My “two up” story involved taking my new wife to the Blue Ridge Parkway. An hour or so into the mountainous section of North Carolina she motioned she wanted to stop, being a lover of mountain vistas I sailed into the next turn off and up to the curb of the overlook, flipped out the side stand, and before I could even rest the bike on the stand, she was off the bike and on her hands and knees crawling toward the wall of the mountain 🤔. Unbeknownst to me, she was afraid of heights 😱! It took me 45 minutes to get her back on the bike 😆. It all worked out well though. We completed the parkway before heading home, and 36 years later we’re still married 😉.
@leoneyedis2671
3 жыл бұрын
That is such a fun and beautiful ride. Very good choice of ride though.
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
@Dan-56
3 жыл бұрын
@@fs3994; We certainly do ! Together two up on an “adventure bike”, and individually on smaller lighter bikes 😃🏍🏍🏍👍.
@marsipio1733
3 жыл бұрын
Spurgeon's instant regret of how he worded Zacks "first time" 🤣 I love the banter between these guys 😄
@bugzapper1541
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the name drop, Spurge at 02:12
@JMartinsATV
3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Ahah
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@Skiliq
3 жыл бұрын
Zack, I think the reason I do stops where ever possible without putting my feet down as much as possible is from watching your ride videos.
@kawabungah20
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys! This "two up" discussion is all good advice and, I might add, advice that cannot be shared enough among us motorcyclists. Your stories caused me to reminisce about my own pillion experiences going back to 1970 when I first started carrying passengers. I think a most interesting experience was when I gave my sister-in-law (who is an accomplished equestrian and competition horse rider) a ride on my big touring bike. On that ride, I learned what her mount must experience as she straddles her horse. I was amazed that every directional change I made during the ride was inadvertently telegraphed to me as my passenger subconsciously signalled the turns using her legs, squeezing my hips as our ride progressed. I learned what it must feel like to be a show horse in an arena during a riding competition! After the ride, I asked her about it and learned she wasn't even aware of doing it. That's another form of "motor memory." Thanks for another great HSLS!
@Bmichaels679
3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day to me! All I wanted in all the world was a HSLS t-shirt and the kids got me one! And get this, revzilla messed up and sent me two! I secretly think the second one is really a prize because I am a loyal listener. Anyway, my daughter claimed it, so no send backs!
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like she deserves it! Enjoy it, Dad!
@C64SX
3 жыл бұрын
Bugs? Wet towel/cloth/similar, drape it over the visor/screen and let it sit for 10-15 minutes. Special store bought solutions aren't necessary unless you are in a real hurry :)
@Baleur
3 жыл бұрын
Towel ruined for the rest of your life.
@ChristopherT_
Жыл бұрын
@@Baleur you can get micro fiber cloths in bulk for cheap :)
@Otto45
3 жыл бұрын
Usually just listen to this podcast while i'm out on the highway on my bike. Learned so much over the years from these guys. Thanks alot for all the hardwork fellas, keep bringing more!!
@adventurewithalex3707
3 жыл бұрын
Saturday evening sorted 😂
@dmaxcustom
3 жыл бұрын
When I had my Rocket 3, I took a girl out on a motorcycle ride. Good thing about the Rocket, is that a 60 kilos girl can do whatever on the back and the bike does not care. And I was being all nice driving kinda slow and she was egging me to go faster. So I did. I warned her: "Hold tight", and the Rocket is very on/off when you twist the throttle. She asked me "not to do that again".
@silv3rArrow
3 жыл бұрын
Instead of "don't do that again" I get a couple of slaps on the shoulder when I start going over the speed limit. It's like a speed limiter ahah
@motojunkie8348
3 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the time I was 14 and rode my KX 80 big wheel to my friends house and picked him up along with a case of beer he had stole from his parents. 2 kids riding a little dirt bike full speed down the street while the rear passenger holds onto a case of beer like his life depended on it.
