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@Anonymous38572
2 жыл бұрын
What could cause him to lose his shotgun? An animal attack is the only thing I can think of. Bc he either lost it before he was dropping his other items, or someone who killed him took it with them.
@Seetj
2 жыл бұрын
Are you connected with the bedtime stories KZitem channel at all? I was just curious cause the art style on the thumbnails and drawings are similar
@dionst.michael1482
2 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled onto your channel. Like the format. I'll enjoy checking out your content. Thanks.
@marhawkman303
2 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous38572 Nah, I'm guessing that people just didn't find it. no telling what else they may have missed. That final bit at the end there about how close they were to safety.... my cousin TJ died only a few dozen yards from the truck he drove to that campsite on, and where his best friends was sleeping. When things go wrong.... well it sucks... and sometimes help is impossible. If Chet had seen TJ... maybe TJ wouldn't have died, but he didn't and TJ died after falling in the lake.
@edwardbrown4311
2 жыл бұрын
Love to have a compilation of all your videos because I like to fall asleep listening to your stories God bless these missing people and thank God for people like this keeping their names and hope alive for their families for some kind of closure God bless and amen
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf
2 жыл бұрын
This channel is like a diamond in the turd field that is YT "missing persons" videos. Rather than regurgitating the same scawy stories that D. P. wrote about, this guy actually goes out of his way to cover new cases, but more importantly, to actually do the research and present the cases as factually as possible. You deserve more subscribers - keep it up!
@Bella.216
2 жыл бұрын
But he does do the one's the D.P does but he actually gives us all of the important information that D.P doesn't. We all know why D.P does that now don't we. 😂
@Ts0usermax
2 жыл бұрын
_the turd field that is YT "missing persons" videos._ 😆
@no_peace
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bella.216 100%
@rdaws73
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bella.216 Explain
@scottcantdance804
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bella.216 Explain!
@KowboyUSA
2 жыл бұрын
For balance, compasses needles are usually two needles pointing 180-degress apart. If Kory Kelly was given a compass and told to _go West if lost again,_ and he was found to the East, he very well could've been reading the wrong needle.
@userequaltoNull
Жыл бұрын
Well, I'd call it one needle rotating around it's central axis, but okay. Because it's usually just one object.
@exiled1gaming
8 ай бұрын
I have wondered before why they don't mark the north needle with an N and instead just mark it red a lot of the time. It seems obvious, but an N would be more clear than a color.
@marcusmiller5443
6 ай бұрын
One needle. Only points in one direction, being center (pole). The earth is a living record, on an ethereal record player.
@rifleman1002
3 ай бұрын
A lot of people also forget to use the heading line. It's so damn useful, but if you don't know how to use it, a compass is actually more dangerous for that exact reason you stated. Hiking beads and a compass help exponentially in the wilderness, you JUST need that one home heading and you're golden.
@marcusmiller5443
3 ай бұрын
A compass is easily made with a single needle in water. You're wrong.
@hamwallet8446
2 жыл бұрын
And a tip for the people that get lost on hiking trails because they decided to go off the trail to use the bathroom. Well. You take a brightly colored piece of paracord and wrap it around the first tree off of the trail and the other end to your belt loop. Paracord is usually 500 ft. That’s plenty of distance from the trail and you can follow your cord back to the trail. if someone sees you taking a dump big deal at least you won’t get lost when you’re done and turn around to wipe and forget which way you came lol
@chunky9791
2 жыл бұрын
Nice, but me personally I'm walking 10 feet to the side & pissing or shitting brother lmao
@hamwallet8446
2 жыл бұрын
@@chunky9791 same!😂😂😂 But some people have that privacy thing that makes them self conscious about being seen and they go too far from the trail and get lost lol
@meredithgrubb7027
2 жыл бұрын
@@hamwallet8446 im a woman but grew up using the bathroom outside all the time. My dad never really saw the point of having to leave the woods or go all the way back to the house to do that, im glad he did it too. It used to blow my mind in high school, we would all go smoking and drinking in the Smoky Mountains and naturally, the girls always wanted someone to go use the bathroom with them and it was usually me they asked. The distance these girls were willing to go to try and be discreet or private was terrifying to me, just plain stupid dangerous. I spent many nights trying to teach them easier ways to do it so they don't have to worry about being seen and it would be less dangerous but they never listened and would continue to risk their life everytime they needed to piss or shit.
@onefastr6
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m pooping or peeing about 3 feet off trail.
@jerrymoore838
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I'll pee in place and anything else can wait
@carterstephens8375
Жыл бұрын
I am friends with Jacob Beetlers brother, it was a hard time for a lot of people and looking for him, he is still missed deeply.
@MGW27
2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the actual compass he was using, it may have been as simple as him misreading it and thinking he was heading west when he was actually heading east. Old-school compasses have a needle that points north and south, and if the needle is not clearly marked or if the user is reading it incorrectly it wouldn't be impossible to make this mistake.
