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@VladimirKharchenko
3 жыл бұрын
First mistake was prolly buying studio paints (for students and studies, where you spent paint without care) instead of artist line. studio paints has less pigment in them, a bit more oil, and generally better to work impasto, not the qualities you would like for painting minis. oh, also, white spirit, thinner for your alcohol based paints and oils would be useless to strip water based acrylic paints/inks
@KrullMaestaren
3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend that you check out "James Wappel" here on KZitem. He got videos where he discuss basics, pros/cons, techniques etc while you get to watch him (mostly real time) paint minis with oils. The videos are long but worth it.
@28mmRPG
3 жыл бұрын
dood... Gamblin 1980 oil paints... whole set 37ml tubes... Gamsol... all at Michaels, use a coupon... dont give up... do base coat in acrylics then accent over with oils (and typed just as you got to that part on the vid) lol
@theminiatureunderground
3 жыл бұрын
Abteilung 502 paints dry much faster than artist oils. They are formulated specifically for models. Less oils in the tube but still have a longer working time than acrylics for blending and filtering. It's an alternative if you're interested in researching them. Also putting your artist oils on cardboard and letting it sit for awhile before using them will help soak the oils out of the paint. Modelers recommend this when using artist oils. You'll be amazed at the amount of oil that will soak into the cardboard.
@snieves4
3 жыл бұрын
@@KrullMaestaren this
@GoobertownHobbies
3 жыл бұрын
Nice tree broski. Those tubes of paint will be in your family for many generations.
@onkelgroen
3 жыл бұрын
Just paint bravely, amirite? ;)
@Krazblackheart
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@incognitoatunknown2702
3 жыл бұрын
"So, I don't know where to start." Marco Frisoni, here on youtube; is where you start. Edit: and there he is, mentioned at the end of your video. Lol
@pixelpeek9963
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Marco is quality. The Grimdark Compendium also shows some great oil techniques.
@crips2668
3 жыл бұрын
Same thoughts for me! I was already typing the comment when he mentioned him. Marco provides such quality tutorials for advanced painters and beginners alike.
@piesandhiking4943
3 жыл бұрын
Marco is good but your oil paint god is James Wappel
@StudsonStudio
3 жыл бұрын
Renoir and Cézanne think they're so cool with their slow-drying oil paints, but I don't see them putting out a video every week
@incognitoatunknown2702
3 жыл бұрын
Death makes you lazy.
@negotiableaffections
3 жыл бұрын
still waiting for their projects to dry I expect!
@Psyke0330
3 жыл бұрын
My wife just asked why I was watching a guy playing with broccoli. I can't unsee it now.
@m_d1905
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. A broccoli ent.
@MonkeyJedi99
3 жыл бұрын
@@m_d1905 He goes by the name Brent.
@reyvynnightveil1706
3 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 from Goobertown
@CapitalNick
3 жыл бұрын
Is your wife single by any chance?
@Psyke0330
3 жыл бұрын
@@CapitalNick Nah, she's married to some ugly dude
@jonathantillian6528
3 жыл бұрын
Today on Black Magic Craft: We make mustard, brown sauce, and pea soup from a tube!
@KensanOni
3 жыл бұрын
This video pretty much shows why I am always amazed by anyone who attempts to use oils to paint their minis. The amount of patience involved is incredible.
@piesandhiking4943
3 жыл бұрын
Properly thinned they dry overnight. My first oil painted minis took about three weeks to dry till I got the consistency correct.
@dv_xl
3 жыл бұрын
You can speed up the drying time with a light box, UV speeds up oils drying time. Markus has a video
@KalebSmart
3 жыл бұрын
In a hundred years, people will still speak in hushed whispers about the oil-painted ent that is still drying
@johnd3185
3 жыл бұрын
You're not that wrong. We know that some of the Renaissance oil paintings are still wet at the very deepest layers. They were painted so thick that the base layers are pretty much never going to dry. #arthistorian
@tjduprey
3 жыл бұрын
Funny because it's true. But the student grade Wintons are a bit faster drying.
@nekrataali
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I came here to point this out. Years. It takes literally years for oil to dry on the lowest layer closest to the surface of whatever you painted on. This is extended on surfaces that don't have any airflow coming in from the back. In other words, an oil painting on wood panel will take longer to dry than oil on canvas (which on its back is exposed to the environment). And even canvas has been known to be wet for 80+ years. I can't imagine how long it takes for a surface like styrene or resin.
