@@ProductReviewCarswhy is it called brZED is that just a British thing
@malthesn
9 ай бұрын
@@CtskatesZ can be pronounced in 2 different ways, I also say "zed"
@OTPulse
7 ай бұрын
@malthesn nah it's Zed, yanks just can't do English
@14bqdonk
7 ай бұрын
@@CtskatesBecause ZED is how Z *originally* pronounced
@richardhoulton4016
10 ай бұрын
In Australia a manual GR86 is nearly $5K more expensive than a BRZ because of Toyota Australia’s decision to offer the manual & auto at the same price. The BRZ is the smarter choice.
@subiesnacks8446
10 ай бұрын
5k is chump change when purchasing a new vehicle.
@richardhoulton4016
10 ай бұрын
@@subiesnacks8446 It’s 10% difference
@subiesnacks8446
10 ай бұрын
@@richardhoulton4016now that its a percentage my mind has changed
@acogzxin2963
9 ай бұрын
@@richardhoulton4016fr especially if it’s being financed that’s 10% on top of an already existing percentage of APR
@jacksonboyd
9 ай бұрын
@@subiesnacks8446not when it’s a significant percentage difference
@Nkb3283
7 ай бұрын
Basically: Why I want to buy the same car over the other same car
@steezenx7399
3 күн бұрын
The suspension is actually different on both cars. Front knuckles are different and rear sway bar are mounted different. So the brz is a little softer and better for a daily
@yeshwah
2 ай бұрын
couldn’t decide so i bought a miata
@ProductReviewCars
2 ай бұрын
Excellent alternative
@tizodd6
4 күн бұрын
M iata I s A always T the A nswer
@ExperiMentalDon
25 күн бұрын
I like that the 86 and the BRZ have the different front ends. The 86 looks like it's intently digging into the drive, while the BRZ is giggling because it's just having fun. Damn I really want one of these.
@jordangordon2350
10 күн бұрын
I love that they're both great options that are slightly different. I personally prefer the BRZs looks, stability, WRBlue, but both are great cars
@elpettywifi3081
10 ай бұрын
don’t forget market adjustment on the gr86! brz is always msrp
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
Not here in Aus lol
@Stadkami
10 ай бұрын
i got my gr86 for msrp here in the states. Waited probably 2-3 months
@GurenReroll
9 ай бұрын
Not true. There are Subaru dealerships marking this up. 3.5k was the highest from when I tried to buy one.
@Jacccccccc
8 ай бұрын
Not here in LA
@elpettywifi3081
8 ай бұрын
@@Jacccccccc got mine in sherman oaks, can vouch that LA does have msrp
@paradoxgaming0407
Ай бұрын
I just like the lil smile on the BRZ :)
@H.K_R
8 ай бұрын
Don’t forget that the BRZ also comes with Subaru’s excellent EyeSight safety system, making it a safer daily driver.
@spartanswill
8 ай бұрын
GR86 has the Toyota safety sense
@RRtradestar
5 ай бұрын
Only if you make the mistake of getting A BRZ with the automatic transmission
@digitalsmithy
3 ай бұрын
I would hate to have eyesight on my car, no thanks. A lot of ppl need it tho so I’m not against it. Half the reason I bought this car is how analog it is
@creepynutsrl
3 ай бұрын
subaru is owned by toyota, both have the same tech and features
@gary_beniford
3 ай бұрын
@@creepynutsrlactually toyota only owns a fraction of subaru.
@Driftuner
7 ай бұрын
Did he just say that subaru made the brz more stiff? See people, thats why you cant listen to youtubers, they just dont know what they are talking about. The very only mechanical difference between both cars is the suspension, and the 86 is way stiffer than the brz. The sway bars on the 86 are not only thicker, but they are also mounted directly to the body of the car. On the brz the sway bars are thinner and mounted to the subframe of the rear diff. The sway bar ratio is also different: the brz has the same bar thickness front and back while on the 86 the rear bar is thicker than the front one. Hence why the 86 can hold drifts more precisely than the brz and the brz understeers a bit more. Plus, spring rates and valving are much stiffer on the 86, about 10-15% stiffer, front and back. That makes the brz the better everyday/long trip commuter and the 86 the better track day car...
@ProductReviewCars
7 ай бұрын
Funny. All my research suggests the new gen 86 is the more soft on the rear. Proving this point wrong. Of course I should get them side by side and get underneath to really sus it out.
