im in this very room writing this comment, glorious studio 8H, the most famous studio in the world. an honor and a pleasure to have worked in such a legendary space. Toscanini had his own private elevator and i know where u can still see one of the doors. Such history...
@faton4paws
16 жыл бұрын
Fabulous. Toscanini and Beethoven - who could ask for more? Wonderful job; thank you so much for uploading this.
@argo1argo1
16 жыл бұрын
Bravo abbjorko! This is our heritage and culture. We must not only preserve it but flaunt it as well. Grazzie.
@YTM021807
14 жыл бұрын
Initially (many many years) ago I thought that it was too fast or hectic. Gradually I changed my evaluation. Now it is "supremely incandescent", awesome, subtle, refined etc....
@aleaquatarkus
13 жыл бұрын
forza di spirito che trasmette a tutta l'orchestra
@paulostroff99
13 жыл бұрын
In a word.Awesome. TY abbjorko for posting this gem.of a performance.
@olhole
13 жыл бұрын
Listen to how quiet the audience is at 1:20 just before the movement begins. Now that, was back when people showed some class. Thanks for the videos, by the way.
@Jairgifr
13 жыл бұрын
Impresionanate!!!! esto es historia!!!!! jamas pense ver al gran Toscanini (dicen... y parece verdad), el ritmo que le impone es único!!! es mas rápida pero contundente, sin duda a muchos no les gustará, pero esto es "interpretado por....." a mi me impreionó su concepción genial!!!! lo que si es cierto es que es muy valioso este documento.. Gracias!!!!
@Vladislaw81
14 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Toscanini! I LOVE his interpretations of Brahms' 2nd concerto, and Beethoven's 9th. And many more. I'm very impressed with his interpretations, because it has a lot of energy in it. And in music energy is everything. Nothing impresses and uplifts me so much than Toscanini's interpretations. Especially his violins. I don't know what did he do to make them sound so expressively, but this is it. I feel it even listening to bad mp3. THE GENIUS NO. 1 IN MUSIC!
@uhartchristian
14 жыл бұрын
The phrasings with Toscanini are great. What a big understanding of the text. The accents come exactly at the best moment and he gives it a dancing aspect with this phrasing. Which is contrary to the so heavy heavy brutal interpretations you can hear with less good musicians....
@themochico90
12 жыл бұрын
che bei regali questi video del Maestro, un grazie di tutto cuore!:)
@GarisMom
13 жыл бұрын
@WimGrundy What Wim said! KZitem is a truly remarkable medium! And a very special thank you to people like abbjorko for posting it and sharing with the rest of us!
@alucardio
16 жыл бұрын
Gods bless youtube for this
@conchita1944
11 жыл бұрын
Ver dirigir éste gran maestro de la música es un privilegio..
@Jairgifr
13 жыл бұрын
Impresionanate!!!! esto es historia!!!!!
@antocama
14 жыл бұрын
grazie maestro
@JulietteTV1970
13 жыл бұрын
Its fun to compare performances by different composers. Each brings out different aspects of the music. For me, Toscanini's interpretations of the Beethoven symphonies have the most forward drive, muscle, and clarity. Even with the antiquated sound, T. rules!
@SDGRTX1455
17 жыл бұрын
omg this video is legendary thank you to post this beautifull piece of master works
@marian444
12 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!!
@canman5060
16 жыл бұрын
Toscanini is best known for his temper, strictness, and the breaking of numerous watches while rehearzing !
@65attila
14 жыл бұрын
@kaleowao Bravo - I wish any network would do so- so many channels now and probably less % of Classical Music on TV. Great perfomance by the Meastro.
@judgebur
16 жыл бұрын
I believe Toscanini had the best interpretations of Beethoven's 9th! Driving rhythm, crisp attacks, great overarching swelling crescendos for drama!
@lykigos
16 жыл бұрын
"Classical" means perfect considering it at all times."Romantic classic music" differs by showing more passion, it has more dramatic colors.Classical targets to the perfect harmony.If someone asked what is the best the answer would be "Beethoven who is both classical and romantic".
@WimGrundy
13 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Windows and KZitem, we can listen to several versions of the same work in real/staggered time to get the nuances, phrasings, etc of each conductor and his orchestra. Simply open several windows and play your favorites simultaneously, stopping and starting the pieces at will. Fascinating studies! ALL HAIL KZitem! Grandest medium since Gutenberg's!!
@samsaluni
12 жыл бұрын
If music started in Heaven! this must be just a bit of it! to put it quite plainly very beautiful/refreshing to the soul/mind! thank you to the gifted from above!
@canman5060
16 жыл бұрын
Toscanini is best known for his temper, strictness and breaking of numerous watches while rehearzing !
