I think a good explanation for why the D7 is so blocky compared to the Enterprise era ships is that the D7 was designed and built during a time of rather intense war. I believe that at the time the Klingons were at war with both the Federation and the Romulans and neither front was going as well as had been expected. So they needed ships that could be built reliably and fast.
@poseidon5003
Жыл бұрын
The Klingon's weren't at war with the Romulan's at that time.
@Galvars
8 жыл бұрын
Bridgenism... well that's rad!
@ckos1978
8 жыл бұрын
I agree with Stuart about the ship being a later design. Reminds me of the Vorcha wings. I still thing the whole ship looks Romulan too.
@90lancaster
8 жыл бұрын
If I had to Hazard a Guess I would say this is the class the Klingon's use for Planetary Landing requirements. Just taking the Eaglemoss one off the stand and setting it down on a surface shows it's well shaped to land. If any one of the 3 was a Romulan Tech transfer I'd say it was the D5 but not from the Romulans but to the Romulans and they liked it so much it influenced a lot of theor future designs. That said the warp engines of the Klingon Raptor ship and the shape of the rear hull are similar to the 22nd Century Romulan Bird of Prey. I read sometimes some odd tech stats that say the Raptor's wing pods just contain fuel and some thrusters - but I consider that someone playing silly bu**ers with the stats as it does make more sense for the engines to be on the ends of the wings to me - by the look and shape of them. If you look at all the 22nd Century Klingon fleet they seem to be experimenting with different engine placements as is also implied by the Klingon Augment's ship too. As for the Head part - I'd suggest it's a little like the Vor'cha's head in shape.
@jamieolberding7731
5 жыл бұрын
The Klingon Raptor class is cool. It's a shame it only appeared only once on screen. I wish we could have seen it in a skirmish with the Enterprise NX-01.
@cdlord80
5 жыл бұрын
"Brand not new" has now been entered into my lexicon for all eternity.
@spammeaccount
8 жыл бұрын
Rear lighting. Center top is just the mess hall with disco night lighting. :-) The Blue are atmospheric engines with thrust vectoring. The 4 little red ones are impulse engines. The far outside pontoons are just the warp nacelles. This might be more of a Destroyer than a Frigate.
@lordbalok6298
2 жыл бұрын
Length was 165 meters, beam was 115 meters, with a crew compliment of 12. Cruising speed of Warp 6 (old scale), armed with disruptors and photon torpedoes. It's actually the same length as the much later B'rel class BoP, but far less sophisticated. Small crew due to the drastically smaller interior volume, but more than a match militarily to the NX-class at the time of their first encounter. The Raptor's bridge had only three stations with several monitors around the outer edges.
@josephd-smith4910
8 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual!
@josephd-smith4910
8 жыл бұрын
Is it just me but does it look like a closed x-wing.
@bucktaylor2304
8 жыл бұрын
i think its time for a all new k'tinga class . like a post voyager look
@kjpedersen778
8 жыл бұрын
I love those Trekyardian neologisms!
@Chrissweet1701
4 жыл бұрын
The raptor line goes to the negvar the d5 goes to the d7 and the bird of prey follows its line. They are all beautiful ships that you just love in one way or another. You can follow the directions in the classes as you go forward in time
@JessHull
8 жыл бұрын
I like these longer format episodes. I'm not usually a huge fan of the klingon aesthetic but this ship is rather nice. I didn't know much about it, I just remember seeing it and actually liking it. FYI, when the wings are upswept its referred to as "dihedral" and when they are drooping downward its referred to as "anhedral", and though it doesn't apply to this ship when there are elements of both it is referred to as polyhedral. I do agree the ship looks much more aggressive IMO with a dihedral wing position.
@jaddokproductions2470
25 күн бұрын
that antena is to watch reruns of I Love Lucey
@thribs
8 жыл бұрын
Those Romulans must have stolen some Klingon technology.
@WakeRoberts
8 жыл бұрын
I like the ship. It's much better than the ENT BOP. I had a thought though, could the "rigging" be a primitive sensor array or subspace antennae? Perhaps suspended above the hull to eliminate resonance interference from the engines? Seems a good explanation to me.
@JimbobHarrigan1984
8 жыл бұрын
The Raptor was classed as a scout ship, mission profiles would be patrol duties and recon for the main Klingon battle fleets
@90lancaster
8 жыл бұрын
+Blood Raven The Briefing given for it's design seemed to be for a Scout/cargo ship of modest size - originally it was really small almost Runabout small - as the script evolved the need increased to make it bigger. Also a bit of K'Tinga & Vor'cha design cues slipped in to it as well. After watching the Scimitar episode just now I also notice this is another John Eaves ship with a similar double pointed prow. He really does like that look - is he a fan of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century or something ?
Speaking as the captain of the KAG ship Crimson Hunter of the Crimson Knight Fleet. It is not the size of the ship, the number of crew or weapons but the skill of the warrior that carries the day commander.