@absolutelysobeast
3 жыл бұрын
Dude it looks like spurg has lost considerable weight. It could just be the camera, but usually they say “the camera adds 10 pounds” not “the camera removes 50 plus pounds”
@theprodigalstranger5259
3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly fine to have a podcast with just Zack and Spurg but anyone else think Lance would have some amazing stories to add here? I live in NJ and I want to be one of Spurgs buds lol. Lets get a RC going call it B.O.S. Buds of Spurg! Spot on Zack "if done properly" are the key words in lane splitting/filtering and there are a host of videos out there that show what can happen when it is not done properly. The other hurdle to is driver/rider education. Drivers need to be made fully aware that this is now legal and they must allow riders to split/filter even if they do not agree with it. If a driver interferes or accosts a rider spitting/filtering the penalty should be severe, as should the penalty for a rider not splitting/filtering legally. For those who say its too dangerous under any circumstance please understand that no one is making you split/filter, just because you can does not follow that you must. For instance, its legal to smoke weed here in NJ but Im not rolling dubes and toking up, I can but I am choosing not to. Holy Crap Im an Uncle Bob! I dont think any mom is really cool with her kids on motorcycles. Good show lads, see you next cast!
@dbwgoblue74
3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. I haven't ridden in years, bought an MT-03 last year to get my legs back, and my wife already wants to jump on back. I'll make sure this video is part of my "training program" once I've got something big enough for us to enjoy together. The last time we rode anything on two wheels together was when I rented a scooter on our honeymoon in Key West for a night, which was about 13 years ago lol.
@raylewis3355
3 жыл бұрын
No crazy uncle but two older brother inlaws that took me to the motorcycle street drags. 40 years later still riding. The two up conversation hit home in every scenario
@cpuuk
3 жыл бұрын
Spurg has beautiful eyes and Zack has a lovely smile... do I get a T-shirt?
@floydian25
3 жыл бұрын
Joe has a nice beard. Tshirt please 🥺
@vikingplumber9541
3 жыл бұрын
No T-Shirt for you, unless you comment on ITunes...
@TheClarkenstein
3 жыл бұрын
Took my better half down the road to a local farm to check out what they had out at the stand. Nice one-and-a-half mile ride, except the speed limit is 45 mph (which in NJ means 60 mph). There’s a nice S turn before the stand. I took it slow (40) ignoring the impatient car behind me. This is the first time she has been on the bike going over 25 mph. When I heard “oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit” I knew at that moment 40 was still too fast and cruising around the block at 25 is where we are going to stay for a while.
@temptingfate759
3 жыл бұрын
Are you guys going to bring back Ari as part of the High Side Low Side?
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
You'll probably enjoy the next episode of Season 4.... Releasing this weekend....
@AndrewWilsonOz
3 жыл бұрын
Low speed lane filtering is great. It's much safer moving to the front of traffic, and lessening the risk of being rear-ended. + It's much faster than being stuck in traffic.
@tuanoful
3 жыл бұрын
I own a VStrom, it's good for a loaded 2up. The bad part is the suspension, but for street that's not an issue most of the time. But for that price, that bike is a mule that gets the job done. I've also ridden 1200gs and... I love it, I'm just too poor to have one. That one was REALLY comfortable for both, and had PLENTY of power that my Strom doesn't have. PS: I ride with the wife, loaded with luggage and, sometimes, the dog. To travel around the country we currently live in (MX) PSS: I changed the dogbones or whatever those are called, so it is higher from the ground. And with the Anakee ADV tires, I feel really confident.
@IngloriousJesse
3 жыл бұрын
Great topic and great tips! I just started riding 2 up with my girlfriend and it's been awesome to share the experience with her. Keep up the great work guys!
@sanxi34
3 жыл бұрын
My two-up story is, don't ride with a passenger that is carrying a long backpack when your exhaust is under the seat... I have an FZ6 S2 (twin exhaust under the seat) and a friend was carrying a backpack... Well... To our surprise, when she was sitting upright, the exhaust gas was close enough to the backpack to melt the whole bottom!! Thankfully, it wasn't a long drive and we weren't stuck in traffic so we didn't lose anything. But separating melted plastic from hot house-keys is not the easiest hahahahah PS; for me, I know that I have impressed a passenger when they tell me "wow!! You are a very smooth driver / rider"
@PovilasPanavas
2 жыл бұрын
This was both so entertaining and informative! :D thanks!
@boilerkim1530
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we need a CTXP episode of Spurge getting that ride with Randy Mamola
@Jagknorr
3 жыл бұрын
Had to ride on the back of my uncles bike to go pick up my new bike. That was a new experience and then the sport bike i got was also a new experience :D
@ericellis4573
3 жыл бұрын
Electric motorcycles are a weird niche that will be difficult to make work outside of a city context until something changes. RyanF9 broke it down pretty well in one of his recent vids.
