Big update to Udio! Check out the details here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/uGptl4qgnquZnaQ
@winter5945
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great overview. I think the most important feature to request, for actual control, is for the AI to be able to modify previous generations using a follow-up prompt like "This, but make the bass less pronounced and make it more upbeat". Coming from stable diffusion background, the thing that made image generative AI actually become a good tool for artists was the ability to work iteratively - get something close-ish to what you want, then refine it more and more and more with each new attempt. If we have to start from scratch every time, we're never getting exactly what we wanted.
@123owly
4 ай бұрын
If we ever get a non-stunning week in AI, I'd be happy to just keep listening to you talk about AI Music. You both seem to know your stuff and not be too elitist about it, a rare combination.
@MortimerNightshade
4 ай бұрын
I love how you don't edit your videos with a bunch of annoying camera cuts like everyone else. You content is always very solid too. You are the best in the AI space period!
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Haha, Yeah-- I don't really do the super cut-y zoom in, whoosh sound thing. I mean, a large part is that I do my own editing, so...I'm lazy? But yeah-- that ultra YT style just isn't my thing as well. It's funny, my pace (if we aren't diving into a tutorial section where we're looking closely at something) is about 5 seconds per shot. Which, is still kind of fast. I just don't feel the need to do a bunch of bells and whistles in that time. That, and I always just trust that you guys all have an attention span longer than 10 seconds!
@MortimerNightshade
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia all the other youtubers have so much crap flying in front of the screen it gives me anxiety lol i know the reason most of them do it is because for a time it worked.. now its just out of hand
@narottamzakheim5051
4 ай бұрын
Just been spending the evening with Udio... all i can say is OMG. The depth... the virtuosity is incredible. I accidentally started a generation about being frustrated with a broken machine (was some default offering). It has now turned into an epic metal anthem about breaking free from societal oppression... with scorching music... a raw female singer... Incredible lyrics. (Udio AI writes amazingly. No lazy rhyming but really thoughtful and evocative prose) I have become totally obsessed with this track. Just trying to finish it off now. On 23 generations... but lots of that was experimenting and getting to know the app. Thanks for sharing the link... was having trouble finding it through Google. This app makes Suno v3 look kinda silly. Its not only my own song... but some of the ones Ive heard from others are breathtaking... this is next level stuff. I am totally impressed.
@robotron07
4 ай бұрын
by the end of the year i bet we will have granular control over generations and if you know some music you could actually tell it to use certaing chords and melodies
@Ibuyoldbeer
4 ай бұрын
I'm totally obsessed myself here. And I'm just scratching the surface. Entering my own lyrics and doing songs for friends.
@tomhe286
3 ай бұрын
@@Ibuyoldbeer Why bother write even own lyrics? Rather just let AI do it all. And your friends can make AI songs by themselves in one minut.
@maccagrabme
3 ай бұрын
So far it's been creating more interesting tracks for me than some of the well known alternative bands of the late 70s and early 80s not big hits but better than the fillers on a lot of those type of albums, imagine if they had access to this tech back then their minds would have been blown, it would have been alchemy.
@neilarmstrong6843
4 ай бұрын
Live performances and original human creationswill just be all that more precious and respected. A rebirth.
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Yup. That’s my take. Spotify has been horrible for musicians. If it crashes from all this, I have no problem with it.
@robotron07
4 ай бұрын
i can actually imagine a band that plays this ai generated songs live
@JonathanGarcia_el_filosofo
4 ай бұрын
@@robotron07Absolutely possible 😅
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
4 ай бұрын
oh great bad news for Hikikomori 😂
@JeffJohns-hd4fk
4 ай бұрын
No, live has been ruined for decades now.
@josephdromboski6411
4 ай бұрын
Through watching this I am reminded how important it is to hear about these tools from actual musicians and producers, and how much less annoying it is when someone with cultivated music appreciation/discernment and taste is analyzing their output.
@MrLieka
4 ай бұрын
Your musical refs blows me away, I've been addicted to Animals as Leaders since I've discovered them 5 years ago
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
They're SO stupid good. One of my favorite things is to try and take just a little section of a Tosin riff or solo and try to figure out how to cop it on a 6 string. Not at all note for note, but just his ideas on phrasing and rhythm. I can't keep up with trying to play like them though! Tried an 8-string once and got totally confused!
@hIIXu
4 ай бұрын
not only that but Primus as well! What a great taste
@larryreich5395
4 ай бұрын
Tim at 1,200 songs per month FREE during the beta, what kind of volume do you see amassing? If Udio gains a thousand subscribers in the first month, that could be over 1 million songs (realizing that a lot of it might be just short riffs). But pre AI text-to-music, how many songs or tracks were published or copyrighted in say 2019, pre-pandemic (by everyday musicians, composers and songwriters)? The numbers become mind boggling when you think there will be multiple music generating platforms. You really have a great KZitem channel! Keep up the great work!
@AdrianMRyan
4 ай бұрын
Stoked that more music stuff is coming out so you can talk about it. I also loved the short discussion last week. If you did a podcast that got actual musicians on to talk about AI openly, that'd be super cool. I'm thinking there's a whole world of people in the music industry, from producers to session musicians to ad jingle writers to the yes, rock stars, who all feel lots of different ways about it and are probably both worried and excited. Would be pretty great content, even if it's just a one-off or occasional thing.
@hardlines2635
4 ай бұрын
I’m a session guitarist and I love this, anything that takes music away from big business is great, if you don’t want A I support live bands by going to more gigs.
@danielbaronne753
2 ай бұрын
Except the AI algorithms are owned by big corporations anyway.
@choppergirl
4 ай бұрын
The problem is, if I don't want to listen to anyone else's AI generated music, nobody is going to want to listen to mine. I'm running into that post-pandemic a lot with KZitem videos. Nobody cares any more about watching other people's content. We're all just creating a custom vanity mirror to look back at ourselves. That's how humanity dies...
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Ngl: most people don’t want to listen to anyone’s music! Or, at least that’s what my own Spotify metrics tell me! Joke aside, you’re right. Already seeing that on various socials, flooded with other people’s Udio and Suno creations. And that’s ok- maybe this isn’t meant for outward facing “audience” music, but rather custom created individual song that you make for you. Like, “earbud music” not Aux connection music.
