As a woman it doesn't make me feel inferior to a man that I'm not allowed to be pastor, because the Bible says that they will have stricter judgment
@marthaj67
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! As a female, it's not even that we're not "allowed" to do this. It's that GOD set this up and who are WE (or who is ANYONE, for that matter) to argue with God's created order? _Humans have become so arrogant!_ WE are the CREATURES! *HE is the CREATOR.* It's HIS right to say who does what, and how those things are done. We have NO SAY, and these "creatures" who insist that THEY know better are in for a serious attitude adjustment on that Day. I'd rather develop the right attitude now (or at least TRY to) than to have the Lamb personally tell me how things _really_ are at the Bema. Just my two cents...
@jasminesmith5447
2 жыл бұрын
Right! So I'll gladly sit down and be quiet. I'd rather sit down and not say a word then get up and say something that I shouldn't have or goes against scripture and be judged for it.
@kennethmoore8126
2 жыл бұрын
@@marthaj67 Thank You
@tdamond2
2 жыл бұрын
And raising children, praying, prophecy,and teaching the younger woman is just if not more as valuable.
@wulfosaurus1835
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone here got a couple of grand to throw my way? It'll suck now, but great _will_ your reward be in the hereafter, and my morality will answer then. I mean, it's a scam
@Kelly_Silverman
2 жыл бұрын
I believe I have God to thank that I don't have that desire. Millions of women have the desire to call themselves pastor, bishop and even apostle 🤦🏾♀️ My only desire I have is to sit in the audience and listen. I don't want to lead anyone (unless its a kid or teenager)
@alexanderappiah33
2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree however women should not just sit down and listen but also spread the good news to the world as well, whether you’re a Pastor or not, every follower of Jesus Christ should share the Good news. God bless you!
@Kelly_Silverman
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderappiah33 I didn't say that I don't use other avenues to spread the gospel. I'm simply stating that I don't have the desire to stand up in front of the congregation and lead the church the way some women do... In that regard; I like sitting down and listening to the men that God has appointed. God bless you too.
@caroleimani9754
2 жыл бұрын
When I went to a Catholic Mass in the 1950's I used to watch the Priest at the Altar. Even if they had or have women Priests (which they don't), I had absolutely no desire to get up there and do that. Then I got saved and started going to "Protestant" Churches. I still don't have any desire to get up in front of people and talk about the Bible. I think men have enough problems doing that.......
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
Women shouldn't lead boys over 13
@evang.deborahcoleman3464
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, a true calling to become a Pastor is just that - A CALLING. It should not necessarily come from a desire. I never desired to become an ordained minister, but I obeyed the call from Father God. I still do not desire this office, but I serve willingly and gladly because I DO desire to please God.
@shika1975
2 жыл бұрын
I get so tired of people trying to override God's word so they can be in charge. What's so hard to understand about "sit down and be quiet"?😂
@bpraise517
2 жыл бұрын
Me 2...in these chats it's full of those people
@jasminesmith5447
2 жыл бұрын
Say that again for the people in the back!
@nykka3
2 жыл бұрын
Yep despite showing them scripture. Just laziness and a desire to pretend they are an apostle or God themselves.
@shika1975
2 жыл бұрын
@@nykka3 everyone wants to be the “called”. I’m ok with just being a disciple.
@wulfosaurus1835
2 жыл бұрын
So why are you commenting?
@lastdays7855
2 жыл бұрын
Good teaching! Teaching like this keeps my flesh in check! I remember wanting to be like false prophetess Juanita Bynum until God showed me she’s out of order and needs to sit down. Women should not be pastors and have authority over men. That’s NOT the order or will of God. I have since repented. I teach a small womens BIble study and teach the children but I allow my husband to pastor over the church.
@Laura-ed5kf
2 жыл бұрын
My father & I have been fighting over this for a few years. I think he finally got God’s point when I not only repeated these passages to him, but also pointed out 4K-years of Biblical-history where no woman was sanctioned by God to lead/teach. We went from Eve to Sarah and Rebecca, Deborah, Esther…then Priscilla, Mary, Mary of Magdela… I told him the argument isn’t about him & I, but GOD’S strictures, whether I like it or not.
@vincenth.8793
2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing that your father was arguing for a women to lead and not the opposite. Very interesting... but I assume a very lovely person. GOD BLESS
@JordanEndTimeServantOfYah144
2 жыл бұрын
Amen sis!!!
@Amahle361
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Laura. This is great.
@vivaeuropa
Жыл бұрын
@Vincent H. You'd be surprised how many churches men agree with women pastors. It's not a gender thing like men vs women as many women don't support it and many men do
@matthewalston1226
4 ай бұрын
Strictures?
@IchigosBestFriend
2 жыл бұрын
Man I’m so glad you’re touching on this , I’m out in California, churches flying rainbow flags, woman pastors, and some openly supporting the murder of the unborn
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
Where in CA it's best to find an independent Baptist church
@kathyollis7037
Ай бұрын
It is a sad world we live in, God is our only hope for joy, peace & any kind of happiness
@marymack1
2 жыл бұрын
It's the curse...the striving, desire for control, to rule over...
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, mentioned in Genesis as eves punishment
@youtubewatcher6953
3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@1racethehumanrace946
2 жыл бұрын
This has been an ongoing debate for many years among Christians. I know of one local church in my town that split up into two groups. The members who believed women should should preach went and formed a separate church. Thank you brother Corey for clearing this up. As always you point to scripture to give us Christians the truth.
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to my church...the church on the other side the females are in charge over there.
@caroleimani9754
2 жыл бұрын
@@86lanzo That's the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard.......
@caroleimani9754
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a good thing that they formed another "Church." That would prevent a lot of strife.......
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
1 timothy 2:12
@vivaeuropa
Жыл бұрын
@Carole imani Yes, but imagine a leadership that wasn't ordained by God and how easily the devil can infiltrate it if it's not being supported by Christ. That's why I just lean towards only having men preach because it's the safe thing to do. All the "What if God had a reason to ordain it for some of these women in modern time" just brings so much uncertainty. Especially when their ways of justififying it are examples of women being prophets and evangelizing usually. I won't call out their ministries personally as I don't want to ever get in a busy body state or bear false witness because I don't know it all but just generally speaking it's safe to lean towards what scripture has told us
@DoingtheWorkofGod
2 жыл бұрын
Great teaching brother. To this...the church says, AMEN!!!
@RG-rj4sp
2 жыл бұрын
You will be responsible for what you do and what you say. If you teach you are responsible for so much more than the average Christian. Why are you upset when God gives the responsibility to teach a man to men? You should be happy. This is why people like Corey need your prayer everyday. This is a great responsibility.
@smartchristians
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words brother
@justinharris6486
2 жыл бұрын
You really are a great teacher my brother thank you and my God bless you
@codymartintheprophet
2 жыл бұрын
Ahab men always try to find a way to uplift Jezebel women to a place where God doesn’t want them.
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
Those types of couples need to watch over their children...so they wouldn't get confusion
@mississippimeatloaf1637
2 жыл бұрын
I've heard this discussion several times over the years, this is quicksand, every time a man speaks out against a woman pastor he's labeled as a sexist and is dragged through the mud and it just causes a whole bunch of drama, this isn't worth it man.....
@bpraise517
2 жыл бұрын
It is worth it...We must stand and resist the leaven and Satan's devices.
@mississippimeatloaf1637
2 жыл бұрын
@@bpraise517 Or people could just stop going to churches that are pastored by women, we can speak out against it all we want to, but what good is it going to do if people continue to go to said churches
@bpraise517
2 жыл бұрын
@@mississippimeatloaf1637 Yeah, I always say vote with your feet then things will change.