@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes
2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but there are so many other markers one can use. I never have a compass, and I don't go off into wilderness areas. My advice is based on my status as an observational astronomer (I hold undergrad degrees in both chemistry and physics, as well as a graduate degree in math) The sun sets in the west and rises in the east, which everyone knows However, in the Northern Hemisphere (which is even more important for people who live at my latitude - 45N) The sun stays low in the southern sky during winter months, and high during summer. For the moon and planets, the SEASONAL opposite is true Namely that the moon and planets ride high in winter AT NIGHT, and low in the southern NIGHT sky during summer. This is because the moon and planets are most easily seen at night, that is, when the sun is not around Next point - get to know your 3 main planets, namely Venus, Jupiter and Mars Venus is the third brightest object in the sky, and you can't mistake her if you take the time to get to know her. However, she will always be relatively near the sun, sometimes rising before the sun, and other times setting after the sun. For this reason, she's not tremendously useful because if you can see her, you can pretty much tell either where the sun has recently set, or is soon going to rise. Still, you need to be familiar with her so you don't confuse her with Jupiter. Now, if Jupiter is visible at all, he is almost certainly the brightest object in the night sky if Venus and the Moon aren't around, because he pretty much ranks #4 behind the big 3. If it's summer, Jupiter will ride low, and if it's winter, he will ride high, unless he has either risen recently (in the east), or is about to set in the west Next planet of importance is Mars. He's generally #5 in brightness, but what makes him distinct is his orange-ish color If it's summer, Mars will ride low, and if it's winter, he will ride high, unless he has either risen recently (in the east), or is about to set in the west I could easily turn this into an extensive lecture on observational astronomy, but I will close by talking about Polaris - aka Alpha Ursa Minoris aka The North Star. This star is extremely important because it always always always defines true north, no matter the time/season, if you can see it at all. However, most people assume it's a very bright star, but it isn't. It's not as bright as the other 5 objects I have described. In fact, it ranks only 50th in brightness among visible stars! So it won't knock your socks off. To locate it, find The Big Dipper aka Ursa Majoris, which consists of 7 stars, each brighter than Polaris. The last two stars in the bowl, opposite to the handle, point directly to Polaris. Start at the sixth star, and follow a line through the 7th star, and at maybe 10X the distance from 6th to 7th (this is a rough estimate), you'll find Polaris
@werquantum
2 жыл бұрын
Especially if you’re a meth head.
@archygrey9093
2 жыл бұрын
@@werquantum He didn't have anything like that in his system at the time.
@werquantum
2 жыл бұрын
@@archygrey9093 So it was reported. As a meth user, I’m sure he had the discipline to save it for later.
@rogerfarren9946
2 жыл бұрын
Thats my thoughts also. He may not have known how to use a compass correctly and was too embarrassed to admit it. I've seen several grown adults with no clue how a compass works.
@SuperiorSteve4
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Jacob Beetler got lost. My wife and I helped to search the SC campground area towards Ruby Dome. That event changed my habits when hiking and hunting alone. Ever since that time, I have traveled with a Garmin InReach.
@baby_boi123
2 жыл бұрын
This artwork is absolutely insane. It really does add something special to the story. Even if it's a tragic one. Appreciate your hard work. Thank you!
@8_x_9.
Жыл бұрын
That downed tree trunk reminds me of an animal. Cold be drawn better.
@frederickdavis6393
Жыл бұрын
It’s not drawn it computer animated I believe. It looks just like the art from Bedtime Stories which is computer animated.
@sulumsphony66
Жыл бұрын
Especially when it’s tragic
@SRTKOVA
Жыл бұрын
@@8_x_9. I did say that it looked weird I thought maybe a cryptic but yah just a horrible looking trunk
@Lenn869
3 ай бұрын
@@8_x_9. clearly intentional but ok
@lukeguido4470
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you put vids like this out more often. But then, I understand the amount of research it takes for you does pose a limit on how quickly you are able to post....., and it does add to the appreciation I have when watching. :)
@JoeMac1983
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I keep going out of my way on a weekly basis to check the Missing Enigma channel just to make sure I didn't miss an upload. Top notch content!
@michpratt1
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention his art depiction of the scenes. Incredible!
@TrineDaely
2 жыл бұрын
@@michpratt1 Was going to say not just the research, scripting, recording, and editing, but the art takes time as well. I've made a couple (minus original art, which I wouldn't want to try and no one would want to look at) and it really gives me an appreciation for creators able to consistently put out quality videos with regularity. Going through materials involving death reports (regardless of manner of death) takes a toll, too.
@hengedraws
2 жыл бұрын
I love stuff like this as well!!!
@jomoland
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeMac1983 definitely a treat when he post a new video!
@thatcreepyxmastreeinyourat8950
Жыл бұрын
I can explain many of these disappearances: Directional Dislexia. It's rare and people who have it don't often understand that they do. In fact it took me decades to realize I have this disorder, I fear admitting it to anyone but people always notice after awhile. Thankfully my loved ones and friends have usually been very supportive.
@billymanziel5666
Жыл бұрын
That must be frustrating, sorry to hear that
@thatcreepyxmastreeinyourat8950
Жыл бұрын
@billymanziel5666 It can be. I made the decision to stop driving in my 20s because even though I am a good driver I can get confused by a sudden or unforseen route. I feel it's better to be safe😌. I have gotten lost in my own neighborhood if I don't pay attention. Things like levers or hallways can throw me off despite how many times I've traversed/used them. It's odd because I have no issues with reading or math.... but tell me to "go left" and I will somehow always end up going right 😆 (my family jokes if Angie points you in one direction you better go the opposite direction!)
@keithangstadt4950
Жыл бұрын
I have it. I often joke with people that I couldn't find my own ass without a GPS. I'm good with a map and compass; I was a land navigation instructor in the Army, but without said map and compass, I could get lost in my own house.
@hadleytorres8171
2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing that makes my wife angrier than to learn that I didn't go exactly where I told her I was going,. That is when I'm fishing or hunting in the woods or desert. She doesn't care if I made a last minute change of plan, or if I simply went anther direction. She wants to know where to find my ass off the need arises.
@gh3776
2 жыл бұрын
Very true. My husband hikes and often alone, so it is very important I know where he goes.
@williambell3893
2 жыл бұрын
personal safety beacons. anything less is just uncivilized..hiking/bushcraft and/or primitive camping is definitely NOT for anyone. As In Cory Kellys case. it was a disaster in the making. WAY too many dangerous variables that were exploited that caused his demise. specifically when you involve methamphetamine into the mix.
