Ive watchedmy parents and brother descend into extreme Christian Nationalism. I'm so exhausted of their gaslighting and bigitry; my own daughter is bisexual, yet they claim that anything aside from saving yourself for heterosexual marriage is "the devil's work." This is inspiring. Thank you for speaking out! This is true bravery. ❤
@mammawlee
Ай бұрын
Sorry.I I know it's weird. Most of my extended family is White. I have a niece with a gay daughter, but she is pro-Trump!
@catcardinalli197
Ай бұрын
I’m SO sorry for the division trump has wrought within your family. I’m afraid you will have to adopt the coping mechanism I have had to employ with my own family & husband of 41 years. NEVER TALK politics with your loved ones. Agree to disagree, & shut down any political talk. Otherwise you will have NO relationship with your friends & family. Sad.
@user-wd3po8sd7k
Ай бұрын
All but three of us in my family are Trump supporters, so I get it.
@chikaka2012
Ай бұрын
Perhaps the word “devil’s work” is a bit extreme, but Biblical teachings don’t support extramarital sex in any form. However, if someone doesn’t believe or know the Bible you can’t hold them to this standard. It sounds like much of your family has gone way beyond disagreeing with the bisexual lifestyle, however, and are actively attacking & attempting to force their faith on others. If that worked (which it doesn’t) that wouldn’t be faith anyway! Jesus won people over to a faith & a walk that he himself admitted is not easy through his love & forgiveness, not through hatred & condemnation. The condemnation he did exhibit was reserved for the religious elite of his own time & people. Those Pharisees he criticized were exactly like the white Christian nationalists today.
@bzb2932
Ай бұрын
I'm sorry this is happening to you. Mass psychosis is REAL. I know it may be hard to accept, but it's a thing. Check it out.
@dougrodriguez4977
Ай бұрын
As a conservative christian, thank you for the work you are doing. It is extremely important to talk about the danger of religious fanaticism.
@user-wd3po8sd7k
Ай бұрын
You’re a conservative Christian? You are not for Trump? Can you please try to convince other conservatives that he is not God?
@dougrodriguez4977
Ай бұрын
@@user-wd3po8sd7k I’m Catholic, my friends who are Trumpers generally are blind to what is going on or want to see it all burn down.
@mikelayton3810
Ай бұрын
@@user-wd3po8sd7k But trump says he is a god, he wouldn't lie would he.
@mogwahcrone3910
4 ай бұрын
“It is from principally White Christian Nationalism that we have the threat of Fascism in this country. “- Alan Watts 1970
@kimcole948
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this quote-a sobering reminder.
@guitarista67
4 ай бұрын
It’s because of all ignorant primitive unjustified belief that we have any of this bullshit.
@timothyfWeber
4 ай бұрын
American Taliban Tactics. Twist the " good book " in to fascist playbook.
@annieclaire2348
4 ай бұрын
@@timothyfWeber - abso-bloody-lutely right! I always think of fundamentalist christianity as NO DIFFERENT at all in form or intent than the vile fundamentalist Taliban.
@pdcdesign9632
4 ай бұрын
@timothyfWeber There is no "good book " only GOOD PEOPLE 😉
@dalesnyder4831
Ай бұрын
Yes, thank you, Ms. Neumann. And thanks, Tim, for a great guest.
@lunkis3233
4 ай бұрын
Church and state should never be mixed.
@glenjohnson5323
4 ай бұрын
If you want to see the likely results of church state entanglement check out regimes like Iran.
@lunkis3233
4 ай бұрын
@@glenjohnson5323 Exactly!
@celestialspartan1176
4 ай бұрын
I’m a Christian, and even I understand that! What happens when church and state mix? Anybody heard of The Crusades? The Spanish Inquisition?
@paulreiche2746
4 ай бұрын
For demands of 'prayer back in our schools'---- who's prayer in whose name----otherwise w/ a church/state theocracy we lose or origins and head toward inquisition from the church factions. God is teaching the unteachable.
@davidmccarthy6061
4 ай бұрын
It's almost like a group of people left Britain for that very reason.
@MamaJanella
4 ай бұрын
As a Canadian Christian, I'm watching this shit seep into my country and I am so mad. The next time a Trump supporter says "When Trump was in power, the world respected us and now they don't" ask them if they have talked with anyone outside the US, because this Canadian told you that Canada (except for Alberta) is disgusted by Trump. Canada ❤ Biden.
@gregraj
4 ай бұрын
As another Canadian, I fully second this statement. 👍🏻👍🏻
@sheribee831
4 ай бұрын
As a contrarian Albertan I am with you
@radiofreecanada
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, reporting from Edmonton; send reinforcements! Hurry!
@davidbright6790
4 ай бұрын
I'm in Australia and Trump time was a joke. After a while it just became sad that so many people in the US still love him.
@hollandanish5557
4 ай бұрын
I have been feeling that same level of frustration. I understand sort of what happened to the Conservatives in the US but the disappearance of Conservatives in Canada seems odd. I know that Reform engulfed and overtook thr party but this new bunch of right-wing extremist politicians under Poilievre seems so vile. I'm not a great fan of Trudeau's but atleast under the Liberal NDP coalition I feel like I'm looking at people I share a core set of values with whereas when I hear Poilievre or his ilk I feel like I'm watching Mini-MAGA wannabes. It's s lot of culture war nonsense slathered over with sheer awfulness. Is it just a disease we've caught from our American Cousins? Everytime I see Kevin O'leary on American media, I'm embarrassed. Guess we just have to hope Biden gets in in the States and maybe this garbage will calm down on this side of the border.
@kasperthecat44
4 ай бұрын
As a christian watching from Norway, you have no idea how different it is. One example is during WWII. When Quisling tried to take over the Lutheran church and put in nazis as priest and bishops people stopped going to that church all together. My grandparents even used a boat in secret to get to a regular church to get married.
@michaelmeroyers5487
2 ай бұрын
@@kasperthecat44 that’s really interesting Norway and thank you for your support and comments 😁😈👊👊😈😇😇🗳️🗳️🗳️
@michaelmeroyers5487
2 ай бұрын
@@kasperthecat44 also thanks for the info about the lutherans, my parents were from Europe during the 2nd WW, so interesting to hear another story about this
@lovecore3828
Ай бұрын
Wow!! In the God & Country documentary, they discuss how some Christian’s and Priests gave Hitler a religious acceptance of what he did as doing. It’s crazy!!
@GrandmaCathy
Ай бұрын
Haven’t been to church in years. They’ve gone completely off the rails.
