The issue was that Rishi Sunak claimed the figures were entirely independent. They were not. This is a lie. Don't defend the degradation of our political discourse. It's not "better" to be down in the gutter. Politics might be a game to you, but some people's lives are drastically affected by cuts to public services!
@mjrhitchin
2 ай бұрын
thank you !
@philipnerland1150
2 ай бұрын
If you lie , cheat , and are too cute with the public 19% is a bloody miracle .
@STM2811
2 ай бұрын
So Farage and Starmer are crusaders of truth who want to ally themselves with the liar of the century (Trump). The logic is mind-boggling
@58deluxe8
2 ай бұрын
Great coment. Amazing really.
@STM2811
2 ай бұрын
@@58deluxe8 So Farage and Starmer are crusaders of truth who want to ally themselves with the liar of the century (Trump). The logic is mind-boggling. Perhaps you can explain how it works.
@Colin623
2 ай бұрын
If you get 40%+ and still lying then that's even more than amazing, but then anyone in but the Tories is true, they deserve every lost vote !
@STM2811
2 ай бұрын
@@Colin623 Starmer is true? Really?
@HXT_916
2 ай бұрын
Stop trying to defend the Tories. I know they pay you, and your journalists are their godparents, but at least try and be impartial.
@emersonmsd
2 ай бұрын
I feel that the Times is really anti Torie not pro.
@piccalillipit9211
2 ай бұрын
Murdoch owned...
@31Blaize
2 ай бұрын
@@emersonmsd it is absolutely not anti-Tory.
@ShahidKhan-ke8fe
2 ай бұрын
What Rupert wants, Rupert gets.
@zakjuly6721
2 ай бұрын
Sick and tired of Mass immigration ❤...... loss of identity and culture ... Crime .... WELL HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO VOTE FOR REFORM
@jasoncooper9391
2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't believe a Tory even if they were telling the truth
@philallen7626
2 ай бұрын
If they said it was sunny, you'd reach for an umbrella
@jeffsimon9594
2 ай бұрын
I see you are pasting that comment on multiple videos
@jsd8981
2 ай бұрын
A very good point agreed totaly....
@finlybenyunes8385
2 ай бұрын
A very big IF...
@jasoncooper9391
2 ай бұрын
@@jeffsimon9594 well done sherlock
@TW19567
2 ай бұрын
How on earth is the conversation not on the fact that taxes are at the highest they have been for a generation and yet the country is in a dire state with literally everything falling apart. Where's all the tax from the last 5 years disappeared to???
@oitoitoi1
2 ай бұрын
it's in the pockets of tory donors.
@piccalillipit9211
2 ай бұрын
Tory owned media...!!!
@CA_I
2 ай бұрын
Its perverse, they've frozen the personal allowance until 2028 and are responsible for the taxing of the state pension. Why isn't Starmer asking these sorts of questions?
@BadgerBoy59
2 ай бұрын
Michelle Mone, energy companies being subsidised, train operators being subsidised, water companies being subsidised, Tory Party donors being given lucrative contracts...the list goes on
@oitoitoi1
2 ай бұрын
@@CA_I agree wish he had been more aggressive in the debate. sunak absolutely implodes under pressure as we see every week at pmq's.
@GarethMachin-rb2sg
2 ай бұрын
All my life the tories and their media chums have aggressively attacked Labour's spending plans. Long overdue that Labour calls out this tory tax lie. More objectivity is needed without doubt but all parties would need to agree to the rules and abide by them. This will backfire on tories. This is ultimately not about tax but character of the invidual political players. Starmer wins hands down.
@TelfordO
2 ай бұрын
People can see straight through the Tories lies, straight through the Tory Supporting press. The game is up
@1984Scholsey
2 ай бұрын
The Tories are identical to labour the game is up on both... Just Google "Kier Starmer Murdoch" Both are establishment puppets.
@particlecloud
2 ай бұрын
Pretty clear who Kate votes for, isn't it?
@stephenhill545
2 ай бұрын
She does work for Murdoch.
@jonnobloggs8642
2 ай бұрын
She's a raging Corbynist !