@SithWithNoName
2 жыл бұрын
@@mississippimeatloaf1637 I hear what you are saying and I agree with you about not going to those women lead churches but we must always keep speaking God's truth and order. We are just the messengers, not the church police.
@theeternalsbeliever1779
2 жыл бұрын
Satan never gets tired of trying to blot out the truth, so Christians shouldn't ever get tired of fighting to keep it alive. The moment a Christian starts to get tired of fighting for the truth is the moment they start traveling down the road of spiritual apathy. That's exactly what happened to the Ephesians.
@geraldwilliamsjr1825
2 жыл бұрын
I thank God for you brother Corey and the other brother in Chirst for sharing this video to you. God knows we need the truth of scripture.
@RichAbundantLife
2 жыл бұрын
Great break down!!! I’m so glad you explained this.
@brunacavalcante4549
Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother i appreciate you talked about how it is ,sound doctrine is needed more than ever!!!
@JesusLovesBest
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining it so clearly.
@nessakay02
2 жыл бұрын
Amen its clear as day. They refuse to submit to the word of God. Women pastors are prideful. I know a women pastor personally and I told her she was in error. She told me "my husband gave me permission 😌 and the men in my denomination ordained me." She feels no need to repent and even said she has a book she's gonna write to explain how women can be pastors 🥴
@smartchristians
2 жыл бұрын
Forget what the word told her, her "husband told her". wow!
@nessakay02
2 жыл бұрын
@@smartchristians It's quite the scene looking at her husband stand behind her or beside her as she leads a congregation. He boldy proclaims she's upholding the mantel that was given to her by God. smh! I also realized that she is very legalistic.
@joan9731
2 жыл бұрын
Real Christians will not read her book for it will be full of lies. Clearly she listens to the voice of her husband before the voice of God. She will find out on her day of judgement how foolish and mistaken she was...unless she steps down from being a pastor and truly sincerely repents. Blessings
@levra5393
2 жыл бұрын
@@smartchristians how about doing one on j bynum.... there is fresh video of her trying to rob the church people..😁
@darrellmcalister5928
2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame when a person try and fight you a scripture to fit what they want to say or mean her husband will get her in trouble 1 Tim2:11-12. Romans 15:4 just agreeing with you no harm intended peace be
@joanlyons6931
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your explanations.
@kyledavis4040
2 жыл бұрын
Amen . Brother Cory this is a good teaching . That other dude sounds crazy and he's not comprehending the scripture
@Ministry_of_Reconciliation
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a healthy topic to discuss more on. I left my church because my Pastor saw nothing wrong with women pastors, he endorsed it.. he pointed out that Priscilla's name was mentioned before Aquilla's 🤦🏿♂️ which made her authoritative... I would love to look at their role more because in acts 18v24-28 *they* both instructed Appollos on the way of God more accurately.. does this mean she was a teacher or did they both just share the Baptism of Christ ? My Pastor would say that she was a teacher, I certainly would not.
@john318john
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus could have easily appointed Mary and Mather who are the sister of Lazarus as one of Apostles. Acts 18 text says they pulled him aside and told him the way of the Lord. Remember Apollos was a Jew preaching John Baptism if I'm correct. The significant phrase in the text was "They pulled him aside and instructed him". Likewise if a man is preaching heresy a woman can pulled him aside and instruct him. It doesn't mean a woman can be a pastor.
@bpraise517
2 жыл бұрын
@@john318john The Rise of Feminism is taking over the church just like it is in society. The church is suppose to effect society not vice versa.
@rjc9537
2 жыл бұрын
Blessings brother Corey! Growing up Spanish Pentecostal, the doctrine of women not allowed to pastor or teach men was never brought up as most of the teachers and leaders in the church were women. The pastor was a man, but women pretty much lead in every other area of ministry. When this came up by others, we simply dismissed it as male chauvinist misinterpretation. The main verse to combat this was: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither MALE nor FEMALE: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28 Another argument was Deborah being a judge, a position of authority, in Israel for 40 years. Another argument against the text from Paul to Timothy was that the place Timothy would pastor was the woman dominated society of Ephesus. In this city the people worshiped a goddess named Diana and the argument goes that Paul did not want women to take positions of authority in this city because he did not want the social feminist teaching to creep into the church. Another argument against Timothy is that since he was raised by women and his father was perhaps not present and not relevant to his faith he would allow for these feminists to take advantage of “young” Timothy. I defended the women position my entire ministry, but when I heard you say the verse it hit me like a ton of bricks: “I DO NOT PERMIT” a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. This is very important in this debate. Paul clearly says that he does not permit. He’s not saying Timothy, I don’t permit you. He’s not saying, in this region I don’t permit women. He clearly says, I do not permit, which means that in every gentile church he raised he did not permit a women to teach or have authority over a man. This is very powerful! As a person who was set free from denominational group thinking I now consider the word of God as the authority for every discussion. Before it was what I was taught and what I saw. But now it’s the scriptures and I must humble myself before the inspired word of God and submit to its teachings. Corey, another argument is that Pricilla taught Apollos along with her husband. Can you speak or respond to this as this is another argument for people to allow women to teach men. Can it be that women can only teach in tandem with their husband? Let me know your thoughts! God bless!
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
Deborsh and Jarl had to lead, because the men were weak at that time
@rjc9537
2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenking47 Most of the men whom God choose to lead in the Bible have always been weak, but God would develop them into great leaders. Deborah wasn’t a last option, she was choosen by God’s design. But him choosing Deborah the prophetess, does not negate the teachings of the Apostle Paul… Check this out from an article I read: In the book of Jonah, we are told that Jonah the prophet was reluctant to obey God and go to the heathen city of Nineveh. He even tried to run away from God (Jonah 1:3). Clearly, Jonah wasn’t chosen because he was ready and willing. Being unavailable, unwilling, or even feeling inadequate and ill-equipped, are not impediments to God’s calling. Moses, Gideon, Saul, and other Bible characters were, like Jonah, initially reluctant to do what God was asking of them. But God developed them to be leaders. Rather than there being a lack of suitably gifted, willing men, it seems the reason God used Deborah was that she was the best person for the task of leading Israel at that time, and so she was raised up to save Israel from its enemies (cf. Judg. 2:18f). “And when the Lord raised up judges for them, the Lord was with the judge and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the Lord was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who oppressed them and harassed them.” Judges 2:18 NKJV
@vivaeuropa
Жыл бұрын
@@rjc9537 They used Galations 3:28 out of context; it was showing that there are no longer only Jews that can be saved, but all people can now be God's children if they're under the covenant of Jesus. Deborah was an example of governmental authority as a judge, but it has nothing to do with spiritual authority over men. Her spiritual role was that of a prophet. The verse after that, when it says that "for Adam was not deceived but Eve," showed that it wasn't just a cultural or situational rule for that time, as Paul went back to the beginning of creation on why men are supposed to lead women. This also refutes the idea that "maybe God didn't want the feminist to negatively influence Timothy" as well. I'm not very familiar with the Priscilla and Apollo story, so I'll stay quiet on that. I hope this helps, bro🙏🏼
@terrybanks3061
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Corey, for All you Christian Ladies who may think this sounds “Disrespectful/ Discriminatory or Demeaning) it’s exactly the Opposite!! All you you have to do is read your Bible and you will notice the (Power/Beauty/Grace and Dignity) of a Godly Woman: 1) Sarah 2) Deborah 3) Ruth 4) Esther 5) Mary 6) Elizabeth) 7) Priscilla 8) Lydia etc … Don’t let the Demonic Feminist Culture deceive you into believing that you have to compete with your husband or men in general. You are Beautiful and Wonderfully made to be an integral part of the Church. Amen
@danadowdell6461
2 жыл бұрын
TRUTH. AMEN.
@johnjohnkempton7770
Жыл бұрын
Well said bro and I like how you didn't come across as having a bad aggressive attitude. Well done.
