“Pride comes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall” Proverbs 16:18
@GranMia1
Ай бұрын
Being a person from Western Ky...I am thankful I removed my membership from this denomination. I will not bend the knee to this.
@wanda520
Ай бұрын
Me too! Left about 8 years ago
@joer5627
Ай бұрын
So glad we left this sick mess
@notsatch
Ай бұрын
To all Christians still in the UMC: run, don't walk, to the nearest exit!
@charliecharlie7898
Ай бұрын
Revelation 18:4 Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, that ye receive not of her plagues The fall of Babylon is being prophesied. All glory and honor to our Lord God Almighty. I have so much respect for those who have left the UMC.
@dalepettit6799
Ай бұрын
A side note here. There is this concern for "Brown" people, does this include the Methodist conferences in Africa that don't support the pro LGBTQIA+ agenda?
@georgenesvoboda2712
Ай бұрын
We left the Methodist a year ago. And all of us are happier as a non-denominational church. We only lost 4 members when we disafilliated but are slowly growing. So glad we left when we did.
@jwb1358
Ай бұрын
My local UMC that I am on staff in the music department. We are in the Holston conference. My church is waiting on the information to possibly disaffiliate. My church is a conservative congregation. We have had some members leave after General Conference. We have some members telling us to stay and stand by our beliefs despite the changes made to the Book of Discipline. I personally think we should leave the UMC. My current Pastor is conservative and publicly stated that he will continue to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and will not perform same sex weddings. Pray for my church please.
@shelliejones7817
Ай бұрын
So sad. I'm Southern Baptist, they're not far behind. Prayers for your church. 🙏
@carolbarlow8896
Ай бұрын
@@shelliejones7817Agree. Since we can’t get even 10% of our SBC churches to show up at our annual convention and vote the bums out we deserve the mess we’re in. I just don’t understand it. Prayers for our Bible believing brothers and sisters in the UMC. 🙏
@miniprepper8284
Ай бұрын
To remain yoked to the UMC means they will use your apportionment to support their false doctrines.
@johncasciani3296
Ай бұрын
It seems odd Jesus never said a word about gay people.
@caman171
Ай бұрын
@@shelliejones7817 The SBC def has it issues, but we are nowhere near what the UMC is. I mean we just kicked out churches for having female pastors, so I hardly thing we will be going down the lgbtq road. We have more people leaving over the calvinism issue than the liberal issue. In any case we are not what we should be. Lets pray. At least our churches can pull out with no fear of losing property, reorganize and keep going. Out Methodists brothers are risking everything
@bleachdemon7321
Ай бұрын
The UMC is a fallen organization. This embracing of sin, not the sinner is telling.
@randykuhns4515
Ай бұрын
,... it was really tackled and overthrown and forced to be this,... thankfully my church successfully disaffiliated,... It is now Bethany Church of Ellabell,...
@mcneillmama50
Ай бұрын
I made my exit during the pandemic when the UMC closed their doors for two years when all the local Wesleyan churches continued having services. That's when I realized all these backdoor covert meeting were taking place. They were planning to stonewall the prior vote to keep to the book of Discipline. The Bishops were getting their plans together to get what they could get and leave the churches in ruins. It was pure greed and dishonesty.
@rebeccachapman1231
Ай бұрын
From the people who don't know what a woman is.
@JMarkJones
Ай бұрын
The principalities and powers, rulers of darkness are in full charge now.
@Asinnersavedbygrace-lc1fy
Ай бұрын
I am only one minute, three seconds into this video and my mouth is already hanging open in shock at "Beers and Queers" and the language of a supposed clergy person at Chapel Hill. I am almost afraid to see what other ways those affiliated with the UMC have acted and spoken. Some of us saw the trickling in of this for years, with the cracks in the dam beginning to gush around 2016. The most recent General Conference has completely crushed the dam and lives (souls) will be lost in the resulting flood of toxic water.
@jewelsbug84
Ай бұрын
I really appreciate you telling it exactly like it is.
