Chris, I'm running the Omada in a heavy use environment. 5 - EAP225, 2- TL-SG2008P, 1- TL-R605, and the OC200 controller. Not running mesh mode all hardwired, with switches fed by fiber. Its rock solid with around 55 Clients that use 60-70 percent of available bandwidth continuously. Router runs hard with 43% CPU Use and overall gateway load is averaging in the high 50%. Main reason for choosing TP-Link was price and easy product availability. In the past 3.5 months have had firmware updates so it being upgraded. I took a chance and can say im highly pleased and it was the correct choice for me. One note for people to read the recommended install practices on the R605 in the support area. If you choose to use a different Ip addressing range than the standard that is on the OC200 you might not be able to re-Adopt the router is it does a power reset. It's a firmware bug that is a real pain. I got over easy because I had a backup of the configuration via the OC200 and a thumb drive. So, just reset back to known good configuration. That has been to only issue in almost 4 months. Added security is with a Firewalla Gold.
@vincenttu3330
3 жыл бұрын
A quick tip if you want to change the IP of the router and your OC200 is in your subnet. The default DHCP lease is 120 minutes which means your OC200 will be available again after 2 hours :) If you want to shorter the wait time, you can change the DHCP lease time before you change the router IP.
@ekjellgren
3 жыл бұрын
So your internet is dubbel NAT:ed?
@wscholze
3 жыл бұрын
What's the throughput of the r605? Can it handle a full Gigabit up and down at the same time?
@williambryce8527
3 жыл бұрын
@@ekjellgren Nope, only the 605 is doing routing. The Firewalla gold in running man in the middle.
@christophhaug
3 жыл бұрын
Japp, can confirm the bug/design flaw of the controller's default network not being editable from the start Apparently TP-Link is planning to change that, but in the mean time, here is my workaround: www.reddit.com/r/TPLink_Omada/comments/mi69sn/eap235wall_fails_to_adopt/?
@RocknR00ster
Жыл бұрын
I just completely rebuilt my outdated home lab with all TP Link Omada hardware and it has been the best experience I've had with designing and implementing vlans, mesh network, VPN, secure networks, etc.. Hands down I highly recommend this as an affordable way of getting enterprise level networking in a home environment.
@ridinghigh2797
2 жыл бұрын
Just setup my First Omada Network. 2FA is now part of the setup. I Love how easy it is to configure if your already familiar with Ubiquity’s configuration. Very similar. If you miss the 2FA... Login to your cloud account, and Click Security on the left. The 2FA Links to your Google Authenticator App Hope this puts people at ease, and gives people confidence in TP-Links commitment to security. I am impressed so far.
@LAWRENCESYSTEMS
3 жыл бұрын
Good video and good value comparison to the UniFi product line.
@darrenjlobb
3 жыл бұрын
Not meaning to point out the obvious (And I am still watching the video so not sure if Chris mensions later in the video!) but.... Surely this is just a re-skinned UniFi controller, albeit an older version? It literally looks identical? Can only assume UBNT have sold them the software to use for themselves.... Wonder if anyone has hacked the devices to run unifi firmware, as imagine there all very similer inside also! Could save a few £££!
@strikesbac
3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenjlobb it’s possible I guess, the current Omada software (v4) is essentially a Unifi clone. The previous version (v3) was for WiFi only devices and was completely different.
@guffy2339
3 жыл бұрын
I think the UI layout is similar in the industry....have you looked at Meraki? Cisco's new CBS switches?
@OuchMySpleen
3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see if they added some features unifi still doesn't do like multiple wan ips. Good to see the competition regardless, hopefully they do and it will kick unifi in the rear given how long they've put it off.
@darrenjlobb
3 жыл бұрын
@@guffy2339 I know what your saying...But seriously, this is literally near enough identical...every list is in the same order, has 99.9% the same identical options... It surely has to be UniFi underneath?! Not to mention some products...There outdoor AP's are literally a direct copy of a UBNT product with slightly different casing, along with the in wall AP's? ??
@invictuslegend4405
3 жыл бұрын
An opinion form a systems guy: I tested Ubiquity, Ruckus R610 and TP link Omada (all 802.11ac) access points in a large residential setting (4 AP mesh). Each ran for about 30 days in the same environment for proper evaluation. The best value and performance was TP link, the lowest performer was Ruckus R610! Just a data point from an experimenter. TP link's latest software updates are making it only better.
@craig4
3 жыл бұрын
It’s exciting to see some real competition to UniFi. As always competition is good for consumers.
@VBIEDdriver
3 жыл бұрын
maybe TP Link will keep stuff in stock too, lol!
@craig4
3 жыл бұрын
@@VBIEDdriver this! I was lucky to get a U6-LR back in January, while most still are waiting.
