I game the 921 forged, when struck well it’s like hitting a squash ball - sooo soft and that solid forged sound to boot.
@JayJay-jx3zg
11 ай бұрын
“When struck well”, that’s the problem. Toe and heel strikes are punished a bit more than with the Apex. Off days are really off days with the 921, not so much with the Callaway. You’re better to judge your irons, or any club on your misses.
@darrenkeogh3321
2 жыл бұрын
I went for a fitting on Saturday as my current Srixon irons were brought from a friend a long time ago,I was always missing greens to the right,with a high ballooning type flight... The fitter quickly realised the regular shafts in the Srixons were not for me and my club head speed(90mph ish) I was leaning towards the Mizunos before I got there,however for me the Apex had a much better feel and consistency and straighter ball flight and spin numbers were great. Love the feel of the Apex and can’t wait to get them 😊 Current handicap 13.6,hopefully single figures in the 2022 season 🤞🏽 Great video 👍🏼
@davis1588
2 жыл бұрын
I find it funny he releases the video 3 hours prior of me purchasing the 921 forged 😂😂 Great video
@tompolkinghorne3264
2 жыл бұрын
I have the 921 forged. And absolutely love them ,
@kevinfriesen5081
2 жыл бұрын
I have a set of APEX CF16 but now I use the JPX 919 Forged 😍 I like them cuz the lofts are a little more traditional and they really do feel like butter
@DoBraveryFPS
2 ай бұрын
I came from PXG XCor2's to Mizuno 921 Forged (found them new on ebay). The PXG's (delofted) served me well, but my swing out grew them. I must say that the Mizuno's are so responsive, my swing is actually improving due to the feedback.
@jasonjordan8578
2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the jpx 921 forged and really like them! The look behind the golf ball gives me so much more confidence than my titleist t100s. Any iron that offers more forgiveness with that buttery feel is a complete win in my book! I'll be playing these for many years to come🏌️♂️
@drx9701
Жыл бұрын
If u don’t mind me askin what’s your handicap?
@jasonjordan8578
Жыл бұрын
@@drx9701 I'm an 8 handicap, you?
@midhc5072
2 жыл бұрын
Got the Mizuno Jpx921 Forged 5-PW with T20 wedges. Best clubs I’ve ever played. Dumped the 4i for a hybrid. Project X light stiff shafts at no up charge.
@bryansmith7490
2 жыл бұрын
I compared them head to head and chose the Apex 21. I have not looked back and could not be happier.
@Jacacatt
2 жыл бұрын
Purchased the JPX921 Forged early this year and tbh they weren't high on my list of clubs I wanted to demo but the performance, forgiveness and no charge options made them an easy winner.
@leesmith5759
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the mizuno 921 forged for me 😍 would love a set of these......
@stephendibari5010
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison Mike ! In May 2021 I was custom fit for 2019 version Titleist T 200s and I have to say they feel like butter if you hit them on the sweet spot BUT if you spray a little bit on the face you get a loud clunky noise which I’ve found out is because the hollow portion of the head is not filled with Epoxy or sound dampening material. This makes me want to compare them against the Mizuno JPX 921 forged. 2 reasons that’s making me stick to the T200’s is the Forgiveness, they are very forgiving and I don’t want to trade them in or sell them. If I trade them in I would have to shell out about $900 to get the Mizuno‘s. If I sell them maybe half that. Just not a priority now.
@Noximus03
2 жыл бұрын
Played the Apex 21 all season coming out of a set of Miura CB-301's. Dropped my index a full 3 points to 10.3 to end the 2021 season. Was it all the irons? No, it wasn't, but they sure didn't hurt my progress.......
