Really enjoyed your series of these battles and your commentary..... Both of my great grandfathers fought for the South, and one fought at Gettysburg, and, survived....... Great series you have done....... thanks.........
@thehistoricalgamer
9 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Burttram Thanks Charlie! Means a lot to me when people enjoy the stuff I put up here. :)
@charlieburttram7961
9 жыл бұрын
You vids inspired me to buy the game........... love war and strategy games......... I should receive it in a few days....... thanks again, for your great vids....... I really enjoy watching them.........
@duckforceone
8 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing this lets play. Your knowledge combined with the game, was great fun to watch. Definitely a follow to your channel good sir.
@TheHauntedReader
9 жыл бұрын
Great video dude! I just finished a Civil War class that I have taken in college this year and we studied greatly about the Battle of Gettysburg. I am trying to get my Doctorates in the Historical field and love videos like this during my free time from school work. Great job on the battle, the one thing I would have probably done more throughout this lets play would have been using the artillery more against entrenched Union positions especially on ridge positions. But the game does seem to recreate the lack of shell quality that Confederate guns had back then, like you have mentioned in the previous video and this one. But all in all, great video and you earned yourself a new subscriber. =]
@thehistoricalgamer
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Haunted really appreciate that. Don't be a stranger, would love your input especially coming from someone working on their PhD in history.
@TheHauntedReader
9 жыл бұрын
***** Oh certainly I love historical discussions and I shall assist in any way I can with future videos of yours. =]
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
Luke, Yes I am familiar with Cleburne he was a brilliant commander, though to be fair the Battle of Richmond KY was a division sized engagement so its a bit unfair to call it destroying a Union army but Cleburne was brilliant either way.
@carpii
9 жыл бұрын
thanks, enjoyed the series. never thought id watch hours of someone playing a wargame, but your commentary kept it interesting. the game itself has a few shortcomings which I'm not sure I like, but overall its a pretty good attempt
@ivanenfinger9331
8 жыл бұрын
One more cool Pickett factoid he was reportedly the first american soildre to reach the top of the walls of Chapoltapec during the Mexican War. His units flag bearer was down and he grabbed the flag and planted atop which supposedly rallied the troops that were pinned down and we won the battle and the war.
@darkphoenix7535
10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video :)! Yes the stonewall, also known as "the Angle" or "High water mark of the Confederacy"... but I have to correct you...although Kemper was badly injured he survived the battle of Gettysburg and the Civil War. Later he became governor of Vrigina and died in 1895 in Orange County, Virginia ;)!
@RTSGAMER81
10 жыл бұрын
Less than 3% of all Confederate soldiers owned slaves, it is a common misconception that most of the soldiers could even afford them. Slaves were usually only owned by the Southern elite. However, many of the soldiers probably didn't find anything wrong with it but who knows. Great Video as always, I am eagerly awaiting the Union play-through.
@moe45673
9 жыл бұрын
Loved this runthrough. How do you feel about the tweaks given to the game since your LP?
@thehistoricalgamer
9 жыл бұрын
I've been so busy with other things I haven't had a chance to come back and look, but I will... I promise! I just need 36 hours in a day :)
@thoughtfulpug1333
10 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of Major General Patrick Ronayne Cleburne? He was a confederate general from Ireland who was the most successful confederate general in the Confederate Army of Tennessee. His adopted home state was Arkansas, and a the the start of the war, he commanded the 1st Arkansas State Troops, one of the most well trained regiments in the CS Army of Mississippi at Shiloh. He destroyed the Union Army of Kentucky at Richmond, KY, in 1862, commanded the rearguard of the Army of Tennessee after the Battle of Missionary Ridge at Ringgold Gap, defeated Oliver O. Howard's Corps at Pickett's Mill, and led the attack at Decatur. He was killed at Franklin on November 30th, 1864, and Jeff Davis called him "The Stonewall of the West". Robert E. Lee called him "A Meteor shining brightly for the Confederacy. He also requested that slaves be released to fight for the Confederacy in return for freedom.
@MIKCURIE
10 жыл бұрын
Great stuff.....really enjoyed this series.
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope to do more before too long.
@thoughtfulpug1333
10 жыл бұрын
On the topic of Picketts Charge, the 3 Division commanders in the attack were, from North to South of the line: BG James J. Pettigrew(commanding Heth's Division), MG Isaac Trimble(A.P. Hill's/Pender's Light Division) and MG George Pickett(Pickett's Virginia Division). In the charge, 2 of Pickett's Brigade commanders were KIA and the 3rd so badly wounded that he was removed from active command for the rest of the war. All of Pickett's regiment commanders and other officers were killed, wounded or captured. Isaac Trimble was so badly wounded, he retired from field command. Pettigrew would be mortally wounded on July 10th, at falling water's, Maryland, commanding the rear guard. Richard B. Garnett, one of the 2 Brigadiers in Pickett's division who was killed, was the brother of Robert S. Garnett, the 1st general to die in the Civil War, and commanded the Stonewall Brigade at Kernstown, Stonewall Jackson's only defeat. The other, Lewis Armistead, was the grandson of the garrison commander of Fort McHenry at the battle of its namesake. 15,000 men were in the charge. 5000 would not come back unscathed.