@90lancaster
8 жыл бұрын
You could always ask John if he thinks the wings move - as that might be what the rigging on it it is for if it could be to move the wings - otherwise my other idea would be they are coolant or plasma pipes to transfer either of those things from the main engineering to the nacelles. They could simple be a structural reinforcement to help with warp field balance or to help prevent stress on the wings when flying in an atmosphere with the shields down. So they could be simply be coolant pipes or they could be structural supports - I like them though as it is a design cue that allows you to see immediately that it's a 22nd Century ship. so that it does not look to advanced like say Xindi ships tend to do. [edit] Sorry to be Spamming so much - but The Enterprise D does indeed have the saucer Impulse drives in full operation all the time (excluding stock footage) in later TNG seasons - go look at a few shots from Season 6 you will soon spot the change (so long as it's not stock footage). Makes sense as the D was not especially manoeuvrable compared to something like Voyager or Defiant. p.s This one was designed first and was supposed to be a D7 predecessor - however script wise it is more of a freighter. the joke in that being that they later used a D5 as a glorified freighter too. so in effect meaning the only 22nd century main ship we see that isn't also a cargo ship in some form is the Bird of Prey. (excluding the Augments ships or support vessels/ shuttles)
@Trekyardswebseries
8 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Enterprise D. Only all 3 lit up in later seasons. Early seasons (first 2 I think) the saucer ones are off. After the minor upgrade end of season 2 the ship uses all 3. We discuss that in our Galaxy class episode.
@90lancaster
8 жыл бұрын
+Trekyards Yes that was why I specified "in later seasons" and mentioned new shots that are not stock footage. Extra engines should help with the steering too I would expect. I lit all 3 when I made my Model kit of the D - just because it looked nicer like that.
@Lokiawa
8 жыл бұрын
In Legacy the Raptor is on par with the Poseidon class (the Miranda of the NX era, what a cool ship it was). That said the Raptor in Legacy would not last against an NX class by itself but with another Klingon ship they could pound on the NX as a team, but that's against an A.I. not so well against a player NX ship haha...😅
@90lancaster
8 жыл бұрын
I think the "In continuity" explanation (excluding the misplaced K'Tinga in Enterprise) would be something like this. 22nd Century ships are assembled out of pieces and some of the technology and connections are external not internal probably so any malfunctions in things like coolant pipes vent to space and not inside the ship. They require a lot of external maintenance - Since the discovered the usefulness of the Klingon technique of hiding in a Planet's Ocean or in side a Gash Giants atmosphere was one they liked making the ships slightly more covered and armoured was thus helpful with that and also with hiding sensor signatures and eventually the cloak function. It's possible the "Duel Shield & deflectors" function seen in the Constitution Class may also be introduced requiring a tighter shield envelope and less sticking out parts. That would be true of both the D-7 & K'Tinga. Then when more powerful weapons begin to be introduced like Plasma Torpedoes & Higher yield Photon Torpedos and phasers/Distruptors more physical armour would make sense - allowing the ship to take surface hits without hitting a major component as easily and also to minimise thermal shock splash into the hull when fired on. So you go from poorly armoured to modestly armoured to heavily armoured. That more or less makes sense to me. I would guess 25th & 26th century designs might start to push back to cleaner looks though - if one takes the Dauntless & Relativity as a possible point of inspiration for what the future might hold overall and extend that to Klingons too.
@saijex
8 жыл бұрын
Once I got my Eaglemoss ones, I figured the raptor was more advanced. Weapons aren't as obvious and that seems more advanced.
@ExUSSailor
8 жыл бұрын
The I.K.S. Somraw had a crew of 12.
@kurumais
8 жыл бұрын
i love that ship i think it fits perfectly in the klingon fleet and doesnt look romulan
@Trekyardswebseries
8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think you misunderstood us.
@kurumais
8 жыл бұрын
Trekyards i wrote as i put the vid on before i listened to you . i meant some klingon ship look like they might jave been romulan at 1 point. this doesnt. but i think the the d 5 is my favorite .
@nightwingnum1226
5 жыл бұрын
Then Came The Romulans who out Sized everyone!
@mbmajor01
8 жыл бұрын
Iv seen a lot of Klingon ships that are "bigger" than star fleet ships bit are narrow so I think the smaller starfleet ships have more room and crew because of the bigger surface area of the saucer just a thought
@seanoneill9606
3 жыл бұрын
In the episode Sleeping Dogs this was a raiding ship.
@alaskanchristian4881
7 жыл бұрын
It is a Fast Attack Ship, filled with a load of Torpedoes. Fast hit and run Torpedo Attacks. Where I get this. Note the engine size.... While in the gas giant they used Torpedoes to escape the Gas Giants gravity. After the Crew was awake and the enraged Captain wanting to Attack the Enterprise. Captain Archer says, your supply of Torpedoes is exhausted. Noting he was Toothless. If the Klingon had Disruptors I have no doubt he would have used them or ordered them armed to bluster.
@90lancaster
8 жыл бұрын
P.s. a Fun article to read when you recall that the D-7 was shown in the 22nd century as well as the 23rd & 24th : www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/klingon-battlecruiser.htm What on earth the producers were drinking when they put a late 23rd & 24th Century version of a Battlecruier in a 22nd century situation I have no clue. Especially when the John Eves D4 is pretty darn spot on for the time period. memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/D4_class_(concept)
@darthdraco3052
8 жыл бұрын
I have a question. The bridge module has those struts that look to be holding it in place, do you think that in an emergency they would break away so the bridge module would work like an escape pod?