@choppergirl
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia Yeah, I've used udio this week to turn old poems into songs, and give them an actual chance to travel and a new audience (nobody reads poems anymore, but being lazy they may listen to a song). If you were to set up a streaming radio station playing an AI song, then as that plays, creating the next one up in the que, and just broadcast a steady non-stop stream of AI created songs... would anybody listen to it? Yes, at first, it might be fascinating, but in no short time, if a listener had half a brain cell firing they'd think, this is all just autogenerated crrp to tug at my emotions. That being said, the supply of half of brain cells is diminishing in this burgeoning idiocracy.
@anilbalram7768
2 ай бұрын
I've been using AI just to help with my creativity and potential portfolio with regards to knowing how to use AI. Not really to monetize KZitem channels.
@marcdevinci893
4 ай бұрын
I knew this day would come but didn't think it'd be that fast! And it's v1.0 BETA! This instantly puts out most music production out of business.
@T1tusCr0w
4 ай бұрын
All that’s missing is the granular controls. I made a song so catchy, with my own lyrics from way back. Tbh the only reason I’m sad that the site has crashed is I want to listen to it again ☺️ - I’ve been a songwriter for 35 years.
@Nuke-MarsX
4 ай бұрын
@@T1tusCr0w yeah its beta right now the server issue will dissapear over time
@johndoe_1984
3 ай бұрын
@@T1tusCr0wyou just wrote a prompt
@T1tusCr0w
3 ай бұрын
@@johndoe_1984 🤣
@tomhe286
3 ай бұрын
@@johndoe_1984 So? It is all that is needed now. The era of human song writing is over.
@neighborofthedevil
4 ай бұрын
After spending a small amount of time messing around I got a good feel for what was possible and have made 4 full length songs already that sound really good. You can tell that it's AI if you properly listen and it lacks a little bit of consistency, e.g. the chorus might not always be exactly the same. Some features I'd love to see would be greater control over instrumentation etc, more consistency in key elements of the like the chorus, main melody, etc and I'd like the option to trim clips or allow a little more fuzziness between the different extensions. My only complaint is that vocals do still appear at times during sections that are supposed to be instrumental only. Usually it takes a couple of re-rolls to get what you're after.
@tv-cd3yy
4 ай бұрын
is the site safe cuz i got mcafee warning to not visit it I really want to try it though
@larswillsen
4 ай бұрын
Udio throw me an error whenever I try .. guess you sent a billion people up there :)
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
I'm sure they're getting HAMMERED right now-- give it a few hours to see if the servers cool down a bit!
@NicVandEmZ
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMediait’s broken right now because to much traffic and not enough gpu power for the server
@LeonGustin
4 ай бұрын
This is already sounding way better than Suno, so it does make a lot of sense that it's crashing 😂
@TeslaTube
4 ай бұрын
What's the website?!
@bluestar2k755
4 ай бұрын
@@NicVandEmZ wonder why :)
@GospelProgressionsUniversity
4 ай бұрын
My guy came through again with another Al music update banger. Thanks for all you do fam!
@EmilyNilsen
4 ай бұрын
You just made my day! And I can now log into Udio's platform.
@Menezes_CI
Ай бұрын
I'm totally in love with Udio. Every single time I ask for a music it gives me a beautiful track. Suno in disgusting, everything sounds identical. The sound is good, but the AI don't understand what you ask for. The tracks Udio do sounds very unique.
@zmpfl5044
4 ай бұрын
You are now officially my helper for first suggestions for my next moves in the world of artificial song production. Congratulations! ;)
@AllanGildea
4 ай бұрын
Superb coverage, Tim. Thank you. Holy moly, this is what it must have felt like when they unveiled the wheel or the printing press.
@user-on6uf6om7s
4 ай бұрын
I'm excited to try Udio and it does seem to have some innovations on Suno (I love the ability to add an extension before and after the current generation). Personally, I wouldn't listen to any of these tracks and there are Suno tracks I would listen to so I'm not sure it's overall really blowing me away but we need more time to see what it's capable of.
@ArtGuitarLTX
2 ай бұрын
I've been using this app for a day, for instrumental rock/metal ideas it's pretty good. Most of the chorus progressions are kinda similar which I don't like, but its a similar formula. But it does have some cool melodies on guitar to get ideas from. 👍
@duskfallmusic
4 ай бұрын
Warning for Udio users: PLEASE fully read their terms of service, and while it is a bit swiss cheese that doesnt' mean it's not a worthy app for some: If you are interested in distributing music you've made: DONT, the Terms are a bit "wishy washy" in that they forget you can't upload directly to spotify and apple without a distributor, and it's a "NON COMMERCIAL PERSONAL AND ATTRIBUTIVE" sort of liscence, which means: if you're profiting off your music, try something else - I had to read it myself because i'm CURIOUS about AI music, because i use loops and samples myself that aren't AI generated and hoboy: I'm not going to attempt to use Udio and have to pay extra for attribution, and then get stuff taken down because they claim it before I can do anything.
@dkpianist
4 ай бұрын
It wouldn't make any sense to begin with to publish the output as one's own and try to make money wiith it. it would be like playing the lottery. There would be nothing to actually identify with for the "artist" using such tools to produce music.
@giri.goyo_yt
4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Exactly what I need to know about Udio.
@johndoe_1984
3 ай бұрын
@@dkpianistdudes won’t care and will just massively spam spotify. This is the end
@anilbalram7768
2 ай бұрын
Doesn't this mean you use it for initial versions and then just record over it for the originality?
@PopLife
4 ай бұрын
I am a Suno fanboy and have been using it since V1 and it has accelerated my songwriting 10x. I thought V3 was a game changer and that Suno was so far ahead of the competition. People were hyping Sonauto as the Suno killer which I thought was mid at best. Udio in BETA has just laid down the gauntlet!!! It sounds amazing. The website is getting crushed right now and generations take forever. The 30 second generations don't measure up to the Suno V3 2-minute generations. But this is freaking BETA. AI music is here and is only going to get better.