@michaelmeroyers5487
Ай бұрын
@@GrandmaCathy me either, what for? vote blue through and through up and down the ballot no matter who and let’s vote those repugnants out of office 😈👊👊👊🐁🐀🐷🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛🐶🗳️🗳️💙💙💙🦋🦋🦋👋😄
@hangonaminute2580
4 ай бұрын
'This Is Not Christianity' screams the headline, and of course I agree with Neumann and others that many supposed Christians seem to misunderstand their own faith. But the real problem is that we can't afford to reply 'So what?' Many of us who are not Christians find it both disturbing and alarming that a debate over the true nature of any religion should have such grave implications for the destiny of a supposedly secular republic, and that this is a privilege accorded only to Christians. I am glad that Christians are having this debate, but its necessity amounts to a tragic failure of pluralism.
@animagu5of653
4 ай бұрын
YES!!! This!
@brigham2250
4 ай бұрын
I was about to post a comment similar to yours but when I read your post, you stated it perfectly. Great job and I fully agree.
@hangonaminute2580
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@grepora
4 ай бұрын
The ultimate truth about Christianity is that no one knows anything about Jesus (Yeshu). It can only be inferred that the 1st century itinerant apocalyptic Jew Yeshu was crucified. Anything else is people creating the Jesus in their mind to resemble whatever they want him to be. Paul's gospel was not about Jesus, it was about Paul. The four gospels are more fictional than historical, and each tells a different story and theology. Half of the letters attributed to Paul are considered to be forgeries. The epistles of Peter and James were not written by Peter (Cephas) of James (Jacob). Christianity is a religion based on 1st century mythology, fiction, and wishful imaginings of mostly illiterate, ignorant people who never knew the living Jesus but only believed they did. Christianity is not about the real Jesus. It is about power and control over others. It is about self-righteousness and hypocrisy. It is not about truth. It is about misguided belief.
@legndar1
4 ай бұрын
@@hangonaminute2580Q1 aqq😂😂
@marymargaretmoore9034
4 ай бұрын
My dad was a man of great faith; a pastor, seminary professor and Biblical scholar. He would be shocked and saddened at the state of right wing "so called Christianity" today.
@emp-ty-g
4 ай бұрын
it's just another kind of crazy than your dad believed. he`s was just older.
@adrianfoca865
4 ай бұрын
Or it’s also possible that your Dad could of been the ring man
@ronaldgamber1181
4 ай бұрын
Bless us maga Mike 🙏 let us pray 🙏 for democracy 🙏 ahmen
@rebelrebel10
4 ай бұрын
And yet we rarely hear any christians speak out.
@marymargaretmoore9034
4 ай бұрын
@@emp-ty-g No, he was not like them.
@MonicaLea
4 ай бұрын
While I applaud her bravery in finally speaking out, as a long time progressive, I can't help but pull my hair out in frustration at the fact that there doesn't seem to be a single Republican who has any kind of empathy until the thing that progressives have been warning y'all about actually happens to y'all personally. None of y'all believed what we were saying for decades about abortion and the consequences of Roe falling. None of y'all believed us when we told y'all over and over that right wing Christian nationalists were a way bigger threat than any Muslim anywhere in the world. Now y'all are all shocked that women are dying, people can't start families and we are on track to elect the man who instigated an attempted coup by playing on your knee jerk acceptance of anything couched in religious terms and will bring the rest of the country down when he gets back into power. And most of y'all still don't believe us on that. What will it take for y'all to actually put yourselves in someone else's shoes for once or at least listen to what we have been practically screaming about for decades? When will y'all finally put your lust for power and money aside, get the hell over your racism, disavow your religious and political extremism and do something to make the country better?
@heynowls3058
4 ай бұрын
Right! It’s also convenient in many cases. Many of these folks created climate to bring us Drump & Christo fascism.
@bcfortenberry
4 ай бұрын
Jonah Goldberg published a book called “Liberal Fascism” in 2008. He’s still treated as a serious person. These folks can’t fully think about their culpability yet. They still have to reflexively both sides.
@tonyd3057
4 ай бұрын
Biden and Clinton were the most well funded politicians of all time. Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates, Bloomberg ext ect support the democrats....what in the world are you in about??
@arcticgoddess
4 ай бұрын
Yes, that 'well I didn't think the leopard would eat MY face' lack of empathy by Conservatives is frustrating. It's been made worse by the inability of the Left and Right to share a set of facts on any issue, thanks to the right wing media propaganda. The most important thing to focus on in the moment though, is saving US, and potentially, world democracies.
@LisaFenton-h7f
4 ай бұрын
Right on! Been saying the same since the 1980s
@rtrowbridgedixon
4 ай бұрын
As a long time Buddhist, I find myself agreeing with Ms. Neumann. I deeply appreciate her version of Christianity.
@jonathandnicholson
4 ай бұрын
Is Elizabeth Neumann's 'version of Christianity' orthodox Christianity?
@Poemi10304
4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that's her version. It's in the bible.
@rastus666
3 ай бұрын
@@Poemi10304 And the Bible was a propaganda book, designed to denigrate women and pagans. Where is the Book of Mary, Jesus’ wife?
@KCAATV
2 ай бұрын
Does that include forcing women to give birth, regardless of their circumstances?
@tubulardude44
12 күн бұрын
How many versions are there? What a crock of crap! Sending my thoughts and prayers! 🤣
@seanpatrick1243
4 ай бұрын
Are you serious? Even since before Reagan, there has been no way that you can be a republican and a Christian without being an incredible hypocrite.
@michaelmeroyers5487
Ай бұрын
@@seanpatrick1243 yup you’re right about that and vote blue through and through up and down the ballot no matter who and let’s vote these repugnants out of office 👋😁😈👊👊😈😇😇😇🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🦋🦋
@seanpatrick1243
Ай бұрын
@@michaelmeroyers5487 I'm not a Dem, so I'm not voting Blue. I'm voting against Red, because ALL Republicans are complicit at a minimum and should be nowhere near the levers of power.
@seanpatrick1243
Ай бұрын
@@michaelmeroyers5487 My comment was removed for calling republicans complicit and mentioning that I’m not a dem, so my vote will be anti-red.
@michaelmeroyers5487
Ай бұрын
@@seanpatrick1243 well it’s good that you’re voting anti red and thanks for your reply and have a great day today and stay cool 🆒👋😁😈👊👊👊😈😇😇😇😁🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🦋🦋
@seanpatrick1243
Ай бұрын
@@michaelmeroyers5487 I'm not a Dem, but I'm energized by the Harris campaign. Biden pulling out was like a weight lifted from my shoulders.
