Well folks I would have not believed unless I test drove one, and bought one. I have a 2024 gmc with the 2.7 and I absolutely love it. All I ask is drive one b4 ya belittle it.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
2 ай бұрын
45k miles now and no issues at all. Very comfortable to drive.
@peterdinotte8577
Ай бұрын
I have a 2022 Silverado 4 cylinder I love it it does everything I needed to do
@joshtaylor1416
14 күн бұрын
I have. Had one, then it burned oil, then I switched back to v8 naturally aspirated engine.
@ronnierountree4024
13 күн бұрын
@joshtaylor1416 just like life some people have good others suck balls
@splatmatt
Күн бұрын
@buildsomethingstupid1736 did you follow the trailer break-in per the manual? Curious because I have a'24 with the turbomax and want to get towing our 5,000lb airstream.
@ericescalante8544
Жыл бұрын
Hardest part is getting used to the sound of a four-cylinder in your truck ! Lol but I love mine
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
exactly
@AC-ir3od
Жыл бұрын
That was another thing that tripped me out. It sounds like a civic 🤣😂, I will definitely consider purchasing one.
@checo8187
Жыл бұрын
My brother has the 22 and he had the same comment lol, he ended up putting a cold air intake and exhaust to give it a deeper sound.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Checo818 it sounds weird when towing up a hill, kind of tractorish
@joalyincontroly4379
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 That's what I thought, seems like even just idling with the hood open it kinda has a clackity diesel sound. I'm just basing that from videos so far, but I ordered a Colorado ZR2 with this engine and I'm excited to feel 430 pounds of torque in the midsize package.
@Service-IrrigationTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2023 trail boss z71 2.7L turbo LT, 1100 miles now, still not broke in yet, this is my work truck, I am supper impressed with this motor, I am a V8 man old school, I am caring about 3800 lbs in the back of this truck, it has dropped about 2" but cannot tell there is anything back there, this is just like and they designed it this way to be just like a diesel engine, so much torque in this engine, my 6.0 and my 5.3 don`t even compare to this, it's early but I am very very pleased, not going to mention any MPG yet just because the vehicle is to new at this time, thanks and good luck.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I like mine, 17k so far
@panchovia
4 ай бұрын
Lmao 😂
@majalt491
3 ай бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 what are you at nowadays? also what gas mileage do you get when not towing vs when you are towing?
@saladfingers6710
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm picking up my 23 Silver tomorrow! You made me have some peace buying the 2.7.. Thank you!
@drodNY
Жыл бұрын
great video.. the 2.7 turbo made me a believer. I do not miss my GMC Sierra 1500 Denali 6.2 thirsty V8 for this little turbo version. I have not looked back. no issues towing my 23 ft pontoon and tandem trailer to/from the lake which it about an hour away on super hilly roads. Truck is a beast and a keeper.
@Hector.Amezquita
3 ай бұрын
How is it going a year later?
@johnlynch5221
Жыл бұрын
I also have a Silverado with a 4.8L. I tow a 3600 lb. travel trailer with it. These four bangers show promise. I just hope it has longevity.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
That's close to the boat weight I accidentally spun the tires with
@johnlynch5221
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 That's crazy! But I like it.
@zane9419
Жыл бұрын
This turbo is amazing! It’s powerful and it will do everything you need in a 1.5 ton! The Custom is king. Chevy got it right,
@dawsongranger4940
Жыл бұрын
I am super excited that this engine is in the 2023 colorado. Going to be a phenomenal midsize truck for towing
@dalemorgan7612
Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 sierra elevation with this motor and so far it's been great 👍
@AC-ir3od
Жыл бұрын
I rented a 4cyl Silverado and it screwed up my whole thinking process about a "truck". I was very impressed on power and how fuel efficient it was when cruising on the highway.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
When I was looking, this loaded silverado was 2k cheaper than the cloth f150 I was planning to buy and I thought "maybe I'll go check it out before I buy the ford". I saw on the sticker it was a 2.7l and I assumed it was a v6 like the ford (cause 2.7 is huge for a 4cyl). Test drove it and thought it drives good, rated for 9600 lbs, and 2k cheaper and loaded. I'll just buy this, this will work for me and save me some money. Didn't figure out it was a 4 banger until a week later
@AC-ir3od
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 🤣😂 it's trippy
@marlonandrade8006
3 ай бұрын
The way you talked about trading in and losing money made me serious about your test vid. Truly amazing video mate
@robd380
Жыл бұрын
I ditched the v8 in the summer of 2019 for the 2.7 Chevy RST 4x4 and have no regrets. In fact I love the engine and when its time for a trade in I will get the same unless GM comes out with a inline six version of this gasoline engine.
@tedtolentino4955
Жыл бұрын
Impressive. For most of us who don't tow regularly or that much (9k lbs), this truck makes sense. Durability will have to be reviewed after this engine has been in the field for a couple of more years, but I anticipate it will prove to be such a durable engine. I only wish that GM had a 6-speed manual trans available still as an option on its light duty trucks.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I really miss manual transmission options! I have driven quite a few new manuals though and they don't have the same feel as the old ones. They are all dual mass flywheels now and they just don't feel like the old ones
@freebehindbars8654
Жыл бұрын
Carbon buildup on this design has been an issue, at lower power outputs. Idea like to see those valves.
@Peaches-N-Mango
Жыл бұрын
@@freebehindbars8654 absolutely, that's one of the biggest head scratchers about this engine. GDI has been around for a while and most manufacturers have gone to dual injection, like Toyota's D4S system. This is such a new design, why didn't GM do the same?