@dasGieltjE
3 жыл бұрын
There should be a mayor software/firmware upgrade next month, which should include 5ghz DFS channels in europe and some missing advanced features like QoS and 2FA (they even said to be working on TLS PEAP with the inbuild radius server). Would not call it fully featured without these upgrades yet. Had a few devices to review myself and had a good chance to talk to the developers, it seems they are going big on this (also having a decent support instead of a forum with more unanswered problems than answered seems to be nice). The portal is really cool, the preview actually gives a pretty good preview of what you have configured. Please review the changes after 4.3 has been released, should be a big upgrade.
@PawelTomal
3 жыл бұрын
The support is hit'n'miss, I've been trying to get some answers re: remote sites on one OC200 and the FAQ alongside the replies are sketchy, maybe you could help? I work for an NGO so every little help is great ;-)
@al3x88
3 жыл бұрын
That dashboard looks very similar to something I've already seen :)
@mikahe69
3 жыл бұрын
I started with Omada controller v3.2 with wifi APs only and actually liked it more, because it didn't show non-existing device types such as routers and switches like v4.x does.
@FranckEhret
3 жыл бұрын
Said myself exactly the same: OMG, did they hire former Ubiquiti engineers??? 😁
@ScottCarrPhoto
3 жыл бұрын
I run TP-Link switches and AP's. 5 switches, 8 AP's. (2) EAP225 outdoor and (6) EAP225 & EAP245 inside. Also use the OC200 controller. All of that hardware just runs. And runs. Performance is fine -- typically can get upwards of 500Mbps on wifi using 5Ghz if I run speed tests. But I also don't sit and run speed tests constantly. I value actual day-to-day use and reliability over dynamic benchmark tests. I don't have the need to get the newer AP's since general use with the AP's I have work just fine. Keep up the great videos.
@williambryce8527
3 жыл бұрын
I concur! Same results that I am seeing with an almost identical setup. I really like it and its rock solid.
@brandonprice9986
3 жыл бұрын
TP-Link is one of those companies where I never seek out their products but whenever I've ended up using them I've never been disappointed. Their stuff doesn't blow you away but it works well for what you pay for it. I'm just happy it doesn't seem like they force you to have a cloud account login to set up their equipment...yet.
@craigb5752
Жыл бұрын
Agree totally. TP looks great price-wise but in the end I've been disappointed in their wired products.
@portberl4763
3 жыл бұрын
A great thanks! I’ve been using OMADA system for about 2 years and I can’t find any videos that give more detail on the system and the comparison with UniFi A great great contribution buddy 👍
@davidanderson7695
3 жыл бұрын
We have 11 (plus 1 spare) TP-Link EAP 225-Outdoor APs here on our campus. They're set up in mesh mode to connect buildings together. They work fine. We're using the latest 3.x version of the controller. Oddly enough, it DOES have the scaling and approximate range markers that the newer version lacks.
@tabaghdissar
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best video's. I think SD is the future for everything and not just networking. Creating video's like these will increase the competition in SDN which is better for us. One thing i noticed is that tp link cannot be rack mounted, maybe there are brackets that chris didn't install.
@williambryce8527
3 жыл бұрын
I used racking brackets from Print3DSteve off of etsy. Awesome products.
@mikedooley1685
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Just a heads up if you didn't already know. Omada portal and other areas now has 2 factor security for the login etc. Much happier to use this, now it has 2 factor. Mainly switch or router Omada used with unifi or Aruba APs. Simple and cheap. Regards Mike UK.
@franciscollingwood7372
3 жыл бұрын
I use & have used both TP-Link's consumer & SOHO routers and unmanaged switches. Lack of patching & early EOL appeared to be an issue, certainly with their consumer-grade gear. I've moved to different brands for routers & managed switches, purely because of this worry. Thanks for your Ubiquiti & VOIP-related content: good job.
@apalrd8588
3 жыл бұрын
I have a full network of TP-Link APs (EAP225, EAP235-Wall, EAP225-Outdoor) at home (but not their switches or router). I am using the older TP-Link V3 controller (which only supports APs). Everything works as expected, I'm pleased with the coverage, Wifi stability, and the controller. I haven't tried the Wifi 6 APs, so no comment on that.
@AaronZufall
3 жыл бұрын
How long have you had all that set up?
@timvener3723
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to have the controller running to keep the AP's alive? Or can I set them up and unplug and be gone?
@apalrd8588
3 жыл бұрын
I've had two EAP225's since 2017, the controller (software) and EAP225-Outdoor since 2019, and the EAP235-Wall is new. The APs keep their configuration without the controller, but I don't normally run without the controller software. The EAP devices can also run stand-alone, but switching between controller mode and stand-alone mode factory resets the device (at least with the v3 controller). I ran them in standalone mode for a few years before I had enough to make setting up a permanent controller worth it.
@pleusinarene2107
3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for sharing. Just one question! Is it possible to adopt tplink AP that are in different subnets using a third party switch like ubiquiti?
