Anything that is just openly disrespectful or off topic from the video will be deleted. I'm willing to discuss things but only in a civilized manner.
@mercster
Жыл бұрын
I'm on PC by the way.
@xBradderzzz
Жыл бұрын
If you play defensive as a tank your "Garbage". False, PB and vDSR requires you even in a scorepushing environment to be defensive to live. -If you have a Brittle Den or a DK Dps run stone giant "your a terrible group" False - PB world records and SS world record was achieved with brittleden and DK stone giant (having these help so much making the comp more flexible) -No such thing as a "Static Rotation" False - records again had players use static rotations, most other prefer dynamic to push extra damage -People "Need" to run dynamic for HM content False - ^ -People "Need" to be melee for HM Content False - records with infernos have been achieved again and guess what for? safety Brother, you need to stop fixating on the comments made by the 1% of idiots who are unaware of what they're talking about and who probably watched one parse video and hit 100k on dummy. Scorepushers on ESOU have teamtags, either Stress Tested, Poopenfarten, Socia'tael, Sload Grinders or Unchanined Animals, they're the only world records gamers, so any other claiming to be one without a tag is a loser pretending to be one and spreading false information you're showing screenshots of moderators who don't even play the game, admittly they're awful when it comes to handling toxicity in ESOU I can agree with that but if ur only showing screenshots of 5 people of the hundred others who provide ACTUAL USEFUL information then your delusional
@ParetoESO
Жыл бұрын
If the other mods and the owner of ESOU Nefas shared your opinion and removed toxicity like this I wouldn't have made this video. I created this video because they supported this mods statements and removed me for what was said. It's not ment to insult every member of ESO-U and those that give balanced anwsers. It's ment to provide awareness that this toxic attitude is a top down problem in ESO-U starting with Nefas.
@xBradderzzz
Жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO I lowkey agree with you, ESOU moderators are downright awful, with some who don't play the game and who share false information and unnecessarily escalates issues. some mods are honestly the only issue I see with ESOU, but the Faculty do actually go out of their way, to help others when requested which is the best part of that discord. You shouldn't discourage people to go seek help on ESOU, because regardless of the mods, most Faculty are still there and are willing to help as long as you ask, most Faculty and I say ''most'' because I believe Nefas gave the role to people who are still unaware of the game, but he likes them regardless so gave them a role to look cool.
@ParadoxESO
2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be real chief, the 103k dps bow bow sorc ain't it also all the screen shots you have shown are pretty much you reccomending a weird off meta low dps build you made to people who are asking for legitimate advice so yes the people correcting you are some what correct for correcting you as you are spreading bad info to the new players.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
The build i recommended hits 113-115k...regardless you missed the point entirely: -My 12 sec static rotation gets 92% of the dps of a full dynamic setup. I think 8% less doesn't qualify for "Low dps". -That 8% comes at the cost of much more difficulty. Which is a barrier for alot of players I want to tear down. - The player I gave this build too just want to do vet trials, not even HMs. Toxic Elitists like I mentioned in the video only give advice based on pushing leaderboard scores. They don't take in to factor peoples goals and experience less vary. Which ultimately will affect what is Good Advice vs Bad Advice. I mean are you really saying a person who wants to clear vet trials needs to have a 120+ parse on stam sorc using melee weapons full dynamic rotation? That a 115k 12 sec static rotation won't do the trick?
@ParadoxESO
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO No but you have recommended him a 2 bar bow bow sorc set up when you could have gave him a 1 bar Templar with oakensoul that smashes more dps and is essentially a really simply build where you mostly only do jabs if you wanted it to be beginner friendly and simple. Also people generally in any game want to shoot for the BIS items they dont generally want to grind for something mid teir that "will do" so in eso at cp 160 you may as well farm the BIS stuff like kinra or bashei etc.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxESO He was a sorc wanting a ranged setup. So that build wouldn't have helped him. However if you had a build you think better suited his needs. Give it to him. Let that person decide. Thats a much better action then attacking other peoples builds. Is there an oaken soul plar build with jabs hitting 115k+ in lost depths? I'd make a whole bunch of oaken soul build videos. However VCR barswap mechanic kills it. I like my builds to be one size fits all for trials.