@Doug_Piranha
4 ай бұрын
Well ... Asked on Quora: *"Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"* An articulate and witty writer from England, *Nate White,* wrote the following faultless response, *sentiments shared by people around the world in general* … “A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace; all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing. Not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility. For us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is. His idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults, he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff, the Queensberry rules of basic decency, and he breaks them all. He punches downwards, which a gentleman should, would, could never do, and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless, and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority, perhaps a third, of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: - Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. - You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws, he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumps of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God, what have I created?’ If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”
@stanbyme7874
4 ай бұрын
Perfection. Thank you from the "other" side of USA. As Mr T said "I pity the fools"💙
@michelleisaacson6069
4 ай бұрын
This is beautiful!!!!! Id like to copy/paste to some magas I know! It is everything about trump worded superb!! You are correct as well, soooo obvious!!!
@albertmiller3082
4 ай бұрын
Bravo! *Stadium Cheer!*
@wokeperson5873
4 ай бұрын
Very well stated!
@56astara
4 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@charlenebiggs1620
4 ай бұрын
Thank-you to both Elizabeth Neumann and Tim Miller for presenting sane, rational commentary on the current political situation in the USA.
@lindacurrie6998
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sticking to your real Christian values Elizabeth this was a very good podcast!
@dancingpretty7011
2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Ms. Neumann. The Lord bless you for speaking the truth❤
@Digits-nf9fo
4 ай бұрын
Since Eisenhower's embrace, we have seen the encroachment of politics in religious lectures and consequential actions. All without the removal of non-profit status. Now THAT is unforgivable.
@marceechristensen2533
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Elizabeth. I'm crying through this whole interview. I have lost faith in Christians and their beliefs. I am afraid to join a Church for fear of what they believe and teach. I have lost relationships with family members who follow Trump. I am crying because you are speaking truth to what I believe. My rejoice is in you speaking truth to my Jesus. My Jesus lives strongly in my ❤ and my soul. I keep asking God to let me go home. What is my purpose for still being here. I just want to go HOME 🙏
@phillylifer
4 ай бұрын
I've always laughed at the "guard rails held" rhetoric. If they had held, there would not have been a confederate flag in the capitol building. Tim is right, the rank and file were grown ups and stood in the path of destruction. The first and second level people, the ones in charge, abandoned their duties, and they got away with it.
@lisadeak5723
4 ай бұрын
We can always assume there is much more that we don’t know. Let’s all hope we don’t have to experience T without any guardrails!
@cphcph12
4 ай бұрын
The guard rails were weak and broken at some places, metaphorically speaking,. But if they hadn't held at all, that confederate flag wouldn't have been in the building. It would have been *on* the building.
@michaelmeroyers5487
2 ай бұрын
@@phillylifer not all of them got away Scott free. waiting patiently for that
@michaelmeroyers5487
2 ай бұрын
@@cphcph12 good point and well said, 😊 thanks
@phillylifer
4 ай бұрын
It does the heart good to hear a person of such character who values the democracy and is deeply thoughtful about their faith
@Terry-lh8cn
4 ай бұрын
I couldn't be less interested in Christianity. I quit going to church at 12, not able to take the hypocrisy. I just turned 67. That said, I do admire people who walk their talk and adhere to their faith. Good job, Elizabeth.
@RachelCason-k3d
4 ай бұрын
I am Christian, but from the perspective that people should practice kindness, patience, honor, etc., not in the dogmatic sense. Like you, the hypocrisy has rankled me. If hard core Christians think it is essential they spread Christ’s message, they should start with not offending people by their hypocrisy, it would be a lot easier for people to respect the message.
@hectorbelarmino6457
4 ай бұрын
I believe there are enough genuine Christians out there. You probably haven't met them yet. The first step is to ask God for guidance.
@RachelCason-k3d
4 ай бұрын
@@hectorbelarmino6457 I have met many genuine Christian’s, which is why it is so frustrating to have the Christian message turned into one of hate by so many. I find it sacrilegious and sometimes it is really hard to be around people who twist a story of sacrifice, humility, love and acceptance into self-congratulating superiority. But, I agree there are many good people out there. The intensity and volume of the hate is just a lot, A LOT. It obscures the Christian message for many, many people and turns them off.
@EatHoneyBeeHappy
4 ай бұрын
@@hectorbelarmino6457 What is step two?
@nobodyknows3180
4 ай бұрын
Yes, as an American, I support and defend the U.S. Constitution, which allows people to worship their God in their way. As to myself, I don't abide by the hypocrisy either.
@paulhaynes8045
4 ай бұрын
As a Brit, a Liberal and an antitheist, I am currently watching what's going on in the States with a mixture of disbelief and deep alarm. But this was a brief ray of sunshine breaking through the gathering storm clouds - there may be hope after all. Thank you.
@Ashley-lm4nv
3 ай бұрын
She voted for trump. trump wanted a favor in exchange for weapons for Ukraine, blue and yellow flag. You remember? She wanted to save unwanted children, now thousands of ukrainian children are dead. Worth it?
@GoogleLover-r9e
4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Elizabeth and thank you, Tim! We appreciate your service!!
@peterhood7813
4 ай бұрын
Sorry, but who is humiliating Christians and who is persecuting Christians? Seems to me the humiliation us self- inflicted and the persecution is imaginary.
@NeilDonald-y5h
4 ай бұрын
As a Christian I agree with you. Western Christians have no idea what real persecution looks like.
@Gretabpooh
4 ай бұрын
In this country it is imaginary. That isn't true in other parts of the world. These evangelicals admire Russia so much, but unless they pledge their allegiance to Putin, they would be banned and their worship together worthy of imprisonment. But they see themselves as leopards, not ones who get their faces eaten by the leopards they support.
@catbb1000
4 ай бұрын
I say the same. I live in the Bible belt and see none of this happening. The Christian Right has been using this line of bullshite for decades starting with Jerry Farewell.
@Executioner9000
4 ай бұрын
As a Catholic I feel that this is right on the money
@RachelCason-k3d
4 ай бұрын
It is about perspective. Although it doesn’t make a lot of sense, people are threatened by what’s different and what they don’t understand. They fear it will take away the foundation of how they see things and are terrified of the potential loss of direction, world understanding, and purpose that drives their lives. (I’m surrounded by MAGA, so I see the fear and freaking out that drives the attacking.) NOT excusing it. I’m freaking exhausted by it, but I see it.