@ArjunGhag-ix7te
2 ай бұрын
Kate is one of few reporters trustees by most voters with Kunesberg Tominey & Portillo- apologise to her. Starmer was caught on photo doing Beergate Partygate in Durham. He also broke most of his 10 promises. He also broke his biggest promise of about £28B on green deal climate actions. So voters will not be impressed by his accusations of lies. If Sunak does not do a deal with Farage, he could be wiped out like 1990s Conservatives of Canada You gov have slashed Labours lead from 27% to 21%. ReformUK have almost doubled thier polls to 17% since the return of Farage. Who is beloved by normal folk like Robin Hood (v/s Sheriff Starmer & King John Sunak).
@pathopewell1814
2 ай бұрын
I am and always be an ardent Conservative voter..Their time will come around stronger than ever, after this charade of Labour or Reform have ruined the Country even further once more.
@chris6559
2 ай бұрын
@@pathopewell1814 I bet nothing changes your mind! Like facts and evidence..
@TheAegisClaw
2 ай бұрын
The Tories have increased the tax burden by £13,000 since 2019 for the average family. Labour have committed to NO increase in income taxes, VAT or NI. Taxes beyond that dont concern working people.
@susannamarker2582
2 ай бұрын
Well read off the Labour party homepage. With Q4 2024 at 2.2%, my vote is with Rishi Sunak.
@BadgerBoy59
2 ай бұрын
@@susannamarker2582 Where on their home page does it say that? I just had a look through and there's no mention of that figure anywhere. Moreso, I'm interested in why you're going to vote Conservative even after the last 14 years? Before you say anything like "LaBoUr WoUlD Be WoRsE", pretty-much all statistics on child poverty, general poverty, immigration, the NHS, the economy (especially national debt), and more, demonstrably show that since 2010 things have gotten a heck of a lot worse under the Conservatives.
@STM2811
2 ай бұрын
Starmer is a crusader of truth who wants to ally with the liar of the century (Trump). Taxes may not go up, but UKs involvement in useless affairs will. And Scotland may get a brand new Golf resort plus a Washington-upon-thames resort for Trump's holiday visits. We can all rejoice about Starmer's no tax rise promise.
@susannamarker2582
2 ай бұрын
@@BadgerBoy59 Q4 2024 inflation at 2.2% says it all for me. Rishi has worked well with the B of Eng on that score. Also, what does a hard-left lawyer like Starmer know about market economics ? At the end of the day, it's a simple choice.
@ScandalUK
2 ай бұрын
@@susannamarker2582 sunak has had zero influence on inflation. Just as he admits when it soars.
@BenRobinson1974
2 ай бұрын
Lame attempt at excusing Sunaks blatant dishonesty and outright lying. Shame on you.
@garyturner5739
2 ай бұрын
The same apologists who tried to defend appalling lies of 2019 election.
@wolfgangwalk337
2 ай бұрын
The recommendable YT-channel "A different Bias" has a really good take on it where the difference is, and these commentators/analysts are just again lying into the public's face. It's one thing to come up with some questionable calculations. It's another thing to claim about 10 times that these are calculations by public servants, WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER BY THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS TELLING YOU TO STOP LYING ABOUT THEM! Not even trying to tell these things apart is paving the way for fascism.
@mrtom3297
2 ай бұрын
Watch the covid, post office enquiry and you'll understand why people are sick of lies.
@darrenholden7447
2 ай бұрын
But they are absolute LIARS
@chriselliott726
2 ай бұрын
The Tories are grubby. Really grubby.
@STM2811
2 ай бұрын
So Farage and Starmer are crusaders of truth who want to ally themselves with the liar of the century (Trump). The logic is mind-boggling
@Colin623
2 ай бұрын
True, but in five years from now this will be the comments on here about Labour, seen it so many times !
@STM2811
2 ай бұрын
@@Colin623 Public memory is short. We've forgotten Iraq and the 45 min claim so quickly.
@susannamarker2582
2 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself what a hard-left lawyer like Starmer knows about market economics. Not a lot.
@Geffo555
2 ай бұрын
@@Colin623 The country was in a far better position 14 years ago than it is now. We had a better standard of living when Labour were in power. The NHS actually functioned. Schools were properly funded and staffed. And our rivers were not full of Tory policies.
@davidhowarth8885
2 ай бұрын
Fraser Nelson in the Spectator has estimated that the Tories' plans will result in tax rises of £3,000 per household. And he's a Tory!