@patricktimpe7641
Жыл бұрын
These new vehicle performance tests are nice and all however I would like to see how this engine endures after years of towing vs a V8.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Me too
@bikdav
Жыл бұрын
@@Bangkok-ik1fpMileage durability is what worries me also.
@ttime411bmw
Жыл бұрын
Anyone buying this isn’t doing towing regularly or shouldn’t be at least, I’d guess this is for the occasional towing
@ericj810
Жыл бұрын
Buddy has 114k on his. Pulls 7200lbs trailer most of those miles. Its 2021 2.7. It still has the same amount of power, just regular maintenance. He says he loves it. Another person I know has 80k on his pulls 7600lbs around same thing just regular oil change and thats bout it. Pulls strong. Its like a diesel gas hybrid.
@mikecastleberry9671
Жыл бұрын
Yea😮
@JB-ro3sz
Жыл бұрын
430 ft-lbs of torque is massive and 2.7l is a big 4-cylinder. it amazes me how good these small turbocharged engines have become, look at the ford EcoBoost, its a monster for a v6
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The 3.5l ecoboost is ridiculously quick with a trailer on the back. I had a 17 ecoboost
@mikecastleberry9671
Жыл бұрын
Pos fords
@DillonPrecisionFan
Жыл бұрын
I saw an interview with the engine lead on another youtube channel the other day. Diesel tech in this engine, diesel style 3 layer metal rod bearings, and top ring groove is steel (solid steel with cast aluminum piston formed around it). Sodium filled exhaust valves (that used to be race car stuff) and electric water pump, so you can keep flowing large amounts of coolant even if the engine is near idle after a hard pull....the engineer said turbo diesel like performance, and he is exactly right...make torque down low. I am impressed with what they have done.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I like it, just towed at max capacity again today and as always was impressed
@ericj810
Жыл бұрын
Pulls strong and hard that's for sure!
@Hugh_jasshole1980
Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the longevity of the 5.3
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Don't they have lifter and oil consumption problems
@Hugh_jasshole1980
Жыл бұрын
@Build Something Stupid Evrey chevy I've had will drop half a court between changes...usually because of a rear main leak and lifter noise can be the O-Ring in the oil sump. Never had a 5.3 to drop a lifter or leave me beside the road since 1999. They are 300k mile plus engines if took care of
@gregrowe1168
Жыл бұрын
The pre afm engines were the best. The 4.8 was pretty bulletproof too and had enough power for most people. I’ve got a 2003 with the 4.8 and at 165 k miles, it runs great. Gets decent fuel economy for an older truck, though it’s an ext cab 2wd, probably in the 16-17 mpg range. I tow a small utility trailer with it but it makes little difference in the fuel economy.
@rotelfan2000
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 any 5.3 needs AFM delete from jump street. the engine itself is great, the AFM on top of it has issues (some years worse than others)
@brianhuffman3202
Жыл бұрын
@@gregrowe1168 I've got an 04, 4.8 litre, reg cab 4x4 and at only 65, 18 to 19 mpg isn't too bad. IF they would make a retrofit 6 speed for our older trucks we could have some gain in fuel economy.
@blackericdenice
Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2016 F165 new in 2016. It now has 89,000 miles with both stock turbos. I towed a 96 4x4 Tahoe 5,300 lbs. on a Uhaul trailer 2,000 lbs. it only has 375 lbs-ft torque @ 3,000 rpm. I didn’t have any problems going up hills.
@davidmckibbin4440
19 күн бұрын
the difference is yours is still around, the 2.7 will not be, gm has not built a good 4 cyl. since the 1960s , the chevy two and the pontiac tempest.
@blackericdenice
19 күн бұрын
@@davidmckibbin4440 GM 2.7 is a great engine. They don’t play around with their truck engines
@jakes5530
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Idk why everyone gives this motor such a hard time. Obviously it sounds worse than a V8 but that's not the point. It's totally capable right up to its limit, as your video demonstrates. TFL just did a deep dive into the 2.7 with the chief engineer, it seems like a perfectly reliable choice, especially the 2022+ updated version with the updated 8 speed. Meets the needs for 80-90% of half-ton truck owners, and 99.9% of midsize truck owners.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I love the motor, the only things I don't like about the truck is some of the software concerning the auto climate control and the infotainment center.
@larryj8924
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your real world tow testing, very impressive. Brother tows with 2011 Silverado 5.3 camper approx. 6k loaded. Does ok on reasonable level ground but requires very high rpm on grades yielding 8 -10 mpg (Ca Sierra Nevada Mtn). Great to see new options for most who only tow part time.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The ability of the turbo to give that low end power is amazing. It has very little need to downshift which saves a lot of trans wear. I would bet the 4cyl would hold speed at 3k rpm no problem with 6k lbs.
@TheKingterOFF
Жыл бұрын
Only time will tell with these 2.7s
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yep pretty awesome tech tho
@WesDuncan
Жыл бұрын
They've been out since 2019. I've heard of no major issues. Less issues than their V8 siblings.