@thoughtfulpug1333
10 жыл бұрын
Also, one of the regimental commanders in Kemper's brigade, Waller T. Patton, was the Great Uncle of George S. Patton. W.T. Patton was killed in Pickett's charge, and in a cameo appearance in the movie Gettysburg, he was played by Ted Turner
@RobbyHouseIV
10 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I don't know that I've heard or gotten the impression that there was a surprising number of higher ranking Confederate officers that personally opposed slavery. I think as the war went on and more were forced to think about the "peculiar institution of slavery" from a variety of different perspectives many had come to the conclusion that win, lose, or draw, its days were probably numbered. In reading some of the commentary below especially regarding the scenario where Lee did manage to achieve another victory over the AOP, his next move to making a straight line back to Northern Virginia (win or lose). His would have been in no condition to carry out any further offensive aims that wasn't an absolute necessity or was something he was forced to do in order to get back to Northern Virginia. So Washington DC was never in any danger of Lee making an attempt to take the city which by then was just about impregnable. A hypothetical southern Victory at Gettysburg could probably be broken down into different types depending on when said "Victory" was achieved. July 1st- I think that if by the end of the 1st day Lee had managed to occupy Cemetery and Culps hill, Meade would have almost certainly made a tactical withdraw to the Pipe Creek line further south in Maryland. July 2nd- Had Lee been able to light a match underneath both Ewell and Longstreet's asses (AP Hill was suffering some V.D. flare up as I understand) on the 2nd day of fighting (having not taken Cemetery Hill the night before) and implemented Lee's plan of attack by say 10:30 AM or not much later then I believe Meade would have likely ceded the ground to Lee, making a tactical withdraw on the Pipe Creek line. That being the laying down converging artillery fire onto Cemetery Hill from theoretically 240 degrees given its salience followed by assault from Anderson and Johnson's divisions the demonstration against Culp & of course Longstreet obliquely attacking beginning around the Sherfy Peach Orchard turning the Union line as it headed towards the objective (Cemetery Hill). Such a plan would have been closer to Lee's mistaken idea of Union troop deployments towards the south of Meade's fishhook defense scheme occurring hours before Sickles decided he didn't like the crummy low ground assigned to him. Had such a coordinated attack taken place that early Lee would have only been engaging 4-4 1/2 of Meade's 7 Corps. Also the issue of those malfunctioning shell fuses would not have been such a factor as the target area of Cemetery Hill was much deeper than it was on the 3rd which was directed more at the ridge line towards the southwest of the hill. Again Meade would have likely withdrawn to the Pipe Creek line had the situation become untenable. 3rd- Had Pickett's Charge been successful (highly unlikely) or more interestingly, had Lee chosen to enter Pickett's fresh division in the areas gained further to the south (Devils Den, Peach Orchard, Wheatfield...) and driven in a northerly fashion coupled with a renewed focus on Cemetery Hill proper (Rodes, Johnson, Early, Penders Divisions) which would be preceded by converging artillery fire and by some chance achieved some definition of a victory you might have seen Meade just withdraw to the closes ground that looked safe and take inventory of the kind of shape he was in to weigh the possibilities of a counter attack which I think Lee would have been extremely susceptible to. Again, in defeat or some measure of victory his ass was headed straight back to Northern Virginia, do not pass Go do not collect $200.00!
@thomaspaine3394
10 жыл бұрын
Great video it would be interesting if pickets charge did succeed breaking the center. What do you think the historical gamer if it did succeed?
@slimyish
7 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with how you felt about Pickett in the movie simple for longstreet said on the second day, that going in without picket was like going in without his left boot
@michaelfreer36
10 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, artillery during the Revolutionary war until World War One, was used to break moral and make breaches in walls. It was not used to be accurate "go for the kill" type artillery like World War One where things were blasted into oblivion. It makes sense because, I would think a few pounds of lead bouncing through my unit's ranks near me would make me go nuts, especially the shell shot and canister.. I wouldn't like seeing friends being torn or blown to bits.
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
Canister was particularly deadly but in general your right.
@Daneclaw
10 жыл бұрын
Charges isn't really effective in this stage of (Alpha or Beta?)
@celston51
10 жыл бұрын
That makes sense from a historical perspective. A charge was meant to break a weakened/low morale unit. One particular example from this battle is the charge of the 1st Minnesota Volunteers during the July 2 fighting. General Hancock ordered the charge to halt the confederate attack and they paid dearly for it; 215 of 262 men became casualties in five minutes. Successful charges such as the 20th Maine's famed bayonet charge were the exception, not the rule.