@3SweppeR4
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO Trial fights are all so very different that it hurts players learning on the long run if they rely on 1 clunky spec. Different fights need different adaptation from builds sets and skills.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
@@3SweppeR4 Some setups perform better over others depending on the fight. However marginal differences that won't make or break a clear. I've had success, as well as others. Using my builds to clear 95% of vet content and HMs in the game.
@prisonbreakd
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is on ESOU (as a very casual member), I disagree that ESOU is this toxic elitist breeding ground. I've had good experiences there, I've been recommended stuff that helped my prog group do vDLC HMs, I asked many questions about raids and mechanics through their bot and someone always answered, usually multiple people even. This too helped me as a raid lead to understanding how my group can do better. I think the fact that you blame the whole guild for a bad experience you had is shameful, especially because some of those screenshots don't even show the full picture (I went and searched to read what actually happened). I disagree with some of the mods and the way they talk to people, I think some of them often are too trigger-happy, but I recognize that one or two mods do not represent many thousands of ESO players there. Do I think groups that are learning content and struggling with mechanics need to go all top-tier meta? No, not really, as long as you meet damage check mechanics. Do I think sometimes players who are struggling with mechanics should play more safely? Yes. But when you bring in "drama" and use the ESOU logo in your video, post screenshots (I am guessing without permission of people involved), it loses all validity to me and seems very attention-seeking and "hey, if you too hate Nefas, I have a channel you can follow". Shame, as it would have been nice to see someone just talk about safer strategies to use and off-meta builds that can help if you are bad with reacting to mechanics or get easily overwhelmed with visual clutter.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
All of my posts were deleted. So unless you read this two weeks ago you can't get the full picture. I didn't accuse the whole guild of being toxic. I said the GM and "most" of the mods. I'm happy you've enjoyed ESO-U. That wasn't my experience and I think the video does a good job showing why.
@dagonslayer51
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO I was there while the whole thing happened and I very clearly remember how you kept trying to push your views and kept arguing even when the mods told you and the other person to stop. I find it hilarious how you decide to exaggerate on stuff just to make the "toxic elitists" seem worse. No raid lead in their right mind gives a single fuck about your rotation. If you can do the damage they ask and follow instructions, there shouldn't be any problem. Your issue was that you got pissy because someone hurt your feelings and criticized your build, and instead of taking it on the chin and moving on, you kept on with the conversation repeating the same things over and over again. It is funny how you talk about toxic casuals while promoting that same mentality. You kept pushing for range because it is easier to react and see AoEs, but when someone mentioned it was a crutch and that playing ranged far from the group created bad habits that are hurtful to groups on harder content, you again got pissy and defensive. Learn to take an L and move on.
@prisonbreakd
2 жыл бұрын
I read it now because parts before/after your posted screenshots of conversations are still there, and that's what I wanted to see. I stand by what I said, the use of logo, the video's thumbnail, and the texts in the video "ESOU is a Breeding Ground For Toxic Elitism", as well as screenshots from DMs used without permission all clearly state your dislike for ESOU, like for drama, and "not all members" in one comment goes unnoticed. I get where you are coming from, I know you wanted to help the guy who asked about a build, and I think you missed that an hour earlier there had been a lengthy conversation about meleee vs. ranged in content, that players had discussed, so you unintentionally stepped on some sore toes. But going about it the way you did does not make you any better than what you claim they did. You can say "I say most mods and not everyone" but people see the thumbnail, the message, the crossed logo, and it tells a different story.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
You said you went back and read the posts and now have the "full picture". I'm saying my post's were deleted. So you can only see 50% of the interactions. Thats not a full picture. Literally by definition. I'm not sure what else to say other than I think you are making defensive assumptions about me because you personally like ESO-U. As I said before. If you like ESO-U stay there. However I'm allowed to express my opinions. I don't need permission to share the messages I did and the thumbnail and Icon are relevant to the video since IMO ESO-U does breed toxic elitist people.
@kal2103
2 жыл бұрын
It can be. there will be bound to be people like that. EsoU has a huge amount of players even now and it is an unfortunate trade off when community becomes big. You get people like that. Doesn't help that most people will notice more on the negatives and less on the positives.