@mikecarmean1676
Жыл бұрын
First I want to say, very well done video! Love the editing and your explanations right to the point. On the truck, the more I read about it and the more I hear real world accounts, I am so impressed with it. Seems like a great all-around balanced powertrain. Your highway MPG testing was awesome. As far as durability time will tell but there are some of these with upwards of 150,000 already. Plus I know people are scared of the technology but there are a ton of EcoBoost running around with several hundred plus thousand miles and those are probably even more stressed with dual turbos and more power and they seem fine. My next truck is a Sierra elevation with the 2.7 🙏
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@AKboys-xf8cm
Жыл бұрын
I just got a 2023 Chevy Silverado 1500 custum and it tows pretty good. Really good video though keep up the hard work
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jeffreytalbot3431
Жыл бұрын
The more I see the 2.7L Chevy the moore I like it. 430 lbs of torque is massive and will definitely be enough for a daily driver, Home Depot running, weekend boat trailering. If you have a 15,000 lbs camper you need a 2500. This truck will do everything a weekend warrior would need with some to spare! Down side: I don’t trust GM small engines. Had 2.5L 2010 Equinox that drank a quart of oil every 500 miles. At 80,000 the engine was on its last leg so I traded it in. Not a good experience. Hopefully GM has learned from its mistakes. And I do not like AFM system. Why turn a four banger into a two banger? Complexity for very little gain. Nice video, thank you
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@markswinford4546
Жыл бұрын
This was my exact line of thinking too. I might use my 2.7L to tow a trailer for yard debris or small camper, but the power output suits me fine. And at 57, I dont care if there is a hamster on a wheel powering it, if it does the job.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Mark Swinford in this case a VERY muscular hamster haha
@calebferguson3930
Жыл бұрын
My 2020 5.3 silverado gear hunts terribly only loaded to about 5k lbs. Before I had a 2019 silverado 2.7 I had bought new. My only complaints were the new body style glitches it had. It got great mileage, and it made the same power as the 5.3 trucks I drove while it was in the shop.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the 5.3 I test drove definitely shifted more often, and I'm sure that only gets worse with towing, I think it's the really high torque the 2.7 has. Less need to downshift and it tows more like a diesel truck.
@calebferguson3930
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 it has to be that low end torque the 2.7 has.. I also loved having the 2.7 pulling a hill on the rural interstate at 70mph lugging along and having a 5.3 6 speed beside me that I could hear downshift twice to keep up going up the grade.
@markswinford4546
Жыл бұрын
Superb video of actual towing tests. I like your straight-forward approach to presenting your findings. I purchased a Silverado with the 2.7L a month ago, and don't plan to tow anything close to weighing 9,000 lbs, but it is good to know how the truck would perform. Your video shows this very well. I was told by my sales guy at Chevy, who seems to be very genuine (not a BS artist), that he was sent to Indy to experience towing tests with different engine options for the Silverado, and he was impressed by the near similar performance of the 2.7L vs. the V-8s. As it relates to some comments about the life expectancy of the 2.7L, he mentioned that he was told the 2.7L is only the 2nd engine that GM has tested that they could not yet blow up on a test stand, with 2.5M effective miles on it. Now, to what extent this is true, to what extent GM worked the engine and so forth is open to question. I'm sure to get to 2.5M miles (equivalent on a test stand) the engine had to be well serviced, oil changed etc. And maybe it was never pushed very hard, I don't know how it was really tested (proprietary to GM anyway). But being and Aero Engineer with experience designing aircraft jet engine components, I can say that it doesn't serve much purpose to put an engine on a test stand and baby it. The goal is to find what the weakest link in the chain is. So, I guess time will tell if the 2.7 is a dependable engine, I'm hoping for my sake and others it is.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
A couple people in the comments have mentioned the block was designed similiar to a diesel block.. I like the sound of that! Additionally I can say you almost never see an engine "wear out" it's almost always a support system that fails that causes the engine failure. Like oil leak running the engine dry, coolant leak overheating the engine, etc. So I don't have any reservation about pulling this much power from a 4cyl.
@robd380
Жыл бұрын
They used a tilting test stand to make sure the 2.7 turbo didn't starve for oil and they ran it under full load with the turbo glowing red for months at a time with no problems. That's what sold me on it after watching the video.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@robd380 that's cool, how can I find this video
@robd380
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 kzitem.info/news/bejne/lY6L22GOgYJyom0 The test stand scene starts at 7:25
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@robd380 thats pretty cool. Diesel strength components and some pretty hard angle testing... and coolant temp cycling which is extremely hard on engines. I'm feeling pretty good about it. I might keep this truck longterm and put a little lift and 37s on it
@jacob.calloway6833
Жыл бұрын
I love a V8 always. But there will never be an argument I won’t agree that vehicles keep getting better and stronger. I love the idea of 4 cylinders. They are simple and reliable for the most part. Why not upgrade it to work too?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
V8 noise is definitely better
@JesusRodriguez-zl3ir
Жыл бұрын
Love the video!!! If I compare the other trucks V8 and V6 the I got before. And very surprised with my 21 Silverado 2.7 and I love it. Pull my 5,800 camper easily and my trailer with the big lawnmowers for all summer and no problem so far. Very happy and good fuel economy... 💪🏽👍🏽
@jonfrink5944
6 ай бұрын
How is it pulling in hills and wind...bad conditions in general? Looking at this truck right now.
@raymondgonzalez8481
Ай бұрын
I drive different vehicles for work. Gasoline wise this engine is extremely impressive compared to some V8s. I would recommend it if you want a daily. I know there are questions about towing. Time will tell! But, with GM going from 60,000 mile powertrain to 100,000 mile powertrain on this engine, they seem pretty confident in it.
@ulyg54
Жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 2023 Chevy Silverado Custom, and the truck is growing on me. I miss my 2019 Silverado and ramble of 5.3L v8, the longer bed, and the features on that truck. Nevertheless I really like my 2023.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I do miss the sounds
@nross33
Жыл бұрын
I was shocked, I had ordered a custom built V8 LT silverado but after driving the 2.7 turbo, I changed my mind and ended up getting a trail boss LT with the 2.7
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have no complaints its been great so far. 22k miles
@sharkskin3448
Жыл бұрын
Setting durability aside, this thing (L3B) is magnificent! Having been in Tundras for years, I'm intrigued. Back to durability; I've watched the GM vids on it's design parameters and testing. I don't really trust any manufacturers today, Toyota included; but this engine is extremely significant to GM's future and they've taken it seriously. 3 years + after introduction and the 5.3 is less reliable than this 2.7 from what I've read in forums from owners.