@sygad1
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, very detailed and very timely. Can't quite get over the AP though, I would need to structurally strengthen my house before I mounted that on the ceiling ;-)
@yungkiller
3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a Unifi Dream Machine replacing Untangle Firewall and Asus Router. I did not like the new interface for Unifi, but I was new and Have only used Unifi on Server Controllers for simple tasks. Long story short I went back to untangle and purchased the Omada controller and two AP's I am HAPPY so far so good! also plan on purchasing CPE's but hope they decide to add these to the Omada line SOON!!!! Very simple interface and VLANs work like a dream for me!
@hypercarspottinggr
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, omada(ομάδα) means team in Greek
@ewolam
3 ай бұрын
Omada sounds like "Oh, mother !" to me.
@Lennen-N-Motion
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the in-depth look at TP-Links Omada software and how it marries to TP-Links various hardware. In my business I've used both TP-Link and Ubiquity for years My choice to use either comes down to, can I get the equipment. Lately I have been forced to purchase routers, switches, AP's, etc from whichever vendor has the product in-stock. I've even had to mix and match LAN equipment just to keep a customer going. I would like to build out a network using one vendor, management is going to be much cleaner and simpler. But will supply chain issues, that's not alway an option.
@mauroratto4620
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this overview . It helped me to make a decision, i have been using the TP Link Deco lately for small solutiones and i am impressed on how well they are working so far.
@AA-yj3id
3 жыл бұрын
POE SCHEDULE is a much-needed feature! I hope Ubiquiti will implement this feature too.
@alanbradford6128
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Great video. (You don't babble). Keep up the fantastic job you do!
@coreyverisario6570
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job trying to explain all the items that are better than UI. (Read as everything you say was better than the UI programming) if TP link is serious about this. Thank God we finally have something else than UI.
@TristanBanwell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - we're extending our farm network, all TP Link Omada gear, and not a lot of knowledge. This video was super helpful.
@gregalgarin-marquez278
3 жыл бұрын
Based on this vid, I still pick Ubiquiti with TP-Link a near-close second but... Yeesh, those access points need some serious makeover...
@briannebeker2119
3 жыл бұрын
I have used TP-Link in the past and was very happy with it in general. TP-Link certainly beat other consumer brands in stability. When it was time to upgrade however TP-Link fell begin for years, it is good to see they are competing again. But even on that front I am now moving to 10G ethernet and TP-Link is once again not there. My Ubiquiti gear just always works without any babysitting. The wireless access point in particular just give me a solid connection which is not the experience I have with any other consumer level access points. But Ubiquiti certainly is easy to beat on price.
@johnpoldo8817
3 жыл бұрын
Our company has installed over a thousand TPlink WiFi devices and under 500 Ubiquiti. We make very little money on Ubiquiti because of service issues. Frequent UniFi controller updates cause the network to fail. Maybe we should have used cloud-keys. Whenever a different field tech tries to implement an update, adoption often fails. Surely it is operator error, but we don't know where to get proper training. YT training hasn't worked. On the other hand, we have been very successful with Omada , using the OC200 controller, and EAP245 APs. No adoption problems here and TPlink support is much better than Ubiquiti. Since we provide Internet to condominiums, time-shares, and resorts, APs are a bad choice and WiFi routers help connect a private WiFi printer. Our typical customer might have 10 devices. For a 100 unit building, over 1000 addresses and a very robust gateway (class B) is needed when implementing APs. But if clients are connected to a WiFi router, gateway is much simpler and WiFi printer easy. I love the Omada controller cloud access. You can see how many clients per AP, traffic volume per AP, most active AP & client, and much more. We also get a push alert when an AP goes down.
@wscholze
3 жыл бұрын
Would the r605 handle 1000 devices?
@wampler11
3 жыл бұрын
Been using a couple Omada EAP245's for the past year or so along w/ the software controller and it's been rock solid. Just added one of their SDN switches now that I moved to a new house and so far I've been impressed. For a home user, TP-link is offering some serious bang for your buck.
@digitalsquaretn
3 жыл бұрын
Been switching our clients off of UniFi and moving to Omada. It's been fantastic.
@El3andro
3 жыл бұрын
What was your motivation for the migration and what's your experience with Omada (compared to Unifi)?
@mowomedia4801
3 жыл бұрын
What about security cams?
@pleusinarene2107
3 жыл бұрын
Hello! I have been trying to do the same. Thanks for sharing. Just one question! Is it possible to adopt tplink AP that are in different subnets using a third party switch like ubiquiti?
@digitalsquaretn
3 жыл бұрын
@@El3andro cost mostly. We needed a lower cost AP for a client and tried these and have been rolling it out since. The controller is very much unifi esque. My one gripe is the firmware updates have to be done manually rather than automatic
@digitalsquaretn
3 жыл бұрын
@@mowomedia4801 couldn't tell you
@jeffreygoodsell7849
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Personnaly we use TP-Link Products where only 1 ou 2 AP's are needed because they are easy ton configure via web interface and don't require special software / APPS or equipment. Those are clients are often on the lower budge side of things too
@winger46146
3 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of Tp Link, had an EAP 330 and upgraded to the 660HD and it's a beast!