@georgesdelatour
2 ай бұрын
The fact that Nelson identifies as a Conservative is one reason the Party needs to be destroyed. He's a Blairite.
@kawallabair3216
2 ай бұрын
It's not that the calculation was produced. It's that it was stated to be independent and produced by the Treasury. It's perfectly normal to release analysis on what you think someone will do when given the opportunity. It's quite another to claim that analysis as independent when it clearly isn't. The analysis is fine; The lies aren't.
@philipnerland1150
2 ай бұрын
Boris lied , acted as if they were not bound by the Laws and Rules , what are voters to do ? Throw the bums out .
@johnnymism
2 ай бұрын
Why don't the media call lying out? This is why people are fed up with this, spin and never answering the question.
@taykitrleevitt4314
2 ай бұрын
Call me cynical, but money has to be the driving force behind them supporting the Tories.
@graemelake657
2 ай бұрын
So Starmer is at fault for Sinaks lies? The mental gymnastics is off the page
@TFx2TV
2 ай бұрын
its probably actually Jeremy Corbyn's
@user-zc4yd9ss7h
2 ай бұрын
They deserve less than 10%. Sunak's Labour tax hike myth has failed to cut through, and exposed him as a cheap liar.
@billywoodward584
2 ай бұрын
I wish I were in a position of power, Rishi Sunak and his wealthy mates would be subject to quite a bit more than a 10% tax increase, he's been quick to tax me as a disabled pensioner who has been badly impacted by energy bill increases, and the cost of groceries rocketing.
@AndrewClose-oi6ct
2 ай бұрын
Calling out a liar is “unhelpful” that is absolutely staggering.
@Woodzta
2 ай бұрын
Do you people even listen to these videos or care about the points being made? It's like you're all sitting here waiting for one sentence to get outraged over.
@TFx2TV
2 ай бұрын
"just accept that its normal politics :D"
@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328
2 ай бұрын
The rich paying an extra £500 a year to sort out public services sounds fair to me
@jeffmurray6219
2 ай бұрын
Sounds good, but who are the rich ?
@BrianMartin-ph7pt
2 ай бұрын
I have worked in the public sector - waste, fraud, corruption, theft, non jobs due to nepotism, socialism and bone idle incompetence are the order of the day. Too many people work in the public sector because they would be sacked in 2 weeks in the private sector.
@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328
2 ай бұрын
@@jeffmurray6219 The ones for whom £500 is a day's wage
@edwardlook970
2 ай бұрын
Apart from the 'socialism' these points are also true of the private sector.@BrianMartin-ph7pt
@user-s1o3nr532
2 ай бұрын
@@edwardlook970 True. I've worked in both and the only difference really is that the public sector is meticulous when it comes to staying within the law and following the rules - there's waste in both and probably always will be. Given the explosion in the wealth of millionaires and billionaires, a wealth tax is inevitable and that could be easily applied to assets in the same way as the old rates system was to housing.
@jeffreywyatt6425
2 ай бұрын
40 new hospitals - remember that one -:) How anyone can vote for them is a miracle!
@bottleneck4593
2 ай бұрын
Surely you have the intelligence to recognise the Brexit Party and Nigel Farage had no ability to implement Brexit. Regrettably we had to rely on the incumbent government the Conservative Party to ensure Brexit was implemented. That didn’t happen. I read recently that the new hospitals were never prioritised. Vote REFORM.
@mrpocock
2 ай бұрын
The parties are not only being quiet about how bad things are, but they are being quiet about the underlying reasons. Because they can't admit the action required to address those reasons. It's a mess. I'm hoping Labour get a big enough majority to be able to fix some of it unencumbered. But we are overdue a national conversation about the impacts of offshoring wealth, and of brexit.
@algernonsidney8746
2 ай бұрын
"...and of brexit." YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD!
@Jon-hh3gz
2 ай бұрын
Sky news said the Tories have increased taxes by 13,000 since 2019...x6.5 what they are accusing labour 🤣. All these sums I assume are integrals so the sum over 5 years and presumably over multiple taxes.
@Joe-og6br
2 ай бұрын
Sunak did lie. Labour are rightly shouting this from the rooftops. If someone lies they need to be called out on it.