@TexMarque
Ай бұрын
So the UMC is promoting anti=biblical practices. Anybody that remains is affirming apostasy by remaining.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
@TexMarque "So the UMC is promoting anti=biblical practices. Anybody that remains is affirming apostasy by remaining. " The UMC has promoted anti-biblical practices *_since its inception_* . "A woman should learn in silence with full submission. I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent. For Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed. " (1Tim 2:11-14) "God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the *_women should be silent in the churches_* , for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for *_it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting_* . Did the word of God originate from you, or did it come to you only? *_If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord’s command_* . " (1Cor 14:33-37)
@michaeltingle3789
Ай бұрын
All I can say is that having just returned from the Trinity Conference GMC annual conference and what a wonderful experience it was I am so thankful that we left this sickening bunch.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
13 күн бұрын
You'll be where they are in less than 10 years.
@michaeltingle3789
13 күн бұрын
What are you,an Oracle?
@richardhindley4459
Ай бұрын
I'm in the UK, and eventually left the British Methodist Church a couple of years ago after it abandoned orthodox Christian teaching. It's in full collapse, with some projections putting its extinction somewhere in the 2040s. Very sad. But there are still many faithful Wesleyan evangelicals here, preaching repentance and forgiveness of sin, total surrender to Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and holiness of heart and life. The BMC will disappear, but the gates of Hades will not prevail against the church of Jesus Christ!
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
Does that "total surrender" include obeying God about the role of women in the church? "A woman should learn in silence with full submission. I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent. For Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed. " (1Tim 2:11-14) "God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the *_women should be silent in the churches_* , for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for *_it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting_* . Did the word of God originate from you, or did it come to you only? *_If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord’s command_* . " (1Cor 14:33-37)
@rc4211
Ай бұрын
"Change and decay in all around I see; O Thou who changeth not, abide with me." Henry Lyte 1847
@russ254
Ай бұрын
wow - didn’t think things could get worse
@russ254
Ай бұрын
since they really can’t allege that this discrimination against immigrants or other identities happened in the UMC, really what they want is for conservatives to show up on Sunday and grovel and apologize for their behavior from Monday til Saturday!
@nevafitzgerald2402
Ай бұрын
This is simply awful 🙏
@jewelsbug84
Ай бұрын
We officially asked to be removed from membership from our FUMC about a month ago. Now struggling to find another home church
@bleachdemon7321
Ай бұрын
I fled too, I went Catholic after a lot of prayer, that was my path, I pray that you will follow where the Lord wants you to go.
@caman171
Ай бұрын
@@bleachdemon7321 oh wow. Sad to hear you went from one heresy to another. I would think there are plenty of other options than idolatry and purgatory and a literal slaying of Christ on an altar. my intention isnt to be mean or rude, but it is what it is
@bleachdemon7321
Ай бұрын
@caman171 the small mindedness and fallibility of foolish mortals don't bother me, I'm getting to know Christ better on this path. I pray that you will know the Lord in a similar way.
@pauldotto5130
Ай бұрын
@@caman171The true Church is the Roman Catholic Church. I suggest watching Trent Horn or Keith Nester or Blue Collar Catholic on KZitem. Keith Nester is a former Methodist Pastor and Blue Collar Catholic is a former Non-denominational Evangelical Christian. Both now Catholic.
@pauldotto5130
Ай бұрын
Find your local Catholic Church and start attending.
@snowyowlz5992
Ай бұрын
Lord G-d come quickly and take your faithful Bride home with you. Keep us pure, holy, and faithful unto you, Amen.
@duenge
11 күн бұрын
Proud I am a FORMER MEMBER of the UMC. We left about 12 years ago, we could see it starting then....