@lennartbauer9418
3 жыл бұрын
I misread that for "dying" instead of "drying", still funny :D
@gerni-
3 жыл бұрын
Check James Wappel's channel and his Twitch - the struggle when transitioning to oil colours is normal but once you understand how to layer the paints and to work with thinner it's a whole new world.
@VingloLeClerc
3 жыл бұрын
This is the way to go. Wappel is THE MASTER on oil paints with miniatures.
@matao0661
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. If you're really interested check him out, and he is always willing to help if you have questions about anything. Tons of videos from start to finish on using paints.
@humphreygobo6576
3 жыл бұрын
BMC - I'm just gonna wait for this to dry overnight. Me - *Dies laughing*
@mattheweble5550
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I chuckled at that, lol.
@stinkyham9050
3 жыл бұрын
He checked every 15 minutes. Lol. He's too much.
@georgemartinez1720
3 жыл бұрын
May take longer than that
@georgemartinez1720
3 жыл бұрын
@@stinkyham9050 will.not dry for 3 fays
@schrodingersrevenge
3 жыл бұрын
ive had canvas dry for months hahaah
@bettsdn
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Regarding the smell of grass to the oil paints, the oil medium in many oil paints - linseed oil - is as the name implies extracted from flax seeds and is edible. The pigments on the other hand...
@jayward8943
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't eat lead white. It's made from... lead. And there's a lot made from other heavy metals and other nasty things.
@nekrataali
3 жыл бұрын
Pigment is also why oil is so expensive. Acrylic paint uses little plastic beads to make up the pigment. Oil generally uses raw materials (although there are synthetic pigments, like aquamarine blue). During the Renaissance, artists had to create pigment from titanium, dirt, coal, beetle shells, etc. which is where a lot of names for colors comes from. It's why artists worked almost exclusively on commission from the Church, nobility, or other rich patrons like the Medici banking family in Italy. They literally had to mine colors, such as cobalt, in places like the Congo, then ship it to the Netherlands/Italy/France/Britain. What's really interesting is seeing the way artists would "cheat" in order to get more out of their paints. For instance, using something like Indigo Blue to cover large areas, then highlight with Cobalt Blue to trick the eye into thinking the entire thing was Cobalt.
@Epic_747
3 жыл бұрын
@@jayward8943 is that why my hair fell out! wow I never knew that eating paint was bad for you. the more you know
@Slouworker
Жыл бұрын
@@nekrataali they don't use plastic beads as pigment lmao, unless you're talking about cutting pigments
@Ben-fk9ey
3 жыл бұрын
For anyone looking to watch more oil painting stuff James Wappel does magical things with them and makes it looks effortless!
@Chillestchicken
3 жыл бұрын
When I read the title I was like “oh god, this is gonna go well...”
@brettpetersen1671
3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Marco Frisoni, he changed my painting life
@Ynffy
3 жыл бұрын
Heeeelloooo guuuyys!
@ModerateHipster
3 жыл бұрын
Full bodied oil paints take literally months to fully cure. You can touch the surface after several days, but it's not really set for a very long time. Your solution for starting with acrylics and then oil washing over is perfect. Also, usually acrylic is immune to oil thinners so a clear coat between layers isn't needed. Test that, thought, I'm not sure it holds for all different kinds of thinners.
@TheSixthWorld
3 жыл бұрын
I use oils frequently and I've found the only thing you really need to be mindful of with using them on acrylics is washes and thin paints like contrast paints. Those can come off if they're in a very thin layer or if they haven't dried fully, but other than that you can use them together without a whole lot of trouble.
@kallisto9166
3 жыл бұрын
I think the logic behind clear coating before oil washes is just to protect against physically rubbing the acrylic away when you dab it with your cotton bud or whatever. It certainly doesn't thin acrylic. I think it's mostly a belt and braces approach.
@TheSixthWorld
3 жыл бұрын
@@kallisto9166 yeah that makes sense. I HAVE had mineral spirits rub off my primer until it got down to bare plastic, but i was really scrubbing. I will say however that I do varnish oils before putting acrylics on them. I've had some weird spotting happen before, especially with washes.
