Years ago, tried to learn on my own from KZitem. Hot mess for a year. Finally hired a guide and asked him to fish with me - and below me (so I could see his cast). Gave him first swing on every run. Confused, he asked me why . . . explained because I only learn from others in real time. Within an hour, had all the casts down pat . . . and we both got into some great fish. Today, I'm casting long bellies with 14 and 16 foot rods. The key to learning how to Spey - from skagit to scandi to long belly - is knowing how you learn. I need the cast modelled below me where I can see the movements, then attempt to replicate what I just saw with the immediate feedback of mistakes and successes. That said, this was a great trout skagit spey video! As good a teaching video as there is for learning skagit. Totally get it, but couldn't learn it from video alone.
@redsflyshop
10 ай бұрын
GREAT testimonial. I do this with clients that trust that my interest is solely in helping them.
@jessebourneau6426
10 ай бұрын
Operative word there is trust
@MrKveite1
6 ай бұрын
There are no complicated thing in speycasting,the lower hand does the work and if you stop the rod fairly high and make sure the stop is instant you are basicly good. Then you do the same from the other side and you are good anywhere. You dont need 13 different casts if you can cast from both sides. This is basic and simple and it CAN be done in complicated ways but i dont see any reason to do that.Dont need a double spey and dont need a skagitcast. Learn to cast from both sides. It will make your life a LOT easier.
@jimsporrong8196
11 ай бұрын
Outstanding video breaking down the components of the spey cast. Really appreciate Joe and Red's investing the time to put together these informative training tools!
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@paulprosser8308
12 күн бұрын
Would a 10 ft 5 wt rod be appropriate for this style casting? I am actually in TX and normally bank fish ponds for LMB.
@redsflyshop
11 күн бұрын
Absolutely, you can single hand spey cast just fine. The line we prefer for that is the OPST Commando system and a 10' 5 weight would typically work well with a 225 grain head and 96 grain OPST tips (Riffle, Run, Bucket) sink rates. If you give us a call we can put together this order for you.
@EdJenkins-KC
11 ай бұрын
Bought a trout Spey two years ago, very frustrated trying to get the techniques down. Love your teaching style with simplicity and repeating. Thanks so much for the video. You have motivated me to give it another try!
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
Excellent! This is exactly what motivates me is we all approach a technique with a picture in mind, and so often it eludes us. Keep at it!
@Nrussell11
2 ай бұрын
Would love a video on 1 and 2wt trout speys, scandi lines, and swinging wet flies in the summer.
@redsflyshop
2 ай бұрын
Oh you bet, that would be great. We don't seem to do as well for our fish here with smaller flies but that is likely a "me" issue and I need to get better at this.
@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins
8 ай бұрын
good stuff!
@5199John
11 ай бұрын
Nice presentation, Joe! Very well dissected and presented. I fish smaller rivers than you enjoy which also have willow and alder brush over hanging the banks. What would you recommend on the cast setup for situations where you cannot form the D loop behind you? Thanks!
@FlyFishingChronicles
8 ай бұрын
How much line should I let outside of the tip ring?
@redsflyshop
8 ай бұрын
Well, I think you are referring to how much line outside the rod tip if I understand correctly. You'll want just about 6" of the thin running line for a "baseline" then as you get dialed into a certain rig, fly, or depth of water you can adjust. If you are wading deep you'll often want the back of the shooting right at the rod tip. If you are ankle deep then you might want up to 2' of the skinny running line hanging out. Play around with it, but start with a consistent overhang.
@FlyFishingChronicles
8 ай бұрын
@@redsflyshop THX!
@TutorialTim
5 ай бұрын
As always, an impressive amount of knowledge demonstrated. Thank you!
@redsflyshop
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
@tomt5176
11 ай бұрын
Hey Reds. That was a lot of really good 2 handed information packed in there and none of which I’ve ever tried. Many years now with the 1 hand stuff for me. Looks pretty cool though and interesting to learn. Thanks for the deep dive.
@devinshook3289
9 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on scandi heads and casting?
@redsflyshop
9 ай бұрын
That's a good suggestion, I just got back from a steelhead trip and it was 90% Scandi. Good for smaller flies, but very useful skills to learn as many of them can be applied to your Skagit rigs too.
@fishduckdog
5 ай бұрын
What size # reel do you have on that rig?
@redsflyshop
5 ай бұрын
7+
@Clockeman
11 ай бұрын
You're not kidding about getting it down in your head...on the river it becomes a big NOW WHAT situation and you really need to be able to settle down and go through the step.
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
Ha yes! Love this comment. The "now what"? is exactly right. I see this a lot even when I just finished teaching the casts in person. Having a plan and full understanding is key.
@markrasmussen1504
3 ай бұрын
Great video. Been fishing r handed for many years and am picking up two-handed hoping for less stress on my wrist and shoulder, so far so good. I find that when i get a couple of crappy casts, it helps me to think about how this is different than one handed casting. That usually straightens things out.
@redsflyshop
3 ай бұрын
You can do it! Thanks for the kind feedback.
@blueridgeflyguy9551
11 ай бұрын
I am thinking of trying out a Spey rod but for smallmouth bass. The big water near me is more smallmouth territory vs. trout. Much of it is challenging to wade fish because of its size an depth and I think the Spey cast could be a game changer. What wt rod would you recommend for smallies that could be over 20’?