@elisabethbowman4112
Ай бұрын
Really appreciate hearing such clear and balanced discussions
@amandaemerson753
4 ай бұрын
Ms. Neumann, thank you for your true Christian understanding and for leading people in the direction in which people of faith should go. You are a beacon of hope for many.
@jonathandnicholson
4 ай бұрын
'Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life” (John 8:12). I hope you are not trying to turn Elizabeth Neuman into an idol for people to follow.
@amandaemerson753
4 ай бұрын
@@jonathandnicholson God tells us not to worship idols.
@jonathandnicholson
4 ай бұрын
@@amandaemerson753 Correct, so do not proclaim Elizabeth Neumann as a 'beacon' when 'Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life” (John 8:12). Also, 'Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me"' (John 14:6). Jesus was not referring to Neumann. I think Neumann also mischaracterises Christianity because the passage about turning the other cheek (I believe) is about God not sorting out every problem. I do not know how people have come to understand Jesus Christ as a pacifist especially as Jesus intensified rather than abolished the moral order.
@amandaemerson753
4 ай бұрын
@@jonathandnicholson I said exactly what I meant. The words, hope and light are not interchangeable in the statement I made. I will not respond to you again. I will pray for you.
@jonathandnicholson
4 ай бұрын
@@amandaemerson753 Well, maybe I misinterpreted the word 'many,' but in religious terms peace means to be reconciled with God.
@secretariatgirl4249
4 ай бұрын
I don't want to one more thing about "faith." Esp. since I finally had to end my contact with my brother who married a "Christian" and proceeded to become a liar and fake and cut us out of the family. We moved away but I kept the peace...but after he went beserk on me recently...he finally revealed that he's in the cult ...I finally hung up after 44 years of gaslighting.
@gabrielavidal7785
3 ай бұрын
He doesn’t deserve you
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
i dumped my sister years ago and i’ve never regretted it. every time i was down she’d kick me lower…
@OrganNLou
4 ай бұрын
Elizabeth is a TRUE patriot!
@gaylhowell6545
4 ай бұрын
Excellent interview. Thank you Tim and Elizabeth. I’m in awe of Elizabeth’s bravery.
@hopesnopes
Ай бұрын
"He was elected by the people." No, in fact he was put in office by the Electoral College, but NOT by the majority of the electorate. This is an important point.
@jvz773
Ай бұрын
SUCH an important conversation. Thank you for having and sharing it 🙏
@gsbrockway349
4 ай бұрын
If you have to beat someone into agreeing with you, you are probably wrong
@JPatrickT12
4 ай бұрын
Isn’t it a bit of a self-own when these people admit they only clued in to how sick and twisted MAGA world is in 2020? The subtext to this whole interview is, “I’m kind of a foolish dupe who can’t see where the wind blows.”
@happyclam1266
4 ай бұрын
Your need to treat a sincere self-assessment as a kind of game is highly suspect.
@starpenta
4 ай бұрын
My long reply is basically about ignoring all the warning signs of a growing problem. IDK how she got sucked in, and it's frustrating that it took her so long to get out, but at least she did and is doing something about it. I just wish there were more that could figure their way out. I wouldn't call her a dupe. She WAS duped but at least she figured it out and is doing something about it.
@MrBsbotto
4 ай бұрын
@@starpentavery well said. We need to encourage and welcome every person that fights their way out of this madness. You need to understand just how hard it is to turn your back on your "family" of political crazies and return to normalcy. I can't praise them enough; I'm just in awe at their courage.
@Tracy-mq3tz
4 ай бұрын
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” He said to him:””You must love your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind”. This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this: “You must love your neighbor as yourself “. On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets”. Matthew 22:37-40. Anyone not following the admonition is not a Christian (A follower of Jesus Christ) PERIOD
@garyneilson3075
3 ай бұрын
Yes. And too there's a passage, I believe, that says not only must we love our enemies as well, but also do good to them....
@michaelmeroyers5487
2 ай бұрын
@@Tracy-mq3tz absolutely agree and well said, also the real christians i’ve met teach with love, patience and tolerance for others, not hateful judgments and controlling and punishing
@lindaarendt496
Ай бұрын
It’s not about honoring America as great, or any nation, but glorifying our great God.
@MermaidDolphinNYC
4 ай бұрын
I am agnostic but I grew up going to Grace Church in Brooklyn Heights, NY. My late father was a Quaker and my mom an Episcopalian. Our church was all about inclusion and helping the poor. No one and I mean no one was out there trying to convert people. Believe it or not, there were Jews and Muslims who came just because the message was simple. Love thy neighbor and do not judge others. One of our rectors was a gay married man who to oversaw my parents renewing their vows after 50 years. They, I believe that homosexuality is not a sin, that a woman has the right to chose, etc. The rector now is black. He preaches about acceptance and love and inclusion and community, etc.
@marceechristensen2533
4 ай бұрын
Go back to that Church. For God sake it speaks of everything Jesus was sent her to tell what God wanted his people to hear. I think you are one of the chosen who would hear and believe. Once I gave my life to Jesus and accepted him as my Lord the scales fell off my eyes and I saw things so clearly. I could read the Bible and understand it. I felt the Holy Spirit come into my life and direct me as an intercededant to Jesus I am not blowing smoke up your ass. This is my true experience.
@SuperSteeler98
3 ай бұрын
That's the kind of church we all need. People choose to hate
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
my mantras for myself are, judge not lest you be judged and if you show no mercy , none shall be shown you, those 2 keep me humble and on track
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
@@marceechristensen2533i never believed in God, but i found him in a recovery house and he looks just like the God in the bible with the flowing robes and long beard and hair he pats me on the head and says you’ve been bad but you’re doing much better now
@marceechristensen2533
3 ай бұрын
@@michaelmeroyers5487 I don't know what this reply was about. But it doesn't matter , Jesus mean't for you to give it to me. I just finished a 1st time DUI offender 48 hour lockdown. Got there after a year and a half. I have been in outpatient and inpatient treatment 5 times. Why doesn't God heal me ?!?!? I believe even I don't think I am worthy. God is real he sent Jesus to us so we may be free. He gave us a choice to be free..... I want to be free but the demons who know I am vulnerable still haunt me
@hazellove2144
4 ай бұрын
Living in Portland, Oregon during that period was horrifying. The national news reporting was sorely lacking. With Idaho on our border & 15 Oregon counties wanting to secede & join Idaho, the Trumpster threat is still very real today. As a nation we have a lot of work to do. I'm glad you're here. Blessings.
