You should see if Randy wants to do regular videos with you. I'm sure he has a lot of wisdom to share. Chris
@thebeststooge
8 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would love that myself.
@Itsm0j033
7 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Do what you can so this kind of knowledge is preserved.
@thething4763
8 жыл бұрын
"Leave some so I can fix it" Priceless!
@BuildSomthingCool
8 жыл бұрын
:-)
@thedge7
8 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that Randy could fill hours with what he knows. Some one needs to produce videos of him.
@Robbievigil
8 жыл бұрын
if you like hand turning on a metal lathe check out Click spring on YT also rockler and other wood working sites sell tool rests for wood tools on metal lathes.
@outsidescrewball
8 жыл бұрын
Nice video....you sure found a treasure there in this mentor
@daveknowshow
8 жыл бұрын
I have those same hand tools I use from time to time. my dad was a watch maker and so I have his turning tools. this is my favorite video you have done so far.
@AtelierDBurgoyne
8 жыл бұрын
I also think this is a great video.
@ExtantFrodo2
7 жыл бұрын
Many years ago when I was repairing pocket watches it was not uncommon to need to turn a new balance staff. Those tiny things had upwards of 15 different dimensions that had to be extremely precise. I miss that old lathe.
@ddcd53
8 жыл бұрын
That was very nice of him to demonstrate his technique and teach us how he does it. I have been mentored by a machinist friend of mine for the last 30 years and I appreciate everything he has taught me. I envy you that you are being mentored by him also. Those older guys have so many tricks to show us. They should all be appreciated. Thanks for the nice video and thank you Randy. Dan
@LightningFabrication
8 жыл бұрын
Dale, This is an excellent video. I really enjoyed watching a master at work. Please include Randy in more of your videos. thanks
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
8 жыл бұрын
That was a very great video. I bet very few of us have ever heard of turning metal by hand much less watched it. Keep on keeping on.
@fordguyaj5581
5 жыл бұрын
Dang... that's my problem, I've been hand turning and having problems, I was cutting on the side and need to be cutting on the top
@joentexas
7 жыл бұрын
I was taught by an old timer to use the compound slide cutting into the part as the feed rate moves the carriage at a slow rate. I've rounded off a ball end on a part that way. Does Randy ever use that technique? Good stuff, Thanks.
@ArcticFlies56
4 жыл бұрын
Randy is a “Craftsman” and “Artist!” Both are hard to come by these days. It would be worth spending as much time with him as you can. His craft and art are hard to come by!
@mimlomiani6949
7 жыл бұрын
WOW...:) I hope you go to see him again. One can learn much from people like him. GOOD LUCK :)
@joelong4301
7 жыл бұрын
those old guys are what we need to learn from. If you're a cnc guy like what im in a trade school to learn i urge you to learn at least the basic manual skills before moving on. If you're in western or even middle PA id suggest PMI in Meadville. Ask for marty tot talk to, he's a no bullshit teacher at the school.
@stanwooddave9758
8 жыл бұрын
A big thank you to Randy. I would never believe that you could match a handle with those curve's, via hand turning. A thank you to Dale, for sharing Randy with us out here in KZitem land. Truly learning just how the old timer's did it.
@felixcosty
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, wow way to cool.
@rtkville
8 жыл бұрын
By far one of the best yet! I have often thought there must be a way to turn metal by hand but never found or heard of such a thing so I am so pleased with what I learned from this video!!! I can't wait to go to the shop, I already have a project in mind. thank you so much for all the great videos you produce, they are all very helpful. I also have 2 wood lathes so I know little about turning wood, which should give me a head start. Richard
@BuildSomthingCool
8 жыл бұрын
Im glad you liked it. Good luck and have fun turning
@paulbrowinski8768
7 жыл бұрын
rtkville
@douglasthompson2740
8 жыл бұрын
Wow! There is a gentleman that deserves several more episodes. It is easy to see he has a wealth of knowledge. So we need several more from this machinist and also more from the SECO tool rep on his subject. That ought to keep your camera running for several weeks, Dale! Great resources. Thanks for an interesting video. Looking forward to more. Doug
@DaveBardin
7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! This video touched me. I loved it!