@hadleytorres8171
2 жыл бұрын
@@williambell3893 uncivilized is a funny word for someone wanting to get away from civilization though nature. But yeah meth and anything makes for a disaster waiting to happen. It's just a matter of timing. On a note for a sober, in tune with reality type person, yes i agree 100% if your going into the woods and are really out there you need a locator beacon. I don't use mine unless I'm going of trail. I fish rivers that are clear and mapped, but when I fish alpine lakes, or when I hunt deer and elk I use a beacon. I probably should be more disciplined, but I'm not, then again my wife knows where I am and when to expect me back. When I go any further than a half mile from the trail or road I map out my expected route for her anyway, and I give her my 4 A.M. possible mind change route and destination as well.
@williambell3893
2 жыл бұрын
@@hadleytorres8171 I've always had a thing for finding "forgotten ponds" nothing like knowing you are either the first to ever fish it or the first to have been there in decades.
@hadleytorres8171
2 жыл бұрын
@@williambell3893 I love ponds and lakes that no one fishes! I'm from Utah and I've found lakes in the Uintah and manti lasal mountains that I'm certain no one has seen or fished for many many a year.
@michaelbiscay9836
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that there's enough evidence to clear James as a suspect in the first case, because his whole account of events is sus as hell. What's the point of making a random 90 minute round trip to put gas in a vehicle while you're in the woods camping? He couldn't have gotten the gas on the way home? Also the fact that 100% of the story of what happened comes solely from James.
@h.boylen6334
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering if it was drug related like he stole something from him but didn’t get the stash in the lip balm because of how it was hidden.
@chrisemerson7743
2 жыл бұрын
Also the fact that he had supposedly already loaded the truck up with their gear sounds like BS. The fire ring hadn’t been used either tells me this was probably the second camp location. Like James killed him somewhere else to confuse LE. It’s pretty obvious the way those reports looked that the deputy was buying James story either but that’s all they have!
@booognish
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, they were likely on drugs so, odd behavior kind of goes with the territory… Trust me, I messed with meth and literally ended up doing 5 days in a mental hospital. Shit is powerful..
@hullandras
2 жыл бұрын
His toxicology report came back negative.. No drugs or alcohol was found in his body
@thebeasters
Жыл бұрын
@@hullandras would that of dissolved after so long?
@Kroggnagch
Жыл бұрын
3:05 having him focused on the “monster-shaped” pile of root mass and whatever else was a nice touch. It’s that kind of stuff that gives this art such vibrant life.
@13donstalos
5 ай бұрын
Dude yeah that thing always freaks me out
@AlaborJinta
3 ай бұрын
@@13donstalos always? you often see that drawing? where? how often?
@AlaborJinta
3 ай бұрын
why is monster shaped in quotations?
@opiesmith9270
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that is incredibly odd for someone in the grips of paradoxical undressing to have any intentionality at all, like hiding their clothes in a crack in the cliff wall or folding it tying their clothes up. A person near death from hypothermia, undressing themselves because their body is dying and they feel like they are intensely hot, is basically in psychosis. So they wouldn’t be hiding their clothes for later, they wouldn’t be doing anything rational. Perhaps close to death, he did stuff his clothes in the cliff, and organize them thinking once he cooled off he would reclaim them, but it is definitely not something you usually see. Clothes are usually cast off randomly, as they continue to desperately find salvation. Sad.
@MrJerry160
2 жыл бұрын
He is wired differently and perhaps deals with stress in different ways that the average person would not expect. One wouldn't assume there to be some sort of order to the chaos of a paradoxical undressing but he was in an altered state of consciousness; so many possible actions could have taken place.
@jeremiahjohnson9908
2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect....THEY DO sometimes neatly organize their clothes before succumbing...happened very recently to a family member.
@andrewrobertson3894
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahjohnson9908 You recently lost a family member out in the mountains, who neatly folded and stored their clothes before succumbing to hypothermia? That is a freaky coincidence.
@jeremiahjohnson9908
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobertson3894 ....not in the mountains...but in the cold woods.
@andrewrobertson3894
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahjohnson9908 Well, that's scary to think about. Sorry. Not that it matters now, but why didn't they make a fire?
@vikingskuld
2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you I definitely appreciate the clear no nonsense and accurate way you research these and clear up some of the confusion others put out. Much appreciated
@penelopelopez8296
2 жыл бұрын
The first case is very odd. The man had a spinal injury but he can walk through the woods for twelve miles? I would think that would be quite difficult to do with that type of injury. And the dog showing up emaciated and dehydrated is strange because there was water in the creek. Never go out in the woods alone.
@archygrey9093
2 жыл бұрын
Spinal injuries can be mild and be something you avoid doing hard labour with like lifting boxes, walking isn't very hard on it. Also the dog was found at the trail not the creek, it probably had walked for miles looking for someone.
@HubertofLiege
2 жыл бұрын
Well, they found no trace of opiates in his blood so he wasn’t taking a lot of them, lately.
@chrisemerson7743
2 жыл бұрын
@@archygrey9093 what? “Spinal injuries can be mild and walking isn’t very hard on it”! Do u have a spinal injury? Do u have any idea wtf u are talking about? Sure the dog was found on a trail but that doesn’t take away the fact this state is known as the land of 10 thousand lakes for a reason! There is water everywhere. Is this James the hunting partner or some 8yr old on mom or dads iPad! what the fuck!
@ucantSQ
6 ай бұрын
I've been reading the comments from these videos, and it seems that panic is likely to blame. You loose track of time and distance traveled. You don't feel pain. You might not even see or hear humans nearby trying to help you. It's super bizzare. Almost scary how complety people succumb to the panic.
@karenc4544
5 ай бұрын
Not if you’re on painkillers and meth.
@amyntut
2 жыл бұрын
The part of James leaving Kory to get gas makes no sense. I think he left Kory there after an argument and gave him wrong directions. He got the gas as an alibi. If he needed gas he could've gotten it when him and Kory were done hunting etc.
@manuelcedillo2717
Жыл бұрын
Yeah idk why more people aren’t talking about that
@leosmith5682
Жыл бұрын
@@manuelcedillo2717I don’t think James would’ve just left his dog there
@justlucky8254
Жыл бұрын
Maybe he went to go meet his dealer.