@MichaelM-to4sg
2 жыл бұрын
The big difference in std deviation among spin w/Mizuno could be your ball striking but I’ve found similar results in testing these. I’m a former blade player, mostly Orlimar’s back when Lou was hand grinding custom sets in California for numerous touring pros. When I wore out last set after son Jesse took over the company I bought 1st set of Mizuno’s, MP32’s. Loved them, went through 2 sets. I finally tried some forged cavity backs 10-12 years ago, none were as playable as the the MP32. I finally gave in and bought Apex16’s. I enjoyed some solid golf with them. I however had same issues you were having w/JPX921, inconsistent ball flight on slightest of mishits. Balls ballooning, inconsistent distances on mid-long irons and particularly difficult consistency in rough or less than ideal lies. I honestly don’t know how touring pros with brilliantly consistent ball striking can play cavity backs on tour. My guess is highly modified sole grinds but who knows. I went this Spring to test irons, tested many forged cb’s and even a few blades, both the new hollow core and traditional forging. Finally ended up w/set of Muira’s; combo 201 4-6, 501 7-PW. Played my best golf in nearly a decade, pretty impressive given my 62 year old body. My gir stats are improved nearly 20%. The 201’s feel softer and slightly more consistent than the Apex 16’s, my scoring however is primarily due to improved consistency and control w/501’s. I’m more confident on my approaches knowing the exact yardages I can hit consistently w/o risk of flyer or ballooned shot out of less than perfect lie. It looks like the Apex 21 delivered those results for you, JPX clearly did not. Can’t score consistently unless you know the exact distance and spin you will get from a solid struck 7-iron.
@walterdurand9472
2 жыл бұрын
Purchase the 921 forged because of choice of shaft n grips looking at your numbers I believe 921 would have had a tighter dispersion if they where hit second but thank you for your expert insight again
@andrewgalvin1318
2 жыл бұрын
If he just removed that 1 pull (user error in this case), they were almost identical ovals! alot of ppl hit 6 and keep 5 or 12 and keep 10 (remove shortest and longest) to get real median! But i like this guys vid and what a swing!
@kylemeitzler6602
2 жыл бұрын
I hit these two and also the Szrixon ZX5 which I had no plan on buying and ended choosing the szrixon over the apex. They were 1A1B but Szrixon where cheaper so I went with those.
@skithewhitestuff
2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison of these two irons. I haven’t used either but on looks alone I think the Mizuno’s take the biscuit.
@Snookerboy-jw1vp
2 жыл бұрын
I was playing the Apex 21 DCB's but had a horrible experience with them (rusted after 2 rounds of 9 holes) and Callaway customer support was blaming me for cleaning the clubs with water so I got rid of them and for a fitting experience at a Mizuno in the Netherlands and the result is I am now playing with the 921 Forged and they feel awesome when struck well. Also, my dispersion is a lot tighter compared to the Apex 21 DCB's. Great video on comparing these two as my mate plays the Apex 21 from Callaway.
@dansburns
6 ай бұрын
DCB is more of a GI iron than either of these.
@martinmartinez2275
2 жыл бұрын
I own the APEX 21, and was a Mizuno guy for well over 20 yrs, just wanted a change and I made the right move APEX21
@ashleybrown6060
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently switch from mizuno Mp-59 irons to the jpx forged and love them.
@home4ya
2 жыл бұрын
seems HM Pro vs Apex would be best head to head? love to see that esp dispersion
@allahalibaba9063
2 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews Michael...Both irons are great, but I think for me the Mizuno 921 Hot Metal would give me a bit more help getting to a zero handicap range.....I know that these are the Forged model, but I did not feel to much difference between the forged vs the cast...in Mizuno....Also I am not much of a fan for 1/2 lofts....Can't see why these companies do it.....
@bornuponawave
2 жыл бұрын
Just got fitted for these today. I’ve never hit a more buttery iron. The feel is unmatched. I can finally carry my 7 iron 190.
@JamminWithJer
2 жыл бұрын
How far did you hit before?
@bornuponawave
2 жыл бұрын
@@JamminWithJer 172-176. I’m only hittin them 190 if I’m steppin on it. More like 180-184.