@floydian25
3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Zack's post on Instagram saying he got married and I felt super happy for him. Then the wheelie picture brought the memory back
@beanwithbaconmegarocket
3 жыл бұрын
Utah lane splitting is pretty good since you can filter to the front of the queue at red lights as long as the speed limit on the road is 45 or below. Makes riding on surface streets way nicer. But it's a no-go on the highway. I got pulled over for lane splitting through a traffic jam on a 65 mpg state highway on a hot day. At least he let me off with a warning.
@chrism5705
3 жыл бұрын
Another fun show, even without guests! Lane splitting should be legal everywhere. Without lane splitting, I have no reason to commuteon a bike. Here in NY I consider any tickets part of the cost of riding. One of my fond riding memories is splitting lanes leaving LA, on the way to Monterey for the Moto America round at Laguna Seca, 2 summers ago, following a CHP officer. It felt awesome! You made me dig up Lee Parks books! A bit more technical info on riding 2 up might have been helpful. Yes, the bike will accelerate, brake and corner differently, but no discussion of preload adjustments or any other ways to mitigate the additional weight. Enjoyed the banter while working.
@wanderingturtleadventures8619
3 жыл бұрын
This podcast is so damn good. I wasn’t really into the subject today since I never ride 2 up but still fully entertained throughout the episode as usual. You guys are awesome !
@slartybatfast5426
2 жыл бұрын
I had a pretty good strategy for helping ladies know the rules of being a passenger (before I got married, grand total of 3 including my now wife) Id dance with them waltz style on the side of the road like an idiot. Fallow my body when I move, I lean, you lean etc. Stay on until its stopped and try not to wiggle to much or we'll crash. Good ol 2007 triumph bonnie was a great bike for the time I had it. Great episode, you guys are always fun
@Hondatech26
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs a slightly irresponsible uncle Bob lol
@debdettman4810
3 жыл бұрын
I have only done lane splitting in London, on a rented bike. I found it scary at first but when I saw that the drivers actually understood and seemed to really accept it, it was wonderful and definitely safer than being a bike in Friday afternoon rush hour. I live in Chicago now and it would take A LOT of cultural change to make Chicago drivers happy to just scoot their cars over so people can ride through.
@matthewdalpe9889
3 жыл бұрын
Love listening to you guys.... normally listening to the pod cast while I’m riding 😂
@9192sanchez
3 жыл бұрын
LANE SPLITTING LANE SPLITTING!! 😆
@markowsley4954
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the bug covered helmet made me think of the 70's era Gumball Rally. One of the characters was racing across the country riding a Kawasaki two stroke triple and became covered with bugs and chicken feathers.
@jakaberdajs4378
3 жыл бұрын
Im with zack on the Terra. Awesome bike, made mine into sort of an ADV Supermoto, kinda like the SWM SuperDual T. Fun all arround.
@abhaschandrakumar
3 жыл бұрын
Listening to this late at night on my bed and I am missing my bike a lot. I have been away from my bike due to pandemic for last 5 months.
@vytas5584
3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Next dog walk entertainment sorted
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
That's one lucky dog if he's getting an hour and a half walk out of this!
@Jason.W.
3 жыл бұрын
I feel lane split should not happen in traffic above 20mph and rider cannot ride faster than 40mph for braking distance. And any accident is rider’s responsibility. It’d be good to allow “lane split” on right side (in single file only), almost like city bike lanes, so drivers are not bothered by a running engine with Doppler effect while getting stressed sitting in traffic, or if the riders tend to rev if they feel there’s no gap.
@Krydolph
3 жыл бұрын
Lanesplitting isn't as universally legal in europe as most americans seems to think. Though it is in countries like France and Italy, it is not in Germany. I live in Denmark, and it is not legal here either, you have to ALWAYS pass on the left, and if you lane split, you are passing someone on the right. In the left most lane, you are allowed to pass and share the lane while doing it if there is room for it however.
@_shreyash_anand
3 жыл бұрын
I find this conversation fascinating, because I never found riding a bike with a passenger troublesome at all. Slightly different, yes, but not at all difficult or anything. Didn't feel any more dangerous or anything. But it may also have something to do with me riding around with my brother on the back and vice versa of a bicycle as 5 and 8 year olds, and that I live in India and bikes are a part of every household and very commonplace.