@Driftuner
7 ай бұрын
@@ProductReviewCarsmaybe what you found is that yes they did make it softer compared to last gen, because the chassis rigidity went up by a rdiculous 40%. But its only softer compared to last gen, not compared to the suby. On both gens the suby is always softer on the rear than the 86
@jasonhurdlow6607
2 ай бұрын
Yep, which is why if I ever get one it'll be the BRZ, even though the 'yota looks better. I'd daily drive it and the comfort would be a key factor. I don't have a track within hundreds of miles.
@ninjaknight-jn9ky
Ай бұрын
The brz is the one with the chassis mounted swaybar it's also hollow.
@jcrbama
Ай бұрын
Subaru also used aluminum knuckles in the front suspension vs. Toyota using iron. The throttle mapping is just a bit different as well. The BRZ is more linear and the GR86 is more biased toward the top of the pedal travel. Small things that make them just a tiny bit different. The GR86 feels a bit more edgy and the BRZ feels a bit more balanced out.
@_mark_787
10 ай бұрын
Keep it up, Bro🤙🏽
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
Cheers!! Appreciate it :)
@liamandrewartha4803
6 ай бұрын
New ts spec on the BRZ means better dampers, bigger brakes and a red accented interior ;)
@loco_mopowa_los
9 ай бұрын
In the USA Brz has the red seats while the gr86 is grey
@iheartninja
9 ай бұрын
I was gonna say. I have a BRZ and it has the red accents, which is perfect because it matches my paint.
@pawg206
Ай бұрын
What’s cooler about the interior? 😂
@eagle_2351
7 ай бұрын
As a subi fanboy, I dont have a choice. I also prefer the brz intrument cluster.
@TrojanRabbit521
4 ай бұрын
Plus better dealership experience and if I have engine issues want Subaru to fix it.
@AstroZombie1
3 ай бұрын
As a Toyota fan, I'd still get BRZ for the TS trim.
@Dragon228833
10 ай бұрын
Wish mine came with that red interior. The black looks great but that red 😫
@PaleoArchives
Ай бұрын
It looks very good in white, also the license plate slaps.
@vibingwithjoseph4100
6 күн бұрын
I miss and prefer the older look that the cars had they looked more aggressive and look better when fully customized with a kit
@alabdel1388
8 ай бұрын
Good reasoning, agree 100%
@noahpickerill3749
3 ай бұрын
Woah the black and red interior is awesome! 😀
@Dominik189
10 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd take either, just don't forget to budget the unfuccing of the oil system with a dry sump one and a sump with an actual seal instead of silicone.
@zayya5284
8 ай бұрын
For real, I hope they fix it in the facelift
@Astartes7670
2 ай бұрын
The rtv is from the whole engine not just the one from the pan, better then nth i guess
@Dominik189
2 ай бұрын
@@Astartes7670 so just budget a rebuild of the engine with proper MLS gaskets?
@Partizan-one
Ай бұрын
I miss the lava orange colour.
@ludicrousspeeds4938
5 ай бұрын
Where can you get a red interior? Black is the only option in the US.
@13jeffandtrish
10 ай бұрын
Subaru doesn't give you a full spare tire at least not here in Canada
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
Sucks :(
@asherpangu
8 күн бұрын
Does it have better looking modern icons on the screen compared to stupid silly looking bubbles on Subaru?
@derekwong3471
24 күн бұрын
Side note on the BRZ : more robust front subframe and aluminum front knuckles.
@bserious8341
22 күн бұрын
Its the same car so comparing the two is just stupid. Ppl just rather the toyota bc its got a cooler name and toyota jdm badges. Front end is the only major difference and its based off opinion. Personally i like the longer nose on the brz
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodjinx
Ай бұрын
I've always loved the look of the 86's but the BRZs kinda grew on me too. Thankfully I'm a WRX guy so I don't have to make the choice cause I love them both
@HazyTown01
8 ай бұрын
I keep hearing too much about RTV in the oil pickup to feel confident in getting one.
@ProductReviewCars
8 ай бұрын
can fix in the aftermarket, but it's annoying af
@untheist5533
3 ай бұрын
Can a full size spare fit in the GR86 ?
@Mathman420
2 ай бұрын
2024 Civic Si for me please.
@user-mi3gq2fn4z
20 күн бұрын
bro said BRZ in the beginning and I was like something is not right here
@bign1667
2 ай бұрын
Can you put a spare tyre on the GR86?
