If you liked this interview, you'll also enjoy these: Luana Maroja: kzitem.info/news/bejne/25x_uIinrGZmpoosi=f5Fw1i1fusU4rubu Kathleen Stock: kzitem.info/news/bejne/o56N36NvoouCgXosi=qQEfXmO4k7S6ZJFx Kellie-Jay Keen: kzitem.infoxjSNtbKoLOk?si=c3WzMgnFYJEwypWn
@MargotSolanas
10 ай бұрын
Nothing he says is trustworthy. David Hayton was on the panel that introduced mixed sex toilets in UK schools, they are deeply unpopular with students and parents alike. He has not tried to correct this.
@maxi.7011
10 ай бұрын
Time to stop describing trans as “women”. They are male trans..the word women belongs only to biological women.
@pdxnikki1
10 ай бұрын
Peter, would you consider having a conversation with Abigail Favale, author of Genesis of Gender? Bonus: she's here in Oregon 😉
@drumstruck751
6 ай бұрын
why can't we just say everyone has an agender [(a as in origin not "just" 0)] and there is complete theory through to transections into transgenderism "to the other end".
@33greenleaf
4 ай бұрын
Matt Walsh routinely talks to people who do not agree with him. Did you even see “What is a Woman?”, or his appearance on Dr. Phil, or all the times he’s been on college campuses, or when he was on Joe Rogan. The topic you want to discuss with him may simply not be interesting to him. Insulting him as an ideologue was beneath you.
@AngelaHavey
10 ай бұрын
A man who has had his penis and testicle removed is still stronger than a woman. Putting such males in prison would still present a problem to females in a prison ( they still would be stronger in general than females). Males would still have advantages in many sports.
@Susanmugen
10 ай бұрын
Solution: require trans kids to go through preferred puberty only. Only one puberty, no advantages besides the higher IQ thing
@jcraw6332
10 ай бұрын
This is an example of how people who disagree about many things can talk about these disagreements in thoughtful manners. Great example for people.
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jujutrini8412
10 ай бұрын
They agreed on practically everything. 😂
@jcraw6332
10 ай бұрын
@@drpeterboghossian Years ago I read some of works of Marshall Rosenberg and his approaches to nonviolent communication…and it seems that your approach may be similar and complimentary. Anyways, I think that’s very fine company!
@adlernewman
10 ай бұрын
"I am attracted to my own body"- I thought it's called a paraphilia.
@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq
6 ай бұрын
I find this subject really intriguing. Debbie is great and it’s interesting hearing her different position and reasoning around her answers.
@adlernewman
6 ай бұрын
@@TraceyHenderson-ys2iq He is not great. He is a garden variety narcissistic pervert.
@Almostfallen
5 ай бұрын
It's called autogynephilia
@jacoblehrer4198
2 ай бұрын
She was correct in her explanation, but it's also called autogynephilia (a paraphilia), which is a relatively new term.
@adlernewman
2 ай бұрын
@@jacoblehrer4198 First of all, it is a "he". Secondly AGP has been known for ages- Blanchard was profiling these men as far as the 80s.
@MargotSolanas
10 ай бұрын
David Hayton was on the panel that introduced mixed sex toilets in UK schools, they are deeply unpopular with students and parents alike. He has not tried to correct this.
@tinahochstetler2189
10 ай бұрын
This comment should be pinned to the top of the page.
@thekaratekidpartii2169
10 ай бұрын
I don’t think this is true. Schools are required by law to have single sex toilets for all children over the age of 8. In fact, Hayton has criticised the fact that a significant minority of secondary schools (28%) were not maintaining single sex toilets.
@MargotSolanas
10 ай бұрын
@@thekaratekidpartii2169 it's well known and he's spoken about doing this. He's never retracted
@leont7956
10 ай бұрын
Debbie does not support those
@WooWoo-co4jf
7 ай бұрын
Karatekid, yes that's true, but it unfortunately stop some schools sort of sneaking them in & warning children and adults to not complain of they were bigots blah blah... Hayden has recently confessed to bring agp, sickening that colleagues and CHILDREN had starting roles in DHs ...I have lots of words I want to use but KZitem or cult members wouldn't like. I used to teach full time & I can tell you teachers can be particularly stupid! Once there was a staff room conversation about tomatoes having an expired best before date, they were saying don't eat them you could get good poisoning, you could d**! I settled the conversation in my usual 'don't be bloody stupid' forthright manner. Lol Back to the toilets, head teachers can be particularly sneaky!
@trevorcook3129
10 ай бұрын
AGP’s no to teaching kids. It makes them sexually aroused to be seen as a woman. Sorry, that means not focusing properly on teaching kids let alone anything else
@michmonty95
10 ай бұрын
What if you experience a sexual component in presenting as a woman in certain personal contexts but don’t bring it into the classroom?eg If you have long hair & implants but just wear something unisex and non distracting? It’s a completely different scenario than say wearing fetish gear or giant prosthetic breasts which is obviously inappropriate & distracting/confusing.Idk having an understanding & ability to teach physics is a valuable educational resource, I’d be more concerned about the skills of the teacher.
@theway5563
10 ай бұрын
Spot on comment. This teacher has a very sick and twisted fetish. They have a mental disorder & should not be around children. In essence, he becomes sexually aroused by children seeing hm as a female and calling him a female name.
@gisellemagraibhaigh8342
10 ай бұрын
Oh they're focused on the kids alright ...😡
@trevorcook3129
10 ай бұрын
@@gisellemagraibhaigh8342 once they allow consent for minors to transition sex then it’s over. Slippery slope as the Bible bashers said with homosexuality.
@TexasGrandma2010
10 ай бұрын
Still a male. Being a women is not a concept and is not complicated.
@ncorp2668
10 ай бұрын
In terms of Aye-Gee-Pee...a lot of this stuff greatly overlaps with massochism. That's why there's an obsession with the self. It's about the performance of a role that makes one feel like a seggs object, and therefore seggs-zual. I've talked to thousands of them. It's also very exhibi-shun-ist. The act of being perceived.
@shadowshatto
10 ай бұрын
WHy did you censor yourself so much, that was harder to read lol
@ncorp2668
10 ай бұрын
@@shadowshatto God...i wish i didn't have to, but KZitem censors basic language 😭
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
Good on you to point out the masochistic element. That is the part that pisses me off the most. All these weak, tepid, milquetoast fence-sitters who ignore that indulging AGP hurts AGP because AGP are self destructive. They are morally posturing: "I'm against gender ideology, but unlike you bigots, ."
@MargotSolanas
10 ай бұрын
The wolf smiles. David Hayton jokes about using women's spaces including the sleeping at a YWCA, wears his paraphilia to work as a teacher, has the children to call him 'Miss' and who was instrumental in bringing in measures to ensure boys could use girls' bathrooms at schools. Has "female"on his passport too. He's discussed how he gets se*ually excited to be called miss and "debbie" so you can judge how you feel about him using kids that way.