@monged4life442
2 ай бұрын
The Times are bizarre in that some of the biggest leaks from the Tory party have been made by Times jouranlists, bombshell things which wouldn't have seen the light of day otherwise.... Then you come to their presenters who try to spin it as "not so bad" for them, and "but what about Labour!" It's like they work for different companies.
@RDHamel
2 ай бұрын
Um… they lied… so… we should say they lied? How is that not good for voters. Don’t get it.
@BadgerBoy59
2 ай бұрын
She doesn't want political parties to accuse each other of lying, so what else was Starmer meant to say when Rishi told a blatant lie?
@DS9TREK
2 ай бұрын
He "misspoke" that's how they like it said
@BlyatimirPootin
2 ай бұрын
What she means is its ok for the Tories to lie but not to be pulled up on it.
@bobikdylan
2 ай бұрын
What else do you call a liar except liar?
@BadgerBoy59
2 ай бұрын
The Tory's don't like be called-out for what they are. They accuse others of being "snowflakes" yet don't like being called names themselves, even when it's true.
@0MG.N0
2 ай бұрын
A Boris?
@TelfordO
2 ай бұрын
A Tory MP or worse a PM
@darthwiizius
2 ай бұрын
I can think of another 4 letter word, it rhymes with "Berkshire hunt" and really works if preceded by "lying".
@garyturner5739
2 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@truebluehube
2 ай бұрын
When the country is falling apart, who is going to vote for someone promising to lower taxes and therefore make services and infrastructure even worse?
@wolfeflambe
2 ай бұрын
You’d be surprised
@bottleneck4593
2 ай бұрын
There is no correlation between taxes and the quality of services provided. Surely you recognise lazy overpaid incompetent people in your own life. If these people were removed those left behind would simply fill the gap by thinking and working faster. We have lazy deadbeat politicians on all sides. Look at the Labour Party front bench for example. Do you really believe these morons can put our country right? The Tories are broken. With a few exceptions none of them can be trusted. The Tories betrayed every one of us. They cannot be allowed to survive. They are rotten to the core. We need a new party that thinks differently. Recognises competence and puts that competence in charge where it can make an immediate difference. Reform I believe is that party. Vote REFORM.
@bikingbirder2010
2 ай бұрын
When a sitting (!) PM lies eleven times in a televised debate it takes the levels of dishonest in politicians to a new low. Eleven times Sunak repeated the lie. DisgustIng LAIR!
@user-fu4iw5dx3f
2 ай бұрын
And Starmer didn't spot any of them at the time, far more concerning, lol
@TheSuperPsychoKiller
2 ай бұрын
In a general election tv debate, each lie should equal one year in prison. Sunak should be locked up for eleven years.
@chrisgrimes1268
2 ай бұрын
Its been 13000 over the last 5 years with the tories delivering a broken country. 2000 for better services sounds good to me. Also making excuses for the tories lieing .... i wonder why the country is broken
@frogandspanner
2 ай бұрын
Labour has a smoking gun, the Treasury letter, to _prove_ Sunak is a liar. Sunak is a smirking goon who proves he is a liar.
@Gerrygambone
2 ай бұрын
Could the Liberals be the official opposition ?
@piccalillipit9211
2 ай бұрын
YES. its entirely possible that Reform are the 2nd largest party by VOTES and have no seats... Now I cant stand Reform - but that is a constitutional crisis
@31Blaize
2 ай бұрын
One can only hope!
@lukedowdall5172
2 ай бұрын
Nope but the is a chance reform could be.....
@Gerrygambone
2 ай бұрын
@@lukedowdall5172 July 5th is going to be very interesting. Labour are certs to win, everything else is up in the air. I dislike both the Tories and Reform, but it would be unfair if Reform get many more votes than the Libs and have far less seats than the Libs.
@alfresco8442
2 ай бұрын
@@lukedowdall5172 With a predicted 0 -2 seats? I'd pay good money to see that. Libs, on the other hand are within a whisker of the Tories.
@simoncook8455
2 ай бұрын
Since 2019 the Tories have increased tax on every British household by £13,000, (OBR) they are the party of tax.
@31Blaize
2 ай бұрын
Once again, the Times covering for the Tories. The point is not that the figure was obtained, the lie was about claiming it was obtained *independently*. It was not. It was obtained politically. I do think it should stop though.
@CodeCancerLab
2 ай бұрын
If someone tells a lie on you it is the responsibility of the liar to correct the record.