@whoisajones1
2 жыл бұрын
It’s great to see companies sponsoring your videos now…I’ve been watching since damn near the very beginning of your channel and although I love the older uninterrupted videos I’m happy to see that these companies have noticed what I knew after my first watch. And I’ve watched tons of channels that cover the same sort of things you do, And for my money, in a very short time you have risen to the top. The research and work you put into the narration and drawings and the advice and personal thoughts you give at the end of the vids are all spot on. And as much as I want things to be supernatural I thank you for keeping it real and laying out all the evidence and never trying to add more or leave out certain facts to make things seem more mysterious than they already are. I guess what I’m trying to say is keep up the good work and I’m happy you’re getting sponsors, you deserve it.
@h.boylen6334
2 жыл бұрын
I concur!
@geminidream4347
2 жыл бұрын
I would never tell a rescue team the person they are looking for has any sort of mental issues. It does not help in my opinion, it hurts it. If you know anyone that goes into areas like this, please tell them to get a personal locator beacon and some recco tape for their backpack and hat if they wear the same one. This tape makes it easy for the FLR camera on rescue helicopters to find you. These items also make great gifts. My heart goes out to their families and friends.
@geminidream4347
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes I know! It's just that I have been following rescues for years now and every time they say the person has any kind of mental issues, the rescuers seem not to put in as much effort or speed to find these people. Not all mental health people are the textbook perfect example of what ever they have been diagnosed with! Not all just go on a walk-about and will come home! Not all have gone off to dispose of themselves either! Society has to change the way they view mental health. No two minds are ever the same in the way they think!!
@randybaumery5090
2 жыл бұрын
I sadly agree. In this day and age , there is still a stigma to it. I personally have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder towards mania. I have zero suicidal tendencies. Yet, there are people who think that people like me do and will. I would probably want to survive as badly as anyone.
@no_peace
2 жыл бұрын
It's not really safe to tell anyone that kind of stuff, all they do is use it against you (Talking about doctors)
@mbnsw
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it’s more that their movements are already less predictable rather then a preconceived notion that they are doomed? Many cases where a person had trouble communicating seem to survive against all odds, just located in the opposite direction, much further away than assumed or right under their nose. Who knows it’s all quite bizarre
@bennygerow
2 жыл бұрын
How does it hurt it?
@jackofalltrades123
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it takes alot of effort and energy to do all the research to make these videos and I just want to say thank you for all that you do sir
@giselleyfish3612
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Thank you!!
@chriscoker7794
2 жыл бұрын
Kory Kelly's hunting partner kinda threw him out for the wolves to finish off? Seems like that he knew that he wasn't an experienced woodsman and damn sure wasn't a survivalist.
@allamericananti-christ666
2 жыл бұрын
Had known he'd already gotten lost once that day so he gives him a compass & directions (just in case, wink wink) & then leaves him alone to make a special 90 minute trip for gas. Gee. Prob be pretty easy to tell an inexperienced outdoorsman how to incorrectly read a compass or tell them the wrong way to go that actually just goes into the woods deeper...
@chrisemerson7743
2 жыл бұрын
@@allamericananti-christ666 it would be even easier to kill him at another campsite and then put some distance between them before calling it in!
@joeywhitehouse6011
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives for hunting fishing and hiking I enjoy these stories and appreciate your efforts. I love mysteries and strange experiences but also as an outdoorsman I think it helps keep my ego in check. Anxiety and fear can make the most experienced individuals come unraveled. Thanks
@jackbuendgen389
2 жыл бұрын
There ALWAYS seems like there a fateful mistake. I don't know how I would react but I hope I would: STOP, LOOK, LISTEN, AND SMELL. Hopefully by the time I come to my senses I can get myself out of a situation.
@1JackTorS
2 жыл бұрын
I just recently discovered your channel, and already went through your entire library of videos in less than 24 hours! Excellent content without flash, fanfare or annoying background music. Keep up the great work!
@annjones5201
2 жыл бұрын
me too! This guy/channel is Great!
@carlfrank6698
2 жыл бұрын
The kory Kelly case is odd. This guy sees a grouse 200 yards away at 5:30ish in October. It’s pretty damn near dark at that time and so he goes after it. Did he have a flashlight with him. I’m guessing once he started towards that grouse, his hunting buddy had left and in real short time it was to dark to find his way back camp. If he found the drainage ditch at night he may not be able to tell East and west from the stars. Also his lighter was found way earlier then the location of the fire ashes. Just very odd.
@ultrarnr4454
2 жыл бұрын
No one can spot a grouse 200 yards away, no one!
@danharp7273
2 жыл бұрын
The case is only off to me because of the hunting buddy's actions. Why did he leave the camp site just to get gas? Did they need other supplies from the store and that simply want mentioned in the video? It sounds like he decided that he needed to get gas for the truck and so made a special trip when he could have easily got it the next day when they left. It's strange behavior. I also don't put much faith in the toxicology report. After an entire winter exposed to the elements, I'm not sure the report's conclusions are trust worthy. Could evidence of drug use survive for months in a body left to decompose outside? I also don't think this is a simple case of Kelly getting lost. I don't mean to suggest any conspiracy, but he walked 12 miles before dying. You'd think after 2 miles he's have turned around considering darkness. The route he took want particularly complicated, it was just straight lines. Yes, the area is over grown, but not so bad that he was walking in circles. IMO his judgment was impaired beyond simple hypothermia. No one brings meth with them without the intent to use.
@markjackson3531
2 жыл бұрын
@@danharp7273 The meth and the friends' strange behavior throw up a bunch of red flags. Also, the missing shotgun....
@wiseauserious8750
2 жыл бұрын
@@ultrarnr4454 I was just going to say the same thing
@davidpallin772
2 жыл бұрын
No hunter sees a grouse at two hundred yards at 5:30 pm. on 16 October 2006.