@SvendHst
3 жыл бұрын
What is the performance?
@winger46146
3 жыл бұрын
@@SvendHst Best i've seen on my iphone 11 pro was 970Mbps x 660Mbps
@connclissmann6514
3 жыл бұрын
Great introduction to this range. I have long used TP-Link products and liked them, but this range not yet in wide circulation in Europe. I will look out for them and I would be curious of the Omada controller would recognise the older TP Link managed switches, with the latest firmware. Anyone had experience with that?
@sahilagar
3 жыл бұрын
Get the software controller and try adopting?
@connclissmann6514
3 жыл бұрын
@@sahilagar Agree that this would work - I was taking the "quick fix" and asking if anyone had tried it already. (Call me lazy,...:-) )
@61JWolf
2 жыл бұрын
People should know that TP-Link will not ship out a replacement device under warranty unless you pay to ship the defective device to them first.
@davem3564
3 жыл бұрын
Great timing Chris, I hope UniFi watches this
@ValorHeart
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome features: Network bandwidth limitation (not per client in the network), Captive portal (Unifi's one sucks), POE Scheduler!!
@noahwitt5902
3 жыл бұрын
Lets Hope Unifi copies those features. Competition is good.
@El3andro
3 жыл бұрын
The missing Network bandwidth limitation of unifi is the reason why I'm not using their routers. Would be great if they would add this. Poe scheduler would be awesome as well!
@PawelTomal
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Small correction on your pricing: you can't compare IW EAP225 with UAP-IW-HD - the first is only 100Mbps on PoE/LAN and you can see it on the map in Omada (amber line). I would replace them with TP-Link EAP-235-IW (&100) vs UAP-AC-IW ($105 - not HD version), then your budget is still $175 in favour of TP-Link. On the last note, Site-to-Site VPN is not that easy as Unifi and I hope TYP-Link will work on 'remote adoption' because adopting devices to a remote site are super hard :-(
@FernandoC
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank You! TP-Link totally sucked when I had to call them a couple days ago. The person asked me what country I was calling from and I had a really hard understanding them. I would expect them to know where I was calling from. They basically just pointed me to the FAQ and the information I needed was not there.
@brois841
3 жыл бұрын
Two points: 1. The difference in size of AP's probably has to do with the size of antennas/gain. The U6-LR is a beast in size as well. I think speed is relevant to us prosumers, but in a business setting it's total supported devices/throughput. (That's the excuse we used to make for Ubiquity when it didn't fare well against competition ;)) 2. Even as you were showing the website, TP-Link actually gives you an 800-number to call. That alone puts it lightyears ahead of UniFi as far as support is concerned. Ever tried to chat with support, while also working on your network? That's always fun when you have to reboot or debug something. Anyway, from my perspective, I have UniFi gear. I love the aesthetics, but I wish they spent as much time on providing quality software - their firmware and management software is constantly riddled with bugs (one update completely locked me out and I had to factory reset). They need to have more multi-gig support. Every time they come out with new hardware there's always something missing. For example, U6-LR only having a gig connection is a joke. Most of their switches are 1gig, etc. For the premium they charge, they should offer top-end hardware. Support sucks!
@brois841
3 жыл бұрын
@@---GOD--- the chip isn't what adds to the size, 2x2's come in cell phones for example. It's the antennas and the EAP620 has the larger high gain antennas.
@eternaldrive
3 жыл бұрын
In the past I've deployed a lot of their equipment at home, for friends and family. Its always been very good for the price but from what I've seen they generally don't provide firmware updates for very long. Obviously this might be different for their business equipment or could have improved but its something to keep an eye on.
@itsmrpaddy
3 жыл бұрын
The size of that AP! :-O At a friends place, I installed a series of Ubiquiti UniFi products. Now I want to upgrade another friends place, and looking again at Ubiquiti UniFi ... And TP-Link Omada. The only think currently pushing me again towards Ubiquiti, is the damn size of that AP... Why does it have to be so amazingly big....
@dougle03
3 жыл бұрын
One of the routers greatest feature is upto 4 WAN connections that can be load balanced, not just failover. This is a game changer and something that Unifi does not do well at all... Yes you can setup routes for certain services to be bonded to specific WAN connections (Hosting for example). Give it 4 decent WAN's and do a speed test.... wow!
@leoingle
2 жыл бұрын
But what is the throughput on the TP-Link one, because the throughput on a USG sucks. It wouldn't even handle my 400MB cable modem connection.
@MikaelKKarlsson
3 жыл бұрын
Warranties differ quite a bit with Ubiquiti not giving more than one year if the product is not bought straight from their store. Just a factor that could make a big difference for some.