@mrtom3297
2 ай бұрын
Brexit also continues to knock the economy.
@BrianMartin-ph7pt
2 ай бұрын
Feel free to leave for an EU "Member State" if you don't like democracy.
@user-wp9jj2qx7y
2 ай бұрын
Brexit hasn't happened; that's what's knocking the economy.
@Geffo555
2 ай бұрын
@@BrianMartin-ph7pt What has democracy got to do with it? Leave won, and the UK has left the EU. But that that doesn't mean we are not allowed to be critical of it. And let's be honest, there's a lot to to be critical of. Even those who just objected to immigration have got done by it.
@kevinsmarts9953
2 ай бұрын
@@BrianMartin-ph7pt The majority of people in the UK now want to be in the EU. Will you respect democracy and support moves to rejoin? Or do you only like democracy when it aligns with your views?
@BrianMartin-ph7pt
2 ай бұрын
Don't like democracy? LEAVE THE UK!
@jeremygreenwood1021
2 ай бұрын
As far as I'm aware Starmer hasn't called out the lie, he has let the facts speak for themselves.
@tajj7
2 ай бұрын
Er how was their £2k figure 'reasonably conservative'? First biggest point is Labour don't have a manifesto so the Tories have no real idea about what Labour's plans really are so were just making it up. Secondly the 2k figure was over FOUR YEARS and they presented it as if it was a year, so even if you go by dodgy Tory advisers and their assumptions, the figure should have been £500. Then we have to look that they basically took the assumed spending plans, totalled a cost and then spread it out across every working household in the UK, completely ignoring the fact that not all tax across all households is even as richer householders pay more tax, and also completely ignoring that households are not the only form of tax, there are of course businesses, VAT, capital gains, etc. etc. so it is completely simplistic to suggest that Labour's plans need X money so we get that X amount from just working households when they have already outlined plans to close tax exemptions, loopholes etc. like private schools not paying VAT. It is basically a complete fabrication from start to finish. A bunch of school children could have come up with a better figure.
@anthonysteel6877
2 ай бұрын
How can the Tories expect anybody to believe their attacks on Labour when taxes are at the highest level for 70 years.Everything that is wrong with / in Britain is the result of decades of policies that have prioritised looking after the rich at the expense of everything /everybody else.
@ollie311
2 ай бұрын
Nigel’s milkshake brings all the people to the rally
@kevinsmarts9953
2 ай бұрын
Never resulted in him winning an election though. I wouldn't bank on him.
@mikewilson8513
2 ай бұрын
The sitting Tory MP for Clacton had 73% of the vote last time. That is huge. Even though the Tories are rock bottom, Farage is not going to overturn that percentage. It's a safe a seat as almost any in the country. So it will be election defeat number eight for the toad.
@John-nu1vp
2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't call out lies because it encourages people to distrust politics hahahaha get that fool out of here
@pitmatix1457
2 ай бұрын
The Tory supporting press don't like the idea of lies actually being called out and there being consequences? People are sick of Tory lies and sick of the press lying on their behalf.
@anthonyhill6943
2 ай бұрын
Labour should put up taxes but those taxes should be targeted at the very wealthy. After all, the Tories have been very obscenely generous in favour of the rich for over a decade. Furthermore the Tories have been totally responsible for the mess we are in. They should be held to account.
@BrianMartin-ph7pt
2 ай бұрын
How about taxing MP's at 50% on their £91000 annual salary then?
@georgesdelatour
2 ай бұрын
I’m assuming that, by the “very wealthy”, you don’t mean a middle class person with a fixed income whose house is technically worth a million quid on paper if they sold up and moved into a council flat. The “very wealthy” should mean the kind of people rich enough to make it into the Sunday Times Rich List (which currently ranks people with a minimum net worth of £350 million). There are various problems with trying to extract more money from the Rich List types. They can be very flexible about how they distribute their wealth between shares, investments, dividends and salaries, and their creative tax advisors are much better paid than the officials at HMRC. They are more likely to have multiple passports, and are more likely to simply leave the country if tax rates get too high. Personally, I’d rather we focus on how to raise the earning capacity of the median citizen, rather than how to reduce that of the Rich List types.
@kakprat
2 ай бұрын
No one should be suprised about this.