@automatikstatik
2 жыл бұрын
Switched from Apex DCBs to JPX 921 Forged. Apex DCBs had stronger lofts, 10-15yds longer distances and more towering trajectory, draw bias offset. Great clubs, very forgiving, but less workable. The JPX 921 Forged are more workable, more accurate and better distance control if you have a confident swing. They also look better IMO.
@dansburns
6 ай бұрын
DCBs are not in the same category.
@spncrw
2 жыл бұрын
Played Callaway diablo (their first foray into forged bodies) with carpenter steel (not forged) faces - those were the precurosors to the Apex line which I moved into and then from original Apex to Apex CF16. Skipped the CF19s and got fit into the 921 forged. Both sets Apex line and JPX are great - you can't go wrong with either BUT I far prefer the sound, looks and options with the 921s. I do think they feel better but center strikes on both will always feel good. Looking at the comments, JPX seem to dominate and I definitely agree having to pick between the two.
@InsuranceSpecialist
2 жыл бұрын
Great review, very data inclusive and thorough. The mizuno look more playerish than those callys tho.
@patrickk611
2 жыл бұрын
Still gaming a Apex cf16 and still enjoying it!
@jamesburrows5698
2 жыл бұрын
I've played the Apex 21 all year and loved them. I almost ended up in a set of JPX 921 HMPs, but have yet to hit the Forged set.
@tigerzoo325
10 ай бұрын
Do your apex 21 have a screw on top? Mine don’t and I’m wondering why
@gazr99
2 жыл бұрын
These and the Srixon ZX5's are definitely some of the irons I'm eyeing up next
@jasonlewis995
2 жыл бұрын
Zx5 sound like hitting an empty steel drum...zx7 are as smooth as silk.
@martinpedersen7785
2 жыл бұрын
great video michael :-D can you PLEASE do a Srixon zx5 VS Takomo 201 test... cheers from denmark
@jimfarrell7196
2 жыл бұрын
Mizuno dispersion in this comparison is a no go. Surprised to see this.
@OHGGOLF
2 жыл бұрын
Your swing path is AMAZING 😍
@davedevine8695
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual!
@martinkorsrud4017
2 жыл бұрын
Play JPX921 Forged 4 through Gap. Just love them. I did not test the Apex21, but tested the JPX921 against P790 and P770. Still chose the JPX. Only minor regret is that I did not blend with the JPX Tour’s on 8-Gap. Great review as always. Love your swing by the way.
@chadgalland2493
2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, although I would say the opposite when it comes to which company has the advantage. Callaway offer left handed Mizuno doesn't.
@MyGenXGolf2024
2 жыл бұрын
I’m left handed and I have mizuno np-54 and I saw the jpx at golf galaxy yesterday in left handed they don’t offer left handed in combo sets to where callaway does
@brandonleach1029
2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Had a question about the dispersion. Did the irons have different shafts on them? I wondered how much that might effect the dispersion difference.
@MichaelNewtonGolf
2 жыл бұрын
Same shaft, flex, length & lie 👍
@cwugrad396
2 жыл бұрын
i just bought a set of Apex irons bc i was able to get the MMT 105 TX shaft for only $15 extra per iron and the MCC grip was no up charge.
@Brooks_Cupcake
2 жыл бұрын
Actually that shaft is free with the Apex and the grip was the upcharge.
@cwugrad396
2 жыл бұрын
@@Brooks_Cupcake that may be true where you live. where i live, $15 extra for the shaft and $0 for the MCC grip. i called Callaway directly (Carlsbad, California) and ordered them a week ago so i know i am not wrong
@razakhan999
2 жыл бұрын
i got these apex 21 this year in nippon NS Pro 120 gram stiff shafts... have played a few months with em and love em.. the consistency and the forgivness on of centre strikes i amazing... longer irons from 7 to 5 launch in a nice high window which helps stop quicker. played jpx 900 forged a while back 8 to pw were nice but struggled with 5-7 iron.. came out very low and jpx900 were not as forgiving and i wasnt as consistent with them as compared to the apex21 ... and as for feel jpx series is not as good feeling as the MP series in mizuno . jpx might feel slightly better that apex21 but not much in it.