@delta5297
4 ай бұрын
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." - Matthew 7:15-20
@jodie3339
4 ай бұрын
That’s as true as it gets
@marceechristensen2533
4 ай бұрын
Awesome. I am heartened by your comment. My ❤ is bursting with my love for my Jesus 🙏
@victorhoisington5603
4 ай бұрын
Roses come from thorned bushes. Are roses 'bad fruit'? Vaccines save lives. Dors the fact that they are produced from the very thing that would kill make them 'bad fruit'?
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
3 ай бұрын
You Google searched that which is kind of cute in a way
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
3 ай бұрын
@@marceechristensen2533Wow, you get mad when people don't pretend your brand of faith.
@rogerpeck2356
4 ай бұрын
Completely ignoring that this nationalism has many of it roots in its violent opposition to abortion. Christian martyrism at it's best.
@marthamurphy7940
4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Elizabeth Neuman! As a Christian, I am appalled by the Christian Nationalists! Their God is so small. Of course, Jesus didn't have to be crucified, and he didn't need an AR-15 or even an M16. If God created the Universe, He is perfectly capable of saving Jesus w/o a gun. And we don't need guns, either. We need to focus on loving God and our neighbors. Even as a lifelong Democrat I'm a better conservative than trump.
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
i was born on easter sunday and once when i was about 20 i saw a bumper sticker that said, jesus christ is coming back and boy is she pissed and i humbly thought that’s me,lol
@patriciamartine5410
Ай бұрын
Their god is don the con
@kathypalof8819
4 ай бұрын
Elizabeth rocks!
@KitrynPeppers
18 күн бұрын
Elizabeth Neumann is a national security treasure! Thank you for heeding to the need for YOUR help and expertise regarding that call that day! Thank you Elizabeth Neumann for YOUR service. God Bless You and Yours! 💙❤️💙🇺🇸💙❤️💙🇺🇸💙❤️💙🇺🇸💙❤️
@mickkelly6389
4 ай бұрын
I don't follow any religion. This woman sounds inherently good.☺🇬🇧
@happyclam1266
4 ай бұрын
Good and intelligent. That's the thing--I often ask, what makes a person good? It's not religion, it's not political affiliation, it's something else.
@Ashley-lm4nv
3 ай бұрын
Her hands are bloody. Ukraine ask for weapons. Thousands died because trump wanted a fAvOr...
@urkiddingme6254
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate Elizabeth coming forward and her ethics. I still have to ask who was responsible for the lack of security on J6. No one has said "the buck stops here." To say "we didn't foresee" the lack of security is beside the point, It was someone's JOB, not to foresee, but to know all the protocols for ramping up security and to communicate the threats appropriately, but it seems no one really did their job. Y'all were asleep at the wheel.
@jamesbutler1831
4 ай бұрын
trmp wasn't worried about domestic terrorists... they are his voters and donors.
@Gretabpooh
4 ай бұрын
Trump removed the people who could have done that after the election and put his hand picked syncophants into every position that could have made a difference. Those people had the ones who knew what to look for and what to do walking a tightrope in fear for themselves. That's if those people weren't totally pushed out of the administration like Elizabeth was the prior year.
@karinaz8756
4 ай бұрын
I watched it all play out on Parlor. I sounded like the girl with the tinfoil hat. But I KNEW things were going to get violent. Why didn’t they?
@momster6311
Ай бұрын
A lot of people knew something was going to happen, but the one person who knew and ordered it, trump, wanted it to happen. The President at the time is the only person that could give the order for more police or National Guard, no one else would be listened to, they listen only to the President in office, and we all know that was trump.
@judithbradford9130
4 ай бұрын
Trump stepped right into the "Boss" place that evangelicals have been taught all their lives to revere and never, ever question. He uses the Constitution just like they do the Bible, a symbol of Ultimate Authority "written down" they can't read, and rely on the pastor to tell them its meaning.
@nanad4755
4 ай бұрын
He is constantly referring to the Constitution for his defense. This concerns me because I have heard that he wants to re-write the constitution. So it's good enough for him now but needs to be changed when he's in power? 😢
@bradhombre6912
4 ай бұрын
@nanad4755 Trump’s use of the constitution is entirely self-serving. He cherry-picks and misrepresents whatever little piece of the constitution is convenient to his goals at the moment. He disregards whatever parts aren’t, and he has no qualms at all about completely changing his reading of the constitution in the next moment to suit his changing needs.
@johdousha
4 ай бұрын
@nanad4755 Four legs good, two legs better.
@Bigfield47
4 ай бұрын
Trump and team cannot be allowed near classified information again. This is more important than owning the libs and party loyalty.
@andrebredell3293
Ай бұрын
NEVER
@KenJencks
4 ай бұрын
Steve, thank you for doing what you do. 70 year old American here. Please never stop. America needs you more now than ever.
@colmmurphy6749
4 ай бұрын
Who’s Steve?
@karinaz8756
4 ай бұрын
I’m sorry - there was NEVER any question about Trump’s lack of character. His campaign should have ended when he made fun of the disabled reporter. Hillary was right about everything.
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
i know that was despicable to me too
@judithord4065
4 ай бұрын
Fabulous lady. Let's hope she can get through to those worshipping Trump.
@JGLy22086
3 ай бұрын
I love this interview! It’s so refreshing to hear what was happening from someone who was there and saw the threat! Good for her for getting out!
@dennisdrain3868
4 ай бұрын
Is she at all concerned about the pain, suffering, even death inflicted on the women of the country because of the Dobb’s decision that she apparently wanted since that was her main reason for voting for Trump in 2016?
@kaceykelly7222
4 ай бұрын
Why doesnt the Mainstream Media talk about this? The American people need and deserve to know all of this!
@tonycliftonLV69
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Elizabeth
@treztrainor6950
4 ай бұрын
Wonderful guest! Thank you Elizabeth!
@questioner113
28 күн бұрын
How good to listen to a person who delves deep into her faith and uses it to promote peace!
@Kopernicus67
4 ай бұрын
The Evangelicals are the Pharisees of today. Rich, pious, arrogant, and don't want to give up power. They make up things "God said" to manipulate people, not provide people with hope or spiritual comfort. Jesus was killed because he would not save the Jews from the Romans. Simple as that. The Pharisees saw the miracles, heard the humility and self-sacrifice, but didn't care. They wanted "retribution" (sound familiar???) rather than salvation.