@blaircorral8158
2 ай бұрын
The Tory’s should promise to reverse Brexit! As a remain voter I still feel completely ignored 😢What have they got to lose now!
@BrianMartin-ph7pt
2 ай бұрын
Or, any not liking the result of democracy can f*ck off to an EU "Member State" and never come back to the UK..
@bottleneck4593
2 ай бұрын
Why would any sane person want to reverse Brexit. Do you bother to follow the trade figures. On every meaningful yardstick the UK is ahead of the competition. Why would we want to go backwards? If we had been allowed to have a stronger Brexit we would now be even further ahead of the competition. No other country in history has our ability to think. We don’t need or want the restrictions of EU membership. Almost every major invention came from these shores. And still does. Why are people like you so weak and negative?
@BrianMartin-ph7pt
2 ай бұрын
How about you just leave for an EU "Member State"?
@lizdocherty3067
2 ай бұрын
Maybe people are beginning to realise that it's once a liar always a liar, especially when they have proven it time and time again.
@TheBonsaiGarden
2 ай бұрын
The £2000 is less than half of my mortgage increase as a direct result of Liz Truss’s irresponsible loony “fiscal event” and subsequent mortgage rate hikes.
@CammieRacing
2 ай бұрын
10 years ago that was 4 months rent, now it's less than 2.
@anllpp
2 ай бұрын
❤ they need to be sent a message and all politicians too. The people have had enough of the status quo
@TFx2TV
2 ай бұрын
lying politicians and lying media. A system of liars stacked against us
@anthonyferris8912
2 ай бұрын
There’s a saying that ‘political parties lose elections rather than win them’ and I suspect this is very much case this time. Most of Europe is turning right wing and given the UK and the continent share many of the same problems, I doubt the UK has found its inner Socialism, but rather many voters are just fed up with the Tories not being what they would regard as tories.
@georgesdelatour
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. I also think people’s preferences probably don’t map well onto the political parties we currently have. For instance, many of the Red Wall Conservative voters of 2019 wanted social conservatism plus a version of left wing “old Labour” economics. The only political party offering that combination is the SDP, and they’re nowhere. Even Reform aren’t that. Farage’s economic instincts are Thatcherite.
@johnlachucik9535
2 ай бұрын
You have to call out lies otherwise they get worse. Look at America
@monkeyboy8424
2 ай бұрын
It's my experience that Rishi Sunak is a liar and cannot be trusted about; "Government integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level", 25/10/22 outside number 10.
@stuartwilson3753
2 ай бұрын
My hopes were , the boats stopped entirely. Didn't happen, so now voting reform.
@mikaham681
2 ай бұрын
The Tories, thanks to Boris, were given a huge huge mandate at the last election, and still many Tories thought they knew better than the public. Many Tories refused to get on board with Brexit and this eventually undermined Boris. Boris also contributed to his own demise, but 30-60% of Tories, did not support him properly. The Tories are now about to reap what they have sowed. Of course they will deny responsibility, because they are never wrong, and their own personal contribution, is pure and honest. I call BS to that! The Tories failed to support the party line (ie. Brexit) when they needed to be aligned. Democracy is wonderful for a Nation, but for Business, Armies and the internals of a political party, democracy is the path to doom.
@tarikakidil1816
2 ай бұрын
If you don’t want to be labeled a liar… don’t lie! It’s that easy
@Rog3rY
2 ай бұрын
Sorry Freddy its keir’s fault sunak is lying!? What happened to sunak bringing integrity ‘back’
@chatbury
2 ай бұрын
Rishi Sunak has 12millions pounds worth of property - how can someone so out of touch with the common people of this country be in such power. Its time to put a stop to this rich boys club and vote them out..
@michaelellis7326
2 ай бұрын
So vote REFORM !!!
@sueo7834
2 ай бұрын
Reform U.K. all the way! Nigel Farage for PM...The man who says it the way it is!! 🧐😃
@ttt2080
2 ай бұрын
The lowest percentage of the vote that the Tories have ever got in a UK General Election was 30.7% in 1997. The lowest they have ever got in an election that they ended up in government was 36.1% in 2010. They have not been near either one of those numbers for months.
@deklane3139
2 ай бұрын
My worry is that Labour will have an even more lax attitude towards the influx of foreign nationals.