@markswinford4546
Жыл бұрын
Thus far that is what I am finding too, more reports of issues with the V8 and not this 2.7L. I have an older Silverado with a 5.3, no issues at 160K, but I never towed heavy loads with it either.
@sharkskin3448
Жыл бұрын
@@markswinford4546 5.3 Vortec was more durable than the 5.3 Ecotech.
@markswinford4546
Жыл бұрын
@@sharkskin3448 - GM probably went through a cost cutting effort to cheapen the Ecotech out, and paid for it with poor reliability.
@sharkskin3448
Жыл бұрын
@@markswinford4546 they went for direct injection for fuel efficiency and lower emissions. Toyota and Ford added direct injection, but kept port injection, which keeps the valves cleaner. The combination of the 2 is beneficial you engine life. GM must know this. I don't get their thinking. Also, there have been major issues with the 8 speed trans. I blame government intrusion and inept management. It's a shame. GM has the best automotive engineers in the world. They should get in charge, not the "woke", green new deal executives.
@markswinford4546
Жыл бұрын
@@sharkskin3448 - Big businesses are run by bean counters, for the most part. Although GM's Mary Barra is a EE, so respect given there. The problem with many businesses that make anything in the U.S. is younger people no longer have the hands-on skills they once had. They dropped industrial arts in high schools years ago, the thinking was everyone was going to be a "professional" (lawyer, doctor,...). My Dad taught shop classes in a HS in Skokie IL for 30+ years, and I inherited his hands on skills. So, many engineers right out of college go intro spreadsheet management work, task tracking... BS like that. And I know BS when I see it, I have a B.S. in Aero E. Maybe some of the hands-on skills are coming back, after the outsourcing mania has peaked, and the bean counters now realize that outsourcing everything has problems too, think container ships stuck in ports. Below is how I applied my hands-on skills, now enjoy flying. kzitem.info/news/bejne/tIt8u3t4jGZoZqw
@vatjr9887
Жыл бұрын
Very well done video. Exactly what I was looking for.
@larryporter35
Жыл бұрын
Love mine. Actually believe it's better than my 2013 with 5.3 vortec. God knows fuel wise it is. It pulls my boat like nothing even leaving the ramp is effortless
@williamwhite8355
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 5.3 at the moment. I used to crap in these 4 cylinders but looking at the numbers and videos like this I think I just may get one. It does seem like it is better than a 2013 5.3 which has done everything I’ve needed it to do so why wouldn’t this do the same right?
@larryporter35
Жыл бұрын
@@williamwhite8355 I have had mine now for8 months still shocked of how it compares to my old truck. Only thing is I miss the sound of the v8. Grew up in the 70s and 80s so lot of cool v8 and sounds.
@John___Dough
Жыл бұрын
I just got this truck I agree with everything you said ill update this when I get through my first tank of gas I’m at like 230 miles now and still have half a tank
@Pepelgallo
11 ай бұрын
The 3.0l duramax is the best for towing and fuel efficiency
@mikethomas8453
Жыл бұрын
I own a 2021 Silverado and I am very impressed with the 2.7 turbo. I travel from Houston to Dallas and back every weekend and it only uses 3/4 of a tank of gas. I was doubting the power and towing capabilities but it has held up to what it says it can do. This was a good video to show some of the power.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@Brandon_Nelson92
Жыл бұрын
This is why a lot of people like their ecoboost f150s. These smaller turbocharged gas engines tow WAY better than people would expect. That low-end torque is addictive.
@gregrowe1168
Жыл бұрын
@@Brandon_Nelson92 funny thing about the ecoboost engines are they are selling because they perform well and not for the intended reason of improved fuel economy. Even the 2.7 is a powerhouse and seems more reliable than the 3.5. But have to be driven conservatively to get decent fuel economy.
@Brandon_Nelson92
Жыл бұрын
@@gregrowe1168 I have a 2019 3.5 f150. Driven lightly, I can get 21-22mpg out of it. It can also tow 10k lbs better than my previous 7.3 poweratroke or 5.9 cummins. The diesels were down to 50-55mph on steep grades while the f150 holds 70mph with reserve power. The way I see it, if you don't have to tow over 10k, an ecoboost f150 gives all the towing satisfaction of a diesel truck without the emissions-related headaches.
@toddl1962
Жыл бұрын
How many miles do you have on it so far? I just bought a 2023 with the 2.7L HO. Love it so far! I hope it is as reliable as my last truck (Ford 3.7L NA)
@toddc.4749
Жыл бұрын
We have a 2022 Custom Trail Boss with the 2.7 turbo 430 ft lbs torque and love it. We put our golf cart in the bed and pull our 28’ toy hauler with motorcycle in it at roughly 7700 lbs no problems.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ericj810
Жыл бұрын
Hows the truck still doing pulling the toy hauler? Any issue's? Put down alot of towing miles? Only 1 person I know has 114k on the 2.7 pulling 7600lbs camper with just regular maintenance.
@toddc.4749
Жыл бұрын
Well we have no where near that many miles but still pulls great and no issues!