@janeharrington1757
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I feel sorry for Dave's wife.
@michaelstanwick9690
10 ай бұрын
@@janeharrington1757Do you mean "Debbie"? If so, here is an interview of Hayton's wife - admittedly from 4 years ago. kzitem.info/news/bejne/pKKDuGigpHt4kqQ
@amyskull7543
10 ай бұрын
@@janeharrington1757 theres a documentary about debbie hayton and his wife is on it. Hes still married or was as of the filming of the documentary. I couldnt get through it. Although I agree with *some* of debbie haytons thoughts on this matter, the look on his wifes face made me rethink how I felt about him. She looks absolutely destroyed and trapped. I dont know if thats the case it just seemed that way to me.
@fairislecat6413
10 ай бұрын
@@amyskull7543 The kids look totally embarrassed and traumatised too.
@amyskull7543
10 ай бұрын
@@fairislecat6413 I didnt get that far. I think that might break my heart.
@trevorcook3129
10 ай бұрын
Conflating gender with personality again
@LV-wl7ch
6 ай бұрын
Gender is a nonsense word. Sex is the word for male and female.
@awakened3651
10 ай бұрын
Taxpayers should never be forced to fund procedures that cause guaranteed harm. And currently what has been funded to be done must be funded to be undone when 'transitioners' eventually come to regret the choices that were facilitated and 'detransition', as if anyone can 'transition' in reality.
@catiapb1
10 ай бұрын
^^ This we are making biological healthy people into chronic ill people.
@Susanmugen
10 ай бұрын
2% regret rate. Top regret cited of that 2% is "choice of surgeon"
@-Mitra-
10 ай бұрын
@@Susanmugenlinks to several independent and unbiased studies on 2% regret rate, please?
@vir00
10 ай бұрын
@@SusanmugenI welcome even bad studies on this matter just to chuckle at the online poll or ridiculously low sample size and window of time asked after the surgery.
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
@@Susanmugen Feminist "scholars" used to argue the false accusation rate was no more than 2%. They produced many many methodologically flawed "studies" to support their claim. Then, after years and years of far more robust studies showing the false accusation rate exceeding 10%, the feminists started claiming 2-10%, which of course is still wrong. Similarly, feminist Mary Koss (spelling?) produced a study claiming 1 in 4 women are r***d. Feminists spent decades flooding the market with methodologically flawed studies reinforcing the lie, while ignoring the more robust studies that contradict the claim. Now, many feminist "scholars" no longer claim the 1 in 4 statistic. Now again with the trannies. 2% regret comes from a set of ideologically biased and methodologically flawed "studies." More robust studies are at least an order of magnitude higher. In a few years when this hysteria passes, all the "gender scholars" will shift closer to, but still below, the actual number.
@TagSpamCop
10 ай бұрын
53:14 More recently I've pointed out that children can't even agree to a cellphone contract. If you can't even agree to a data plan, how can you agree to lifelong medicalization?
@nancyhopkins389
10 ай бұрын
Sex and gender are the SAME thing! You can't change either one.
@DrDeuteron
10 ай бұрын
no, gender is made up and doesn't matter. Let them have 57, and ignore them.
@heatherwillis5505
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. Nothing they say after "Sex and gender are different" is even close to being logically consistent.
@KindlyKalen
10 ай бұрын
Then why do we have different words for them?
@wjdeoliveira3809
10 ай бұрын
@@KindlyKalen Most languages do not.
@Surreal452
10 ай бұрын
@KindlyKalen Synonyms are like that.
@ibbajibbaduay
10 ай бұрын
Peter Boghossian sets a wonderful example of natural, confident but humble curiosity and good faith humanity. Lovely guest and conversation.
@calmon-ground962
10 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see this done with Hayton's wife and kids.
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
At the very least you need balance by talking to trans widows (women whonhave been married to these fetishists). Their stories will break your heart...if not you are not human.💔💔💔💔
@KindlyKalen
10 ай бұрын
You mean women who are married to you, who fetishize us?
@Dirtyvinyl23
10 ай бұрын
The trans widows are overshadowed by these selfish men who only think about themselves and their needs and wants. Why string the poor wife along by getting married in order to appear “respectable”? If you have a proclivity to dress in female attire, take cross-sexed hormones and undergo invasive surgery to remove male genitalia, then that is your business but don’t involve a wife and children as a cover for your fetish. I would love to hear from the women and children who have been used as pawns in this whole affair. Seldom do we ever hear of the pain, loss and heartbreak of the women and children that these men tend to leave behind because of the overwhelming urge to indulge in this behaviour. I don’t regard this as being “ stunning and brave” but pure self-interest and narcissism. Whenever you bring up this subject of autogynephilia, the trans activists are so quick to dismiss it, despite the men who claim it as being their identity like this Debbie bloke.
@silo5747
10 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@robertanderson6929
10 ай бұрын
Language is the weapon of the post-modernist. They happily admit this. So, don't use their language. No MALE should ever be called any kind of woman. That is intentionally designed to be confusing. A male who wishes to be perceived as a woman should be called a "male-trans." A female who likewise wishes to be consider a man should be called a "female-trans." It is accurate and not offensive. It also has the virtue of avoiding calamity such as when a female presented herself as a MAN to a medical clinic and complained about cramping. She suffered a miscarriage in the waiting room in part because nurses and doctors did not expect a MAN to be pregnant. The also avoids the idiocy of testing all males for a pregnancy which is what the British NIH decided in the aftermath of this case.
@judeesee894
10 ай бұрын
Would rather have watched an interview where you interview his wife. Why does anyone care what this man thinks? He violates women’s boundaries daily and he ruined his kids’ lives. Why does anyone platform him? 🙄 why does anyone care what he has to say anymore? Talk to trans widows Peter if you want to actually understand why this dude is wearing a skirt. BTW: I lasted 5 minutes..I just can’t with this guy.
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
@drpeterboghossian THIS! Though she may not agree. Find the trans windows. Give them a voice. They are a crucial part in the equation so their voices are greatly suppressed. Many are scared to speak out against their abusers.
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯👍🏼
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
I can't add tags so i guess i should assume my comments wont last. 🤦🏽♀️
@judeesee894
10 ай бұрын
@@pinwheelart2825 it’s amazing how enchanted these men are with these AGPs. He’s just a mentally ill man in a skirt who chose his obsession over his own children. I wonder if Peter has read any of “Debbie’s” work where he describes his disorder. He describes how embarrassed his son is. It’s tragic.