@villageintheshire
2 ай бұрын
As a conservative, I have only voted Tory once about 20 years ago.
@johnburrows3385
2 ай бұрын
Not Right Wing enough for you ?
@villageintheshire
2 ай бұрын
@@johnburrows3385 since when have the Tories been right wing?
@1984Scholsey
2 ай бұрын
@@johnburrows3385what is right wing ?
@TheSuperPsychoKiller
2 ай бұрын
Conservatives 20 years ago isn’t the same Conservatives now. I forgive you.
@68arclight
2 ай бұрын
Funny how one of the protagonists of the failed Brexit policy is so popular. Surely, people can see through his flimflammery.
@oitoitoi1
2 ай бұрын
he's not that popular, just the media gives him a ridiculous amount of coverage with 0 scrutiny. The lib dems and greens are far, far more successful electorally.
@harveybrown37
2 ай бұрын
Murdoch's Minions here still backing the Kleptomaniacal Gangsters in Suits Tory Party. 😂
@angloart8410
2 ай бұрын
Why is it unhelpful to accuse a liar of lying?
@mikelong5207
2 ай бұрын
The tories have been a shower of excrement and labour are completely insane! What a lovely prospect!
@jonnobloggs8642
2 ай бұрын
Show Me the nearest madhouse .I'm backing Starmer The Liar Detector !
@michaelellis7326
2 ай бұрын
Vote REFORM !!!
@mikelong5207
2 ай бұрын
@@jonnobloggs8642 Hope your not a straight white male, labour have gone full on man hating woke!
@keeshond8
2 ай бұрын
Kate McCann is thoroughly sanctimonious over Starmer calling out the PM for lying. The Conservatives have been provoking nor only the opposition but the entire nation and Sunak deserves everything he’s got coming to him if this poll is within a point or two of being accurate.
@bottleneck4593
2 ай бұрын
In a previous generation lying was unacceptable. Society didn’t tolerate it. My grandmother would have stood me in the corner for a hour if I lied. Politicians resigned giving up their seat if found lying.
@pete__wild
2 ай бұрын
Filthy tories - done mind the fact you’ve lied but don’t like being called liars
@1dkappe
2 ай бұрын
Oh the irony of Unherd critiquing Labour and the Conservatives.
@johnbennett9630
2 ай бұрын
so calling someone a liar is so much worse than being an actual liar - please explain.
@Newsopathy-gf2ug
2 ай бұрын
'The whole country is feeling grubby about this', please speak for yourself!
@edmurth
2 ай бұрын
Isn’t funny how the times thinks it’s bad to call out Tory lies, journalists are meant to search for the truth not pander to favourite politicians. You hold just as much responsibility for our democratic decline as the politicians.
@wakeupuk3860
2 ай бұрын
FANTASTIC !! - wonderful news that shows the British are fed up with having migrant leaders who as in London, Scotland and Wales got their position due to 'diversity' reasons as oppose being true and worthy leaders which Sunak in ALL ways has proven he certainly is not. Maybe as with so many countries in the world, especially in those countries these 'numbskulls' came from, NO WAY would the people of those countries choose a non-indigenous person to be their PM, in certain countries such as Japan, it is against the law. Truly hope UK citizens have learnt the lesson of doing so and we go back to voting in a 'leader' who represents, believes and wants to promote the wishes of the majority indigenous peoples of our nation.
@nicks4934
2 ай бұрын
Johnson is the worst migrant leader yes.
@wakeupuk3860
2 ай бұрын
He chose not to stay for the D-Day ceremony, in all ways, proves everything I wrote.
@ashleyhyne7027
2 ай бұрын
In February the Labour party romped home in Kingswood and Wellingborough. They had been in opposition for 14 years by that point. 83% of the electorate in both constituencies trusted the Labour Party so much with public finances, and security that they did NOT vote for them. At Rochdale it was even worse, 93% did not vote for Labour. These are devastating figures for a party supposedly representing the public favour currently.
@andrealester4471
2 ай бұрын
Why is she covering up the fact that the calculation of £2000 was independently done and signed off by the treasury
@tonyjeevar6565
2 ай бұрын
This election will be remembered as the one where all Parties agreed to never mention Bre... no. Even I can't do it. The elephant in every room.
@byrnemeister2008
2 ай бұрын
Highest tax take in 70 years under this government. A record high. Surely this should be the main talking point.