@JamesAllmond
Ай бұрын
Ok, so glad we decided to leave and join the GMC... Since when does popular opinion and feeling override scripture? Pray for the folks in the UMC.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
@JamesAllmond " Since when does popular opinion and feeling override scripture? That's a very good question. For the UMC, it has since its inception. "A woman should learn in silence with full submission. I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent. For Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed. " (1Tim 2:11-14) "God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the *_women should be silent in the churches_* , for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for *_it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting_* . Did the word of God originate from you, or did it come to you only? *_If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord’s command_* . " (1Cor 14:33-37)
@johnthomas6895
Ай бұрын
My thinking is the underlying message of this resolution is that if a UMC traditional church opposes adopting this confetence "doctrine," then the church is "sinning" or certainly will be deemed in violation of the conference's policy. The church, then, would be subject to punishment or closing. Their past statements of "just wanting to be accepted" ring pretty hollow.
@timdeneen2463
21 күн бұрын
A freefall to damnation. Tragic.
@mcneillmama50
Ай бұрын
theres a saying better to keep your mouth shut and allow people to think you are a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt. I can't believe these bishops and flag waving preachers are tweeting their foul ideas on social media for the youth to see.
@plainspokenpod
Ай бұрын
I'm personally quite glad they are revealing themselves. The truly infuriating time was when they weren't nearly so overt as to show themselves, when they made me and others feel crazy for ringing the alarm that it was going this direction...
@randykuhns4515
Ай бұрын
Romans 1 states "not only do they CONTINUE to PRACTICE it,.. but ALSO APPROVE of the PRACTICE",... so if you simply approve it even though you don't practice it you'll also be held accountable,.. He said it would be better if a millstone was tied to their neck and thrown in the sea rather than mislead the children, because children are certainly watching and will accept what their elders approve of,...
@Anonymous-cm9md
Ай бұрын
Think of all the families who have homosexual relatives that have led their own children astray.
@randykuhns4515
Ай бұрын
@@Anonymous-cm9md how true,...
@awatchmanonawall6188
Ай бұрын
we got out last year glad we did .bought our building mived on .
@KevinHale-vq2xr
Ай бұрын
The Gospel never comes up with UMC. They Change the biblical explanation of sin and call it human sexuality. No more sin
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
@KevinHale-vq2xr " They Change the biblical explanation of sin and call it human sexuality. " Why not? They changed the Biblical explanation of women's role in the church a loooong time ago. Everything was subject to popular opinion from that point forward. "A woman should learn in silence with full submission. I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent. For Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed. " (1Tim 2:11-14) "God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the *_women should be silent in the churches_* , for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for *_it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting_* . Did the word of God originate from you, or did it come to you only? *_If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord’s command_* . " (1Cor 14:33-37)
@davidpayne2703
Ай бұрын
It was my understanding the African UMC was the group who had kept this LBGT+ group from taking over the UMC. How does this new confession square with the African members? We left several years ago when I finally understood the words in the Bible were not relevant to our local UMC.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
This is the fruit of Wesley's disobedience to Scripture on the subject of women's role in the church.
@robertmayer6866
Ай бұрын
Repent of biblical morality? Headslap
@branttrainstation
16 күн бұрын
Galatians 1:8-9 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to the gospel we have proclaimed to you, let him be accursed! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is proclaiming to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let him be accursed! The sad part of this is United Methodist Church denying inspiration preservation and Authority of the living God/Yahweh word scriptures, the other sad part is many of the members have serve years even decades believing that when they stand before the throne they'll hear well done good an faithful servant, but now they have turn there back on the lamb of God for his dying and rising for our sins they will hear not for the first time but for the last time depart from me you worker of lawlessness
@larrybedouin2921
Ай бұрын
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [arsenokoitēs] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. {1 Corinthians 6:9-10} He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: *which is the second death* {Revelation 21:7-8}
@goaliecoachmike
Ай бұрын
As grievously backwards as they can get.
@walterbrown8694
25 күн бұрын
Publicly calling God's Word "Sin" seems dangerously close to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I certainly have no desire to venture "out on that spiritual limb." The Lord's command to "Love ones neighbor as oneself" does not, and never has, encouraged or accepted what God has regards as sin. If God calls something sin or an abomination, I'm in agreement with God. Period.