@Zoyous
4 ай бұрын
One problem I've had with other AI music generators is when I try to sample a section of the output and then use Ableton Live's "convert harmony/melody to new MIDI track" feature. It seems like the bitrate is so low and there's so much artifacting that the MIDI extraction ends up being so extremely noisy and chaotic that it's unusable, and it's just quicker to listen and manually play the part. (To be fair, this does happen to a lesser degree even with very clean high quality source material.) But I'll be interested to experiment with that feature with Udio's output.
@gulagwarlord
4 ай бұрын
Udio sounds incredibly clean compared to that other one Suno
@Edbrad
4 ай бұрын
We need a Magnific for sound and music upscaling. Then it won’t matter the quality of the original.
@Zoyous
4 ай бұрын
@@Edbrad I think so too! But I wonder if some of these services are "watermarking" their generations by omitting particular narrow bands of frequencies in both time and Hz.
@ventonthorn3455
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, their website must be getting hammered. I keep getting "Something went wrong! [ try again ]"
@julianschmidt590
4 ай бұрын
Wow, I've discovered covers of existing songs and melodies there, probably from one of the developers, because I haven't been able to discover this feature anywhere yet. So this is already technically possible! I hope this will soon be available as a feature, but then of course it will quickly become difficult from a copyright point of view. So we will have to hope for the rapid appearance of an open source alternative!
@BILLYPATRON
3 ай бұрын
I was against most ai but mainly the ones that stealing the likeness of other artists but for someone with thousands of random random songs and lyrics over the years and an ear for what I want to hear as production, this site has been the most exciting thing ive experienced in years. It helps all these lost lyrics find a home. I treat the creations like samples and flip them in creative ways and you can argue that it’s less destructive than sampling people’s music without permission.
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
7:06 That's pretty awesome!!
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
It's funny, I kind of slag on it in the video, but it is also the one song from the video that keeps getting stuck in my head...so...there is something to it!
3 ай бұрын
The song: "Echoes of the unknown silence" on Udio changed my mind of AI and music. Man ... a bit in when she really starts to sing..wow.
@ChurchoftheIgnorati
3 ай бұрын
First radio play of a Udio song was last night on Oystermouth Radio at just after 9:15pm. The show should be repeated tonight at the same time.
@TheoreticallyMedia
3 ай бұрын
oh, that's fascinating! I guess someone had to be the first!
@atlanta2076
4 ай бұрын
You really know a hell lot about music. I am very impressed with Udio. It's def not there yet but it's approaching at what seems like light speed. Very curious where they will be say half a year from now.
@jimmythebold589
3 ай бұрын
as a musician who plays many instruments, with jazz/classical/metal training, and produces in a daw, i'm excited by the prospect of collaborating with a.i. tools like UDIO. i already use AI tools like Splice Stacks and Captain Melody plugins, as well as Chat GPT for brainstorming. people who are afraid of being replaced are just being alarmist
@TheoreticallyMedia
3 ай бұрын
You’re speaking my language here. I hop around a lot of genres as well- and while my theory game is so/so, I often rely on Scaler (which I consider “dumb AI”) and ChatGPT for assists. Splice, as much as I’ve used them in the past, really has it coming. They’ve been pretty terrible in terms of optimizing their search, and DAW integration has been a mess. I’m really looking forward to the day where I can generate a kick/snare, or a keyboard pad like you can with image elements in Photoshop Gen Fill. I know people will complain that “the AI is doing the work” but many of those people who say things like that are the ones who aren’t actually doing the work. I see all of this as a fun and interesting way to create and learn more. Glad you commented! It’s always nice to hear from others on the same wavelength! (Pun intended!)
@tomhe286
3 ай бұрын
Alarmist? Are you delusional or maybe still in denial phase? AI will replace most of the musicians in whole world. And it will do that very, very quicky. Especially Electronic music artists. Nobody cares if song was made by AI or by human as long as the song is good. AI just does it billions times faster and with little to no effort. There is no need anymore to learn music theory or learn difficult music programs as ANYONE can now make perfect music in few minits
@gnarlymode
4 ай бұрын
Anyone else getting malicious website warnings when going to Udio's home page?
@JT-mf6ey
4 ай бұрын
This is awesome! I’ve written lyrics for years and can feel the songs but but can’t sing or play well enough. Now I can create!!
@Ruedi-ol1ul
4 ай бұрын
yeah and only you will hear it. because every person can make this and maybe the ai will write better lyrics than you
@flyversusfly76
4 ай бұрын
@@Ruedi-ol1ul😂 i don‘t get how people don‘t see this. It is not a Tool it replaces.
@hardlines2635
4 ай бұрын
@@flyversusfly76what’s the problem, I’m old enough to remember the start of MTV, video killed the radio star, Also people kicked off about the internet, MP3s even KZitem, personally I think this is brilliant and can only get better, I’m a session guitarist, I can now make the music and video I want and do it all at home, just look at the music scene over the last ten or more years, A I is definitely a good thing.
@flyversusfly76
4 ай бұрын
@@hardlines2635 it‘s cool that you see the potential. Me personally I think why should anyone pay for a session guitarist when I can Click some buttons to instantly have 10 great guitar riffs „in the style of“ fitted right my Song? I think there will be a niche for human music as an Art form still.
@owendouglas2879
4 ай бұрын
It’s depressing that AI is allowing people to cut corners like this instead of actually learning the skills required, all while completely devaluing real musicians who have spent years mastering their craft
@RetropunkAI
4 ай бұрын
The Frank Zappa part was great, I'm a big Steve Vai fan so that part made me smile. Good stuff.
@AlanBerry
4 ай бұрын
Have you seen the Steve Vai documentary on KZitem?
@RetropunkAI
4 ай бұрын
@@AlanBerry yep so good.
@AlanBerry
4 ай бұрын
@@RetropunkAI thanks man. I made it. 😀
@BhikkhuBear
4 ай бұрын
I have been playing with Udio all day and have yet to generate 1 song that matches the quality of any of the Suno AI (v3) songs I have made. I am starting to wonder if all the hype was just for nothing. Everyone was on twitter saying that this is going to be the Sora of audio but I am failing to see it.