@piesandhiking4943
3 жыл бұрын
You can paint entirely with oils, correctly thinned they dry overnight. They're not just for washes, they're incredible in the their own right.
@Virakotxa
3 жыл бұрын
Varnishes are tricky... Supposedly, you protect the acrylic with them, but they often get crackled or gunky when in contact with thinners... I've learned to avoid them, except at the very end of the process. If you stay away from cotton and those damn fibers and use a brush dumped in turpentine instead, you'll have much more control.
@cameronmaas2644
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who took a semester of oil painting. One tip i can give is, dawn dish soap is awesome for cleaning the paint! It’ll even get it out of clothes if you’re fast enough!
@y2ace
3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere the hairs on the back of James Wappel's neck just stood up for no reason.
@Not43Bats
3 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate your “ride the learning curvewith me” videos. Makes me feel less intimidated by new techniques!!
@lhiannan02
3 жыл бұрын
Oils can be great fun and is a challenge worth trying out. So glad to see you branching out and trying new things! I find that a good gloss varnish before adding the wash makes all the difference, and then this again to fix before adding another layer. They also do thinners/ mineral oil they say is odorless, there's still a slight smell but not what you're used to.
@mattheweble5550
3 жыл бұрын
I always find the odorless ones give me the worst headaches, even when I use precautions. I try to stay away from thinners as much as possible.
@triplet7788
3 жыл бұрын
Experimentation, experimentation, experimentation. Trial and Error, this is what I love about the hobby. Again and again trying new things is always fun and challenging at times with results to learn from and appreciate.
@antigrav6004
3 жыл бұрын
I repainted my 40k starter set half a dozen times before getting more models later down the line. Wasted so much on testors paint.
@triplet7788
3 жыл бұрын
@@antigrav6004 That's something I should start doing, just have one dedicated model for testing.
@valecraftworks
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say the reason I enjoy your videos so much is your willingness to explore new things without fear of making mistakes. Gives me the bravery to try new things and just jump in! Very cool project!
@nazteeb
3 жыл бұрын
Just in case no one has said also check out James Wappel. I was just as scared to try oils but they are sooooooo much fun when you understand what you need to do as its a totally different method of painting.
@GusB156
3 жыл бұрын
100% this. James is the man when talking about painting with oils.
@WhiteWulfe
3 жыл бұрын
He's also insanely helpful over on Twitch when he's on!
@philgee486
3 жыл бұрын
He's THE guy
@janesawyermakes
3 жыл бұрын
Windsor & Newton makes a set of really nice "water mixable" oils. They behave like oils, but you can clean up/ thin with soap and water. They're a great choice if you're working in an enclosed space and/or don't want to use solvents.
@nightdew4934
3 жыл бұрын
I've been using those and I'm becoming a bit skeptical of them. Had some great results, but also some problems. One major thing is the fact that when you thin with water instead of alcohol you lose the flow that seems to be one of the things that make oil washes really great. I've also had some weird interactions with other colors, especially inks, but that might be due to not having enough varnish between layers. Actually planning to get some regular oils for next time I'm painting to compare, but haven't done it yet.
@BurntWeeny435
2 жыл бұрын
@@nightdew4934 Have you tried them with spirits instead of water? I know the cool feature of them is the water soluble aspect but I think they work like normal oil paints of you use spirits
@nightdew4934
2 жыл бұрын
@@BurntWeeny435 That's a good idea. I've been on somewhat of a break from miniature painting, but I'll try that once I get back to it. Smaller tubes of oil paint are pretty cheap though, so I'll probably get at least a black or something to compare with.
@aaronbono4688
3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard you talking about drying times I knew disaster was imminent. My wife does oil paintings on canvas and she talks about it taking months to dry. She puts on thicker coats but yeah, it takes a while. A lot of the miniature painters I watch talk about using oils after they put most of the paint on with acrylics, using the oils for things like the washing and for the final touches. But go you for diving right into the deep end.
@Magnuswhitefire
3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video comparison of your home-made wash VS oil wash VS manufactured washes
@mzfluffee5628
3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Marco’s videos! He does such a good job explaining how to use other mediums for miniature painting. I was so excited to hear you give him a shout out! He needs more love! I’m also quite enjoying your new inspirational experiments! Keep up the awesomeness!