@varjaprotassova196
10 ай бұрын
Why does it have to be one or the other? That's a reasonable and likeable trans person, but I would like to hear from the wives of trans people as well. I'm a gay woman and unlike many women I know I'm not "flexible" in any way, so if my partner transitioned it would be a personal catastrophe for me and our family structure, so I do understand
@amyskull7543
10 ай бұрын
He may be the best physics teacher. However I feel that if any individual either male or female has a sexual proclivity that bleeds out into all other aspects of life should not be teachers or in any position of authority with small children. This is what differentiates this from homosexuality. That just means you are same sex attracted. There are lots of scenarios where being gay or straight wouldnt matter. Autogynephila *does* need the public to participate in the fetish as well. I keep remembering what Kathleen Stock said about safeguards. For me I feel that in the real world these matters could be decided in a case by case basis. But as a safeguard i feel that it would be a good rule to have
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
💯 he is forcing participation in his fetish. He loves all the attention.
@Crackpot_Astronaut
10 ай бұрын
But you'd never know Debbie was AGP if she hadn't said it in this very particular, adult conversation. So how would you determine who could or couldn't teach? Unless you just want to say that no trans people can be teachers, which is a little weird in my opinion. What do you think?
@БорянаЦенева
10 ай бұрын
@@Crackpot_Astronaut we can tell he's an AGP by the fact he's cross-dressing. Men wearing clothes designed for female bodies have a sexual fetish and people have always known that. The majority of people find it creepy and disturbing. I wouldn't put my child in a school that allows teachers to live their sexual fantasies in public.
@tinahochstetler2189
10 ай бұрын
@@Crackpot_Astronaut No trans teachers.
@tinahochstetler2189
10 ай бұрын
I'll go a step further actually and say no trans teachers or working with children in any way, and no trans working with vulnerable adults or adults in a vulnerable position. That would include nursing homes and healthcare. Obviously, no trans in mental health, because of their own mental health issues. No trans in public office. no trans in positions where sex matters. Such as positions that are meant to be held specifically by a woman or by a man because the position deals specifically with women or women's issues, or men or men's issues.
@DylanYoung
10 ай бұрын
If you care about someone, you ask questions about any major decision they make, even as simple as a vacation. Why on earth would you not question them on permanently altering their body. Even as a friend, this would be irresponsible and disrespectful, but to suggest a doctor who's sworn an oath to do no harm shouldn't be questioning a patient asking them to inflict harm on them is just bats***.
@JayJay-wg5ex
10 ай бұрын
100 per cent, what if they are incredibly ill or mentally unstable at that moment in their life or under pressure by someone
@Susanmugen
10 ай бұрын
2% regret rate. Suicide rate drops to normal post-op
@dragonfire4244
10 ай бұрын
I appreciate Debbie's honesty.
@Enhancedlies
10 ай бұрын
it is so rare, like a breath of fresh air
@agaace
10 ай бұрын
He's not honest at all. He's manipulative & abusive towards his family. Dig deeper & he will reveal his true colors. A wolf in sheep's skin. The appearance of a "nice, honest guy" is part of his game, the modus operandi of abusive men like him.
@radubradu
10 ай бұрын
you also have to questions his motives for admitting to some of the truth
@dragonfire4244
10 ай бұрын
@@radubradu And what do you think his motivations are? I don’t think a person with AGP should necessarily be demonised. My question has always been around if a person has the rationality & awareness to come to a reasonable solution for both sides. The dangerous men are those who won’t acknowledge that they are men and therefore will not accept women’s boundaries. Debbie admits he’s a man with a mental condition & doesn’t use women’s safe spaces from what I understand. Interested to hear what you think.
@copiawebster5502
10 ай бұрын
Most people are not ‘non-bianry’ because ‘non-binary’ is an identity. Most of us don’t ‘identify as’ anything. Most of us just are what and who we are, without any need to identify as something else.
@bepitan
10 ай бұрын
exactly ... the more you go on about it the further you drift away from the very thing you wish to identify with.
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
No one is "non binary", that's just something somebody somewhere made up
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua
10 ай бұрын
👏 Exactly
@DarkAngel2512
10 ай бұрын
We're *identified* as from a passive objective. We cannot identify from the assertive subjective.
@nickthepostpunk5766
10 ай бұрын
I suspect that’s missing the point: are identities things we actively think about and are always consciously aware of second by second? I am a biological male, and am aware I am male. I’m also white, and aware that I am white. I also have a particular job and am a father, and both of these form part of my identity. I could go on, but suffice it to say we all presumably have many identities whether we publicly declare them or not.
@mattwilliams3427
10 ай бұрын
Peter should be shown to school children as one example of a person worth striving to be.
@kahwigulum
10 ай бұрын
There were the rockers, then the punks, then the goths, then the emos, and the latest iteration of group identification is trans. In a decade or so it'll be something else.
@dimercamparini
10 ай бұрын
Totally agree...the only unique problem with this iteration of a "trend" is that all the other trends were not so disruptive and damaging of the bodies and minds of ppl...not even close compared to this one...
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
Sadly, it will leave a lot of damage in its wake.😢
@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs
10 ай бұрын
You think trans is a trend? You aren’t serious
@abcdeshole
10 ай бұрын
@@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs are you old enough to have known youth subcultures before trans got big?
@baconsarny-geddon8298
10 ай бұрын
Yep. IMO it's most obvious in teen girls, whether they self-ID as "non-binary" or "trans guys". "Non binary" esp have a uniform of coloured hair, facial piercings, a kind of less shaggy version of the "scene kid" aesthetic of 10-15 years ago. And they definitely have their own slang/jargon- All the stuff they put in twitter bios, and identity labels. Kinda like the autistic arguments over punk or metal sub-genres.
@beccafirebird
10 ай бұрын
Oh Peter. You fell for the perverted AGP's reasonable line. D Hayton is a wolf in women's clothing. Respect is lost for me.
@AZChelseaR
10 ай бұрын
Following the claim for detransition when Debbie mentioned how the public system responds to issues with private surgery i would love to have seen "the doctors who provide medical transition including surgery should be required to care for/pay for care for detransitions"
@ReverendDr.Thomas
10 ай бұрын
Do you use any of the following (somewhat euphemistic) terms? • gay • homophobia/homophobe • transphobia/transphobe • trans-sexual • transgender • cis gender • sex worker • capitalism/capitalist • any gender-specific pronoun other than he/she, him/her or his/her Then CONGRATULATIONS - you are (either knowingly or unwittingly) a silly shill for the loony left!
@____uncompetative
10 ай бұрын
Peter Boghossian should get his wife on without her dead husband being in the room.
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
He's not dead, gravely confused, but very much alive
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
How on earth can a man attempt to live as a woman yet consider himself heterosexual? I think he's not being honest with himself, that's just utter confusion
@-Mitra-
10 ай бұрын
Selfishness in its extreme form, probably.
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
@@-Mitra- I agree with you
@felicialynn2588
10 ай бұрын
This has been one of the most compelling conversations I’ve ever seen. I’m glued to watching . Thanks to Debbie and Peter for great insight on both views. I also liked they agreed on many things.
@sarahhale-pearson533
10 ай бұрын
Yup. 100% the only question is ‘ is he dangerously unhinged, or just unhinged?’