@TheJedgeworth
11 жыл бұрын
I have an original of Toscanni performing the Ninth.In the liner notes, (oh, how I miss LP's) is the story of Beethoven attending a Toscanni performance shortly before he died.He was deaf, and felt so insecure that he directed his help mate to face his wheelchair away from the crowd. He wanted no more critics. At the triumphant end, his man turned him towards the audience, so he could see the miraclous ovation.Tears, of course. BTW, his drunk father continually him the ears. Makes a person deaf.
@leejacobson6078
7 жыл бұрын
Haha. Beethoven died in 1827. Toscanni was born in 1867. Unlikely Beethoven heard T conduct.
@sas147741
13 жыл бұрын
The piece heard a the beginning is the Prelude for the Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg by Wagner.
@hjbpnb
13 жыл бұрын
@kaleowao I totally agree, however I would add: ANY network, not just NBC ...
@TheseusTex
12 жыл бұрын
@SteveBell1942 what a great quote. i love it.
@roman14032
12 жыл бұрын
the baddest bad ass of all bad asses, no one EVER came close again. cantelli might of
@abbjorko
17 жыл бұрын
I got this document and I thought that it was a great idea to put that on youtube.Of course this will never be seen"as much as"any britney spears'song or any avril lavigne's ones..I'm not criticiting anyone and not judging anyone's musical taste or preferences.I'm just happy to notice how few interested people could be so smart and sensible to appreciate this important"uploading"I did..thanks all of you,even few,but important few..VIVA la musica,Viva l'Italia!VIVA BEETHOVEN
@Nachtmarchen
16 жыл бұрын
I might have exaggerated - but to say Mozart only showed the happy and optimistic parts of life is simply wrong, even in his major key symphonies and virtually all of his operas there's a deep, underlying sense of earnestness, that of deep understanding of the human condition, I'm very much with the views of maestro Karl Böhm here. Beethoven was the eternally youthful, the passionate, Mozart distant observer, never sentimental, but able to put all human emotions in to music perfectly. T-up btw.
@roman14032
12 жыл бұрын
if Beethoven ever meet Toscanini, HE probibily would have siad "holy fuck! that guy kicks ass"
@bobbygnosis
14 жыл бұрын
I love the Chinese captions. I love the music more. Good old Ludwig Van. This isn't the be-all end-all of music, but I do think people would do well to play this a little more and let it take them to where old Ludwig Van was trying to go. Incidentally - I love pre-1950's interpretations of classical music. This is freaking sweet. Peace, love and understanding.
@LinTzuYoung
14 жыл бұрын
讚!還有繁中字幕,真是內行啊!
@lemonite1
16 жыл бұрын
thanx platypus, of all the genres of music i've been into, classical is the hardest to differentiate between the artists. not because it all sounds the same, quite the opposite. it is the most rich, and deep in history, making it intimidating. btw, what is the difference between Classic period and Romantic period?
@bobbygnosis
14 жыл бұрын
@Doolsey It's good. I like it. I own what I think is a better interpretation of this same piece, but that's the only music I like. Music isn't the only thing I like. I also like kitties, puppies, sunsets and rainbows. This music happens to be an ode to such things. I'm happy to listen to this and hang out with friends whether or anyone thinks this is better or worse than Vivaldi, Bach or 2pac. Peace, love and understanding.
@Doolsey
14 жыл бұрын
@bobbygnosis No offense, but I think it is the be-all end-all of music. What is, in your opinion?
@MrApples6
13 жыл бұрын
My god, what TV could have been....
@LazyBastard69
14 жыл бұрын
@divine604 Yes!!! Where is it? I liked the streamlined aproach Karajan had.
@yanpan16
16 жыл бұрын
apparently its more like an hour that they stand there. lol! that would suck for them, yes - but its worth it to play beethoven's 9th!
@kumfoipapracha5251
11 жыл бұрын
I share this feeling. The phrazing feel as sharp as a knife, there is too much drive, as if the music is being pushed. Yet I prefer this on Furtwangler
@TheLeon96Ahuel
13 жыл бұрын
when is that this video was filmed ?
@wendyloulabelle
16 жыл бұрын
Try making a playlist. Click "favorites" and take it from there.
@Nachtmarchen
16 жыл бұрын
Mozart wasn't nearly as sentimental as Beethoven and I already said that I admire the purity of emotion in Beethoven's music, and indeed there is a great difference between the crushing, hopeless pain and anger of Beethoven and the lascivious anguish and passion as found in nearly all of Mozart's minor key works/movements. However, even Beethoven though the Requiem (where Mozart himself didn't write a single movement in the major key) fearsome.
@SteveBell1942
14 жыл бұрын
@billyguns2 Ants only attack elephants when they are dead.
