David nailed it at 3:44, his pronounciation was on point also
@manatanemanaora9343
8 жыл бұрын
Missionary Henry Williams and his son Edward, both of European descent were given the task of drafting the treaty, because they knew the Māori language. But my question? Did they understand Maori?? Did they understand the infinitive dimension of Maori language, Example: the word MAURI is dimensional , does not have a single definition. Therefore, Why should there have been two NON-MAORI, be given the right to translate for Maori! e.g. "It's like a Hindu trying to teach the HAKA to Maori"
@hleituala698
5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered this too.
@dgm2593
7 ай бұрын
Maori didnt have an abstract concept of the english language let alone what the word sovereignty means? Those Warrior Chiefs only understood Mana and Power. Not bow down and surrender or ceded sovereignty?
@Kiatamau
6 жыл бұрын
Not enough people Maori or Pakeha understand the Depth and Extent of the Treaty of Waitangi What the Treaty means to me as a New Zealander The Security and Administrative care and we'll being of 1) The People i.e Maori and Pakeha 2) The Land Air Animals Plants 3) The Streams Rivers Lakes and Sea We totally ignore the Sovereign Rights of our Environment and Animal Security Administrative Care this is my Maori understanding of The Treaty of Waitangi Kaitiakitanga Guardians of our World The Treaty has not failed us We have both failed the Treaty in it's entirety I believe if we had paid more attention to our first concern Security of our Lands and the health and we'll being of our Environment we may have taken better care of ourselves So the Maori got Cheated and The Pakeha got Scammed and the Land and Environment Lost their Guardians The Treaty has never Failed anyone But we failed Maori and Pakeha Failed to be that Security and Administrative Care for the Health and Well being of our Land Fauna and Flora Waters and Sea Today We are taking better care of our Land and Environment as far as Uniting together in Securing the Health and Well being of our Land and Environment we Protest and Demonstrate as Maori and Pakeha together This is for me The only way we can Stop Cheating Maori and Scamming Pakeha of their true relationship here in Aotearoa New Zealand
@vwwilson9299
5 жыл бұрын
If some politicians learnt te reo maori that would mean more than their promises because it would show commitment and they would see Te tiriti O Waitangi through maori eyes which they can't see through their Pakeha eyes, they would see that they not only forced the treaty upon maori but also their ways, beliefs, language and structures, now they're forced to listen to maori to make right what their ancestors made wrong in the beginning.
@davethewave7248
Жыл бұрын
There are always two sides to the story... or rather, mulitple interpretations. Waikato, for example, was confiscated because Maori rejected British sovereignty and set up their own. This was either done in contrdaiction to the Treaty [where sovereignty was ceded to the Crown] or done because certain cheifs did not sign it. War was the end result.
@tribesmann8800
7 жыл бұрын
The Maori are sovereign people of nz but pakeha wanted to control it. Start again give it back, let them have it and I'm sure there will be a different outcome, Maori will share it.
@Saxtafunkta-fecta
7 жыл бұрын
Its no surprise Aotearoa is worth the fight,its land ,rivers,mountains and beachs where the great fish spawn their eggs heck the native Kiwi bird gave ups its wings to live here.Lets all enjoy it,s fruits with the only lifetime we have besides the few who want to keep it for them selves.The treaty is a complicated and time consuming process and its negotiators have the hard task in doing the right thing for all the people of New Zealand on both sides .
@piecritic4607
7 жыл бұрын
any college students here?
@tribesmann8800
7 жыл бұрын
Jim bulger, doug kidd and that other bloke, they said a lot of nice flowery words back then, and now it's just lot of empty crock !
@brianaugust7134
7 жыл бұрын
aotearoa new Zealand was our country anyway
@AucklandHard
7 жыл бұрын
Brian August bro how can the pakeha think that for one second that the Maori don't deserve what already belonged to them it's ridiculous
@brianaugust7134
7 жыл бұрын
we were raped murdered of our land from crown king Queen of England
@AucklandHard
7 жыл бұрын
Brian August true
@jayfallen3652
6 жыл бұрын
We don't celebrate qb because of the history should not be a public holiday
@zardosspinosa6944
5 жыл бұрын
Brian August a complete load of nonsense, what is true is the left's indoctrination of white guilt and the perpectuation of fake history
@honesaurusrex5023
5 жыл бұрын
get to know it, its our history, its not racial, that is not our history, it should be honored, its not about genocide its about coming together as one, Unity, celebrating things genocide is not ok.
@davethewave7248
Жыл бұрын
Here's an idea... make a video giving more than one view [the radical one].