@gf301
2 жыл бұрын
Very good as always, just the facts accurately conveyed. There's certainly some strangeness in both cases but nothing particularly unexplainable,bad choices,poor preparation maybe. Getting lost can be terrifying, especially when you're freezing, must be almost impossible to think straight.
@mariawestman9026
2 жыл бұрын
At 6:31 he tells us that 1/3 gram meth was found with the body. But this guy wasn’t an addict and had no drugs in his body! This is one of the strangest case I heard of !
@WideAwakeHuman
Жыл бұрын
@@mariawestman9026 and his shotgun was never found - I think the guy he was with killed him, stole the gun because it was worth something and planted the meth to make it look like he got high and died not thinking they would do a tox screen and find out he had none in his system. The whole story the guy gave was off to me.
@mariawestman9026
Жыл бұрын
@@WideAwakeHuman yeah it’s very possible. 🌟🙏🌟 thanks for responding to me.
@andrewjack5755
2 жыл бұрын
Paradoxical undress is the biggest scapegoat. Trust me all the homeless dudes outside in -5 aren’t getting naked.
@kaytalk9448
2 жыл бұрын
I often wonder about this?
@happytrails3
2 жыл бұрын
But they have better gear and are fed?
@rokukou
7 ай бұрын
These people are not homeless and usually have not built resistance to frostbite. Repeated exposure to frostbite can make one feel number to the burning sensation that feels hot, and not undress. Paradoxical undressing absolutely happens. It seems more likely to me than bigfoot stripping somebody naked and leaving them there.
@ucantSQ
6 ай бұрын
There may be something else going on, but undressing seems so common in these cases that it can't be attributed to other humans or foul play or anything like that. Faeries? Tree demons? Perhaps an unconscious, symbolic act of dying: Doff your clothes as you prepare to doff your body. We may never know.
@ucantSQ
6 ай бұрын
These people are also without food and water, usually walking over ten miles. It could be hypothermia combined with exhaustion. The homeless people aren't constantly walking in a panic. Ok, maybe some are.
@mn-nf3dd
2 жыл бұрын
I think there is more to the story on Kelly. His friend gets back finds Kelly missing at 7pm and falls asleep until 4am. Doesn't call the cops, someone else does that for him. And if you freeze the report he also packed up the campsite before the cops got there. It was around twelve hours before Kelly was reported missing. Calling him "dumbass"? And the dog is strange. Half starved but vomiting? dehydrated and in a bog?? Labs can find water anywhere. And what was with the meth?? Kelly didn't have it in his system. I have a hard time with the boots looking that good and have been out all winter. Wish you could link the reports so could read them. Thanks, was a really good video.
@happytrails3
2 жыл бұрын
This may have been a lets make it look like we were hunting thing. Boots shouldn't have been in good condition. The drugs wouldn't have stayed in the system after so long. "I told him to go west" and he's later found easterly?
@markjackson3531
2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the friend for a second. i paused and read the transcripts shown in this video, and i believe "James" is full of crap.
@cass-7148
2 жыл бұрын
Everything about this case and Koreys so called friend is a bunch of lies...packing up the campsite o is DEF. sum shady stuff going on...sumthing fishy about the whole story!!!
@GateKeeper36
2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember what case it was but it had to do with a missing hunter. He managed to call his wife and tell her "He feels like he's being followed" if a hunter says that then it's scary cause now he's being hunted.
@toddlinder-flowman6687
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Cullen Finnerty incident
@GateKeeper36
2 жыл бұрын
@@toddlinder-flowman6687 Your probably right👍I listen to so much missing 411 it's hard to remember them all. Have you read any of the books??? I wanna know if watch KZitem videos like this is identical to reading the books.
@lindalumae
2 жыл бұрын
According to some others that were found, they have said they thought they were being hunted. They heard voices and saw strange things. They hid from the searchers, thinking they were trying to hurt them. I think something is causing a temporary psychosis. It’s very interesting to hear the stories of those that were found.
@GateKeeper36
2 жыл бұрын
@@lindalumae I've studied on trees and plant, they can communicate with each other and have defence mechanism. Just my thought on the psychosis part or some tiny unknown parasite that finds a way to embed itself in a random person walking by. I heard of cases, a man jumped off a cliff, a woman began foaming from her mouth going crazy smashing her head against a tree, and other people simply just going insane. That still doesn't explain how others go missing.
@toddlinder-flowman6687
2 жыл бұрын
@@GateKeeper36 I haven’t read the books yet - I plan to at some point. I do watch Paulides’ channel - CanAm Missing Project. He covers many of his missing cases - usually 3 or so each week. For the cases that Have been covered by both channels (Mel Nadel, Aaron Hedges), I find that TME provides more info. In both of those cases, there are some very plausible explanations based on info not included in the canam videos.
@junedussault400
Жыл бұрын
I like his illustrations that are more accurate than stock photos! Makes his story more interesting than it already is!
@beenschmokin
7 ай бұрын
They're all done by AI. He says it in an older video. Still cool additions
@Alexandra_Wolf
2 жыл бұрын
I’m So happy Sammy was found safe.
@cmamsler
Жыл бұрын
Two peoole died in this video. Wtf is wrong with u
@kelblueskies3937
2 жыл бұрын
Yes a mile is a long ways if you are in the middle of the forest or woods.
@ucantSQ
6 ай бұрын
Not if you're panicked
@richardmoore609
Жыл бұрын
Giving an inexperienced person a compass may be worse then not giving them one. If they end up using it near metal it can point in the wrong direction and lead you to your death.
@shalom6813
4 ай бұрын
I knew Kory all his life he was NOT inexperienced.
@pooslinger6839
2 жыл бұрын
It’s really interesting that in many of these cases, the shoes are removed. Pretty creepy. I love your videos man! Keep up the good work😎
@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425
2 жыл бұрын
Like a threshold custom. Take your shoes off before entering🤔 I'm partly just yakking crap but at the same time, it is an interesting thought..