@linuxpc4me555
3 жыл бұрын
Tp-link tech support has been very easy to get and they worked hard to resolve any issue. Thanks for this great video. I agree the to-link AP is truly ubtrusive. However the cost difference is hard to ifnore
@GregThomson
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if TP-LINK spend a bit more time on software QA than Ubiquiti. It wouldn't be hard. Ubiquiti's latest controller is incredible buggy and in some places just doesn't function. I really do wish they would stop playing with the UI and just make stuff work.
@yramid6770
Жыл бұрын
I have decided to use Omada for my first network setup for a customer. It is actually for the preschool my ex works at. It sounds that I will have to completely setup their network since she told me that what they have is a hot mess. This will be mostly a wireless setup ( as far as I can tell from the description my ex told me). They have a few AIO pcs in their main office on wifi, a few check-in stations, and they provide wifi for their "Einstein" room for the kids to use.
@abbyck
3 жыл бұрын
I have two EAP245 V3 @ home. Using a docker image for armv7 to run the omada controller on an Orange Pi PC(Similar to Raspberry Pis). Though the docker images are not official, but maintained by mbently. They provide Omada Controller software only for x86-64.
@gmiranda01
3 жыл бұрын
I have a consideration with this company in terms of source code, its headquarters are outside the USA. They are good competition which the market needed. Excellent video thanks for your time.
@madprunes
3 жыл бұрын
HQ outside of USA is a big positive.
@gmiranda01
3 жыл бұрын
@@madprunes how is that true? could you explain?
@madprunes
3 жыл бұрын
@@gmiranda01 because US typically produces things the same or lesser quality than China but charges a much higher price, getting by on an outdated idea that USA relates to quality or greatness, they also often shout about China spying through devices and software yet are doing the same thing if not more so. I would back reputable Chinese products and companies over USA pretty much every time. But there are european countries I would rate over both.
@gmiranda01
3 жыл бұрын
@@madprunes Agree, I prefer the EU over both, however I do not risk buying overseas firmware.
@Orinthical
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris! Very informative and thorough video. Would love to see some throughput numbers and some comments on reliability of the 605 router, particularly in a dual-WAN failover LB configuration. Losing faith in the ERL3 after Ubiquiti's latest horrible firmware (v2.0.9-hotfix.1 as-of writing). Now having to reboot it every 12-24 hours now. Dual-WAN failover with VLANs is broken. Native VLAN never loses connectivity, but the routing tables for VLAN interfaces get jacked and lose connectivity. And how long have there been issues with dual-WAN? Years. Enough is enough. You listening, Ubiquiti? Stop trying to be Apple and go back to the years when your products were just rock-solid.
@ppetrix
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cris for all your work. Like the url filttering , and limit speed by device in guests, hope unifi will implement this.
@craigwilson147
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, TP-link Omada solution now comes with 2FA (from a cloud point of view). I have it enabled and it is working great!
@strikesbac
3 жыл бұрын
You should check out the EAP-245 vs the AC-AP-Pro. TP Links Wifi 6 offerings are weak as the moment. Can you do some performance testing of the R605? I’d be interested to see how it handled a decent connection with some rules and services enabled. TP Link Business forums are reasonably active and have active support staff answering questions.
@williambryce8527
3 жыл бұрын
R605 with 50ish hard users work it pretty hard. If you going to have a heavy network upgrade to the next Omada router.
@geraldh.8047
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that the EAP620 WiFi 6 access point is a proper 802.11ax device with support for AX also in the 2.4GHz band (which ubiquitys offerings do not currently support). Not sure if I could get approval to mount such an oversized and therefor slightly ugly device in many rooms, though 😀 The (5 GHz) AX performance benchmarks you showed were not impressive though....
@davidprinzing8059
3 жыл бұрын
How do you know that UBNT's Unifi line doesn't have AX in the 2.4Ghz band for their Wifi 6 products? I don't see anything in the specs or documentation of any of the devices that would lead me to that conclusion.
@philliphs
3 жыл бұрын
Looking at the controller, router, and switches, Omada seemed more cost effective. However, the $99 Unifi U6-Lite is an interesting proposition. It has great performance, WiFi 6 tech, and most importantly cheap. The cheapest WiFi 6 AP in TPlink lineup is $162. If we consider on bigger deployment say more than 5 APs, then Unifi is on par with Omada. The bigger the deployment is, U6-Lite makes more sense in term of costs. It's down to stability and feature I guess. Unifi used to be quite stable, but not lately. Omada also has POE scheduling.
@travelinzac
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty late to the party but something that caught my eye on the price comparison you gave was while routers and switches are cheaper, the 2x2 aps are more expensive compared to the equivalent Unifi ap. So when building out a deployment, it only takes 3 aps for that savings to be eaten up, and any deployment larger then that unifi actually becomes more cost effective. I'm sure this was strategic, make it cheap to buy in to the universe for small deployments and shift the expense to expansion. Still an impressive lineup from tplink.
