@waffleking6474
10 ай бұрын
I don't think kirby hammer charge is as bad as the other moves on this list. Its pretty decent for ledge trapping. Would I want it replaced for beam? Yes.
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