@boooshes
Ай бұрын
The apostasy must come.
@richardhindley4459
Ай бұрын
I usually use the words "orthodox" and "heterodox" to describe and distinguish the faithful church from the unfaithful would-be church. I think these are better and more precise labels than "conservative" and "progressive".
@plainspokenpod
Ай бұрын
I have heard others make the same case. The problem is that there is literally a huge group of Christians called Orthodox, and they do not recognize us as AT ALL orthodox. Rather, we are regarded by them as heretical. So the use of the word just confuses a larger conversation. It's fine to believe that our beliefs are indeed orthodox, but when using the word in a public arena, it causes more confusion than is helpful. Talk about right doctrine. Great. If you talk about orthodoxy, go ahead and get ready not to gain any ground in mutual understanding. Everyone thinks their own beliefs are orthodox. It is better to talk about the principles involved in reaching orthodoxy. Conservative principles are how one arrives there.
@jamesbell9041
Ай бұрын
The UMC can merge with the UU church and emerge as the UUcubed…..
@isbjorneliassen
Ай бұрын
IMHO there is no such thing as collective sin; and therefore collective confession. Sin is rooted in the human heart and enacted by individuals. We all, individually, are called to repent and be reconciled to God. No one can or should apologize on my behalf, nor would I presume to apologize for another.
@U18B
Ай бұрын
Actually, it is Biblical. In Nehemiah 9, the people confess their collective sin all the way back to Moses. Very few coming out of Babylon captivity were responsible for the sins that led to it. Those responsible were dead. But they as a group confessed the sins of their parents and ancestors. I’m not justifying this resolution. I’m also glad I got out of the UMC. Just commenting on repentance theology.
@Anonymous-cm9md
Ай бұрын
I have wondered about that passage also. I’m wondering if it’s because Hebrews were mainly regarded by God as a nation in order to bring forth His redemptive plan for Jew and Gentile through Jesus Christ.
@uslanja
16 күн бұрын
UMC is not Christian in any manner. 1 Corinthian 6:9-10
@heidicain8115
9 күн бұрын
So I’m confused… what language are you against in this resolution? It doesn’t say you must take up the LGBTQAI+ cause… I genuinely don’t get it. What’s wrong with confessing the sin of racism, sexism and wrong done to groups of people?
@homunculous007
27 күн бұрын
Woe unto thee. Thou hast let Satan into your hearts and church leadership. The true gospel of Jesus Christ is on the earth if one knows where to find it.
@kevinkelly1586
Ай бұрын
"Not all our fault, but all our responsibility." That's not biblical; "All have sinned," (Romans 3:23), not just heterosexual "white males."
@fibonacho
Ай бұрын
2:00 He left off the "2S" at the beginning and the "QIA+" at the end! How can a person claim to be inclusive when he/she/it/they/wolf/cat limits it to the pre-2018 non-inclusive acronym? I'm going to discuss this with the hot rock that my yogi/shaman applies to my fourth chakra during the next Reiki sermon at my local UMC when the moon is waxing Uranus.
@grumpy1020x
Ай бұрын
Prediction, GMC is just a few years behind the UMC. Already ordaining "non" practicing lgbt (which doesn't have to be proven, just stated). Just my opinion.