@BhikkhuBear
4 ай бұрын
That said does not discount what Udio will be in the coming months or years. Really cool approach to music generation and nice to see more options in the market to be able to compete.
@MajoraEXP
4 ай бұрын
Honestly I couldn't agree more. The only thing that I noticed is on Suno the voice becomes robotic after some time where Udio sounds more like a real voice. Suno music is better imo for sure though
@High-Tech-Geek
4 ай бұрын
You sir are always on the bleeding edge. Thank you! My Udio generations are taking a long time... what were your average generation times? (watched your whole video, still waiting for my 1st gens to complete, haha) Update: 1st 2 generations took 20 minutes. Next 2 took 33 seconds! 🤯
@dwaiting883
4 ай бұрын
I just realized that AI will take over recorded music but perhaps there will be a market for bands to recreate the AI generated songs, live. For instance, it'd be super cool to hear a band produce that Zappa-like fisherman song on stage. Though folks may be more interested in watching holograms just mime the AI songs live.
@pse2020
4 ай бұрын
For a while, but with robots comming next year i bet it wont take long before they take that spot aswell, not to mention the hologram that perform on stage.
@TeddyLeppard
4 ай бұрын
Wait til there are celebrity robots, courtesy of Tesla and Elon Musk.
@davidshaw3374
4 ай бұрын
Yeah but they would have to pay the person who put in the prompt 😂 crazy
@balluse
4 ай бұрын
Still - no development is possible with these models. Just copying existing styles. Perhaps only a question of time until that hurdle is no more.
@dwaiting883
4 ай бұрын
@@davidshaw3374 P.Diddy would have loved this copy/paste back in his days. Can't believe how much credit he got for just rewriting lyrics to well established hooks. Flipping breaks and making things your own is cool, but can you imagine just taking the hook from "Smells like Teen Spirit" and just changing the lyrics and saying you wrote a hit song?
@dybluewolf
3 ай бұрын
I'm impressed by how AI evolution keeps getting better, improving tools. While udio has its flaws, being in beta, I believe it will evolve even further over time. I even tried creating my own music, and I can say it has been an interesting experience.
@JFikeVisuals
4 ай бұрын
Great video, bro. Can't wait to try out Udio. Love your taste in tunes, btw. Keep rockin'!
@francopannacottta3751
4 ай бұрын
I thought Suno Ai was rad... I mean, V3 is still great but ound? Holy molly maceroni!!! That's another level! And the control is also more advanced than with Suno! ... Crazy. I'm really speechless... I think here too, as with every AI, you're bound to come across a repeating pattern at some point, but still! Just the fact that mam can combine completely absurd style directions with each other relatively easily and without cramping AND that it still sounds good or at least interesting... Let's see if I can still get my metal song realized the way I want it to be :)
@tomi71
4 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim! Great video and nice to see that your music taste is great (Dream Theater, Zappa etc. Wow! Just my taste as well). Really enjoy your humorous way of thinking and making videos. btw we hae some commonality in comics as well as I´ve done them too (found on my channel as a youtube video). Thank You!
@graph1ks
4 ай бұрын
So far Udio seems interesting. Still a long way to go though but for sure a step in the right direction. I like it so far. Competition breeds excellence. :D
@LincolnWorld
4 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's your fault for sending so many people over, but it just keeps saying there is an error and to try again later. "Generation is under maintenance" . I will give another try later. They probably need to update their system to handle the traffic. This is my favorite AI channel these days. Thanks for keeping us in the loop!
@MidnightOilProductions
4 ай бұрын
This feels like it could be a Suno killer. My first generation was amazing! Thanks for reviewing this. I hadn't heard about it until this video.
@CrimsonCrystalRoses
4 ай бұрын
from the terms: "You acknowledge and agree that we may use your INPUT Content and Output to train or otherwise improve our Services, including our artificial intelligence and machine learnings model(s) related to the Services." "The Services may allow you to download copies of another user’s Output, and similarly other users may download copies of your Output." So the songs are not private here...
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
They are not. I'll circle back to them in a bit, but from talking to them-- apparently in terms of the licence, you (the generator) have it. They keep a clause in the licensing to be able to use the output for ad purposes, but that's it. Copyright is up in the air-- but that's an overall AI issue. If you generate an instrumental track and then sing over it, obviously that's yours and won't appear in any Ad material. Again, at some point when things calm down (it is launch day) I'll talk to them again and get answers for all this stuff. In the meantime, just have fun generating some songs! (If you can get it to work today!)
@leiheiemigli1174
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia Yea I just went through the terms and they do mention a private mode. But I couldn't find any privacy function on the interface. So as of now, sadly, with no private mode available I can't touch it.
@Silverhare01
4 ай бұрын
OMG, this stuff is so crazy. I mean i am making music by myself, it is mostly for fun. But this Ai. I mean a whole son in about 1 hour. I need at least 2-3 days, and thats only if i have an idea. WOW. The Future is AI, for sure.
@onanighttrain123
4 ай бұрын
It made me smile when you smiled at your Push me to the limits part. Just a stupid "I'm enjoying this!" smile...lol.
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
So I've been experimenting with Udio for the past day and......... I'm quiet impressed! 👍 👍 👍 The only glitch is when I got a warning about my custom lyrics being forbidden ( I had ChatGPT write me lyrics for a song about the troubling politics in the US in 2024).
@americanjesusshow4087
4 ай бұрын
site is falling apart cant get it to load
@americanjesusshow4087
4 ай бұрын
probably getting slammed.
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
I'm sure that server is getting SLAGGED right now. haha...the hug of death!
@StarWarsGalacticLore
4 ай бұрын
Delving into storytelling and video exploration, VideoGPT subtly refines my content, adding depth and professionalism to my creative projects.
@johndoe_1984
3 ай бұрын
And removing all personality
@stuartjameswright
4 ай бұрын
This looks very similar to Suno AI. I’ve spent two nights creating new songs from lyrics I’ve had waiting for years to put to music.