@wolfedya1
10 жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering, why did Pickett blame Lee so much for the disasterous charge, didn't Pickett himself insist on doing the charge anyway?
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
He was excited to be a part of the main attack no doubt but he probably also thought Lee as the commanding general should know better, he was in shell shock really after the battle and its easier to blame someone else for your failings than take responsibility yourself. Longstreet admitted afterwards that he should have protested more than he did but he didn't because Lee had been right so many times most of the generals just assumed it would work because hey Lee said it would, Lee had somewhat of a cult following at this time so many officers had blind faith in him. The sad thing is Lee should have known better, the Federals made the same disaster just that previous winter where Lee's men slaughtered them at Fredricksburg and even before that at Malvern Hill in VA Lee made the same critical mistakes he made at Gettysburg on the 3rd and that was all the way back in the Summer of 1862.
@jacksiegel926
9 жыл бұрын
It is not that the Officers opposed slavery it was that they did not believe they were fighting for it. Lee when he was offered the position of commander of the Union Army said you are asking me to invade my home state and my people. Most people believed that they were fighting for their homes.
@zacharyclark4290
7 жыл бұрын
Jack Siegel Stonewall Jackson was the same.
@mark12358
4 жыл бұрын
He was Garnett, not Kemper who stayed mounted on his horse.
@MrVonKruger
9 жыл бұрын
Not one Charge with cold steel...when they Break, give it to them in the back, it CRUSHES them and they'll run right off the map.
@ivanenfinger9331
8 жыл бұрын
Also just a fyi the third division was pettigrews not anderson no biggy just thought you might like to know for next time
@ivanenfinger9331
8 жыл бұрын
Col. Mosby brought Lee and Pickett both were cool towards each other when Lee left Pickett said to Mosby that old man destoryed my division and Mosby said yeah George but he also made you famous.
@ovinusgaming
10 жыл бұрын
pretty interesting campaign. All it needs now is fixes to more dynamicness to campaign( more scenarios) and some other
@ovinusgaming
10 жыл бұрын
and ofcourse very good commentaries in your videos. I love historical subjects.
@manowar15021
10 жыл бұрын
the apparent success of the Confederate artillery barrage before Picket's charge was largely due to the brilliance of the Union artillery commander, General Henry Hunt. he ordered some of his guns to withdraw to give the appearance that the Confederate guns were having more effect than they actually were.
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
Yes that was part of it but hitting an ammo wagon that caused lots of smoke and APPARENT destruction from a distance helped as well.
@manowar15021
10 жыл бұрын
i certainly dont disagree, but did want to mention Hunt, who gets little credit at times. on a different note, i loved your videos, and the commentary that you put with them.
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
manowar15021 well I definitely agree that he deserves a lot of credit, he was really a brilliant commander. One of the Best Union Generals of the war imho.
@kdfsjljklgjfg
10 жыл бұрын
Kemper was the political general who was mortally wounded and Union soldiers tried to capture him. It was Garnett that couldn't walk and had to ride his horse.
@steelers708
10 жыл бұрын
Kemper was only wounded, not mortally so, he died in 1895
@kdfsjljklgjfg
10 жыл бұрын
Ah, I recall him saying in the movie that the surgeons told him his wound was mortal, but I never cared about Kemper enough to look it up.
@thoughtfulpug1333
10 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was R.B. Garnett who.was the political general. Might be Kemper
@Beanmaster73
9 жыл бұрын
garnett was the name of the bde commander that refused to walk and rode his horse
@thomaspaine3394
10 жыл бұрын
Another question, if the confederates did win the battle, what will be the effect in the union. One thing is that panic in the north east would be bad. New York would still have the riots, and the confederates would of forge supplies from Penslavania. Another good question would they keep going north to the state capital of Philly?Or go south to Baltimore?
@thehistoricalgamer
10 жыл бұрын
I think they'd probably be too exhausted for anything like that honestly. I think they'd withdraw into Maryland closer to their supply line and feint toward Baltimore to try and draw out the DC Garrison but I doubt they'd be able to stay north.
@mymneisadj
9 жыл бұрын
if u want something to be critical of in the movie Gettysburg it should be the battle being won by the 20th maine though they were the end of the line and under heavy attack if they had been routed the confederates didn't have enough on that end of the line to exploit that attack and union reserves the 5 or 6th corps were not that far away the battle on july 2nd was won in front of little round top and the fact that they held all of cemetery ridge even though they lost all of Sickles salient bottom line if the Alabama regiment had overran the 20th maine they could not by themselves overrun cemetery ridge thus couldn't win/lose the battle on their own
@thehistoricalgamer
9 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@LordTurtleneck
10 жыл бұрын
Please do a Union playthrough! Please.