@omerozer9667
9 ай бұрын
You know what i prefer the brz face with that smile the gr is Just too agressive and it looks like a screaming car
@ProductReviewCars
9 ай бұрын
So strange. Because I'm the complete opposite.
@wills3491
9 ай бұрын
I bought the brz. It looks better than the gr86.
@leisaben
7 ай бұрын
Agreed he’s like oh the 86 can have a red interior and my brz came with a better looking red and black interior stock anyway lol
@katlegokomane3385
7 ай бұрын
The brz looks happy and I'm all for it
@peterg2345
5 ай бұрын
That was my primary choice. That and that Toyota didn't even want to talk to me. Plus WR Pearl Blue is THE colour for this car.
@bushgnome
3 ай бұрын
I like both but I'm team 86. Imo The 86 looks far sexier (if that's even a word)
@AstroZombie1
3 ай бұрын
@@peterg2345 Plus they have the TS trim! I'd def get that if I get it brand new.
@severe28
6 ай бұрын
Actually like the BRZ interior more.🤷🏽♂️
@ProductReviewCars
6 ай бұрын
Valid take
@_Ryder
10 ай бұрын
Wtf over here in US no red and black until tureno comes out which I’m waiting to buy I hope this December can’t wait for a 86 no more literally my dream car since I was 13
@savage3942
Ай бұрын
You realize people are gonna go aftermarket for suspension regardless
@savage3942
Ай бұрын
And body kits are a thing too. Soo really your points are invalid
@Its_takaa
10 ай бұрын
My gr86 didn’t have a black and red interior option
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
😢
@Burningdaylighter
10 ай бұрын
Went from saying br Z to seconds after br ZED ☠️
@hirzaahmadmutahari6987
4 ай бұрын
wait gr86 didn't have spare tire? really?
@DaManCave123
2 ай бұрын
this car is an amazing second car, but hyundai elantra n has the makings of a great first car, with 4 seats, practicality like heated seats, moonroof and obviously, fun! (it also has ambient lighting just saying)
@major.raytron
8 ай бұрын
I think the red interior is not available on right hand drive. That sucks.
@elieberro5731
10 ай бұрын
Let me list facts the brz is more stable and is a better handling car just get the gr86 engine tune and front bumper for it and your good
@who_am_you
2 ай бұрын
My brz did not come with a spare, plus all the parts to change the spare are where the spare goes
@user-wq4de3st4m
2 ай бұрын
what is Rate Limit Exceeded Twitter
@J.R.F.23
3 ай бұрын
One big reason why I would pick the BRZ (and did) over a GR86. Is because it’s a Subaru motor; if you need repairs on the engine… a Subaru mechanic specializes in boxer motors; a Toyota mechanic does not! Having a Toyota mechanic working on a Subaru motor is like having a knee surgeon, working on your spine.
@EclipseLmao
Ай бұрын
miata is the better pick 🗣️
@z32luvr
Ай бұрын
S2000 is way better but you can’t buy brand new.
@EclipseLmao
Ай бұрын
@@z32luvr I didn't mention that cz they don't make em any more lol, in the new budget jdm coupe scene miata takes it 🗣️
@hondacar
3 ай бұрын
I heard that the ride on the BRZ is more compliant than the GR86.
@Xj900_24
25 күн бұрын
It is. The GR86 is more stiff.
@BrandonAaskov
Ай бұрын
“I’m going to pick the track-inspired sports car that has the nicer interior. Helps with go fast.”
@loneokami6560
10 ай бұрын
In Europe the GR86 has an beautiful light blue color
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
I’m jealous
@Torboy124
10 ай бұрын
And Canada
@theodoresmith4371
9 ай бұрын
In America also
@redbone971
2 ай бұрын
I have the light blue one in the US
@guesswho4327
7 ай бұрын
I still dont understand why there would be a Subaru motor in a Toyota car. It's like a BMW motor in the new Supras.
@Xj900_24
25 күн бұрын
Economics. Also Toyota is an owner of Subaru.
@dystopia-usa
7 ай бұрын
The white/red lights/housings mounted at the lower rear between the tailpipes look cheap/tacky IMO.
@cyberwyvern6499
10 ай бұрын
My brz has the black and red interior
@123parallax
4 күн бұрын
absolutely identical car other than the logo and some very minor differences in tuning. with toyota markups, crappy customer service, and no way to custom order, choosing brz over 86 is a no-brainer.