@karlosthejackel69
2 ай бұрын
This ‘debate’ was a master class in avoiding the elephant in the room
@jareth0205
2 ай бұрын
Amazing that Tories have been found out, and they have found several commentators that can criticise Labour for pointing this out. It's Labour's fault apparently that people are losing faith, not the conservative fabrications
@jamesgriffithsmusic
2 ай бұрын
Wrong! The lie wasn't to do with the figures, it was the claim they were independently arrived at. That claim has NOT been used before.
@davidcoleman3661
2 ай бұрын
You have to fight fire with fire. Yes don’t descend to gutter politics. But lies have to be nailed. “A lie can travel half way round the world while the truth is putting on its shoes”. (Mark Twain).
@GaryFuller
2 ай бұрын
The difference here is that the Tories are attributing their claims to an independent assessment by the Treasury. The figures, and their accuracy, are actually irrelevant.
@rossilavery
2 ай бұрын
Excusing Tory lies while passing the blame to Labour for pointing it out is next level pathetic. It has always been the case that Labour are held to a higher moral standard while Tories get away with everything but I have never seen it as blatant as from this smug little toff. You want politicians to stop point out other politicians lies? Start punishing the liars!
@ianmorgan2789
2 ай бұрын
It's not just the claim it is claiming that the figures were claimed to be from official sources.
@rmeinen44
2 ай бұрын
Give your collegue some food so he stops chewing his pen. My daughter tries that now as well. Disgusting.
@mrphgil974
2 ай бұрын
I’m impressed about how poorly you address the fact that Sunak claimed they were official figures. Not party ones. Everyone knows the party ones are bs, but he claimed (wilfully lied) it was a non partisan conclusion.
@mrdaveythebaby
2 ай бұрын
The problem isn't the number. It's the claim that this is Treasury analysis.
@nickdoughty518
2 ай бұрын
The UK hasn't had a Current Account Surplus in a single year since 1983. Why not start there? We've lived beyond our means for 31 years.
@micksmithson6724
2 ай бұрын
Freddie, So Sunak lies and Starmer is to blame for calling Sunak out on this? Unbelievable. You are part of the problem. I think this was the moment when Sunak showed his lack of integrity and it has done immense damage to the Tories.
@petermizon4344
2 ай бұрын
THE TORIES ARE SO SICK THEY LOST A 80 SEAT MAJORITY, AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP ON THE GRAVY TRAIN
@TheSuperPsychoKiller
2 ай бұрын
British people deserve better. It is the politician’s responsibility to give accurate details and counter claims. No details and constant lying is a turn off. Pick your politician like you’re picking your partner.
@zombiehaiku7527
2 ай бұрын
Maybe they should try telling more provable lies?
@fang_xianfu
2 ай бұрын
The lie wasn't the number, it was saying that it was an independent Treasury figure when it was politicially-motivated with input from a political appointee.
@IansOddInterests
2 ай бұрын
It’s time for the 2 party system to change… hopefully Reform may change politics forever in U.K. … roll on 4th July and get these treacherous folks out of parliament
@sdwone
2 ай бұрын
At this point, the Tories are utterly irrelevant... The only valid questions that remain are... How well will Reform do on one hand? But the biggest one and most concerning question is... What does Keir Starmer actually stand for?! This cold, calculating, non-charismatic, boring, lawyer type... Who plays the game FAR too cautiously... And flip-flops every chance he gets! So long as it furthers his ambitions... What does he actually stand for!?
@robred19
2 ай бұрын
The Tories lied - and the LP has the receipt.... Now the Tories face the rightful wrath.
@grahamturner1290
2 ай бұрын
That's 19% too much.
@garyturner5739
2 ай бұрын
Well Sunak's attack on Tuesday nights debate worked with latest poll showing that the Tories are now 19% and Labour are at 40% ahead while Reform who are now just behind on 17% in the polls.
@marksimons8861
2 ай бұрын
The Tories got Boris Johnson to deliver the Brexit turkey. Nothing promised has been delivered. It's amazing they can still find 1 in 5 people prepared to vote for them, especially a party that promotes itself as a supporter of business.
@chriswills9437
2 ай бұрын
The point is Sunak claimed the GBP 2000 was calculated by independent civil servants. It wasn´t end of story and lie.
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