@johncrisp5898
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an update to your comparison chart with current pricing and if possible the TP-Link EAP660 HD. I noticed pricing has come down on the Engenius products. Curious as to how much of a difference a 2.5G uplink might make on the newer 4x4 Wifi 6 AP's. Thanks for all you do, really love your channel.
@yourpalfranc
3 жыл бұрын
Well, all I can say is I wish I'd had this information a couple of months ago before I dropped a king's ransom in a bunch of Unifi gear. I'm not totally unhappy with it, but I kinda feel like I need a shower. I actually have a couple of TP-Link AP's and a couple of unmanaged switches, and I can say that my experience with their tech support has been pretty good. It's supported offshore but at least you can get somebody on the phone via a toll-free phone call, and like I said, all I have is some of their pre-Omada gear. We'll see how it goes. If the market for used Unifi gear doesn't get ruined by their attitude around the breach, there seems to be plenty of takers on eBay. Thanks, Chris, for shedding some great light on alternatives. ~Frank
@I-hypocrite-I
2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to add Omada to my product line that I install for customers, but man the size of the AP's is a killer...
@Martin-ot7xj
2 жыл бұрын
Hi there , it was very useful ,informative & easy to undestand tutorial video .thankyou for fully explination , i saw a lot of tutorial video about this product but your explination was amazing and your explination was complete. keep it up . thnx
@johndoit2472
3 жыл бұрын
I have both, and prefer the TP link, on performance it's about equal, but the Ubiquity has some erratic packet drops once in a while, that makes these hours of conf calls just a tad annoying like a 2 second freeze frame (maybe 3 times in a 1 hour call so nothing dramatic, but it irritates the hell out of me), none of that with the TP link.
@davidunwin7868
2 жыл бұрын
I've found all-in-one WiFi routers always die after a few years. I've just upgraded to a TP Link Omada set-up and I'm pretty happy with it so far! The EAP610 WiFi AP is vetted than my old router, because it comes with wifi6.
@LiamDavidson-hammed
Жыл бұрын
What Ive been a bit trouble with is that set side by side, the tp-link archer ac1900 had a better range then the eap225 outdoor, and people i had place it in a plastic box and made a do it yourself waterproof shelther for the archer. The only think is that there is no omada mumbojumbo with the archer, but still... just wanted to mentionned
@raindev88
2 жыл бұрын
with all the entry level ubiquitti products out of stock everywhere, this is a good alternative trying to run a home lab.
@jeppyfrost
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Great comparison! The end just sounded like an infomercial for UniFi. I will give it to them but I will be taking a closer look at TP-Link. I will toss a few dollars their way to see how I feel about them. If it sucks then I'll return / resale the items purchased from TP-Link and stick with UniFi.
@michaelsia1444
2 жыл бұрын
We have 2 TPLINK EAP225 AC1200 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Ceiling Mount Access Point running for more than 2 years already. It's very reliable.
@ccarcit
3 жыл бұрын
Been using Omada to manage our agency wifi for about a year. I tried the Ubiquiti solution for a minute, but Omada is light years beyond it in ease of use. My only complaint is that those of us using the software controller are forced to use NSSM as a kludge to get it running as a service. They at least have an install guide, but why is this not integrated into the installation?!? Anyway, solid product and the fact that the Cloud console is free is just bonus.
@dajian8888
3 жыл бұрын
For WiFi, most important thing is stability, I am surprised that this wasn't mentioned in the video. But thanks for the video, good coverage for sure.
@mikahe69
3 жыл бұрын
I've had one EAP225 and three EAP245's (Wifi 5) for 15 months and never seen any wifi issues. Uptime in EAP225 is now 118 days when it was last firmware updated. 245's have more recent firmware, update thus only 12 days currently. Btw. those are all in ethernet.
@GhanaIncorporated
3 жыл бұрын
Chris clearly stated that this is just an overview of the Omada controller features, not a deep dive into any of the hardware or individual controller features.
@Mdanemann
2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I have a lot invested in Ubiquiti but am not always happy. Mainly I have issues with the Cloudkey Gen2 device. Mine have had issues with connectivity and the drives fail (maybe not Ubiquiti's fault). Regardless, the biggest differentiator for me is Unifi Protect. It is integrated into the platform and can all be managed from the Cloudkey. TP-Link has some great, high def, low price cameras but they don't integrate like Protect does. So for now, staying with Ubiquiti Unifi. Thanks!