@agustinurbano
10 ай бұрын
I had 3 warranty covered rod knocks with an FRS but these cars are fuuuuuun and they break necks stock tbh, great daily I got a 2019 86 TRD special edition now, i love it and the last guy put a loud ass catted exhaust + kn filter + 91 octane from Shell + granny shift or downshift and it might pop and bang real nice lol When it blows up eventually I’m definitely gonna want a Honda or Toyota motor + tranny swap on the considerably low vs about $8,000 from Subaru
@agustinurbano
10 ай бұрын
It was listed for like $17999 salvaged, 51k miles, vs about $30k with 20k in late 2022
@user-sk4wf3ve6z
10 ай бұрын
The engine won't blow up if you just keep it well maintained,the only dodgy ones were the 2013/14 models.i have a 2015 with over 150k miles and I don't drive it sensibly haha
@agustinurbano
10 ай бұрын
Oh yee! I had the 2013 one with the recall. It was driving better than ever before Toyota worked on it, then they were liable and under warranty for 3 rod knocks within like 5 months. got a refund on it so it was basically free. I felt sponsored. Good times lololol @@user-sk4wf3ve6z
@caribbeangtr8077
2 ай бұрын
Doesnt the rear suspension on the GR86 use better parts like the control arms etc?
@ProductReviewCars
2 ай бұрын
So I’ve heard
@devinw6332
10 ай бұрын
Wait.. isn’t stiffer better for getting sideways/drifting..?
@dirkvantroyen9170
8 ай бұрын
I was confused by that too, I think he meant to say that the GR86 is stiffer (which it is)
@sydneyNemesis101
8 ай бұрын
think he got mixed up lol
@Wayfaringmusician
7 ай бұрын
He got mixed up. The GR is stiffer in the rear and more soft in the front than the BRZ. The trade off is the BRZ is slightly slower through cornering but grips the track better. The BRZ is also a more comfortable daily. I drove both and ended up with the BRZ. Love it. Just need to unfxxck the oil system.
@tye595
Ай бұрын
That tired boxer. I know there's heaps of people who love them, but I think they're an old dated engine that are shit to work on. + gravity it begging it to have an oil leak with those cylinder heads
@CorneliusRushtie
Ай бұрын
Great hairdressers car like the celica once was
@InfoumusMOBB
20 күн бұрын
I 100% agree. 86 does look better
@ninjaita1694
10 ай бұрын
For newer ones you gotta get the gr86, the gt86 (2020 or less I think) looks worse then the older brz
@rlcs_ants5803
5 ай бұрын
How much is it?
@user-io5ol4vg6e
3 ай бұрын
Only bad thing about this cars is they are slow af, I have a 2017 86 and it’s fun to drive but too slow, that’s the only bad thing about it imo
@WolFiendx
10 ай бұрын
my brz has a black and red interior whatchu smokin?
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
can't get a black and red interior like this on the new BRZ in Australia
@d8o8m8
3 ай бұрын
In the uk it’s an easy choice because Toyota does 10 warranty.
@bushgnome
3 ай бұрын
#1 IT LOOKS WAAAAY BETTER than the BRZ. But then again, I also really dislike the way the new WRX looks also. Like feminine subaru in the front, truck or suv on the side and straight honda civic in the rear.
@Moondoggy1941
2 ай бұрын
Funny I love the color blue and I found the Toyota has a better blue than Subaru's blue, and I love the blue on the WRX.
@alecwright5491
5 ай бұрын
subaru did not give me a spare for my 22 brz
@Kuldeepsingh-te9uc
9 ай бұрын
Subaru Brz 🎉
@malcolmdbz
6 ай бұрын
He's wrong, us subie gen 2's didn't get spares either. We got a bottle of fix a flat and a good luck letter
@ProductReviewCars
6 ай бұрын
There's defs a spare in the 2023 BRZ...we review cars in Aus so might be different in other markets
@SanusiAdewale
Ай бұрын
1 week 1 girlfriend. Nice plate number
@Mukbang-w3v
7 ай бұрын
How much GR86 2024?
@MrNotoa
Ай бұрын
Toyota did the fuel injection on the motor because Subaru doesn’t know how to do it, so the motor is not all Subaru
@shredblue8536
7 күн бұрын
Who’s Zed?
@momane8434
10 ай бұрын
It’s the same car 🤷♂️
@ProductReviewCars
10 ай бұрын
marginally different
@zaidibk69
2 ай бұрын
GR 86 with a GR Yaris engine - that would be ideal!