@triforcehero6264
3 жыл бұрын
@Black Magic Craft, Thank you so much for being such an inspiration for me. Today, I bought my first mini painting supplies, and I just want you to know that you have really inspired so many people to start this amazing hobby. Thank you for being so cool!
@grady.flanary
3 жыл бұрын
I swapped to using oils exclusively a while back, and it's something that slowly went from 'this is absolute rubbish' to 'this is the best way to paint things'. A large positive is that you can easily find what pigments are in paints, so color mixing is ezpz. Edit: Add Venetian red and a titanium white to your collection, and you'll have basically anything you'd want to mix basic skin tones (and also the entire palette I used for painting up a ton of goblins).
@mattheweble5550
3 жыл бұрын
How different is the techniques from painting traditionally with oils versus painting a mini. From a traditional standpoint, the video was very cringeworthy, lol...though I give him a ton of credit for just jumping into it. I would think for minis, you really have to thin down the oils to a watery consistency to work well with layering and all?
@piesandhiking4943
3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@grady.flanary
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattheweble5550 You don't do layering like you would with acrylics, except if you need to reinforce highlights due to colors getting washed out (and this is only something you'll bother with if you're doing NMM). You do want to thin the oil paint down more than one would for painting on a canvas, but the trick is more to have very little paint on the brush. I'll reference something I did recently, as far as process goes, since I've found James Wappel's approach to be generally good for using oils: Goblin stabba - 0. Prime white, 1. Wash the sucker in a burnt umber/ivory black mix to get the deepest shadows, 2. Wipe off the excess with a sponge so that it only remains in the recesses, 3. Hit the areas with their midtone color (using very little paint on the brush, 4. Hit highlights/areas with color variation with the appropriate tones, blending if necessary (only needed on the cloth areas, where the gradients take up more room), 5. Go back a couple days later to reinforce highlights on the NMM sword and add edge highlights.
@mattheweble5550
3 жыл бұрын
@@grady.flanary Ok...so in a sense...it's painting alla prima with really thinned down paints. Do you use any mediums to quicken the curing process on minis?
@grady.flanary
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattheweble5550 I don't bother with it. I'm thinning them down relatively heavily with spirits to begin with (compared to traditional oil painting), so that's making them dry a touch faster. I also like them being semi-workable for longer, since I put NMM on everything, so I like being able to blend the pure-/off-white highlights in slightly, since they get easily muddied if you put them on when doing the rest of it. (Quick edit: I also like them being workable longer so I can adjust blends if I look at the figure the next day or so and think something needs to be touched up, but I just want to use a dry blending brush instead of reactivating the paint/adding more) Dmitry Feschenko (kzitem.info/news/bejne/zoN8s3qAip6SaY4) advocates using additives like that, as I recall, but he's also using thicker paint and focused far more on display painting, so the importance of having smooth blends you'd get from using mediums is more present.
@thomasgross8289
3 жыл бұрын
Having just started building terrain I do a lot of "experiments " up until my latest project everything I've built has been done with "trash" and construction scraps. Ive learned a lot from you and other KZitem channels and have made leaps and bounds in my abilities. I enjoy the experiments as much as the actual crafting.
@sarkzar
3 жыл бұрын
I paint with oils and acrylics on canvas, and I have some tips that might help! - As a lot of people are stating, oils take forever (weeks) to dry, especially on a nonabsorbent surface. Great for blending, not so great for something you'll be picking up. - You can put oils over acrylic- something that'd speed up your process is doing your base coats in acrylic. The acrylic has to be completely dry, and you CAN'T put acrylic over oils because the acrylic will eventually just crack and flake off. - Liquin is the thinner I use to do washes in oils on canvas. It's got all kinds of health hazards like flammability and skin irritation if you get it on you, but my washes dry within a few hours. I've used linseed oil and solvent free fluid to thin my oils, but liquin is by far my favorite because it dries much more quickly.
@power_SERG
3 жыл бұрын
What if you seal the oils, can you put acrylic on top of them?
@jayward8943
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Just make sure you let it sit long enough to cure before varnishing. On a canvas painting that can take months, but the curing time depends on a tonne of things, but mostly how thick the paint is and most of the time it's pretty thin when used for mini painting. So if you give it a week before you varnish you should be good to go.