@joanr3189
10 ай бұрын
Language corruption. Men aren’t women. Get over it.
@helenablavatsky9136
10 ай бұрын
I'll skip this one.
@HelloTygr
6 ай бұрын
If you skipped because you were triggered by the title, grow up and join us in reality. If you skipped because it’s a trans person, give it a chance; I skipped it when uploaded at first as well because as a Christian man it was difficult for me to take Debbie seriously because he’s trans. I’m glad I gave the video another chance. Debbie is aware that he is a man, affirms that he is male, and knows that what he has done is strange and not ‘right’, and explains the reasoning for his transition in the video. It’s quite fascinating really, and worth the watch.
@helenablavatsky9136
6 ай бұрын
@@HelloTygr He admits he's a man and people still call him "she."
@jennywren118
10 ай бұрын
I just read an opinion piece by Debbie in the Daily Mail, giving his broad view of trans issues in general and the story of his own 'transition journey'. What struck me was his description of himself as a "happily married father of four" pre transition and then as simply "Still married. Although we sleep in seperate beds." post transition. That's it. Marriage effectively over, for his pleasure it seems. Nothing else was mentioned about his family. A stark reflection of the minimal to zero consideration older AGP men afford to their wives and their children, when deciding to radically and permanently upend everyone's lives. I was supprised and disappointed to see Peter thinks it's fine for AGP men to work with children, and he didn't chose to ask any questions about the effects of transition on immediate family members. It makes me wonder how much he's really looked into agp. Could be wrong, but my impression is he hasn't looked into the subject of trans widows, at all. Depressing how universally ignored the exploitation and profound abuse wives and families of AGP men routinely suffer is.
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
I commend Peter for many things, including his famous hoax. However, his kids are gay, so he's biased in favor of LGBTQ... even if he resists the most extreme elements of gender ideology. He, like Tim Pool and others, is weak, tepid, fence-sitting.
@varjaprotassova196
10 ай бұрын
For me other people's marriages are out of bounds unless there's abuse or other crimes. You don't know what's happening within that marriage, what if NOT talking about it is precisely what the wife wants? As a mother I also don't see the point of ostracising AGP men or preventing them from working with children. Victimless paraphilias seem like just a quirk to me, and also I just ASSUME that everyone has some strange sexual habits or thoughts, that's a given. What's even more disturbing, everyone has violent thoughts from time to time, even teachers.
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
@@varjaprotassova196 You assume, but are not worried by, teachers having paraphilias that children participate in... However, you are worried that teachers sometimes have violent thoughts. Do you think teachers more commonly physically or psychosexually abuse children? Do you think AGP have the same, less, or more likelihood of being pedos? Apparently, your protective maternal instincts are failing. Seems like mothers are the ones allowing this social contagion to spread. If the wife doesn't want this discussed, then 1) clearly him being AGP hurts the wife and 2) he shouldn't have brought journalists into his family life.
@jcraw6332
10 ай бұрын
This effort by some people to require others to perform a special service (abnormal use of pronouns for instance) for them without compensation is at an extreme view a form of enslavement. If they want to pay for this service I might tell them the price of this service ….if I’m in the right mood. I might also tell them my preferred pronoun is the numerical equivalent of the irrational number “e”. Then when they get tired we might have a conversation.
@thisslightlysweetlife3402
10 ай бұрын
Great conversation. I’m doubting he can still have orgasms after that surgery. It’s exceptionally rare.
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
I don't believe it at all, and I dont think he was expecting that question
@herlibrarianship
10 ай бұрын
The validation going on here is sickening.
@rachel2earth
10 ай бұрын
Autogynephilia is a new word I learnt today. I can think of someone in my life it maybe relates too as well. Interesting.
@bepitan
10 ай бұрын
..the elephant in the room...it's huge.
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
AGP is all or at least most male -> female trannies. However, this claim and all the supporting research has been suppressed for decades. Why? Because if most/all m->f trannies are dudes who are s**ually aroused by being called miss/ma'am, then politely indulging them is participating in their s**ual fetish. "Debbie" and Peter have no problem with AGP teaching kids in school, but most people aren't so comfortable with forcing children to participate in the fetish of grown men.
@nancyhopkins389
10 ай бұрын
Most girls already wear "gender non-conforming clothes." Dumb point, Peter.
@NeilDunford-u9d
10 ай бұрын
So some AGPs, also fancy women. Got it. They shouldn't be seen as women, nor a subset of women.
@kate60
10 ай бұрын
Insane conversation. The reprobate mind.
@jessykaiser6373
10 ай бұрын
God, I'm old! I still don't get binary vs non-binary. When I hear those words, I hear math and computer code. Anyone else feel that way?
@radubradu
10 ай бұрын
It's not about being old, it's about the concepts being nonsensical. Math and code are based on logic. Gender ideology is based on magical thinking and word games.
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
It's not you, non binary is nonsense, someone made it up, all humans are binary
@SydneyBristow0788
10 ай бұрын
When I hear "non-binary," I hear look at how special my personality is and how I use my personality to display stereotypes of gender. It doesn't mean anything at all. For all of the human experience men and women have had all sorts of different personalities and have expressed what was stereotypical of men and women to some varying degrees.
@Muonium1
10 ай бұрын
Peter these SE game videos are AN HOUR LONG - most of us are LISTENING not watching them. *YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE TO THE AUDIENCE WHERE EACH OF YOU ARE STANDING when you move along the scale or we have no idea where people are at*
@clydedsouzaauthor
10 ай бұрын
Same visually
@seaofflowers.
10 ай бұрын
MAKING A REQUEST IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T COME OFF AS YOU'RE LIKELY INTENDING IT TO. Just looks like you're trying to teach a child simple statements.
@pamelaroyce5285
10 ай бұрын
That’s a very good point. The host should develop the habit of stating “I’m standing on [______] and you’re standing on [______].” There are many, many people who are blind or substantially visually impaired.
@Muonium1
10 ай бұрын
@@seaofflowers. cope and seethe.
@LaOwlett
10 ай бұрын
I think all public schools should have pants/shorts uniforms. It saves a lot of arguments, and probably saves a bit of money trying not to look poor at school. The HH sweatshirt you got your kid for christmas will last longer. I thought this as a kid, and now even more as a parent.
@TennisBarbie119
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, but a lot of people will argue that the school uniforms are expensive. A female child, for instance, would need 5 white shirts @ 15 bucks each, 3-5 skirts or dresses @ 30 bucks each, about 3-5 cardigans @ 20 bucks each. $325 every year at least since kids grow. A lot of people would argue that even this amount of money is not feasible and that their kids should just wear what they have.
@LaOwlett
10 ай бұрын
@@TennisBarbie119 They don't need to be fancy harry potter uniforms, and the uniforms don't have to be purchased by the parents. The parents could pay a small fee that would go towards the replacement of clothing, and parents would exchange them once they don't fit. As a seamstress I can tell you right now, a pair of basic, pocketless black or navy elastic waist pants/shorts is cheaper than a pair of jeans/khakis. Pair this up with a school jacket and any white shirt, and maybe a scarf or tie in the school's colors.