@ProductReviewCars
2 ай бұрын
That's the next one!
@uidr
2 ай бұрын
Never buy brand new car buy used ones they drop in value soo fast.
@Basil-YT-
6 ай бұрын
Gr86 has the blue. It’s trueno blue and there’s an orange
@Verztex
10 ай бұрын
My cousin has this car, it's literally the dame thing
@Ivanmx5_
10 ай бұрын
I refuse to buy a car that another manufacture makes . Like imagine you have one of these two and people constantly assume it’s the other brands 🤦🏽♂️
@subiesnacks8446
10 ай бұрын
What? Thats makes no sense. I assume you struggle to find a car to drive that isnt "tainted" by some other product? Seeing as most cars are something else nowadays.....i guess you always got tesla.
@partnah2887
9 ай бұрын
no logic here, keep scrolling
@Ivanmx5_
9 ай бұрын
@@subiesnacks8446 i wouldn’t take a Tesla even if Elon musk himself gave it to me . Tell me how any of these 3 are any different from each other . They’re all dog water and get gapped by nd2 Miata’s .
@Ivanmx5_
9 ай бұрын
@@partnah2887 cry about it 🎻
@buss1205
8 ай бұрын
@@Ivanmx5_ "dog water" yea bro u gotta be like 10 years old tops, you dont understand anything about the car world lmao
@EA300_
Ай бұрын
Id rather get a Supra
@Shark10914
7 ай бұрын
It’s the same
@Vorrimade
9 ай бұрын
perhaps an unpopular opinion but I much prefer the old GT86 / BRZ design its so iconic
@ProductReviewCars
9 ай бұрын
that's fair
@ItsChris_tixn
3 күн бұрын
I would personally buy a bmw 228i for the same price and stage 2 it and it would have 300-400 horsepower, moral of the story BMW is more tunable
@WileyO
6 ай бұрын
“Aggressive look”
@speedfreakwrx5956
9 ай бұрын
No spare tire in the BRZ! Where would they even put it?
@BRZTrackDays
7 ай бұрын
I believe he said no spare of the Toyota GR86. BRZ does come with a full size spare
@speedfreakwrx5956
7 ай бұрын
@@BRZTrackDaysI have a 2023 and it does not have any spare tire! Only a fix a flat kit.
@mikegood25
3 ай бұрын
Me, I wouldn't really care, they're the same car anyway
@ItzEggWard
2 ай бұрын
Ngl thought the GR86 looks a bit like a mk5 Supra
@GoldRaven-oe4by
6 ай бұрын
British people be like WXY"Zed"
@ProductReviewCars
6 ай бұрын
lmao
@taufiknm6062
7 ай бұрын
In my country gr86 only sell in automatic transmition not manual
@nickjacobsss
2 ай бұрын
tbh this generation I think the brz has a SIGNIFICANTLY better looking front end, the 86 sharp edges look very cheap (to me)
@user-fye8j8
8 күн бұрын
RTV problem is not solved, just take a look
@Nogitsune_Yako
6 ай бұрын
Why they didn't use same engine as 370z...
@Willbertoslackbold
9 ай бұрын
Man people are going to regret the red interior. It’s going to date the car so much in a few years. 😂
@ProductReviewCars
9 ай бұрын
Defs not. Looks great on old Hondas and Ferraris, looks great here
@Ali-yj6pl
9 ай бұрын
That red interior adds extra 5 horse powers! 😂
@paulklp8262
9 ай бұрын
Black is so boring
@hiro.exe_
16 күн бұрын
I couldn't decide so i made a but more money and got a m4comp xdrive
@bombaklava2802
9 ай бұрын
Aren’t they the same car
@GGsGrave
16 күн бұрын
I got the BRZ there is NOT a spare in the back.
@freespeach99
2 ай бұрын
The reasons have nothing to do with performance, handling driver centric design … just looks … LOL
@Ayyuna_chan
4 ай бұрын
i think the 1st Gen BRZ is the most beautiful car ever built in the entire world and even tho Gen 2 looks not as good I'd still prefer it over GR86. But both are such beautiful cars, BRZ/GR86/GT86/FR-S are all of them so beautiful.
@MATALOMUSIC
3 ай бұрын
most beautiful car ever???
@creepynutsrl
3 ай бұрын
*most beautiful budget car
@Ayyuna_chan
3 ай бұрын
@@creepynutsrl yeah the most beautiful affordable car for an average person 😅
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