@Darkt0mb5
4 ай бұрын
I don't understand I got into the beta for 5 seconds now when I try to get on it says error
@piratesbelay
4 ай бұрын
Surprisingly good, "prompt" *70s aggressive electric guitar southern rock* AI did it again, making a believer out of me 🔥Udio Rocks
@macrumpton
2 ай бұрын
It occurs to me that creative enterprises are becoming less like noodling around for inspiration, and more like shopping where you are looking at a bunch of stuff and selecting what resonates with you.
@NunofYerbizness
4 ай бұрын
So what I get from UDIO is that it's to Jukebox, what ElevenLabs is to Uberduck; Like it'll still make music with better audible fidelity and consistency than Jukebox, but it can't generate output from pre-existing materials/attempt to copy one artist's specific styles (like that one Bruno Mars sample from the Jukebox library)
@PaulFishwick
4 ай бұрын
Metropolis Part 3: publish it. Would love to hear the rest of that one. I am wondering where to go from here? I am thinking: gen tracks. Slice and dice into segments/stems and then onto DAW for composing. Thoughts?
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
So, Metro is actually on the "Trending" page-- if you can get in (ha, I know the servers are slagged right now), you should be able to search for it. It is GOOD. I only played that clip, but I really had a hard time deciding where to clip it! Also: Stems are coming from Udio! Not at launch, but it is in their roadmap!
@ekRapidMods
3 ай бұрын
Because of your video I started using this website and it is a massive game changer. Better than any image generator (as good as they are) Now I can spread any message I want in a few hours work, the biggest issue that remains is making good videos, do you have any recommendations for AI websites or programs that make video editing and creation easier for clips that are 2-4 minutes long?
@shawnkeys4712
4 ай бұрын
So what makes a human have a point outside of the basic biological continuation of the species? Seems we are heading rapidly toward a point where all that makes us human is valueless
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Totally understand where you're coming from-- but I don't really see it here. Maybe Spotify will get flooded with a ton of AI Tracks, but Spotify has been screwing artists over for years now. The way I see it: no one wants to see a prompt perform live. They want to see people. AI Tools like this can only help songwriters craft songs (instrumentals for vocalists, or maybe arrangement ideas for bands)-- There are a ton of other use cases-- in general I find that musicians are the least fearful of these AI Tools. Mostly, because they've had to adapt to technology so much over the years.
@robotron07
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia I concur that individuals derive inherent pleasure from both watching and participating in sports. This joy is unaffected by technological advancements; for instance, one doesn't cease running merely because a race car can outpace them, nor does one stop swimming in the presence of boats. The essence of human nature lies in the desire to witness others excel in their performances. While AI may surpass humans in many tasks, possibly even in creating music shortly, this doesn't diminish its value. Instead, AI represents a distinct evolutionary path. I believe we will harness AI as a tool to augment our enjoyment of various activities. The unique experience of observing human performances is irreplaceable, neither by AI nor by robots
@johnpapadopoulos5687
4 ай бұрын
That's wild and... the end.of platforms who offer premium "royalty free" mediocre music for adverts etc... for non musicians. But that's life. The Zappa part was just crazy...
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah-- If a company like Splice isn't already working on something like this, then it'll pretty much spell their doom. Come to think of it, I should probably cancel my Splice Subscription...
@CinematicSoundMaestro
4 ай бұрын
From what I've heard "in there" (I can't test it at the moment, the website is under maintenance), IN MY OPINION, sonically, in terms of clarity and complexity, it is clearly SUPERIOR to Suno.
@CinematicSoundMaestro
4 ай бұрын
I managed to test it. Jesus Christ. When this "thing" is sufficiently trained and perfected, the phrase "composing music" will have another meaning.
@zenmasterjay1
4 ай бұрын
After using the workflow for a few days... We were totally wrong about wanting one gen at a time.🎉
@lyricvideos-musicwithlyric4015
2 ай бұрын
Sorry to bug you again, but you by far explain things better than others so you are stuck with me :) Two questions (1) I don' t get the work flow....When ready to create the song, I click the CREATE BUTTON --- when udio is done creating the song, next I clicked the EXTEND BUTTON. I'm satisfied with the song, so I'm done and ready to do a new song. BUT HOW DO I GET BACK TO THE CREATE BUTTON? I seem to be stuck on the EXTEND BUTTON and could not figure out how to get the CREATE BUTTON back. Instead, I exit Udio and open it again to get the CREATE BUTTON. (2) second question. Is there a way to pick the singer you like. I love the female singer I got on my first song and want to use her in other songs but keep getting singers I don't like. Thanks for your help. I love your videos but as a retired vet on a fixed income I'm always counting pennies.
@deastman2
4 ай бұрын
I find this pretty interesting. As a musician and recording artist, this is largely irrelevant to my work- I am not going to stop doing my creative work simply because someone can press a button and make a song. Where it does become intriguing is as a license-free source of samples to chop up and work into my original compositions. I’ve always been bothered by the idea of taking other people’s music and claiming it for myself as a sample. Potential issues with training data aside, this feels like a more ethical way to produce unique and royalty-free samples.
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Yup! You got it right there! I've been doing a lot of the same since like...well, pre-Suno. Back when it was still RiffDiffusion! And hypothetically, you could generate just drum loops with something like this. Or just piano chords. One thing for sure: If Splice doesn't get it together, they won't be around much longer.
@billyruss
3 ай бұрын
Curiously, when I typed a prompt that included the instruction "in the style of Yes", I got something that could have been a lost Genesis track. A couple of iterations later, this time without the Yes prompt, I had a track that sounded 99% like Jon Anderson (of Yes) singing it. A bit hit and miss but some pretty amazing pastiches.
@buroachenbach703
4 ай бұрын
Hi, just tried it - really great sound quality. Would you post a feature request for me (can’t find a way to do it myself)/? I really wish I could post a melody (as midi or just written) and have it arrange a song in a certain style with this melody. As amateur musician this would make it instantly more useful and a learning tool at the same time.