@thenightswatch1083
2 жыл бұрын
I've cleared every vet dungeon (except the 2 new ones released today with lost depths) and every vet trial but 4. This one guild had a 70k dps minimum which is fine. I sent a parse video with 79k and they said no because I was using a set they weren't familiar with(overwhelming surge lol) and I was missed some light attacks. I've always been a healer... was trying get better. I just want my clears, not trying to score push😥
@MoonlightSonata160
Жыл бұрын
Most top guild are fine with 70k dps+ just dump that guild for a better one that is actually willing to do vet contents with others.
@JoyfullyOrdinary
2 жыл бұрын
How is asking someone not to give bad advice toxic? ESO is a game where there is a meta, and some things ARE better than others. If someone asked for a static bow bow sorc build I'm sure no one would have a problem with you sharing yours. But if someone asks whats best, they do not need you spreading false info.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what happened. Individual wanted an easy build for vet trials. Why respond to a video if you havnt even watched? Better needs to take into account a players skill level. Dynamic rotations are only better if you can actually do them well in content.
@BulletProofV2
2 жыл бұрын
Almost like you only beat that HoF score bc it was a TTT carry where we barrier spammed and skipped ads 💀🤣
@laviniascott661
2 жыл бұрын
A group that we put together in a day too, tough
@x-regall-x5032
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
As I said in the video. I'm sure if you really tried our score could be easily beaten. That wasn't the point. The point was that it isn't needed. And by straying from the Meta path you can include more people into the end game community. Although I'd say a carry group vs 9 first time TTT's is a semi fair trade off lol.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
What adds can you skip lol? Dam if I knew that I would have done it. As were not interested in pushing score. Would have made it easier.
@jchysteria
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO as a “content expert” you would think you would know 🤔
@xnokha000
2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to correct some false information you put in your video- at the end, the “Planesbreakers doing dynamic rotations” were actually doing a TTT carry, in which they just spammed barriers and played safely to get the trifecta done in one night. kzitem.info/news/bejne/0Hdov5uBrnSGo4Y Here’s the link to a pov to our TTT we did a year ago, when burn was around 30k-40k lower than it is now where we get a 220k. (-: This goes to show that even with significantly less burn, dynamic rotations still greatly outweigh the potential of suboptimal, static rotations.
@laviniascott661
2 жыл бұрын
Also want to note that that TTT Nokha linked in the comment was extremely suboptimal on a support end with no ulti orders and using sets like gale rather than using empower well. Dynamic rotations still beat out even in that context.
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing in my video is false. We did beat your score, whatever the reasons. However, those are fair points. However we were also not pushing scores and using barriers to get through everything. We also had 9 first time TTT's. Even with all that no doubt your team could push leaderboards higher if you can do dynamic rotations well in content. No doubt your team is more skilled and I'm happy you can do that. However the main points in my video are. Not everyone can do dynamic rotations in content. And forcing people into whats optimal or best isn't needed to clear content. So as I can be happy for you. I simply want the end game community to be happy for mid tier groups clearing content using easier paths that includes more people. Instead of being toxic and forcing barriers unto people that are not needed. Thats the point I'm trying to make. EDIT: Also there are lots of factors in ESO. Part of that score difference may be due to your team being just better players. And if you used a static rotation you would have a similar score because you speed between pulls, time on target etc are all baseline higher. Food for thought.
@laviniascott661
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO our video that was linked was almost all first TTTs too lol
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
@@laviniascott661 Awesome good job! Like I said In the video more skilled players can easily beat our score. Thats not the point of the video. The point is this obsession with whats best creates pointless barriers for players trying to enter the end game community.