@michaelmignone5869
2 жыл бұрын
And that items like shotguns and rifles just simply vanish without a trace, the most non-perishable item
@planexshifter
2 жыл бұрын
You ever walk miles in wet boots?! Not really surprising people take them off.
@planexshifter
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmignone5869 They are also dark in color and not very large. Just a few inches of grass or mud can easily hide a rifle.
@pooslinger6839
2 жыл бұрын
Actually I have walked many miles in wet boots many many times and I still kept them on because they still offer your feet protection. There are a lot to cases where the persons shoes/ boots were off and in perfect working order for no apparent reason. If I was lost in the woods I would be keeping my boots on because that makes sense. Wet boots are better than no boots when you are lost in the woods lol
@riciaswebb406
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! As you can tell, many of us have been looking forward to another post.
@jamesknapp64
2 жыл бұрын
He has probably the best in depth and thorough videos on these missing person cases. Very well done
@toddlinder-flowman6687
2 жыл бұрын
He is indeed the best. Whenever I come across a missing 411, I immediately come here to find out what actually happened.
@riciaswebb406
2 жыл бұрын
@@toddlinder-flowman6687 Me too. I tend to be very skeptical of the 411 series because it so quickly diverges into conspiracy theories, accusations against the grieving families, and/or "cryptids", etc.
@angelmartin7310
2 жыл бұрын
@@toddlinder-flowman6687 🤣🤣
@angelmartin7310
2 жыл бұрын
@@riciaswebb406 when a 412 case actually is bizarre and seemingly inexplicable he acknowledges it, which is how I know he doesn't have an agenda to dispel the paranormal.
@CwL-1984
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a firm believer in the buddy system, if I go out alone I let some one know where I'm going to be just in case.
@LonersGuide
2 жыл бұрын
You are doing a service to the subject matter, sir. Thank you.
@paulcollins6732
2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos & there's always a sense of occasion to the release of a new one! Thanks! 😊
@andrewrobertson3894
2 жыл бұрын
Those photo's remind me that even during daylight hours, forests are often such eerie, foreboding places to be alone in. Also, searchers failing to locate a body in tall grass, despite having previously been only feet away from it on a previous search has happened before. I think it was the story where a psychic remotely viewed the location of another missing person.
@kygreenskeeper8326
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Been waiting on your next video... Thank you .
@Duarte332
2 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING. I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER! I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD UPLOAD MORE OFTEN. PLEASE GIVE US MORE!!!
@SoupyOatmeal
2 жыл бұрын
I find your analysis of the " missing " people that some vlogs paint in a mysterious light very refreshing. Your attention to detail does take a lot of the weirdness out of these stories. That being said there are plenty of other incidents that leave me wondering how TF did that happen. It could be there is more human crime in winderness areas than we are led to believe. My answer has always been groops of at least 3 and no seperation.
@dianauwu1312
Жыл бұрын
"human crime" implies the existence of non-human crime, and now I'm wondering who's going to arrest bigfoot for all the hikers they murdered
@randygunn9499
2 жыл бұрын
Sad to see of our young ones perish so close to rescue. That cold is a nasty thing,it killed my brother and he was in a vehicle. I miss him very much.
@joshuaconstable6323
2 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss, praying for you and your family. I hope you can or have found peace. God bless you, i love you! ❤️
@LITMOVIESCENES
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your brother..was he murdered? dayton ohio?
@cass-7148
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@randygunn9499
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaconstable6323 thank you.
@randygunn9499
2 жыл бұрын
@@LITMOVIESCENES no. He was drunk.fell asleep.
@The_Defiant_One
2 жыл бұрын
Who goes hunting on an empty tank? That part didn't make sense.
@pembrokelove
2 жыл бұрын
I’m always so pleased when you post a new video!
@dianewright5575
2 жыл бұрын
Aww.. it's so hard knowing they were SO CLOSE & yet SO FAR!!! So painful to watch these. And yet I'm drawn to them in hopes of 1 day being able to HELP bring 1 home. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Truthisscarierthanfiction
2 жыл бұрын
Please never change the intro music, it fits your voice and channel theme perfectly. Great video!
@palehorse6250
Жыл бұрын
Teach your friends HOW to use the compass, some people have no idea. This poor kid clearly got totally turned around. Had he been taught that singular basic survival skill, and in the absence of mind altering pain killers, he would have made it back. What a tragic story. I feel for him in his last suffering moments, lost and confused.
@ftf1987
3 ай бұрын
Growing up my dad would always ask "Which direction to get out?" when out in any wilderness. I do the same with my kids because it's absolutely ridiculous how unaware my wife (getting better) and other adults often are. Developing an internal compass by paying attention to your surroundings is a huge advantage. It's more instinctive if you're solo or running point, so if you're mid stack or tail end...keep your eyes up and on a swivel.
@JAKE.PARKER
6 ай бұрын
To see a grouse at 200yards dude must have had eagle eyes!!!!!!
@kirkjones9639
2 жыл бұрын
The best compass for outdoors is a Cammenga 3h. Just adjust if for magnetic deviation. Served me well in Nam, Andes, Himalayas, Cascades, Rockies etc. Just make sure of the manufactured date, as the Tritium only lasts 20 years.
@hamishford5486
8 ай бұрын
I've been lost and I've got to say that the panic superseded all rationality. It was nothing but pure luck that enabled me to finally walk in the right direction, coming out of the thick bush miles away from where I had entered.
@m118lr
2 жыл бұрын
Makes ZERO sense just “going after A GROUSE 200 YARDS(!?) AWAY”. That alone is TOO weird. Then, WHY does someone ‘need’ to leave just to ‘go get gas”..just to come right back..and camp?
