Love the details! Sure wish they would simply publish the pricing - even if it is just 'guidline' pricing. In case they read this comment, I generally don't 'call for price' - I move on to the next option instead.
@lmamakos
Жыл бұрын
If you're buying high-end equipment like this, you know that "list price" is mostly useful as an upper bound. But it's fine as a filtering criteria. When there's no price published, my take-away is that it's a shocking number and they don't want to chase their prospects away. Which they do, anyway. Why would you make it hard for someone to give you money? If price is no object, then I'm shopping for a premium brand.
@shazam6274
Жыл бұрын
For you: only 8 lakh or 800,000 Rupees (~ $10k USD) !! Included at no extra charge is an illegible, pastel, low contrast, thin & tiny character GUI, and numerous software enhancements (a.k.a. "bugs") along with this big, heavy box of thick aluminum. When can they expect your money order (in Rupees, of course) ?
@ohjaetzen
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, from what I understand based on their past exhibitions, this particular unit is approximately USD 6.5k.
@shazam6274
Жыл бұрын
Only listing is in India right now ~ $10k@@ohjaetzen
@jgramsey
Жыл бұрын
Price is the most important spec of all - so why would you not show the most important spec?
@PROWEB7
Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I would like to thank you for your work. Secondly, I wish you to continue on this path... And a huge thank you for the time you take to show us the heart of the measuring instruments as well as your essential explanations... Thank you very much, for your comments and your explanations always welcome...
@FriedrichWinkler
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the bare board visual inspection and brief review
@epeglab1o1
Жыл бұрын
Can we see how does the VNA6000 from NanoRFE and how it is compared to the Field Fox and this. Also to maybe check how they get the cost so cheap compared to the rest.
@2ftg
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this would be very interesting to see.
@keithlambell1970
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your extensive review and some very interesting experiments
@neonkev7866
Жыл бұрын
Nice review! Surprised to see those huge resistive couplers off board. I wonder if they can extend the low frequency coverage to single digit KHz like the Keysight P series streamline analyzers. Is the coupler AC coupled internally? I would imagine that the source/reciever hardware can tune lower than 300k. Design looks like bias tees and electronic attenuators (source and/or reciever) could be retrofitted relatively easily as hardware options with bolt-in modules. As long as they have the power and IO on the motherboard.
@ZaphodHarkonnen
Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame they didn’t go for a USB-C PD connector as well. 46W is perfectly doable even with the initial version of USB-PD.
@WolfmanDude
Жыл бұрын
Its a small and fragile connector for "cost sensitive" consumer electronics. The USB-B they used is way more solid, I am a big fan of those
@drkastenbrot
Жыл бұрын
@@WolfmanDudeusb c has higher ratings across the board than usb b. physical size is not a good indicator for robustness.
@paolomonai9511
Жыл бұрын
@@drkastenbrotSorry, but I do not agree. Physical dimensions are almost Always a good indicator of roboustness, as already stated above. You have to immagine multiple connections and disconnections due to portable nature of this equipment and obviously a tiny connector like USB -PC Is more prone to failure than the One chosen by the manufacturer. This Is MHO. Regards.
@drkastenbrot
Жыл бұрын
@@paolomonai9511 cool opinion, but the datasheets with their actual scientific cycle tests do not agree
@thenimbo2
Жыл бұрын
@@paolomonai9511type c is significantly more robust than any previous connector and that's not counting high rel versions. Usb if did their research right. b, Micro and mini are garbage in terms of cycle life
@rolfdieterklein
Жыл бұрын
hope signalhound comes out with a VNA once in a time, would be great -- but nice device... and including TDR ! @sharia For the TDR measuements, would be great to get more in depth informations how this is done mathematically etc.. I have a TDR option for my R&S VNA ZNLE14 for example, which is helpful, but your experiments and explanations would really be super helpful to get an in depth understanding for exampe on the harmonic settings and windows and pulse types.
@Ziferten
Жыл бұрын
Did they just copy Agilent's VNA interface from the XP days, hoping Keysight didn't inherit the rights? Man, that looks exactly like the PNA we have at work.
@aDaWaN
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the same, looks like a complete copy of the Agilent GUI.
@Heffen89
Жыл бұрын
The GUI of the BN100+ looks oddly familiar. I have seen that already on old Agilent VNA. Don't show that to Daniel Bogdanoff.
@RixtronixLAB
Жыл бұрын
Cool video, well done, thanks for sharing it :)
@la2bpa
Жыл бұрын
The Bird software kinda looks like Copper Mountain VNA software’s 🤔
@tomohlsson9045
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. I own the TR1300/1 and while it's an entry level unit, the software interface looks almost exactly like this Bird unit. Perhaps Copper Mountain and Bird entered into a private label agreement.