@dm-lombo1647
Жыл бұрын
I have owned a half dozen 5.3L's. Including a 2020 Silverado RST. I was hesitant to get my 2022 2.7L. But I will never go back to the 5.3L. It is quicker, more fuel efficient (verified, not just computer), tows great. The only downside is the sound. So I'd that if that's important to you it might not be for you.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it is really weird to start a truck and have it sound like a car
@Steven Echelberger Yes! So we have a cottage in northern Michigan. We travel there twice a month, every month. In my 5.3L(2020) I would average between 19 and 22 actual(Weather depending and an average speed of 75 & 78 mpg) With my 2.7L. I average between 21.5 and 24.5 actual(Again weather depending and an average speed between 75 and 78 mph). Speed varying depending on the speed limit... Again that's actual confirmed, not just computer. It drives my wife crazy me always checking it....
@larryj8924
Жыл бұрын
@@dm-lombo1647 Your variance of +2.5 mpg seems in line with GM mpg rating for 5.3 19 mpg & 2.7 22 mpg (two wheel drive). The 2.7 may be my next pickup for light towing.
@markspencer3680
Жыл бұрын
I own 2022 2.7 so love it. I use as my car. Because I hate cars. I only have one problem and it is the info center. Periodically it makes my speakers sound blown. My Chevy dealership won’t do anything about it.
@DavidGarcia-vh3ul
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 hemi and she huffs and puffs towing my 2015 Jayco 23rb travel trailer on the highway....I do live at high altitude by the way. The issue is the transmission gearing...it's to high. Also, on take off it cannot chirp the tires. I'm sure the 34' tires on 20" wheels don't help either. At first I thought GM was crazy dropping a four banger in a truck but then I remembered little tractors use four bangers.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah most things are geared for as much fuel economy as possible. Not a fan of that aspect
@emmanuelalva6597
Жыл бұрын
Who ever buys one of these is a brave soul. V6 engines have come a long way but I’m still weary of them but a 4 cylinder is crazy to me. In sure it’ll be mostly trouble free during the warranty period but out of that who knows.
@chadhyde50
Жыл бұрын
Once you get it tuned you'll like it even more.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
How much HP you get?
@jasonbrushett2005
Жыл бұрын
Awesome performance from this engine.Most owners would be more than happy with the 2.7.The fact that it's a 4 cylinder is hard for the traditional v8 lover to get beyond.But not me.Id buy one in an instant if purchasing a new Chevy or GMC truck.Who needs a v8 sound over performance, not me.Current ride is a 19 F150 Lariat with the 3.5 Ecoboost, love the torque
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The 3.5s are amazing
@brianhuffman3202
Жыл бұрын
I've read and watched the video's, haven't driven one. My complaint is the MPG's aren't there. YES you don't spend 1800+ on the 5.3 but for NEXT TO no MPG improvement, why take the chance AND what NOBODY is mentioning, TRADE-IN value when that time comes. You've got DECADES of knowledge knowing what to expect with your traditional truck trade, but plowing new ground with this 4 banger.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@brianhuffman3202 You're going by the sticker mpgs. This thing gets 28 mpg on long drives and 20 around town. so there is definitely a huge mpg increase. As far as resale goes.... It seems to me that 4 door trucks hold value forever, whereas the 2 doors dont regardless of the engine option.
@The12stonesfan
Жыл бұрын
For the next gen Silverado's, they should just pair it with the 10 speed, all of the other Silverado engine options are paired with 10 speed if im not mistaken
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I wouldn't touch the trans, it really shifts/tows great. I'd be afraid a 10 speed would be a gear hunter
@gregrowe1168
Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine any of these 10 speed transmissions making it past 100k miles. I honestly think that’s the benchmark for reliability for new trucks now, last just long enough to be paid off and throw it away and buy another.
@sebastiancabot3378
Жыл бұрын
The Out start is a pain in the but! That's my only complaint! Like the gas mileage. I am in the market!
@crazyprepper5400
Жыл бұрын
Do some mountain trips with a rv and see if the water boils
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Why would the coolant boil
@brianhuffman3202
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 90 degrees when most folks pull an RV, and some 4 or 5 mile grades are the ultimate test/abuse, no ? Lastly what your test lacked was the wind resistance of pulling a huge box down the interstate, there IS A DIFFERENCE.
@user-sn1se8kh7z
6 ай бұрын
I’m kind of about this. I think the reliability of most trucks decreased. The only v8 I might buy is the 6.6 gas in the 2500
@buildsomethingstupid1736
6 ай бұрын
They have too much tech now to end up being 50 year old classics anymore. Drive em till they get 150k then sell them and move on.
@wes326
Жыл бұрын
Looking at getting a Colorado with this engine for towing a 5000 lb travel trailer. Sounds like a diesel. Thanks for sharing.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it'll tow it great, and best of all get great mileage when you aren't towing
@hm12460
Жыл бұрын
I really like my new 2023 2.7
@charlesjacksoniii8787
Жыл бұрын
I have a lawn care business and i am looking at getting one of these
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Tow good when you got your mower and good gas mileage when u dont
@charlesjacksoniii8787
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736Chevy says it will be the standardd engine.