@ronicard
8 жыл бұрын
People like Randy are an absolute treasure. Thanks for a great video, Dale!
@littlestworkshop
8 жыл бұрын
I've done it once or twice on tiny parts in brass, I felt like I was being a rebel as I was making it up as I went along but since seeing it on Clickspring and here I think I should make a few proper tools!
@martinpanev6651
3 жыл бұрын
I am a watchmaker! Most of our lathes do not by default have cross slides or anything like that! Graver turning is what we do! This is really common and I was surprised to see nobody comment on this
@jusb1066
8 жыл бұрын
this is how i make many items, cept my lathe is a drill! lol, but with careful work, youd be suprised how accurate i can make small dowels and pins and dog points
@BrassLock
7 жыл бұрын
+Jusb1066 : You have just identified a niche market for your future videos. Do you have a camera? Way to go!
@flat-earther
5 жыл бұрын
cool how you do it with drill?
@ajsiemers
5 жыл бұрын
Just clamp it in the drill or screw a bolt in it and saw off the head. I'm with Jusb1066
@rodolforodriguez70
2 жыл бұрын
What a Wonderfull Video , we dont expensive colleges degrees we need good Teachers and Mentors ! Kudos!!!
@glennfelpel9785
8 жыл бұрын
I think this could get addictive! Thank you both.
@JimFleming1953
7 жыл бұрын
I'm viewing your episodes from the beginning, Dale. This is the best one yet, sir!!! 👍
@BuildSomthingCool
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim :-)
@OldIronLover
8 жыл бұрын
Definitely cool! He reminds me a bit of my mentor.
@rickl.orchids
8 жыл бұрын
..........great show.....lets see more of Randy!
@MountainProspector
8 жыл бұрын
Great video and timing because a few days ago I wanted to try some hand "graving" with brass on my lathe just to see if I could do it. Ok, all I did was hold a tool with a pair of pliers and rest it on another tool, but in my ignorance of how to grave the result actually turned out quite nicely. My lathe is cnc so doing this sort of thing automatically is clearly going to be faster for production parts, but the short trial the other day and watching this video (and one other) has really got me thinking now about making some "hand finished" stuff. Some might say it's a waste of time if I have a cnc lathe, but I think graving is something to be a little more proud of then just having the machine do it. I'll have to research more on what tools to use when and where to get them. Again, a pleasure to watch people that have such skills.
@TomHaroldArt
7 жыл бұрын
Super video! I'm a complete novice to turning, and this was a really cool project. Sure comes in handy to know things like this that are practical and relatively simple. Now I need to get me some of those tools...!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dale, thank you Randy!! Great video showing just a snapshot of Randy's skills and experience. Love the sound of that old lathe too!
@BuildSomthingCool
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott
@bobshepherd9353
8 жыл бұрын
Now that I am going to have to try. Amazing what they did in the 1800's !!!
@daveknowshow
8 жыл бұрын
watch makers still do it that way.
@toolscrounge
2 жыл бұрын
Just found this and have to say, Randy is a gem! ✨
@artemiasalina1860
8 жыл бұрын
Wow, Randy is great! Seems like a very generous guy with his knowledge. I hope you include him in your videos more often.
@pierresgarage2687
8 жыл бұрын
Great craftsman's video, enjoyed.... Can Randy thread by hand also...? lol (I'll be damned if he does....)
@BuildSomthingCool
8 жыл бұрын
+yes he can. And im not joking .
@pierresgarage2687
8 жыл бұрын
OK THEN.... !!! He doesn't do half pitches... !!! LOL
@TheSageBen
8 жыл бұрын
oh !!!! PLEASE we got to see that!
@skycarl
8 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting. Thanks Dale.
@davidjames1007
7 жыл бұрын
very interesting and amazing old guy, looks like a lifetime of collecting tools in that shop
@TheMachiningman
8 жыл бұрын
Im just south of Toccoa and been machining 25 years and never seen that before. Great video
@adamgalowitz1129
8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I've seen watchmaking videos graving brass but I never imagined the same technique would work in steel. Thanks!