@JohnnyDSR
2 жыл бұрын
There is clearly a subset of players who's higher handicaps are due more to their short game, pitching, chipping and especially putting that drive their hdcp numbers to the high side. I know a few that are very good iron and driver players but fall apart when they get inside 150 yards. Mizuno JPX 921Forged. I have a set of MP 225 on order but I would choose Mizuno over Callaway all day long with respect to irons.
@wnfakind9197
2 жыл бұрын
Good video . Can you do a top 5 drivers of 2021 video ?? Please. Cheers
@richwheeler5763
2 жыл бұрын
Callaway Apex 21's, please - is there much improvement on them from the 19 though? Personal choice would be the TCB 21's - good comparison though, thanks!
@BidenIsKing
2 жыл бұрын
Apex looks like it has more consistency
@adyc7357
2 жыл бұрын
PXG 0311P feel much softer than my old CF19 performance same and only £810 so advantage PXG imo
@home4ya
2 жыл бұрын
great vid, where would JPX Hm Pro compare to these 2?
@joepawling4735
2 жыл бұрын
I’m a mid-handicap and I’ve been looking at the APEX 21. Then I saw the Mizuno Pro 223 and they are beautiful. Is that to hard of an iron for someone whose a 15-18 hdcp? Should I be looking more at the hot metal? Look forward to your reply
@bornuponawave
2 жыл бұрын
They are a good looking iron but are more difficult to hit consistently. Apex will make the game fun.
@joepawling4735
2 жыл бұрын
@@bornuponawave thanks for the feedback, I was leaning toward the Apex 21’s. I will try them both one last time.
@dropammobro992
2 жыл бұрын
921 forged is the best iron I have ever played
@OHGGOLF
2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to try mizuno for next season.. I’ve always been a Taylormade guy 🙌🏻
@wnfakind9197
2 жыл бұрын
I have the JPX 921 HMP and 2021 Taylormade P790’s , I find since I’m not the best ball striker don’t get a lot of distance out of the P790’s
@OHGGOLF
2 жыл бұрын
@@wnfakind9197 I’m a good ball striker, currently lol. Might slip as I get older mind 😂 I’m getting fit early next season. But I might still stay with Taylormade.. I’m not sure. So many to choose from 👌🏻 but another quality review from Newts 🙌🏻👌🏻
@geoffreypleavin5268
2 жыл бұрын
What would be the ping equivalent iron to these two?
@rickpetryk2658
2 жыл бұрын
Well mizuno doesn't make 921 forged in lefty
@rogerhill99
2 жыл бұрын
What is your definition of a high handicapper?
@bepatient1000
2 жыл бұрын
Either set would do me if I had a spare grand
@markpogson3799
2 жыл бұрын
To my ear the Mizuno sounded better. The Callaway had a harder, slight clickiness to it.
@geraldlapalme4510
2 жыл бұрын
I had purchased the Callaway Apex pro 2021, what a mistake, no feeling at all with these irons, they were returned. I think the new Callaway irons are not as good as the 2019 versions. Am now using TM P7MC, what a great feeling iron.
@rogerhill99
2 жыл бұрын
Came to the same conclusion
@tigerzoo325
10 ай бұрын
Why does this apex have a screw on top and mine doesn’t?
@MichaelNewtonGolf
10 ай бұрын
Fitting head
@otherone1234
Жыл бұрын
In every other review everyone is raving about the tight dispersion of the 221 forged lol and also not so tight for the apex forged. What happened here?
@MichaelNewtonGolf
Жыл бұрын
Clearly I’m not everyone else lol
@brianthornton5345
2 жыл бұрын
Jpx forged
@kevinconnolly754
2 жыл бұрын
yeah you left out the Cobra forged tec 😬 better feel than both of them in my opinion
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