@JoshWiniberg
10 ай бұрын
Talking as a UK parent out a primary aged child, uniforms are no more expensive than any other clothes. Probably cheaper, than average, actually. I reckon we save money by having a uniform here. But I'm not sure if that's the same as you get into high school age.
@hypoluxa
10 ай бұрын
I like to use the word 'personality' as apposed to gender. You can change/express your external presented personality without limits. ie I am presenting myself as a punk-rocker today and tomorrow I will present as a Hippy or cowboy etc. I think that is the crux of the confusion people are having with the established word meanings (and those who try and reclassify them). IMO gender and sex are the same thing, and one cannot fully 100% change into the opposite. But if a person presents themselves as a typical (M or F) external appearance, I will use the aligned term that I see in front of me by default or until otherwise corrected. If I see a cat out in the public, I won't call it a turtle...
@KYLETEACHESBASSYT
10 ай бұрын
Well said. We have adjectives for a reason. Words like masculine and feminine have clear meaning. Phrases like "male gender" and "female gender" have no clear meaning.
@theway5563
10 ай бұрын
@@KYLETEACHESBASSYT - You clearly did not read the comment very well. Sex and gender are only male and female; therefore, synonymous. Personality is a very separate thing. One can be a feminine behaving male, and one can be a masculine behaving female.
@KYLETEACHESBASSYT
10 ай бұрын
@@theway5563 I responded to a part of the comment. I read the comment pretty carefully. What I'm saying has nothing to do with the definition of gender as a synonym for sex. It has to do with the confusing use of the word gender as "typified masculine and feminine behavior." I'm not quite sure where our lines are crossing.
@hunterseufert8066
10 ай бұрын
Peter Boghossian, I absolutely love your content. I thought I'd provide some constructive criticism. I do not think this format of doing street epistemology 1v1 indoors is working very well. I think you explore these topics better 1v1 via interview. I think the street epistemology is more compelling when a third party is mediating the game, and when more people are involved.
@ricardolambo3743
10 ай бұрын
I have to agree with @hunterseufert8066. I feel that we get a passable interview despite (and not because of) the street epistemology. How is this an improvement over two adults sitting down and talking? What exactly does shuffling around as if they're playing musical chairs add?
@JoshWiniberg
10 ай бұрын
@@ricardolambo3743yes I feel like something is missing here because they aren't doing the key part of trying to change each other's mind, which is what makes other SE videos I've seen more exciting. The discussion in this video actually feels hampered by the format because they aren't really going deeply into each question and idea. Still interesting to hear their ideas but I think a straight discussion might have been more fulfilling.
@gardengirl6636
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this fascinating conversation!
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Ruby_Spacek
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the great content to Peter and team! Been watching all your uploads EDIT thanks to Debbie for being a great guest too!
@CathyKitson
10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised (and disappointed) that Peter would go to a female prison if given a choice. Does he not realise women would feel threatened by a biological male in their midst?
@radubradu
10 ай бұрын
I guess he thinks himself morally superior to other men, and that he would never hurt a woman. A lot of trans people make this claim. Which is nice and all, and could even be true, but it's not how safeguarding works.
@paper4501
10 ай бұрын
I don't know what the answer is, really, when it comes to the prison thing, but when someone has transitioned to the point of having bottom surgery, I don't think that's the same thing as these obviously not trans men who simply claim to be trans to go to a woman's prison... 🤷
@Phil1982
10 ай бұрын
I think this part was a misunderstanding. If you take that question from another perspective, I.e. of your own personal safety, then Peters answer was fair. It's a hypothetical situation and a standalone question. It's a fact that women's prisons (at least in the Uk) are far less dangerous than men's.
@CathyKitson
10 ай бұрын
@@Phil1982 I realise that from his point of view, it would be preferable, and therefore that's why he answered the way he did. But the transperson was actually less selfish and more thoughtful because she was thinking of everyone else and not herself.
@CathyKitson
10 ай бұрын
@@radubradu I'm sure he wouldn't hurt a woman. At least I hope he wouldn't. But as you say, it's not how it works.
@davidbrinnen
10 ай бұрын
The way Peter just dives in balls deep to such sensitive topics is impressive - coming across the pond to our shores and suggesting there isn't a right way to make Tea - that's brave, bordering on insensitive and yet here he is - the brass neck on this fellow - brilliant!
@oldgrahammare
10 ай бұрын
I love these so much and play along at home. Here's where I get stuck. What is meant by 'should be/not be allowed'? I hear this used frequently and I don't know if it means would you make a law against the behaviour or something else. For example, I wouldn't want to see a law against men dressing as women but I strongly support people/places/organizations setting their own standards of what is allowable to them. A man can be free to put on a dress but a female lingerie store owner does not have to let him try on lingerie in her store.
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
Yes, this is a problem that any socially conservative libertarian constantly faces. Should a man wear a dress? No. Can a man wear a dress in my private business? No. Should government jail a man for wearing a dress? No. Should government jail a man for twerking in a miniskirt at an "all ages" drag show? Maybe.
@SandraLovesSun
10 ай бұрын
Strongly agree on transsexual vs. transgender. Personality is not gender. It's just personality. They are conflating.
@TagSpamCop
10 ай бұрын
46:10 Disagree. Possibly strongly disagree. Many grown adults have been caught up in the transition craze and been harmed by it, and then detransitioned. They self-diagnosed and self-treated some other issue - OCD, internalized homophobia, autism, etc - and were transitioned no questions asked. A therapist needs to be involved not to embed ideology, but to probe more objectively. Self-diagnosis and self-ID are the same thing. Anyone diagnosing themselves is an unreliable doctor.
@pdxnikki1
10 ай бұрын
I'm reading gender theory now from Catholic perspective so I greatly appreciate this. Debbie is an awesome human being!
@mouseutopiadystopia24601
10 ай бұрын
So from a Catholic perspective, you think a person is awesome who supports autogynophiliacs teaching children (i.e. men who are aroused by being called "miss" forcing a classroom of children to call him "miss")? Is it awesome for a father to destroy his family, wife, and children? Are you the type of Catholic who thinks Pope Francis is a good Catholic?
@elenawilliams32
7 ай бұрын
Ask their kids and wife if they think Debbie is an awesome person? Would you want your children to be taught by a AGP who gets aroused by your child them calling them 'Miss'?
@EnglishFemale
8 ай бұрын
AGP, i feel so sorry for the wives of these men
@SandraLovesSun
10 ай бұрын
I vote NO on personal pronoun usage. I will NEVER. It is very basic. I / You / We - He / She / It
@calmon-ground962
10 ай бұрын
Great format! It's interesting to see what the folks at home are thinking with the poll questions!