@All-the-wonderful-stars
8 жыл бұрын
+Darth Draco that would imply klingons have escape pods
@MrClassicor
8 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this called a "Raptor class scout ship" in the show? I think I remember something along those lines, will have to rewatch the episode to be sure though
@brianhinton4765
8 жыл бұрын
It is a greater glory to take out a larger more powerful opponent. The Raptor is a hardy little scrapper ship.. It's more Tactical then the larger battleships and cruisers.
@oliusas9604
8 жыл бұрын
Hello Trekyards, I think your Channel is really awesome, but I would really appriciate it if you covered the eaglemoss starships line a little more.
@sedimaster
8 жыл бұрын
I like to think they were smaller because the Empire was smaller and they did not have the materials to make bigger ships.
@waltzworth
6 жыл бұрын
This sounds dumb but through out all the series TNG and onward that Klingon anatomy had a redundant design wouldn't you think that this would be incorporated in ship builds? Though I may have over thought this.
@illmade2
8 жыл бұрын
based on what I remember from the episode, I always thought of it as a raiding vessel..
@Anlushac11
7 жыл бұрын
I dont like that the Klingon ship size diagram showed the D-7 as being smaller than a K'tinga since K'Tinga was a improved D-7 class ship. What is listed as a D-7 should be a D-6 Klolode class
@enterprise-h312
8 жыл бұрын
Raptor ... that name sounds Romulan to me. As for its purpose, the name to me suggests a raider of sorts which goes in alone to pursue honor for maybe young warriors.
@donaldhill3823
6 жыл бұрын
I do not see the Klingon's having a dedicated science ship. Obviously they have science in order to advance their warships but they would not build a science/exploration ship. Klingon's build Scouts, Raiders, Patrol-ships, Battleships, not science ships. The fact that the Klingon's discount Scientific advancement would explain how the Federation namely Earth not only catches up to an established Space fairing Civilization which should be at least a couple hundred years more advanced but surpasses it by the TOS era... side note: I like this ship but just realized it looks like the Hatchet fighter from "Buck Rogers"
@redshark611
8 жыл бұрын
One thing such a small ship would be doing would be patrolling the borders so they would see more battle they the battleships of the KDF
@spammeaccount
8 жыл бұрын
+Charles Bowerman (Redshark611) And inspecting freighters and colonies of neighboring territories for "contraband".
@pvtspartan
8 жыл бұрын
Star Trek Online classifies it as a Escort I think
@johnhurst7226
8 жыл бұрын
no The NX 01 crew size is 83 not 100+
@evangreen3080
8 жыл бұрын
Trek for me is weird in that the smoothness of TOS ships doesn't really fit into the subsequent timeline (whether ENT or TOS Movies), but as a fan you let it go. I'm not a fan of ENT or most of the ships thereon, but of all its Klingon ships, I think this one is the most interesting. For me, the ENT Klingon BoP is the cutest in that it looks like STIII BoP anime'd-up, but it's therefore cheesy and unrealistic. The raptor is cool in that it introduces a new shape & type of ship for the Klingons. The Federation has countless varied configurations, whereas the Klingons are one-note. Regardless what this ship's purpose is, it's different, and that diversity makes the monoculture at least that much less problematic. I'd love to see raptors and refits from different eras.
@TheCastellan
8 жыл бұрын
+Evan Green the smoothness of TOS feels far more advanced than Ent or TOS films to me.
@evangreen3080
8 жыл бұрын
+TheCastellan I agree. I remember hating the runabout the first time I saw it, thinking it was the cheesiest Starfleet design I'd seen in a while, regressing Trek technology to typical B-movie levels. I thought the same with the armament numbers on the Scimitar - 52 disruptor canons, 27 torpedo launchers... TOS E always fired from the same two phasers and torpedo tubes and you feared its futuristic power.
@ckos1978
8 жыл бұрын
I say the warp nacelles look Romulan.
@davidponseigo8811
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong show gentleman, BSG is a different universe .
@EroomYrrah
8 жыл бұрын
re engines...how about BOP has centre bore engine, RPT has win tip engines, D5 has both
@jeremyfrerichs
8 жыл бұрын
Klingon Rapture SomRa. Since they didn't say its name.
@bucktaylor2304
8 жыл бұрын
was there not a D7 in the first series of enterprise ?
@power543
8 жыл бұрын
+Jam T Yes but its been called a mistake by all involved
@bucktaylor2304
8 жыл бұрын
lol thats a shame ,i like the D7 ,
@bucktaylor2304
8 жыл бұрын
+Jam T might be worth adding to the top 10 mistakes lol
@power543
8 жыл бұрын
Oh sure i think we are doing a fuller episode on a later and will talk about that perhaps!
@bucktaylor2304
8 жыл бұрын
can't wait, all these shows are extremely good and i can't wait for the next one ,
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