@johnpagejr.7628
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! Great information on tiding two up.
@dbwgoblue74
3 жыл бұрын
I know most people would choose a KTM Duke 390 over the Yamaha MT-03, but I swung a leg over both and found the Duke seat to be a bit higher (at least in my mind) and much less comfortable, and the foot and body position a bit agressive for my taste. About a week later I took the MT-03 for a test ride and bought it that day.
@ridered300
3 жыл бұрын
My first ride as a passenger, and before riding on my own as well, was on the back of my friend's dirtbike. We were like 13-14 and going over to another friend's house, he had a TTR 125 or something like that. No passenger pegs, small seat, definitely not meant for a passenger. I could feel my shoes hitting the chain and was worried about my pants getting into the sprocket, worried about slipping off the back, plus he was riding pretty fast on a rough trail. I about pissed myself before I told him to slow down.
@tomryner5830
6 ай бұрын
I’m having the rear shocks changed on my Speed Twin because giving rides. It is seriously strange when a passenger starts moving about as it is now. The originals does have preload adjustment but is a bitch to adjust. I want as much adjustment as possible so Öhlins will be fitted. Why Öhlins? I’m Swedish and so are they.
@JH_182
3 жыл бұрын
Breaking that foot peg off really got to Spurge….he’s looking thin!
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
Breaking a foot peg off is a real reality check …
@henrikforsberg683
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Hutchie2112
3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm, a passenger who wants to sit backwards to take photographs of the twisty highland b road definitely makes a bike handle in such a way that the laws of the universe cannot cope, and the passenger must succumb to gravity. (Sorry Gordon, but you wanted to!) :)
@hokogan
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure it’s been said, but there was a KL600 prior to the KLR650.
@JP6961
3 жыл бұрын
I live in Sydney. We now are allowed to lane split. It has made getting through traffic easier and safer for me. I get in front of the tin heads and away.
@vincenstuff
3 жыл бұрын
May I add... use the right bike. Kawasaki Concours (C1000) is a great two-up machine, and we loved it while we were moving. But me being 5'6" and 140 lb... Let's just say the trips are a lot smoother on the F800GT
@sravans4839
3 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting perspective. For people from Asia, especially, south & south east, motorcycles are a very primary form of transportation. In these areas, people learn to ride with an experienced rider sitting as a passenger and instructing them what is good and what is not. Taking a passenger is a necessary skill in these parts of the world. Yeah, mostly these are 100cc - 300cc light weight bikes and not super fast for western standards. Most of my saddle time, I had a passenger or I sit as a pillion. Its usually 2 friends sharing a motorcycle - splitting gas bills and so on. Going to trips? motorcycles two up. School? Two up. Hitchhikers? Yes sir! :) Different worlds
@georgeferguson9779
Жыл бұрын
I don't think lane splitting is something people should be doing. ..............Due to something going on down the road (accident, broke down vehicle, etc) the traffic on a major highway has come to a stop. A truck driver sitting in the traffic sees an issue with something on his truck/trailer. He looks in his mirror to make sure nothing is coming (lane splitters). Nothing is coming at that instance. Then, he opens his door to step out of his truck. In the mean time, a lane splitter pulls out from behind the trucker's cargo trailer and runs into the trucker's open door that is opening just as he gets to that point, and dies from injuries he suffered in the impact. That truck driver will live the rest of his life trying to figure out what he could have done for that situation to have never happened.
@silv3rArrow
3 жыл бұрын
From the different bikes I tried my usual passenger swears by ADVs with a cushioned top case. Leg room, back is supported and straight. I fully agree except for my desire to get a naked eheh
@briancox8422
3 жыл бұрын
THE KLR600 is absolutely real. 1984-1985 It happened.
@pistonburner6448
3 жыл бұрын
1984-1986. I believe that in some countries up to 1990 even.
@Jon1998109
3 жыл бұрын
great episode guys thank you !
@stevenbonnesen5988
3 жыл бұрын
... nope.. no bugs here in Kansas... ...now if you're talking flying fortresses.. yes we can talk...
@Mytwistedvoices
3 жыл бұрын
Cicada season in Ohio, Harley has excellent products for bugs. They have a polish that keeps bugs from sticking to your helmet or motorcycle. Just like Teflon in a can!