@ornange
10 ай бұрын
It's so crazy when I was younger and learned about gender and sex.... The true defintions. I don't even remember the original definitions now! How sad :(
@baconsarny-geddon8298
10 ай бұрын
Sex is just defined by gametes ("born with most/all organs to produce large gametes/eggs= female. Small, mobile gametes= male"). But there IS NO "true definition" of "gender". It's a 100% subjective, non-scientific term, which has NEVER had evidence-based criteria. (IMO sex-independent "gender" is a religious concept, comparable to "the soul", "chakras", "chi energy", etc- All evidence-free concepts, which believers assume we all have, and which are taken to define "your TRUE self", in some spooky, pseudo-spirtual sense)
@acacia_w
10 ай бұрын
Debbie is spot on about the pronouns.
@NeilDunford-u9d
10 ай бұрын
"that's a commitment" That's one way of putting it...
@nastja33
10 ай бұрын
Debbie has one of those unique faces where it appears he has no teeth and yet he has teeth
@STEVEBINNION1
9 ай бұрын
Love you Debbie , you are telling the truth ❤
@benchapple1583
10 ай бұрын
The comments section has revealed that this man is rather a hypocrite. What he's saying and what he does, or at least did, do not match.
@tbishop4961
10 ай бұрын
This was great. Enjoyed the conversation
@r8m8s8
10 ай бұрын
This street epistemolgy style should be done in schools for sure.
@boldandthebeautifulgimbal2881
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this episode. I’ve been reminded that i do not care about how someone wants to look, just don’t expect me to use incorrect language or social norms.
@miekesmit7012
7 ай бұрын
Great example of a conversation away from the extreme forced ideology
@Chablar89
10 ай бұрын
Really enjoying these epistemology videos with some light hearted questions thrown in
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
There’s a lot more to come!
@SandraLovesSun
10 ай бұрын
Someone said when I talk to trans people I don't use pronouns - I will do you one better - I don't talk to them. They made it this way. I'm not walking on eggshells, I won't be bullied, I won't play make-believe with a hostile adult.
@junehope5152
10 ай бұрын
Peter needs to get a graphic so we can see on screen who is standing on what
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
We can do that, but all of this is made possible by donors. We’d need donations to make that happen.
@emphaticapathy
10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate Debbie's honesty - it suggests a self awareness which is rare per se, but particularly so amongst the trans community. I feel the reason so much of trans 'activism' is in such bad faith is because they are ultimately lying to themselves.
@MargotSolanas
10 ай бұрын
He's very deceptive about his intentions and his influence. David Hayton jokes about using women's spaces including the sleeping at a YWCA, wears his paraphilia to work as a teacher, has the children to call him 'Miss' and who was instrumental in bringing in measures to ensure boys could use girls' bathrooms at schools. Has "female"on his passport too. He's discussed how he gets se*ually excited to be called miss and "debbie" so you can judge how you feel about him using kids that way.
@pinwheelart2825
10 ай бұрын
What she said.♤♤♤ He is a narcissistic abuser just like the rest. Watch the documentary with his family. You can tell they have been through it with him...poor woman and children 😢.
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
@@pinwheelart2825 that's the worst kind of deception I can think of, I would have no words for him, the whole thing is infuriating
@SassyHippo
10 ай бұрын
This is fascinating because of the deep thought and well explained positions. The subject is rather interesting but the ability for you two to speak and defend your positions in an intelligent manner is refreshing. Thank you both!
@bodyrewilding
10 ай бұрын
Peter - you are not informed on the circumcision issue, in terms of comparing FGM and MGM. Please check out the work of Brian Earp.
@grackattack7spadestack
10 ай бұрын
Good to see you again, Debbie. I’ve always got time for you. Thank you for putting yourself out there the way you do ❤
@MrBeachMadness
10 ай бұрын
re. "transexual" and "transgender"...if we all agree we are talking about two very different states of being, why not use both?
@wolfhugs2221
10 ай бұрын
Surgery....the NHS avoids carrying out hysterectomies. Big surgery, lots of risk. So many women who need a hysterectomy go private rather than have to go through the merry go round of ineffective treatments. When people need surgery to due massive physical pain that is debilitating their existence and making them suicidal, what exactly is covered under the NHS?
@theinnerlight8016
10 ай бұрын
"So you're never without a date on the weekend." 😂😂
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
Glad you got my joke!
@theinnerlight8016
10 ай бұрын
@@drpeterboghossian We got a similar kind of humor 😉 More important: love for Star Trek 🖖
@wjdeoliveira3809
10 ай бұрын
11 minutes in and I just want to say I love you guys. These are the types of conversations we need to have. Debby reminds me of the transsexuals I knew in my time in the Amsterdam gay scene in the 90's. Completely different world than that of the trans acttivists of today
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate that.
@californiadreamer2580
17 күн бұрын
What's the difference between autogynophilia and plain old fashioned narcissism?
@davidpaul9961
10 ай бұрын
Im literally getting queazy from this conversation. But it’s needed. You don’t hear these details very often.
@oscarr9761
10 ай бұрын
I wish everyone realized that this pronoun thing is unsustainable. Assuming that gender now means personality, and that everyone has their own unique personality, it would mean that there are 7 billion genders. And if there are pronouns for each gender, there would be 7 billion pronouns, which would make the use of language absolutely impossible. Also, each person having their own name AND pronouns, would defeat the entire purpose of pronouns, which is to replace names. It would make way more sense for people to be fighting for one universal pronoun regardless of sex/gender, rather than fighting for more and more pronouns.
@justsome-guy7596
10 ай бұрын
I didn't think when I started watching this that I'd be typing this comment - but ... I have to say, it's catching me very off guard to listen to a trans person who isn't raging with all sorts of crazy emotions and irrational motives. Debbie presented as a very polite, moderate and courteous person. What a breath of fresh air.
@БорянаЦенева
10 ай бұрын
Watch the documentary with this guy's wife. Heartbreaking. He chose to hurt, traumatize, insult and humiliate her and his whole family in order to live this fetish in public. I have no respect for this man, so selfish. I hope she divorced him.