@alexadigitalradio
4 ай бұрын
UPDATE: Udio has already fixed the issue with consistent choruses that I mentioned below. It can now understand what's in your track within a 2 minute window whereas before is was only a 30 second window. That's impressively quick for support. Now, for me, this is now beating Suno, especially since Suno has run into issues with version 3. I've been able to easily extend Udio clips to over 3 minutes. At this point, I'm just waiting for the musician tools and an increase in clip length. Stems, or hopefully every track separate, will be prefect and that seems to be on Udio's radar. *** Having used this for a few days, there are definitely some things missing I'm sure others who write songs with lyrics may have noticed. I wasn't able to get consistency. Not even close. The extend feature often results in chaos. trying to get consistent verses and choruses isn't easily achieved. What I would prefer would be to see an app where you get to work on single sections without having to worry about fitting things into a 33 second window or some other number. Generating things and crossing your fingers isn't working for me. For example, it would be perfect if we had an option to work on the intro, verses, pre-choruses, choruses, bridge and any desired instrumental sections separately. Once and initial selection for a section is made, they should remain consistent with a scalable amount of variation in the music and melody via perhaps a slider that determines the amount of variation desired. Once worked out, we should be able to chain those sections as desired within an "arranger" that provides smooth transitions between the sections. And if we don't like that arrangement, we should be able to change it by re-ordering the sections and have the app automatically fix the transitions between sections to match. That would be much closer to how many songwriters work things out. Maybe this is asking for too much in the near future, but if this could be considered, I think everyone would be happy. For now, I'm doing a lot of offline editing and a lot of generating that wastes credits.
@alexadigitalradio
4 ай бұрын
OK, now that’s more like it! It just might be better than Suno! Guitars sound better than Suno and I’ll be putting it through the ringer over the next few days. Thanks for the quick update from yesterday. Once a paid plan is ready, pricing won’t matter as far as I’m concerned bcuz this is amazing stuff, exciting times!
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
As a long time guitarist-- the guitar sounds are INSANE. Not just the shred stuff either, I killed the "Bon Jovi Blues" song, but it had a pretty rippin' solo toward the end. Like, I was honestly thinking: I want to learn that solo!
@alexadigitalradio
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia - Same here. That was enough to convince me to sign up immediately. And after hearing about stems and comparing the GUI with its competitors’… I died and went to heaven.
@jcolabzzz
4 ай бұрын
Suno is universal, the voices are much more clean. I will play with Suno for a while and let it grow. Thanks man!
@Jess_being_myself
4 ай бұрын
After reading the positive comments about this, I thought I was the only one that thought Suno sounded better. Yeah something about the voices on Suno being more crisp
@PoppiesA1Art
4 ай бұрын
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I can burn 2k tokens in suno before I get a good voice that doesn't sound robotic.
@gulagwarlord
4 ай бұрын
Udio sounds way better to my ears, a lot cleaner than Suno... actually I thought the difference was drastic on first impression but I'll bring them into ableton and a/b them.
@Toxicflu
4 ай бұрын
Woot I'm in! It took a day to get into the beta and 30minutes to generate a song but damn the quality is great!
@deadrockstar49
4 ай бұрын
@TheoreticallyMedia Good stuff as always, Tim. If you had asked me 3-4 months ago how long it would take to get to this level, I would have guessed at least 5 years. It's amazing to think that THIS is where we are today, and it will only improve. Of course, how we, as musicians, ultimately utilize the tools will be the real challenge.
@alexfailaev
4 ай бұрын
Great content! I have to say that you are my go to AI video/image/(and now)audio- nice to have someone that is just good! I just can not fathom this?! I just made a song about some stories for my kids- still can't believe it! Question- did the video auto generated? If so, is it pretty slow? mine does not have videos yet.
@davideastham
4 ай бұрын
It's working awesome for me so far.
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
That's great to hear!
@TestDeckMusic
4 ай бұрын
After playing with it a little bit, seems like Udio has better overall sound quality, but Suno has much better composition. They'll each get better at both in time with user reinforced training though.
@scoobydoobydoooo
3 ай бұрын
As a Primus fan, ol' Bob the fisherman had me laughing my socks off
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
1:54 Definitely crank it up.......fan of Prog Rock here for decades 👍 👍 👍
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
The "Zappa" section has an interesting bit. I call it Zappa, but if you know your prog, I also hear Yes in the vocals! I didn't mention it in the video, or I'd end up spending 50 minutes rambling about prog, and then someone in a cape would show up to do a keyboard solo. hah, no one wants that!
@LouisGedo
4 ай бұрын
@TheoreticallyMedia 😆 🤣 😂 Yeah, that Zappa-ish song is interesting indeed. It shows that Udio can produce listenable off-tempo weird compositions too. That seems even more challenging...... but I'm not a musician so I could be very wrong on this.
@LATQueens
4 ай бұрын
The AI's Jacques Cousteau reference at 9:53 is probably from Wu Tang Clan - Da Mystery of Chessboxin. There is a lyric with a similar reference by Ol Dirty Bastard in that record.
@vivabeta7217
4 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd get a Jawbreaker reference in an AI video!
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
FIRST TO CALL IT!! I'VE LITERALLY BEEN WAITING ALL DAY FOR YOU! haha, we are now best friends, of course!
@vivabeta7217
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia hell yeah!
@monicaxirireland9996
4 ай бұрын
i tested this, I'm just amazed, the flexibility, being part of Theoretically Media 3X your capability with AI. Such a great commentator and brings great Value with every video.
@CrunchyStingray
4 ай бұрын
It's diabolical how advanced AI in 2024 has become.
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Boggles to think what 2030 looks like.
@danielbaronne753
2 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia You are not going to like it. Or maybe you will
@nuclearbumrecords
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you putting time into reviewing this and bringing it to our attention. However, having played with it all evening, it is already driving me nuts...only 10 extensions to a song, so it won't compare to Suno, and while the solos are good and the ability to "go back" and create an intro is great, it can't even remember the vocalist from the start of the song, or the chorus! It also only works in roughly 32 second increments, whereas with Suno you often get nearly 2 minutes to start with (on a paid plan). And quality-wise, Suno v3 is pretty darn good...
@banditoo7
4 ай бұрын
Holy crap! I'm totally blown away by this! Thanks for sharing. I can't believe it's free. I'd happily pay a subscription or whatever. How's it going to work going forward with copyright in the future?