@nordlandak6853
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking at this vehicle hard. My biggest worry is the 8 speed trannny. I’ve heard nothing bad about the engine.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Do it. My trans is only about 5 degrees warmer when towing the 10k
@thomasmcghee2468
Жыл бұрын
I’m loving mine but I only have 1100 miles thus far
@rotelfan2000
Жыл бұрын
I;ve heard issues too, but oddly seems to not be an issue with the 2.7. wierd
@fbody4me
Жыл бұрын
Seems like an awesome drivetrain! I took my new 183 mile 2023 Sierra 1500 4x4 with the 2.7 to Orlando Speedworld this past Sunday and ran a 14.59 @ 93 mph in the quarter on the one run I was able to make.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
That's about what stock 5.0 mustangs ran in the 80/90s
@offgridliving4128
Жыл бұрын
Just think if you did a cold air intake a exhaust cut out and a tuner.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@offgridliving4128 don't tempt me! Pull up sounding like the fast and the furious
@thomasmcghee2468
Жыл бұрын
Crazy right? How far we’ve come and folks still criticize this engine
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Thomas McGhee I always crack up when someone says something like "I WOULD NEVER GET IT BECAUSE WHAT IF I WENT TO PULL AND TRAILER AND IT COULDNT PULL IT!" That just shows how delusional the world is. I grew up towing cars and scrap with an 85' f150 with an inline six putting out a WHOPPING 114 HP. Lol. It pulled fine. This has more than double the power
@bryane2857
Жыл бұрын
It's a engine that can tow for most people and daily drive and not kill you at the pump.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Exactly very functional for 99% of truck owners
@henrigreene3781
Жыл бұрын
That’s all I need when I get ready to purchase a truck that’s what I want.
@luisrodriguez7215
Ай бұрын
My 2022 Silverado Trail boss with the turbo 4 pulls a 8000lb boat the same or maybe better than my last 2020 Silverado High country 6.2, at 65 mph the turbo 4 never down shifts it just creates more boost. I have 38,700 miles on it and must say that my next truck will have the same engine.
@sinistersilverado965
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 1500HD 6.0 still runs great with 220,000 miles, and it can tow 16,000 pounds, and I can buy a lot of gas for the $55k a new truck would cost
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I had an 01 2500 with the 6.0 and wow was the gas mileage bad. That and fixing it every month.
@macbook802
Жыл бұрын
The reason there's discrepancies in the fuel mileage on the cluster vs on paper is due to the truck's measuring system not being able to measure every cubic inch of fuel in the tank
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Actually the fuel consumption is measured by the computer via fuel pressure and injector pulse length. The DTE is estimated by the fuel tank sensor.
@cjmartin7027
Жыл бұрын
I have one too and took it off-road to the beach and it did as good as anything out there. The 4wd pulls like butter.
@MyClutteredGarage
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I wonder what the lifespan of these engines will be.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Hard to say, but I do like the fact that they used all diesel internals on the engine build. The ability to get high 20s mpg unloaded and still tow almost 10k lbs is awesome for my situation
@glorious.warrior
9 ай бұрын
I ditched the V8 and got a 2024 lt with the turbomax. It’s great plus got a lot of rebates in December when they were trying to sell some inventory. I don’t care as long as in warranty plus Chevrolet is my favorite brand. Affordable, American, and keeps me working in my landscaping business
@daveharris39
6 ай бұрын
I have tested the dash mpg vs actual mpg on my '23 LT 4X4 2.7T and its been about 0.5 mpg optimistic. My last truck, a '17 Sierra base 5.3 was usually 2 full mpg optimistic. Also, not towing, but on my 16 minute commute with 25% 30mph roads and 75% 65-70mph interstate driving, I get better mpg using the trailering mode...like 2mpg better.
@mrconductor144
Жыл бұрын
I will say this, why are you pulling 10,000lbs with a 1/2 ton truck? I get it's got the power and torque down low like a diesel engine. I'd be a bit worried about even pulling 6k or 7k with it and being able to own for 10 to 14 years with little to no problems. I guess this solves the problems people have buying a 1/2 truck and getting bad mileage. Now it's a 1/2 ton truck with the fuel mileage of a 1/4 ton. But with saying that the 2.7 makes its power down low, I don't drive any faster than 110km/h (68mph) hauling my boat (2800lbs)
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I actually agree that id prefer a 3/4 ton for 10k lbs. I had a 15 f250 and suspension wise it's so much better. However the truck is rated for 9600lbs and it just so happens thats how much my tractor weighs. I have a 1/2 truck because i drive 30k miles a year and when im not towing i get 25mpg or up to 30 on long trips. I generally drive 60 max when towing heavy. You generally don't have blowouts on trailer tires at 60!
@kjsmolik
Жыл бұрын
So you are totally satisfied with its towing capabilities? I have been on the fence with this and have watched all the videos I could find for towing. Yours showed it the best. I won't be towing 8k+ on a regular basis but I would like to know that it will do it no problem if I need it. I'm very impressed with this setup.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
100% Satisfied. The combo of massive torque plus excellent trans programming makes this the best towing 150/1500 I've ever used. The RPMs stay lower climbing mountains than anything ive ever towed with. I just towed the boat 4 hours in the mountains and dont think it ever went over 2500 rpms.
@romanmoroni2785
2 ай бұрын
Nice set up but I'm sticking with my 6.2L.
@Peaches-N-Mango
Жыл бұрын
As emissions standard gets stricter and stricter, engines like this will become the new diesels.
@freeforall825
6 ай бұрын
My concern is the longevity of these engines. There's a hamster in there losing its mind somewhere.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
6 ай бұрын
Several very buff hamsters, taking supplements and chugging monster.
@rickdarris6152
Жыл бұрын
Cool, but what about continuous hauling at near capacity.? That's the test.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
How many miles is continuous?
@rickdarris6152
Жыл бұрын
@Build Something Stupid hauling at 75% or more capability about 2x a week
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@rickdarris6152 done, 15k miles so far
@leeslawnservicesllc3775
Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about buying one kinda skeptical about the engine I tow for long periods of time around 3000 pounds but I like the performance and gas mileage.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
3000lbs the truck wont even know its there besides the gas mileage drop
@thetalkingboard
Жыл бұрын
GM has destroyed the long term durability and reliability of their V8s anyway with cylinder deactivation, auto start stop, direct injection. So you can’t really argue the 4 cylinder is less reliable.