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
creepy as hell
@TimDwyer-zz1xk
4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this podcast. Now is a great time to note what an incredible amount of respect I have for Ms. Neumann and the folks on the inside of the past administration for speaking out. I want to suggest a follow up on this subject as it relates to the Obama administration’s failure (or perhaps their conscious choice) to ignore the rise of right wing extremism in the first decade of this century. Was it fear of him being a Black man looking at a rise in White Christian Nationalist extremism as a direct result of the ascendancy of a Black man to the presidency? The rise of White Christian nationalism was identified and chronicled during his presidency but generally ignored. His own intelligence folks testified to the issue repeatedly to congress during this period but it appeared at the time and in retrospect that it was generally ignored. Thanks
@lonpollard902
4 ай бұрын
Tim, you were a great addition to the Bulwark network. I much enjoy your shows. This was a great guest who did far better on the topic than most. I think made a number of errors, such as a blending of morality and legality, rather than keeping them distinct topics. A number of such things. But overall, excellent. Too many make too many errors, so this was refreshing.
@racookster
4 ай бұрын
If you want to know what Jesus thought about the blending of morality and legality, read John 8 - not just the first eleven verses, but the whole chapter. It isn't long. Even someone with a sixth-grade education should be able to get through it quickly.
@lonpollard902
4 ай бұрын
@racookster It isn't relevant. Our form of government was built upon certain philosophic ideas. Freedom is built upon the concept of individual rights. In a free society, things are based upon the protection of individual rights, not the enforcement of anyone's views on morality. Be those views whatever religion or non-religion. To remain a free society, we've got to resist some violating the individual rights of others, for enforcement of their religious views, through force of government. I don't mean that the topic you've mentioned isn't important. It is good to know. My starting point is distinguishing religious discussion from political discussion. Once in agreement that we should remain a free society, and that government should be about protection of individual rights, not enforcement of religious views, then lots of topics are good for discussion, in the proper context. It's definitely worth looking at what Jesus had to say on the topic, for awareness and understanding of that perspective. But theocrats are going to want their religious views to dictate the nation's laws, regardless. And so the starting point has to be the Enlightenment rooted philosophical ideas that led to freedom. Separation of church and state being at the core of it. I think it worthwhile to learn a little about Roger Williams. That wall of separation thing started with him, in the early 1600's. The concept resulted in him having to flee Massachusetts, to remain among the living, and then he founding Rhode Island, with its hedge of separation. Massachusetts then invading Rhode Island in objection to that separation. @racookster It isn't relevant. Our form of government was built upon certain philosophic ideas. Freedom is built upon the concept of individual rights. In a free society, things are based upon the protection of individual rights, not the enforcement of anyone's views on morality. Be those views whatever religion or non-religion. To remain a free society, we've got to resist some violating the individual rights of others, for enforcement of their religious views, through force of government. I don't mean that the topic you've mentioned isn't important. It is good to know. My starting point is distinguishing religious discussion from political discussion. Once in agreement that we should remain a free society, and that government should be about protection of individual rights, not enforcement of religious views, then lots of topics are good for discussion, in the proper context. It's definitely worth looking at what Jesus had to say on the topic, for awareness and understanding of that perspective. But theocrats are going to want their religious views to dictate the nation's laws, regardless. And so the starting point has to be the Enlightenment rooted philosophical ideas that led to freedom. Separation of church and state being at the core of it. I think it worthwhile to learn a little about Roger Williams. That wall of separation thing started with him, in the early 1600's. The concept resulted in him having to flee Massachusetts, to remain among the living, and then he founding Rhode Island, with its hedge of separation. Massachusetts then invading Rhode Island with military force, in objection to that separation. Williams having to get on a ship to England, to petition parliament for their approval for having this separation between church and state, and his writing extensively while in England, and those writings having influence on a young English Philosopher, named John Locke. Whose two treatises on government had enormous influence on the government we eventually formed. Jefferson used the phrase wall of separation because he was writing to Baptists. And Roger Williams has strong connection to the forming of the Baptist religion.
@lonpollard902
4 ай бұрын
@@racookster I do thank you. And I did take note of it. I'll have to look at it when I'm able to. My appreciation may not have come through.
@BarrVason
4 ай бұрын
So when do we acknowledge that religion IS the problem? World wide, Religion is at the head of all problems. Race and religion is all that separates us. Remove one and the other pales in comparison.
@Dwah-j6h
4 ай бұрын
WWII was based on religion. Maybe Europe has it right with a peaceful, civil secular society,
@peteo5704
4 ай бұрын
People blame religion for a lot of The strife in the world. The problems come from religions being easy to hijack by empathy-deficit-disordered authoritarians and you have tragedies like the Spanish Inquisition, and now you have white Christian nationalism. God: Shaking My Head Beau of the fifth column and Jon Stewart believe that the Zoomers, Generation Z and the younger millennials, are going to step up and do the heavy lifting once again. The white wigs worn by the Founders disguise the fact that they were of the same age group. I think that the generation who were raised by evangelicals could be a powerful force within that movement. The younger evangelicals, the ones who were brought up believing what they had been taught about Christ's message, now seeing their adults espousing strange ideas, like Lauren Boebert saying "if Jesus had an AK-47 they never would have been able to crucify him." The Christian faith believes that Jesus came to die for our sins, not selfishly gun down everybody in sight to preserve His own life. What part of "love thy neighbor as thyself," is not clear to these people?
@xjarheadjohnson
4 ай бұрын
That is why the Founding Fathers deemed *ALL* religions unfit for modern, civil governance. The *1st Amendment's Establishment Clause* prohibits the government from making any law, _“respecting an establishment of religion.”_ This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion. *Constitution Article VI Supreme Law - Clause 3 Oaths of Office* _"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; _*_but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."_* This means nobody is ever required to swear to a god or on the Bible, or any other religious book for an oath of office. They may choose a god or religious book, but none is required. Thomas Jefferson and Calvin Coolidge did not use a Bible in their oath-taking ceremonies. Theodore Roosevelt did not use the Bible when taking the oath in 1901, nor did John Quincy Adams, who swore on a book of law, with the intention that he was swearing on the constitution. _"In this enlightened age and in this land of equal liberty, _*_it is our boast,_*_ that a man's religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest offices that are known in the United States."_ *-George Washington* (To the Members of the New Jerusalem Church of Baltimore, 27 January 1793) _“The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or Mohammedan Nation.”_ *- John Adams* (American statesman, attorney, diplomat, writer, Founding Father & 2nd president) _“...the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."_ *-Treaty of Tripoli - June 7, 1797. Signed by President John Adams & Ratified UNANIMOUSLY, by the Senate June 10, 1797* ....only a few times in history the Senate unanimously agreed on anything. A 2018 Supreme Court Ruling re-affirmed this statement, from The Treaty of Tripoli. The Supreme Court released an opinion on May 14, 2018 in Murphy v. National Collegiate Athletic Assn., 584 U. S. (2018), Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion wrote: _"The Treaty of Tripoli was passed by the Senate and signed into law by President John Adams. As such, it is a "legislated text" which must be read "textually". The lower courts in this case read a hypothetical legislative intention into the text by dismissing Article 11 as "a mere formality". The language itself makes a clear direct statement that _*_our government is not based on the Christian religion and any attempt by a government official to represent our government as Christian contradicts the text and the historical understanding of our founders."_* _"Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?"_ *- James Madison 4th president* (A Memorial And Remonstrance, On The Religious Rights Of Man: Written In 1784-85)
@MrDellasc
4 ай бұрын
I just got her book on audible! She’s actually narrating it too!