@anything732
3 жыл бұрын
I need more Zack and Ari.... Thumbnail brought me here... Plz
@silv3rArrow
3 жыл бұрын
43:20 I tried explaining that breaking for a corner and doing manual rev-matching was highly rewarding only to have a confused face as a reaction
@lukeberndt1144
3 жыл бұрын
What used motorcycles (besides a 2nd gen Versys 650 for $3k lol) would you recommend for someone looking to get off a metric cruiser (2007 shadow 1100) and on to a standard/naked/ potentially ADV bike? I don’t like the ergos, handling, or twin carburetors. For reference, I’m 6’ and 210 lbs with a 31” inseam. Do I get a T-shirt if I say that the versys 650 could whoop a VFR800 in the twisties? But really, I’d appreciate some conversation on the podcast about switching from cruisers to other riding styles and what bikes to look at. Thank you guys!
@lawsontracey
3 жыл бұрын
Love this show, I've watched every episode. My only complaint is that they talk about specific motorcycles but since I am so new to biking, I have no idea what the motorcycle looks like. So, maybe add some graphics of the bikes in the videos.
@thevfrtourist3886
3 жыл бұрын
My uncle Bob has a 82 cb650 but it was my cousin and his dirt bike that I was a passenger on first.
@Whitejesselink
3 жыл бұрын
Lol that first time on public roads on a motorcycle is fun.
@JDG119
3 жыл бұрын
Great Podcast!
@FCT8306onTwoWheels
3 жыл бұрын
Picked up a fine young lady after I stopped and waited behind a yellow cab in the city. Was the third week into motorcycling on my 250cc Taiwanese Rebel cruiser
@twowheeledgator1364
3 жыл бұрын
1. I want to ride backwards when Zack wheelies. 2. My wife hated being a passenger because she was bored. After 20 years of riding Bi……, er, passenger she did her MSF and now operates our Bonne SE and wants to ride all the time.
@Skiliq
3 жыл бұрын
Once the passenger is on the back of the bike, the shifts and braking that felt so smooth solo, no longer feel so smooth. So how many helmet vs helmet hits are tolerable before you need to replace the helmet?
@LTVoyager
3 жыл бұрын
Cheaper to learn how to shift and brake competently.
@yuriteixeira5816
2 жыл бұрын
Holy bejesus I won and only realized today! Also, it's pronounced Tay-shae-ra, Teixeira , the x makes a sh sound in that placement
@dunkk2438
3 жыл бұрын
Lane splitting is not allowed here in Germany 😢 Can’t say for the rest of Europe though…
@yevgeniykhakhaev9788
3 жыл бұрын
My best Two-up story: When I was on a bike tour in the Alps, we had one pair in the group in their 60s. They rode up the Stelvio Pass 2-up, on a Harley. Did I mention that he had a peg-leg?
@wlaad100
3 жыл бұрын
I ride so smooth, my girlfriend sleeps through half of the trip. I had to tie her up to the top case few times so she wouldn't fall to the side
@Valks-22
3 жыл бұрын
AH! So mine's not the only one! She fell asleep on some rather fun coastline twistied (30-40mph). No knee down bs of course but I just felt the pressure since she leaned on me and asked what what going on... asleep like a baby
@danegaffney
3 жыл бұрын
Spurgeon, looking sharp.
@Baleur
3 жыл бұрын
Worrying about electric bikes in terms of a necessity for avoiding climate change, is like worrying about a mosquito in the scale of an entire planet... The amount of CO2 that the emissions from sportsbikes or harley davidsons emit, compared with cars and trucks and coal power plants and airplanes, is less than nothing.. Literally would make zero difference to the global climate. Which is why the strict EU rules on motorcycle catalysts are so stupid. Because it literally doesnt change the global climate at all, it is physically impossible, there simply isnt enough VOLUME of greenhouse gases coming FROM motorcycles for anything you do to make any change in the global atmosphere. It's cars, trucks and coal power plants that change the atmosphere enough to be noticeable. Not motorcycles. Even if every motorcycle on the planet suddenly changed to electric, we'd notice ZERO improvement.. And even if the entire world was fully renewably electric, and motorcycles STILL used petrol worldwide, we'd again notice ZERO change in global warming. Motorcycles are nothing in the global scheme of CO2 emissions. It's just annoying to hear people talk based on political correctness rather than science. They dont bother doing the math, they just speak out of ideology. "This is RIGHT to do". No, it isnt, if it literally has nothing to do with your objective, in terms of science and facts.