@jhb134
12 жыл бұрын
@kaleowao - Well, it's not NBC that could bring-BACK the great musicians of former days ... but we understand that the network/people ... and the latter, of others (of recording performances, studio dates, etc.) COULD record such matters, in the past. IN other words, the days of Toscanini, Furtwangler, Monteux, Reiner and others are gone, in physical presences, but their legacies are INTACT, as they should be - OK?
@owluck
15 жыл бұрын
Caligula138, I didn't say Beethoven was black. I said his mother was of black african descent. I suspect you didn't make good grades in geography or history. Have you ever heard of the invasion of the Moors? BTW, Italians with the natural darkness or olive complexions have african roots. They were also invaded. So yes, maybe even Toscaninni!! I visit this site to hear the music. I did not intend to exchange barbs. I just couldn't let nipster 88 get away with his/her ignorant statement.
@abbjorko
16 жыл бұрын
Graz(z)ie to you! I watched your videos about take-off and landing in "giubiliana"... did you know that I'm from Sicily??? I'm happy to see that we are sort of "neighbors"! Enjoy and good luck for your airplane.. ciao!
@nakamichiguy
15 жыл бұрын
Imagine an era when network television would put classical arts over their air. Imagine that this is the same network that makes money with 'Biggest Loser' and 'Jay Leno'.
@ikmarchini
15 жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with the narrow camera angle. The strings seem to be 14-12-10-8-6, or 50 total and the piece calls for a fixed 23 winds and percussion. 73 total is a good sized orchestra but not huge. Today purists use less strings. The big sound is because Toscanini made everybody play out and today they hide.
@TheseusTex
12 жыл бұрын
So many of these great old conducting videos have the same flaw and I wonder why no one fixes it: the sound is ahead of the video. It looks and sounds as if the orchestra is playing ahead of his beat, which in turn makes it appear that he is irrelevant and just dancing to the music (obviously not the case). Why doesn't someone re-sync this?
@TheLeon96Ahuel
13 жыл бұрын
What good quality picture ! it's a HD video ! haha, it's a joke. but I love this music. :D
@drfarrin
14 жыл бұрын
@euch27 its an unfortunate side effect of the recording processes and qualities of the time, however, go read the score, there is no "epic" fail here.
@lemonite1
16 жыл бұрын
im new to classical and i love it, 'specially Beethoven. am i an ignorant dweeb for this? are there better?
@tmc359
13 жыл бұрын
My, the tempi is fast. Esp the catalysm at the 7:10 mark or so, that's the fastest ive ever heard it.
@mujaku
14 жыл бұрын
Ya just have to love that D minor getting its ass kicked by B flat major!
@mauricebear6238
15 жыл бұрын
It would seem Sir that my comment has not gone down well. All I am saying is that empathy exists between people of a similar background. So I contend that it follows that German conductor would have that empathy with a German composer. Anyway what ever happened to free speech? Am I not allowed to say what I wish without being vilified?
@Nachtmarchen
16 жыл бұрын
I disagree, late Mozart overshadows Beethoven, not just in mere quantity, but also quality, unlike Beethoven Mozart never sacrificed form in favor of expression, his late works are just as dramatic and emotionally charged as those of Beethoven while being a lot more subtle, perfect and well-balanced. It takes time to appreciate, but there is a reason why all important composers recognized Mozart as the non-plus-ultra of their craft - from Brahms to Tchaikovsky, from Chopin to Wagner.
@auhosj877
15 жыл бұрын
is it just me, or is this a small orchestra?
@owluck
15 жыл бұрын
Caligula 138 Like your namesake, you are insane. Spell Check is all I have to say to you! What are the contents of your IEP?
@Doolsey
14 жыл бұрын
@jsavino96 I know how he feels. I direct community theater plays. One sweats bullets.
@YTM021807
14 жыл бұрын
@HorusHeresy1982 The original recording sounds much better. ( TESTAMENT DVDs)
@nico22059
16 жыл бұрын
and Chopin?? :P
@Artaxbozzim
13 жыл бұрын
Interpretazione...come dire.....sanguigna!
@ayodelesirjet40
11 жыл бұрын
Have to agree on this recording--this would have been too martial for Mussolini. He was not the singers' friend, either,apparently. Give me Beecham or Walters, there is such a thing as taste.
@yanpan16
16 жыл бұрын
thats the way to say it! lol
@larryh77
16 жыл бұрын
It's too long! But very good.
@h4ejs
12 жыл бұрын
This is almost what Beethoven must have heard. (7:33 XD)
@Pedsonc01
16 жыл бұрын
I would stand for 5 hours if it meant a chance to perform under the baton of Toscanini.