@sherrillwhately7586
4 ай бұрын
My oldest brother was very anti-Islamist. He molded his identity on a Militant Christian Jijad to take back the Holy Land in the tradition of the Knights Templar and the Crusades. He is Evangelical, his best friend from childhood is Catholic. They were united in this. From there he went to wanting a Militant Christian Theocracy in which only the military deserve healthcare and retirement benefits. Everyone else can fall into debt servitude and even slavery just as during the time of the founders, because he’s an originalist. He also screamed at me that I was “unfit to live!” for being on Social Security and Medicare.
@jenniferstone2975
4 ай бұрын
The Nazis practiced Social Darwinism.
@GigiDavis-u6d
4 ай бұрын
He's a talibangelist
@VariablePotpourri
4 ай бұрын
The outcome of MAGA taking ‘Onward Christian Soldiers’ literally.
@RachelCason-k3d
4 ай бұрын
Talibangelist 😂😂😂
@Dwah-j6h
4 ай бұрын
People prone to be a cult member have a hard time discerning reality from fantasy. When she describes this and is shocked, has no idea how shocked we are that she was so clueless.
@aevanhoutte
4 ай бұрын
Loved hearing from Elizabeth!
@aumdeva963
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I consider myself Christian but am horrified by the whole manga cult and its cult leader. This is exactly what the Bible was talking about when he says wolf in sheep’s clothing.
@MarleneGrunowf
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Ms. Neumann! As a lifelong Christian and 50 plus year registered Republican, I have wondered what happened to the Republican Party. It is very heartbreaking to see what worship of a man can do. I pray eyes will be opened. I am also in real fear for my country.
@Anabee3
4 ай бұрын
As a Christian, I can't help but notice the mass increase in ppl who call themselves Christian, but their "Jesus" is not the Biblical Jesus, but a false, man-made version in which Jesus serves THEM (their hearts, minds, values, agendas, etc) instead of: THEY serve JESUS. I see it on both sides of the aisle, in different ways, for different reasons, but equally BLASPHEMOUS. If you believe in & serve a different Jesus other than the one clearly described in the Holy Bible- You're not a Christian. Elizabeth certainly seems to know& serve JESUS: THE ONE & ONLY TRUE MESSIAH/2ND PERSON OF OUR 3RCE HOLY GOD.
@nothingbutmilk6576
4 ай бұрын
You're thinking of the Jesus described in the gospels. But the Jesus of Revelation is actually pretty violent.
@peacelovejoy8786
4 ай бұрын
@@nothingbutmilk6576 You can't have Jesus both ways.
@nothingbutmilk6576
4 ай бұрын
@@peacelovejoy8786 Exactly. And Christian Nationalists chose the version in Revelation. They'll also declare proudly that they're goats not sheep (while ignoring that particular parable.) For most of them, Christianity is a lifestyle brand rather than a coherent set of beliefs.
@Gretabpooh
4 ай бұрын
@@nothingbutmilk6576They haven't even chosen the version in Revaluations. They have chosen an "American" version that doesn't exist anywhere but their own imaginations.
@Anabee3
4 ай бұрын
@@nothingbutmilk6576CORRECT.
@jackielobin7100
Ай бұрын
Great information. Very Good work Elizabeth and Tim.
@ianmacadam4097
4 ай бұрын
So nice to hear intelligent conversation.
@ronaldpowers1148
Ай бұрын
Tim, thanks for what you do.
@leolawheeler
Ай бұрын
Why is it that a certain,very vocal group of people who shout they are Christian seem to not want the Christ part of that at all.
@Trippy_Space_Bunny
4 ай бұрын
I love how Maga Trump supporters are considered non-Christians by Christians and yet I suffer with cptsd from childhood abuse and neglect, amongst other things, from my parents whose reasoning always lead back to their Christian beliefs, parents who are definitely Trump supporters.
@roxanaheath8098
Ай бұрын
Thank you both for your insight.
@josephsener420
19 күн бұрын
This is a great presentation. We need much more of this!
@rukin4003
4 ай бұрын
My first semester of college (1984) was at a Baptist Bible college in the south. I saw the writing on the wall there and that we were heading toward Christian Facism and Christian Nationalism. I didn't expect Christians turing against Jesus and worshipping and following an evil man.
@courtneybrubaker9738
4 ай бұрын
Even the make disciples ran in fear when Jesus got arrested so it tells how they fled even after hanging with him for 3 years or so. No suprise.
@eleanorbertuch135
Ай бұрын
Excellent information. Bravo for honesty 👏👏👏👏😇
@crismcdonough2804
4 ай бұрын
All republican voters who voted for Trump in 2016 should apologize to the rest of us.
@phil3924
3 ай бұрын
I voted for him in 16, 20 and will again. He literally preserved America for a few more years.
@RichardHansbury
3 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Our Lord warned us of such people, telling us only a few seeds would sprout and grow to maturity. Stony hearts don't produce produce without much tilling and conditioning. Years of learning to forgive, to not judge, to not hold grudges, to be a shining city on a hill. Learning gratitude. Following His footsteps when the excitement wears off.😇 Some sadly use faith to bully and harass their neighbors. 👹
@lorrie2878
4 ай бұрын
That was a great conversation and a reminder what Christianity should be. From your Democrat, agnostic friend in Arizona, where we are fighting for women's freedom!
@michaelmeroyers5487
3 ай бұрын
good luck Arizona!!!😇😁🗳️👋👍🏼😇👏
@lorrie2878
3 ай бұрын
@@michaelmeroyers5487 we need it. Not me, but my daughter and granddaughters and sons' partners. Tammy Duckworth is a war hero with multiple amputations. She needed IVF and got it. They will take that away too!
@alexisfrank3585
Ай бұрын
"Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." That's where we're at right now.
@dizzolve
4 ай бұрын
Shes more willing to blame the policing capacity than the instigators of Jan 6?