@grishakaleesh4207
3 жыл бұрын
YEEEEAH!! I came here to mention liquin! I use so much of it (canvas painting, not minis... YET) and it is a [Crippled] Godsend. 36" diagonal paintings, done in a few days!
@grishakaleesh4207
3 жыл бұрын
@@power_SERG Exactly what Jay said. Because of this you should store the painting somewhere where dust won't accumulate - and fuse itself- on the painting. My college prof talked about how it took MONTHS for one of his to dry completely because he used that really thick, globby style of painting that probably has a name that I can't remember.
@rebelwarlock
3 жыл бұрын
Ninjon also has some videos where he explains oil paints/washes for beginners.
@lanepaintsminis
3 жыл бұрын
I love that you just went for it. Even if it didn't work out quite the way you planned. I'm glad I got to watch with fascination and a little sympathy as you tried this out.
@brokenbristlestudios
3 жыл бұрын
this s why i love the channel, i don't really research much myself just jump into things
@stinkyham9050
3 жыл бұрын
What I usually use oils for is a gung wash. It works best on larger flatter surfaces with panel lines and areas for the wash to collect. Take un-thinned oil and slap it on thick over a surface. Then take a lint free cloth and wipe it off. It will leave panel lines and other areas with a nice dirty look. Don't use too dark of oil over to light a surface because it can give a coffee stain appearance.
@CthulhusDream
3 жыл бұрын
There's a Bob Ross, oil painting, and happy little trees joke in here somewhere....
@DrMcCoy
3 жыл бұрын
Probably also something with "smells like grass" and trees
@joshuabrown1663
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy, try laying down your acrylic paint first as your base coat then thinning out your oils thinner than acrylic and use as a glaze. Allow 2-3 days for a final dry time. Acrylic is used as a quick base in most oil paintings to get a rough design. Oil paints don’t like acrylic on top of it because the oils won’t dry and everything will flake off. Awesome work!
@christophasmus3865
3 жыл бұрын
I smiled heavily. I watched Marcos videos and took a diffrent approach. I painted some models from The Drowned Earth with Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black and White. I put a zenithal prime on and then my satisfaction increased exponetialy :) I put one color in and pushed the others from the shadows or the edge into it. My minis looking like the characters from "No one left to fight" and i love it.
@miniprocrastinator7028
3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap you those tubes will last you forever! Also definitely Check out James Wappel’s videos on oil painting miniatures.
@GerialdsForge
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes rushing headlong into things like that is fruitful and produces unexpected results. Also can be quite fun! Don't bash yourself for not studying oils beforehand - we all do that from time to time... and begin checking the manuals only after breaking our new toys 😉 Your first treant should fully dry in about a month (but the outer layers must cure quicker and allow for finishing touches) and will be rocking the bookshelf along with his friend. Thank you for this unusual episode, personally I'm sure going to dig out my old oil paints and see if I can make washes out of them!
@void-stare
3 жыл бұрын
I'm only halfway through the video so you've probably already figured this out, but I want to pass this along in case it can be of help. (not commenting from my art channel whoops) I paint model horses in oils, and with model horses you have to have a super flat, non-textured end surface or it won't sell as well as it could. I've figured out in my own trial and error, that oils are the opposite of acrylics. Use a drying agent to speed up the drying process (I use cobalt but there are others) and don't overdo it or you could get cracking from the oils drying too quickly. (and use thin layers, they'll dry to a workable layer-over state overnight) White and black stay wet a lot longer than other pigments, so plan for that when using them. Use mineral spirits to clean your brush in-between layers if you don't want brush textures; don't thin your paint Use the paint straight out of the tube and put it on an absorbent palette like cardboard to absorb excess oil. add a drop of drier and mix it in, and then take a very small amount on your brush, and dry-brush onto the model. Oils spread, so you're able to work it in a dry-brush way a LOT more than with acrylics Other than that, play around with different soft brushes (I use acrylic-intended brushes for oil painting) and shapes, and try different stroke techniques to get different effects. Ever since figuring out how to use oils to paint models, I really only use my airbrush for base coats anymore :D Keep up the great content!!