@mbukukanyau
Жыл бұрын
No, they have not 'destroyed the reliability', and I wouldn't get 4 banger . The V8 still rules
@calebniederhofer6529
Жыл бұрын
@@mbukukanyau He is correct. GM has had a lot of issues with the 6.2 and even the 5.3. The 2.7 has has been a very reliable motor, and only drawback is the 8 speed transmission. I would argue that the 2.7 is a better motor for most people. People comment about it being a 4 cylinder motor, but really are uneducated about the motor. The internals are built to diesel motor standards, and only increased with the upgraded second gen version.
@jesusgomez14163
Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@blackericdenice
Жыл бұрын
Direct fuel injection is not a bad thing. My F165 has 89k miles and I have never had the intake valves clean and my engine run fine.
@mbukukanyau
Жыл бұрын
@Caleb Niederhofer Not really, a few internet posts by man-Karens that abuse their trucks do not bear true to statistical realities, like JD Powers that pulls dealer warranty Data. GMC and Chevrolet have the highest score of any brand in initial and long term warranty costs., meaning, least problems for every truck sold, and they by far dominate the market
@b.b.5048
11 ай бұрын
Awesome video! The only other thing I’d like to see is towing from 70-75 mph. Can it do that without screaming at a high rpm? Thanks again.
@ComfyDadShoes
Жыл бұрын
I want one, but I don’t want to pay the inevitable repair cost when the turbo eventually fails in 8 yeats
@MrGomjabber
5 ай бұрын
I love my Hemi that I own, it makes such great sound. But...... Those days are almost over and the more I read about this the more I am liking it. This was built to be a truck engine and I am really liking it. Also, I am a basic dude, I like the idea of getting a Silverado Custom for under 40k which I am seeing right now. Thanks for the vid and real life footage of this little beast.
@lancewhite1758
17 күн бұрын
My opinion if you want a four cylinder or even a 6 cylinder get you a Chevy Colorado or Dodge dakota or a Ford ranger. Leave the v8 in the half tons. When getting a half tons you should expect to not have as good of gas mileage.
@vincemartinez3328
Жыл бұрын
What do you think Lance? "It's an amazing machine..."😳
@totallyi812
Жыл бұрын
Drive from phx az to Florida with 8,900 .
@freebehindbars8654
Жыл бұрын
Run a scope on those valves, now that you have some miles on it.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Are they dirty?
@MartyBuchaus
Жыл бұрын
For how long. Simple physics dictate a v8 would almost last twice as long
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
You could definitely make that argument... however, engines failing from wear and tear over time is very rare. True wear and tear would be failure due to low compression that is relatively equal across all cylinders, and critically low oil pressure caused by excessive spacing from worn bearings. But in the real world it is usually a manufacturing defect /design issue that causes one particular bearing or ring to fail.. that being said 4 cylinders only have half the rings so it's less likely to have a manufacturing defect... additionally, this engine is built like a diesel with a completely forged bottom end. So who knows. Honestly it check all my functional boxes and is likely to be at my house for a long time... which means it will see a lot of mileage
@mikee7241
Жыл бұрын
My biggest concern with any of the GM engines including the 4 cylinder engine in the Silverado is that AFM. I mean the engine can drop all the way to one cylinder. That’s a lot of pressure on that engine.
@25brentharris
Жыл бұрын
I just think that little engine is more stressed and has to work a lot harder to move all that. Way too complicated. Great concept but long-term reliability would be my biggest concern with this engine especially is you're towing like this a lot
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
That's pretty crazy going to 1 cylinder
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@25brentharris I'll let you know I drive a lot. Should have a lot of miles in a couple years. Have ya ll seen the electric hummers stats?
@dm-lombo1647
Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% It makes me not want to buy any of them. It is a huge issue on any of those engines. My brother had his entire valvletrain replaced on his 2019 Tahoe with un 8000 miles on the vehicle... Unreal
@mikee7241
Жыл бұрын
@@25brentharris I agree with you I think though if the oil is changed regularly and don’t use it to tow a lot it should last.
@jcaaa5w837
3 ай бұрын
See how long that last
@behnkeee
7 ай бұрын
Hey, do u notice any oil burn between oil changes? some people are reporting about a quart low after 5k of driving. THANKS
@buildsomethingstupid1736
6 ай бұрын
zero drop and I check because the intervals are so long. typically at about 4k miles i check and then again right before i drop off for oil change
@pmaison
Жыл бұрын
(JAN 2023) I've been seriously considering getting this truck. Any new updates you can share, perhaps things you may have just noticed recently that you weren't aware of, or experiencing earlier? Thanks a bunch!!
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
11k miles now, everything still works great. My only dislikes are more personal taste and design flaws with the interior (thats an opinion of course)
@pmaison
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Awesome, thanks for your feedback!!
@jimparker7778
Жыл бұрын
My reservation about these trucks at peak load (including the 2.7 F150) is brakes, tires and steering, not horsepower or torque.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Then you shouldn't have any reservations as the steering, brakes, and tires are the same as any other 1500/150 truck
@jimparker7778
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Did your video focus on those?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@jimparker7778 no this was on the engine
@jimparker7778
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Your headline referred to towing, not drag racing. A good tow rig needs the right tires, brakes and steering to keep from being unsafe. Lack of power won't get you killed but bad brakes or tires will.