@springflowerblosomnorris9721
2 жыл бұрын
There are many other roles people can fulfill in God's kingdom. Why everyone is rushing into pastor position? Lord God gives everyone a purpose according to the gift of the spirit given to each person.
@etgrider77
2 жыл бұрын
Man I got to see this. You got Bishop Henry on there.
@defid7793
2 жыл бұрын
If this is true about women preachers, by your analysis can a divorced and remarried man fill the role of pastor?
@TransformWithTrainsalot
2 жыл бұрын
read the scripture again lol
@levra5393
2 жыл бұрын
The scripture says the exact same thing in Titus...HE must be the HUSBAND of one Wife.and HIS Children etc.....I don't see how Anybody can get around all that!
@ChristiansUnitedinChristG.T.G.
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this clear to those who don't know or understand.
@Erv704
2 жыл бұрын
Well said......
@richardcarthorn6408
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your diligence brother Corey,, it's getting tiresome for me,, I'm waiting for the apostle dianah 😁 to be proven (lol)
@Laura-ed5kf
2 жыл бұрын
Regarding women leading: what is your position in me leading a Small Group? To start, it’s not working. I can’t command a room. I wanted to host, then get one of the my friend’s husbands to lead, but not shockingly, they’re not stepping-up, even as I try stepping-down. What’s more: “women keeping quiet in church”…I get that! There are three of us ladies who don’t stop talking long enough for the guys to speak. I feel before their thoughts are formed enough to voice their good-comment, we girls are onto the next topic! So, Biblically & experientially now, I agree w/ God.
@deesharii4893
2 жыл бұрын
I think we need to have a discussion about these familiar spirits people are listening to and discerning the voice of God. Many have just perverted their ability to hear God and put their own stamp of approval on being a lady pastor. The defense is always “god said” “god told me”, okay so now you lying on God because He will never deny Himself. He will not tell you to do something that goes against His written word or nature. Bible says no woman can pastor, you say god said you a lady pastor=You didn’t hear God you heard a god!🤦🏾♀️🙄 This is such a travesty in the body of Christ! This is nothing short of Role confusion, gender confusion, disobedience, and pride!
@catherinefrancis9139
2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that
@keithowensmusic37
2 жыл бұрын
Truth. What software are you using brother?
@Finda1982
2 жыл бұрын
Those this only apply in the church or should it also apply in real life occupation?
@kboone122
2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I was just interested to know what references are you using where you getting that information that you're showing on screen is that a app if so shoot it to me please really enjoy your content man
@stevenjohnson4282
2 жыл бұрын
Corey is not gonna share the title of his computer Bible app
@MrRodro3000
2 жыл бұрын
Amen 😇
@lilsaff21
Жыл бұрын
So, what you’re saying is, there is no office of a “deaconess?”
@tinaandtheworld
2 жыл бұрын
Man does not have superiority over women, but depending on the situation, they can have authority. As well, every man does not have authority over every woman. A pastor has authority over an UNmarried woman if she chooses that as her home church. Her husband has authority over her ( as a covering, not in dominance). But whether you can pull out of the Hebrew and greek or not, which it can be, the examples are there. If God had a problem with women being in a mere Pastor's Role... Why would he put one over an entire nation (Deborah)? So many people get into the debate over the Hebrew and the greek they don't see the forest ( examples) given in scripture for the trees ( the study of specific words to prove a point.) it is all important, but it is supposed to be as a whole. I could put so many more examples of women even in the new testament that were in what would be considered "Pastor" roles of churches. Galatians 3: 26-29 26 So in Christ Jesus, you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Matthew 22: 30, For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. If this were a mandate unmoveable, it would be retained even in the future. Now, don't misquote me; there is absolute order, and it does begin with man. He created man first, then woman but don't misinterpret that God Favors one sex over another and if a woman is called and the body of believers except her, then it is set authority. There will always be a covering, even if that covering is God alone. I don't want it to turn this comment into a book, so I will stop now. The Word of God is taken in the wholeness of scripture.
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
Deborah was NOT a pastor. She was a judge over Israel when Israel in bad times. There was a congregation but the Church had NOT been established yet. So judge and pastor are two separate offices. Gal 3:26-29 is taken out of context. If that verse is to be taken literally, then same sex marriage won't be a sin since there is no gender difference once a person is Saved. A slave is no longer a slave once he's saved. His master must let him go, etc..... Rather, that verse is saying God saves All who believe. Men, woman, child, slave, freeman etc.. it's not taking away our identity as a person. Matthew 22:30 does Not begin to address the issue. It says woman and men won't marry in heaven. Says nothing about woman in leadership roles in heaven. It's specifically and ONLY talking of marital relationship, as far as us being like the angels in this particular verse. Lastly, just because people except the woman pastors does not mean it is from God. There were plenty evil kings of Israel accepted by the people. Acceptance from man means nothing of it isn't rooted in God's acceptance
@tinaandtheworld
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltorah4002 I do not believe you read what I said about Deborah. I merely mentioned that if God had a problem with women teaching or in a position of authority, then why would he put her over a "Whole Nation." In the New Testament (NT)? Actually, the word “pastor” doesn’t occur at all in the NT! The plural form “pastors” is used but, fascinatingly, only one time… ONLY ONE TIME!! And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ. (Eph 4:11-12) The word “pastor” is usually translated throughout the NT as “shepherd” as in - He felt compassion for them because they were like sheep without a shepherd [pastor]; and He began to teach them many things. (Mark 6:34) Or this: The shepherds [pastors] went back, glorifying and praising God for all that they had heard and seen, just as had been told them. (Luke 2:20) “Shepherd” was the key understanding for the word we now use over and over “Pastor”. The complete use in the NT is as follows: shepherd 15 times, [Jesus as] Shepherd 2 times, and pastor 1 time. Inexplicably, in the verse mentioned above (Eph. 4:11), the word “pastors” is used instead of “shepherds”. The context is Paul describing the “gifts” that Christ gave to the body of believers as He ascended on high back to heaven, similar to a conquering hero as he returns to his city from the battlefield! Some years ago, I was led down a similar path that I am suggesting for pastors. I was a missionary for over 20 years on three continents until I realized that the word missionary is not even in the Bible! Of course, there are apostles and prophets that lay and build the foundation of the church (Eph 2:20) but I could find little to no concept of today’s modern missionary in Scriptures. what I would say is that there are many things that are not specific and that it doesn't say "only men can be shepherds or Pastors. Here is my point that the lack of information does not hold hostage the truth of the matter. in other words, because it does not as other scriptures say "only men" can hold this position then why is the restriction except for fear.. we also know that were women even in the beginning after Jesus’s resurrection that spreading the gospel. Paul told Titus that older women should informally train younger women in practical holiness and everyday Christian living (Titus 2:3-4). These older women were equipped and encouraged to teach. But what you seem to be talking about is teaching men? That Paul wrote to Timothy: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. ( Notice that it says that men should not have authority over a man, but this is not talking about actually teaching but a woman (usurping Authority) but if a woman is called of God to teach and God is her covering, “First,” then who is a man to say she cannot do as God has called her to do. I co-pastor a church with my husband. He and God and men in my life have never told me to do anything but to say and do what God has spoken to me to say. ( food for thought: not every man has authority over every woman. The circumstances are important. Jesus said: whatever the Father says, say that. Whatever he tells you to do, do that.