@StormCrusher94
10 ай бұрын
Usually when we think hear the preferred pronouns question people tend to think the classic he/him she/her. Maybe asking about they/them and neo pronouns could spice it up. Gender isn't purely a social construct. For years sex and gender have been used synonymously (in my language it even uses the same word for female and woman (or male and man)). How you present yourself definitely has a influence. For me there are 2 sexes, the anomalies known as intersex are also divided into male and female, they aren't both or a more mixed chromosomal state. For genders I'd say 2 (man and woman) at most 4 (adding transsexuals as another gender). Everything else, for me doesn't have a basis on which we can measure that gender, as the nonbinary, genderfluids etc. all keep describing themselves on feelings and emotions (that's why I'd somewhat agree on trans being another gender as it ties to biology) I have nothing against gays, lesbians, trans , Muslim, Black or any other people teaching children as long as they teach what they are supposed to. Math teachers math. Language teachers actual language, like classic literature and not just the words and literature that cater and promote the LGBT world. Sure you can sprinkle some history facts about LGBT, like the movements in the 70s to get their first wave of right. What I want to say the teaching material and teachers need to take up a mostly neutral stance and not (consistently) bring up the political or worlds views. Social transitioning children is just wrong. Clothes don't have a gender, but there was that Adam Sandler movie where he let his kid wear anything he wants to school. At one point the kid wanted to go in full swimming gear snorkel, life-ring. There is a place and time for each type of clothing. You can call me a traditionalist but there is just something right with boys wearing boy clothes and the same for girls, you could call it order. Meanwhile using preferred pronouns, using a different name, letting use unisex or opposite sex toilets, maybe even giving puberty blockers is just a no go. Mostly they don't understand the scope and effect that has on them, as it can spiral them deeper into assuming them being the opposite sex. Nonbinary from the definitions online says that you either DON'T feel like either man or woman or that you feel like BOTH. So from a mathematical statement it would encompass the whole space. But it having contradicting definitions it negates itself. Therefore it can't exist. Man and woman have such a wide range of personalities each, there is some overlap, like being more tomboyish or effeminate, but that doesn't make you less of a man or woman. It doesn't change you to be non-binary. Debbie seems to be looking it from the starting point of being human and mixes both man and woman into, while I first separate by sex and then personality traits. Good on giving the in sound mind transsexuals (as much as they can be, it is still a psychological disorder) exposure. Really helps to show they aren't all completely nuts.
@ReverendDr.Thomas
10 ай бұрын
sex: gender; the BINARY state of being either male or female in most species of metazoans. In humans, each cell nucleus contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, a total of 46 chromosomes. The first 22 pairs are called autosomes. Autosomes are homologous chromosomes, that is, chromosomes that contain the same genes (regions of DNA) in the same order along their chromosomal arms. The 23rd pair of chromosomes are called allosomes (sex chromosomes). These allosomes consist of two X chromosomes in most all females, and an X chromosome and a Y chromosome in most all males. Females, therefore, have 23 homologous chromosome pairs, whereas males have 22. The X and Y chromosomes have small regions of homology called pseudoautosomal regions. The X chromosome is always present as the 23rd chromosome in the ovum, while either an X or Y chromosome may be present in an individual spermatozoon cell gamete. Rare chromosomal anomalies include X (Turner syndrome); XXY (Klinefelter syndrome); XYY; and XXX. In such cases, the sex of the human is still either male or female, because one’s sex/gender is determined primarily by the gametes produced (see below). An extremely minute percentage of humans are either (anatomical) hermaphrodites or of indeterminate sex (or to be more accurate, disordered sex). That does not negate the incontrovertible FACT that there are but two sexes/genders. In order for reproduction to take place, there is the requirement of a female ovum and a male sperm to unite, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex dichotomy of most species of animals is to enable procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the individual in question. There is no third gamete. Cf. “gender”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). If the reader is curious to know the reason for this term being included in the glossary of “F.I.S.H” (apart from the fact that it is actually used in a handful of chapters), it is because, in recent times, LEFTISTS have been desperately trying to change the meaning of the words “sex” and “gender”, in order to serve their immensely-nefarious agenda to destroy civil society with their hateful, wicked, immoral ideologies, especially by promoting the nonsensical idea that a person is able to transition from one gender to the other. ♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️♂️♀️ gender: sex; the BINARY state of being either male or female, and because the entire purpose of the gender/sex division in most species of animal life is to facilitate procreation, the sexual identity of an individual is best classified according to the gametes produced by the person in question. There is no extant third gamete. Therefore, even if a human being possessed a male reproductive system (or, at a minimum, produced spermatazoa, despite not having a complete reproductive system [in other words, a man without a distinguishable penis]), yet was superlatively feminine in every other possible way, he would be required to mate with a biological female in order to reproduce (and, as explained in Chapter 27, marriage is a societal obligation for the vast majority of humans). An extremely minute percentage of humans are either “intersex” (typically referring to those persons who are anatomical hermaphrodites) or of indeterminate gender (that is, not easily determined by a cursory inspection of the external genitalia), but that does not negate the incontrovertible scientific fact that every human belongs to one of only two genders. As far as we know, there has never existed a single human being with the ability to BOTH conceive a child in “his/her” womb and, simultaneously, successfully inseminate a woman (or in more disturbing terms, for a hermaphrodite to inseminate ‘him/herself’). And even if such an individual has existed, that person would be a combination of BOTH male and female, and not some imaginary, novel third gender. In those rare cases in which a human is born without gonads, the other characteristics of sex/gender would be taken into consideration - firstly, the allosomes (sex chromosomes) found in the DNA of every cell, and then, any extant genitalia, since even those females who have experienced the misfortune of being born without ovaries, for instance, usually have their remaining sex organs intact). Cf. “sex”. Both terms (“gender” and “sex”) originate from Latin words: “genus” (meaning “begin”; “birth”; “kind”; “race”; “gender”) and “sexus” (meaning “sex”; “division”; “gender”). So, essentially, the only significant distinction between the two terms is that the etymology of “gender” pertains to the beginning of things, as can be plainly seen by the other English words that originate from “genus”, such as “generic”, “genetic”, and “generate”, whilst “sex” is a scrupulously-literal translation of the Latin cognate “sexus”. The mere fact that the word “genitals” (referring to reproductive organs) is very closely related to the Latin “genus” is further evidence of the assertion that the term “gender” refers to the binary division of human (and of course, many non-human) sexual identity, and NOT to any taxonomy based on emotion, feelings, psychology, or any other non-biological categorization schema. If the reader is curious to know why this term is included in the glossary of “F.I.S.H” (apart from the fact that it is actually used in a handful of chapters), it is because leftists have been desperately trying to change the meaning of the word of late, in order to serve their immensely-perverse agenda to destroy civil society with their hateful, wicked, sinful, OBJECTIVELY-IMMORAL doctrines. Until relatively recently, the word “gender” has ALWAYS been used in the etymologically-accurate sense of the term. And even in the former case (where the word has been used to denote something other than the sexual binary taxonomy), predominantly in those places where leftist ideologues comprise a significant portion of the population - mainly Anglophone countries at present, although by the time you are reading this document, probably every nation on earth, with the exception of Islamic lands. See also “leftism”. Ultimately, the term “gender” is not absolutely synonymous with the word “sex” (otherwise, why would progenitors of the Latin tongue have coined two distinct words for two slightly divergent concepts), but it most definitely does not refer to the notion or notions invented by leftists (those who adhere to adharma), especially the idea that “sex” refers to a binary division of human biology and/or anatomy, whereas “gender” refers to how one identifies according to societal norms in regard to sexual roles. For example, most all leftist ideologues define “woman” as “someone who identifies as a woman”, which is a wholly circular definition. Those of us who stand for dharma (righteousness) must push-back with all our might against the adulteration of the language. If you are truly wise and intelligent, you would surely have recognized several amazing secrets contained within the body of this treatise, “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”. However, perhaps the most secretive secret of all, shall forthwith be revealed: It is IMPOSSIBLE for a human being to change his or her sex/gender! (You are implored to keep this secret - do not tell a soul!!!) For example, a man who castrates himself and wears a skirt or a dress, is simply a mutilated, transvestinal male - not a woman, nor is he a female. Similarly, a woman who attaches an appendage resembling a phallus to her crotch and dons a pair of pantaloons, is merely a transvestinal woman with a fake penis between her thighs, and not a man, nor a male, in any accurate sense of the terms. Actually, I would contend that any “man” who excises his reproductive organs was always a dickless “man”, metaphorically speaking. N.B. Even though the glossary entries “gender” and “sex” are worded somewhat differently, they could easily have EITHER been interchangeable, or else worded identically, since, in practice, they possess the same meaning. Even when the term “gender” (or any non-English cognate of the word) is used in grammar, it indicates whether a particular noun or pronoun is masculine, feminine or neuter, although most nouns in the English language do not have a gender (neuters).