@samarazoghaib9244
12 жыл бұрын
:)
@freshhh1994
17 жыл бұрын
Life is unfair. :(
@Ignorantissimus
11 жыл бұрын
You're perfectly right: it is sad to be said, but Toscanini was not the right conductor for German music, his genre was rather Italian oomp-oomp-oomp-pa-pah. His success in America derives specifically from the legend, he was a (supposed ...) anti-fascist.
@sab3156
15 жыл бұрын
Like I said, educate yourself on what pianism entails. If you still think Yundi Li and Lang Lang are representatives of the school of musical brilliance, then I suggest you pick a different field to pass opinions about. Perhaps rap and hip-hop are more closely related to your hidden forte of analysis.
@jdmmxbth
16 жыл бұрын
Is Toscanini rly famous? He looks a little like Einstein XD. The way that the pronoucer say ludwig just makes me laugh "loodviig"-lol.
@SpottyDorsord
15 жыл бұрын
"Creator" "Blacks" "Gayz". Your favourite words. Maybe you're a big, black, gay god? ooooooooooohhhhh.
@PlatypusofCalifornia
16 жыл бұрын
I dont get how this guy could conduct with that enourmous baton, its more suited for homicide than conducting in my hands lol. Musical homicide of course. I feel sorry for toscanini, he had scratchy woodwinds. I would have to say again I prefer karajan on this symphony.
@SpottyDorsord
15 жыл бұрын
You COULD care less? Great, so I guess you care more?
@theskymovessideways1
11 жыл бұрын
Gaahhhh strong statements, c'mon we like classical music we're more educated than the dummies listening to little wayne
@mauricebear6238
15 жыл бұрын
Yeah it takes a German to conduct a German work Fact
@SpottyDorsord
15 жыл бұрын
"widely known secret"? Sounds more like a little known lie, which would at least make sense. "...not responsible for the color of their skin", as if there is something wrong with any colour anyway....
@PlatypusofCalifornia
16 жыл бұрын
Of the classical period, beethoven was the best :). Mozart is overrated imo. From the early classical period, try bach. From the romanticist period (I would have to say my favorite), there are the two infamous russians tchikosvsky and korsakoff, and then there is berlioz with his symphonie fantastique, and listz and his impossibly hard piano pieces. Don't worry you arent a noob :).
@seemagics
13 жыл бұрын
Comments here makes me dumbfounded. Little insignificant Bacterias telling God how they are disgruntled about the shapes of the continents and the oceans.
@lykigos
16 жыл бұрын
In order to play beethoven you must be equall to beethoven not just musically which is a tachnical matter but ethically which is the PURE MUSIC.All the musicians in the last 100 years have just quick hands, their music is zero!!! All these "perfect musicians" have destroyed classical music.A mediocre pianist of your neighbourhood have a thousand times more passion than these plastic hearted robots.
@owluck
15 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to respond to your bigotry with insults regarding your disrespect for the Creator, or your reference to sexual preferences. Get a grip! You're sinking intellectually. Oooooooooooohhhhhh!
@owluck
15 жыл бұрын
Dear me, SpottyDorsord, I could care less what it sounds like to you. Do the research and get back to me!! As for something being wrong with skin color; I don't believe I implied that there was. To do that would be an insult to the Creator.
@edraith
15 жыл бұрын
Mozart overrated?
@gzaenker
15 жыл бұрын
ignorance, fear, hatred, racism ....
@piesseesse
11 жыл бұрын
Sir, you don't know what you say, and about musical affairs you seem to be out of head. You don't know what is the classical music.
@spevoljub
12 жыл бұрын
I don't feel Beethoven. To much Toscanini.
@edraith
15 жыл бұрын
You are saying things that are stupid and pointless, man...
@GustavoSotomayorFonzalida
12 жыл бұрын
Bad conductor...
@Caligula138
15 жыл бұрын
Beethoven was black!!? Ha HA HA!!!! what a joke... yes and Toscanini is Half Japanese...
@spacebln
12 жыл бұрын
This is terrible......no music.....no feelings.....only rhythmic precision.......typical Toscanini....overrated as always.......I once wanted to buy a Toscanini box to get to know him better...."We dont have such a box" the dealer said in Berlins biggest classical music store... "we only sell good music"......how true.....Toscanini is better in operas
@canalesworks1247
7 жыл бұрын
This is a disgraceful butchering of Beethoven. Rather than a "come scritto" interpretation Toscanini rushes rhythms so that bars collide into each other, thus choking the line of the music. I can think of no more overrated conductor from the period than Toscanini. This ineptitude is why he tried to destroy Mahler when the great composer had the New York Phil. This is why Toscanini "boycotted" Furtwangler thus robbing the greatest of all German conductors of a post in the United States. This second tier hack has been falsely celebrated for far too long. If I were in the hall i would have thrown rotten tomatoes at him.
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