@mylittleheartscar
4 ай бұрын
The "mic issue" is just AGI trying to steal the show Thank for sharing Udio!
@deseipel0076
4 ай бұрын
their servers are getting hammered this morning
@Fred_Berg
4 ай бұрын
They still aren’t working
@moontan91
4 ай бұрын
sure, i can have an AI to compose songs for me, another one to mix, and one to master. then i could spend my days on the beach with all that free time! lol
@robotron07
4 ай бұрын
in the future you will probably generate one single song in your prefered style, and then have an AI agent create entire albums and a virtual band based on it with music videos included
@user-vu3fd2rj1c
4 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm not Tim but I'm still here, liking it all!!!
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
I am Tim, and I'm loving it!
@mograine74
4 ай бұрын
I "created" some great songs with Suno, my only regret as a musician is not having anyone to play them with :-(
@Web3Metal
4 ай бұрын
Whoa, love the music you use to test things out - Bad Primus 😂
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks! Yeah, I wanted to see how far I could take it-- namely in terms of really stretching out the genres. And man, Primus? You don't get a better stress test than that!
@aron666x
4 ай бұрын
Imagine if the guy making this content was actually AI as well, promoting the AI music generation app 😂
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Haha, I did that once when HeyGen first came out, but since I only had the free plan, I had to have a British Accent-- it was pretty funny. You'll know when I go "Full AI" when I stop saying "um" in my videos!
@Artishtic
4 ай бұрын
I have to admit that this looks amazing. I actually liked the first Bob the Fisherman song.
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
It wasn't bad-- it just sounded a bit like Primus from the AntiPop album, which is one that I didn't really care for that much. I'll admit, it is now kind of stuck in my head...haha.
@Phil_Trujeque
4 ай бұрын
Your video popped up on my feed, so I decided to watch it (the KZitem algorithm must've tied this in from my interest in AI generated images I s'pose), so I had to give this Udio a try... Holy Mackerel!!! As a gigging musician and "hired hun" of almost 40 years, I found Udio kind of scary to say the least! My first attempt was to make a Motown song in the style of the Supremes... that kind of sucked... (and in the AI's defense, I only spent a few minutes messing about with the prompt) maybe one of the songs was decent... then I took a stab at trying for a late 70s early 80s Prog Rock type of song... and bloody hell!!! That's the track that scared the shit out of me! The track that Udio generated from my (probably over-engineered) prompt could easily pass for an early Genesis, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, and/or King Crimson's love child! Only after a couple attempts with the Prog Rock prompt, it gave me damn near what I asked for (maybe even better) --- haunting, catchy, melodic, harmonized vocal line -- complex rhythms and somewhat odd time signatures -- powerful bass line... aye aye aye! This tool is pretty effing scary if you ask me... but I'm absolutely intrigued by the technology... I mean... holy hell!!! And the thought that this (as well as the audio track isolation AI's) technology is SO in its infancy... my mind can only imagine what it'll be like this time next year! Thanks for (albeit accidentally) turning me on to this tool... I'm probably gonna lose lots of sleep messing around with it, trying to come up with the most useful prompts!
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
Hey Phil! Glad you found the video! And yeah, the guitars in the background of the shot aren’t just for display, I’ve been a band/gig guy for many years as well! Yeah, Udio is pretty insane! A few things to note that I didn’t mention in the video: for one, the output is at 96k Mp3, is it isn’t (at least for now) going to be appearing in a pro session. They do plan on releasing a “pro” version for musicians where you can generate stems. Not sure for certain, but you might be able to upload a reference guitar track you wrote and prompt something like: Bombastic Hard hitting 70s arena rock drums, no double bass” and basically get John Bonham playing drums on your track. Which…even I as type that, wow. Really, really crazy and exciting times ahead! And yeah, it is stupid good at prog. That “zappa” track was interesting, as I actually heard a lot of vocal Yes harmonies in there!
@gigasipke
4 ай бұрын
Very cool, the sounds are great and I was literally talking to my wife about this topic last night. Currently the generation isn't working for me (something about being under maintenance) but listening to the music already there is nice.
@TanChoonHong
4 ай бұрын
This is a godsend for someone like me. Loves music but can't play any instrument. The closest to music composition I have done is to string some sound loops from iMovie music library. AI has outdone itself again! Thanks for this review, Tim.
@AnniLehtonen
4 ай бұрын
Then you don't deserve to make music. You don't have to learn instrument, to compose. Everyone loves music, everyone loves money, everyone loves pizza. This is apocalyptic and wrong. Do you realize how many sacrifices I had to make, to learn to compose? Now it's being made a joke
@TanChoonHong
4 ай бұрын
@@AnniLehtonen Those who have invested time and expense on traditional learning have no fear. AI just provides a tool for quick ideation. For amateurs and hobbyists it also aids in music appreciation. Music is one of the greatest arts of humanity, and I salute the gifted and those who succeed through sheer hard work.
@tomhe286
3 ай бұрын
@@TanChoonHong Unfortunately that is not the case. AI is not just a tool. It will replace most of musicians. And in near future it will be almost impossible to earn anything with recordings. Just imagine the situation where song writer spend weeks to make a full song, mixing it etc. Then someone listens it and says "its decent, but listen this.." and makes better song with AI in few minutes. In that situation nobody cares if songwriter used weeks into that song.
@OLSKOOGANGZTAH
2 ай бұрын
Lols i'm an actual suno ai creator lol I write my own lyrics and songs and I have ai perform for me on my ch lol. Good video bro . New sub ❤
@TheoreticallyMedia
2 ай бұрын
Oh, I love Suno too. And they’re about to drop a pretty major update. Suno and Udio are both arm wrestling for best music Ai, and at the end of the day: we all win!
@cosmickatamari
4 ай бұрын
Been messing with it and thanks for the news. Nice that Udio gives 320 mp3 whereas Suno gives 192. Still wish I could get a WAV or FLAC.
@lyricvideos-musicwithlyric4015
2 ай бұрын
Are the videos you play with the song part of Udio?
@TheoreticallyMedia
2 ай бұрын
They’re not. I generated those in Runway Gen-2, just to have something to look at, as opposed to just seeing the Udio screen.