@babysis6.059
10 ай бұрын
I keep it simple and keep it real, gender does not apply to humans, only language, as humans we have male and female, that's it and that's all
@terrancephillips5798
10 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that loves Peter Bogosian, but absolutely hates Street epistemology?😂
@MiniT-x8q
10 ай бұрын
Disappointed in Debbie Hayton's understanding of the sex binary, he is quite clearly conflating sex and presentation/gender.
@hubertinepankhurst1161
10 ай бұрын
I am disappointed you are inviting this person, whose dishonesty is documented. You should have fact checked more thoroughly.
@slappypants69
10 ай бұрын
How is she dishonest?
@DylanYoung
10 ай бұрын
Care to elaborate?
@____uncompetative
10 ай бұрын
@@slappypants69You aren't even being honest. He is a pervert.
@____uncompetative
10 ай бұрын
He has a nice wife who should divorce him. Hopefully he doesn't hit her.
@____uncompetative
10 ай бұрын
Richard Feynman was also a misogynist.
@clodaghread5655
10 ай бұрын
Brilliant healthy respectful thoughtful calm debate, the world needs more of this thank you
@JanetHanning-f2f
10 ай бұрын
People can wear whatever clothes they like. Look at male and female dress in historical paintings. But it usually involved a fixed dress code or fashion at a particular time. Gender is how you communicate yourself in relation to others in order to attract and maintain the sexual relationships you want. So you are dressing and behaving in a certain way to signal the kind of partner you want and the level of commitment you want. A sex worker would use appearance and behaviour to signal that they are only interested in a short term commercial interaction. A punk girl would use these to indicate rebellion against authority figures or stereotypes. However these are learned behaviours . Rebellious behaviours are usually fads. To that extent gender is a social construct, but it has a purpose to communicate with others that you hold a particular set of values or ideologies and expect others to respond to your choices in very limited ways. The limited ways of responding are also learned. They exist to moderate behaviour. The idea of limiting responses is to reduce shame, protect from rape, and avoid conversations in front of children or people who would be offended. It would differ in other cultures. Does everyone know what a drag queen is trying to communicate? The problem is that trans people are sending confused messages to which the acceptable responses are being invented on the spot. Trans people go into a rage if they are misgendered. The other person has to hide their irritation that the usual sexual signals are not being communicated. So who is forced to back down? The reaction of the trans person is very aggressive and irrational behaviour towards others, that demonstrates their narcissism and refusal to respect others. A Trans person becomes an unlikeable person. I agree that autogynephiles use dress and behaviour to satisfy a compulsion to create the ideal body for self attraction. What happens when they grow old?
@-Mitra-
10 ай бұрын
They are autogerontophilled, probably 😂
@mhusa2911
10 ай бұрын
the same thing that happens to women when they get old.
@-Mitra-
10 ай бұрын
@@mhusa2911 your generalization is utterly sick. You are a man rejected by many women, aren't you?
@mhusa2911
10 ай бұрын
im not sure why you think it's sick. what im suggesting is that most older people are not nearly as attractive as when they were in their youth. that's a biological reality. im married for 20 years with 3 children. seems silly to guess properties about my social life based on a stated and empirically obvious fact that older people are less attractive than when they were in their youth and many struggle with that fact as evidenced by the multi billion dollar cosmetics industry and the multi billion dollar plastic surgery industry.
@-Mitra-
10 ай бұрын
@@mhusa2911 once again: your generalization is sick. And it is not a problem of the whole humankind that your family/relatives are not attractive and handsome, this get somewhat unpleasant looks with age. You didn't respond to my question: are you a man?
20:00 I’m a gay dude, and I can kind of see the concerns some people have about gay or trans people teaching kids at school. But I worry that “LGB or T” has now been conflated with teaching specific and sexual ideologies to kids…on either side. Parents express concern about the subject matter being taught to kids and some in the LGBT world lose their minds…their parents are bigots!!! Whereas it may not be WHO is doing the teaching, but rather the subject matter. If I were teaching and had a male partner, I’d imagine keeping my personal life rather private. Or at least develop understanding relationships with the parents. Of course I don’t know all the stresses of teaching.
@TrebleSum
10 ай бұрын
Thanks to Peter (& team) for yet another interesting & enjoyable conversation. Britain definitely suits you. I appreciate people like Debbie for taking part & being honest about their experiences. More often than not people run from defending their positions. To find a channel that explores human behaviour & the theory of knowledge is such a treat for me, I appreciate you!
@carolphillips682
10 ай бұрын
Chromosomes don’t lie but some individuals do
@Enhancedlies
10 ай бұрын
fucking class, love Peter and Debbie is great. thanks for this!
@WaltT-q4n
5 ай бұрын
Why would Peter strongly agree on the gender issue? Being politically correct?
@richardfeit8296
10 ай бұрын
This was informative. Thank you both.
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jayWalk8
7 ай бұрын
Started off well but DH said he didn't know what the word gender meant but went on to use when discussing if sex is binary - saying there were multiple genders.
@TagSpamCop
10 ай бұрын
53:15 Also, this "age of majority" is a best-guess. Which is why I'm against adults transitioning no questions asked. A kid on their 18th birthday isn't wiser or smarter than they were at 17 yrs 364 days old. It's an artifical barrier in many ways, but something needs to be there. But for that reason, we should be careful about adults being able to transition no questions asked. You're still laregly psychologically immature until about 25, for example.
@jessykaiser6373
10 ай бұрын
Great show & conversation, by the way, Peter! I love what you do.
@drpeterboghossian
10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@PaulVolcko
10 ай бұрын
Lol. He prefaces the question asking age, but let's rip with deeply personal questions about sexual function and degree of transition.
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