@Cernunnos_83
3 жыл бұрын
I've searched for a channel about black magic and found a good video with a very talented man! 👏👍🌳💚🌱
@JordanLeigh
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t painted with oil paint in like 12 years. I was like 😈 when you talked about letting the first one dry lol
@jamescrawford8538
3 жыл бұрын
That's really cool about the oil washes, my wife and I both said wow seeing it
@draskang
3 жыл бұрын
I remember doing oil painting for university & it took months for the stuff to dry. & apparently there are painting that are 100s of years old that if you scrape the outer layer of paint there is wet paint underneath.
@Markovian_
3 жыл бұрын
Marco is one of my favorite KZitem instructors. Such good content.
@WhiteWulfe
3 жыл бұрын
Vince Venturella and James Wappel are two names I'd recommend for looking into painting miniatures with oil paints. Thanks for sticking through with it, even though the initial go around was nowhere near what you were expecting! ^_^
@origaelphoenix8579
3 жыл бұрын
Windsor & Newton makes a product called Liquin. Mix it with your oil paint and it will dry overnight at the latest.
@xJadeWolfxx
3 жыл бұрын
The oil paints smell organic because the oil is plant based. Most oil paints are mixed in linseed oil! I used to do canvas painting with oil paints, I never thought to use them on my minis. However, seeing the oil wash perform like I wish acrylic washes would I might have to make a stop at my craft store!
@ilBrutto100
3 жыл бұрын
One of the ways to use oils is to try the "Grisaille" method. It's easy and you are pretty much doing it now: base coat black, darker grey, lighter grey and a white drybrush (less and less pressure each time) and then the thin glazes of oils!! Viola.... you are a master painter just like the Dutch Masters
@markfoster7166
2 жыл бұрын
Great video for anyone thinking about starting with oils. It's warts and all !!
@Nosculptor
3 жыл бұрын
I have a mini I painted with oils more than 2 months ago. Still waiting for it, to dry. :D After that project I bought a bottle of accelerator.
@shawnfairbanks9339
8 ай бұрын
Having dabbled in oils for a brief moment and watching videos, this is oddly hilarious watching your learning moment.
@timroberts69
3 жыл бұрын
Try using Abteilung 502 modelling oil paints. They are specially designed for modelling, they don't have as much oil (which is what keeps the paints wet for days). Put some on a piece of cardboard for about an hour and the excess oils drain out of it. Then it dries in way less time (depending on the colour).
@hendrikg6003
3 жыл бұрын
I love these vids where you just try out new things in a process that is not a perfect designed "how to". This is totally my perspective to go through new subjects. Very nice :)
@statesrights01
3 жыл бұрын
Your honesty never ceases to get old.. That my friend is what makes you one of the best online
@williammcclanahan1792
2 жыл бұрын
I just started D&D and I’m about to start painting my first D&D figure. I have so many oil paints I’ll be able to make my figures pop do nicely
@SaintVoid
3 жыл бұрын
4 year degree from expensive art school talking: (explained in mini painting terms) First, paint thinner (turpentine) is used to clean your brush, not as the paint medium (what you thin the paints with). With Acrylic water is your cleaner and your medium. For this, you want to be using a fast drying oil medium like Liquin to get your paint to the consistency you want (aka thin). Then use the turp rinse your brush. The only real harmful chemical to breath in is the terp. Get a small Silicoil Brush cleaning jar. Fill it to the coil (half full-ish) and it will last you for a real long time. After your done for the session wash out your brush with some brush soap. Also, don't mix your oil painting brushes with your acrylic brushes. Once they are used for oil, I wouldn't use them for acrylic again. Turp residue will breakdown the paint.
@SaintVoid
3 жыл бұрын
Liquin will dry in less than 24 hours, BTW.
@banditb86
3 жыл бұрын
Take and old wooden box with a lid, line it with aluminum foil and install a light bulb (60 watt) it helps with drying time in-between coats I use to use oils decades ago and it helped
@RainMakeR_Workshop
3 жыл бұрын
Look into Abteilung 502 oil paint. They’re specifically designed for miniature and have a MUCH faster drying time. I paint the minis with acrylic and only use oils and thinner for the when I want that grimly grimdark look.
@HuntsForge
3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for this level of bravery!