@PawelTomal
3 жыл бұрын
Geek fact, the coverage you've mentioned on the map, and the maps themselves were scalable in version 3 of the controller and I was sad to see it go with version 4, also upgrade to version 4 removed my floorplans :-(
@claytonstanley2416
3 жыл бұрын
I'm running a mix of TP-Link and Ubiquity products in a consumer leaning prosumer setup for a ranch property. TP-Link AC1750 routers, TP-Link 2.4GHz N300 and 5GHz N300s, and Ubiquity NSM2s. The AC1750 routers with openwrt installed on them are solid and cheap. The Ubiquity NSM2s are great. The 5GHz N300s from TP Link are fine. I've only had issues with the 2.4GHz N300s as one needed a reboot almost daily to keep from freezing. Of course could have been just a an isolated bad part. Also I seemed to have more miss keystrokes when remoting into a server with the N300s vs the NSM2s, perhaps that's because the NSM2s have slightly better antennas. OTOH the NSM2s are running solid but seem slightly slower for speed tests than the 2.4GHZ N300s, but both are above the bandwidth provided by my fixed wireless ISP so the reduced speed isn't an issue. I'm actually happy with running both together at the moment. Can't say I have a preference one over the other. Glad there's competition!
@eduardorivas363
3 жыл бұрын
Looks great. How stable is it? Most tp link SMB I have used was stable for a month and then weird stuff happens. I have both tp link and unifi networks currently running. They both have their faults. Tplink has throughput issues but support is ok. Unifi has configuration issues and has zero support.
@abbyck
3 жыл бұрын
Using couple of EAP 245s at home and around 50 at office. Been rock stable, no random reboots or anything
@abbyck
3 жыл бұрын
And for the support as you said, it's ok. At least there is some support. Had a problem with one device unable to connect with EAPs. They fixed it after some time of remote
@Deraco1
3 жыл бұрын
LOL This is a direct layout copy of Ubiquiti. I mean, yes it does make sense but was chuckling a little even when it came to the icons for the switch port status. I never really liked TP-Link I guess for the years of how cheap they look but am curious now how good the stuff is... Thanks Chris I did find however the model naming is like as of Eugenius which can be confusing if you just speaking model numbers to people. EAP (Eugenius Access Point), should of done something like TLAP-XXX
@bujorn
3 жыл бұрын
Great information Chris! My network comprises of TP-Link products and I think Omada will be a great addition in my network.
@briccimn
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! First gen of Omada products - and most of all software - were obscene!
@mark12.31
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the page on their site talking about cloud control mentions 2FA now so I guess they have added that, thankfully, in the year since this video debuted. Good to know.
@nm999999991
3 жыл бұрын
Good review. Couple of points, the EAP660HD than 620 is a better performer because of the WiFi6 4 x 4 ability. However... this AP points to one missing comment. With Comcast providing 1.2G internet, WiFI6 and StarLink providing much more bandwidth... a 1Gb Ethernet connector only can perform 880Mb throughput at the best test. Therefore, the SFP+ and 2.5G/10G Ethernet ports are required. TP-Link does NOT support these interfaces LAN or WAN in Omada even though they now have the EAP660HD which requires it. Ubiquiti does support these WAN and have the US-16-XG and US-Aggregation switches for WiFi6. Thanks again for EVERYTHING else you provided in this review.
@DaleOffret
3 жыл бұрын
True Anthony, routers and gateways available to consumer and prosumer markets max out at 1Gbe connections. Until the market demand is enough to warrant Ubiquity, TP-Link an others to have 2.5, 5 or 10Gb SFP+ connections, you'll need to create your own firewall. A custom firewall can be created with a modest, not slowest, home PC with the right motherboard expansion slots. At minimum you would need 2 ports either on the same card or two separate 1 port cards. 2.5Gb SFP+ go for $30 each on Amazon and need a x1 PCIe slot. 5Gb SFP+ cards are almost the same price as 10Gb SFP+ cards and not worth the effort. A single 10Gb SFP+ card is about $100 on Amazon and a 2 port about $210. Both require a x8 PCIe slot, so the video card slot would be the best choice. You'll need an operating system for the gateway. PfSense and OPNsense run from FreeBSD roots. This is the current FreeBSD hardware compatibility list. www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/hardware/ Each release has an updated list that is added to. Just make sure the SFP+ network cards / adapters you buy have a chipset that is on the list. Many people swear by PfSense, but I currently use OPNsense at home. I'm migrating to Omada so I don't have to managed my firewall, as much. Hopefully this helps you get to a point where you can do a speed test across a 2.5 or 10 SFP+ router/gateway at your home. Also, you'll have to buy SFP+ modules with CAT6a runs or an all in one terminated cable rated for 10Gb with the SFP+ modules already terminated (cheaper). Go for Intel SFP+ modules, if you can. I have never had compatibility or supported driver issues with them.