@CypiXmusic
4 ай бұрын
You sure this is great news?
@TheoreticallyMedia
4 ай бұрын
It's fun news. I'm not one who is particularly threatened by AI Music. It might flood Spotify, but hey-- no one is really making money there anyhow. Stock music? Sure- but again, there are probably about 900 musicians who make a full time income off stock. AI music, if it goes the right way, will do more good than harm for musicians. Being able to generate backing tracks in your DAW-- like, Garageband's Drummer, but with a whole band? Sure-- it'll be great for songwriting and demos. At the end of the day, no one is going to go see an AI generator live. Musicians will ALWAYS have that. Be it Madison Square Garden, or busking on a popular street.
@T1tusCr0w
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia*no one is going to see that live* "the future" 👀🧐 *hold my beer 🍺 unintended consequences* 😳
@HikingWithCooper
4 ай бұрын
I don’t personally think that it is that bad for musicians. I myself am not a musician at all, but I love trying to make music. What I find useful for my process is to generate dozens of copies of the same song and each one will have little aspects that I really like and then when it comes time to actually get the one good track, I may actually hire a band to record it using those little snippets that I really liked. There is no chance in the world I would’ve ever considered hiring a bandprior to this. So there could actually be a good upside for musicians with this similarly to how they could possibly be an upside for filmmakers with Suno.
@bluefernlove
4 ай бұрын
@@TheoreticallyMedia what I'd be more interested in, is to be able to feed it a sample, either via humming, or play on a virtual pad or piano, and make it compose around that. And be able to fully produce it. Like if I don't like specific parts, like a riff, to be able to manually play the notes I prefer via an integrated instrument, and make it fine tune the whole composition. That way AI would actually be useful to musicians. I'm thinking this is what music software like Audition will eventually do. AI could be an amazing tool if it actually does what you want.
@javier_afonso
4 ай бұрын
@TheoreticallyMedia You seem like a reasonable person, so I beg you to please give more thought to this arguments. I earn my living writing music and I can assure that it's not a matter to be taken so lightly. I'm seeing a worrying increase in certain points of view in the young "AI crowd" concerning ethical, economical, cultural and even philosophical aspects and as a visible spokesperson I think you have certain responsability to make the discussion more nuanced. First of all, some of the arguments I'm hearing are the same ones people used when mp3/streaming/spotify came out. People said the same thing, that in the end it would benefit musicians, that it would be a tool to help... Turns out it wasn't so fun and right now very few people can make money whereas before it was a lot of people's main income. Music in general has been devalued as well and as a result it has become increasingly vapid and more of a consumer good instead of a cultural expression. AI is the final nail in that coffin, as it takes the little leverage musicians had left and now they companies like Spotify have all the power to abuse anyone and ends all hope a of a fair streaming platform. Even worse, it makes a lot of people obsolete with AIs that trained on their own songs. If by stock music you're talking about production music, there's much more people than you think whose income comes entirely or partly from those libraries. It's definetely not 900 as you said. But even if it was, when the AI improves, they will go after advertisement, soundtracks, theatre.... all of those are the last remnants a professional composer could resort to earn a living and are now seriously threatened by AI (in fact Discovery channel already tried to replace the composers with stock music to save money from royalties). Once they're gone there's nowhere else to run. Even teaching jobs would be cut because this will cause a declining interest in putting any effort in learning music. And the massive workforce that's going to be suddenly unemployed will make it even more difficult About AI helping musicians in their DAW... I wish! But that's not the case so far. I use a lot of tools every day and the improvements are almost always geared towards those who don't know music but do know technology, not the opposite. The example you just used, the garageband that does the whole band... why would I want the computer to chose the whole band arrangements for me in a professional setting? They're such an important part of songwriting. Ideally, technological advances would be something that makes you forget you're using a computer and focus in the creative process, but it's usually the opposite. Now an AI can create the music so you can spend hours tweaking techincal details and doing what the computer should be doing. DAWS are full of repetitive, mechanic tasks that drain the creativity and could've been replaced years ago and there's not a single AI that's targeted them. For example, conversion from MIDI to sheet music is still a painfully slow and consuming task which requires thousands of very repetitive tasks and that's after the music is already finished. When you want to make you're own sampled instruments you have to locate them manually in really complex ways. If you want to make an orchestral mockup it takes hours and hours of tweaking to make them sound realistic. And let's not talk about implementing music and sounds in software like Unreal. The reality is that the professional musicians crowd is much smaller than technology oriented people who just want to have some fun making some beats now and then. So that's the real market target, because it's more profitable and because the software itself is developed by people with a similiar thought process. You say no one's going to see AI generator live... well there's already a lot of Miku fans, Kiss have just sold their image rights for a hologram show... Now that companies like Hipgnosis are buying entire catalogues and the few surviving rockstars are dying, we will start seeing a lot of shows with that kind of technology. It seems far fetched now, but so did Ai songs a couple of years ago. Also, statements like that perpetuate the myth that touring is profitable. It's a very risky business and most independent artists in fact spend their savings because they love to do it. And the more devalued music becomes, the less people will be paying for live shows (except those of massive mainstream artists that have a budget to put on an spectacular show) Also, composers and performers are not the same thing. A lot of people that work writing music cannot go on the road be it because they've trained in another area of expertise, because they live far from touring circuits, or they don't have the budget, or they have health issues, or they have kids to raise, or parents to take care of... There's a reason why people that tour extensively on a moderate budget usually do so when they're young. Finally, I think the biggest threat is an existential and philosophical one. Do we really want to live in a world where culture has become just entertainment in such a way that people don't even care about the emotional aspect of music? For me human connection is the sole reason music exists in the first place. Where does that leave us if we delegate that to a computer? In a way, automating culture is a way of saying we have nothing more to say and admitting the complete irrelevance of our collective and individual voices. I find that very dystopian and depressing.
@MajoraEXP
4 ай бұрын
I hope it gets better, i love the voice quality on Udio. The songs themselves though are not quite as good as stuff Suno makes. If it improves though it might be better due to that voice quality
@scientificapproach6578
4 ай бұрын
This is epic, I'm sure my kids will have fun playing with this creating their own music to sing.
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