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
@@tinaandtheworld woman did in fact go spread the gospel and woman are called to do things such as that. That's evangelizing and nowhere in scripture are woman exempt from this command. Also woman can teach. Paul urges them to teach younger woman as you mentioned. Yet we learn that woman shouldn't teach or try to lead men.. Peter was a Sheppard but also an elder such as John. 1 Tim 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman Paul gives his reason for a woman not able to lead a church. It goes all the way back to Eve. Because she was deceived and Not Adam. Woman have a vulnerability that men don't seem to have when it comes to this particular area. Lastly, I would like to state that God Can't command a person to do anything that is against his word. If a man desires the office of a bishop, then he must meet the requirements listed in 1 Tim 3. A man who doesn't have a wife and doesn't have control over his house is NOT qualified for this position. We can't make exceptions or pretend God called Him against His own word. It makes the Bible a joke and subjective and places Man as the final authority. A man with multiple wives acn Not be a pastor no matter who confirms him as such. God has already given his answer and no man can change that. They are free to pastor but they need to understand that they are doing so in disobedience.
@tinaandtheworld
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltorah4002 woman did in fact go spread the gospel and woman are called to do things such as that. _“ That's evangelizing, and nowhere in scripture are woman exempt from this command. Also, woman can teach. Paul urges them to teach younger woman as you mentioned. Yet we learn that woman shouldn't teach or try to lead men. "so lead men? what is that in your view, Teaching The salvation or any teaching from the pulpit or only the street?" or are we talking about men not being present during a teaching in the Street or pulpit? would I as a woman say if I were evangelizing refuse to answer a man's question about salvation and go find a male to tell him? either the scripture is being interpreted by experience or tradition or it would be wrong for a woman to even evangelize " to teach or instruct a man. Either it is wrong or it is not and we do not have the whole truth about the subject.
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
@@tinaandtheworld no, we do have the full truth and we have many examples. Priscilla is a good example. She evangelized or instructed Apollos on the note complete gospel since he was preach the gospel of John. Woman can evangelize. The church is different. Woman can sing, pray, prophecy, etc.. but they aren't allowed to teach or lead men. This is completely different from a woman evangelizing. If I go out and evangelize, that doesn't mean I am able or qualified to hold a title in the church.
@georgekennedy1886
2 жыл бұрын
Brother Corey I have to agree with you on this one. Clearly the gentleman in the video is mistaken and this has become a controvery because some have rebelled against the word of God which needs no help in interpretation in this case.
@mzbreannaa
2 жыл бұрын
As a woman if I go to a church who is the Bishop and there is other men that goes to that church. Should I still be attending that church even though I’m a woman? I really need help with this
@smartchristians
2 жыл бұрын
are you asking if the church you attend has a Bishop or pastor as a woman but other men in attendance? Any church with a woman as the head is in violation of scriptures
@brianathen2277
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Corey, what if the church has two men pastors and one woman co pastor? But they let women preach and have women evangelists come preach in the church? It’s a Spanish Pentecostal church. (Assemblies of God) Thank you would appreciate your help. God Bless,
@youtubewatcher6953
3 ай бұрын
Scripture is pretty clear
@elderalphonsoantoinelacey9602
2 жыл бұрын
Did you not read that Deborah judged Israel for 40 years and was a prophet? That was ordained by God! Don't tell me that a woman can't run a church!
@lauren-qb9cf
12 күн бұрын
does that mean God will only pick the most Rightous of women ? which means few ?
@samg9905
2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna upset many, many say the entire bible is God breathe, others say the "Scriptures" are God breathe, both say it must be read/studied in context. Both reference Acts 6 as proof that men are to teach & not woman. Does Acts 6 reference that ? Or what were the men chosen in Acts 6 (in context) to do ? Both reference 1 Corinthians concerning woman as instruction(s) from God, The first few chapters come with authority as of from God, But... Beyond those 1st few chapters of 1st Corinthians Paul makes it a clear point several times if it's he or God commanding, Paul says: "But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment" "I say" Then Paul says, "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord" & Paul wraps up the remaining chapters of 1st Corinthians saying "I" Including "yet I give my judgment" & in one section after giving instructions Paul says "But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God" Paul even uses "I" in Timothy, Am i claiming that the latter portion of 1st Corinthians shouldn't be obeyed or consider ? No, moreso that many should stop claiming God is speaking, when Paul is clear. I believe God allowed it as it's great advice Paul is sharing. Know, i will Not go back & forth with any of you, go STUDY scripture & be content in it,
@BrotherJackSavedbyGod
5 ай бұрын
What's crazy is I was friends with when I was on Facebook but stopped following what he taught bc it started to seem off and strange. He would also make borderline lustful comments about women.
@lisaakins3529
2 жыл бұрын
Q: Hey Corey can a woman teach on a KZitem livestream or Facebook or Zoom or any Social media platform?!🤔
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
No, teaching is teaching no matter where you are. Teaching men in KZitem is no different from teaching men in a church. Both scenarios leave the men incorporating the beliefs they're taught
@lisaakins3529
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltorah4002 I disagree. Like Saiko Woods...if you see that I'm a woman teaching then you need to change the channel. This means that I'm not talking to you. You ( as a male) is NOT my targeted audience.😒
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
@@lisaakins3529 well if you don't plan on teaching men as your target, why will it be a problem??
@lisaakins3529
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltorah4002 you're misunderstanding the "reason" I'm asking!
@gw5781
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see anywhere in scripture that a woman is going to Hell for pastoring!! It's not a heaven or hell issue. I wish we put this much energy into witnessing for Christ.
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
It's disobedience to Gods commands which is the reason upon the discussion
@gw5781
2 жыл бұрын
Is it disobedience to Gods command or Paul's that a woman ought not preach?
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
@@gw5781 Paul couldn't have given one command apart from God. Otherwise, the Bible is Not the infallible word of God. It's tainted with Paul's opinions
@gw5781
2 жыл бұрын
Paul clearly says "I" in 1Tim. 2:12 .. we share two different interpretations but that's fine. Shalom.
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
@@gw5781 1 Tim 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. He says "I" here and we know that command was given by Jesus first. His use of the word I doesn't symbolize being apart from God God bless
@shiammi907
2 жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:34-37....KJV 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but *they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.* 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is *a shame for women to speak in the church.* 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you *are the commandments of the Lord.* So if you're a woman...and....you believe scripture also teaches no woman can be a pastor.....do you also believe 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 that IF YOU DO speak in Church...then do you break *the commandment of the LORD* ........Or are you gonna give the typical cheesy excuse, i.e., oh well now that was just the times they were living in and the women were just shouting out to their husbands, so that's why Paul said that. Not saying that's what you'll say, and sorry if I hurt your feelings....especially if you are insulted that you sound female. But it never ceases to amaze me how some Christians assert some Bible passages and hang it as a yoke upon the necks of others while ignoring the same for themselves. My argument is NOT that women should be pastors. I'm asking a question do you also believe GOD's Word in 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 ???? ETA: apologies for my sounding frustrated. I just want to understand.🙏🏽💖✨Also corrected passage citation.
@shiammi907
2 жыл бұрын
@@miiko9519 I couldn't find reference there either....but 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 seems so very extremely adamant about it. 🌹 (ETA: corrected passage.)
@shiammi907
2 жыл бұрын
@@miiko9519 I know. You're speaking the truth, but that sure doesn't explain 1 Corinthians 14:34-37. Thanks so much.🌷🌷🌷 (ETA: corrected passage.)
@john318john
2 жыл бұрын
@@miiko9519 Debra was a judgement to Israel because the men neglected their responsibility. Mary and Mather were not appointed as apostles as much as they were part of our Lord ministry that's why they were not preaching in the book of Acts.
@shiammi907
2 жыл бұрын
@@john318john So, do you mean to say there is indeed a Biblical precedent that women can be appointed over the mens' position? Does that mean you're against 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 ---or something? Sorry for these awkward questions by me. And my sincerest apology if anyone thinks my original post sounds hateful...I don't want to fight....Just trying to understand. Also, just a side note.... I'm not seeing where @Miiko said or implied or intimated, the two women, Mary and Martha, were Apostles; unless, you were just stating something you felt needed to be said....which is okay🌼thanks.
