Those antique packs are nothing short of beautiful. Kudos to you for finding and collecting them. How awesome, and I am envious! I note that there is no mention of one of today's basic frame chores - removing the load from the shoulders, and placing it on the hips. Shoulder straps being used for attachment and balance only. I can attest that in my younger days, when I didn't understand that concept and hung everything on my shoulders - I hurt, bad, a lot. Thanks Dave!
@wyattoneable
10 жыл бұрын
You could start your own museum with all the cool stuff you have. Thanks for bringing these packs to KZitem. I found this to be very interesting.
@DavidCanterbury
10 жыл бұрын
For those asking Tom Roycraft's name is actually spelled with an "A" not and "O" it is pronounced with an Ahh sound. Althought to us in the US that would seem to be Craft as in Crafting in Canada it is pronounced Ahh to sound like croft- Hope this helps for those confused, I know it was new info to me not long ago-
@draconis4403
10 жыл бұрын
Love the crickets in the back ground Dave!
@WilliamMyersmantisoutdoors
10 жыл бұрын
lol i have spelled it croft many times feeling pretty dumb right now
@RDM-fc6rd
10 жыл бұрын
Dave, I know you hear this all the time but your videos are the most helpful on you tube. Can't wait to see what you come up with. Looking forward to part two.
@timothyciarlette8250
10 жыл бұрын
That was awesome Dave. I really liked the history on packing devices. The frame and modular design is a great idea again. The potential in that design is enormous. Can't wait for the next part.
@richarddeszo1699
10 жыл бұрын
I was just researching this subject last night. Found some interesting examples ( Blades and Bushlore >>>diy and homemade gear >>> wooden pack frame). Especially interesting to me was the canoe chair/pack frame. I'm looking forward to part two. Thanks Dave
@bea14jake
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave for the video.You jolted my memory on using the stitcher.I used it to repair my moccasins.I am going to make a knife sheath with it.
@OKBushcraft
10 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Looking forward to the next.
@Spearfisher1970
10 жыл бұрын
Same. Great intro to the concept. I can see this going two ways - one from natural resources, and two from - as he stated - scrap wood... which I guess means wood from a mill.
@cdawson198600
10 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see what you come up with Dave.
@toerag572
10 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to part 2 of this. I hope it'll turn up soon. Love the videos, Thanks, Dave!
@TheHiddenWoodsmen
10 жыл бұрын
good to see that trapper nelson pack. glad you like it dave,
@kuribo1
9 жыл бұрын
This was actually absolutely fascinating.
@thomasliebreich3510
10 жыл бұрын
Great vid, as always. Very interesting, very inspiring! Let me add one thing, Ötzi was found on the border between Austria and Italy :-) Greetings from Austria/Vienna Thomas
@TNPviewer
10 жыл бұрын
Wow I had no idea how long external frames have been around that is crazy thanks Dave.
@JohnRobertson22
10 жыл бұрын
DAVE!!! Great to see ya man!! You've been so busy that i feel I haven't seen you in forever lol Great Vid!!!
@kiwigadgetboy
10 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Part 2!
@TheAmbientWarrior
7 жыл бұрын
Solid advice from Geralt of Rivia.
@kirkdustin5986
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for LIVING it brother!! Like an ole fellow brick layer use to tell me, "Son, you can't tell somebody something until you've been to the place"! Part two.....??? God bless all.
@LarsLondian
10 жыл бұрын
Great job on the background details, I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Take Care.
@connormyron.5366
10 жыл бұрын
nice video dave, looking forward to your next videos.
@Kigai11
10 жыл бұрын
Great video
@sheiladobbins585
10 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see what you come up with
@IronGinkgo
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, just a quick thought. I do tree work for a living, and use a ww2 swiss military rucksack to haul my gear. When I'm carrying a heavy load I always sit down to take the weight off my shoulders and remove the pack. Of course with that d-ring design you would still need to slip your arms out.
@cwsmith17
10 жыл бұрын
Really great vid. Please keep up the good work Dave
@jdenslinger
9 жыл бұрын
Is there a part 2? I'm not seeing it. I've been interested in this for quite a while and don't want to just spend a lot of money on a sub par commercially available pack without knowing what I can do on my own.