@caman171
Ай бұрын
Baptist here so I dont have a dog in this fight, but a faithful, celibate person who invites all eyes to be on them, should be allowed to do anything. If theres no practice of sin, where does the scripture say they arent allowed to do anything? Paul was celibate, did anyone ask if he was gay? Not saying he was, I'm just saying he was celibate. Celibacy is celibacy regardless of orientation. I'd say they have more standing scripturally, than a person who has been divorced. as long as they are celibate, affirm biblical male and female roles and genders, and are willing to take the scrutiny, they have more fortitude than many heterosexual persons. otherwise, youre just pushing them to the lgbtq "community" where there gifts will only be perverted
@pauldotto5130
Ай бұрын
@@caman171yes Scripturally divorce isn't approved in the new Covenant. I know Catholic Church doesn't accept a divorce and divorced Catholics cannot remarry unless they have had an annulment.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
@@caman171 " If theres no practice of sin, where does the scripture say they arent allowed to do anything? " "Paul was celibate" Paul was not an elder, he was an apostle, personally chosen by Christ for an office which does not exist today. What are the qualifications of an elder? "Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, *_the husband of one wife_* , sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity *_keeping his children submissive_* , for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? " (1Tim 3:2-5) What is not clear about that?
@caman171
16 күн бұрын
@@Packhorse-bh8qn It is very clear....for someone who is married. However, according to your view, someone who is in ministry, but then loses their spouse thru death, could no longer serve, for they are no longer the husband of one wife. An apostle, would have much higher qualifications would they not? I could also ask what if the person only has ONE child? The qualification says "children". What if the person who is married is childless involuntarily? What if they are childless by choice? I believe Christians who marry should have at least 3 children, or they havent multiplied, which is the first commandment, yet we allow them to be ministers. However, I would bet that you wouldnt even question it, and allow that person to serve correct? I might also add, that if the person is divorced and remarries, then they are disqualified in my view, yet you probably think that is acceptable. So, as you can see, my view is pretty strict compared to the UMC. I do not believe divorced persons who remarry, are eligible to be elders, and I do not believe that those who are married but do not want children are eligible. If you dont want children, then you must be selfish in some way. The bible says children are an inheritance from the Lord. If you reject your inheritance, you reject your right to be ordained. That is my view. I hope this shows that I am no liberal. Yet I also have compassion on those, who thru NO fault of their own, do not meet your qualifications. The scripture (I believe) is merely stating that IF you are married, then those must be the qualifications. It was the norm in the culture. If you are saying that the apostle Paul is disqualified from being a pastor, I would have to say thats a ridiculous view. I might also add that Jesus Himself doesnt meet your qualifications, yet He was most certainly a rabbi
@Packhorse-bh8qn
15 күн бұрын
@@caman171 "It is very clear....for someone who is married." No, it's very clear that an elder MUST be married AND have children. It's not a suggestion. It's a requirement, and the the reason for it is clearly stated. If he can't manage a family, he can't manage the church. A single man cannot learn the lessons needed to guide the church until he has learned to guide a family. And yes, that means it is completely unbiblical and ridiculous to take a boy, send him to school for 4 or 6 years, and then make him a Pastor. The job of the elder is to pastor the sheep, and that entails a LOT more than preaching a sermon every Sunday.
@therealnotanerd_account2
Ай бұрын
I just saw the GMC also has female pastors. In 20 years all this nonsense will destroy them also. You have to cut the evil from the root.
@carolbarlow8896
Ай бұрын
They disagree on the interpretation of certain scriptures but not on the nature of scripture itself. They hold it to be holy writ and many in the GMC do not believe in women pastors.
@fernandoperez8587
Ай бұрын
@@carolbarlow8896 John Wesley didn't believe in women pastors, but did allow women to be preachers.
@carolbarlow8896
Ай бұрын
@@fernandoperez8587 Exactly. My own view is that as long as women aren’t taking authority over men we’re on solid ground biblically but I respect that others disagree.
@frankrussell6949
Ай бұрын
Let me be Frank. Traditional means traditional with traditional male and female roles in the Church. Female preachers and pastors will lead us down the same path of destruction just like the UMC did. Where's does the right to life position stand in the GMC. God help us.
@Derek032789
Ай бұрын
There’s going to be a split in the GMC over women’s ordination.