@john318john
2 жыл бұрын
@@shiammi907 The point to Miiko was that Jesus would have appointed them as Apostles. The scriptures was very clear in 1Timothy 2:12 and Titus 1:6 was the point I made. Going against that it's a disobedience to the scriptures and it's also very plain text that 99% of believers should understand except for false teachers.
@carlisariley5661
2 жыл бұрын
Was Deborah a judge? Yes she was, leading Israel
@mckinzeymckinzey6332
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@kevaughnharrison9761
2 жыл бұрын
That irrelevant thou because we are speaking pertaining to the house of God. If you read the rest of the scripture in 1 Timothy 3 it is states that what was written is teach them how they should.behave and conduct themselves in the house of God which is essentially church.
@carlisariley5661
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevaughnharrison9761 .... Ok but isn't the Gospel being preached more important than what vessel the Lord decides to use?
@kevaughnharrison9761
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlisariley5661 Well I believe following God's Word and trusting his decision are also important. As you said earlier God chose a particular vessel to hold authority in church so be it as I definitely don't know better. Also people don't need a position to preach the gospel or even need to be in church that's why there are evangelists in the bible like Phillip.
@carlisariley5661
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevaughnharrison9761 Ok but who's doing the preaching or teaching? Man or Holy Spirit?
@mckinzeymckinzey6332
2 жыл бұрын
If anyone thinks that God is going to condemn a woman for spreading the Truth or pastoring, they are wrong. God can do whatever he wants and if He calls a woman to preach, that is His business not man's. A lot of people read the scriptures but have no understanding. I don't and never will have a problem with being led by a woman pastor. I wouldn't care if the Truth came from a donkey, the point of it all is where I will spending my eternity. Salvation is available to ALL men, women, and children. Instead of fighting over who God authorized to preach or pastor, how about focusing on saving the lost souls?
@jwilson8049
2 жыл бұрын
As a woman there's nothing wrong with a woman teaching a woman but what you say comes off as hypocritical. Basically and correct me if I'm wrong... " I'm going to follow God even if I'm wrong in how I do it" I don't think that makes much sense, but I am open to the possibility that I may be misunderstanding your statement.
@boardst8086
2 жыл бұрын
@@jwilson8049 but I’m Romans 16, Paul mentions female helpers
@john318john
2 жыл бұрын
@@jwilson8049 So what does Paul meant by female helper? Does he mean pastor or other positions in the church?
@mckinzeymckinzey6332
2 жыл бұрын
@@jwilson8049 You say I'm wrong, not the Word. I'm not being hypocritical in the least. I will take my chances on knowing that my soul is right with God, rather than listen to a bunch of folks wrongly decipher the Word. God has not condemned me in 36 years, so neither can you.
@levra5264
2 жыл бұрын
The bible has already condemn them!! For Adam was first formed then eve but Adam Was not deceived but the woman being decieved was in the transgressions... it's not profiting you anything being under a woman.....we have to operate according to the bible else.......we are in error..
@user-fu2ec1os9s
20 күн бұрын
Corey what do you say about Phoebe being a deacon according to many pastors? They say the Greek confirms this is true in the Romans 16:1. What do you say?
@christianmarshrosey1977
2 жыл бұрын
Brother Corey, was that a doctrine based on the patriarchal nature of apostle Paul's context? He would have said it like that because that was how they thought at the time. But we aren't in patriarchy now. Do we sin for not following a particular doctrine ? I am taught that Jesus died for us and saves us, not a doctrine about Jesus.
@kevaughnharrison9761
2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that the scripture states God and the Word are one and that it surpasses cultural norms and is for the edification of his people. If you look at 1 Tim 3 at the end it states that these passages were written to teach the people how to behave and conduct themselves in the house of God. Which makes it a standard based on those words alone.
@nathanielwilson1899
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve read this scripture but is it the word of God against women preaching or is this Paul the Jew. How do you explain Deborah the Prophet and Judge over Israel. This was a women who ruled over Israel spiritually. God spoke to his people thru her and they had 40 years of peace. God can use whoever he wants not lead us.
@joshuacooperseo
2 жыл бұрын
Throughout the book of Judges, as men rise to leadership, verses identify them as chosen or empowered by God: Judges 3:9-The Lord raised up a deliverer . . . Othniel. Judges 3:15-The Lord raised up a deliverer . . . Ehud. Judges 6:14-The Lord [said to Gideon], “Go in this might of yours, and you shall save Israel . . . Have I not sent you?” Judges 11:29-The Spirit of the Lord came upon Jephthah. Judges 13:24-25-Samson . . . grew and the Lord blessed him. And the Spirit of the Lord began to move upon him. But with Deborah there is no recognition of God’s appointing. Judges 4:4 simply says, “Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, was judging Israel at that time.”
@gregorywilliams8236
2 жыл бұрын
Why is this argument? God will be the judge! Now Paul said “I suffer a woman not to teach or to usurp authority over the man. While we arguing about women preachers the Enemy of this world is running rampant! Souls are being lost! God said I will give you pastors after my own heart! You said called you to be a pastor r preacher then you have to answer to God
@MyRoBeRtBaKeR
4 ай бұрын
Oh wow, God just showed me that. How do we know that God meant the order He formed them in, well besides many Scriptures pointing it out? First off, God doesn't change amen? So when He affirmed that everything was not only good but very good, why on earth, we who believe, would attempt to change what He deemed very good? He said to Peter "what I God has cleansed let no man call unclean."
@janiesloan8458
2 жыл бұрын
Im a woman myself who shares the gospel on tik tok and those women went in on me when I said women aren’t suppose to be pastors!!! GOD IS ABOUT ORDER!!! He didn’t say women weren’t valuable to the kingdom, we are not suppose to lead or teach men!! Since they want to be in charge let’s see how much they take charge if they start persecuting their church! They gone be hiding right behind that man. That leadership going out the window then!!😂😂
@beclear2473
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus ONLY CHOSE MEN. Paul appointed MEN as elders, overseers and pastors. The Greek is helpful to see there are no female gender nouns when it comes to describing the individuals who were placed in these specific positions. There are ONLY MALE GENDER NOUNS. Proverbs 16:25 & Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that SEEMS RIGHT unto a man, but the WAY leads to death. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use the Scripture itself to debunk or refute an opinion or argument. Don't EXPRESS THOUGHTS NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY SCRIPTURE. -------------------------------------------------------------------- JESUS SAID: Matthew 10:13-15 13 If the house is worthy, [a]give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, [b]take back your blessing of peace. 14 WHOEVER DOES NOT RECEIVE YOU, nor HEED YOUR WORDS, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I say to you, IT WLL BE MORE TOLERABLE FOR THE LAND OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT THAN FOR THAT CITY. So. Jesus stated that anyone who did not listen to the teachings of the DISCIPLES (all men) would receive greater punishment/judgment than what happened to the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and its inhabitants. Read Genesis 19:1-29 to see how God incinerated the city and all its inhabitants for their sin. His disciples wrote instructions that are canon. THE BIBLE TEACHES: For the leader of the church to be the HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE. HE must manage HIS own family well HE must see that HIS children obey HIM with respect HE is to take care of God's church HE must have a good reputation (1 Timothy 3:1-16) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An ELDER must be blameless, the HUSBAND of but one wife A MAN whose children believe An OVERSEER entrusted with God's work, HE must be blameless HE must hold firmly to the trustworthy message HE is the one to encourage others in sound doctrine and refute those that oppose (Titus 1:6-9) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man (1 Timothy 2:11-15) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The head of every man is Christ, the head of the wife is her husband, the head of Christ is God (1 Corinthians 11:3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Women love their husbands..working at home, be submissive to their own husbands, THAT THE WORD OF GOD MAY NOT BE REVILED. (Titus 2:3-5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: - - the Bible is clear that leadership of the church is ONLY FOR MEN - - not once in all of scripture do you see a woman appointed as an elder, paster, overseer over a church - - Jesus ONLY CHOSE MEN - - Paul ONLY appointed MEN as leaders - - READ YOUR BIBLE FOR WHAT IT SAYS - - FOR YOURSELF!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is is what the BIBLE says about REJECTING GOD'S WORD: ~ ~ For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and insubordination is as iniquity of idolatry, because you have rejected the word of the Lord... (1 Samuel 15:23) ~ ~ Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these thingswrcath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. (Romans 5:19) ~ ~ A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, for they stumble BECAUSE THEY ARE DISOBEDIENT TO THE WORD, and to this they were appointed. (1 Peter 2:8) ~ ~ And by this we know we have come to know Him, IF we keep His commandments...by this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in Him ought to walk IN THE SAME WAY IN WHICH HE WALKED. (1 John 2:3-6). {Deborah, when you read this one passage, do you honestly see Jesus putting women over congregations? Jesus never gave instructions to do this, and neither did Paul.} ~ ~ 2 Peter 3:14-18 14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and regard the patience of our Lord [as] salvation; just as also our BELOVED BROTHER PAUL, according to the wisdom given him, WROTE TO YOU, 16 as also IN ALL [his] LETTERS, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the UNTAUGHT AND UNSTABLE DISTORT, as [they do] also THE REST OF SCRIPTURES, t-o t-h-ei-r o-w-n d-e-s-t-r-u-c-t-i-o-n. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him [be] the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen. + + what the apostle Peter does in the above passage is he elevates Paul's writings (13 of the 27 books of the New Testament) to all of the other books/writings/authors of scripture. Paul's writings are considered authoritative and binding upon the life of the Believer. + + also Peter states, if you "distort" Paul's words -------- you will do it to YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION! + + what kind of destruction - - the ETERNAL DESTRUCTION OF YOUR SOUL. So it stands to reason, all that Paul said about women being silent in the context of the church and women teaching men in a congregation setting is prohibited.