@daniele3378
10 жыл бұрын
nice dog!
@Atkrdu
10 жыл бұрын
Just had a thought about something you might want to do: Make your back able to turn into a saw frame or a bow of some sort. At least having the ability to carry saw blades or arrows directly in the frame shouldn't be too hard (especially if you're using metal or PVC pipe). If you're only using wood, I'd think it'd be fairly easy for someone to figure out how to make part of it into a bucksaw (maybe the sides are the top & bottom of the saw & one of the cross-pieces would make that middle piece).
@TheoSloat
10 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of one to carry a 5 gallon bucket with a gamma lid. It would be water proof and give you a seat when at your camp. My fat but needs a good seat.
@Atkrdu
10 жыл бұрын
Theodore Sloat There was a guy that did a video on making a backpack out of a garbage pail (the channel is The Backwoodsman"s Institute). Something like that might suit your fancy. Maybe a PVC frame like on whatever video Dave did on that with the bucket attached & done up like on the other video to make it a more useful pack?
@frediestclair6949
10 жыл бұрын
just made a modified roy craft frame cant wait to field test it . the bank line works good
@lastgameplay
10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, thanks Dave.
@MultiRusty111
9 жыл бұрын
Nice Whelen tent,Dave.
@johnlord8337
9 жыл бұрын
A possible modification to the Raycraft pack. Install a vertical inward bow limb, attached via leather strapping to the top angle. Cut the length to the cross bar. Cut bottom of limb with flat inward notch. Cut out a flat outward notch at the middle of the crossbar. Provides greater back support, and pack support. When putting down the pack on the ground, tilt out the limb, becoming a tripod support device. Keeps the pack upright, dry, and clean. Makes it cleaner, instead of laying on the ground, upside a dirty log or tree, or leaning onto a tent structure. Allows easier access to the pack, without having to hold the pack upright. Tripod design allows easier air drying of the pack, and allowing heat-and-air drying near a fire.
@geneingram1962
2 жыл бұрын
Hey good stuff David. The 3 steel rods on the Trapper Nelson look to me like possibly skewers, or connected together with a ring, to make a tripod for cook fire?
@NoogaNewb
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave. My son's orthodontist is a big collector of old kayaks, canoes, and outdoors gear and he has a trapper frame in his office for decoration. Thanks for letting me in on what it was exactly. I knew it was some sort of pack frame, but I had no idea it was that important. So, will SRO have a Trapper Nelson inspired pack in its future?
@GreaseStain
10 жыл бұрын
interesting, I started toying with this idea a few weeks ago. After doing some reading and looking around, I decided to give build my own pack frame a try for a little project. I haven' gonna past the doodling stage, but It'll be interesting for me to see what direction you'll go in. Some advice on matching Pack size to body size would be great info If you could share it. I was planing to more or less wing it, hahaha!
@oldvoljin
10 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see what ya come up with
@vanguard52
10 жыл бұрын
hi dave - they found ötzi between north and south-tyrol in the ötztal alps. that's where he got his name from...
@buschkrieger-tv3483
9 жыл бұрын
i like you traditional outfit and equipment- cooler than ultralight
@EatCarbs
10 жыл бұрын
I like using an external frame. Being a larger guy.. my sleep system has to fit .. not sure I'd have room if I stuffed it into an internal pack. Thanks for the video
@Atkrdu
10 жыл бұрын
Dave, would you mind doing a video on how to use a tumpline? Never seen it done & explained. I'd imagine it would have some risks & warning signs, would really like to know about how to do that one right.
@shadowstalker130666
9 жыл бұрын
I have a question, and please, anyone with a suggestion I'm all ears. I'm transitioning from more general bushcraft toward living history, 18th century style woods skills and gear. I've always used a bear bag for my food and such due to living in Wisconsin where bears and other critters getting at your food is always a concern. What would be a more historicly accurate means of food safety as far as critters big and small is concerned? Thanks.