@paulomelo1084
3 жыл бұрын
Way better, I advise you to check James Wappel. He is the best reference for painting with oils. Great video.
@appledornart2535
3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend basing with acrylics before going in with the oils. It allows you to have a solid baseof color that won't be affected by or mix with subsequent layers of oils. Also, if you want to go with traditional painting technique, dark to light is a good method. Dark colors will be more transparent, the lightertints will be more opaque.
@appledornart2535
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I would highly recommend naples yellow as a good tinting color rather than white.
@daves4828
3 жыл бұрын
Love Marco's videos. Fun watching this too
@holdthedoor8130
3 жыл бұрын
Be careful with owning too much oil... Merica likes that stuff alot
@mr.onion2k024
3 жыл бұрын
Did someone say oil...😏
@fearless705
3 жыл бұрын
You know it takes 14 days to dry..lol
@gregcarter9680
3 жыл бұрын
I did my first experimenting with Oil Paints on a 1:8 Scale Ecto-1 model doing a thinned down black that I wiped off on the chrome trim (makes it look more like real metal). Two weeks later it still wasn't completely dry.
@burningphoneix
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and the links. I live in an area that doesn't really have acrylic paints but dozens of places have oil paints so this is great for me
@aristidecolbrant9302
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that oil paints have a long dry time make them ideal for blending. Try using it on a magic orb where the colors go into each other. It's really fun to paint with. I am happy for u it's a extra tool in your skillfull hands.
@jacobkonkel6793
3 жыл бұрын
I watched hours of painting tutorials before I started painting my 40k army, and no amount of instructional videos could compare to the knowledge I gained from a single brush stroke. Nice to see that rule applies to even pros, such as yourself.
@sirpiken
3 жыл бұрын
The thinner doesn't have the surface tension that water has so it flows super easily into every nook and cranny.
@salvatoreattinello3942
3 жыл бұрын
It's great to watch experienced crafters dive into something new and not have it go according to plan. It makes us novices realize these things happen. The important thing is to try new things and see what happens. Excellent video!
@lyndilou6314
3 жыл бұрын
You're a kinesthetic learner 😄 Thanks for being so real and informative 😀
@oxboy777
3 жыл бұрын
if you're having trouble with paint taking forever to dry (which oil does take forever), you can mix alkyd mediums such as Gamblin Galkyd to help with accelerating the drying process. The drying time goes from weeks to a day
@perrygrosshans8537
3 жыл бұрын
Fun stuff! And oily. As someone who used Testor's paints way back when to paint old Ral Partha lead miniatures in the 80's, I can tell you I don't miss the smell of turpentine in small cramped spaces, lol! :) Fun stuff to do when you're 14 though.
@ScratchBashing
3 жыл бұрын
oh man. I felt it when you tested out painting oil straight on. I have never had a good experience with that. A week of dry time? No thanks! Your second attempt was great and really shows the (accessible) strength of oils: Enhancing underlying acrylic colours.
@jst1man
3 жыл бұрын
Boy do I understand jumping in with both get. I did a mold yesterday of a spaceship and then did a picture with acrylic paint and before that a dice tower.. so guy, do your best!
@Zickzag
3 жыл бұрын
Nice dude! you could make a drying box if you wanted to go all in with oils, but using the acrylic base as you did is probably the way to go. Glad you enjoyed using them as much as i did my first time, gotta say the flexibility and the amount of control they provide are amazing.
@sixfoothalfling253
3 жыл бұрын
Crafters brain: Get the larger one, its cheaper and you'll use it for other crafts Crafter: Naw, I should just get enough to test the product out first Crafters brain: Ummmm did I stutter?
@davinci3259
3 жыл бұрын
When anything remotely useful is on sale. Better buy it while it is cheaper to save money. One year later find it in the bottom of your storage box.
@SPD3DPrinting
3 жыл бұрын
You are braver man than I Gunga Din! Nice job, thanks for experimenting and demonstrating how to bravely step up and give-it-a-go. Have a great day!
@super311fan
3 жыл бұрын
I use a food dehydrator to heat my oil painted models overnight and they dry/cure within about 8-10 hours. I use those same line of paints.
@DampeS8N
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea to check the materials safety sheets for oil paint colors even if you're familiar with them for water/acrylic paints because some bad stuff is oil soluble and can be super bad if you accidentally breathe or eat it.