@janiesloan8458
Жыл бұрын
@@beclear2473 you posted all of this when I said in my post that I agree that women are not suppose to preach, we can teach women and children we aren’t suppose to be in authority over men, you could have saved all of this and just read what I said more carefully love. I’ve made this mistake before, not reading something carefully before responding.❤️
@michaeldillard521
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! The European translators twisted the scriptures.
@lisaakins3529
2 жыл бұрын
Why do I keep missing 😔 out 😭?
@aprilwhite1794
Жыл бұрын
Romans 16 I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. 2 I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me.
@BrotherInChristDK
Жыл бұрын
Not a pastor april
@aprilwhite1794
Жыл бұрын
@@BrotherInChristDK true, she is a deacon.
@BrotherInChristDK
Жыл бұрын
@@aprilwhite1794 Oh yeah ofc but that could mean many things i wont be too dogmatic on the deacon/deaconesss as I'm still doing research and the research I've done so far see a case could be made for "women" deacons But the requirements for a pastor/overseer are clear
@mervyn5074
2 жыл бұрын
It good and correct for us as Christians to know truth, but like everything else we can take it to extremes and leave behind all those whom Christ meant for us to reach who are lost and hurting and don’t have clue to what you guys are talking about. For the sake of the gospel and the commission we have been by our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
A little bit of Greek is very dangerous.. It's sad to see so much ppl using Greek to twist the word of God...to twist the plain meaning of the text...and all evidence and example we have...while at the same time having this high and mighty demeanor like they are the only ones that are let in on the secret. It's like a modern form of gnosticism
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 wrong on pretty much everything you said.. Gnosticism doesn't mean knowledge , Gnosticism was a heretical cult who believe that Jesus was the emissary of a lower God essentially..and that he wasn't a man but only a spirit..The Gnostics only through secret knowledge which only they had ,they could understand Christ.. The Septuagint is the Greek translation of the old testament ..no idea what that has to do with anything .. But you completely miss the Apostle Pauls point....btw Jesus...Paul..are the prophets...the early church..the early church leader all took the Bible literally...which leads you to recognize some of it is allegorical and some of it is very literal Like Hosea 12:10 says "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets".. Which I take literally..... On the issue of the letter kills but the spirit gives like..the Apostle was giving the contrast between the old testament and the new..in that the old testament is based on the letter of the law that was given to Moses on the mount of God..which had no power to save men..but to expose sin..and show the need for a savior.. While the new is based on the blood of Christ and the empowering of the spirit.. No mysticism the Apostle Paul actually says these things quite plainly . One of the great things about Christianity is it's a historical faith..ppl have been doing it a long time now...what you believe can be compared to all of church history.
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 your words on hate and condemnation means very little... You'd have to define what you mean by hate and condemnation... teaching basic biblical doctrine in today's society is considered hate... saying no homosexual will inherit the kingdom is considered hate and condemnation .. The gnostic weren't true believers ..they were a cult that was consistently rebuked and refuted by Jesus's disciples...they undermined the message that Jesus set his disciples to preach.... Btw you're talking to the wrong person about the Catholic Church.....I came to faith reading my Bible by myself in the middle of a suidi Arabian desert.. And you completely missed my point..I literally quoted you a scripture saying there's figures of speech in the Bible...
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 dude..have a conversation..stop creating strawmen.. Nobody said Jesus came against knowledge..that's a strawman... gnosticism is a religious movement..it isn't just the concept of knowledge Nobody is attacking women ..that's a strawman.. Jesus' stood against the religious leaders of the day....but he also said what the religious leaders where teaching was right .....the issue was that they were hypocrites they were teaching one thing and living another thing... Jesus told the ppl to do what they said And yes we are all one in Christ but....but when we're talking beyond salvation...and talking about roles that is a ridiculous oversimplification . We don't all have the same gifts the spirit gives different gifts to different people We don't all have the same roles We don't all have the same ability.. We're not all Apostles We're not all Pastors We're not all teachers... In fact scripture says many of us shouldn't be teachers because we'll undergo greater judgement..so teachers should be a very small percentage. Like the Apostle Paul says there is one body but there are many members that make up that body and each member do different things that picture that is painted in scripture isn't a picture of just everybody get to do everything that's not how it is. And it's not a case of attacking women or defending women I'm not attacking a man if I say that men do not have the role of bearing children.. You need to study more bro.. I see this quite often there's a lot of people out there ,who want to feel like they're special like they have some hidden knowledge everybody else all the Christians out there are blind but they have this whether it is to do with the name of God or some other obscure doctrine. The reality is the Christian faith is not hidden it's not secret it's actually plain because that's the point and some people want to overcomplicate it because they feel a certain way from it the Christian movement was started and pushed by simple fishermen for the most part and that was because the message was simple and was plain for the common Man to hear ...God used the plain..the simple to confound the wise...so that we have to come to the word like a Child.. I know it's hard for alot of ppl to accept.
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 dude you really need to study.. you're making basic errors.. You believe all Christians..are "The" Son..??