@n9viw
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. Don't know if Randy is still with us, but I hope you had a lot more time with him to learn such fantastic stuff! I can't afford a metal lathe yet, but I have a couple vintage wood lathes I might try this on. Now, if I can just find a 3-jaw chuck to fit a 1933 Craftsman 8x30... LOL
@algerc.5492
8 жыл бұрын
Another great one Dale You're getting better and better(editing,dialog,info). Nice demeanor with your guests. These guest spots are a treasure. I've been turning brass and steel by hand for years, great for one off small parts like your video, carbide works great too on harder metals.
@aspenbanjo
8 жыл бұрын
Love it Dale! Do a series on Randy.Have him demo / lecture on different topics. And of course a detailed shop tour.
@sergio29552
8 жыл бұрын
DALE like always great video nice demonstration there you might keep this gentleman doing more videos I think he have a lot of knowledge to teach us hope and doing it and thank you so much for that little and very good teaching lesson ...
@imysteryman
8 жыл бұрын
Needless to say, that was very impressive to say the least. Thanks for sharing Dale and a Big Thanks to Randy for sharing his talent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@EVguru
8 жыл бұрын
Hello Dale, In the past I've used a template to create that kind of shape. You mount a stylus of some kind on the top-slide to follow the template and wind in the cross-slide till the stylus contacts the template. It's a poor man's hydraulic copying attachment. I've also used the graver technique as well to finish a part roughed out by 'kelllering'. I learned a lot from older books given to me and from articles in 'Model Engineer's Workshop' magazine.
@ypaulbrown
5 ай бұрын
watching again, this is wonderful.....thank you so much, Paul in Florida
@s.spencertenagodus8051
3 жыл бұрын
any ideas please - i have a small lathe with 3 jaw chuck and want to turn down, by hand, brass pediments for columns at 22 mm dia. Advice given is "don't do hand turning with a 3 jaw chuck - its very dangerous" it looks as if i am onto a looser! any suggestions please?
@tilliesinabottle
Жыл бұрын
I just tried that out on my lathe, I made that round tool out of some w1 dril rod, quenched and tempered. Wow that is really effective, even on steel. On brass the metal just flies off almost like it was wood. I haven't tried aluminum but I expect it to be simmilar. I'll rough out the shape with a cut-off tool and round it all with the round hand chisel.
@deemstyle
7 жыл бұрын
This is an old video, but I hope you (or someone) can help. I've read the graver document put out by Sherline and watched all the content I can find on gravers. All of them seem to indicate that the tool is ground in the "typical diamond pattern" but as a brand new hobbyist, it's unclear to me what this means. Can you shed some light on grinding tool bits for gravers?
@cmonster6
8 жыл бұрын
Welcome to South Carolina you're 1-1/2 hrs from me!
@HanstheTraffer
7 жыл бұрын
Not having expensive proper tools, and having to improvise for years, this stuff is kind of old hat to me. My favorite tools now are diamond bit dremels. I do not even have a lathe. a drill press mounted sideways and a dremel with cheap diamond bit tools from China. When you use a dremel there is practically no pressure sideways on the quill of the drill. Obviously you do not quite get the precision that you get with a lathe. Once you try it you might be using it a little more often than you think. The set up is different, you have to think in terms of a wood lathe, measure often but it often does a quick job.
@colincreedtattoomachines
8 жыл бұрын
If you come from a Jeweller or Watchmaker background then "hand turning" is common knowledge. Dale, you might want to check out this video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/k4hm0mp_aqujpaA
@pyro1324
7 жыл бұрын
Yep, I turn brass and 316 stainless on a daily basis in my watchmaking education. It takes a while to get the feel for it but I get greater satisfaction from forming metal by hand than by using a support.
@twagner6155
Жыл бұрын
And remember, it’s always good to have as many things possible in your front pockets of your shirt.
@JackHoying
8 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks for sharing that. Is his Cincinnati Hydrashift working? I have that model and recently restored it. Great machine.
@WildmanTech
8 жыл бұрын
WOW Dale! That was worth the price of admission! If you're ever out Sacramento way, feel free to stop in for a chat and a cool drink.
@pg9112471
7 жыл бұрын
I made a remote control for my lathe which allows travel in two axis simultaneously. the result is movement that approximates work like this. I've been inspired by this ol feller to make something I'd like to share. wish I had more free time thanks for the video.