@BlackMagicCraftOfficial
3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I’m not a paint eater/brush licker so I don’t have to fight that urge while working with oils.
@tjduprey
3 жыл бұрын
Those are very good student grade paints. They will last decades. I have some from the 80s that I still use along with my professional grade oil paints.
@schubert06sebastian39
Жыл бұрын
Prep your oil paints on a cardboard pallet made from the packaging boxes ahead of time. Let the cardboard soak up the linseed oil for a hours. This cuts the drying time to a day. You have a lot of working time to correct, blend or feather any transition before it dries the next day.
@BlackBeltBots
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the oil painting party BMC! I discovered this a few months ago and I’m thrilled with it. Glad to see you passing this on to your crowd!
@benjaminstorace6699
3 жыл бұрын
MARCO FRISONI. YES!
@kristofbarta2964
3 жыл бұрын
I painted a Blood Bowl team of lizardmen. It puches your eye out, colors are so vibrant. It took ages to dry.
@barryslemmings31
3 жыл бұрын
My very limited experience with oils is that they work best (for modellers) over an acrylic base. Do block colours in acrylic, wait to dry and then work the oils over the top as a highlight and trace, etc. But beware that drying time will be extensive and any reapplication over existing oils with other oils will see the under layer reactivate in seconds. It can take weeks for them to dry. Several large scale tank modellers use acrylics for the vehicle and mud and then oils to create oil and rust streaks, etc, often very very subtle traces which is where the fine pigments in oils are best. My most frequent use is on 15mm scale (1/100th scale) metal figures where I use heavily diluted black or dark brown oils as a pin wash to pick up details in the shadows and the armour of small figures. On white metal figures which come shiny out of the mould, I no longer paint them but just pin wash the armour, paint the belts and clothing in acrylics and then matt varnish the whole thing. But I wait two weeks before I matt varnish in case the oils react with the spray varnish. IT CAN HAPPEN! Keep experimenting but, for best value, buy one of those small 'all colours' sets from art and craft shops and experiment with the full range of colours, huge tubes were probably not the best start! Barry
@DeathByFrenchFry
3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, I just started using oil washes too!
@irrationalgaz
3 жыл бұрын
I have been experimenting with oils for about a year now myself and I reckon with the addition of some White, Cyan Vermilion and Prussian Blue you should be all set to oil wash the world.
@michaelstronghold3550
3 жыл бұрын
You inspired me to start crafting for my DnD group. Got some pillars made, and was up till 2am last night making like 300 bricks for some ruined modular walls. Love the videos man, thanks.
@scottmefford6917
3 жыл бұрын
My medium of choice is Testor oils. They're fairly inexpensive and easy to work with, since they're specifically formulated for plastic models.
@Renikade
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the living Broccoli Man had a happy ending! Fun vid as always. :D
@DesignAlchemist
3 жыл бұрын
I painted a self portrait with a palette knife and oils in 2014, it's still drying.
@joshuapaul359
3 жыл бұрын
They make quick drying medium for oils. Mix that in with some mineral spirits and it'll dry enough over night.
@nicnevin6385
Жыл бұрын
Me as soon as you pulled out the massive tubes: "That is SOOO much paint." 😳 If you don't want to wait several weeks/months for the paint dry, I'd recommend getting some Liquin. It dries within a day or two. Also, Gamsol is great alternative to linseed oil or other mineral spirits.
@itubei9315
3 жыл бұрын
Noice! This reminds me how much fun it was to try oils the first time
@kennyfuller9775
3 жыл бұрын
Mix a little liquin oil painting medium with your oils and they will dry faster. Most quality oil paints have linseed oil in them. Have fun!
@TheShelbyTheShelby
3 жыл бұрын
Me: "Cool new BMC video! It's not even Thursday yet!" 10 seconds later: ...wait.
@Lion4de
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of oils! They are amazing and make blending so nice. There are oil accelerants that you can mix into your paints that take dry times from 24ish hours to 12ish hours.
@cemeeks
3 жыл бұрын
This is giving me the confidence to try this. Had some oil paints sitting around for a while but been nervous to jump in. Also I 3D print with FDM so I’ve been nervous about layer lines showing up more. Marco Frisoni is a genius, love his stuff.
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