@terrymeadows1827
Ай бұрын
You do not need "the church" but the authority of the Holy Scriptures where God revealed His will and ways to His people through His appointed prophets, disciples, and apostles. Your "church" follows John Wesley who was a man of another of the devil's lie called the Enlightenment which opened the door to "human reason" and not only which invited itself into that religious group but kicked down the proverbial door and destroyed that religious institution. (Genesis 3) The same will happen to the GMC, unless you and your religious group repents and turns away from Scripture-denying/downplaying Wesleyan theology. I do pray that you all do, as the Christian life is one of daily repentance. Personally, I would love to refer to you all as my brothers and sisters in the faith. I'm not holding my breath for that to ever happen because you UMC-ers cannot seem to get past Wesley and your human institutions, and therefore you doom yourselves. I do continue to pray for you all in hope that you return to Christ. I'd love to meet and greet you in heaven. Please read Genesis 3 and Revelation 7. +Gloria Deo-Glory to God+
@marshalldarcy7423
Ай бұрын
It does not help to bring in Marxisms to this problem for it is not economics but religion. You do not need Marx to make your point.
@plainspokenpod
Ай бұрын
The two are connected. Marxism is a competing religion. Satan doesn’t honor the boundaries we try and set for him. You aren’t going to understand the evil of our age if you discount Marxism from consideration.
@marshalldarcy7423
Ай бұрын
@@plainspokenpod As you see the world as good/evil you do not see that which goes beyond win/lose. Christianity is a rejection of the world for the glory of God, so it is with money and sex. You do not want to end up as the Popes by worshiping wealth. Marx saw some of the evil of wealth as did Jesus however unlike Marx Jesus knew that the world would always worship wealth as it would always have wars. The Christian path has been for many a path of poverty for good reason.
@shooterdownunder
Ай бұрын
You clearly haven’t read the writings of Karl Marx if that’s your conclusion, I would suggest you pick up the book by pastor Richard wumbrand who lived under the Soviet union titled Marx and Satan where he took the time to examine all the writings of Karl Marx and you’d be shocked at how satanic they were.
@marshalldarcy7423
Ай бұрын
@@plainspokenpod For one who can see the problem with labels and sexual behavior as it applies to Christianity you do not seem to see the problem with labels and money as it applies to Christianity. Marx and Jesus both saw a problem with wealth. I understand that the more one uses the word ""evil"" the more wealth one gets but the wealth one gets is an indictment, as it was for Billy Graham who died a multi millionaire. Poverty as well as chastity are paths/aids in Christianity as any studies of the history of Christianity proves.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
@@plainspokenpod Well said.
@billsoloman4747
Ай бұрын
did that resolution pass???
@plainspokenpod
Ай бұрын
Yup
@karenlong5622
Ай бұрын
!language Genevieve Bergman! Wow. This is as bad as it gets. No wonder YHWH is soon arriving in the Person of His Son Yahshua haMashiach to clean House in Yerushalayim! His Law is Q'Dosh - Ezekiel 43:12. His Word stands, pure and strong. We must, also, with all SEVEN Spirits of the Armour of YHWH: 2 shoes of Shalom: 1 belt of Truth: 1 helmet of Salvation: 1 breastplate of Righteousness: 1 shield of Faith: 1 Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of YHWH. Thy Word Is Truth.
@jeffmills1480
27 күн бұрын
John Wesley must be spinning in his grave. Welcoming every to church and salvation is the right thing, but not following God's word and insisting that repenting sins is the only way to be saved. Letting people stay in the sin of homosexuality and other sins is not only a sin, but will put those in leadership positions in the same hell they a leading those poor sinners will end up. God is love, but he is just and His word is eternal.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
16 күн бұрын
@jeffmills1480 "John Wesley must be spinning in his grave." More likely he's APPLAUDING. He started all of this by ordaining women. "A woman should learn in silence with full submission. I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent. For Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed. " (1Tim 2:11-14) "God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the *_women should be silent in the churches_* , for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, they should ask their own husbands at home, for *_it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church meeting_* . Did the word of God originate from you, or did it come to you only? *_If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord’s command_* . " (1Cor 14:33-37)
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