@beclear2473
2 жыл бұрын
lanzo86 - what are you talking about here? Jesus ONLY CHOSE MEN. Paul appointed MEN as elders, overseers and pastors. The Greek is helpful to see, there are not female cases of the nouns. All male gender nouns. Use the Scripture itself to debunk or refute an opinion or argument. Don't pontificate and throw about your thoughts without substantiating them with the quotation of scripture. It makes you appear ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------- JESUS SAID: Matthew 10:13-15 13 If the house is worthy, [a]give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, [b]take back your blessing of peace. 14 WHOEVER DOES NOT RECEIVE YOU, nor HEED YOUR WORDS, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I say to you, IT WLL BE MORE TOLERABLE FOR THE LAND OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT THAN FOR THAT CITY. So. Jesus stated that anyone who did not listen to the teachings of the disciples would receive greater punishment/judgment than what happened to the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and its inhabitants. Read Genesis 19:1-29 to see how God incinerated the city and all its inhabitants for their sin. His disciples wrote instructions that are canon. THE BIBLE TEACHES: For the leader of the church to be the HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE. HE must manage HID own family well HE must see that HIS children obey HIM with respect HE is to take care of God's church HE must have a good reputation (1 Timothy 3:1-16) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An ELDER must be blameless, the HUSBAND of but one wife A MAN whose children believe An OVERSEER entrusted with God's work, HE must be blameless HE must hold firmly to the trustworthy message HE is the one to encourage others in sound doctrine and refute those that oppose (Titus 1:6-9) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man (1 Timothy 2:11-15) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The head of every man is Christ, the head of the wife is her husband, the head of Christ is God (1 Corinthians 11:3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Women love their husbands..working at home, be submissive to their own husbands, THAT THE WORD OF GOD MAY NOT BE REVILED. (Titus 2:3-5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: - - the Bible is clear that leadership of the church is ONLY FOR MEN - - not once in all of scripture do you see a woman appointed as an elder, paster, overseer over a church - - Jesus ONLY CHOSE MEN - - Paul ONLY appointed MEN as leaders - - READ YOUR BIBLE FOR WHAT IT SAYS - - FOR YOURSELF!!!
@user-gp4gw5gl2f
4 ай бұрын
What about 1 Corinthians 11:5
@michellenicole678
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with men being the only one to pastor but another question I have are what are the consequences of a woman preaching?
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
Disobedience to God..and the usual repercussions... For 1 any church that has women pastors and women preachers/teachers of men...that alone tells you there view on scripture..if they can over turn such a clear teaching..many other things will be overturned..they don't have a high view of scripture.. Women are also generally more compassionate..and proven to be more agreeable...meaning for the sake of ppls feelings women would more likely than a man go along with certain things.. Gay pastors are only a stone throw away from women pastors.. It's a consistent pattern we see in the secular world repeating in the church...that church..will be eroded away
@marleneanderson3440
2 жыл бұрын
A woman can preach verbatim but not teach men. Major difference.
@maynardnkambule71
2 жыл бұрын
The consequences of women preaching is HELL FIRE...PERIOD. REBELLIOUSNESS OF GODS WORD IS HELL FIRE... PERIOD.
@roryscott8176
2 жыл бұрын
A real Christian has a discerning spirit that spirit will not let you do anything against God's will without knowing that it is wrong if you can do something wrong and not feel any conviction you are wholeheartedly submissive to the devil's will temptations and desires in your life
@ronblack2700
2 жыл бұрын
Who came first God, or the Greek interpretation?
@christopherbird8458
2 жыл бұрын
Who gave us the Word in Greek?
@ronblack2700
2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbird8458 ….. The word was before Greek was even a name. What is in greek the greek translation was just taken from the holy Bible.
@samuelflores1419
2 жыл бұрын
Henry is not doing what he says Context, he is Not using Context! Brother is doing the Twisted Twisting of Scripture!
@tyeash7822
2 жыл бұрын
If a church has a women preacher keep moving period.
@beclear2473
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@BillyJoeBob-hd9fm
2 ай бұрын
MARTIN LUTHER: “Men have broad shoulders and narrow hips, and accordingly they possess intelligence. Women have narrow shoulders and broad hips. Women ought to stay at home; the way they were created indicates this, for they have broad hips and a wide foundation to sit upon.”
@bangamost1156
2 жыл бұрын
There is not one scripture in the Bible where God saids or it is said that God said woman can’t preach or teach . What Paul said , was Paul’s personal opinion, not the words of God. Paul never referenced a scripture , nor did he say the statement was from God. Paul Said (I) permit a woman not to teach/preach, that’s a personal statement from Paul, it was never a decree of God. Paul is not GOD.
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
So because Paul didn't say it was from God, it then holds no weight?? So what exactly does 2 Tim 3:16 mean to you? "ALL" scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Paul never said anything apart from what scripture teaches or what God led him to say
@michaeltorah4002
2 жыл бұрын
So because Paul didn't say it was from God, it then holds no weight?? So what exactly does 2 Tim 3:16 mean to you? "ALL" scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Paul never said anything apart from what scripture teaches or what God led him to say
@MyRoBeRtBaKeR
4 ай бұрын
Guess where He changes it? In Heaven, when there is no one given in marriage!
@stevenwalker6308
Жыл бұрын
Take a listen to Matt McMillan videos.
@reggiejones4227
Жыл бұрын
Where do these people come from? All of a sudden people know this and that, yeah right? RJ brother, who is that?
@jduffey320
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. The guy in the other video was trying to use a worldly perspective and argument. Cherry picking the verses he wants to talk about. The devil does the exact same thing. And witches
@derekharris7634
2 жыл бұрын
This [is] a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. (1 Timothy 3:1, KJV). Says man, the translation used is incorrect
@orlandoevansministriestv5740
Жыл бұрын
I have much respect for Bishop Henry, I just disagree on the women pastors issue.
@giftfromgodpostcardministr6547
5 ай бұрын
Women can preach and have authority over a (man). The Lord talked in parables. So that (NO) one that don't Rely on the holy ghost. Will not understanding no matter how many scriptures Greek Hebrew writings they read.
@MyRoBeRtBaKeR
4 ай бұрын
Order, as depicted with Jacob and Esau, before they were born God put the woman under the man.
@86lanzo
2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory on why God instituted male headship from the beginning of Creation..and carried it on in the church.. Hear me out.. It has nothing to do with the ability of women...I think it has to do with there demeanor and temperament.. The biggest difference between women and men in terms of personality is agreeableness.. Women are more agreeable..it's a proven fact...on a whole..there's always exceptions.. What that means is women would more likely tow the line...go along with certain things..not to cause a fus...couple that with emotional please and compassion...and you can see situations where a woman leader would go along with a situation...to not cause a stink...while a traditional man would stand more flat footed and not care how he looks.... That type of thing would be more evidence in high stakes situations.. My theory comes from Thinking about how God dead things...God equips you for the role He wants you to do..women are equipped for bringing new ppl into the world...if God has it for men to be leaders..there's has to be something He put in them..to equip them for that.. I understand ppl don't what to say women shouldn't be leaders.. because they don't have this or that...and we can just kill that and say because God says so..but... Like John Macarthur says there's a vulnerability that exists in women that don't exist to the same degree in men because he was deceived and Adam was not.
@rjc9537
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brother Corey, Question: Was Paul speaking on behalf of God when he said I do not permit a women? This is another important piece of the puzzle as we know that in other occasions Paul was known to speak his mind: Example: “To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife. To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?” 1 Corinthians 7:10-16 ESV Where 4 verses out of pocket? This is an interesting topic that speaks greater to the women in ministry issue. Can you address this in one of your videos? Would love to know what the Greek translation says about this… Thank you for your ministry! In Christ!
@mcneillmama50
Жыл бұрын
I think bad exegesis has led to this belief. certain churches have taken one verse out of context and broadly applied it for generations. You have to look at the culture that Paul wrote that particular verse. Back then were not educated, they weren't even allowed to question anyone about anything other than their husbands. They were required to keep their heads covered. The Wesleyan church ordains women into ministry. The Wesleyan church does a good job in showing how the bible does allow for women to be pastors, in a variety of roles. It is believed by studying the Greek and Hebrew language of Paul's verse, that he was referring to a woman (singular) in one church that was causing division. Also, other biblical scholars have pointed out that in the original language of the Bible, Paul used the words translated "likewise the women" should possess the character of the men deacons and ministers. Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene first at the empty tomb and charged her with spreading the gospel to the male disciples that Jesus was risen indeed. Our calling comes from God, not man. Billy Graham once said the his daughter, Ann Graham Lotz was the greatest pastor he ever knew. I believe the ground is level at the foot of the cross. Jesus elevated the status of women when he died and rose again and filled the entire assembly with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. There is neither man nor woman, slave nor free, Gentile or Jew. One bread, one body, one Lord of All.