@laviniascott661
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO I’m confused why you had to @ us in the video though by saying your group pulled ahead of PB players and then backpedaled with these responses. Food for thought. If it’s truly “not about score” there was no need to do that
@menace2321
Жыл бұрын
I’m reading through the comments and I’m legit confused… why are people giving you sht? I really don’t understand. I think cuz there’s a stigma towards bow builds or something? That person asked a question and you answered it: 115k dps on a non meta setup with static rotation? All they wanna do is clear a few vet trials? They are at 50k dps currently? And you got sht for not recommending “perfected who gives a damn” paired with (insert other situation set) that a newer player won’t know when to swap that set out for something else. The player basically wanted to hit the dps requirement to start running vet content. They didn’t say get me to the leaderboards, they said “hey I’m having trouble and these are my goals.” I’ve 100% been asking myself this question since the day I started progging trials: why tf does it matter who’s on what class, wearing this/that, etc… if you just want a clear? (If the damage is there) then all that’s left are mechanics. And I think that’s the issue… Mechanics. Every dummy humpers worst nightmare 🤣 “if you’re that afraid of mechanics, go craft me a sandwich.” - ghandi
@mercster
Жыл бұрын
Is there a community that is large-ish and can help people with builds, without insisting on using meta/near-perfect combinations? It seems to me that people can choose whatever gear/skills they like, and someone should still give them advice... it's their fault if noone wants them in their group going forward, as long as they're told "You will have a hard time finding groups with that choice." Etc.
@Nightharrow
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I just wanted to invite you to a discord I run for more casual players. We focus on helping new people get into end game in an accessible way, and we would love to have you. If you’ve got room for another discord that is, but it sounds like a spot might just have opened up. And of course no worries if not. I just really like where you are coming from and feel like you have a lot to offer the community. We are only at like 800 or so people right now but growing daily. I’ll also note as an aside, I generally always recommend people use a dynamic rotation because that’s what I find easiest and think is best for people in content (and I could be wrong or projecting). But with that I totally respect a different opinion and mostly just appreciate that even with different opinions we are both trying to help make end game more accessible. I won’t link the discord here because that seems crass, but you can find it in my channel info. Thanks for making great videos.
@ParetoESO
Жыл бұрын
Sounds great, I'll join. I'm not anti-dynamic, I don't view static vs dynamic as right vs wrong. I view them both as pros and cons.
@Nightharrow
Жыл бұрын
@@ParetoESO for sure, I was just making the point that reasonable minds can disagree and still have the same goals.
@ParetoESO
Жыл бұрын
@@Nightharrow 100%, I was just talking with a friend about this the other day. I wont be offended if you make a suggestion. You shouldn't be offended if I decide not to do it. That way we can both be open to each others ideas without fear of growing resentment. Aka...being an adult haha.
@Firefox-lt6zi
2 жыл бұрын
I Fully Agree with your statement and i believe we should form our own server and show these toxic elitists how amazing the casual ESO community is 🙂
@IrishOphidia
Жыл бұрын
How exactly do you plan to achieve this?
@bruh-gf8su
Жыл бұрын
Lol. Amazingly mediocre. You mean.
@IrishOphidia
Жыл бұрын
@@bruh-gf8su right?! I don’t understand their comment at all. Are they going to band together and somehow start posting world record runs all of the sudden?
@serdar1444
2 жыл бұрын
Just ignore these toxic turds. Left their server because i shared my opinion on the U35 changes and got harassed and bullied because of that. Sad that those kind of people ruin the overall game behaviour
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
I left the comments on so people can see the mob mentality of ESO-U and how they attack, harass and bully in a childish way. They are actually helping to prove my accusations for me.
@bloodmagiclord8253
2 жыл бұрын
Damn, didn't realize ESOU was moderated by 12 year olds. Seems helping newer players is only acceptable if its done "their way". Quite disappointing given the amount of influence they currently have in the community. Got to love some good old gatekeeping.
@JoyfullyOrdinary
2 жыл бұрын
ESOU is actually the least toxic iteration of the highest skilled players helping everyone else. 99% of people who ask for help get insightful information geared to their problem. I have seen people ask the dumbest questions where the answer literally was just use your reading comprehesion and you'll understand get very kind and understanding answers from both faculty and mods
@ParetoESO
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoyfullyOrdinary that's like me saying... John Doe only killed one person. Jane Doe killed 3 people. John is such a good person. If what your saying is true.... how do you explain my screenshots? ESO-U will give you as the mod said in my screenshot. "The sweatiest answer any time of the day". Which sometimes is bad advice depending on the players skills. So they will give you meta singular advice. They will not accommodate you. Prove in the video. Wanted to give this guy a build he asked for. That hits 8% less than full damage dynamic melee rotation. 8% for him to play the game in a way he finds enjoyable. Yet I was publicly attacked. That doesn't match with what your saying about ESO-U.
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