@Mitchel141
2 жыл бұрын
because when your hunting in the backwoods especially grouse hunting your driving different areas, outside your camp spot. you get out walk them drive a few more miles, then at tge end of the day you go back to your camp site. mist have Jerry's in the truck but they run out too lol eventually you gotta due a run into the closest town to fill up
@WalkingScriptureWithShanna
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Two and a half years ago, we moved from the suburbs of Philadelphia to a back mountain in SW New Hampshire. 6 of our acres is up a steep ridge. It’s scary how fast you can get turned around and off trail. Thankfully, the times I’ve felt lost in the woods has only been in my backyard, and to head east either brings you to my house or the road, but I know how fast your fight or flight kicks in and you have to choose to panic or plan.
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
2 жыл бұрын
From tge Swedish Army survival manual *S.T.O.P.* • Stay • Think • Orient • Plan Very easy to follow.
@travisn346
2 жыл бұрын
Fear overrides logical thinking and the prefrontal cortex shuts down. That's what happens to so many of these missing people.
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
2 жыл бұрын
@@travisn346 thats why parents should drill it into their children. Just like stranger danger.
@jordanpowell228
2 жыл бұрын
My man ive been waiting for an upload from you. My favorite for this type of content
@saltshakerstudio2190
2 жыл бұрын
When he called his friend a dumbass i think he just mean he just said out of frustration or possibly from being tired due to how long his search lasted.
@13donstalos
5 ай бұрын
Yeah and because he wandered off like a dummy
@DonnyKarr
2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that LEOs found a 1/3 gram of meth on Kelly’s trail? It seems like this opens up a huge amount of possibilities as to what happened. Plus, his friend having to supposedly leave camp and go get gas in the middle of the evening is extremely strange to me. Why not just get gas on the drive out? A lot doesn’t make any sense with this, but I get the feeling Kelly’s fate has something to do with that 1/3 gram of meth found in the chapstick container. Great work on the videos, as always!
@jerrymoore838
2 жыл бұрын
Going for gas seemed odd to me as well
@Dollsteak69
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Spending a lot of time in rural Colorado that substance makes people lose their mind.
@chrisemerson7743
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dollsteak69 people lose their mind or go ape shit has more to do with the lack of sleep than the drug itself. What I mean is that people u read about doing insane stuff or acting up when on meth is because they’ve been up for days.
@archuleta7524
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisemerson7743 🤣 sure, it's not the rat poison and other toxic ingredients.... 🙄
@chrisemerson7743
2 жыл бұрын
@@archuleta7524 Rat poison? Ur thinking about LSD! This is a prime example of people talking about stuff they don’t know shit about!
@miraclep5087
2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for you to upload. Thank you for this.
@BarelyDecentProduction
2 жыл бұрын
That's kinda grimm they named the trail he died on after him
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that too. Maybe to keep people aware when on the trail?
@h.boylen6334
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, like no thanks to hiking the marshy trail named after the dude who died walking it.
@racheljones5897
2 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video!!! I couldn’t wait much longer
@Anonymous38572
2 жыл бұрын
Favorite missing persons channel, hands down. Love when u upload
@tommy2pieceya734
5 ай бұрын
Corey Kelly, the boots they found of his, were in near mint condition, think about that for a second... After all that time and the area in which they were in, what he would have to walk through and the wear and tear, those boots would have to endure, from the weather and all the elements to the swamp and the mud and they're in literal perfect condition, while everything else of his, is unrecognizable, even himself, I mean, are you kidding me... I can guarantee you, just from that alone, something extremely strange happened.
@macbeavers6938
Жыл бұрын
Nice video as usual. Jacob looks like such a sweet boy. His parents must be devastated!
@J40JesusIsLord
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, nothing particularly mysterious about these cases once you have all the facts. One thing to learn for sure, if you are lost and have means of making a fire-stop and make one immediately, don't wait! It will help you stay warm and might draw rescuers to your position.
@JMazzaTaz
Жыл бұрын
I have 2 points to make about Cory Kelly: 1. It’s probably safe to assume that the meth found by the search team was NOT Cory’s, as he had nothing in his system. And 2….. Apparently, Cory didn’t truly know how to read a compass. That may sound crazy, but there really are people like that and they’re probably too embarrassed to admit it. Unfortunately, this time it cost a man his life
@sushmac1383
Жыл бұрын
I agree with the second point and thought of the same. I'm one of them who doesn't know how to read a compass and to embarassed to admit it
@coleycole2381
Жыл бұрын
@@sushmac1383 in this day and age thats not surprising but a super easy fix, google or you tube bud. Most these people would be alive if they knew the sun sets west.
@PrimevalDemon
Жыл бұрын
I hope you never change the bgm you utilize in your videos, it's very nostalgic/ sentimental in a way I can't describe properly
@Klvnchz
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. Post more frequently…..
@northernsky6117
2 жыл бұрын
Reading about these disapperances as a hunter and outdoors person always amazes me. Anything can happen ofcourse. I have hunted alone with my dog in the vast parts of my country where there is only miles of forestland. No trails or roads only few cabins. I never have seen anything unusual. Today there is many gps available etc. To help if one gets lost.
@Baki_B
2 жыл бұрын
Just the type of content I was looking for
@jerrymoore838
2 жыл бұрын
You did a respectful and excellent job. Thank you for your work
@HUKIT.
2 жыл бұрын
He saw a 10” upland bird at 200yrds huh. I wish I had superpowers…
@thewhizbang
Жыл бұрын
I lived in Elko NV for year, the Ruby Mountains are SOOO beautiful….but the whole trail is around 60 miles with stretches of 10-14 miles with no water source… a handful of mountain lakes with plenty of fish that dot the first 10ish miles…still a rough mountain range…couldn’t imagine getting lost up there
@LTJC70
Жыл бұрын
maybe it's just me but I find it kinda odd that his friend, outta the blue, decides to go back to town cause he felt like he was low on gas in his truck... what??!! I don't understand that at all!! does anyone else find that weird??