@Memeteam903
Жыл бұрын
As a 2.7 ecoboost owner I can say there is 0 advantages to getting the V8 other than sound. The Turbo motors make so much more low rpm torque and get much better fuel economy. I think the V8 ford may end up being more reliable due too less parts to break.
@BamaTidefan1967
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I drove a 3.5 ECO first and then a 5.0 second. The V8 was a dog around town compared to the turbo V6. The V8 required a lot of RPM to get moving where the Ecoboost was a beast off idle.
@johnclifford1911
Жыл бұрын
A Turbo is a great way to get a lot of power out of an engine, but there's no such thing as a free lunch. Note the gas mileage is well below 10 mpg when under load. The good thing about a small turbo gas engine is that they are economical when not loaded, but performance sucks the gas. This is what's great about a diesel, like my Ecodiesel 3.0L turbo V6. I get in the mid-teens or better towing a heavy trailer, can do 70 mph over 4500' mountain passes while getting 20+ mpg towing 4000 lbs, and over 25 mpg when cruising at 70+on the interstate without a trailer. You can't get this level of performance with a gas engine, because unlike a gas engine with a constant fuel/air ratio that requires more gas with more air/boost to work, you can just throw more air into a diesel without having to add a proportionate amount of fuel. BTW I've seen the 5.3L V8 Chevy LS motor that turns cylinders off get close to 30 mpg cruising on the interstate at 70. Of course, gas mileage will go down greatly if towing. The 2.7 is great for occasional heavy load towing, towing under 6000 lbs a lot, and for a truck that mostly hauls passengers (which is what most people do most of the time with a 1/2 ton truck), but if you're going to do a lot of towing 9000 lb loads you'd be better off with a bigger engine and perhaps a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I get about 11-12 mpg while towing the maximum capacity and 18-19 while towing a single axle trailer (3500lbs). Turbos definitely suck the gas down while under load. If I cheat the mpg(as you are suggesting above by resetting the mpg after you are up to speed and cruising) this truck will get 35 mpg. If you really want to be amazed... set the cruise at 45mph and you can get 45mpg
@kiddkiddstoy9867
Жыл бұрын
If this new 4cyl is so powerful, durable reliable than the V8 and being touted as the new messiah in GM truck engines then why doesnt GM put it in the 2500s and 3500's?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
It's actually because federal regulations require a good gas mileage option in 1500s but they do not require it on 2500s and up. Same reason why multiple displacement systems are not on 2500/3500s. I have a giant Excursion (see other videos) and I would love to have this 2.7l turbo as the powertrain!. Not only for better gas mileage but also for the fact that everyone's head would explode in anger for me having a 4 cyl excursion
@reeceealy577
6 ай бұрын
You still like your 2.7 gm?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
6 ай бұрын
Yeah no problems so far except a backup camera, 35k miles.
@holtzyr
Жыл бұрын
I’m curious how the fuel economy is under a towing situation, with the 4 vs 8. Just thinking the 4 motor working harder than the 8? If a guy was hauling more often than maybe the 8 would be better?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Turbos generally use more fuel when under boost. I get 12-13 when towing the 9200lbs. And 16-17 when towing a single axle trailer.
@captainspaulding4777
Жыл бұрын
It may tow better than the 8’s, but how long will it do it?
@ericmackison9517
Жыл бұрын
Hey I know where you are! I live very close to you. Nice video!
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Haha small world
@ericmackison9517
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 yessir! I live in southern Cpep!
@russdavis2942
Жыл бұрын
I find I get much better mileage than the dash indicates. Have not calculated it exactly but making the same 40 mile run 5 days a week I fill the 4 banger way less than my 03 v6
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah both this and my ram 1500 got around 450 miles per tank.. but this one only takes 21 gallons instead of 28
@brianhuffman3202
Жыл бұрын
I would encourage you to "pencil it out" as EVERY GM economy meter I have EVER owned is 1 to 2 mpg's "optimistic" or more than actual. See if yours is.
@offgridliving4128
Жыл бұрын
Diesels are doomed. I have a 2.8l diesel and would much rather have this. More Hp more torque and $1 a gallon cheaper for fuel. Also gets the same mileage as my Colorado in a full size.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yep I think diesels are pointless nowadays due to fuel cost. I'd much rather have gas, they are cheaper to work on too.
@KTMjs449
6 ай бұрын
Curious about EGTs/turbo temp towing in traffic and hills not just highway
@buildsomethingstupid1736
6 ай бұрын
Well I have never driven it with a scanner attached, but coolant and trans temp stay exactly the same at all time once fully warmed up. Any hot day towing or not towing the trans eventually reaches 195-205. If you are unloaded it takes like an hour to get to that temp when loaded its only about 20 minutes
@crazyprepper5400
Жыл бұрын
It may but come back after 100k.
@Reaper6x8125
Жыл бұрын
How good is this engine for a off road adventure
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Good so far! Pretty much all GMs have a built in rear locker so it's pretty good
@johnmills837
Жыл бұрын
What' 70 more? 0:16
@rustedratchetgarage6788
Жыл бұрын
Let's be realistic the four-cylinder Silverado is not meant to tow heavy loads but this does prove that it is able and capable and produces the torque to sufficiently move weight when you need to for the people who don't tow every day and don't tell heavy loads on a regular basis a four-cylinder is perfect why buy the V8 when it's in four cylinder mode most of the time anyway
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sbrice23
5 ай бұрын
How would I’d do with a camper? Almost weighted at 10k
@buildsomethingstupid1736
5 ай бұрын
I'm sure it'd do well. If I were living on the road towing 10k I would probably get a 3/4 ton though.
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