@sherricunningham8925
2 жыл бұрын
I noted you use Greek translation, but you must also look at Hebrew equivalent words to get the deeper meaning. Remember, Paul was a Jew and thought like a Jew.
@gregorydempsey2021
2 жыл бұрын
There is two authorities a spiritual authority which all believers have against
@gregorydempsey2021
2 жыл бұрын
There is two authorities a spiritual authority which all believers have against unclean spirits and a governing authority which was given to leadership. That started in the beginning with Adam up to the Apostles even to us
@fuelforthefireministries8192
2 жыл бұрын
Ephesians 4 please read. The 5 fold ministry calling of God. It never refers to certain office is only to a male. The Lord has called me as an Apostle confirmation through more than one leader. If I a women called by Jesus Christ then what man can change what God has established. If I being a Apostle how then can I not build a church for that's what the apostles did and do. Better pray about it and search God about this. May God reveal truth to whoever truly wants to know. Many men do not want to even except it. A women does not Lord over a man. When moving in the Holy Spirit it is not the flesh speaking.
@edwardn.duncombeii3083
2 жыл бұрын
Good evening, hope you're well. Can you help me out regarding your statement? How did God call you as an Apostle and how was this confirmed? I'm asking because I thought the Apostles were selected by Jesus and had to have been with Jesus since the beginning of his ministry and had to have seen him after the resurrection. Just wanted a better understanding and more clarity on your statement. Thank you
@mckinzeymckinzey6332
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@gregorylatta8159
Жыл бұрын
We live in a modern world where traditional values are considered oppressive. Women can expound on scripture or teach children. They should not pastor adults however 🙄
@reggiejones4227
Жыл бұрын
He probably wants some money 😂 lol
@GioTummy3463
2 жыл бұрын
Notice how this charlatan manages to make it a black/white discussion in the end 🙄
@JElias-po6zu
2 жыл бұрын
Christianity has existed for about 2000 years along with the new testament....and people want to all of a sudden claim now, that they have figured out the real interpretation of scripture.🤦♂️
@sillybears4673
2 жыл бұрын
I just have one verse I want to question can someone please explain this to me where I feel it’s a message aligned with the moral standard I believe Jesus and his message represents.. dueteronomy 18-22 .. it basically states that a father and mother who had a son who doesn’t obey or listen and is a drunkard should be taken to be stoned to death by everyone in town.. that doesn’t sit right with me .. but again, I have never read the Bible in its entirety or much at all other then listening to preachers .. so is there a context that maybe I’m not understanding that could justify this seemingly wickedness to be asked of the believers in God back in those times?
@andraewilliams6429
2 жыл бұрын
Ok !! In 1st. Timothy 3 in verse 1 it says" THIS IS A TRUE SAYING " and then in verse 2 it says" A BISHOP MUST BE BLAMELESS,THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE", if nothing else that explains that it must be, not can be, but must be a man because a woman can not be a husband and she can not have a wife.... Only according to this wicked country and some other wicked countries can a woman have a wife, but according to the LORD GOD that's an abomination, and if the scriptures says " THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE" than that's what it means, it must be a man period regardless of people views or what they think things should be...Next !! Revelation 22:18-19 FOR I TESTIFY UNTO (EVERY MAN ) THAT HEARS THE WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK, IF (ANY MAN ) SHALL ADD UNTO THESE THINGS GOD SHALL ADD UNTO HIM THE PLAGUES THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK, AND IF (ANY MAN ) SHALL TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THIS PROPHECY GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY, AND FROM THE THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK... . So if someone adds to the scriptures GOD will judge him and remove him out of the book of Life, we rightly divide the scriptures but if we add or take away from them we are doomed....
@terrytimberlake8926
10 ай бұрын
Hold up.. when a person reads a part of God word and not all. Is not worthy to be listen to. They have an agenda. Because (he) is right after that, in the same chapter..
@maynardnkambule71
2 жыл бұрын
THERE IS A CHAMBER OF WOMEN PREACHERS ,PASTORS IN HELL FIRE.THEIR REBELLIOUSNESS HAVE LANDED THEM IN HELL FIRE.TAKE HEED PEOPLE.AMEN.
@anthonyblackwood9143
2 жыл бұрын
I do not permit a woman to teach....was that god speaking of Paul? Is it that everything that Paul says its coming from god? Paul says *i* do not....someone help me here
@kevaughnharrison9761
2 жыл бұрын
Paul was being embued by the Holy Spirit when writing these scriptures. If you read 1 Timothy chapter 4 you'll see he make reference to that.
@catherinefrancis9139
2 жыл бұрын
The Bible never said if anyone it says if any man there’s no woman in there or gender in there is he says if any men first Timothy chapter 3 verse one King James version
@matthewalston1226
4 ай бұрын
Yep... the old man is lying and doesn't understand the scriptures 😮
@taurencechisholm2791
2 жыл бұрын
These questions come up b/c some men are bad examples of how a pastor should speak and behave. The Sabbath was changed b/c the Jews set a bad example of how to keep the Sabbath. When God's ideal way is corrupted then different egos will blurt out anything to show their importance or value. Christ valued women immensely but how and why is lost - what we do know is anyone who's considered an underdog by the world's standard is highly valued in the spiritual realm. The handicap bed ridden constantly ill constantly put down and many others are the ppl of value. Some of the healthy and able body only love ppl who are considered high and mighty by the world. Any human can understand hold and share God's Word - positions and titles are not always important in every situation. We can't even agree that the Sabbath is on the 7th day of week so this debate goes nowhere.
@taurencechisholm2791
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 The Angels kept a type of Sabbath before the physical or visible was created so I believe you know nothing about the Sabbath when you say its everyday or its Sunday or 7 is the number of divine intervention. God is above the 7th Heaven so 8 9 or 10 can be divine intervention numbers. How we behave and how we treat ppl is all that's important and you and I are showing we don't know how to agree with each other so we can't walk together. You and I are examples of not knowing...
@taurencechisholm2791
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 Numbers the Sabbath prayer music art exercise etc. are all important but how we treat ppl is most important actions speak louder than words. My actions are saying you won this debate and if you wanna have dinner so that I show you my humility than I would do that - I give you the crown 👑 on this one.
@taurencechisholm2791
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrypaul7706 Who knows maybe we'll have surf and turf together one day that wouldn't hurt my little feelings at all - much like to love...
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
It went to the 8th day Day after sabbath
@taurencechisholm2791
2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenking47 Yes God also blessed the 8th day b/c that's when the rain began to start life and growth that's from the Book of Jubilees. With certain Feast like the Feast of Tabernacle there's an 8th day and Christ was circumcised on the 8th. I didn't want to go into that but that's part of God's subtleties and how He blessed both Sat and Sun and Constantine really added to the Sabbath but didn't know it and most don't know that both days can recognized as a Sabbath but not everyday we work 5-6 days a week not 7 days a week - 5 is good 6 is extra 7 is too much and we can rest on either day but that's an unknown secret that's not important to most ppl but it could solve 1 small controversy. But the Jews did set a bad example and Christ did lots of teaching about the Sabbath...
@nellybelly623
Жыл бұрын
A woman cannot be the husband to one wife…😉
@mrupholsteryman
2 жыл бұрын
In the same sentence...he tells us we don't know the meaning and that it is an idiom...and that we need to let it be taught to us in the context.... so what is it? We know or know it not? Or is he just trying to cause doubt... sounds like the one in the garden.... are you sure that's what God meant?....🤔
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