@zackarybrown6752
3 жыл бұрын
I think the people who ride who think lane splitting is dangerous probably ride big touring bikes or Harley's. I know I was very uncomfortable doing it in my Vulcan 900 because it was so big and bad at low speeds.
@josephlemons
3 жыл бұрын
When are you guys going back to the in office format?
@robertadams4415
3 жыл бұрын
Do you remember the motorcycle taxis in London
@rocketrollsvlogs7625
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a motorcycle riding uncle Bob, but uncle Donald taught me all kinds of fun stuff. There was a KLR 600.
@nealsteik9408
3 жыл бұрын
I had a Honda SL350 with a sissy bar (this was in the early 70's) and when giving my girlfriend a ride for the first time, we were going around a corner when she decided to lean, but the wrong way. I stopped the bike (after almost going down) and said "You put your back against the sissy bar and you DON'T MOVE!" She shortly thereafter decided to get her own license.
@rossa7215
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the lane splitting comments, but you can’t ignore that a piece of this is chicken/egg. In Calif, motorcyclists have done it for decades so drivers have an awareness-or should-that there could be a motorcycle coming up between the lanes. In other states however, that awareness is not present and that poses a big risk to the rider.
@TheLaughingMan42
3 жыл бұрын
Tera 650s are great when they work!
@riggidybang
3 жыл бұрын
What did I like about this episode? I don't remember.
@skylerlovell1780
3 жыл бұрын
What's up guys. Unfortunately, despite very good bipartisan support and great statistical evidence for the safety of proper lane splitting, Governor Brown vetoed this bill in May. It was a "baby step" bill and was only to allow lane splitting on highways with a posted speed limit of 55 or greater and at least 4 lanes when traffic was reduced to a speed below 15 MPH. Maybe next time.
@OutlawToys
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Uncle Bob had a KLR 250?
@motorcyclemichael2182
3 жыл бұрын
Bugs are water soluble...i use water on my face shield and Honda cleaner on my bike
@CptSmokeAlot
3 жыл бұрын
If living in an area with blisteringly hot temperatures, like Arizona, would a naked bike with no wind protection make more sense?
@jonnyfoxmtb
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. I have a small fairing on my Harley which mostly stops bugs, but I had to take it off as temperatures are around 90 now. It's better without it in the heat.
@LTVoyager
3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Remember that heat moves from a hotter place to a colder place. Your body temp runs 98 give or take, but our skin temperature is generally several degrees less, I want to say in the 90 - 92 range going on memory alone. This means that once the outside temp is above 92 or so, your body no longer loses heat by convection or conduction. Now, those are only two of the four main ways your body loses heat, the other two being radiation and evaporation. Radiation likely isn’t very effective either as your surroundings are often also above 92 degrees when it is that hot and the road may well be 140 or higher and thus you will receive radiation from it rather than radiating to it. So, the main method of cooling we have left is evaporation. And evaporation occurs better with more wind, right? Well, yes and no. It works better as long as you have enough water to evaporate, but your skin can only perspire so fast and if the wind is too fast, you will lose water more quickly than you can perspire and then you have conductive and convective heating from the hot air moving past and from your hot clothing. Often, a gentle breeze is optimal for best cooling and often a faired bike or at least a windshield will provide that. I ride a fully faired bike and I often can ride longer on 100 degree days than can my friends on naked bikes. The hot air heats them up and dehydrates them much faster than me and they are less comfortable and need to stop more often.
@CptSmokeAlot
3 жыл бұрын
@@LTVoyager That is a very thorough reply! Thank you, now I have to test these claims!!
@LTVoyager
3 жыл бұрын
@@CptSmokeAlot There was a great article written on this several years ago, but I can’t remember where I read it. Let us know how your tests go. Just be sure to ride at least an hour or two in each condition. You may feel a little better for the first 30 - 60 minutes with higher airflow, but once you start getting dehydrated, you will feel much worse pretty quickly.
@whimsicalstray
3 жыл бұрын
My Dad's the family's uncle Bob.