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
I would get a 5-weight switch rod, max of 11' as a stout rod will allow you to twitch and pop flies and makes casting heavier flies easier. There are lots of options, so it can be very brand dependent based on your loyalty to certain companies. Shooting from the hip, the Beulah G2 in the 5/6 would be my choice. Pair that up with a RIO Mini Max 325 Integrated line.... wooohee... Add some Light MOW tips and you'll really have a hot setup there. redsflyfishing.com/products/beulah-platinum-g2-switch-rods
@chrisruef9221
10 ай бұрын
Second time watching. It reinforced everything that Joe discussed. Anchor, D Loop, Cast. Write it down on the visor of your hat.
@redsflyshop
10 ай бұрын
I love that, "write it on the bill of your hat" hahah. Thanks for the props Chris. Appreciate it.
@shawncarmody1500
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to produce this.
@daveschlom4033
11 ай бұрын
Oh man. This couldn't have been better timed. After an introductory lesson and a trip on the lower Sacramento River, I have decided to go all in on trout spey. Buying a set up at my local fly shop tomorrow. You are such an excellent teacher. I love your videos. Gonna watch this one with my rod butt section in my hands until I have every word and move memorized. I have already caught fish with limited skills. Can't wait to improve upon them. Thank you so much!❤
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
Thanks very much, if you have any trouble locating what you need at the local shop please reach out. We have a huge inventory and ship SAME DAY. 😀
@pierceflynn9308
11 ай бұрын
Hey Joe, great Spey tutoring! Have you ever used an indicator and nymphs with this Spey rod? Or only single streamers?
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
I have. I did that for summer steelhead enough times to learn that "yes" you can cover a crap ton of water but it's messy, hard to mend, the heads are super think and you get more drag than with a standard setup. Hook sets are like car wreck. Pretty messy. In a pinch (like if you put on a RIO Switch Indicator Line), you can certainly do it if you packed one rod for the day but it wouldn't be my first choice. redsflyfishing.com/products/rio-elite-switch-indicator
@fisher-of-men1547
8 ай бұрын
I'm just curious as to whether I can use these casts you've demonstrated with my Mystic 11'3" 8wt switch rod ? I currently have a thicker portion shooting head (?) fly line on the front end, about 20'+ long, then the thinner fly line & unfortunately I don't have the box for that shooting head line any longer & don't remember the weight, etc. ( recommended by a local shop for Salmon & Steelhead here in Michigan, but that shops not in business an longer ) For sometime I actually use a cast I found on your KZitem channel, that you taught I believe, that does a single overhead cast. That overhead cast works fine ( so far ) on the rivers in MI from my Hyde because there's no shoreline, or trees nearby as the river is pretty wide, but I'd like to know if these casts would work better & make my casting easier. I'd like to hear your thoughts & recommendations Thank you, David Fisher-of-Men Fly Tying & Fly Fishing Instruction Ada, MI
@redsflyshop
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@fisher-of-men1547
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for answering my rather long question !! Once it warms up a bit here & the water levels come down I'd like to go to local spot & give the casts a try. Thanks again !! David Fisher-of-Men Ada, MI
@TomMarch-kq5ug
7 ай бұрын
outstanding sir !! and I love your shop when I'm in town.....
@redsflyshop
7 ай бұрын
Thank you, see ya then!
@mikdin1
11 ай бұрын
Hey Joe-- great video. Right up my alley, beginner all the way. I have a nice NOS Redington Hydrogen Trout Spey rod gonna give a go. It's the 11'6 4 wt. The OPST Commando head-- 250 or 275 grain? Thanks.
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
New to spey, go 275 on that rig. It will force you to go slow and let the flex of that rod send the line. 96 Grain OPST tips will be excellent on that rig. At 11'6" you'll really need to go SLOW and not "blow your anchor". Keep that fly stuck to the water... then send it!
@mikdin1
11 ай бұрын
Great thanks Joe!@@redsflyshop
@clintlunsford9944
11 ай бұрын
"in the comfort of your own living room"... come on... we're all in our offices.
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
hahahah. #truth Good reminder that being employed is a pre-req to buying fishing gear. 😁
@uramag7
11 ай бұрын
i have this same rod and really love it.. more smaller spey rods need to be sub 11 feet
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
Oh awesome, nice rod. For those reading, this very rod is 33% off at Red's right now! Shop while supplies last. redsflyfishing.com/products/rl-winston-boron-iii-th-micro-spey-trout-rods
@robertmulloy4788
9 ай бұрын
Great video. I had a question on what knot you used when connecting your running line to the shooting head? Loop to loop but what was tied at the end of the running line?
@redsflyshop
9 ай бұрын
I use a "Double Surgeon's Loop" from my running line to the shooting head for the loop-to-loop connection. Does this answer your question?
@robertmulloy4788
9 ай бұрын
Yes, yes it does. Thank you very much.@@redsflyshop
@davidwood6171
9 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for all the info!
@redsflyshop
9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@justingatewood1031
10 ай бұрын
Outstanding. Giving Simon a run for his money.
@redsflyshop
9 ай бұрын
Ha not quite, but thank you. Very kind. I took some lessons from Simon. Really an amazing guy and instructor.
@TomMarch-kq5ug
7 ай бұрын
No shit....
@sylviawenger1421
10 ай бұрын
Wow Best Presentation I have ever seen
@redsflyshop
10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, super appreciate that!
@tellytulear
11 ай бұрын
U are a master teacher Joe…. Thanks!
@redsflyshop
11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate that. Thanks for watching and I hope some of this material is resonating with you.
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