@distilledfreedom1840
Жыл бұрын
Holy moly. That country is so wild, just the height of the grasses and brush. Terrifying if lost.
@Gen-X_Dirtbag
2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh I've missed you!! Thank you, thank you 🤩
@Jinka1950
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation, great voice tone narration, thank you.
@TimeForDunston
2 жыл бұрын
It’s so easy to get lost in the wilderness… and it’s almost impossible to be found.
@stevekulbacki5238
Жыл бұрын
Have you studied the disappearance of Hugh Armstrong? Somehow, he fell down and hit his head in northern New Hampshire, then showed up near his home in North Carolina over a week later. He had some amnesia but knew he needed to get to North Carolina. The only reason I am interested in this story is that the NH. Game Warden in charge of the search seemed like he was holding back what he really thinks about this story when interviewed by the media.
@elonever.2.071
11 ай бұрын
I looked it up and something is not right about the case. First if he fell and hit his head on the path why didnt his wife find him? Second he had no idea who he was yet he stayed at cheap hotels. What did he use to pay for the hotel? If he had cash why no ID? No credit card?
@Atzenbronko-ch3br
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Sir for your incrediable good research
@littlefox2324
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up here - not sure ppl understand how vast northern Minnesota is. The vast swampy/boggy ground in these old swamps. Great grouse hunting for sure but man, you gotta know where you are- it all looks the same when you’re in there. And there’s no “moss on the north side” shit there- there is no moss. And it’s cloudy all the time, w/o a compass you sometimes cannot find the sun. Northern Minnesota is not only thickly wooded but has tamarack peat bogs that swallow shit up. I grew up 20 miles from where this young man disappeared from, may he Rest In Peace
@fcktheonlythingmissingisu3792
2 жыл бұрын
littlefox, how the heck did he spot a grouse 200yds. away? Superhero eyesight?
@littlefox2324
2 жыл бұрын
@@fcktheonlythingmissingisu3792 good question- my favorite game was grouse and I was lucky to spot them 30 yards away… ? 30 ft was more like it at dusk when they were moving from feeding to roosting. Always found them in the thickest part of the timber, very well hidden with low hanging boughs you can’t get thru.
@cleanerben9636
2 жыл бұрын
These videos just make me want to go hiking and see what it's like. Carefully of course nothing too fancy here in England. It's perplexing to me how slow people are. I can walk the 2 miles to work in about 30 minutes. I guess the terrain is a lot harsher.
@bigpicturethinking5620
2 жыл бұрын
If you like the outdoors hiking is incredible. Some people move slow purposefully as they treat hikes like explorations or just like to look around and take it easy.
@skullfalker
2 жыл бұрын
Walk 2 miles through the Canadian wilderness then let me know how quickly you travel.
@houseofsolomon2440
2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Minnesota & am familiar with the Red Lake wildlife mgmt area. There's an old fire tower (Faunce) not that far from where Corey was found. The area is full of drainage ditches dug by dredges back in early 1900's - Glad his family could get some closure & R.I.P. --
@conqueringlion420
2 жыл бұрын
The shedding of clothes is always strange
@BradenBest1
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely have found my new favorite KZitem channel
@tessfabled4115
2 жыл бұрын
Was there water near where Jacob was heading? When lost, us on the spectrum are often drawn to water for some reason.
@Strype13
3 ай бұрын
Who the hell makes it to their campsite... then (after a mere couple of hours) randomly decides "Yo, Kory! Now that camp is up and we're all set to relax... you know what I need? Gas! So, I'm gonna run into town and get some. I'll be right back, in time for dinner!" That's pretty weird, right? Why wouldn't they just get gas when leaving the campsite? It would've made a lot more sense had he said, "Listen, Kory. I'm suffering from an uncontrollable craving for pork rinds and anchovies. Gonna hit town real quick bro, I'll be right back!" ...But, gas? That's befuddling me.
@PatriciaCook-p1j
2 ай бұрын
I said the exact same thing!!! Doesn’t make sense.
@catwell88
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so the dog died? It wasn’t clear, I’m assuming so because of the stomach content test.
@simongillaspie5724
2 жыл бұрын
No he lived they tested his poop
@dfuher968
Жыл бұрын
A dead dog was found, but couldnt be identified as the lab, coz it had been skinned (I really really dont want to think about, what kind of disgusting excuse for a human would do that!), but the lab was later found alive, so the dead dog was unrelated.
@DieselSgrass
Жыл бұрын
As for the second story. Jacob was in an area where night time temps on dates leading up to July 30, as some think were the days he may have passed, dropped to maybe 50 degrees. Some nights it only dropped to 66 - 70. Records are available. Guessing deprivation of water and food. Hot as 100 during the day. Sad as hell.
@jbearmike9678
2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos dude...thank you
@toddlinder-flowman6687
2 жыл бұрын
Thrilled to see a new one!!!!
@mhauser9457
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like Kory Kelly wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed
@lisabunnie22960
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. My day has been made better. Thank you.
@MidnightVentures
2 жыл бұрын
It seems like it's so hard to find these missing people depsite the choppers and manpowrr and dogs. I think in most cases the areas the police search in is not vast enough. These people travel miles in desperation before finally succumbing to the elements and hypothermia. The areas searched need to be even larger than they are.
@aprils6154
2 жыл бұрын
I had no problem ordering David palides books, he is great !!
@warpug9340
2 жыл бұрын
Your good at what you do, follow your path and hope your successful in keeping your channel going👍
@mr.onethirtyeight5088
2 жыл бұрын
Well this is a completely new account of this case! This channel is the freakin' best.
@niansxsa
2 жыл бұрын
3am in ph too early but a perfect time to watch these stuff
@theamericanhiker9655
2 жыл бұрын
I think your channel fills so many gaps that David P channel leaves out. Keep it up man. Amazing work
@karenleo2142
2 жыл бұрын
Well done on these two topics. You researched very well and both stories are very interesting. Keep going mate you're on a roll!
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