@JCMakerspace
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Dale, I bet Randy is a walking encyclopedia.
@charlieromeo7663
8 жыл бұрын
Five stars, two thumbs up, and whatever else Dale. Great video, thanks for making it and thanks to Randy for teaching some of us that technique. Now I feel obligated to help you clean Randy's shop! But now I'm headed back out to my shop and give it a try.
@wesleyakachino
8 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see a little more of that shop great vid...
@billl7551
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect!! This is the very part I want to duplicate. I have a compound handle that is badly corroded. Thanks!!
@Shop-Tech
8 жыл бұрын
Dale, I do enjoy your videos, but I just can't get past that wedding ring your wearing. Especially when you have your hand floating on the nose of that spindle during your hand work. Stress safety first. Loose the ring or someday loose the finger. ( I know Randy had a watch On )
@dlstanf2
8 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why more machinist, Turing small parts doesn't use gravers. Good vids on this can be seen on Clickspring.
@mtericktucson
8 жыл бұрын
Good as it gets post here. Keeping it simple, and this is very useful. Thank you very much Dale and Randy.
@stxrynn
8 жыл бұрын
I've seen this on Clickspring, but it seemed a bit out there. I really do appreciate your tutorial. Thanks a ton Dale and Randy. Excellent craftsmanship. Time to clean shop and get turning!!
@standinginnothing
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dale and Randy thanks for posting. I'm new to metal work and looking to buy a lathe, preferably small for machining coins and need some expert advice so I don't buy the wrong one. Would it be ok to email you a picture of what I'm trying to achieve and see if you may be able to shed some light on which machine to purchase?
@joshtonry4291
3 жыл бұрын
I just learned a ton in a matter of minutes. Thankyou so much! My 1953 camper windows need new handles and this is the ticket! Thankyou again!
@natevanbynen6595
8 жыл бұрын
Quick put all of that guys experience and wisdom on the old interweb for all to consume! They just don't make them like they used to, great video thanks for sharing!! I love spending time with old timers, they have acquired so much through the years I am always fascinated by what I can learn from them
@davidschlabach4106
2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! And a question... Is the spindle spinning away from you and Randy? Opposite of how it usually spins using the tool rest?
@gilbertodiazcastro8871
7 жыл бұрын
Great video and I can tell lots of experience to share. I do however know that it is possible to machine on the side with no problem, the trick is to use a solid built tool. I have used my Carbide-Insert wood turning tools on my metal lathe, the round cutter is the best to work with but the triangle shape works very well. My tool shanks are 1/2" - 5/8" square cold-rolled steel. I made them myself. You can find many videos that show how to use the tools on wood, then start on soft metal before you move on to steel. Awesome work to show off. Thanks f I can do it anybody can.
@roleic7246
8 жыл бұрын
Very nice technique replacing CNC work where tolerances are not so important. Clickspring - a beautiful watchmaker channel - also shows some hand turning of drill rod (kzitem.info/news/bejne/k4Siy2dpnpRiiKQ at 1min30sec). He does not hold the tool cutting edge tangentially but to centre height, as we are used to, and it works too. Maybe his tool rest being a bit closer to the work is what allows that.
@duobob
8 жыл бұрын
Randy is a great guy, you have produced an excellent video, and I need to make two matched handles just about exactly like the one you made here. Great techniques, I will be using them. I am just sorry I cannot give you two thumbs up on this one... Thanks!
@jackleg693
8 жыл бұрын
What a superb video! Thank you again for all the superb content.
@tompas11A3n52KkX
8 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a real pro using hand turning technique. I will for sure try this myself in the future.
@CreaseysWorkshop
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dale and Randy for sharing. A really useful video!
@johncrisman576
4 жыл бұрын
Rediscovering Dale’s channel. He is so diverse in his experience and knowledge. Is anyone aware of a video on Dale that describes his past and present? I know he did a shop tour after hitting 100K subs. Have not viewed that yet.
@OldIronShops
8 жыл бұрын
very cool demo i am rebuilding a 110 year old mill now i see how they made the crank handles.