@glenjohnson5323
3 ай бұрын
On Jan 6 the MAGA cult stopped pretending to care about 'blue lives'.
@RW-zh7kl
2 ай бұрын
When the church doesn't understand faith anymore, why would you expect any political parties to understand it??
@daxterzn
4 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me something which I, as a South African 10 000 miles away, have never understood. Antifa Does this signify Anti Fascism? I truly don't understand this. In the old days we would have called our Antifas either grandpa who fought in WWII, or more recently for us, the Freedom Fighters who helped bring about the end of apartheid. What am I not getting here? When did grandpa's memory become a scourge?
@katepanthera7265
4 ай бұрын
It's complicated. The right wing here view Antifa as leftist extremists that are violent, and there have been some violent episodes. But they're not a formal organization, and don't seem to have any specific leaders, just loose knit groups. The right wing demonizes them as almost Nazi, which is weird because Nazi's are fascist and the group is called Anti-fascism. The right wing here takes facts and turns them upside down; very much gas-lighting and just outright lying. Since Trump is charged with criminal charges, right wing says Biden is the criminal. When we left wingers call Trump and the right wingers 'anti-democratic', they turn around and call left wingers anti-democratic. That sort of thing. They constantly project what they're doing on us. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article that should help a little.
@mjeffn2
3 ай бұрын
Beware of the politician who tells you how to pray, and the religious leader who tells you how to vote. Who does anybody think they are to say what is and isn’t somebody else’s religion. Really, isn’t that the fundamental problem with religion in the first place? It’s just somebody’s belief which is bound to differ from somebody else’s beliefs? Religion is kind of unreliable in that way.
@Steven-pu8ws
4 ай бұрын
God bless you Elizabeth. Thank you for speaking out and for your patriotism. Keep speaking the truth. It matters now more than ever as we head towards November.
@pattithiel7342
Ай бұрын
I hear these words from Christians . “I’m a Christian “!! My view of is I don’t think God wants folks to Boast they are a Christian. I believe God wants you to ACT like a Christian !🙏✝️✝️. I was being in 1951 and all my life I never heard my parents, aunts and uncles , grandfather or neighbor say those words. Now it is being said. It’s a way of looking down at those who are not and only God will be our judge. I shared this and lost some friends.
@stanbyme7874
4 ай бұрын
Excellent interview.
@JackieAnastasis
Ай бұрын
I'm British, love the Bulwark ❤
@Hecalledme1
4 ай бұрын
Tim, Elizabeth Neumann, I really enjoyed this video, very interesting, thank you for sharing. Elizabeth, I saw you on another show, I was so impressed that I bought your book, it's very informative and full of wisdom, the timing is excellent. I have so many Christian friends that seem to be like in a cult drinking up the red kool-aid day after day. It's so sad, they don't even know they've been lied to and brainwashed because they have been lied to and brainwashed! Everybody, enjoy a great and wonderful day.
@russellhammond371
4 ай бұрын
"People writing religious justifications for violence is concerning to me." Lady, have you read the old testament? God literally tells "his people" (ancient ethnic propaganda) to slaughter the enemies and steal their land "because our god (never mind your gods) gave it to us."
@malleusmaleficarum7840
2 ай бұрын
It's in the New Testament too... KJV Luke 19:27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.
@calico2509
Ай бұрын
Shouldn't the "good" Christian churches call out the bad ones and hold them accountable?
@deerobins9086
4 ай бұрын
As a non-believer I found this programme extremely interesting. It remnded me how I have always felt that religion has not bought people together. There are so many people practising their own version of faith, i believe its impossible to find peace on earth. The very nature of personal belief, and that their belief is better than somebody elses is confusing to me. For me to live life by a book for many seems to me a little strange. We all have belief in something, to believe that most people are basicly kind without having an unseen entity to live a fruitful and meaningful existence is so deep rooted in America I find it is quite frightening. The phrase 'it's s God's will' is puzzling to me. Who is God? There are so many versions of God and belief systems that faith is almost destined to fail. Some religions believe that they are the chosen ones. How intolerant and insular is the philosophy that unless you belong to our gang there is no place for you. That is like an exclusive faith. Its all too confusing for me to believe anything other than this is life now, do your best because this is it. I also find with those whose first statement is 'I am a christian' is like having a club badge. Ive listened to many people who like Trump have never uttered a word about being a Christian, jump on the bandwagon. Marjorie Taylor Green for one. She is using her tarnished badge to justify herself and her right to be cruel without any thought of responsibility in the name of God. To me, much of today's societal problems has caused strife because of individual beliefs and lack of tolerance, i dont have a peg to tell me where I should hang my hat. Just my sense of my own conscience. I have good lifelong Christian friends I love because of the people they are. We do not have the same road to follow but we can still walk arm in arm in love. Please dont troll me for my personal belief in life as it is. I just feel most of the problems in this world always come down religion. I did find the programme very interesting. Thank you from the UK with love. I hope America somehow finds peace, you dont seem to be able to find it with Donald Trump. Good luck to those of you who want to make a bettter country, whatever religion you practice. ❤🖐🥰🤚❤️
@lefranglais1155
4 ай бұрын
Elizabeth Neumann seems to be a fine woman and a patriot; even though I am non-religious I respect her views. Such a shame there are not many more like her on the GOP side.
@toesfingers20
Ай бұрын
Tim, please have Elizabeth back so she can educate people why we all need to stay away from DJT as a president. We all have friends that just don't get it. She may be the one that these Christian friends listen to. One of my friends has her grandkids pushing for Trump and the grandmother is listening. We need Elizabeth out there explaining how bad Trump will be a 2nd time around.
@racookster
4 ай бұрын
What does God need with an AR-15?
@RossJames-i6s
3 ай бұрын
or money.
@deborahpitcher7723
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the show nice the talk about religion with out screening I am a Christian but what I have seen from the right it has been so disturbing and ugly this is not how is suppose to act painfull
@Iabunawass
18 күн бұрын
That was an outstanding interview.
@lindaarendt496
Ай бұрын
It makes me think of what Beth Moore Twitted after January 6 “Christian, when you see a cross and a noose held up together, run from it”.
@craigkeller
4 ай бұрын
Brilliant young woman. I wish she had a larger role in governance.
@emp-ty-g
4 ай бұрын
no! religion out of government, no matter the version.
@JoySongDesigns
Ай бұрын
One thing we absolutely need to do is that when churches get involved in politics or trying to influence politics in anyway, they immediately lose your their tax exempt status!!! ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
@alisonblack1824
4 ай бұрын
Tim and Elizabeth great interview helpful and informative.
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