@55098
8 жыл бұрын
Industrialization was another factor the South did not want
@BILLYHOLLINGHURST
9 жыл бұрын
The three division were Trimble Pettigrew Pickett
@Heyevizzle
10 жыл бұрын
Do it! Lets see a union lets play against an aggressive foe. had Meade lost Gettysburg I believe cities like New York, Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Baltimore, and even D.C. Would feel the threat of a vicious rebel army breathing down thier necks. And would call for an end to the war. Lee had no hope of successfully mounting a siege of Washington. However he knew if he won he could take and burn Harrisburg and York. Cut the Armies of the East from the West. Just the threat posed to thier lands would scare an already tired public of a war gone wrong would be enough. Lincoln was facing and election soon and had he not won we would most likely have a former President George B. McClellan who would have ended the war.
@thomaspaine3394
10 жыл бұрын
Sorry I mean the New York City riot would kept going since after all the union send troops from Gettysburg to put down the riot.
@whatfreedom7
9 жыл бұрын
Played this on IoS and won a confederate victory. Yet the game will not go to the next map. Anyone else experience this?
@thehistoricalgamer
9 жыл бұрын
What do you mean next map? Did you win the 1 scenario or the whole campaign? The game only covers the battle of Gettysburg.
@hemihead001
4 жыл бұрын
Why did Lee free his slaves before the war and Grant still had his until after the war ? And the North kept indentured Irish slaves until into the 20th century so the North has no moral superiority .
@thehistoricalgamer
4 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant to the cause of the war. Neither Lee nor Grant (who was actually from an abolitionist family, Grant didn’t own slaves his southern Wife did), caused the war. Look at the damn documents of secession, they make clear that southern states primarily left to protect and expand slavery.
@thehistoricalgamer
4 жыл бұрын
Also in 1859 Grant freed his only slave, a slave who his father in law gave him as a gift.
@therollerlollerman
10 жыл бұрын
Instead of categorizing the Confed military into being either for or against slavery, they most likely fell into "not really caring one way or the other." During the Third Reich, the Nazi political caste never got along with the German military as well, so they had to have their own SS and equip them with the best equipment, giving rise to their "elite" reputation. Since the Union's morale slumped more often than the South despite the loftier causes, it probably isn't too far-fetched to claim the Confed military believed in defending their lands more strongly. That one never fails to make men more willing to die.
@therollerlollerman
10 жыл бұрын
Good thing I was speaking in generalities, then and you simply invented a scenario in your head where I claimed the SS "always" had best equipment because let me guess, you had to fulfill your role as a professional self back-patter on KZitem, again?
@steelers708
10 жыл бұрын
***** OK you didn't say always, but then your 'generalities' are still wrong so my point still stands. And no i'm not a professional self back patter, I've just spent 40 years studying the German Army & Waffen SS so I know your 'generalities' are still utter garbage.
@therollerlollerman
10 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance falling for a common misconception now that I've looked up a few things, but do you really think the best way to prove yourself not a complete nobody and validate four decades of your life is by picking out a minor comparison in my comment to a largely unrelated topic to act pompously about?
@King.Leonidas
10 жыл бұрын
You have won the battle but you have not won the war :P
@Captainkebbles1392
8 жыл бұрын
super belated comment. but picket would not allow any of his men to insult the United States president because he was important to allowing picket to get into West Point Picket felt the President was a good man but was getting bad advice from his suburbanites
@Captainkebbles1392
8 жыл бұрын
also I agree gettysburg was not going to be a major turning point for the south Vicksburg fell shortly after and to me ended the chance for the south to win
@Mr.House_
8 жыл бұрын
I'm black and I agree with slavery. the bible says slavery is OK and I agree when a man breaks the law he is given a choice either he gets hanged or does his sentence through slavery. the south did slavery wrong because they did it by race.they picked black people as slave's because their black and that's wrong and racist.slavery should be every race not just Black's. I think slavery should be a law in the modern world.
@mymneisadj
9 жыл бұрын
the whole war was in fact about slavery all u have to do is read what they wrote at the time to know this the whole states rights argument came after the war when the south realized they would be damned in the history books for fighting for slavery
@thomaspaine3394
10 жыл бұрын
Play as the union please.
@ivanenfinger9331
8 жыл бұрын
Col. Mosby brought Lee and Pickett both were cool towards each other when Lee left Pickett said to Mosby that old man destoryed my division and Mosby said yeah George but he also made you famous.
@thehistoricalgamer
8 жыл бұрын
Heh... I hadn't heard the last part.
@ivanenfinger9331
8 жыл бұрын
+thehistoricalgamer Theres a video here on you tube where this park ranger gives a lecture on Lees post war life and he tells that story its a really cool lecture i think you can type in lee the post war years and it will take you to it
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