@PENFOLD1962
6 жыл бұрын
Real Craftsmanship... absolutely brilliant 👍 😉 👌
@thurlravenscroft2572
10 ай бұрын
Brought a tear to my eye. This gentleman reminds me of my granddaddy. He’s been gone 20 years now, but I still miss him.
@JeffreyVastine
8 жыл бұрын
Dale, it looks like you have found an excellent mentor in Randy. I am certain that there are a plethora of things that he could contribute to the knowledge base that you are building , many of which that are no longer used and would end up lost or dead if you and others fail to tap the valuable resources that we still have with individuals like him. With the information and automation age, we have already lost far too many of the old ways that are still very effective and have their place.It;s like we're on a speeding train where all of the new discoveries are taken onboard at the engine while the brakeman in the caboose is rapidly offloading the old stuff to make room for the new.Hopefully, we can stop the insanity. I am trying to do my part as are you, but we can only do so much. Anyway, nice video and I look forward to seeing more with Randy. Thanks for sharing this treasure!
@rlsimpso
7 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. I tried to do this in past and had no success. I see now I was cutting the wrong way, with the wrong grind. This is one to definitely added to the watch later list.
@Clete88
7 жыл бұрын
This is a special video......I want everyone to see this one! I've never seen anything like it......I'd love to see more like it......great stuff!
@tarunarya1780
Жыл бұрын
Loved it! He does what we all want to do - create whats in our mind without wasting all that time overcomplicating everything. Video was Gold. Showed lost skills.
@camilewis87
7 жыл бұрын
cool. I use manual tools on my mini lathe to turn designs and curves that aren't easy to do otherwise. you really do have to be careful too. it sucks when you catch the tool on the part.
@dimitar4y
6 жыл бұрын
Goes to show, what you really need the most is a sharp tool... Or the metal will just knock your tool out of your hand, scream in tantrum that it's not sharp enough, or that there's too much play/stickout. Lovely video. Very tactile feel to it.
@erichelms7096
8 жыл бұрын
I turned a couple brass pieces with a drill press (I don't have a lathe) about a month ago. It was slow going but I got the parts I needed. I don't think I could have done it with steel but softer stuff can be turned with few "proper" tools.
@dustinjohnson1952
6 жыл бұрын
I can see that going badly very quickly with wrong speed,feed rate, incorrect angle, or being to heavy handed on the tool pressure. Hats off to a old master.
@RyanWeishalla
8 жыл бұрын
That's a cool process. Thanks to you and Randy for sharing.
@1976ClassicCelica
3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty amazing. I just got a second wood lathe that I figure I can gear down and make a metal lathe out of it. Cool video.
@pauldevey8628
8 жыл бұрын
Very educational. Randy seems like a great fella!!!! His lathe makes a grinding noise. Do the bearings need to be replaced?
@axel5752
2 жыл бұрын
Ojalá los tuviera cerca para aprender de uds. Hermosos tus videos. Saludos desde Argentina.
@skeeterweazel
8 жыл бұрын
Way cool. Hope Randy becomes a regular contributor.
@maircraft4079
8 жыл бұрын
I have made similar knobs and handles but always used files instead of tools for the shaping. I will do this first chance I get. Great stuff.
@rogerstubbings5015
8 жыл бұрын
I can't help but to think the wisdom from these old machinist will soon be lost. It's nothing for us CNC guys to produce that same part but interesting to see it done on a manual. Thanks for sharing
@terrylarotonda784
8 жыл бұрын
Great video. It's to bad that this craftsmanship is being lost in automation. These are skills that are not taught anymore. Stay and learn from this gentleman, it appears he is a treasure chest of knowledge
@kellyklaask7su990
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. You can tell this is not Randy's first rodeo!
@yannkitson116
7 жыл бұрын
Oh I've never seen this done in steel/iron...brass, bronze and aluminium yes. That was interesting I must try it out.
@bobbystanley8580
4 жыл бұрын
Please recommend a lathe mill combo that I want regret for hobby garage use. Thanks!!
@TimFollick
8 жыл бұрын
My mind is officially blown. More Randy videos please, awesome content.
@darrylmay4510
7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I always wondered if that were possible.
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