@marknycz4833
3 жыл бұрын
When will you guys have Anthony on the show? I loved his effort in the older Revzilla videos, be great to hear from a sport bike rider too!
@absolutelysobeast
3 жыл бұрын
My guess would be anthony doesnt work there anymore. I could be wrong, maybe he is just doing more important things
@CptSmokeAlot
3 жыл бұрын
@@absolutelysobeast he still does.
@therealslimgamey1
3 жыл бұрын
If u have someone on the back don't go around corners too fast. The pillion is quite likely to end up in a field.
@LTVoyager
3 жыл бұрын
Why would the passenger end up in a field?
@jfess1911
3 жыл бұрын
A comment about electric vehicles. Although I don't think that the US should switch completely to electric vehicles any time in the near future, it is important to note that some of your comments are a bit misguided. The US could deal with a large fleet of EV's. While it is true that the US currently does not have enough electrical generation capacity to allow hundreds of millions of vehicles to fast-charge at the same time, most EV's would charge at night when there is tremendous excess capacity. The current US generation system is sized for the maximum power draw, which occurs in the late afternoon of the hottest days of summer. Usually less than 10 days per year. The rest of the time, there is excess capacity. The argument that the efficiency and pollution of generating electricity for EV's is worse than the current situation is also not really true. Power plants are much more efficient than today's automotive internal-combustion engines. Even with all the losses, EV's use less fuel overall. Power plants also have much stricter emission controls that motorcycles. Overall, the environmental load for POWERING EV's is less than for gasoline or diesel-powered vehicles. There are other issues, like materials for electric motors and batteries for EV's that are more important at this time.
@arjenbootsma6881
3 жыл бұрын
1:21:15 Zack mentioning the footless stops. Ever since the first episode of Daily Rider, he's got me hooked on doing that as well...
@danielvd
3 жыл бұрын
Is only 2 kinds of riders: The ones who drive splitting lane (they know the 2 worlds) and the ones who never try/can (they only know one side of the coin)
@vikingplumber9541
3 жыл бұрын
So you guys only care about people that use Apple products? Only ITunes reviews get schwag? WTF?
@akiraqato
3 жыл бұрын
Lane splitting is not legal in Switzerland.
@travatron4000
3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think that being a passenger should be part of the MSF curriculum. So everyone who get's a license is aware of what it's like and how to be/teach a passenger.
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
That's a great question! Never really thought about that, but super interesting topic!!
@dantheman4life
3 жыл бұрын
YEAH BUDDY!
@kevopalapala4245
3 жыл бұрын
Guys I waited the whole show for practical do's and dont's as passenger or pilot when actually two up. Body position, even what options does a passenger have to hold on to....like not the shoulders or arms of the person who is in control of the bike. Simple basics weren't even touched on. Coach your passenger that even their head movement looking through a corner can help a bunch. Being smooth and slipping the clutch a bit more. Give yourself more time and space when two up... Sorry you just could have done better. Additionally you went part way telling us that lane splitting is viable when done correctly but neglected to mention what is the correct safe way when doing it. Simply what speed and situation is the practice even permitted?
@winstoncundiff
3 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to the same thing...I'd love to ride 2 up with my GF but honestly after 20+ years of riding I've never known how it's supposed to be done. Wish they would have gone into that.
@SpurgeonDunbar
3 жыл бұрын
I'll see about pulling this as a comment in a future episode, but this is why I recommended the Lee Park's book "Total Control". There is just too much to unpack in a podcast show about all of the body positioning and such. Would really recommend this book to anyone struggle to figure out the proper way to carry a passenger without making all of the same mistakes Zack and I did along the way.
@winstoncundiff
3 жыл бұрын
@@SpurgeonDunbar Well...this made my day! thanks for the response Spurg!
@dotCID
3 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting my first bike this year, and am planning to take my SO for some rides. We have quite some experience on scooters (those electric ones that go 45 kph), how does a motorcycle compare to that? I imagine it's mostly the higher seat (and thus larger impact on balance) that's the difference, correct?
@OutlawToys
3 жыл бұрын
I am a rider, have been many years. Lane Splitting is horrible.
@LTVoyager
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Valks-22
3 жыл бұрын
Please explain... if, we're talking about going between stalled or extremely slow traffic at 10-15mph not the douches splitting at 100mph between two adjacent cars doing 70mph on the freeway
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