@torqingheads
3 жыл бұрын
Upoke is the term for Maori slaves. They were about 80% of the population prior to the Europeans. They were the primary source of protein in what was a horrific degeneration of Polynesian society into rampart structural cannibalism - a period of horror that lasted some 500 years until they were rescued by the European The Maori had come with the original Polynesian caste structure of royals, bonded commoners after being outcast and set adrift on rafts to end up stranded in NZ. Within a recorded period of about 8 generations this then degenerated into 9 different language groups ( no common language) and a horrific two tier ethnically and racially based caste structure. - Ariki / from the original royal elite - these were documented and painted or drawn as lighter to white skinned, wiry, smaller boned, fine featured, thin nose, thin lipped, straight hair, anxious, aggressive cannibalistic ruling class. Upoke / from the original bonded commoners (such bonding or serfdom broke down in NZ as land was unconstrained) and slaves. Upoke or poke was used in conjunction with Kuku or Kiko ie a Upoke Kiko was slave flesh - or else poke singular or pokes group). The Upoke slaves were the 'wealth' of the Maoris and raiding and capturing other clans and tribes Upoke was the primary industry of the Maoris. These Upoke were dark skinned, larger limbed, thick lipped, flat nosed, curly haired, easily fattened, low IQ and sedentary. The settlements of the Maoris (Pa's) were in valley passes where they could anticipate attack from the sea and run into the bush behind. A Pa's very design is as a cannibal storage camp of humans as slave eating flesh with perimeters controlling access and confining the slaves. Have a good look at the original designs of the Pa's and what their real purpose was. Upoke females were normally killed and eaten at birth but on arrival of the Europeans -( trade was for Upoke boiled male heads carved with European arabesques eg 'Maori Moko designs - all European) but with a shortage of that & the trade being policed - the Maori Ariki turned to selling young Upoke slave girls to the sailors and settlers for guns. Often as records show, the Ariki would line up the young Upoke on the beach or field and then tell the Europeans they would all be slaughtered and eaten unless the European met their demands. As such the European settlements were flooded with Upoke slaves, mainly young females being the demand. The Europeans bred with these slave females gave immunity to the mixed race offspring disease such as measles & flu that full blood Maori did not have. Again this is subject to much record (1880 onwards) about the 'revitalization' and out breeding of the Maori being their only path of survival / there was much concern the Maori would become extinct so all Europeans & Maori were much focused on such outbreeding to ensure that a trace of Maori may exist in the future. By 1903 there were no Ariki left and only 14 very old full blood Upoke. The last full blood died in 1944 - as reported by the minister of Maori affairs much later to the NZ parliament. The marked differences between the Ariki and the slave caste were much commented on, discussed and captured in paintings & portraits. Almost all Maori today would be offspring of Europeans & Upoke slaves - the filters of inter Maori fratricide between the Ariki clans & disease acted as an filter to remove both Ariki and full bloods.
@torqingheads
3 жыл бұрын
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. . Before the advantage of European DNA Maori suffered terrible inbreeding issues [they are descended from only 150 closely related individuals and an estimated 30% of Maori babies were killed and eaten at birth because of deformities] Maori DNA is the most similar yet studied. Outcast as weaker primitive Neolithic people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger races coming from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and stopped cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede any claim and give up and die as an original society - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of almost totally European people fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits.
@rangitaukiri3958
4 жыл бұрын
Tino rangatiratanga
@simondelaney2958
5 жыл бұрын
Yep the British invaded and stole the land, end of story so they should hand it back to the Maori and they should control the country as they used to do. The British not only did it there but they did it in Australia, America, South Africa and in total at one point they tried to enforce their will in a total of 80 countries.
@antmanatthemoment7233
Жыл бұрын
Ok then, should Ngai Tahu return the South Island to Ngati Kuri?
@davethewave7248
Жыл бұрын
'We're descended from cheats". lol. Actually, our forebears the British brought justice, law and order to the globe... just as Romans brought civilization to Europe.
@davethewave7248
Жыл бұрын
News alert: colonialism was the best thing not the worst thing that happened to these islands.^^
@fabiandavey5846
3 жыл бұрын
the government didn't repect the treaty of waitangi. And still don't. why should we repect your laws or pay rent you charge us to live on our lands you took. And gave it to your people but the didn't give the maori land for fighting for them. To turn on there own. Just the white man.
@rangitaukiri3958
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a kiwi
@rangitaukiri3958
4 жыл бұрын
Kiwis have no god an have my tino rangatiratanga utu
@rangitaukiri3958
4 жыл бұрын
Or you can go back to England an Finnish your grandparents time in jail before England made new Zealand
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