@flamedrag18
10 жыл бұрын
never seen that alaskan frame before, definitely interesting. but simply having the straps as ropes and tucking them under the lower extensions where the rings go to make a waist strap as seen on the ozti pack or native pack frames would seen to be easier to handle, your thoughts?
@Vx777infonet
10 жыл бұрын
Like the history and types you show, I have been wanted to build a wood frame for awhile, difference? You do it, I just think about it, and have not done it, LOL Where do you get the energy man!!
@hawk2million
7 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. That trapper nelson pack, d'you reckon it has three stays so the owner could knock up a quick tripod for cooking when arriving at camp?
@Hojtong
10 жыл бұрын
Nick! When will part two come out?
@darknesslight378
10 жыл бұрын
Dave do you mind making a tutorial video about waxing the straps on the Duluth scout pack or any type of Duluth pack. Thanks
@hermannkateri2120
10 жыл бұрын
cool
@thanson77
10 жыл бұрын
I bet that extra stay was in there so the wearer could make an impromptu tripod for cooking. They do look small though.
@danluckins4071
10 жыл бұрын
I was thinking there could have been more stays at one time, to be used as tarp/tent pegs
@TheMts95
10 жыл бұрын
you should take a look at the Norwegian military backpack..
@wvoutdoorworld9885
10 жыл бұрын
Dave, I don't know but with 3 stays in that pack would it have been used as a spit or a cooker of dome kind
@munchh2007
10 жыл бұрын
Hows part 2 coming Dave?
@bushcraftchip
10 жыл бұрын
Tom Roycroft is the proper name.Great subject,love these short bits of info...
@thirstyralph6996
6 жыл бұрын
shit gerald, i like what you are doing now
@linklesstennessee2078
10 жыл бұрын
good video old linkless wants to see what you come up with
@seohiotrapper3618
10 жыл бұрын
I know at one point you had a Bull Pack Frame, did you ever use it in the field? What is your thoughts on it?
@jeffhundhauss6950
10 жыл бұрын
...just got one and love it so far. I put a chain saw, rope and a hookaroon on it and it was fine climbing up the mountain and through thick brush. . For a pack I put a condor3 on it and used the straps to atach to the frame with plenty of room still yet for a two blanket bed roll. This allowed for uninterupted access to the pack while on the frame, where as using rope to tie it down would be a bit of restriction to the contents of the Condor like Dave mentioned. The list of benifits to the Bullpac go on the more I use it.
@a_jim_so_dashing7664
5 жыл бұрын
Can someone please direct me to Part 2 of this video?
@SkyWagon2002
10 жыл бұрын
Could you show how to make the Roy croft frame?
@DavidCanterbury
10 жыл бұрын
Maxwell Salvatore Roycroft Pack Frame and Lashings Part 1
@RatdogDRB
8 жыл бұрын
Dave? The last frame shown (pack removes from frame), you mentioned it had a spare metal rod on one side. My question is, are those rods long enough for them to also be used as a tripod for one's small cooking fire?
@DarrenMalin
10 жыл бұрын
I like this, interesting history AND a interesting project , what not to like :o) two thumbs up .... thank you
@uzibeatle
8 жыл бұрын
Er, where is part 2???
@hermannkateri2120
10 жыл бұрын
What are some cheap ways to de-rust metal?
@TheHigherVoltage
10 жыл бұрын
WD-40 + Abrasive pad (steel wool, Scotsbrite pad, etc.)
@conawayjb
10 жыл бұрын
White vinegar works well
@flamedrag18
10 жыл бұрын
conawayjb I would also add scrubbing.
@capnfox4355
10 жыл бұрын
Naval Jelly
@Hondo782
10 жыл бұрын
conawayjb yes plus 1 on this I have gotten rust off old hammers and tools just like this just be sure to use gloves sometimes the white vinegar and the rust can get rough on the hands , good tip Conaway
@tomhuitema
10 жыл бұрын
Qui-Gon Jinn
@Ryan-ru4kl
10 жыл бұрын
am not trying to be mean be who cares what pack frame to use?
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