@Andrew-go1uq
7 ай бұрын
Base GUI Planar/CMT VNA taken from Agilent ENA series.
@krisluedke9557
Жыл бұрын
Ask for price. 😭
@JesusvonNazaret
Жыл бұрын
I hate it when companies don't put their price on the product page
@Daybreakerflint
Жыл бұрын
Lovely device!
@thisoldguy
Жыл бұрын
Cool unit! Love the super-fast sweep rate :D As for triggering, I hate to ask, but are your inputs connected to outputs? If 1:39 is anything to go by, 18:39 suggests that the two white coax cables were reversed. If so, maybe worth a follow-up?
@Thesignalpath
Жыл бұрын
I did check, I even flipped them in case the labels were wrong...
@thisoldguy
Жыл бұрын
@@Thesignalpath Thanks for confirming! Fingers crossed a firmware update does the trick.
@tracyhooker2993
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely laid out piece of equipment. I noticed that the wiring inside the unit is tied down with some metal strips that are screwed down. Does anybody know where to purchase those things?
@cosmolittle1395
Жыл бұрын
The presence of third harmonic at -11dBc is a sure indication of a square wave drive. They are almost certainly using one of the single chip synthesisers such as the ADF4355. In order to get down to 300kHz, they must have external dividers as well. If they use the same chip for the LO, then the LO drive to the mixer would be a square wave as well. What degradation in performance ( if any) would result from this? I think there might be a degradation in the noise floor. Do high end VNAs ever use square wave drive? Cosmo Little
@andymouse
Жыл бұрын
Stacks of interesting stuff to think about ! (as always) But a bit off topic but maybe you can help or maybe one of the viewers, I am mucking around with audio and I saw for sale a 'Spectral Dynamics SD340 Micro FFT Analyzer' and I can't find much info like specs and so on but as far as I understand it this device outputs an FFT of the audio spectrum but I don't even know if this will be as good as my 8 bit scope in FFT mode ? I guess it must but I don't know for sure. My question then is, is it what I think and would it be a step up from my 8 bit Siglent in terms of learning about frequency and all its complexity or is it an ancient boat anchor not even design to test audio signals please ?....cheers.
@hinz1
Жыл бұрын
Well, synthesizer THD is almost as bad as the squarewave from NanoVNA V2, which is like 1/50 the price....
@rusticagenerica
Жыл бұрын
How can waves travel inside those tubes??
@Thesignalpath
Жыл бұрын
They are coax cables. They are just rigid.
@aliemlek
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👌👌
@ralphtyrebyter6391
Жыл бұрын
No manual, seriously?
@Antoniobeta
9 ай бұрын
Anyone knows the price?
@Josh_FSD
Жыл бұрын
Open it up, I want to see the inside!!
@Alex-bi8ob
Жыл бұрын
GUI copied from Keysight ENA, how funny :)
@chickennugget3362
Жыл бұрын
so how much is it?!
@scottvance74
Жыл бұрын
Unclear, but there are advertised prices online coming out of India for about $8500 USD. I imagine that it's between 6-10K USD as of Aug 2023. So just north of an HP8753ES 6 GHz model from 2002 on the used market. Much faster in a lot of ways & more portable for sure.
@SuperDZ555
Жыл бұрын
literally me when my password says Rule 24 Your password must include the URL of a 27 minute 37 second long KZitem video.
@vincei4252
Жыл бұрын
+10 points for type-N. sma is for the Birds. 🤨
@tommihommi1
Жыл бұрын
type N is for connecting sacrificial adapters to useful connectors to :P
@k1zmt
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful RF side design and awful USB B port. It is positioned as mobile device so it would make sense to have it powered via USB C.
@shazam6274
Жыл бұрын
Congrats to the Sanko and Bird marketing teams! This has got to be one of the most underwhelming product introductions I've seen in years! For the price of a new car* they send this box out without fully functional firmware, illegible software and an incomplete website. 🙄 *You can buy a car from India's largest car manufacturer Maruti Suzuki a brand new Fronx, Ignis or Baleno and still have a couple of $ Grand $ left in your pocket
@pa1wbu
Жыл бұрын
Well, it does give the impression of beta test software. Maybe not even beta. Some of the bugs Shariar shows should with 100% certainty have been caught in inhouse testing. Very nice looking hardware, for now questionable soft/firmware. Looking forward to the finished product I'd say
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