@RickThrelfall
2 жыл бұрын
I just went with tp-link; reason - I could not buy the Ubiquiti products that I wanted... and, as Brandon Price mentioned, tp-link stuff generally just works (or has for me) and there is no forced usage of cloud (which I actively despise when companies do this)
@damiexxi3163
5 ай бұрын
Please do an updated video...thanks
@vbhoj74
3 жыл бұрын
Looks very slick, and much more capabilities than Unifi! Copying dashboard layout makes it easier for tech guys to understand and configure the solution. Don't think it's complete copy & paste, as the features seems to be much more than Unifi. The oversize just kills it for me though, also have never relied on TP-Link. Had used their loadbalance router at home few years back and did not had a good experience with the same.
@ThePopolou
3 жыл бұрын
Ubiquiti, are you listening? ARE YOU LISTENING?
@callummcguire2460
2 жыл бұрын
I use the portal function for a guest network I have local users and vouchers enabled. You can set limits per voucher or user. I would prefer to have access to the codes and configure the portal through the app however it isn't too hard to navigate the web interface on mobile.
@ivanpelser5516
2 жыл бұрын
A comparison between the TP-link Omada and D-Link Nuclias will be great :)
@Transamws6prg
3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, but I would like to see a comparison with Netgear Insight products. I am looking at all three to upgrade my network.
@bb55555555
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing this too. I'm in the market for an alternative to unifi and this might be it
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
2 жыл бұрын
Based on the software features and logical structure, it looks like a couple Ubiquiti programmers are now working for TP-Link.
@brianwalsh1844
7 ай бұрын
Do you plan on doing an updated review of Omada with the new and smaller APs?
@captshadab
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Please make a video reviewing the wireless mesh of eap660hd with another and comparing their speed tests with the wired backhaul. Thank you
@michaelrogers9072
3 жыл бұрын
I giggled at the IoT Profile "IDIoT" @22:52.
@kosmicken
3 жыл бұрын
I have a single EAP-225 (not the wall plate version) running in my house. One of the main reasons I chose it over Ubiquiti, besides price, was the fact that is has a web interface. I like a system that has a controller available as an option, but is not absolutely required, as it is pretty unnecessary in a small system with only a couple of devices. Do all of these new TP-Link devices include web interfaces?
@clambros
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison .. One difference might be the availability of mGig (2.5G) in the TPlink product family. The EAP660HD offers mGIG uplinks & supporting switching. In theory, with WiFi 6, you could over-saturate the uplink of a WiFi 6 WAP (something you mentioned in another video). Thoughts ?? Something to consider ??
@Roedy_Coedy
3 жыл бұрын
"For security, Ubiquiti wins out at the moment" *Laughs in global data breach*
@bobcarpenter1551
3 жыл бұрын
Google this: "TP-Link Router Bug Lets Attackers Login Without Passwords" and "Hard Coded Password Sink Fleet of DSL Routers" (both are severe TP-Link flaws in their code) Perfect security is a unicorn. It's like saying "Ford/Chrysler/etc. will never have recalls on their vehicles." What is more important? What do they to to remediate it. Even Microsoft with over 30+ years of "code" experience? They still can't make perfect security. Data breaches, and hacks, are not an if, they are a "when." Definitely exciting to see movement in the prosumer space though. :)
@subashchaudhry660
2 жыл бұрын
I checked everything is good to download.
@justinf8904
3 жыл бұрын
Just need to add EAP660hd for review with it's 2.5G port with the 2.5G switch and I believe the eap225-wall is fast ethernet ports while eap235-wall is gigabit ports for $10 more
@jasonmeinhardt4631
3 жыл бұрын
I am looking at the TP-Link EAP660 HD | Omada WiFi 6 AX3600 and it has a 2.5gig ethernet port on it but I don't see a TP-Link POE 2.5gig switch. Do they make one?
@Cykstfc
3 жыл бұрын
For Omada/managed, TL-SG3210XHP-M2. Not widely available yet but the MSRP looks to be $350.
@crgr83
3 жыл бұрын
You saved my day. Thank you.
@Robert-vk5nu
3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the controller. There is a docker with the Omada controller in it for Unraid, wich runs on Linux. On the Omada homepage there are also Controller installation-files for both Windows and Linux.
@brucebondi6104
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I think you have done an amazing job explaining the programming of the GUI and all the offerings that Omanda has with their new platform. I have installed several systems already. The problem is, No one tells us how to separate the devices to the V-lans that you teach us how to set up. If I want to put all my IOT devices in a V-lan, I’m clueless. It seems it would be easy for a hard wired device, but not so easy with wireless.. Please advise. BRB
@huub991
3 жыл бұрын
You have read my mind, I'm just comparing the 2 systems. I made up my mind and go for the ubiquiti. Mainly because the TP link in wall access points do not support fast roaming 802.11r. (last time I checked) Also the ceiling access point is way too big for me. For the TP Link Omada there is also a docker container available to run it on a Nas.
@christophhaug
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can run the omada controller in a docker container. It works fine.
@EzzenzDK
Жыл бұрын
Great video - THANKS a lot for sharing
@jasonluong3862
3 жыл бұрын
It feels strange to see Chris with an old fashion whiteboard and marker.
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